[00:00] <martalli> i think that's a bug, but if you are trying to open wine games, I know the wine devs hate compiz....
[00:00] <martalli> You can always just turn comiz off and turn it back on later
[00:00] <martalli> Once you have the graphics card set right, you don't have to carry that water again
[00:01] <Sixzero> just tryin to play nexuiz
[00:01] <Sixzero> how do i turn comiz off?
[00:01] <martalli> which distro are you using?
[00:01] <Sixzero> kubuntu 8.04
[00:02] <martalli> Try going to syste-settings - > Look & Feel -> Desktop and see if there ius a section or tab for desktop effects
[00:03] <martalli> Honestly I am looking at my 4.1.1 system settings right now, but I am guessing it is similar.  Another place to look *might* be system settings -> Look & Feel -> Appearance
[00:04] <Sixzero> it has appearance, but nothing about compiz or window behavior.
[00:05] <martalli> try going to the command line, type "desktop" and then hit the tab key ("desktop<tab>")
[00:05] <martalli> What do you get?
[00:05] <Sixzero> desktop-effects-kde4...
[00:05] <Sixzero> ?
[00:07] <martalli> I think that's what you need...but I am loath to suggest it.  Just a second
[00:08] <martalli> I think that is actually the command...see this release regarding the alpha version of hardy: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha4/Kubuntu
[00:10] <martalli> However, i think the desktop effects on kde 3.5 in 8.04 are a mixed bag
[00:10] <Sixzero> Your suggestion worked.  It allowed me to turn off the effects, at least, without having to uninstall.
[00:10] <martalli> great
[00:10] <martalli> I have to get going.  Have a good evening and good luck with kubuntu!
[00:10] <Sixzero> You too.  Thank ya kindly.
[00:24] <ian__> I need a little help with my Wi-Fi Card.
[00:25] <CoJaBo_> Is there a way to auto-hide the taskbar in Kubuntu KDE4?
[00:26] <ian__> @CoJaBo: I don't think so...
[00:26] <jagrpe> hola
[00:26] <jagrpe> Hello
[00:27] <ian__> @CoJaBo: You can remove it, then add it's contents to your desktop as plain widgets.
[00:27] <CoJaBo_> Thats strange :/
[00:28] <ian__> @CoJaBo: Then press Ctrl+F12 to access the Dashboard, thus displaying them.
[00:29] <ian__> @CoJaBo: KDE 4 doesn't have all of the features of KDE 3 yet. I'm sure that Hiding the panel will be implemented in a future release.
[00:31] <CoJaBo_> Ok, I'm trying to figure out which version to install, are there any other things not yet implemented?
[00:32] <ian__> A Few things, but most if it's fine. If you're really worried about it, go with 3.5.9. Otherwise, go ahead with 4.1.1
[00:33] <ian__> Or, if you're like me, install both :)
[00:33] <CoJaBo_> I am testing the KDE4 version, it seems pretty buggy...
[00:33] <ian__> Which version are you testing?
[00:33] <mrxmike> im trying to update /reinstall/install mysql-server-5.0 but im getting ..
[00:34] <mrxmike> DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[00:35] <ian__> @Mrmike: Are you currently running another apt process? (eg. Aptitude, Adept)
[00:35] <WaSTe[bRe]> there is two packages in adept manager for kde4> kde4 package, and kubuntu-kde-desktop < wich one to choose???
[00:35] <mrxmike> ian__: nopes, nothing
[00:35] <mrxmike> even from shell i get this error
[00:35] <mrxmike> its a but it seems > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/189005
[00:36] <ian__> @Wasre[bre]: Go with "kubuntu-kde4-desktop". It's specifically tailored to kubuntu. KDE4 is just generic.
[00:37] <WaSTe[bRe]> ian__ thanks
[00:37] <CoJaBo_> I am running the Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 Remix live cd.
[00:37] <WaSTe[bRe]> ian__ do u use kde4?
[00:37] <ian__> @Wasre[bre]: Yeah.
[00:37] <mrxmike> LOL, that launchpad file says 'FIX released'
[00:38] <mrxmike> but where is it then?
[00:38] <WaSTe[bRe]> what is your opinion of kde4?
[00:38] <mrxmike> its cool, but not done yet
[00:38] <ian__> @CoJaBo: I think that's KDE 4.0. Try 4.1.1 on an installed system.
[00:38] <WaSTe[bRe]> should i instll kde4, or stay on 3.5.9?
[00:39] <ian__> @Wasre[bre]: Install KDE 4 alongside your KDE 3. Unless you're hard on disk space.
[00:39] <ian__> @Wasre[bre]: In which case stay with KDE 3 for now.
[00:42] <master_> I wish I was an oscar myer weener...
[00:42] <ian__> whoa...
[00:42] <master_> (sorry.. just typing out loud while I wait for updates to download_
[00:43] <CoJaBo_> Is it easy to upgrade Kubuntu to KDE 4.1.1? Or is there another distro that is better?
[00:43] <CoJaBo_> lol
[00:44] <ian__> @CoJaBo: Not from the live CD. From the installed system, add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main to /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:45] <ian__> then, type "sudo apt-get -y install kubunti-kde4-desktop" and answer any questions that come up.
[00:46] <ian__> Only, that's kubuntu with a u, not an i
[00:47] <ian__> make sure to add everything from the deb to the main to your sources.list file.
[00:47] <EagleSn> if u want ot use KDE4 i recommend you tu use KDE 4.1.1 from kubuntu ppa
[00:50] <ian__> @master: Wait, how do you type out loud?
[00:51] <ian__> By the way, I need a little help with my Wi-Fi Card.
[00:53] <ian__> It doesn't want to work after logiing out then in.
[00:53] <ian__> But, if I go to Network settings I can get it to work if I cylce between Auto, and Manual.
[00:57] <CoJaBo_> If I upgrade to KDE 4.1.1, which version is it best to start from, the Kubuntu with KDE 4.0, or the regular one?
[00:57] <Sixzero> depends on your tastes.  I just installed 4.1.1 from adept and i'm already starting to like it.
[00:58] <Sixzero> It's certainly cool looking, the new one is.
[00:59] <CoJaBo_> I think I'll try 4.1.1, but what version of Kubuntu should I start from, would there be a difference?
[01:00] <dr_Willis> use the latest you can.. i would suggest
[01:00] <dr_Willis> You may want to install the normal kubuntu, and just install kde 4.1.1 that way theres no extra older kde4 stuff laying about.  Just kde 3 stuff.
[01:01] <Sixzero> CoJaBo_: are you asking which session you should log into?
[01:02] <Sixzero> CoJaBo_: as in 3.5 or 4.1?
[01:03] <CoJaBo_> Sixzero: What version of the Kubuntu CD, the original or KDE4 Remix?
[01:04] <mefisto__> I'm looking for an rss editor, to manually create and edit rss .xml files. any suggestions? anything in ubuntu repos?
[01:06] <Sixzero> CoJaBo_: I went with the original and then installed KDE4 through adept, but if you want a completely clean KDE4 install without the old stuff to drag along, then go for the remix disc.  But be warned that some of us haven't had a whole lot of luck with the cd, thats why i went ahead and updated through adept.  Now I can pick and choose which one I log into.
[01:08] <zac_> hey guys
[01:08] <zac_> where does kubuntu keep the configs for the login screen and kde. I would like to bypass the login and go right into another wm
[01:09] <ccoffey> Amarok 1: I've svn up'd it, but make -f Makefile.cvs throws "libamarok_gst10engine_plugin_la_LDFLAGS: variable `LIB_GST10' is used but `LIB_GST10' is undefined" at me. Any ideas?
[01:09] <ccoffey> wrong window. sorry
[01:09] <marcobxbro1> How do you change the splash and login screen in kubuntu
[01:11] <zac_> or atleast have X load a different wm than kde?
[01:11] <dr_Willis> zac_,  thats doable. - the kdm config can autologin to a specifi user.
[01:11] <dr_Willis> i think the kdm config front end can set that also. (kde3 at least)
[01:12] <geek> zac_: select a different WM from KDM. it will ask you if it want it to be default. say yes. IIRC
[01:12] <zac_> wow
[01:12] <WaSTe[bRe]> i installed kde4, how to use it?
[01:13] <dr_Willis> the login screen has a sessions menu item.. select kde4
[01:13] <zac_> and marcobxbro1 asked about the splash files, i think i might be interested in that ansewr
[01:14] <dr_Willis> Theres some factoid on splash - but i always disablew splash anyway. :)
[01:14] <dr_Willis> !usplash
[01:15] <ubuntu_> Hi all, I am attempting to install Kubuntu 8.04 AMD64 on my new PC, but when I get to the partitioning step, there are no devices listed
[01:15] <ubuntu_> I have a SATA HDD that already has an NTFS partition with Windows XP x64 Ed. installed
[01:16] <dr_Willis> 'sudo fdisk -l' from a terminal should show  the hard drives. Unless they are on some unsupported sata controller.
[01:16] <dr_Willis> if fdisk -l, isent even showing any hard drives.. well.. theres some issues going on.
[01:16] <ubuntu_> I get nothing
[01:17] <dr_Willis> with sudo?
[01:17] <ubuntu_> correct
[01:18] <dr_Willis> thats weird.
[01:18] <ubuntu_> I have an XFX Motherboard with integrated SATA Controller
[01:19] <dr_Willis> bbrb
[01:21] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: is there a bios update for the motherboard? or are there bios settings related to sata? mine can use sata as an ide drive, so it's easy to install any os
[01:21] <dr_Willis> you may want to do some googling on that exact mb and linux support. You may also want to test out the  next testin g release of ubuntu.
[01:21] <dr_Willis> It could be so new its not got support in the current release
[01:22] <ubuntu_> ok, i'll try downloading the latest Alpha
[01:22] <ubuntu_> thanks a lot
[01:22] <WaSTe[bRe]> is e17 good for kubuntu?
[01:22] <alfonso> alguien habla español
[01:23] <fignew> !es
[01:23] <Dr_willis_> WaSTe[bRe],  good for what?
[01:23] <Dr_willis_> E17 is its own desktop enviroment. with its own quirks/gimmics. :)
[01:24] <alfonso> hola
[01:24] <Sixzero> I'm having trouble getting the sound to work in some of my apps on kde4 even though movies and songs play fine on the desktop.  anybody got a clue what's up?
[01:24] <Sixzero> hola
[01:25] <WaSTe[bRe]> my friend says e17 is good, and it look pritty good
[01:25] <WaSTe[bRe]> should i use it?
[01:25] <alfonso> pense que me havia equivocado otravez y que aqui no hablan español
[01:25] <Dr_willis_> This is 'linux'  make up your own mind and use what you want.
[01:25] <Dr_willis_> Install it, try it..   and see.
[01:26] <Dr_willis_> I dont care for E17 - havent cared much for any of the earlier E's either.
[01:26] <WaSTe[bRe]> i know
[01:26] <WaSTe[bRe]> i just want to ask expirienc linux user of their opinion
[01:28] <Dr_willis_> I dont see much point in the E# stuff. its alwyas been sort of a 'out there' project that gets attention for a while. then dies down.. then pops back up...
[01:28] <Sixzero> The most popular distro for home users is more often than not Ubuntu.  It comes with Gnome.  You can get Kubuntu instead if you prefer KDE, or even Xubuntu if you want a lightweight desktop manager like Xfce
[01:30] <home_> I was wondering how to make the clock in a 12 hour rotation?
[01:31] <home_> rather than 24
[01:32] <tekstacy> !apt-fix
[01:36] <zac_> ok, I understand kdm, but i dont see where to explicitly set a different wm than KDE. Adding an .xinitrc into $HOME doesn't help
[01:37] <Hamra> somebody tell me that i received a fake email and ubunu 9.04 is not going to be called _jaunty_ :O
[01:40] <Daniel-Minifig> I am trying to install some games and all I get is mf errors about it cannot download, or commit will break packages.  I review changes and all looks fine.  Can anyone help?
[01:41] <Daniel-Minifig> I am ready to kill.  Linux is more bull than anything else.
[01:42] <mefisto__> killing is probably against the channel rules
[01:42] <Daniel-Minifig> lol
[01:43] <Daniel-Minifig> You mean I cannot kill Kubuntu for all its uselessness?  lol
[01:43] <mefisto__> are you trying to install from repos?
[01:44] <Daniel-Minifig> Add/Remove Programs - Games menu.
[01:44] <Daniel-Minifig> Kubuntu Linux 8.04.1
[01:44] <mighty-d> Hi
[01:45] <mighty-d> im trying to log into kde using kdm and xdmcp, auth is done via ldap, if i go to the local computer it works fine, but when i try to log in from the remote client using an ldap user i get
[01:45] <mighty-d>  xrdb: cant open display 'ws001:5'
[01:46] <mighty-d> on .xsession-error
[01:47] <Dragnslcr> Daniel-Minifig- what are you trying to install?
[01:48] <Daniel-Minifig> I wanted to see what the game Funguloids is.  I am also selecting a few other games and I keep getting the same error.  I have to go through and select one at a time and it is totally annoying.
[01:48] <Daniel-Minifig> Takes forever to install stuff.
[01:49] <Daniel-Minifig> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[01:50] <Daniel-Minifig> Does that in Kubuntu and Linux Mint KDE CE.
[01:50] <Daniel-Minifig> Frozen Bubbles also gives that error in Kubuntu.
[01:50] <Dr_willis_> I normally  use Synaptic - it seems quicker then  some of the other package manager front ends Like adept
[01:51] <Daniel-Minifig> Can you go through a list of all the games and install them?
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> You can also use the apt:// thing in konqueror to browse/search
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> synaptic has a front end like adept Daniel-Minifig  correct...
[01:51] <Dragnslcr> That's definitely weird. I don't see anything in the dependencies that screams out "will break other packages"
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> that add/remove programs thing - is a minimal front end.
[01:52] <Daniel-Minifig> I will swap over and see if I can install Synaptic.
[01:52] <Daniel-Minifig> It is VERY slow and annoying.
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> swap over>
[01:52] <Daniel-Minifig> I am running two computers on a KVM
[01:53] <Dr_willis_> heh. You may want to check out vnc, :) ya could have a desktop in a window then of the 2nd pc.
[01:53] <Daniel-Minifig> Interesting.
[01:58] <Daniel-Minifig> I did a search for VNC and there were alot of results.
[01:58] <Daniel-Minifig> Synaptic is installed.
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> Theres a varity of vnc servers out. and a vareity of ways it can be used...
[02:00] <Dr_willis_> I tend to use 'vnc4server'
[02:00] <Daniel-Minifig> Okay.
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> never quite figured out how to use vnc
[02:01] <Dr_willis_> I ssh in, run 'vncserver' , connect via any vncclient
[02:01] <Dr_willis_> this is on a local lan. :)  doing it over the internet is a little more complex
[02:01] <sancho21_> How to free  my Kubuntu memory? It seems that my 2G mem and 1G swap are full
[02:01] <ccoffey> only caches, everything is fine
[02:01] <Dr_willis_> sancho21_,  You may be missreading the information.
[02:02] <sancho21_> I use top
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> try the 'free' command
[02:02] <writher> http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html
[02:02] <writher> Sorry
[02:02]  * geek thinks it in part a fault of VNC. its slow. i'd suggest (its a little more work) using freenx instead
[02:02] <writher> That explains Linux memory usage
[02:02] <Aardvarks> [Mass Message] Everythings back online. have at it.
[02:03] <sancho21_> I'm not running big application actually
[02:03] <Dr_willis_> Linux uses what it can grab for cache. Its odd that you are using that much swap.
[02:04] <Dr_willis_> I rarely ever touch swap on normal ussage, on my 2gb machines.
[02:05] <Daniel-Minifig> funguloids:
[02:05] <Daniel-Minifig>  Depends: ogre-plugins-cgprogrammanager  but it is not installable
[02:05] <sancho21_> Is it true that memory usage it high although the big application has already been shut down? I mean, it is not automatically cleaned up?
[02:06] <Dr_willis_> could be the app is still in cache, and will be freed up when more mem. is needed
[02:06] <Daniel-Minifig> This michine is old.  My other machine is better.
[02:06] <ccoffey> sancho21_:
[02:06] <ccoffey> sancho21_: you can't compare it to other OS's, it'll be freed when it needs to be
[02:07] <Daniel-Minifig> Has anyone checked out Wikipedia Compare of Linux and Windows.  I think they did a great job of it.,
[02:08] <zac_> arrrrgh I must have the worst hardware ever
[02:08] <zac_> 10 different approaches in userspace for disabling ALPS trackpad tapping and not one of them seems to work
[02:12] <edju> Trying to run screenlets under KDE, but it errors out.  I run screenlets.py and it can't recognize the file format of /usr/share/icons/screenlets.svg, a soft link to an existing file.  Any hints how to get this thing going?
[02:12] <Dr_willis_> :) when shopping for laptops.. one of the 'must have features' is an Off button for the touchpad.
[02:13] <Dr_willis_> edju,  perhaps tghat svg link is invalid.. or the file is bad.. copy some other svg to it.,
[02:14] <edju> Dr_willis_, What svg? Any svg?
[02:14] <Dr_willis_> pick one...
[02:14] <Dr_willis_> its just an iconfile
[02:15] <Dr_willis_> file  /usr/share/icons/screenlets.svg
[02:15] <Dr_willis_> will tell ya what format the file is now.. It maybe its bad, or wrong, or  somthing weird like that.
[02:16] <Daniel-Minifig> I found ogre-plugins-cgprogrammanager
[02:16] <Daniel-Minifig> How do I install a deb file?
[02:16] <Dr_willis_> best to use the package manager to 'search and install' programs.
[02:17] <Dr_willis_> you erally should avoide downloading single .debs and installing them.. BUT... if you must... you should be able to double click on it and install it..
[02:17] <Dr_willis_> or 'sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb'
[02:18] <edju> Dr_willis_, file says that it's XML.
[02:18] <Daniel-Minifig> Well, I want to check out funguloids and I download the file it said it cannot install.
[02:18] <Dr_willis_> edju,  hmm.. try file on some other svg files then perhaps.
[02:18] <Dr_willis_> !info funguloids
[02:18] <Dr_willis_> sudo apt-get install funguloids
[02:19] <Dr_willis_> should install it.. or give some info as to why it wont install.
[02:20] <mefisto__> svg is xml, that's what you should get with the "file" command. do "cat screenlets.svg" to see. maybe you can find what's wrong and fix it?
[02:21] <Dr_willis_> mefisto__,  ok. :) i learned somthing today then i guess..
[02:21] <Dr_willis_> xml is taking over the world!
[02:21] <Dr_willis_> :)
[02:22] <Daniel-Minifig> What does this mean: W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1
[02:22] <Daniel-Minifig> I addede a source to the ogre thing,
[02:23] <Daniel-Minifig> This is where I got it: http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/ogre-plugins-cgprogrammanager/download
[02:24] <Dragnslcr> !info ogre-plugins-cgprogrammanager
[02:25] <Daniel-Minifig> That ogre is demanded for Funguloids game.  lol
[02:25] <Dragnslcr> Hm, might want to report that to the repository maintainers
[02:27] <Daniel-Minifig> Funguloids: space-flying-mushroom-picking-simulator game
[02:27] <Daniel-Minifig> Sounds funny.
[02:29] <Daniel-Minifig> Installing the deb package.
[02:32] <mefisto__> Daniel-Minifig: so it wouldn't install without first installing ogre-plugins-cgprogrammanager ?
[02:32] <Daniel-Minifig> It needs ogre
[02:32] <Daniel-Minifig> One of the dependisies
[02:32] <gabriel> what is ogre?
[02:33] <Daniel-Minifig> ogre-plugins-cgprogrammanager
[02:33] <gabriel> The big green animal?
[02:33] <gabriel> ok
[02:33] <Daniel-Minifig> Shrek.  lol
[02:33] <gabriel> Ok
[02:33] <gabriel> do you speak french?
[02:34] <Daniel-Minifig> No.
[02:34] <mefisto__> there's ogre-tools and ogre-doc in ubuntu repos. hmm
[02:34] <gabriel> sorry. I write french well than english
[02:36] <masetti> helo
[02:36] <gabriel> hello How can I do to Installing adobe Flash player on my Kubuntu?
[02:36] <masetti> lot my taskbar!!!
[02:36] <Dragnslcr> !flash
[02:36] <masetti> lost
[02:37] <Daniel-Minifig> press controll-esc and search kicker.  Kill it and then run kicker masetti
[02:37] <mefisto__> masetti: alt-f2, kicker
[02:37] <compilerwriter> !plasma-addons
[02:37] <mefisto__> masetti: assuming you are using kde3
[02:37] <masetti> may somebody help me find out my taskbar ( kubuntu+fusion)
[02:38] <masetti> thanks!
[02:38] <gabriel> ok thanks I'm looking  for that
[02:40] <Daniel-Minifig>  masetti: alt-f2, kicker
[02:41] <Daniel-Minifig> I will be back later.
[02:41] <masetti> Thanks Daniel, I am trying to find a way to launch the kicker, once no menu availlable!
[02:43] <mefisto__> masetti: alt-f2. or right-click the desktop, run command...
[02:43] <masetti> you lovely!
[02:44] <masetti> ita Came Back!
[02:49] <mafer> hola
[02:50] <mafer> disculpa una pregunta  soy novata y no se porq no me deja kubuntu ingresar en modo administrador
[02:50] <mafer> asi ponga mi clave sigo sin ingresar y modificarlo
[02:50] <mafer> ayuda please
[02:51] <hdevalence> is there a way to install KDE-edu *without* marble?
[02:54] <masetti> Mafer, do que sei Ubuntu nao vem com senha de administrador, basta sudo ___
[02:54] <masetti> ou crie um adm
[02:58] <mafer_> hoa
[02:58] <mafer_> hola ayuda please
[02:59] <dwidmann> !es
[03:02] <mefisto__> I'm looking for an rss editor, to manually create and edit rss .xml files. any suggestions? anything in ubuntu repos?
[03:20] <gabriel> Hello I want to install Dapper Drake on my kubuntu, in the last step, the system ask me the installation path of the Mozilla and find out it and put /urs/lib/firefox. It doesn't want this path. How can I do?
[03:21] <Daniel-Minifig> Back.
[03:21] <gabriel> how?
[03:21] <Daniel-Minifig> I am having Linux install too many games.  lol
[03:21] <Daniel-Minifig> 138 files to download.
[03:21] <gabriel> lol
[03:21] <Daniel-Minifig> I am mentaL.
[03:21] <gabriel> I see
[03:21] <gabriel> lol
[03:22] <lufthanza> i need a bit of help configuring cups if anyone feels up to it
[03:22] <Daniel-Minifig> I installed Linux to see what all the fuss is about.  Why not go mental and get the full service?  lol
[03:23] <lufthanza> anyone?
[03:23] <Daniel-Minifig> I don't know what cups is.
[03:23] <Daniel-Minifig> I am new to this Linux stuff.
[03:23] <lufthanza> cups= common unix print system
[03:23] <geek> gabriel: erm... dapper is a distro.. and an old one...
[03:23] <Daniel-Minifig> Thank you.  I don't have any printers.
[03:24] <geek> wouldn't you be better off with an newer one?
[03:25] <masetti> Hi Daniel, do you know how to start the cube in compiz fusion?
[03:26] <masetti> I say, in 3d
[03:26] <Daniel-Minifig> You need to go into settings and tell it to enable the cube.
[03:26] <masetti> i did it
[03:27] <Daniel-Minifig> I have it on my other PC.  Not sure this one can do the cube.
[03:27] <masetti> no special keys?
[03:27] <Daniel-Minifig> ctrl+alt+right arrow or left arrow
[03:27] <Daniel-Minifig> hold ctrl+alt and press Left or right arrow key.
[03:27] <Daniel-Minifig> That will move the cube
[03:27] <masetti> tried out, nothing!
[03:27] <lufthanza> nevermind, fixed my cups problem myself
[03:28] <Daniel-Minifig> Need to check settings.  I am not good at the special effects.
[03:28] <masetti> ok!
[03:28] <masetti> diego, vc sabe?
[03:28] <Daniel-Minifig> I will try it on this PC when I am done installing the games.
[03:29] <masetti> g'luck!
[03:29] <diego> hi,no
[03:29] <Daniel-Minifig> I am running nvidia riva tnt 16MB here.
[03:29] <Daniel-Minifig> Notsure it will work.
[03:29] <Daniel-Minifig> My other PC is nvidia geforce fx.
[03:29] <lufthanza> have you tried glxgears?
[03:30] <masetti> glxgears? for effects?
[03:30] <lufthanza> if glxgears works, most 3d games will too
[03:30] <diego> hi everyone, i have this problem, maybe someone know the solution, am using kde 4.1.1 with kubuntu, and i have this problem, i put my widgets in place and every time i reboot i lose that configuration and i have to reorden them everytime i reboot
[03:31] <lufthanza> diego: try locking the widgets
[03:31] <lufthanza> diego: right click your desktop
[03:31] <bobito> hey people, could anyone give a quick explanation or point to (or even search keywords that might work) to explain how to use multiple | commands in the terminal?  For ex, If I wanted to take the grep of an ls and send it to another program and/or those results to another?  a simple example might be amarok ls | grep .mp3, but I can't get the syntax quite right
[03:32] <diego> lufthanza: i did it but nothing, ^^
[03:32] <lufthanza> bobito: apt-search linux-image | grep 2.6
[03:33] <Dragnslcr> bobito- I think xargs might be what you need there
[03:35] <Daniel-Minifig> massetti, what linux distro do you have installed?
[03:36] <bobito> Dragnslcr: I thought that that was only to do multiple instances quickly.  Since that was probably the wrong jargon, more of if I wanted to do, say, amarok ls | grep .mp3 && amarok ls | grep .flv && amarok ....
[03:36] <Minifig> Do you have a menu item "Compiz Setup"?
[03:36] <bobito> diego: apt-search? I am pretty sure I have the newest grep, is there a way to just use grep to do this?
[03:37] <Minifig> Welcome back powertool08
[03:37] <bobito> diego: and by this i mean my original example, not checking the make of my current grep
[03:37] <Dragnslcr> bobito- I'm not sure how amarok works from the command line. Did you try amarok *.mp3?
[03:38] <diego> bobito: oh
[03:38] <Dragnslcr> bobito- it seems like you're trying to do something from the command line that would be a lot easier to do from within Amarok
[03:38] <lufthanza> bobito: to run a program and then run another without the terminal waiting for it to quit, you use '&", aka "amarok ls | grep.mp3 & && ...
[03:38] <bobito> Dragnslcr: That is awesome, and will definately be useful for the example I gave.  Still doesn't answer the real question though.  what about finding files and putting them in a text file, or searching a file for a list of urls and sending them to firefox, etc
[03:39] <CoJaBo_> What do I need to do to connect to a wireless network? I am trying KNetworkManager, but it is not working.
[03:39] <lufthanza> bobito: i don't think you can pipe things to firefox from the command line
[03:39] <bobito> Dragnslcr: though if its normal for kate, gedit, firefox, or whatever to have a built in function along those lines, itd be pretty sweet
[03:39] <Dragnslcr> I don't either
[03:39] <lufthanza> bobito: maybe with dbus, but that's really hard
[03:40] <Dragnslcr> If you want to write grep results to a file, I think it's just something like ls | grep foo > foo.txt
[03:40] <lufthanza> yea, that would work ^
[03:41] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: you may need to install a wireless driver
[03:42] <Crell> Hi all.  I am having trouble reassociating a bluetooth mouse with my Kubuntu Hardy laptop.  It was previously associated, but then was used with another laptop so disassociatd.
[03:42] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: type "lspci" into a terminal and copy the results into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and give me the resulting url.
[03:42] <Crell> Now, I can't get the laptop to even scan for BT devices or be discoverable.
[03:42] <Crell> When I go into KBluetooth, it "thinks" for several minutes and lists no options at all.
[03:42] <Crell> Any suggestions?
[03:43] <CoJaBo_> lufthanza: I installed a custom kernel that includes the driver, and it sees the card and gives a signal measurement, but cannot connect.
[03:43] <bobito> lufthanza: 'firefox www.google.com' works, and say I have a file with www.google.com hidden in it.  grep can find the www.google.com, theres no way to pipe that elsewhere?
[03:43] <lufthanza> Crell: i'm not experienced with bluetooth sadly
[03:43] <bobito> lufthanza: that implies that you can only pipe to programs written to accept a piping argument.  am i understanding that correcftly?
[03:43] <lufthanza> bobito: maybe
[03:43] <lufthanza> bobito: just a sec
[03:44] <CoJaBo_> lufthanza: It stalls at 57% IP configuration started before it fails, which makes me suspect it is hanging on DHCP, but this is a static IP network.
[03:45] <bobito> Dragnslcr: I was thinking more from a file, to a program.  so finding a url for ex in a text file, then piping that to firefox, or even cooler, finding the name of a file in a file, sending that to grep to search the newly find file, and then sending that to firefox.  I just assumed you could shove a bunh of |s in there and be okay
[03:45] <bobito> lufthanza: thanks
[03:45] <lufthanza> bobito: yeah, firefox won't accept it
[03:46] <bobito> lufthanza: So its a program based thing?
[03:46] <CoJaBo_> Is that the problem, and if so how do I give it the correct config?
[03:46] <lufthanza> bobito: tested with 'grep -o www.google.com new.txt | firefox'
[03:46] <lufthanza> bobito: seemingly
[03:47] <lufthanza> bobito: it seems the program needs to be able to accept stdin input on execution
[03:48] <lufthanza> bobito: such as using "dd if=/dev/sda | gzip -fc > new.img.gz" to create a compressed image of your hard drive
[03:49] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: do you have any network encryption?
[03:50] <CoJaBo_> Yes, WPA
[03:51] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: triple check the keys you are using, make sure you haven't blocked yourself with your routers mac address filtering, etc
[03:52] <CoJaBo_> lufthanza: Key is correct, MAC filtering is disabled.
[03:52] <nicholasstorman> hello
[03:53] <nicholasstorman> Does anyone here know how to restore wine menu
[03:54] <bobito> lufthanza: okay, that sucks, but makes sense.  oh well.  so how would i input the results of say 'grep examples' to maybe gedit or kate instead of screen output?
[03:55] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: have you been able to connect with the current configuration before? or is this your first time setting up NetworkManager
[03:55] <bobito> lufthanza: or rather 'ls | grep example' --> text file or otherwise
[03:55] <lufthanza> on this computer
[03:55] <lufthanza> ls | grep example > new_text.file
[03:56] <jyoseph> hello, quick question.... it's okay if I burn kubuntu iso to a DVD instead of a CD correct?
[03:56] <lufthanza> bobito: or use >> to append the output to an existing text file
[03:56] <bobito> lufthanza: Does > or >> have a name I can check out?
[03:56] <bobito> lufthanza: or is it just greater than?
[03:56] <lufthanza> jyoseph: as long as you burn it as a cd image, it should be fine
[03:56] <bobito> haha
[03:57] <jyoseph> ok great, thanks lufthanza... so in K3b I should say "Burn CD Image" but really burn it to a DVD?
[03:57] <lufthanza> jyoseph: yes, that will work
[03:57] <jyoseph> awesome, thanks!
[03:57] <lufthanza> jyoseph: i've done it a couple of times
[03:57] <jyoseph> good to hear
[03:58] <jyoseph> i'm a noob, should I stick w/ kde 3 or 4?
[03:58] <CoJaBo_> lufthanza: First time setting up with that computer, have tried unsuccessfully 3 times before on the network with another computer and distro, 2 times was the exact same error.
[03:58] <nicholasstorman> 3
[03:58] <jyoseph> roger that
[03:58] <jyoseph> that's what my gut was telling me
[03:58] <nicholasstorman> I need to figure out how to fix wine No matter what I do
[03:58] <lufthanza> bobito: '>' just means to write the stdout of the commands to a file
[03:59] <jyoseph> thx guys/gals... going to go install now...
[03:59] <nicholasstorman> it doesn't work
[03:59] <lufthanza> bobito: '>>' means to append the stdout of commands to a file
[03:59] <bobito> lufthanza: thanks a bunch luft!
[03:59] <lufthanza> bobito: '>2' means to write the stderr to a file if i remember correctly
[04:00] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: Network manager can be a pain in the ass to work with
[04:01] <CoJaBo_> So what do I do?
[04:01] <lufthanza> make sure you have the correct method of wpa authentication selected in nm
[04:02] <lufthanza> also, try with WEP and without encryption to make sure it's just a configuration issue with NM
[04:02] <shane_> hey i have a dell printer and everything im reading says it wont work in linux,but then they turn around and say that its because the drivers are win only
[04:02] <lufthanza> note that you should set the router to wep, etc. while testing that
[04:03] <lufthanza> shane_: dell printer?
[04:03] <lufthanza> what make and model?
[04:03] <shane_> its the dell 944 all in one printer
[04:03] <lufthanza> er, just the model
[04:04] <shane_> should i not be able to wrap the windriver
[04:05] <lufthanza> shane_: if you write a utility to do it
[04:05] <shane_> it is saying it is a host based printer so its cheaper to build because it doesnt require a fast internall cpu
[04:05] <lufthanza> shane_: unfortunately, it seems there are no working solutions for that printer atm
[04:05] <shane_> well could i not just ndiswrapp it and the modprobe
[04:06] <CoJaBo_> Anyone got any ideas?
[04:06] <shane_> or basicly tie it to a rope and use it for a boat ancor
[04:06] <lufthanza> shane_: i don't know, but i doubt it. ndiswrapper mainly works on pci hardware
[04:07] <shane_> ahh ic.well i have a hp here ill just get it up and workin
[04:07] <lufthanza> i would suggest pawning it off on a friend and researching a working printer for linux. Hp ones tend to work real well
[04:07] <lufthanza> nvm
[04:08] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: i don't know what to tell you other than to try configuring it the old-fashioned way
[04:08] <CoJaBo_> Any info/guide on how to do that with a static IP WPA network?
[04:09] <shane_> yah i will have to, i just hate wasting stuff . ok TY for the quick help
[04:09] <lufthanza> gentoo ones will probably work
[04:10] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: http://www.newlinuxuser.com/howto-use-iwconfig/
[04:13] <CoJaBo_> lufthanza: How do I get that to work with WPA and static IP? Could the need for a static IP be the cause of KNetworkManager not working, I don't see anywhere to enter it?
[04:16] <EagleSn> join /debian-es
[04:16] <CoJaBo_> ?
[04:17] <smacfarl> hello. Stupid question. Id I get the latest kubuntu install will it setup kde4.1 from the door?
[04:17] <CoJaBo_> Looks like the KDE 4 is KDE 4.0.3.
[04:17] <smacfarl> ?
[04:18] <CoJaBo_> There should be an update, but I can't get a network connection to do so :(
[04:18] <smacfarl> cojabo_ are you talking to me?
[04:23] <Ashex> can anyone recommend a vnc viewer other then krdc?
[04:23] <Ashex> It's not working too well for me
[04:25] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: to set up a static ip, you would need to do extra stuff
[04:25] <CoJaBo_> lufthanza: Like what?
[04:27] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: try this
[04:27] <lufthanza> go to manual configuration in the knetworkmanager menu
[04:28] <lufthanza> go to your wireless connection, eth1 or ath0 or whatever.
[04:28] <lufthanza> configure it to be static, give it the ip address, plus the essid etc it needs to connect to
[04:30] <lufthanza> hopefully that works for you
[04:30] <CoJaBo_> lufthanza: It just says "no active device"
[04:31] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: ???
[04:32] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: did you right click knetworkmanager?
[04:32] <CoJaBo_> Am I in the right one? Manual configuration after right-clicking on the icon?
[04:32] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: yes
[04:33] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: that would suggest your wireless card is not actually functioning
[04:33] <goldmetal> i just created filter rule in evolution, where's the place to check all the filters created?
[04:34] <CoJaBo_> Clicking Manual configuration prompts for a password, then does nothing.
[04:36] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: type your root password in
[04:36] <CoJaBo_> I used the pass I entered during the install, was that correct?
[04:37] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: probably, is it the same password you use to install packages?
[04:46] <CoJaBo_> lufthanza: I tried running knetworkmanager from Terminal, clicking Manual configuration shows an error (kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kcm_knetworkconfmodule') and googling that got a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/211717) How do I fix that?
[04:47] <mighty-d>  Hi, im having troubles with kdm, im trying to remote login, but so far i can only do it with one user, and i dont know where could be the problem
[04:54]  * SkEmO goes to watch a movie
[04:56] <SkEmO> how can i watch *.divX files?
[04:57] <zac_> hey guys
[04:58] <zac_> i'm makin my way through pretty good
[04:58] <zac_> i installed kubuntu, but wan to go with xfce... how can I disable the kdm auto login to be able to theme the xfce auto login?
[04:59] <CoJaBo_> lufthanza: Any ideas, or is this hopeless?
[05:03] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: sorry, went afk for a sec
[05:05] <CoJaBo_> Is there anything else I can try?
[05:05] <mefisto__> CoJaBo_: type in konsole: ifconfig
[05:06] <mefisto__> that will show you your network devices
[05:07] <CoJaBo_> mefisto__: It shows up, I just can't configure it.
[05:07] <CoJaBo_> bug 211717 seems to be the cause
[05:07] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: yeah, ifconfig and iwconfig are your best bets for configuring your wireless right now
[05:08] <mefisto__> CoJaBo_: what is the interface called? eth0?
[05:08] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: i would downgrade to kde3 to avoid that bug
[05:09] <CoJaBo_> Is there any way to fix it?
[05:10] <mefisto__> fix the bug?
[05:10] <CoJaBo_> I would hope fixing that bug would allow me to connect?
[05:12] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: the kubuntu devs may fix it someday
[05:12] <mefisto__> it's just a configuration program, you don't need it to connect. you can do it manually. the thing is you may have problems with your nework interface may not work well with linux, which is a separate issue
[05:13] <CoJaBo_> Within the <23 hours I have to get this working before imaging it back to WinXP?
[05:13] <mefisto__> CoJaBo_: is this a wired connection?
[05:13] <CoJaBo_> Wireless
[05:13] <CoJaBo_> WPA, Static IP
[05:13] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: you could try wifi-radar to manage your wireless instead
[05:14] <CoJaBo_> I am limited to software I can use/install easily without a working net connection.
[05:14] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: won't be as friendly as nm, but it's friendlier than configuring through ifconfig and iwconfig
[05:15] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: there's no way you can temporarily plug this computer into a lan and do 'sudo apt-get install wifi-radar'?
[05:17] <CoJaBo_> If I unplug something else maybe. But I still have the problem of assigning the static IP.
[05:17] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: wifi-radar will handle all of that instead of knetworkmanager
[05:18] <CoJaBo_> But how do I install it?
[05:18] <lufthanza> in the command line type 'sudo apt-get install wifi-radar'. you can also get it from adept manager
[05:19] <Minifig> Is there a command line code for doing updates/upgrades?
[05:19] <lufthanza> Minifig: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[05:19] <Minifig> Thank you.
[05:19] <CoJaBo_> Keeping in mind this computer does not have a net connection because I need software requiring a net connection to install to get said net connection...
[05:20] <lufthanza> static ip can be handled by /etc/network/interfaces
[05:21] <lufthanza> whats the address and the netmask the computer will be using? i'll post an example /etc/network/interfaces
[05:24] <CoJaBo_> lufthanza: IP would be 192.168.2.42, not sure of mask, Vista won't let me see it.
[05:25] <lufthanza> CoJaBo_: this is a file that would probably work for your ethernet connection
[05:25] <lufthanza> http://paste.ubuntu.com/44780/
[05:26] <lufthanza> type that into nano with this command "sudo /etc/network/interfaces", erase anything else that has eth0 in it, and use ctrl-O to save and ctrl-x to quit.
[05:28] <lufthanza> hopefully that will allow your computer to access your network when you plug an ethernet cable into it
[05:41] <rmc> test
[05:45] <isleshocky77> Am I missing something?  Is there a setting for integration between kopete and Kontact?  I found a ticket, but it says it's closed.
[06:24] <minifig_> Is there a way to fix upgrades when they fail?
[06:25] <minifig_> 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 64 not upgraded.  4 not fully installed or removed.
[06:27] <minifig_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libtunepimp5_0.5.3-7_i386.deb
[06:27] <minifig_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:28] <minifig_> !uprade
[06:28] <minifig_> !upgrade
[06:40] <frybye> Hi - I am running kubuntu 8.04 with both kde3 and kde4.1 - if I use the "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.." to shift to intreped ibex - will I still have access to kde3 and kde4.1 or..?
[06:45] <minifig_> I did an upgrade and now I think i is messed up.
[06:46] <minifig_> I get alot of errors and some things haven't been properly installed/removed
[06:46] <frybye> minifig_: not useable at all or???
[06:46] <minifig_> Also about 64 more items needs to be upgraded.
[06:47] <minifig_> Everything is working, except I get alot of errors.
[06:47] <minifig_> I don't think everything was upgraded and there are stuff that needs fixing.
[06:47] <frybye> minifig_: so basically you are saying a clean new install would probably be the way to go or...?
[06:47] <minifig_> Maybe.  Unless there is a way to fix the problems.
[06:47] <frybye> and or perhaps wait for the final in October...?
[06:48] <minifig_> 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 64 not upgraded.  4 not fully installed or removed.
[06:49] <frybye> minifig_: that is "packages" or??
[06:49] <minifig_> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:49] <minifig_> I get alot of stuff listed that wasn't upgraded.
[06:49] <frybye> and you did this first:
[06:49] <frybye> sudo sed -i /s/hardy/intrepid/g /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:49] <frybye> sudo apt-get update
[06:50] <minifig_> No.
[06:50] <minifig_> My first upgrade was in Synaptic.
[06:50] <frybye> and then...: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:50] <minifig_> I am new to Linux.
[06:51] <frybye> I am also pretty new - but suspect that the above was missing and that was your problem mainly... dont treat this as gospel though...
[06:51] <minifig_> I installed with a CD of Kubuntu Linux 8.04.1
[06:51] <minifig_> I think what it was trying to do was upgrade KDE.
[06:51] <frybye> right - but the distroupdate source has to go in there.. or..
[06:52] <minifig_> sed: -e expression #1, char 5: extra characters after command
[06:52] <frybye> I have god kde4.1 running on hardy8.04 but that is a completly different theme to what I was asking about originally - which was moving from hardy to intrepid
[06:53] <minifig_> Isa intrepid Kubuntu 9?
[06:53] <minifig_> Is
[06:53] <frybye> intreped is (K-)ubuntu 8.10 ...
[06:54] <frybye> 9.04 is the one after that again and not available at all now.. dont exist.. as such...
[06:55] <minifig_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/sysvinit-utils_2.86.ds1-61_i386.deb
[06:55] <minifig_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:55] <minifig_> I get that E: error alot.
[06:55] <frybye> minifig_: like i said pal - I am a linux newbie myself..
[06:56] <frybye> I have little clue when things start to go wrong....
[06:56] <minifig_> No problem.
[06:56] <frybye> and am basically probably going to leave this theme rest for now...
[06:56] <minifig_> I appreciate you trying.
[06:56] <frybye> ie not do the intrepid update myself...
[06:57] <minifig_> I might just redo Linux altogether.
[06:57] <frybye> but to go from hardy with kde3 to hardy with kde3 + kde4.1 is no big deal you will find sutff at kde.org or google on doing that..l.
[06:57] <minifig_> Do an immediate upgrade, or none at all.
[06:57] <minifig_> I might also have installed too many stuff.
[06:58] <minifig_> I loaded Synaptic and installed loads of their games.
[06:58] <frybye> but dont mix up the themes.. a distro upgrade is completly different to adding a new version of kde which is just the grafic interface basically...
[06:58] <minifig_> Loads of the educational stuff also.
[06:58] <frybye> kde in kubuntu or gnome in ubunto just sorta sits on top of hardy or ibex etc....
[06:59] <frybye> most kde3 apps will run inside of kde4.1 even if not especially made for it...
[07:00] <frybye> but do you know have the option to switch between kde3 "session type" or the kde4 - session type"" on booting/login???
[07:00] <minifig_> Have you read the site on Wikipedia comparing Linux and Windows?  I think they did an awesome job at it.  One menioned was backwards compatibility.
[07:00] <minifig_> No.
[07:01] <frybye> then I am not sure what to advise..
[07:01] <minifig_> That is okay.
[07:01] <frybye> if you go to an application and open help | about kde | what version does it show...?
[07:01] <minifig_> 3.5.9
[07:02] <frybye> ok - eh this is not so simple either - cos if you are using a version 3 appl it shows that even if in kde4.1 ...
[07:02] <minifig_> I am running Konversation
[07:03] <frybye> dont be mad with me - but basically i am just quitting for now - I need to get some other stuff done.. yeah in Konversation it is the same here though I am running it in kde4.1 - if you hvae the kde4.1 running and look in dolphin etc.. it should show the kde4 infos - but i am off for now pal - all the best...
[07:08] <romunov> any tips on how to remove ooo3b from kubuntu? :D
[07:19] <slammer> hello all
[07:20] <slammer> can someone help me with bcm 4306 wireless card
[07:21] <slammer> anybody talking
[07:27] <jussi01> slammer: whats the issue?
[07:29] <slammer> i cannot connet i have read everything im new to this
[07:29] <jussi01> slammer: ok, so what happens. what Kind of network (encryption)?
[07:29] <slammer> wpa
[07:31] <jussi01> slammer: have you read the wpa pages? ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo )
[07:31] <slammer> dont know where they are
[07:31] <romunov> i need some help adding openoffice3 icons to the start menu
[07:31] <jussi01> slammer: I just gave you the address...
[07:31] <romunov> i've installed kde-integration package, but that didn't help...
[07:31] <slammer> sorry ill look at that
[07:35] <slammer> i cannot get knetwork to open
[07:35] <romunov> weird. i navigate to /opt/openoffice3/program/soffice and i get 2.4
[07:37] <slammer> ok it says no wireless netork found
[07:41] <romunov> how do i change that the command soffie is pointing to /opt/openoffice.org3 and not /opt/openoffice.org?
[07:46] <jussi01> romunov: man ln
[07:46] <jussi01> ;)
[08:16] <sebastian_> when will kde 4.2 be released?
[08:26] <jussi01> Sebastianito: Id suggest having a look on the kde site for that info
[08:30] <keldrona> got a problem, please help me: I try the following wx-config --unicode but it says:
[08:30] <keldrona> Warning: No config found to match: /usr/local/bin/wx-config --unicode
[08:30] <keldrona>            in /usr/local/lib/wx/config
[08:50] <nicobrain> good morning
[08:50] <nicobrain> i have a problem with a kubuntu 8.04 maschine .....
[08:51] <nicobrain> the wlan doesnt work ... the knetworkmanager shows nothing and "iwlist scan" shows nothing ... but there are many wifis
[08:51] <jussi01> nicobrain: which wifi card you have?
[08:51] <nicobrain> mom
[08:53] <nicobrain> how can i get this info?
[08:53] <jussi01> nicobrain: is it inside the pc or usb?
[08:53] <nicobrain> if i go in the infocentrum there are now wlan card??
[08:53] <nicobrain> inside
[08:54] <jussi01> nicobrain: please go to terminal and type: lspci
[08:54] <jussi01> (then hit enter)
[08:54] <jussi01> nicobrain: then copy it and put it to pastebin for me
[08:54] <jussi01> !pastebin
[08:54] <nicobrain> mom..
[08:56] <nicobrain> http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/391840/
[08:59] <nicobrain> jussi01  ... idea?
[09:08] <nicobrain> has anibody an idea?
[09:17] <nicobrain> which madwifi driver i need ?
[09:18] <nicobrain> for an Intersil ISL3890 chipset?
[09:19] <kai__> any german around?
[09:19] <nicobrain> yes
[09:19] <kai__> cool, ich hab mal ne frage..
[09:19] <nicobrain> frag mal, bin zwar kein guru ...
[09:20] <kai__> bin kubuntu anfänger und wollte jetzt firefox installieren, hat wohl auch funktioniert aber ich finde jetzt nicht mehr das verzeichnis wo er es hin installiert hat.
[09:20] <kai__> irgendwelche ideen?
[09:21] <nicobrain> es sidn viele verzeichnisse, die ordnerstruktur ist um einiges anders als bei windoows
[09:21] <nicobrain> was willst dud denn in dem verzeichniss?
[09:22] <kai__> ich will firefox starten, finde die exe oder wie es in linux halt heißt nciht
[09:22] <nicobrain> müsste doch im Menue unter dem Punkt Internet sein
[09:22] <kai__> nein, leider nciht
[09:23] <nicobrain> drueck mal "Alt" und "F2" dann kannst du als befehl einfach "firefox" eingeben
[09:24] <kai__> "befehl nciht gefunden"
[09:24] <nicobrain> dann ist firefox nicht installiert
[09:24] <kai__> aber ich war ja schon kurzzeitig mit firefox im inet
[09:25] <nicobrain> mach mal ne konsole auf (Menue -System - Konsole)
[09:25] <kai__> ja...
[09:25] <nicobrain> "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[09:26] <kai__> konnte lock nicht bekommen...
[09:27] <kai__> "is another process using it?"
[09:27] <nicobrain> ???
[09:27] <nicobrain> ahja ... hast du adept offen?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:27] <kai__> ja läd gerade was runter
[09:27] <nicobrain> dann is klar ;)
[09:28] <kai__> updatet gerade das sys
[10:03] <mehdi> #apache
[10:06]  * abaddon quit
[10:20] <mehdi> hello
[10:20] <sbucat> hi
[10:20] <mehdi> i try to make vhost with apache2
[10:22] <mehdi> i make 2 new file in /etc/apache2/site-available
[10:22] <mehdi> and i link withe a2ensite
[10:23] <mehdi> when i reload apache i have a message
[10:23] <mehdi>  /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[10:23] <mehdi>  * Reloading web server config apache2 [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80, the first has precedence
[10:23] <mehdi>  [warn] NameVirtualHost myip:0 has no VirtualHosts
[10:24] <jussi01> mehdi: while asking here is certainly ok, you may get some more help in #ubuntu-server
[10:34] <ForgeAus> whats with virtualbox ose's packages?
[10:42] <abby87> hello i'm compiling a package from cvs and i seem to get the error FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found
[10:42] <abby87> using kde4
[10:43] <abby87> kde 4.1.0 that is
[11:01] <lenea> hey all. dolphin suddenly crashed and now it doesn't want to start anymore. i already tried reinstalling it. any pointers?
[11:10] <distcc> rp-pppoe is not on kubuntu 8.04 as default?
[11:11] <distcc> coz i have problem configuring  pppoe, i used to be familiar with pppoe-setup. pppoeconf doesnt do the job for me on kubuntu or ubuntu
[11:11] <distcc> any idea ?
[11:26] <dazza> hi, i'm having trouble installing the proprietary ATI drivers for my new 4870 - I can't get restricted-manager to display any options while following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:27] <dazza> I can run alt+f2 -> jockey-kde but it shows me a blank list
[11:27] <jussi01> dazza: thats an extremely new card, no?
[11:27] <dazza> jussi01: yes, I think it is the latest
[11:27] <jussi01> !envy | dazza
[11:28] <dazza> ok, thankyou
[11:28] <jussi01> dazza: likely the drivers are not in ubuntu yet, try envy.
[11:28] <jussi01> Just remember, while we will try to help if things go wrong, it is an "unsupported" method.
[11:29] <dazza> i'll risk it :D thanks
[11:31] <jussi01> dazza: no probs. let me know how things go. :)
[11:31] <dazza> hmm, looks like the linux driver for this card is in beta
[11:32] <jussi01> Quite possibly - its a very new card
[11:51] <mohi> hey friends. how can find which version am I using? command please :)
[11:51] <dazza> mohi: cat /etc/issue
[11:51] <mohi> tanx dazza but I want my kde version
[11:52] <dazza> mohi: ah. from console?
[11:52] <mohi> dazza: yes
[11:52] <dazza> no idea, sorry :/
[11:52] <mohi> dazza: yes
[11:52] <mohi> ;) ty
[11:53] <dazza> jussi01: If you're interested, I followed the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI (installing latest drivers from ati.com) using catalyst 8.8 drivers
[11:53] <dazza> about to restart... will come back in a tic
[11:54] <jussi01> !version | mohi
[11:54] <mohi> ty jussi01 but I want the kde version ;)
[12:00] <mohi> ok. this is for kde4: "kde4-config --version" and kde3.5: "kde-config --version"
[12:02] <vikku> iam installing a pkg using apt-get and geting this err ::  Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[12:02] <vikku> pls help
[12:33] <weyland> hi guys! i have a problem running a program from console. if i want to execute it says "bash: ./ptspls: Permission denied" - file has rwxr-xr-x - what am i doing wrong?
[12:34] <writher> You probably need to execute with sudo
[12:34] <writher> NM
[12:34] <writher> You should be able to execute with those permissions.
[12:34] <writher> How are you executing it
[12:35] <weyland> just by "./ptspls"
[12:35] <jussi01> weyland: try chmod a+x ptspls
[12:35] <jussi01> then ./ptspls
[12:36] <weyland> nothing
[12:36] <weyland> but i mean the executable flags were set before :)
[12:36] <jussi01> right. and who owns the file?
[12:37] <weyland> the user that tries to execute owns the file
[12:37] <jussi01> ok, Im out of ideas then. :/
[12:37] <jussi01> wait, is it a binary file?
[12:38] <weyland> it should be
[12:38] <jussi01> or a script?
[12:38] <jussi01> ok
[12:38] <weyland> executable
[12:38] <jussi01> yeah, but scripts and binary can be executables...
[12:40] <weyland> i think i have the problem: my home directory is a network mount
[12:41] <weyland> i moved it to another location and it works
[12:41] <weyland> but i do not understand why they give me network mount for my whole home directory
[12:42] <judibet> Hi everybody!
[12:43] <weyland> thanks for your help!
[12:43] <jussi01> weyland: great to hear you got it working :9
[12:43] <judibet> I've a small problem :(.
[12:43] <jussi01> !ask
[12:44] <judibet> I have audio Realtek and I can't increase or decrease my sound.
[12:44] <judibet> If somebody can help me please?
[12:51] <frybye> Who has any experiance with doing a distro- update to intrepid from k-hardy?
[12:51] <judibet> I have audio Realtek and I can't increase or decrease my sound.
[12:51] <judibet> If somebody can help me please?
[12:52] <jussi01> frybye: #ubuntu+1 for intrepid ;)
[12:52] <frybye> judibet: stand further from the speakers?? ;=) - sorry... heheh
[12:52] <jussi01> judibet: how are you trying to change the volume?
[12:52] <judibet> Yes.
[12:52] <frybye> okl jussi01
[12:52] <jussi01> judibet: have you played with the mixer settings?
[12:53] <fritz> i can ping ip address but not the URL name..??
[12:53] <judibet> The mixer idem.
[12:53] <fritz> why is that?
[12:53] <judibet> I can't modify the volume whith the mixer.
[12:53] <fritz> so i can't see the websites
[12:53] <nowhere> fritz: can be a couple of things. check your DNS setup
[12:53] <fritz> ok
[12:53] <jussi01> judibet: please do lspci so we can see what card you have exactly
[12:53] <judibet> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[12:54] <jussi01> ahhh
[12:54] <jussi01> !intelhda | judibet
[12:54] <judibet> Ok, thanks ;).
[12:55] <judibet> And nobody know why laptop computers screens go in lower light sometimes ?
[12:56] <judibet> And how fix that please ?
[12:56] <jussi01> judibet: err, that usually happens when you unplug from the mains, to save power...
[12:56] <fritz> can i get help about vbox networking?
[12:57] <jussi01> fritz: you can ask, also try in the virtualbox channel
[12:58] <fritz> thanks
[13:01] <definitely> Hello all.
[13:01] <definitely> :)
[13:05] <fritz> virtualbox, the guest XP can ping the ip adresses of websites but NOT the URL names.. all of the configuration of XP is under default settings now. bridge is ok, i can communicate the guest as well as seeing the shared folders, host Kubuntu has no any problem with internet, only thing is XP can't connect the websites altough it can ping their ip address. is there any suggestion?
[13:05] <geek> hmm
[13:06] <geek> check the DNS server settings of the VM
[13:06] <fritz> mm
[13:06] <fritz> ..
[13:06] <definitely> Anyone can say, how to add user to group
[13:06] <definitely>  ?
[13:06] <geek> you can ping, which means its not a connectivity issue
[13:06] <fritz> ah ok
[13:07] <nowhere> definitely: K->System Settings->User Management, enable administator mode, add to group
[13:08] <geek> possibly set opendns or a local dns server as the dns server and try, but its not likely a ubuntu issue
[13:08] <nowhere> definitely: there's also a way of doing it via the command line if you prefer that way
[13:08] <definitely> nowhere: Probably there is no User Managament, coz i installed KDE 4.1.1 there wasnt KDE 3, i was changeing from Xubuntu to Kubuntu so i directly installed Latest KDE withou KDE 3
[13:08] <nowhere> fritz: what networking did you set up? NAT networking?
[13:09] <nowhere> definitely: uhm, ok. I donät know anything about kde4
[13:09] <definitely> nowhere: Ok no probs, thnx anyway
[13:09] <definitely> :)
[13:09] <nowhere> definitely: but the command line command will still work
[13:09] <nowhere> definitely: sudo adduser user group
[13:09] <definitely> heh found problem :P
[13:10] <definitely> Kuser wasnt installed. :)
[13:10] <nowhere> definitely: replacing user by the username and group by the groupname
[13:10] <nowhere> so how does kde4 work otherwise?
[13:11] <definitely> very good
[13:11] <jussi01> kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 thanks :)
[13:11] <nowhere> I was getting the impression that it's still very bleeding edge as in "you still do a lot of bleeding"
[13:11] <definitely> i was angry on kde 4 before
[13:11] <definitely> but now i love it :)
[13:11] <nowhere> jussi01: ok, fair enough
[13:11] <definitely> 4.1.1 fixed everything i need :)
[13:18] <definitely> DOh have no idea what happened, just got message from friend on skype while was installing kdeadmin package, then X Restarted, and after i loged in again, i dont see KDE Menu icon
[13:18] <definitely> umm
[13:19] <jussi01> definitely: -> #kubuntu-kde4 ;)
[13:20] <definitely> ok
[13:34] <_jamfx_> hi there
[13:35] <_jamfx_> i have some troubles setting up my vpn-connection, does anyone know something about VPN?
[13:37] <mehdi> #kubuntu-fr
[13:37] <jussi01> !vpn | _jamfx_
[13:38] <_jamfx_> @jussi01 thank you I will try it, but it is not about gaming.
[14:06] <domi1kenobi> how can I upgrade my kubuntu 4.0.3 to 4.1 ?
[14:06] <nico_> wow
[14:06] <nico_> upgrade 4.03
[14:06] <nico_> apt-get update
[14:07] <nico_> apt-get upgrade
[14:07] <domi1kenobi> i did
[14:07] <domi1kenobi> but gives me 0 upgraded
[14:07] <nico_> oks
[14:07] <nico_> one min
[14:07] <domi1kenobi> but thx anyway
[14:08] <domi1kenobi> maybe the version listed under Konqueror's Help is inacurate?
[14:09] <nico_> maybe
[14:11] <domi1kenobi> About KDE Version 4.0.3
[14:11] <domi1kenobi> I don't get it
[14:14] <ahmos> !sensors
[14:21] <nico_> domi1kenobi
[14:21] <nico_> apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:25] <Woosta> Not sure if this is the place to talk or not .. I did a dist-upgrade to gutsy last week .. and ever since, performance has been really really bad. But it's nothing that's using memory or CPU. So I figured it was the GPU. I use the proprietory ATI driver, and so updated it. It just got worse.
[14:26] <Woosta> So now I've switch to the 'vesa' driver and it's all just fine
[14:27] <Woosta> So it looks like it's something to do with the GPU and the fglrx driver with gutsy
[14:27] <Woosta> Is this a known problem? I can't find any google goodness ..
[14:29] <darkwizzard_> How come when I click on a link in kopete or any other application I get a KIOExec error dialog ?
[14:30] <darkwizzard_> Woosta: did you try using envyng
[14:30] <darkwizzard_> ?
[14:31] <Woosta> I was not previously aware of it
[14:31] <Woosta> How is it any better than just installing the latest version from ATI's website?
[14:31] <darkwizzard_> I'm not sure, I haven't used it, but many people praise it
[14:31] <darkwizzard_> maybe it sets up things better.
[14:31] <darkwizzard_> I had many problems with ATI
[14:35] <Alex135> whats a good C++ development enviroment for Kubuntu
[14:36] <darkwizzard_> Kdevelop
[14:36] <darkwizzard_> or Netbeans
[14:36] <darkwizzard_> Or Eclipse
[14:36] <Alex135> i tried Eclipse... or am trying
[14:37] <Alex135> cant get it to work right
[14:37] <darkwizzard_> what do you want to code ?
[14:37] <darkwizzard_> I mean, what toolkit
[14:37] <darkwizzard_> cause if you use Qt, then QDevelop is cool too
[14:37] <Alex135> general perpous codeing
[14:37] <darkwizzard_> try netbeans then
[14:37] <darkwizzard_> it has a C++ plugin
[14:37] <Alex135> k
[14:37] <darkwizzard_> it's available on their site
[14:37] <Alex135> so does eclpise, cant get it to work right though
[14:38] <darkwizzard_> I didn't have much luck with it either.
[14:38] <darkwizzard_> But I prefer netbeans to eclipse
[14:38] <darkwizzard_> :)
[14:38] <darkwizzard_> But I currently use Kdevelop and I like it
[14:39] <Alex135> is there a current version in the ubuntu repos?
[14:39] <darkwizzard_> not really
[14:39] <darkwizzard_> The current one is 6.1
[14:39] <darkwizzard_> and I only see 5.5 in the repos
[14:40] <Alex135> hmm
[14:40] <Alex135> crud
[14:40] <Alex135> work needs to be done on the repos
[14:40] <Alex135> x.x
[14:40] <Alex135> anyone know of any good unoficial repos for ubuntu that are kept up to date?
[14:41] <ForgeAus> yeah Kdevelop is nice :)
[14:41] <darkwizzard_> you could just download netbeans from their site
[14:41] <Alex135> i mean repos for adept
[14:41] <Alex135> true
[14:41] <darkwizzard_> there are a lot of options
[14:41] <darkwizzard_> http://download.netbeans.org/netbeans/6.1/final/
[14:41] <Alex135> ya, i am on they're site
[14:42] <ForgeAus> I can't wait till KDE apps get all integrated with kparts (if they're going to be)  so you can open your documents in your IDE, browse in your chats, etc etc...
[14:42] <Alex135> indeed
[14:43] <darkwizzard_> Also did anyone try the kde4 version of Kdevelop ?
[14:43] <darkwizzard_> I don't see that either in the repos
[14:45] <Alex135> kde4 is crowding up the repos
[14:45] <ForgeAus> same here...
[14:45] <ForgeAus> I havn't tried it
[14:45] <Alex135> they need to seperate the kde4 stuff from teh kde 3
[14:45] <darkwizzard_> Err, I think it is separated
[14:45] <darkwizzard_> IIRC it's a different depository
[14:45] <ForgeAus> they will in Ubuntu with Intrepid I tihnk
[14:45] <ForgeAus> they're going to make .kde kde4 with no kde3 :(
[14:46] <darkwizzard_> you mean kde4 will be the default on intrepid ?
[14:46] <ForgeAus> you can use an extra repo to get closer to cutting edge KDE yes...
[14:46] <ForgeAus> ie 4.1.1 or something insead of the 4.0.3 in the repos)
[14:46] <Alex135> i hate kde4
[14:46] <ForgeAus> yes intrepid will be kde4
[14:46] <Alex135> i rather have kde3
[14:46] <Alex135> i know how to use kde3
[14:46] <ForgeAus> me too Alex
[14:46] <darkwizzard_> same here
[14:47] <darkwizzard_> still use kde3
[14:47] <darkwizzard_> but they say 4.2 will be usable
[14:47] <Alex135> besides kde3 is much more realistic for the advanced linux user
[14:47] <ForgeAus> I want them to add legacy kde3 in it.. but nobdoy seems to be listening to me
[14:47] <ForgeAus> I base my OS on kde3, I like plyaing with kde4 but I don't make it default
[14:47] <darkwizzard_> I bet they will support kde3 too
[14:47] <ghostcube> kde4 isnt ready
[14:47] <ghostcube> thats just the fact and 4.2 wont be too
[14:47] <ForgeAus> well when intrepid comes around kde4 will be better than it is now, but will it be *THERE* yet?
[14:48] <Alex135> while kde4 has a lot of fancy crud (even when it is done) they should have an option to switch kde4 to make it look like kde3 (menus act the same way)
[14:48] <ghostcube> i run compiz i dont need kde4 eye candy
[14:48] <ForgeAus> you can use the kmenu from kde3 in kde4
[14:48] <ForgeAus> but thats not it...
[14:48] <darkwizzard_> I don't know
[14:48] <Alex135> you know what i mean though
[14:48] <darkwizzard_> KDE 4 on OpenSuse is kind of ahead
[14:49] <ghostcube> u will see if the users are complaining about this new kde 4 default thing
[14:49] <ForgeAus> actually I prefer KDE4 to compiz except the desktop cube is missing :(
[14:49] <ForgeAus> the panel/kicker isn't as customizable yet...
[14:49] <ghostcube> and i would say they will do
[14:49] <Alex135> i didn't like openSuSe because of its menu's more or less
[14:49] <ForgeAus> give it time... see what happens...
[14:49] <Alex135> now that kde 4 is going to that im really upset
[14:49] <darkwizzard_> I don't like OpenSUSE because of it's package management :)
[14:49] <ghostcube> opensuse is not good last suse was good was 6.2
[14:49] <ForgeAus> I just hope they do decide to put in a .kde3 (so .kde4 can be default if they want it that way...)
[14:50] <Alex135> they will for a bit
[14:50] <ghostcube> if they kick kde3 they will lose users
[14:50] <darkwizzard_> I bet there will be some repo with kde3 packages
[14:50] <Alex135> but in october 2009 they end all kde3
[14:50] <Alex135> in ubuntu anyway
[14:50] <Alex135> :(
[14:50] <darkwizzard_> hell yeah, I'd rather use gnome than kde4
[14:50] <ghostcube> well see
[14:50] <Alex135> it says so on they're site
[14:50] <ghostcube> yep i will switch to gnome too if this happens
[14:50] <darkwizzard_> October 2009, by that time KDE4 should be awesome
[14:50] <ghostcube> :D
[14:50] <darkwizzard_> :)
[14:51] <ForgeAus> darkwizzard I wonder if kde3 will continue to be developed after this latest .10 release?
[14:51] <darkwizzard_> no, they don't work on it anymore
[14:51] <Alex135> probably not
[14:51] <darkwizzard_> only bugfixes
[14:51] <ForgeAus> I think its sad that they want kde4 to be the only choice :(...
[14:51] <ghostcube> as far as there is no replacement for an working kcontrol i dont want kde4
[14:51] <Alex135> just like they arn't working on gnome anymore but the new gnome 2
[14:51] <darkwizzard_> it will be ok.But KDE4 needs a lot of work :)
[14:51] <Alex135> it looks sorta nice right now... but i hate it
[14:51] <ForgeAus> you don't need it in kubuntu ghostcube, kubuntu has a system-settings which does kcontrol for you basically
[14:52] <ghostcube> ^^
[14:52] <ForgeAus> but yeah I think its important that they get/have a kcontrol even still
[14:52] <ghostcube> i use kcontrol since years
[14:52] <darkwizzard_> well they focused too much on the API details instead of porting apps
[14:52] <ghostcube> and i wont use systemsettings ever
[14:52] <darkwizzard_> me too
[14:52] <ghostcube> this windooz crap
[14:52] <darkwizzard_> I like kcontrol better
[14:52] <darkwizzard_> it's more powerfull
[14:52] <ForgeAus> hehe I have a settings icon on my desktop for kcontrol :)
[14:53] <ghostcube> i have kicked systemsettings of kmenu
[14:53] <ghostcube> and use kcontrol
[14:53] <ForgeAus> wait not desktop panel
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> just edit .conf files ;0
[14:53] <darkwizzard_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4#KDE_4.2
[14:53] <darkwizzard_> That explains why I haven't seen kdevelop kde4 in the repost
[14:53] <darkwizzard_> *-t
[14:53] <ghostcube> ActionParsnip: heh
[14:53] <darkwizzard_> it's not ported yet :d
[14:54] <ForgeAus> I should put a kdesu konqueror and kdesu terminal on there too, right now I only got basic user ones...
[14:54] <ForgeAus> by terminal I mean konsole of course
[14:54] <ghostcube> i run gnome terminal cause it has real opacity
[14:54] <ghostcube> :D
[14:54] <Alex135> ill manually redevelop the setup of kde4 to make it look like kde3 myself if i must, but i hate the way it looks like openSuSE and windows vista
[14:54] <ForgeAus> rofl
[14:54] <ForgeAus> is there still a gnome-multi-terminal?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> ghostcube: yakuake for me
[14:55] <ForgeAus> whats the diff between that and powershell anyhow?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus: terminal suppots tabs
[14:55] <ghostcube> yakuake ?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> !yakuake | ghostcube
[14:55] <ForgeAus> its a quake-inspired terminal for kde
[14:55] <KiDFlaSh> someone know a good, xorg.conf tutorial?
[14:55] <ghostcube> ah
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> ok basically it like this
[14:55] <ghostcube> the terminal
[14:55] <ghostcube> lol yes i know
[14:55] <Alex135> wops, my bad
[14:55] <Alex135> KiDFlaSh: what do you need?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> ghostcube: it uses konsole but moves up and down with a hotkey
[14:55] <Alex135> KiDFlaSh: as in what are you trying to do in the xorg.conf
[14:55] <darkwizzard_> KiDFlaSh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is good for basic things
[14:56] <ForgeAus> I've never played quake so I guess its like yakuake :)
[14:56] <ghostcube> ActionParsnip: yes tried it :)
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ghostcube: in gnome the equiv is tilda
[14:56] <ghostcube> forget about the name lol
[14:56] <Alex135> darkwizzard_: that doesn't work as well in ubuntu 8.04
[14:56] <KiDFlaSh> but i i reconfigure THERE IS NOTHING
[14:56] <ghostcube> ActionParsnip: i run the embedded terminal on compiz cube
[14:56] <KiDFlaSh> no driver nothing
[14:56] <Alex135> darkwizzard_: it just scews everything up
[14:56] <ghostcube> so gnome-terminal was needed
[14:56] <darkwizzard_> KiDFlaSh: backups ?
[14:56] <ForgeAus> cept with an upgraded doom game behind it
[14:56] <darkwizzard_> check /etc/X11/
[14:56] <KiDFlaSh> i show you my xorg.conf
[14:56] <darkwizzard_> for older versions of xorg.conf
[14:56] <Alex135> use pastebin
[14:57] <ghostcube> nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-visuals --d24
[14:57] <ghostcube> isnt this going
[14:57] <KiDFlaSh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/43099/
[14:57] <Alex135> your right, it isn't setup properly
[14:57] <KiDFlaSh> there is nothing in
[14:57] <darkwizzard_> it's kind of short :)
[14:57] <Alex135> 1 sec, ill send mine
[14:57] <KiDFlaSh> YES
[14:57] <darkwizzard_> should I paste mine ?
[14:57] <KiDFlaSh> if you want
[14:58] <darkwizzard_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/44903/
[14:58] <darkwizzard_> I'm an ati user
[14:58] <darkwizzard_> unfortunately for me :)
[14:58] <KiDFlaSh> i use ati too
[14:58] <Alex135> wait
[14:58] <Alex135> are you trying to setup ati or nvidia
[14:58] <gadoff> хэлло
[14:58] <KiDFlaSh> aati
[14:58] <Alex135> ah
[14:59] <Alex135> nvm then
[14:59] <Alex135> never did ati
[14:59] <KiDFlaSh> ?
[14:59] <Alex135> i was gonna post my nvidia xorg.conf
[14:59] <Alex135> :p
[14:59] <darkwizzard_> I'm using the open source radeon driver
[14:59] <darkwizzard_> so you need to modify the driver section if you use fglrx
[14:59] <Alex135> i have had so much trouble with nvidia that i can setup just about ANY nvidia carde
[14:59] <Alex135> card*
[14:59] <Alex135> from all the troubleshooting i do
[15:00] <KiDFlaSh> i dont know which driver
[15:00] <Alex135> atliest on ubuntu anyway
[15:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> f
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Alex135: trien envyng-qt?
[15:00] <KiDFlaSh> i have the preinstalled ubuntu driver
[15:00] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: I woudln't recommend it
[15:00] <KiDFlaSh> dont know which ubuntu uses
[15:00] <Alex135> ActionParsnip: what is that?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T: works fine, except having to roll back the driver to nv after a kernel reboot and rerunning
[15:01] <Alex135> KiDFlaSh: look at this.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !envyng | Alex135
[15:01] <Alex135> anyway i gotta head out
[15:01] <Tm_T> !worksforme
[15:01] <Alex135> time for class
[15:01] <Alex135> bye all
[15:01] <darkwizzard_> KiDFlaSh: but you should have your old xorg in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2008whateverdatitwas
[15:01] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> byer bye bye bye bye bye ybr
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T: I know the works for me deal
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T: thats why i gave him the factoid
[15:02] <KiDFlaSh> yes i have
[15:02] <darkwizzard_> then you can check the driver there
[15:02] <KiDFlaSh> i want know which driver i have
[15:03] <darkwizzard_> well open an older one
[15:03] <darkwizzard_> and see the driver section
[15:03] <darkerwizard> http://typedeal.com/
[15:04] <KiDFlaSh> i have 3
[15:04] <darkerwizard> you can not tell the difference
[15:04] <KiDFlaSh> loike 2008xxxxx
[15:04] <DarkWizzard> what's with the spamming ?
[15:04] <darkerwizard> brand new 2008 models
[15:04] <darkerwizard> http://typedeal.com/
[15:04] <darkerwizard> um
[15:04] <darkerwizard> just testing
[15:04] <darkerwizard> sry
[15:05] <DarkWizzard> yeah right
[15:05] <darkerwizard> my first time on irc
[15:05] <DarkWizzard> anyway I gtg
[15:05] <DarkWizzard> see ya later guys
[15:05] <darkerwizard> bye
[15:06] <gp> hi
[15:06] <need_cancer_must> hi
[15:06] <jagawana> #huddan
[15:07] <wernerm> Hi! Has anyone here ever built vsftpd from source package (like .tar.gz) ?
[15:07] <gp> i am facing issues with unbu /kubuntu on my laptop
[15:07] <gp> power drains in just 45  min
[15:07] <need_cancer_must> oh no
[15:07] <gp> i have sony via fa11s laptop
[15:08] <gp> i have sony via fa11s laptop
[15:08] <gp> power drains in just 45  min
[15:08] <dyingofcancer> check the logs
[15:08] <kunim_> anyone ever got a ati/amd hd3200 card working properly under ubuntu? it always hardlocks my pc when playing videos with the latest (and older) fglrx drivers...
[15:08] <gp> hany power managegment pakage for this ?
[15:08] <gp> any power managegment pakage for this ?
[15:08] <dyingofcancer> no
[15:09] <gp> man my laptop also runs freaking hot
[15:09] <gp> i am facing issues with unbu /kubuntu on my laptop
[15:09] <dyingofcancer> ah
[15:09] <gp> power drains in just 45  min
[15:09] <dyingofcancer> that is why u r loosing power
[15:09] <gp> man my laptop also runs freaking hot
[15:09] <gp> any power managegment pakage for this ?
[15:09] <KiDFlaSh> DarkWizzard: http://paste.ubuntu.com/44908/
[15:09] <dyingofcancer> put on speedstep
[15:09] <gp> i am facing issues with unbu /kubuntu on my laptop
[15:09] <gp> man my laptop also runs freaking hot
[15:10] <gp> power drains in just 45  min
[15:10] <gp> any power managegment pakage for this ?
[15:10] <gp> i have sony via fa11s laptop
[15:10] <dyingofcancer>  <dyingofcancer> put on speedstep
[15:10] <gp> am i invisible ?
[15:10] <gp> yo hoooo
[15:10] <cuznt> no
[15:10] <gp> oks lol :-)
[15:11] <cuznt> i just do not know the answer
[15:11] <gp> does ubuntu has power managent issues ?
[15:11] <cuznt> not with me
[15:11] <cuznt> but i have a tower
[15:11] <gp> i am taking about laptop
[15:12] <cuznt> maybe your inside is dirty
[15:12] <dyingofcancer> have u googled it?
[15:12] <gp> hehe
[15:12] <cuznt> pc that is
[15:12] <dyingofcancer> u can get a cooler u know
[15:12] <gp> i can airtic also
[15:12] <gp> or use it in fidge
[15:13] <gp> what the ubuntu ir channel
[15:13] <gp> maybe people know there
[15:14] <ForgeAus> I don't get it Yahoo supports Opera web browser but not Konqueror?
[15:14] <geek> ;p
[15:15] <dyingofcancer> #ubuntu
[15:15] <geek> probably cause they only really test the windows based browsers
[15:15] <dyingofcancer> safari is windows now
[15:16] <ForgeAus> ah and safari is now windows, but back when it wasn't yet they still had safari
[15:21] <Tm_T> dyingofcancer: no, that nick is not welcome, I afraid
[15:22] <gp> i am facing issues with unbu /kubuntu on my laptop
[15:22] <gp> i am facing issues with unbu /kubuntu on my laptop
[15:22] <dyingofcancer> what kind of problems?
[15:22] <Tm_T> gp: no need to repeat, son (:
[15:22] <Tm_T> dyingofcancer: mind to change your nick?
[15:22] <dyingofcancer> sure go ahead
[15:22] <dyingofcancer> surprise me
[15:22] <Tm_T> dyingofcancer: I mean, you change it
[15:23] <geek> ForgeAus: lol. sad thing is i'm RDPing into a session just for google chrome. its growing on me
[15:23] <dyingofcancer> :(
[15:23] <gp> man my laptop also runs freaking hot
[15:23] <gp> i am facing issues with unbu /kubuntu on my laptop
[15:23] <gp> any power managegment pakage for this ?
[15:23] <gp> i have sony via fa11s laptop
[15:24] <notfair> i just googled that - there is no such laptop type
[15:26] <gp> i am facing issues with unbu /kubuntu on my laptop
[15:26] <Freku> sony vaio ?
[15:27] <gp> yes
[15:27] <gp> Freku: do u know how to resolve it
[15:28] <Freku> nope  was just trying to get the name of the laptop right
[15:28] <Freku> because didnt find it on google
[15:28] <Freku> im a linux newbie
[15:29] <KiDFlaSh> do someone know a GOOD xorg.conf TUTORIAL?
[15:30] <Freku> if you search on google  "sony viao kubuntu"  maybe you get something
[15:31] <urbinek> hi
[15:33] <urbinek> i've go realy weird problem with my DNS
[15:33] <urbinek> i can ping them but they aren't translating www > IP ;/
[15:34] <notfair> examine the dns return packet
[15:34] <notfair> there is an error code field
[15:34] <urbinek> how ?
[15:34] <notfair> packet sniffer
[15:35] <urbinek> well, i can't install it now
[15:35] <Freku> use opendns servers ?
[15:35] <urbinek> also
[15:36] <urbinek> urbinek@haruko:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[15:36] <urbinek> nameserver 194.204.152.34
[15:36] <urbinek> nameserver 194.204.159.1
[15:36] <urbinek> nameserver 213.120.62.103
[15:36] <urbinek> nameserver 213.120.61.104
[15:36] <urbinek> nameserver 208.67.222.222
[15:36] <urbinek> nameserver 208.67.220.220
[15:36] <urbinek> nameserver 212.85.112.32
[15:36] <urbinek> nameserver 213.25.47.167
[15:37] <Tm_T> !pastebin | urbinek
[15:37] <urbinek> i can't browse web, how can i paste code there ...
[15:37] <Freku> automated response
[15:38] <Freku> :-)
[15:38] <Pici> No.
[15:38] <urbinek> :)
[15:39] <Tm_T> urbinek: how you can irc then? ;)
[15:39] <urbinek> i can conect with IP
[15:39] <ForgeAus> why can't you browse?
[15:39] <ForgeAus> port80 blocked or something?
[15:40] <urbinek> i't looks like DNS problem
[15:40] <urbinek> urbinek@haruko:~$ ping google.pl
[15:40] <urbinek> ping: unknown host google.pl
[15:40] <urbinek> urbinek@haruko:~$ ping 66.249.93.104
[15:40] <urbinek> PING 66.249.93.104 (66.249.93.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
[15:40] <urbinek> 64 bytes from 66.249.93.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=47.4 ms
[15:42] <urbinek> http://66.249.93.104 will open google but http://google.com not ...
[15:43] <Freku> very odd
[15:44] <urbinek> i know, i think that problem is at my lan serwer side but admin says no
[15:44] <nighty_> hi
[15:45] <gx009> any links to kubuntu 8.10 alpha3 ?
[15:45] <Freku> if you have an admin  let him solve the problem  :)
[15:45] <nighty_> is there a way to install kubuntu on an external harddisk from an existing kubuntu system wich is actually booted?
[15:45] <nighty_> like gentoo etc...
[15:47] <urbinek> Freku: hehe right but i he will be at home about 00:00 ... (16.46 here  in Poland :) )
[15:48] <Freku> no way for you to solve the problem, unless you reorganise some cables
[15:48] <Freku> :)
[15:48] <urbinek> Freku: so it's hardweare side ?
[15:49] <Freku> probally not
[15:49] <Freku> i thought if you connected your pc directly to internet
[15:49] <Freku> you can try
[15:49] <urbinek> it's quite impossible :P
[15:50] <gx009> any links to kubuntu8.10 with the 2.6.26 kernel?
[15:50] <Freku> well leave the admin a note and watch some tv / sleep
[15:51] <urbinek> mhm :)
[15:51] <Freku> maybe try a livecd
[15:51] <gx009> time to test this debian 4.0 then
[15:52] <urbinek> don't have any right now ;/
[15:52] <Freku> eh  download it
[15:52] <Freku> ill try to find ip
[15:52] <urbinek> hmm
[15:52] <urbinek> wait
[15:53] <urbinek> my neiber have one :D
[15:53] <Freku> ah ok
[15:53] <Freku> better
[15:53] <urbinek> brb 15 min
[15:53] <Freku> ill be gone by then
[15:53] <Freku> goodluck
[15:53] <urbinek> mhm, thanks cu
[16:15] <slammer25> can anyone help with a bcm 4306 wireless card
[16:16] <vikku> can some one help me install the headers ... iam getting following err msg http://paste.ubuntu.com/44932/
[16:22] <stetho> Hi - I have three folders of MP3s on my machine. Each folder has the structure some_folder>artist_name>album_name>some_tracks.mp3 - is there any way to merge these three folders or is it a manual task?
[16:23] <MarcoBXBRO1> what is the best vnc program for remote usage
[16:29] <notfair> depends on ur needs
[16:31] <MarcoBXBRO1> remote on kde
[16:44] <numberi> hello
[16:45] <numberi> Whenever I create any samba shares, I can see the shares both locally and from other machines on the network, but when I try entering any shared directory I get this message:
[16:45] <numberi> The file or folder smb://machine/blah does not exist
[16:47] <numberi> now i can access folders in win XP from linux
[16:58] <v6lur> is it normal, that hardy offers to upgrade "linux-libc-dev (2.6.24-21.42 => 2.6.27-3.4)", as hardy's kernel is 2.6.24 ?
[16:59] <calle> what is the ip address to quakenet?
[17:06] <ForgeAus> use the command /dns irc.quakenet.org (assuming thats a valid server) and it should tell you calle
[17:07] <ForgeAus> for most IRC clients the /dns command resolves DNS <-> IP afaik...  I could be wrong there...
[17:13] <ForgeAus> ok well doesn't work here ...
[17:13] <ForgeAus> anyway: 195.12.59.196 is one irc.quakenet.org server
[17:13] <ForgeAus> (I found out by pinging it from cli)
[17:14] <numberi> i have questions anbout samba
[17:15] <gadoff> hello people
[17:15] <numberi> õàé
[17:16] <Aardvarks> Question: How can I boot directly into a shell without starting X?
[17:17] <numberi> load without x?
[17:17] <Aardvarks> >:|
[17:17] <Aardvarks> How do you mean?
[17:20] <ForgeAus> one way is to boot to recovery mode
[17:20] <ForgeAus> another is to simply switch virtual terminals (ie use control + alt + F keys to switch between tty's) but that will still load X if you boot normally
[17:20] <ForgeAus> you just get to switch to a CLI that isn't in X
[17:21] <ForgeAus> you can try it even now if your in X try ctrl + alt + F1 (to get back afaik it should be ctrl + alt +F7 by default...)
[17:22] <ForgeAus> however I don't know how to stop X once its started so I can't help you there... and the only way I know to not enter X with kubuntu to begin with is using recovery mode...  (or fudge up your xorg.conf but I don't suggest doing that)
[17:24] <raylu> you can stop x11 in a tty using killall Xorg
[17:25] <raylu> or killall kdm
[17:26] <numberi> Whenever I create any samba shares, I can see the shares both locally and from other machines on the network, but when I try entering any shared directory I get this message:
[17:26] <numberi> The file or folder smb://machine/blah does not exist
[17:26] <numberi> i can access folders in win XP from linux
[17:26] <jiMMiE_bO> hey folks
[17:27] <raylu> numberi, consider using openssh-server
[17:29] <jiMMiE_bO> which player do you prefer to play your dvds?!
[17:33] <derin> hi
[17:40] <BraveSpear> I have a question about preventing devices from being mounted at startup. Any one know about it?
[17:40] <GreenPeace> Hello! I did activate propiretary drivers for my wirless and it became very slow.
[17:41] <GreenPeace> I can't find propiretary drivers tool  in kmenu to disable drivers.
[17:41] <GreenPeace> What is the name of command to run this tool?
[17:42] <lakshmanan> hi, how do i install compiz fusion in kubuntu. i have kde 3.5
[17:42] <lakshmanan> hi, how do i install compiz fusion in kubuntu. i have kde 3.5
[17:43] <venik> When I type Cntrl-Alt-F1 I should get a terminal session, but I don't.  DOes this have to do with the fact taht I am running KDE4.1.1?
[17:44] <raylu> venik, no
[17:44] <venik> how do I fix it?
[17:45] <raylu> !ask | BraveSpear
[17:45] <raylu> venik, i actually have no idea :P
[17:45] <crazy6> halp!
[17:45] <jerome_> hi all
[17:46] <crazy6> My wireless card doesn't show up under KNetworkManager menu ; the only thing I changed recently is that I did a _manual_ config of the essid through the System Settings panel
[17:46] <venik> this used to work until I installed the dreaded KDE4
[17:46] <venik> and has not worked since then
[17:46] <emilsedgh> GreenPeace: System Settings->Advanced
[17:46] <venik> everything else SEEMS to work OK
[17:46] <raylu> crazy6, does ifconfig show it?
[17:46] <emilsedgh> !repeat | lakshmanan
[17:47] <crazy6> raylu: yeah, I amusing it right now (did command line iwconfig essid blah, dhclient wlan0)
[17:47] <raylu> haha, that's an interesting command
[17:48] <crazy6> well you know what I mean
[17:48] <GreenPeace> emilsedgh there is no such tool in kde4 system setting dialog, may be you know command name?
[17:48] <raylu> no, i meant !repeat, sorry
[17:48] <crazy6> iwconfig wlan0 essid blah && ifconfig wlan0 up && dhclient wlan0
[17:48] <crazy6> oh
[17:49] <jerome_> raylu: probably you will find information in your /var/log/messages file
[17:49] <jerome_> or the /var/log/boot.log
[17:50] <raylu> er...what? i didn't ask a question
[17:50] <jerome_> ho sorry raylu it's for crazy6
[17:51] <GreenPeace> So, how can I disable propiretary driver for my wifi card under kde4.1?
[17:51] <crazy6> jerome_: ? what am I looking for? my wireless does work, it's just that knetworkmanager won't show it
[17:52] <lakshmanan> hi, i want to install compiz fusion in kubuntu, i have kde 3.5 version ..please help
[17:52] <jerome_> crazy6:  ok, but if the knetworkmanager won't show it it's probably because it don't work well
[17:53] <jerome_> crazy6: so you need to undestand if the log file contain information about it
[17:53] <jerome_> no undestand sorry but see
[17:53] <jerome_> my english is not so good sorry
[17:54] <jerome_> lakshmanan: aptitude install compiz in a terminal as root
[17:55] <lakshmanan> whats the exact package name
[17:55] <jerome_> with sudo in fact  ( bad reflex with debian)
[17:55] <jerome_> patitude search compiz you will find it
[17:55] <jerome_> aptitude sorry
[17:55] <vaio__> Привет всем! Руские есть.
[17:55] <lakshmanan> ok.. then how do i configure the settings of it
[17:55] <ForgeAus> sudo apt-get install compiz
[17:55] <lakshmanan> i mean compiz effects
[17:55] <ForgeAus> I would recommend
[17:55] <venik> When I type Cntrl-Alt-F1 I should get a terminal session, but I don't.  DOes this have to do with the fact taht I am running KDE4.1.1?
[17:56] <crazy6> hrm might be related to booting up with the wireless switch off
[17:56] <ForgeAus> lakshmanan what video card do you have?
[17:56] <jerome_> you need to install emerald to
[17:56] <ForgeAus> if its NVidia or ATI you might want to make sure your drivers are installed correctly first (go to #compiz-fusion for more assistance)
[17:56] <lakshmanan> ForgeAus:i don have a video card..probably the one that intel gave me...
[17:57] <jerome_> ForgeAus:  your right
[17:57] <ForgeAus> and or compiz-kde-decorator (or whatever the kde package is)
[17:57] <jerome_> be careful with the drivers of your video card
[17:57] <ForgeAus> lakshmanan even if its integrated onboard, then you still have video display hardware
[17:57] <lakshmanan> yeah
[17:57] <ForgeAus> which is essentially a built-in video card
[17:58] <jerome_> ForgeAus:  i think that the other pakages come with the dependancies
[17:58] <lakshmanan> any prob with that
[17:58] <ForgeAus> lspci should list it, but I think you need a | grep (that I wouldn't know how to format for you but... )
[17:58] <ForgeAus> !ATI
[17:58] <ForgeAus> there should be more details there in that website...
[17:59] <ForgeAus> just check if your card is ATI or NVidia (or Matrox) if so you need to read on, if not then you can relax as long as you can turn composite on without an error compiz will work for you :)
[18:00] <jerome_> ForgeAus:  and make a small script bash in your /home/user/.kde/Autostart to start it at the beginning of your session if you don't want that every user use it
[18:00] <ForgeAus> jerome :) nice ...
[18:01] <ForgeAus> atually it would be handy to have a prompt or something to turn it off but perhaps leave it on by default?
[18:01] <jerome_> ForgeAus:  it's what i do because my girl friend don't like it so.... :)
[18:03] <ForgeAus> hehe :)
[18:03] <jerome_> ForgeAus:  for my user it sztart at the beginning of my session and i never have to stop it for my session but ...
[18:04] <jerome_> ForgeAus:  it's the only way i found to start it automatically for me and not start for my girlfriend
[18:06] <jerome_> ForgeAus:  in the script you have just to put 3 line like that
[18:06] <jerome_> #!/bin/sh
[18:06] <jerome_> compiz --replace &
[18:06] <jerome_> emerald --replace &
[18:06] <v6lur> is it normal, that hardy offers to upgrade "linux-libc-dev (2.6.24-21.42 => 2.6.27-3.4)", as hardy's kernel is 2.6.24 ?
[18:06] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[18:06] <jerome_> hi [Relic]
[18:06] <Darkrift2> isnt there a gui drive mapping software for linux that shows you which folders are the largest etc?
[18:07] <ForgeAus> yes
[18:07] <v6lur> Darkrift2: in konqueror: view -> mode -> file size view (or similar)
[18:07] <BraveSpear> How do I prevent any drives (other than the cd rom) from being mounted when booting a livecd
[18:07] <ForgeAus> kdiskfree? I think...
[18:07] <Darkrift2> that sounds like it
[18:07] <jerome_> Darkrift2: i don't now but a small script can do that
[18:07] <ForgeAus> theres another one or two too that give you graphical views of disk usage I can't remember any of them offhand tho
[18:08] <Darkrift2> its a one time use, so ill try the first one
[18:08] <jerome_> BraveSpear:  you can use the mount command
[18:09] <ForgeAus> jerome he wasn't to prevent
[18:09] <jerome_> ho sorry
[18:09] <ForgeAus> short answer BraveSpear is you can't
[18:10] <ForgeAus> since its a LiveCD you can't change the data on it, all you can do is unmount them after boot
[18:10] <ForgeAus> or remaster the LiveCD
[18:10] <jerome_> exactly ForgeAus
[18:11] <jerome_> hummm what is the french channel?
[18:12] <ForgeAus> come to think of it DVD was a silly acronym, I often put non-video data on a DVD :) hehe
[18:12] <jerome_> parceque bon en anglais j'essaie mais je dois pouvoir aider davantage en français
[18:12] <Sixzero_> DVD was supposed to stand for Digital Versatile Disc.
[18:13] <ForgeAus> ahh ok well I've only seen it called Digital Video Disk
[18:13] <Darkrift2> i had heard that but guess it never went through
[18:13] <ForgeAus> but the classic one that made me laugh the hardest was whne I heard about DDR :)
[18:13] <ForgeAus> Double Data-Rate :)...
[18:13] <Sixzero_> Digital Video Disc just seems easier to identify it by considering the format's main use.
[18:14] <ForgeAus> I asked them if they were serious when they first told me... nowerdays it sounds kinda normal but back then it was absurd!
[18:14] <[Relic]> finally some work on getting coretemps for 45nms working, just no clue on how to work this patch to test it  :(
[18:17] <[Relic]> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/235119   <-  Am I just recompiling the kernel for this one to test it?
[18:17] <jerome_> ForgeAus:  sorry but i don't undestand what you want to say
[18:20] <mixed1234> hello gurus, how do I find out where my USB drive was mounted to???
[18:20] <jerome_> nobody can give me the channel for french?
[18:20] <Pici> !fr | jerome_
[18:20] <mixed1234> !french
[18:20] <jerome_> think ubottu
[18:21] <jerome_> mixed1234:  yes you to?
[18:21] <mixed1234> nope
[18:21] <mixed1234> !fr
 I have remastered a livecd, but need to prevent any devices from being mounted during bootup and afterwards. Any idea how to do that?
[18:40] <amerigo> ! dual-boot
[18:47] <JackWinter> i have a problem with kded "racing" and consuming much cpu.  any ideas ?
[18:47] <BraveSpear> I have remastered a livecd, but need to prevent any devices from being mounted during bootup and afterwards. Any idea how to do that?
[18:48] <ubuntu_> hi all
[18:48] <JackWinter> am on hardy, if i sighup the process the media manager no longer works
[18:50] <ubuntu_> who could tell me whats better kubuntu or ubuntu?
[18:50] <JackWinter> i have read of a similar bug, but that included attaching usb media, all usb media is turned off and still have the problem
[18:51] <jerome_> ubuntu it's just the grapghic environement change ubuntu is on gnome and kde is on KDE
[18:52] <deamoon> hmm and whats the diferents betwen kde and gnome
[18:52] <deamoon> sry forthese question but im new on this
[18:53] <deamoon> :::)
[18:54] <jerome_> deamoon:  it's not the same, somone prefer KDE it's look like near windows, gnome is more lite but you can try
[18:55] <deamoon> ok i c
[18:55] <jerome_> deamoon: but you can on a ubuntu installing kde a start the graphical environnement you want at the beginning of the session
[18:55] <deamoon> ok
[18:55] <deamoon> newer saw that
[18:57] <deamoon> guys help me with partitions greation
[18:57] <deamoon> plz
[18:57] <jerome_> deamoon: and uninstall the graphical environnment you don't use after. you must undestand that the base of the system is the same it's just the windows manager is différent
[18:58] <jerome_> and you system can work without graphical environnment like a serveur with only console
[18:59] <deamoon> hmmm
[18:59] <jerome_> deamoon:  explain what you want
[18:59] <deamoon> i whant install this kubuntu
[18:59] <deamoon> but i need have windows on disk c
[18:59] <deamoon> disk d is free
[18:59] <deamoon> 168593 free space
[18:59] <deamoon> on d
[19:00] <deamoon> hdd partition
[19:00] <jerome_> so for partition you need to select the d but is name is not like that  is hdd
[19:00] <jerome_> yes
[19:00] <jerome_> and you need 2 partition on minimal
[19:00] <jerome_> one for the /
[19:00] <jerome_> and one for the swap
[19:01] <jerome_> fior the size of the swap let the default value
[19:01] <deamoon> 168593 from this space how much i should give to it
[19:01] <deamoon> ?
[19:01] <jerome_> how size do you want to offer to your kubuntu?
[19:02] <deamoon> 10gb enought
[19:02] <deamoon> ?
[19:02] <deamoon> or more?
[19:02] <definitely> how to save session config which is loaded at the moment ?
[19:02] <jerome_> the system probably use 1 GB so the other is for your datas
[19:03] <wernerm> Anyone using KDE4?
[19:03] <deamoon> so it should be ok
[19:03] <deamoon> 10gb
[19:03] <jerome_> ok and probabbly 1 GB for the swap
[19:03] <kasper_> hello
[19:03] <definitely> wernerm: me
[19:03] <jerome_> kasper_:  hi
[19:04] <jerome_> deamoon:  or 9 and 1 as you want
[19:04] <deamoon> what u mean 9or 1
[19:04] <deamoon> ?
[19:05] <jerome_> 9 for the / and 1 for the swap
[19:05] <deamoon> i did 15 on /
[19:05] <wernerm> definately: I have been using KDE3 for last couple of years (I only use linux) but I can't get used to KDE4 - it's foreign and a bit unstable still  (though fast) but I can't figure out how to do stuff (like basic stuff) to customize it Thus, my question:  Is there a *good* online guide to KDE4 written especially for KDE3 users??
[19:05] <jerome_> or 10 for the / and 1 for the swap but in ths way it's 11 for linux
[19:05] <deamoon> and 1 swap
[19:05] <jerome_> deamoon:  good
[19:06] <definitely> wernerm: I dont think there is any full guide, i didint used guide, in btw kde 4.1.1 is more stable :)
[19:07] <amerigo> ! wubi
[19:07] <wernerm> definitely: I'll use any version that Hardy can provide
[19:08] <wernerm> Why would you want to run *nix apps on Windows?
[19:08] <amerigo> it's refered to me
[19:08] <amerigo> ??
[19:08] <wernerm> (I'm just curious, not against the whole idea or anything, I think it's wonderful that it *can* be done)
[19:09] <rjune_> because you like *nix apps more then the win32 counterparts?
[19:10] <wernerm> Yeah, but then why use windows? Because some crucial win32 apps are not ever being ported to *nix? (lol)
[19:10] <amerigo> #wubi
[19:10] <wernerm> Interesting
[19:24] <wernerm> Damn, wubi is actually quite cool, just been through the site. If I had Windows, I would use it.
[19:25] <ForgeAus> really?
[19:25] <wernerm> Yeah, well I did not know about it
[19:25] <ForgeAus> whats it do exactly? I thought it just installed ubuntu
[19:25] <Daniel_Minifig> Anyone familiar with VLC?
[19:26] <wernerm> I was taken aback by finding out that such technology (apps) exists. Very interesting
[19:26] <ForgeAus> personally I like AndLinux for an embedded Linux if not Vmware, etc...
[19:26] <Daniel_Minifig> When you close Amarok, it goes by the clock.  Any way to do that with VLC?
[19:26] <frybye> Daniel_Minifig: use vlc a bit but no expert...
[19:26] <ForgeAus> Daniel I use it but I aren't familiar with its intricacies possibly
[19:27] <wernerm> Well, the fact that it *just installs Ubuntu* on freakin' Win32 is quite cool, I must say. I thought it installed *nix apps on windows, almost kinda like another cygwin type of clone
[19:27] <ForgeAus> uh its Amarok that I'm even less familiar with! rofl
[19:27] <Daniel_Minifig> Kaffeine does that but shuts off the music.
[19:27] <ForgeAus> no wernerm I think you need to exit windows to run them
[19:27] <ForgeAus> essentially its a dualboot right?
[19:28] <wernerm> Daniel_Minifig: You mean you want to minimize VLS to the system tray?
[19:28] <ForgeAus> not sure what it does in the way of partitioning
[19:28] <frybye> wernerm: VLC - or?
[19:28] <Daniel_Minifig> Yeah and have it of the taskbar.
[19:28] <ForgeAus> or if it has some kinda wrapper to host ubuntu on ntfs
[19:29] <Daniel_Minifig> Ihave it on constantly playing a radio station.
[19:29] <wernerm> ForgeAus: Oh, ok - Still kewl that you don't need to partition your drive. Wonder how the speed of it *really* is when installed that way?
[19:29] <ForgeAus> you can put any app in the taskbar if you want...
[19:29] <wernerm> Daniel_Minifig: Can realplayer not do such a thing?
[19:29] <ForgeAus> wernerm ok no partitioning? so how do they mount with grub4dos?
[19:29] <ForgeAus> erm boot not mount...
[19:30] <Daniel_Minifig> When you minimize it goes to the taskbar.  I am trying to getit to stay on but show by the clock.
[19:30] <ForgeAus> that would make my kubuntu partition redundant lol
[19:30] <ForgeAus> then again so does andlinux I guess
[19:30] <wernerm> ForgeAus: http://wubi-installer.org/
[19:31] <wernerm> ForgeAus: I don't have Win32, so I just find it facinating that it can be done. Since I only use Linux, I don't really need to make anything else run anywhere :D
[19:31] <ForgeAus> that site doesn't answer any of my questions lol
[19:33] <ForgeAus> ahh ok wubi hosts ubuntu as a single file on ntfs
[19:33] <ForgeAus> (or fat32 presumably but you'd probably have size issues that way)
[19:34] <wernerm> Yeah that seems to be the worst file system
[19:34] <ForgeAus> so essentially its AndLinux... only boots natively to it presumably by adding a boot.ini entry to something like grub4dos that mounts it
[19:35] <ForgeAus> actually I don't mind fat32 for the most part, the only 2 things I likea bout ntfs is the size handling isn't limited to 4gig files (or whatever) and that it has built in compression :)...
[19:36] <fdoving> so, is intrepid usable?
[19:36] <ForgeAus> I think its still in alpha unless tahts changed over the last day or three
[19:37] <scarygary> Evening..
[19:37] <scarygary> I just upgraded to kde 4.1.1 and all i get when i log on is a terminal.
[19:37] <scarygary> Uhm.. Wuut?
[19:38] <scarygary> What did i do wrong?
[19:39] <scarygary> 4.1 worked fine before.
[19:39] <fdoving> did you select the correct session from the kdm logon screen?
[19:39] <scarygary> You mean what window manager to use?
[19:41] <fdoving> scarygary: yes.
[19:41] <fdoving> bbl.
[19:42] <scarygary> All i have is Default(Previous) and Failsafe
[19:42] <scarygary> No KDE or KDE4
[19:43] <katcita> hey, I've just upgraded to latest intrepid and I get 'no greeter plugin found' when kdm starts and then it just freezes, any idea how to fix that?
[19:45] <zanberdo> I'm running kubuntu 8.04.1. I have the NVidia GeForce 7600 card installed.  I have been running with the restricted drivers but wanted to try the latest driver from nvidia.  I installed 173 but it failed to load.  After many attempts to get it working I found it might be better to restore my previous drivers.  I ran the uninstall for the new nvidia driver and reinstalled nvidia-glx-new.  However my display is still broken.  How can I
[19:45] <zanberdo> remove/reinstall the packed drivers and get the kernal modules loaded?
[19:48] <kottlett> hi! for hardy - what do I need to the sources.list for the development repository?
[19:52] <SeanTater> How do I get Network Manager to forget my manual configuration (and use automatic again)?
[19:58] <BraveSpear> I have remastered a livecd, but need to prevent any devices from being mounted during bootup and afterwards. Any idea how to do that?
[20:00] <acoc> anyone here have a ubuntu-kubuntu duel boot
[20:01] <ForgeAus> you just need to specify the root being on hda2 or sdb3 or wherever the partition is
[20:02] <ForgeAus> (and hd0,3 vs hd1,2)
[20:02] <ForgeAus> its all modifyable in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:03] <ForgeAus> but I find an ubuntu/kubuntu dualboot unnecessary since you can install ubunut-desktop + kubuntu-dekstop without dualbooting
[20:03] <acoc> I'm specifically interested in calling the linux-images different names
[20:03] <ForgeAus> you simply chose from the kdm (or gdm) menu which desktop you wish to boot into....
[20:03] <acoc> I'm actually using OzOs and Ubuntu
[20:04] <acoc> OzOs is a derivation of kubuntu
[20:04] <ForgeAus> if you wanted different ones I'd go for something more radical like suse & ubuntu or Mandriva & Kubuntu
[20:04] <kottlett> SeanTater: try using knetworkmanager, manual config -> configure device -> (X) Automatic
[20:04] <ForgeAus> using enlightenment yes?
[20:05] <acoc> yep OzOs uses enlightenment
[20:05] <ForgeAus> I'm guessing all it is is ubuntu + OzOs's own custom repository
[20:06] <acoc> exactly
[20:06] <acoc> it's surprisingly stable
[20:06] <ForgeAus> the base ubuntu enlightenment packages for hardy I think are still e16 not so good, so the Oz.Os ones are probably newer
[20:06] <ForgeAus> but other than that not much different I'm guessing
[20:07] <acoc> the enlightenment packages are cvs based, so they allow the user to update the windows manager from cvs whenever the'd like
[20:08] <SeanTater> kottlett:  Thanks
[20:08] <acoc> the repos also have themes and modules specific to ozos
[20:09] <acoc> but back to the problem, as of now I just renamed the images from ubuntu and ozos to distro specific names and edited the menu.lst to be able to duel boot
[20:09] <acoc> but as I upgrade it will just overwrite these changes
[20:10] <acoc> I was hoping there would be a way to set the name on installation within apt
[20:12] <BraveSpear> Does anyone know what script creates fstab when the livecd is booting?
[20:14] <samm> can someone help with a bcm 4306 wireless card
[20:14] <samm> its the only thing i cant seem to get working
[20:17] <ForgeAus> argh not again why does apt-url want to bring along half of gnome with it?
[20:21] <dired> Can i manually enter the modes my LCD Laptop Screen should run at? The frequency is wrong
[20:23] <acoc> ForgeAus, I think I found what I was looking for, /etc/kernel-pkg.conf has options that affect how the kernel name is created
[20:26] <BraveSpear> !fstab
[20:33] <Robbinwilliam> hey new guy in Kubuntu...
[20:33] <Robbinwilliam> Hi to all of u there...
[20:34] <dired> hi
[20:35] <dired> can you help me? I would like to enter the modes for my LCD manually, I am fine with the standard driver
[20:35] <Robbinwilliam> hi dired..
[20:35] <dired> it's an ati xpress 1250 card and I don't get the driver working properly
[20:37] <Robbinwilliam> I'm also here with some questions....
[20:37] <Robbinwilliam> can anybody help me with brightness issue in HP?
[20:38] <Robbinwilliam> lol :D
[20:50] <GreenPeace> Hello! How can I find drivers utility in kde4? What is the name it have? I did install driver with it and now want to unistall but can't find that utility.
[20:51] <JackWinter> what would be the appropriate place to discuss a kubuntu/kde problem with kde --new-startup and the process racing ?
[20:51] <JackWinter> sorry kded --new-startup
[20:52] <GreenPeace> Hey anyone on the chanal?
[20:53] <giovanni_h> yes
[20:55] <dwidmann> JackWinter: Well, you probably need to file a bug on launchpad and/or bugs.kde.org ... apart from that you might be able to borrow someone knowledgable in #kubuntu-devel
[20:59] <JackWinter> thanks dwidmann, i haven't found any relevant info on the kubuntu forums
[20:59] <michael__> does anyone know of a program that will let me stitch together two or more pdf pages into one document?
[21:01] <definitely> How to save session configs
[21:01] <definitely>  ?
[21:08] <snooops> Hi
[21:09] <snooops> i got a little problem i relogged my notebook with the new Kubuntu and i didnt got my panel ...
[21:09] <snooops> how can i get my panel back?
[21:09] <jussi01> snooops: with kde4?
[21:09] <snooops> jussi01 yes
[21:10] <jussi01> snooops: jump over to #kubuntu-kde4 and we can see what we can do
[21:10] <jussi01> :)
[21:12] <snooops> jussi01 thx ^^
[21:19] <estan> hum. i don't get it, i have both kopete and kopete-kde4 installed, and in krunner i see both kopete for kde3 and for kde4.. but no matter what i choose only the one for kde4 is launched.
[21:21] <estan> hm.. launching /usr/bin/kopete worked for some reason.. wonder how come /usr/lib/kde4/bin is first in the path.
[21:22] <KRF> because you're in kde4? $PATH is prefixed with your current $KDEDIR
[21:23] <KRF> $KDEDIR/bin
[21:23] <KRF> that is /usr/lib/kde4/bin
[21:24] <estan> KRF: hm. okay. then it was just krunner that wasn't smart enough..
[21:25] <estan> it gave me the choice of launching Kopete from KDE3, but it didn't work.
[21:29] <verduz> I'm in trouble with Kubuntu's partition table. I tried to install kubunto with automatic partitioning but something went wrong. Now I'm trying an other installation but the automatic partition doesn't work...
[21:30] <verduz> I'm trying to install kubuntu in the same partitions created with the previous installation, but I don't know how to do it manually.
[21:35] <Robbinwilliam> hi this is Robbin...
[21:35] <Robbinwilliam> u need help on manual installation?
[21:36] <verduz> Hy robbin, i desperately need help on manual installation
[21:36] <Robbinwilliam> so tell me about ur hd and how do u want to install in it?
[21:37] <verduz> Whell i wanted a dual boot windows/kubuntu
[21:37] <verduz> During the first installation I decided to use 12 GB for Kubuntu and 65 GB for windows
[21:37] <Robbinwilliam> ok thats kl...
[21:38] <verduz> Something went wrong. Lilo tries to boot Kubuntu but it doesn't start
[21:38] <Robbinwilliam> so while doing man..partitioning so u should recognize...it
[21:38] <Robbinwilliam> probably by its size...
[21:38] <Robbinwilliam> or u can use free space...
[21:39] <verduz> Now I am in manual partitioning
[21:39] <verduz> I have only hda
[21:39] <verduz> hda1 fat32 65 GB (i think it's windows)
[21:39] <Robbinwilliam> no other partition all?
[21:39] <verduz> hda5 ext3 12 GB
[21:39] <verduz> hda6 swap 608 MB
[21:40] <verduz> what's next?
[21:40] <Robbinwilliam> ok then whats the matter go ahead...
[21:40] <verduz> In manual installation, i have those partition listed and I don't know how to go ahead
[21:40] <Robbinwilliam> u've chosen them as their proper type thats..fine,,,
[21:41] <Robbinwilliam> is hda5 chosen as root?? thats "/"
[21:41] <verduz> I don't want to dele my Windows partition. I only want to install Kubunto in the previous created partition
[21:41] <verduz> It' says /dev/hda6
[21:42] <Robbinwilliam> ur confusing me..
[21:42] <verduz> and /dev/hda5
[21:42] <verduz> i'm sory
[21:42] <verduz> sorry
[21:42] <BraveSpear> I have a livecd I have mastered and need to have kmix load into the systray at boot up.  I have created a soundmixer.desktop and placed it in /etc/skel/.kde/Autostart -- the command it execs is "ksystraycmd --hidden kmix" but it does not start hidden to the systray as it is supposed to. If I manually run the command after it boots it loads minimized.
[21:44] <gerard_> o et puis merde
[21:47] <BraveSpear> Nobody has a clue?
[21:53] <v6lur> is it normal, that hardy offers to upgrade "linux-libc-dev (2.6.24-21.42 => 2.6.27-3.4)", as hardy's kernel is 2.6.24 ?
[22:19] <Robbinwilliam> hey wanna ask someone about mic volume issure?
[22:19] <Robbinwilliam> can anybody help?
[22:20] <Agent_bob> what is this line of code trying to do in this shell script "var=$(/lib/udev/vol_id -t $1)" ???
[22:24] <rickest> it's running 'vol_id -t <arg>' and putting the results of that command into $var
[22:25] <Agent_bob> i know that and the result is "error open volume"
[22:25] <Agent_bob> i mean what is it trying to do?    i.e.  what kind of output is it looking for ?
[22:26] <Robbinwilliam> huh...
[22:26] <rickest> probe filesystem type and read label and uuid
[22:26] <Robbinwilliam> hey help me to adjust mic volume..
[22:26] <Robbinwilliam> where can I adjust it?
[22:27] <Agent_bob> Robbinwilliam slider 'igain'  'mic'  and  'input'   in kmix  or alsamixer
[22:27] <rickest> so it's trying to determine if the file system of arg 1 (i.e., /dev/sda1) is 'ext3', 'reiserfs', etc
[22:27] <Agent_bob> rickest ok.   does it work on your system with you root fs as $1 ?
[22:28] <favro> I ran   /lib/udev/vol_id -t   in a terminal and it needs a filesystem type as an arg
[22:28] <rickest> Agent_bob: I don't know how $1 gets derefed
[22:29] <rickest> sudo vol_id -t /dev/sdqa1
[22:29] <rickest> er, /dev/sda1
[22:29] <neeraj> hi
[22:29] <nicola> quale programma riesce a convertire i file mpe wev
[22:30] <Agent_bob> hda: error open volume
[22:30] <nicola> volevo dire mp3
[22:30] <rickest> !br
[22:30] <Agent_bob> doesn't seem to work on my system.
[22:30] <Agent_bob> tty24 [root@dell.~] /lib/udev/vol_id -t hda
[22:30] <Agent_bob> hda: error open volume
[22:31] <Agent_bob>  /dev/hda: error open volume
[22:31] <jiMMiE_bO> silly question but, I want to change my desktop backroundpic and downloaded and "installed" a few, but now I don't know where I can find em?! so wazzup!? Ò.ó
[22:39] <favro> sudo /lib/udev/vol_id --export -t /dev/hda6 got a result here Agent_bob
[22:39] <Agent_bob> k testing
[22:40] <Agent_bob> k it does seem to work with export  thanks.  tty24 [root@dell.~] /lib/udev/vol_id --export -t /dev/hda
[22:40] <Agent_bob> ext2
[22:41] <favro> :)
[22:41] <Sag_er> Is this the right place to ask for help about installation problems?
[22:42] <Agent_bob> ya
[22:42] <BlackDragonBE> I would think so
[22:43] <BlackDragonBE> So what's the problem Sag_er?
[22:44] <Sag_er> it throw me into a shell when I try booting through live cd, after it identifies the hard drive and two dvd drives.
[22:45] <Agent_bob> Sag_er two dvd drives... try booting it in the other drive ?
[22:48] <Sag_er> the initial menu (kubuntu ... ) loads, I can choose to "start or install Kubuntu": should I still try to do it through the other DVD drive?
[22:48] <Agent_bob> yes
[22:48] <BlackDragonBE> yeah, put the LiveCD in the other drive and see what it does
[22:49] <Sag_er> OK - trying... thanks for now
[22:49] <Sag_er> (will be back soon if it does not work :)
[22:51] <Wastet[bRe]> how to set user to be root?
[22:51] <Agent_bob> !root
[22:51] <Agent_bob> !kdesu
[22:55] <BlackDragonBE> just type 'sudo <your_app>' in a terminal and type your password, don't do this for just any app though, or you'll be almost as vulnerable as a windows user
[22:56] <Agent_bob> BlackDragonBE are you going to fix it when they run   sudo konqueror   and start moving files in and out of $HOME ?
[22:56] <Agent_bob> and changing setting o.O ?
[22:57] <BlackDragonBE> I said 'not just for any app', that includes konqueror
[22:57] <Agent_bob>  ^  ubottu
[22:58] <Wastet[bRe]> i uses clamav , [testing] and [uses kde frontend] and i click update virus database, and says no root privilegues
[22:59] <BlackDragonBE> so you mean klamav?
[22:59] <Wastet[bRe]> yup
[22:59] <Wastet[bRe]> klamav
[23:00] <Agent_bob> heh yeah clamav is or at least has been really screwed up.  it won't run for root (that's a feature) and yet needs root perms on some things... (that's an oxymoron)
[23:00] <ChainedGX2> i installed plasmoid-lancelot but i don't see it in add widgets. any ideas?
[23:01] <Agent_bob> ChainedGX2 i have an idea that the kde4 specific channel would be a better place to ask that
[23:01] <Agent_bob> !kde4
[23:02] <ChainedGX2> thanks
[23:03] <BlackDragonBE> klamav needs root privileges to access the dazuko device
[23:03] <BlackDragonBE> not really safe if you ask me
[23:09] <Sag_er> OK, I'm back...
[23:09] <Sag_er> the second DVD does not work, so I disconnected it
[23:09] <Sag_er> still, gets stuck in the BusyBox Shell
[23:10] <Sag_er> the last thing it shows before throwing me into it is:
[23:10] <ubuntu_> hallo, ich b in gerade dabei kubuntu zu installieren, leider geht es seit zwei std. nicht mehr weiter. er häng bei 99% "instalationsprotokolle werden kopiert" kann mir mal einer weiterhelfen, danke!
[23:11] <Sag_er> "/build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c:"
[23:12] <Sag_er> "/build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c: USB HID core driver"
[23:12] <Agent_bob> !de | ubuntu_
[23:12] <ubuntu_> thx
[23:13] <Agent_bob> Sag_er that's not a usb dvd drive is it ?
[23:13] <Sag_er> It's an internal dvd drive...
[23:14] <Wastet[bRe]> can i log in as root instead of my created login?
[23:14] <Wastet[bRe]> or can i put my login with root privilegues
[23:14] <Sag_er> I tried adding "nousbstorage" to the boot options, still get the same thing
[23:15] <Agent_bob> Sag_er anyway we can talk while you are in the busybox shell ?   have more than one computer ?
[23:15] <ahmeddrira> salut
[23:15] <Sag_er> yeah
[23:15] <Wastet[bRe]> on user manager i set primary group root
[23:15] <Agent_bob> !sudo | Wastet[bRe]
[23:15] <Sag_er> Agent_bob: yes
[23:16] <Agent_bob> Sag_er ok in the busybox shell do this  ls /dev/scd*
[23:16] <ahmeddrira> svp  c  est  quoi la meilleure machine virtuelle  que  je  peut  installer sur  mon Kubuntu
[23:16] <ign0ramus> !fr | ahmeddrira
[23:16] <Sag_er> No such file or directory
[23:17] <ign0ramus> ahmeddrira: also, Virtualbox
[23:17] <ahmeddrira> so  i am  sory what  is  the  best  virtuel machin
[23:17] <Agent_bob> Sag_er ok.  mknod /dev/scd0 b 11 0
[23:17] <ign0ramus> !virtualbox
[23:17] <ahmeddrira>   i  try  it  but  it  dont  detect  usb
[23:18] <Sag_er> done
[23:18] <ign0ramus> ahmeddrira: what is your guest machine (windows xp?)
[23:18] <Agent_bob> Sag_er type in "exit" and see if it continues to load or loops back to the busybox prompt
[23:18] <Sag_er> back to busy box after:
[23:19] <ahmeddrira> yes  i  try  windows  xp
[23:19] <Nyad> how do I change my root pwd? I tried sudo passwd  but it hasn't changed a thing, my pwd is still the same
[23:20] <Nyad> as my user pwd
[23:20] <Sag_er> unable to grab IRQ6 for the floppy drive, tried mounting /sys and /proc and /root/dev, but failed on all
[23:20] <ign0ramus> ahmeddrira: PUEL (Personal Use & Evaluation License) Version - "Without this, your USB devices can't be used in the guest OS and you cannot use Windows Remote Desktop as a server in the guest OS."
[23:21] <Agent_bob> Sag_er ok.   modprobe scsi-mod ;modprobe cdrom
[23:21] <Sag_er> "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" may have been the important line
[23:21] <MrKennie> Nyad: why do you need to change your root password?
[23:21] <Sag_er> done
[23:21] <Sag_er> exit again?
[23:22] <Nyad> MrKennie:  I set a bad one initially
[23:22] <Agent_bob> Sag_er  mount /dev/scd0 /root ;exit
[23:22] <ahmeddrira> ok  thanks  i  wil  try other
[23:22] <ign0ramus> ahmeddrira: get the .deb file from Sun
[23:23] <MrKennie> Nyad: it's better to use sudo rather than change the root password.
[23:23] <Agent_bob> Sag_er ?
[23:23] <Sag_er> mount: cannot read /etc/fstab: No such file or directory
[23:23] <Sag_er> (before I tried "exit")
[23:23] <Agent_bob> ok.   and exit just loops ?
[23:23] <Sag_er> yeah
[23:23] <ign0ramus> ahmeddrira: http://www.sun.com/software/products/virtualbox/index.jsp
[23:23] <ahmeddrira> yes
[23:23] <Sag_er> "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init"
[23:23] <Nyad> MrKennie: but you need the root pwd to use sudo
[23:24] <MrKennie> Nyad: no, it's asking you for your password
[23:24] <MrKennie> Nyad: that's how it works
[23:24] <ign0ramus> ahmeddrira: if you get the "virutalbox-ose" package through APT, you won't be able to use usb function
[23:24] <Agent_bob> Sag_er i can tell you what the issue is, but i don't think i can solve it.   you need to modprobe a module for your hardware.... but i have no way of knowing which.
[23:24] <MrKennie> Nyad: and unless you add other users to the admin group they can't use sudo
[23:25] <Sag_er> what is modprobe?
[23:25] <Nyad> can't they use sudo and then type the root pwd
[23:25] <Nyad> ?
[23:25] <MrKennie> Nyad: no, unless they manage to guess roots scrambled password
[23:25] <ahmeddrira> ok  thanks  ign0ramus
[23:25] <Agent_bob> Sag_er modprobe is a command that inserts module into the kernel    (module = small peace of code that add support for a specific peace of hardware)
[23:25] <ign0ramus> np ahmeddrira
[23:25] <MrKennie> !sudo | Nyad
[23:26] <Sag_er> how do I figure out which part of the hardware is problematic?
[23:26] <ign0ramus> root is disabled by default in (k)ubuntu
[23:26] <ign0ramus> superuser != root
[23:28] <Nyad> oh, that's what had me confused
[23:28] <Agent_bob> Sag_er you could ask in #ubuntu maybe someone in there is better versed in this sort of thing.     you can check the wiki/bug reports    to see if it's a known issue with that install cd   you can also try the "alternate install cd" which is a textmode (ncurses menu driver) installer and is more flexable.
[23:28] <Agent_bob> superuser == root   by default
[23:28] <Sag_er> Thanks, Agent_bob!
[23:29] <MrKennie> sudo id -u and see what you get :P
[23:29] <Agent_bob> root login is disabled    the account is locked so that you can't login as root.     but the superuser account is still there.
[23:30] <MrKennie> Agent_bob: didn't it used to be a scrambled password or something? unless I'm thinking of gentoo but anyway.
[23:30] <Agent_bob> MrKennie sudo -i id -u    or   sudo us - -- id -u      maybe.
[23:30] <ign0ramus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:30] <Agent_bob> MrKennie no it's a locked password
[23:30] <MrKennie> Agent_bob: ah, k
[23:30] <MrKennie> hense the ! I guess
[23:30] <Agent_bob> yep
[23:31] <Agent_bob> x set and see shadow     ! locked     blahblahblah set and clear text md5
[23:32] <Agent_bob> * set and blank
[23:32] <Agent_bob> iirc   ^
[23:32] <MrKennie> using Linux for 8 years and still learning new stuff.
[23:32] <Agent_bob> me too
[23:33] <Agent_bob> s/8/9/
[23:33] <MrKennie> =)
[23:40] <ian__> I'm running ubuntu, and I loaded kubuntu-desktop-kde4, and it was horribly horribly broken
[23:40] <ian__> the package kde4 wasn't installed, is this a dependancy issue in the repository, or do I need to calm down and wait for it to stabilize?
[23:41] <MrKennie> ian__: hardy?
[23:41] <ian__> yep, hardy
[23:42] <MrKennie> ian__: do you get any errors?
[23:42] <MrKennie> ian__: rather, any errors during installation?
[23:42] <ian__> well, no, but I have issues like the panel vanishes, it starts loading multiple instances of things I have in my gnome session startup, etc
[23:42] <master_> There's no way to undelete a file I just deleted using the rm command, is there?
[23:42] <ian__> no, install was clean, used apt
[23:43] <MrKennie> ian__: ok
[23:43] <MrKennie> master_: not as such
[23:44] <ian__> but theoretically kubuntu-desktop-kde4 should make a complete, default kde desktop, correct?
[23:44] <Agent_bob> master_ if you emediately alt+sysRQ+u    then yes there might be.
[23:44] <MrKennie> ian__: are you using the ppa repository?
[23:44] <master_> What's sysRQ ?
[23:44] <ian__> I have a ppa.launchpad.net repo, but I believe thats only for a specific application
[23:45] <Agent_bob> master_  often shared with print_screen  if it's not highly valuable  i doubt it's worth it tho.
[23:45] <Agent_bob> !undelete
[23:45] <MrKennie> ian__: is it kde 4.0.x ?
[23:46] <ian__> did I somehow mix newer kde4 bits into my system by accident?
[23:46] <master_> Agent_bob: sysRQ is a key that only exists on mainframes?
[23:46] <ian__> mrkennie: its deb version is 1.75 :-/, how can I be sure about the actual version?
[23:46] <MrKennie> ian__: any kde help just go to help -> about kde
[23:47] <ian__> I can't load my kde desktop at all, its completely unusable
[23:47] <MrKennie> ian__: you should be able to run konsole
[23:48] <master_> I do have a sysRQ key.. wow.. It's FN+end
[23:50] <master_> Agent_bob: Well.. It appears that key combination causes kde to take a screen snapshot.. I my work is lost.
[23:51] <master_> Agent_bob: Saved!!  The file deleted was AAL.lyx but its contents are still in AAL.lyx~
[23:51] <MrKennie> that was lucky :)
[23:52] <MrKennie> master_: at least from now on you'll be more careful using rm :)
[23:53] <Agent_bob> only rm what you want to destroy  ;)
[23:54] <katcita> the install of intrepid went fine but it doesn't mount /home and when I try to mount /home it says /dev/sda3 already mounted or /home busy, yet 'mount' doesnt list /home as mounted
[23:54] <ian__> ok, sorry for the lag
[23:54] <ian__> konsole: help->about says 3.5.9, which I'm guessing is part of the problem
[23:55] <geek> Agent_bob: lol. true. only rm -rf when you bloody know what you're doing
[23:55] <geek> ian__: i think 3.5.10 is in backport
[23:55] <ian__> so I've somehow mixed two versions, possibly from different repositories and I should probably leave you all alone until I sort that out? does that sound accurate?
[23:55] <geek> s
[23:55] <Agent_bob> katcita mount lists the content of /etc/mtab   check what's in   /proc/mounts   to see what is really mounted.
[23:55] <master_> MrKennie: Or.. buy more drives and use a filesystem that stores diffs..
[23:56] <MrKennie> hah, yea
[23:56] <master_> I diffable filesystem makes a lot of sense for office-type documents..
[23:56] <Agent_bob> geek -f is default in debian and it's dirivatives
[23:56] <master_> They are never all that big, anyway
[23:57] <Agent_bob> katcita also   df -h   is handy for disks
[23:57] <katcita> Agent_bob: neither show it as mounted
[23:58] <master_> now, somewhere out of the blue.. my entire home directly became a read-only filesystem..  wtf?!
[23:58] <master_> touch: cannot touch `it': Read-only file system
[23:58] <MrKennie> master_: alt+sysrq+u will do that
[23:58] <master_> MrKennie: ah.. how can I undo it?
[23:59] <Agent_bob> katcita ok.  if you'll pastebin the output of this command i'll see what we can do.  cat /etc/fstab /proc/partitions ;sudo fdisk -l
[23:59] <Agent_bob> !pastebin | katcita
[23:59] <MrKennie> not sure, I use it in vary rare occasions
[23:59] <MrKennie> when nvidia locks up or something