| wgrant | tjaalton: Bug #267611 doesn't look good; they're using the latest versions of things... | 03:04 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267611 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "[intrepid] cannot see touchpad tab in mouse configuration" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267611 | 03:05 |
| tjaalton | wgrant: there are also bugs where lshal doesn't show the device but it can be manually configured in xorg.conf. maybe this is related | 05:51 |
| tjaalton | oh, the log shows that it's found | 05:52 |
| tjaalton | hum no, it's using evdev | 05:52 |
| tjaalton | that's because the fdi file doesn't know about SynPS/2 :) | 05:53 |
| tjaalton | so this bug is easy | 05:53 |
| wgrant | There's also a patch in upstream git that will probably fix some of the scrolling issues. | 05:57 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: What do you mean it doesn't know about SynPS/2? My device name is identical, and it works fine. | 06:00 |
| tjaalton | hum right, maybe lshal shows a different string | 06:02 |
| tjaalton | and maybe that user doesn't have hal running? | 06:02 |
| tjaalton | although that would cause more problems | 06:02 |
| wgrant | It finds the device through hal. | 06:02 |
| tjaalton | and since he got evdev it should be running.. | 06:02 |
| tjaalton | yep | 06:02 |
| wgrant | (II) config/hal: Adding input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad | 06:02 |
| wgrant | It uses the right driver. | 06:03 |
| wgrant | But it doesn't work. | 06:03 |
| wgrant | This is why I am confused. | 06:03 |
| tjaalton | oh right, it does | 06:03 |
| tjaalton | bah | 06:03 |
| tjaalton | breakfast first, then off to work :) -> | 06:04 |
| wgrant | Hmm. | 06:04 |
| wgrant | xorg-server 2:1.4.99.906-2ubuntu3 (buildd@crested.buildd) | 06:04 |
| wgrant | That's old. | 06:04 |
| wgrant | That would be the problem. | 06:04 |
| wgrant | I suppose. | 06:05 |
| tjaalton | it should support properties | 06:05 |
| wgrant | Hm, indeed. | 06:06 |
| wgrant | Anyway, eat. | 06:06 |
| tjaalton | wgrant: btw, let's keep all synaptics bugs in x-x-i-s, because I believe the source package will be renamed before too long | 08:43 |
| crevette | hello | 08:44 |
| bryce | heya | 08:46 |
| tjaalton | howdy | 08:48 |
| crevette | do you have any report on widget corruption on gtk with intel ? | 08:51 |
| crevette | I have that specifically on epiphany | 08:51 |
| crevette | http://www.monsterup.com/upload/1220860308.jpg | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | never seen that on my 965GM | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | don't use epiphany though | 08:52 |
| seb128 | I do use it and I've no such issue | 09:12 |
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| wgrant | tjaalton: Didn't we only rename it to match Debian a few months ago? | 10:32 |
| tjaalton | wgrant: yes, to enable easier merges, but since then the project has adopted the MIT license and is hosted on b.fd.o. I believe Mattia is ready to rename the source now :) | 11:20 |
| wgrant | Aha. | 11:22 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: I was pleased to see that it reawoke a couple of months back. | 11:22 |
| wgrant | It had been looking unpleasantly dead for too long. | 11:22 |
| tjaalton | yes, that's true.. at least it's maintained now | 11:26 |
| wgrant | It's unfortunate that float properties such as speed aren't yet able to be exposed through XI properties. | 11:32 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 11:35 |
| wgrant | Otherwise we could easily have a nice complete Synaptics GUI. | 11:35 |
| wgrant | That doesn't need SHMConfig... | 11:35 |
| tjaalton | the driver could use a different scale, like x1000 or so and use constants :) | 11:36 |
| wgrant | Integers, you mean? | 11:37 |
| tjaalton | uhm, yes :) | 11:37 |
| tjaalton | constant isn't that useful | 11:37 |
| wgrant | No, not really. | 11:37 |
| wgrant | But yes, that is one easy option that I'd thought of. But I presume upstream will have a better one. | 11:37 |
| wgrant | Do we know of any sane person who has hardware afflicted by the ultra-slowness bug? That's getting quite a few people annoyed on the forums. | 11:39 |
| wgrant | And Launchpad. | 11:39 |
| tjaalton | the bug has been updated | 11:39 |
| tjaalton | and upstream is aware of it | 11:40 |
| wgrant | Ah, good. | 11:40 |
| tjaalton | it can be quirked on the fdi file | 11:40 |
| tjaalton | but the real problem is that some code is missing from the new version that used to be there | 11:40 |
| wgrant | Useful, those FDI files. | 11:40 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 11:40 |
| tjaalton | so it's not a proper fix | 11:40 |
| tjaalton | wgrant: float support is coming, just not implemented yet | 12:09 |
| tjaalton | wgrant: something you'd like to try?-) | 12:14 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: I'd love to. But I've not looked into how the whole thing works in depth. | 12:19 |
| wgrant | I've remained blissfully ignorant of how things like X operate internally. | 12:20 |
| tjaalton | me too. I also lack the skill to fix anything | 12:21 |
| tjaalton | which would involve coding, and in C | 12:21 |
| wgrant | My C isn't bad, but X is formidable. | 12:23 |
| tjaalton | heh | 12:23 |
| jcristau | some parts are not too bad | 12:29 |
| wgrant | Encouraging. | 12:34 |
| tjaalton | bryce: looks like you deleted changelog.Debian.old from the xorg git on Aug 5th ;) | 12:59 |
| tjaalton | at least that merge deleted it | 13:00 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: Well, X doesn't seem to like 64-bit property values, but I've got it working rather well converting -synaptics' doubles to/from floats. | 14:45 |
| tjaalton | wgrant: whoa, excellent :) | 14:53 |
| wgrant | A few changes in xinput and -synaptics, and defining XA_FLOAT in Xatom.h (although there must be something like that already...). | 14:55 |
| tjaalton | you could send those to the list for a review | 14:58 |
| wgrant | Once they're less pathetic, perhaps. | 14:59 |
| tjaalton | heh, you could also ask peter directly (whot on irc) | 15:00 |
| jcristau | wgrant: sending floats over the wire? | 15:24 |
| jcristau | wgrant: might want to do fixed point instead | 15:24 |
| wgrant | jcristau: What is the benefit of that? | 15:26 |
| jcristau | probably less architecture dependent | 15:27 |
| wgrant | True. | 15:27 |
| wgrant | Grumble. But then one of course has the issue of differing ranges. And who knows how much precision is required... | 15:31 |
| jcristau | right. integer properties are easier | 15:31 |
| wgrant | Definitely. | 15:32 |
| wgrant | Unfortunately, some of the more useful -synaptics properties aren't integers. | 15:34 |
| * wgrant gives up and goes to bed. | 15:41 | |
| wgrant | Night all. | 15:41 |
| Ampelbein | hi! what is the right package for bugs in xkb? like bug #224649 ? | 18:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 224649 in control-center "limited to 4 alternative keyboard layouts - any reason?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/224649 | 18:59 |
| jcristau | Ampelbein: "yes, there's a reason" | 19:03 |
| jcristau | might be fixed at some point, but, since it's xkb... | 19:10 |
| * jcristau wtfs at bug 267867 | 19:31 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267867 in xterm "Catastrophic xterm behavior !" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267867 | 19:31 |
| bryce | ideas on bug 267682? | 19:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267682 in ubuntu "Hotkeys no longer working in Intrepid (evdev?)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267682 | 19:37 |
| bryce | ah hell, brb | 19:39 |
| tjaalton | jcristau: heh | 19:42 |
| bryce | tjaalton: you about? | 21:08 |
| tjaalton | bryce: yep | 21:40 |
| seb128 | hi there | 22:08 |
| seb128 | is current intrepid known to be broken on intel? | 22:09 |
| tjaalton | in what way? my laptop works | 22:09 |
| tjaalton | sure there are bugs too | 22:10 |
| seb128 | xglinfo segfault on startup but I just noticed that nvidia-glx-173 got installed and diverts libGL, let me remove it and restart my session | 22:11 |
| seb128 | that's an intel laptop why the heck does the binary nvidia get installed? | 22:11 |
| tjaalton | beats me :) | 22:12 |
| seb128 | nvidia-173-kernel-source | 22:14 |
| seb128 | Recommends: nvidia-glx-173 (>= 173.14.12) | 22:14 |
| seb128 | doesn't explain why | 22:15 |
| crevette | seb128: doesn't crash here | 22:16 |
| seb128 | crevette: do you have nvidia-glx-173 installed? | 22:17 |
| crevette | no | 22:17 |
| crevette | I have this message when running glxinfo -> Failed to initialize TTM buffer manager. Falling back to classic. | 22:24 |
| tjaalton | ignore it | 22:25 |
| seb128 | alright fixed now | 22:29 |
| seb128 | I still would like to now why those nvidia packages got installed | 22:29 |
| seb128 | that will teach me to use mvo's toys, I updated using update-manager ;-) | 22:30 |
| tjaalton | well, can't answer that one.. :) | 22:31 |
| crevette | tjaalton: framerate of glx* tools is synced on vertical freq of the screen? | 22:32 |
| tjaalton | crevette: something like that | 22:33 |
| crevette | tjaalton: sorry, I don't know much | 22:33 |
| tjaalton | crevette: no worries, me neither | 22:34 |
| jcristau | yes, sync to vblank is on by default on intel | 22:40 |
| jcristau | so gears fps addicts will be sad | 22:40 |
| * wgrant wtfs at the response to tjaalton's closing of bug #267867 | 22:57 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267867 in xterm "Catastrophic xterm behavior !" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267867 | 22:57 |
| bryce | hi tormod | 23:06 |
| tormod | hi bryce | 23:14 |
| tormod | you and brian have done some rocking -ati bug work lately :) | 23:14 |
| bryce | tormod: thanks, yeah I've been really focused on it | 23:20 |
| bryce | tormod: there were a number of bugs you had asked for updates 1 month ago, that have received no response, that could probably be closed as expired at this point | 23:21 |
| bryce | on the 14th we could do another review - that's the 1 month anniversary of bdmurray's request for updates, so I guess we can expire many of the bugs that still have no received word | 23:22 |
| bryce | tormod: also I don't know if you saw, but I did up a patch to allow us to quirk fixes for the AGPMode issue. I think I caught all the cases where people were reporting applicable symptoms and requested they test, but please keep your eyes open for more such cases | 23:23 |
| bryce | I suspect the AGPMode bug is going to be fairly pervasive | 23:23 |
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