[00:09] <favro> ouass: hi
[01:05] <anom01y> how do I undo this command: wget http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ubuntu/80DF6D58.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:09] <Odd-rationale> anom01y: well, one easy way would be to open Applications --> System --> Sofware Sources and go to the software keys tab... ( I think it is the third tab) and delete the key...
[01:23] <j00bacca> can you embed a terminal session into the background?
[01:26] <j00bacca> yes you can see http://wayofthegeek.org/2008/06/sooo-pretty/
[02:10] <nbl> hello
[02:10] <nbl> agian....
[02:10] <nbl> backupPCor Bacula? any imput on what is better?
[02:12] <nbl> any input*
[02:25] <xindo> so anyone in here have an apple slim keyboard on a pc running xubuntu hardy/
[02:25] <xindo> ?
[02:25] <xindo> there are a few bug reports about it, but can't get it worked out under xfce
[04:25] <Rakeer> Is there an "OpenGL" wrapper for Xu?
[04:25] <cody-somerville> :/
[04:26] <Rakeer> .i.
[04:27]  * cody-somerville is off to bed.
[04:28] <cody-somerville> \o)   \o/  (o/
[04:28] <Rakeer> allright then.
[04:29] <Rakeer> maybe I should have asked "is there a way to route opengl calls through CPU"
[04:29] <Rakeer> (in apps that are specifically opengl)
[05:07] <dudeman> hello
[08:53] <j00bacca> what is the name of the login screen for xubuntu/xfce?
[08:53] <j00bacca> and where to get themes
[09:08] <Nillerz> Hey, are there any MD5 checksums for the iso for xubuntu?
[09:08] <Nillerz> hello? Anyone?
[09:08] <R1cochet> i believe there is
[09:09] <R1cochet> but i just installed xubuntu an hr ago
[09:09] <Nillerz> can you link me? They aren't in the download repositories, unless I am stupid
[09:11] <Nillerz> also, how is xubuntu?
[09:11] <Nillerz> is it like, working?
[09:11] <R1cochet> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/getting-the-right-image/
[09:12] <R1cochet> yea it works
[09:12] <R1cochet> i removed kubuntu for xubuntu
[09:12] <R1cochet> kubuntu gave me some probs
[09:12] <Nillerz> I'm coming from Fluxbuntu
[09:12] <Nillerz> There's minamalism for you, I loved it
[09:13] <R1cochet> which desktop environment does it run on?
[09:14] <Nillerz> Fluxbox
[09:14] <Nillerz> Its the fastest linux I've tried but sure does have issues with not doing what I tell it to
[09:15] <R1cochet> lol
[09:15] <Nillerz> I want it to run at 2048x1536 and it never would... but that's X windows for you
[09:16] <Nillerz> there were also issues of it not putting applications on the list of applications after an install
[09:16] <R1cochet> did u update drivers?
[09:16] <Nillerz> nah, it never updates either
[09:16] <Nillerz> it was running 7.10
[09:17] <Nillerz> Also, found the MD5 checksums
[09:17] <Nillerz> I was going to install gentoo thinking it would be a fun all-day project then it said "This could take several days or weeks to install" and I was like "heh..."
[09:18] <R1cochet> lol
[09:18] <R1cochet> yea me too
[09:18] <R1cochet> but im not very familiar w/ nix
[09:18] <Nillerz> Kubuntu sounds fun though
[09:18] <R1cochet> but i dont think it will take that long
[09:18] <Nillerz> Me neither, just a few distro tests here and there,
[09:18] <Nillerz> which is why I wanted to install Gentoo, I wanted to get the guts and figure it all out bah mahself but jesus...
[09:19] <R1cochet> lol
[09:19] <R1cochet> yep
[09:19] <Nillerz> There is no graphical installer (worht mentioning) so you gotta manually place files via terminal
[09:20] <Nillerz> now, I'll be right back, I need to partition something over  >>> there
[09:20] <R1cochet> how do i add other partitions and drives to file manager?
[09:21] <Nillerz> dunno. I'mjust making room for the OS
[09:21] <Nillerz> I'm using Cute Partition Manager
[09:21] <R1cochet> lol not u
[09:21] <R1cochet> some1 else in here
[09:22] <R1cochet> the installer will do that for u
[09:22] <R1cochet> fdisk
[09:22] <Nillerz> really? Okay, cool.
[09:22] <R1cochet> yep
[09:22] <R1cochet> im on dual boot
[09:22] <Nillerz> But I already burnt the partition manager. :\
[09:22] <R1cochet> lol
[09:23] <Nillerz> I'm really getting this because I miss being an elitist Linux head
[09:23] <R1cochet> why didnt u use a virtual drive
[09:23] <Nillerz> "Oh, I  use **LINUX**, so I don't have to worry about hackers on steroids."
[09:23] <Nillerz> nah, full install plz
[09:24] <R1cochet> yea a virtual drive will let u mount the disk w/out burning then u can run from there
[09:24] <R1cochet> as long as its an image file
[09:27] <Nillerz> wait, you can install linux with a drive emulator?
[09:27] <Nillerz> waaaa?
[09:28] <Nillerz> but that requires an OS to run don't it?
[09:28] <Nillerz> links plz
[09:30] <R1cochet> ohh i thought u were talkin bout the app for partitioning
[09:30] <Nillerz> you can run a partition manager through windows?
[09:30] <Nillerz> you're blowing my mind here, continue
[09:30] <R1cochet> partition magic is for windows i believe
[09:31] <Nillerz> I'm going to see this, if it's true then GOSH DARN
[09:31] <Nillerz> hello
[09:31] <R1cochet> u can partition in windows yes
[09:31] <Nillerz> it costs monies.
[09:31] <R1cochet> lmao
[09:31] <R1cochet> not if u torrent
[09:31] <Nillerz> like, 70 bucks
[09:31] <R1cochet> or find one in irc
[09:32] <Nillerz> can it resize partitions? That'd be cool
[09:32] <R1cochet> packetnews
[09:32] <R1cochet> .com
[09:32] <R1cochet> yes i think so
[09:32] <R1cochet> but again the ubuntu installer will do that for u!
[09:32] <R1cochet> just run the installer and ull se
[09:32] <R1cochet> see*
[09:32] <Nillerz> It will resize a partition?
[09:32] <R1cochet> YES
[09:32] <Nillerz> wat?
[09:33] <R1cochet> run the installer
[09:33] <Nillerz> I'll do that
[09:33] <Nillerz> That's some fucked up shit, pardon my french
[09:33] <R1cochet> no fucking problem
[09:33] <Myrtti> !language
[09:34] <Nillerz> I saw that coming
[09:34] <R1cochet> so sorry
[09:34] <Myrtti> :-<
[09:34] <Nillerz> okay so I'm gonna make sure I don't break shit then I'll burn this shit
[09:34] <Nillerz> SORRY! My bad, that was an accident
[09:34] <R1cochet> ????
[09:34] <Nillerz> but anyway, I gotta check some things then I'm gonna run the live CD
[09:34] <R1cochet> what u gonna burn?
[09:34] <Nillerz> the iso
[09:35] <R1cochet> ok
[09:35] <Myrtti> ...
[09:35] <R1cochet> yea try it out
[09:35] <Nillerz> but first, checksums
[09:35] <R1cochet> myrtti?
[09:35] <Myrtti> I'm going to pretend I didn't see that this time, but this time only
[09:35] <R1cochet> is there a way to ad my other drives and partitions to thunar file manager?
[09:35] <Nillerz> thank you. I love you forever
[09:36] <R1cochet> add*
[09:38] <Nillerz> hashes match, yey
[09:39] <Nillerz> so yeah, xubuntu, it's like, easier topronounce than Fluxbuntu
[09:39] <R1cochet> lol
[09:39] <R1cochet> but not easier than kubuntu
[09:40] <Nillerz> Is it ZOO BOON TOO or is it ZOO BUN TOO
[09:40] <R1cochet> ubuntu with a zoo i think
[09:40] <R1cochet> been wondering myself
[09:40] <Nillerz> I'm concerned about the _bun_ part
[09:40] <Nillerz> long u or short u
[09:40] <R1cochet> i say boon
[09:41] <Nillerz> I've always said bun
[09:43] <Nillerz> is it possible to backwards construct a file out of an MD5 hash?
[09:43] <R1cochet> i dunno
[09:44] <Nillerz> That'd be interesting... probably take several days at the least though
[09:44] <R1cochet> only used md5 about 3x
[09:45] <Nillerz> are you in this chat from xubujntu? If so what browser are you using, or IRC client?
[09:46] <R1cochet> right now im on pidgin but it sux
[09:46] <R1cochet> im dling wine so i can run mirc
[09:46] <R1cochet> and utorrent
[09:46] <R1cochet> im gonna remove pidgin asap
[09:46] <Nillerz> Ever use Opera?
[09:47] <Nillerz> Has built-in bittorrent client and chat client for IRC
[09:47] <R1cochet> about 2 yrs ago but that was on winblows
[09:47] <Nillerz> The bittorrent client leaves something to be desired but the irc client is swell
[09:47] <Nillerz> also, its gotten insanely good since 2 years ago
[09:47] <R1cochet> i think mozilla has built in irc client
[09:47] <R1cochet> or at least addon
[09:47] <Nillerz> chatzilla yeah but it sucks
[09:47] <R1cochet> ok i dunno
[09:47] <R1cochet> i only like mirc
[09:47] <Nillerz> Firefox is horrible because it's making open source applications look bad
[09:48] <Nillerz> how are you running uTorrent without wine?
[09:48] <R1cochet> im not w/out wine
[09:48] <Nillerz> oh okay
[09:48] <R1cochet> thats y im dling wine
[09:48] <Nillerz> ???
[09:48] <R1cochet> downloading
[09:48] <R1cochet> *
[09:49] <R1cochet> my connection is slow atm so its gonna take some time to dl
[09:49] <R1cochet> 30min more :(
[09:49] <TheSheep> wans't there a linux version of mirc?
[09:49] <Nillerz> I'm using Roadrunner cable it is awesome
[09:49] <Nillerz> I don't think there is...
[09:50] <R1cochet> i used to have rr
[09:50] <R1cochet> i liked it
[09:50] <R1cochet> but where im at now i cant get
[09:50] <Nillerz> I remember because it's hard enough to find a decent windows IRC client, linux is usually much harder
[09:50] <Nillerz> Ah, that's horrible, I know how it is
[09:50] <Nillerz> We have it now since they built windmills around us and needed internet up there
[09:50] <Nillerz> We were on dialup for YEARS
[09:50] <R1cochet> im stuck with either verizon (no FIOS) or charter
[09:50] <TheSheep> Nillerz: irssi is very decent
[09:50] <R1cochet> ima go w/ charter 10m down
[09:51] <R1cochet> ive written some scripts for mirc so i dont want to lose them
[09:51] <Myrtti> xchat is quite good if you want a gui
[09:52] <Nillerz> gui's are for pussies.
[09:52] <Myrtti> as long as you remember not to mix it up with xchat-gnome which is bad
[09:53] <Nillerz> Fluxbox could run Gnome and KDE apps. It was neato
[09:53] <Myrtti> Nillerz: OH, really? Well then I have to change from irssi back to xchat, NEH?
[09:54] <Nillerz> NEH?
[09:54] <Nillerz> HEH?
[09:54] <TheSheep> Nillerz: you can run gnome and kde apps in any window manager
[09:57] <Nillerz> is it justme or does this window manager look EXACTLY like gnome?
[09:59] <TheSheep> it uses the same window toolkit and themes, so you might get this impression
[09:59] <Nillerz> :(
[09:59] <Nillerz> but you say it is faster, right?
[09:59] <R1cochet> is there a way to get file manager to see my other drives and partitions?
[09:59] <Nillerz> also, Gnome is just u g l y
[10:00] <TheSheep> Nillerz: question of taste, if you don't like it then use fluxbox
[10:00] <TheSheep> R1cochet: it should see them without doing anything special
[10:01] <R1cochet> well for some reason thunar doesnt show them
[10:01] <TheSheep> R1cochet: what kind of partitions are those?
[10:01] <R1cochet> ntfs
[10:01] <Nillerz> so the partition manager can re-size pa0rtitions right?
[10:01] <TheSheep> Nillerz: yes, with some luck
[10:01] <TheSheep> Nillerz: make a backup
[10:02] <TheSheep> !ntfs | R1cochet
[10:02] <Nillerz> I don't have a hard drive to back up to...
[10:03] <Nillerz> oh well.;
[10:03] <R1cochet> i had no problems with resize nillerz
[10:03] <R1cochet> but when i restarted winblows it checked hardware for changes cuz of resize but all was fine
[10:05] <Nillerz> okay, I'll only give it about 5 gigs or so.
[10:05] <TheSheep> !worksforme
[10:05] <TheSheep> :)
[10:06] <TheSheep> then again, it has gotten stablier in the recent versions
[10:08] <Myrtti> ho-hum
[12:28] <jarnos> Do you have to use Alternate install CD to be able to install grub to boot sector of a partition?
[12:51] <returnCode> hallo fols
[12:51] <returnCode> hallo folks
[12:51] <returnCode>  I need to install a vnc server on my laptop running xubuntu
[12:52] <returnCode> can anyone suggest one?
[12:52] <returnCode> where I can find docs et similar?
[12:52] <favro> I use vnc4server
[12:52] <favro> !vnc
[12:53] <returnCode> running on composite desktop
[12:53] <returnCode> is 's run on composite desktop?
[12:54] <favro> it'll run if you have compositing
[12:55] <returnCode> I use vino server, but seems not work when I try to connect by a win pc
[12:56] <returnCode>  I use vino server, but seems not work when I try to connect from a win pc, pardon
[12:56] <ablomen> returnCode, are you trying to log in from windows with a vnc client or remote desktop?
[12:57] <returnCode> My xubuntu laptop running vino-server
[12:58] <returnCode> I try to connect using thight-vnc client on win pc
[12:59] <returnCode> @ablomen: some hints
[13:08] <ablomen> nah sorry no idea why it wont work
[13:12] <returnCode> thanks anyway
[13:13] <returnCode> thanks anyway
[14:57] <cody> come si cambia la risoluzione della schermata di login in xubuntu hardy????
[14:57] <cody> how to change login screen resolution in xubuntu hardy????'
[14:59] <cody> display,xml contains:
[14:59] <cody> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
[14:59] <cody> <!DOCTYPE mcs-option SYSTEM "mcs-option.dtd">

[14:59] <cody> 	<option name="XDisplay/bgamma" type="int" value="100"/>
[14:59] <cody> 	<option name="XDisplay/ggamma" type="int" value="100"/>
[14:59] <cody> 	<option name="XDisplay/rate" type="int" value="60"/>
[14:59] <cody> 	<option name="XDisplay/rgamma" type="int" value="100"/>
[14:59] <cody> 	<option name="XDisplay/size" type="int" value="5"/>
[14:59] <cody> 	<option name="XDisplay/syncGamma" type="int" value="1"/>

[15:01] <TheSheep> !pastebin | cody
[15:03] <cody> http://paste.ubuntu.com/44546/
[15:03] <cody> xorg.conf
[15:59] <cody> how to change login screen resolution in xubuntu hardy????'
[16:14] <jarnos> cody: do you have an edited xorg.conf?
[16:14] <cody> http://paste.ubuntu.com/44546/
[16:14] <cody> here
[16:15] <cody> what can i modify in display.xml?
[16:16] <jarnos> cody: whrere is that?
[16:16] <cody> /home/enrico/.config/xfce4/mcs_settings/
[16:19] <jarnos> cody: I don't have such file in respective location.
[16:19] <cody> in xubuntu ?
[16:19] <cody> 8.04
[16:20] <jarnos> cody: yes
[16:21] <cody> how to change login screen resolution in xubuntu hardy????'
[16:23] <thread_au> hi
[16:23] <thread_au> how can I start a concurrent session from xfce?
[16:24] <thread_au> startx -- :1 opens a new session, but doesn't let me see the login window
[16:24] <thread_au> just auto logs me in as whatever user ran the startx command
[16:25] <jarnos> TheSheep: Applications > Quit > Switch user
[16:25] <thread_au> there is no "switch" user in my quit box
[16:26] <thread_au> just log out, restart, shut down
[16:30] <cody> shit
[16:30] <cody> why so hard to change resolution in login screen?
[17:45] <steven__> hello all
[17:47] <Odd-rationale> !hi | steven__
[17:48] <steven__> i've been on once or twice before... LOL
[18:30] <definitely> Hello, how to run thunrar as root
[18:30] <definitely>  ?
[18:36] <Odd-rationale> definitely: gksudo thunar
[18:36] <Odd-rationale> But please BE CAREFUL!
[18:37] <definitely> ok second quesstion, what about editing startup list ?
[18:38] <Odd-rationale> startup list?
[18:38] <definitely> yeah StartUp programs
[18:38] <Odd-rationale> definitely: Applications --> Settings --> Autostarted Applications ?
[18:39] <definitely> aaaa ok
[18:39] <definitely> my mistake
[18:39] <definitely> didint saw it
[19:01] <definitely> How to edit Applications menu lisat
[19:01] <definitely> list''
[19:03] <steven__> hmm
[19:04] <definitely> umm
[19:12] <definitely> is it possible ?
[19:34] <steven__> any ideas?
[19:47] <bringatowel> hey is there some where to download more panel items?
[21:50] <bytor4232> Is there a way to set up network manager before I get to a wireless site?
[21:55] <favro> !wireless
[22:21] <favro> http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dategr1.jpg - how do I fix a display that looks like that? hehe
[22:24] <bytor4232> favro: I have wireless networking set up already on the laptop.  What I'm trying to do is pre-configure the Network Manager so I don't have to configure it on site.
[22:28] <favro> bytor4232: I don't use wireless myself but isn't there a profile you can set for diff connections?
[22:29] <bytor4232> No, the network manager finds the access point, then asks you for the key.
[23:21] <^paradox^> hello everyone
[23:22] <Odd-rationale> hi, ^paradox^
[23:22] <^paradox^> ive been using ubuntu linux for about six months now. im still very new to linux
[23:23] <Odd-rationale> welcome
[23:23] <^paradox^> i have ubuntu with installed on my machine. i recently installed xubuntu-desktop and have been running into problems with it
[23:23] <^paradox^> thanks
[23:25] <^paradox^> the problems seem to be totem related
[23:25] <Odd-rationale> k like what?
[23:26] <^paradox^> when i play a song of any format i get no sound. when i play a video i get only video, no sound. when i insert a cd totem comes up to open it and i get error location not found
[23:26] <^paradox^> these things dont happen in ubuntu with gnome
[23:27] <^paradox^> whenever i just left click in the file browser or a folder totem is what opens up the media by default
[23:28] <^paradox^> i have vlc media player and mplayer which i access with a right click and they play videos and songs just fine
[23:28] <^paradox^> under xubuntu
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> that sounds like a strange problem... :|
[23:30] <^paradox^> ive been told that xubuntu can run any app that gnome can, but that doesnt seem true at this point
[23:30] <Odd-rationale> well it should... that's the point...
[23:31] <^paradox^> but like i said im a nix noob so im afraid i dont really understand exactly whats going on
[23:31] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: is it 8.04?
[23:32] <^paradox^> i have 8.04 of ubuntu. i installed xubuntu thru synaptic and reloaded synaptic first. i assume i got the latest version of xubuntu desktop
[23:32] <^paradox^> xubuntu-desktop
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> yes you would have
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> my guess is that it is pulseaudio/gstreamer related...
[23:34] <^paradox^> ive been told that
[23:34] <Odd-rationale> hold on. i'll be right back and see what i can do...
[23:34] <^paradox^> okie dokie
[23:37] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: ok. well let's try to replace totem-gstreamer with totem-xine. Same interface, but just different backends. open synaptics and search for totem. mark totem-gstreamer for removal and mark totem-xine for install. then select apply.
[23:38] <^paradox^> ok
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> xine handles dvd better than gstreamer anyways... esp. encrypted ones with the libdvdcss2 package from medibuntu repo
[23:39] <nubuntu> anyone got a minute to help me troubleshoot this sound problem (no sound) on a new hardy install?  heres a paste of terminal output: http://pastebin.com/m7a44351a
[23:41] <^paradox^> Odd-rationale: did that
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: have sound in totem now?
[23:42] <^paradox^> let me test
[23:43] <^paradox^> with a video yes. let me test a song too
[23:44] <^paradox^> alright have sound with songs too
[23:44] <Odd-rationale> cool. i guess it is gstreamer related...
[23:44] <Odd-rationale> how about rhythmbox. do you have sound in that?
[23:44] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: ?
[23:45] <^paradox^> ill check
[23:47] <^paradox^> with rythmbox it keeps flashing back and forth between the two songs i have in that folder
[23:48] <^paradox^> when right click to play with vlc vlc works
[23:49] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: must be a problem with gstreamer and maybe with it's pulseaudio integration...
[23:50] <^paradox^> if were to reinstall gstreamer would it remove xine?
[23:51] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: well, i don't think you can have totem-gstreamer and totem-xine installed at the same time...
[23:51] <Odd-rationale> but you can have the gstreamer engine...
[23:51] <^paradox^> how does that work?
[23:53] <^paradox^> and what name would i be looking for in synaptic?
[23:54] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: for what?
[23:54] <^paradox^> this gstreamer engine
[23:54] <Odd-rationale> you have it installed...
[23:54] <^paradox^> oh lol ok
[23:55] <^paradox^> any idea whats up with the CDs, why i get this error location not found?
[23:57] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: is it when you select cd from the totem menu?
[23:58] <^paradox^> its when i insert a cd. after its in the drive totem comes up and then i get error loaction not found
[23:58] <^paradox^> location
[23:59] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: hmm. try using sound juicer to autoplay cd instead...