[01:07] <mwhudson> LaserJock: so it seems broken to have two projects for matplotlib on launchpad
[01:07] <mwhudson> i guess one should be deactivated
[01:07] <LaserJock> mwhudson: well, if you want to import the code that actually goes into the released tarball I think  python2.4-matplotlib has the right branch
[01:07] <mwhudson> python2.4-matplotlib seems a little older and a little more active
[01:07] <mwhudson> but it has a silly name
[01:07] <LaserJock> yeah
[01:08] <LaserJock> can you move that branch to matplotlib?
[01:08] <LaserJock> it looks like somebody named the project after the package, not the actual project name
[01:08] <LaserJock> or even the source package name, as that's matplotlib too
[01:08] <mwhudson> another option would be to kill off the current matplotlib project and rename the python2.4-matplotlib to something more sensible
[01:10] <LaserJock> can you rename python2.4-matplotlib to matplotlib after killing the current one?
[01:10] <mwhudson> i can't, but an admin can
[01:10] <LaserJock> ok, I just wondered if there was some issue with renaming to something that had previously existed
[01:11] <mwhudson> well, i guess the admin can rename matplotlib to matplotlib-dead or something
[01:11] <mwhudson> LaserJock: can you ask a question for this?
[01:11] <LaserJock> well, I'd rather not have confusing cruft if we can help it
[01:12] <LaserJock> and yeah, I'll ask a question
[01:12] <LaserJock> should the question be for launchpad and not codehosting?
[01:12] <mwhudson> LaserJock: rename it to matplotlib-dead, then kill it, i mean
[01:12] <mwhudson> t
[01:12] <LaserJock> ah
[01:12] <mwhudson> LaserJock: yes, launchpad, this isn't really to do with codehosting any more
[01:12] <LaserJock> right
[01:12] <LaserJock> thanks for the help
[01:53] <timo> So when you fill a bug you click report and click the bug if there is a duplicate then thats it?
[01:58] <timo> any one/
[01:58] <poolie> timo: not sure i understand the question
[01:59] <poolie> if it suggests duplicates you can click the suggestion for more detail
[01:59] <timo> ok, Say i file a bug
[01:59] <poolie> if that is in fact the bug you've encounterd, tick its checkbox and press ok
[02:00] <timo> yes but i have reported many bugs but looking at my account says i have 3 bugs reported how?
[02:01] <poolie> can you give me the url of the page that says that?
[02:01] <timo> i just reported this bug but nothing has change in the original bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/173878
[02:02] <timo> Am i making sense ?
[02:02] <poolie> sure
[02:03] <poolie> what is it that you want to know?
[02:03] <timo> How do i file bugs
[02:03] <poolie> are you 'neptune'?
[02:04] <timo> in widows you just click on report , but in ubuntu you have to log on don't you? , then what
[02:05] <timo> no im tim
[02:05] <poolie> are you experiencing the same problem described in 173878?
[02:06] <poolie> or do you want to report a different bug?
[02:06] <timo> same problems
[02:07] <poolie> and do you have a launchpad account?
[02:07] <timo> and reported it by clicking on the report icon and clicking send then loged on and selected the bug that i thin it is
[02:07] <poolie> ok i see
[02:08] <timo> but the bug stays the same how do the debuggers know the bug has changes with new info.
[02:08] <poolie> and did you press 'ok' after choosing that bug?
[02:08] <poolie> um
[02:08] <poolie> maybe the 'choose a duplicate' page is confusing
[02:08] <timo> It still has the 2007 dates
[02:08] <poolie> did you click the link, or press the radiobutton?
[02:08] <timo> the link to the bug itself
[02:09] <poolie> ok
[02:09] <poolie> you need to back up in your browser history and pick the radio button
[02:09] <timo> no radio here bud https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+filebug/x4KFeLG8WJmJBZsA1EUY32fpgql
[02:11] <poolie> oh that's really interesting
[02:11] <poolie> i think you've found a launchpad bug or at least misdesign
[02:11] <timo> Hope im the only one
[02:12] <poolie> so, basically what i suggest you do is enter your own summary, even if it's similar to what's already there
[02:12] <timo> been reporting some time now
[02:12] <poolie> like 'totem crashed trying to play avi file' or whatever
[02:12] <timo> and place log files?
[02:14] <poolie> it should then automatically attach your files to that new bug
[02:14] <timo> thing is the crash is a bit random.
[02:15] <poolie> i suggest you just report a new bug with the files attached then
[02:15] <poolie> and as much description as you can give
[02:15] <timo> ok
[02:17] <timo> do you know where the log would be place om my computer for totem
[02:17] <poolie> not off hand
[02:18] <poolie> i filed bug 267971, you can comment on that too
[02:18] <poolie> or subscribe to it
[02:20] <timo> Its prob just me. and my computer nothing wrong with the bug system
[02:22] <timo> ﻿subscribed
[02:24] <timo> thanks for all the help
[05:15]  * Hobbsee wonders if there's any useful mail from launchpad she actually needs, apart from bugs.
[05:16] <Hobbsee> everything launchpad has a X-launchpad-* header now, doesn't it?
[05:18] <thumper> Hobbsee: it should have
[05:18] <thumper> Hobbsee: if it doesn't, then you should file a bug :)
[05:20] <Hobbsee> hmmm....
[05:20] <Hobbsee> which would hopefully get fixed relatively quickly, too
[05:20]  * Hobbsee looks at filters
[08:51] <Peng_> Hmm, team approval messages don't have an X-Launchpad-* header, just "X-Generated-By: Launchpad (canonical.com)".
[10:12] <wgrant> Hrmph.
[10:12] <wgrant> Is it deliberate that milestones don't have their own set of tabs?
[10:13] <wgrant> It seems impossible to escape from from a milestone's +subscribe, and one can't easily get from the blueprint list to bug list or vice versa.
[10:28] <fta> hi, i'm trying to use my new @ubuntu.com address but it doesn't work (yet). could anyone come to my rescue ? :)
[10:28] <gour> hello
[10:29] <gour> i've two active gpg keys at LP. is it possible to use 3rd email address and sign it with one of those 2 keys to submit bug-report to LP?
[10:29] <wgrant> fta: You want #canonical-sysadmin. They shouldn't bounce you around any more.
[10:30] <wgrant> But it won't happen immediately.
[10:30] <wgrant> As there's a cron job that does it, IIRC.
[10:30] <wgrant> gour: I think that the email address needs to match.
[10:30] <gour> i see
[10:30] <wgrant> Don't quote me on that, though.
[10:30] <gour> :-)
[10:31] <gour> well, let's make an experiment :-)
[10:31] <fta> wgrant, how often is that cron runing? daily? weekly? any idea?
[10:31] <gour> any test address where one can send testing bug report via email?
[10:32] <wgrant> fta: #canonical-sysadmin would know.
[10:35] <fta> wgrant, i thought it was a channel on a private server, apparently not ;)
[10:36] <wgrant> fta: #is the one on a private server.
[10:36] <wgrant> Er, "#is is the one"
[11:10] <Peng_> If I want to file a bug about a certain email not containing an X-Launchpad header, where should I do it? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad ?
[11:12] <wgrant> Peng_: What is the email?
[11:13] <Leonidas> Could someone look into https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pyparsing/trunk ? It cannot be imported because something is broken, and before fixing that, it's useless to try to import every 5 hours.
[11:14] <Peng_> wgrant: Just the "you've been accepted into a team" one. It may not be worth reporting.
[11:14] <wgrant> Peng_: That's appropriate for launchpad-foundations.
[11:15] <mwhudson> Leonidas: done
[11:15] <Peng_> wgrant: So I should file it? Alright.
[11:17] <Leonidas> mwhudson: thanks. Now, is there a way to get it running? I suspected that I use the wrong URL for the SVN-Repo, but I'm not sure.
[11:17] <mwhudson> Leonidas: not with a repo layout like that, i think
[11:19] <mwhudson> Leonidas: unless importing just https://pyparsing.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pyparsing/src/ would be useful
[11:20] <Leonidas> mwhudson: thats enough since the other folders are empty anyway.
[11:20] <mwhudson> Leonidas: oh, ok :)
[11:21] <Leonidas> (no idea why the repo layout is so strange %-)
[11:21] <mwhudson> running the import system you encounter all sorts of strange things :)
[11:22] <mwhudson> (cvs is better at total wtf-ness than svn though)
[11:24] <Leonidas> mwhudson: thanks. I tried contacting folks via email, but never got an answer.
[12:18] <ryanakca> I was wondering, would having to be both the admin of a team and the owner of a project to be able to set the team as the bug superviser for the project a bug? If someone wants to set a team as the bug supervisor, and the team wants to receive the bugmail, but whoever owns the project isn't an admin in the bug-email team / doesn't want to be, wouldn't they be stuck?
[12:43] <Hobbsee> fta: re: email:  don't use your gmail account to test it, if it's forwarding to a gmail acccount.
[12:44] <fta> Hobbsee, don't worry, i didn't. it's fine now, thanks to elmo
[12:45] <Hobbsee> fta: ah, cool.  various other people have, and have run into that problem.
[12:49] <jpds> fta: :(
[12:49] <fta> Hobbsee, .. and thanks to jpds :)
[12:49] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:51] <fta> i'm all smile today.. great success with a project at work, and motu since yesterday :)
[12:51]  * fta is happy
[12:52]  * fta hugs everyone
[12:53]  * jpds hugs fta.
[14:48] <gour> is it possible to set 'importance' and 'tag' for newly created bug via email interface?
[14:48] <Hobbsee> yes
[14:48] <Hobbsee> afaik, anyway.
[14:48] <Hobbsee> assuming you have rights to do so normally
[14:49] <gour> well, if i'm member of the team
[14:49] <beuno> gour, https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface
[14:49] <gour> beuno: not clear from that docs, or if you can point it out ?
[14:50] <Hobbsee> gour: erm...
[14:50] <Hobbsee> gour: try the headings marked 'importance' and 'tag'
[14:50] <beuno> :)
[14:51] <Hobbsee> they're also in the contents thing, in case you missed htat.
[14:51] <gour> importance - Change the importance of a bug. but it's not clear if it can be set for a new bug
[14:51] <beuno> AFAIK, those apply to new and existing bugs
[14:52]  * beuno pokes BjornT 
[14:52] <Hobbsee> you can change it all at any time.
[14:52] <gour> i know i can change, but i want to set for new bugs which will be forwarded automatically
[14:53] <BjornT> gour: yes, you can set them when filing new bugs
[14:53] <gour> BjornT: thanks a lot. nice
[14:53] <beuno> thanks BjornT  :)
[14:55]  * gour had to find workaround for creating bug tickets out of automatic bug-reports sent from within the application. all just for the sake to make project use LP and then move to bzr :-)
[15:33] <fta> what are "private builds" ?
[15:38] <bigjools> builds done in a private PPA
[16:11] <cody-somerville> OOPS-983ED85
[16:46]  * Ursinha looks at the oops
[16:50] <cody-somerville> the link in PPA build failures still uses internal launchpad address
[16:56] <Ursinha> where?
[17:06] <kiko> cody-somerville, didn't we update the configs?
[17:06] <kiko> bigjools, ^^^
[17:06] <cody-somerville> Ursinha, in la e-mails
[17:06]  * bigjools looks
[17:15] <bigjools> cody-somerville: can you file a bug and attach the email please
[17:26] <samtb> i'm having trouble branching the mplayer bzr - i keep getting "error not a branch" from bzr
[17:26] <samtb> other branches work
[17:27] <samtb> i have tried launchpad-login but still no luck
[17:28] <samtb> sam@wildthing:~/dev/mplayer/bzr/mplayer$ bzr launchpad-login sambrightman
[17:28] <samtb> sam@wildthing:~/dev/mplayer/bzr/mplayer$ bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-dev/mplayer/ubuntu dev
[17:28] <samtb> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://sambrightman@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/mplayer/ubuntu/".
[17:28] <samtb> could someone please help me figure out what's going on here?
[17:32] <kiko> let me check that out
[17:33] <kiko> abentley, what's going on in the above?
[17:34] <samtb> it doesn't work over http either
[17:34] <samtb> (and ubuntu-hardy branch is empty... maybe that's just the way it is?)
[17:36] <LaserJock> Launchpad's munging of changelog entries is very "not nice". Please do *not* represent data as something it's not
[17:37] <bigjools> LaserJock: can you elaborate please?
[17:37] <LaserJock> it's a problem that's been known about for several releases and needs to be fixed now
[17:38] <LaserJock> attributing changelog entries to the wrong people
[17:38] <LaserJock> primarily for syncs I believe
[17:38] <bigjools> can you give me a specific example of that, and I'll look
[17:38] <LaserJock> sure
[17:38] <bigjools> thanks
[17:38] <LaserJock> compare https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/tuxpaint-stamps/2008.03.01-1
[17:38] <LaserJock> and http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/t/tuxpaint-stamps/tuxpaint-stamps_2008.03.01-1/changelog
[17:39] <bigjools> perfect, thanks
[17:39] <LaserJock> not only did Launchpad strip the attribution from the right person
[17:39] <LaserJock> it fakes somebody else's into it
[17:39] <LaserJock> a changelog is *very* easy to get, please use it
[17:40] <bigjools> LaserJock: please file a bug if you haven't already and I'll push it through
[17:40] <LaserJock> lol
[17:40] <samtb> kiko: any ideas?
[17:40] <LaserJock> a bug has been around for probably a year on this
[17:41] <kiko> samtb, I need abentley to help me out here
[17:41] <kiko> unless rockstar knows what it could be?
[17:41] <samtb> before i used lp-login
[17:41]  * rockstar perks up
[17:42] <samtb> the error message was referring to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/mplayer/ubuntu/.bzr/branch/
[17:42] <LaserJock> bigjools: see bug #55795 for instance, filed in *2006*
[17:42] <samtb> which colin suggested was old layout or something?
[17:43] <bigjools> LaserJock: thanks
[17:44] <rockstar> samtb, there seems to be a problem with that branch.
[17:44] <samtb> :( isn't it the main/current branch?
[17:44] <samtb> intrepid's ubuntu15 seems to be from that plus one change from nhandler
[17:44] <samtb> from what i can tell
[17:45] <samtb> but as i said, ubuntu-hardy is empty and ubuntu-intrepid doesn't exist
[17:45] <rockstar> samtb, let me take a look at this.
[17:45] <LaserJock> bigjools: see also bug #139162 and bug #247456 for related
[17:46] <LaserJock> changelog entries are such an unbelievable simple thing for Launchpad to do utterly wrong
[17:47] <samtb> rockstar: i'm gonna have to leave for the night very shortly, can be back tomorrow
[17:48] <rockstar> samtb, alright.
[17:48] <samtb> rockstar: what time zone/eta?
[17:48] <samtb> roughly
[17:49] <rockstar> samtb, well, not sure an the ETA, but it's a high priority.
[17:49] <samtb> i mean when you'll be around here :)
[17:50] <emet> hey about karma
[17:50] <samtb> or shall i just leave you to it and keep trying - anything i can do?
[17:50] <emet> does karma take a while to update?
[17:51] <beuno> emet, yes, it updates every 24hs
[17:51] <beuno> ish
[18:01] <\sh> hmm...
[18:01] <\sh> is it planed to have a check against "application name" inside lpapi for apps which are already approved under the same name?
[18:03] <ubuntuser> Who help me? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/mail-notification/+question/44261
[18:03] <\sh> or is it possible to "reserve" some consumer_key idents for "special" apps?
[18:03] <ubuntuser> is about mailing lists
[18:04] <ubuntuser> jcastro: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/mail-notification/+question/44261 - Help us! Please....
[18:05] <jcastro> barry: help!
[18:05] <barry> jcastro: hi
[18:06] <ubuntuser> thx...
[18:06] <jcastro> ok, I believe this list was declined initially, and then after that it was decided to have it on launchpad
[18:06] <jcastro> but when they reapplied it came up with that error
[18:07] <ubuntuser> initially.. yes..
[18:08] <barry> jcastro, ubuntuser question updated
[18:08] <jcastro> barry: thanks!
[18:08] <barry> jcastro, ubuntuser let me know if you need more info
[18:08] <jcastro> I suspect that fixing it now would require mangle-age that isn't allowed. :p
[18:10] <ubuntuser> the same problem: The application for this team's mailing list has been declined. Please contact a Launchpad administrator for further assistance.
[18:10] <jcastro> ubuntuser: he meants subscribe to the bug, once it's fixed you'll apply again
[18:11] <ubuntuser> Ahh.. ok!
[18:11] <jcastro> ubuntuser: go here and click "subscribe" https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/237210
[18:11] <ubuntuser> thanks jcastro and barry
[18:12] <jcastro> cheers!
[18:12] <barry> np!
[19:16] <patpiiii> hello
[19:16] <patpiiii> any admin available?
[19:17] <patpiiii> I'm in great need of this reassignation https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/44018
[19:17] <patpiiii> is this possible?
[19:20] <abentley> kiko: Sorry, was on lunch.
[19:20] <kiko> abentley, no problemo
[19:20] <kiko> patpiiii, hangona
[19:21] <kiko> patpiiii, the right way to fix that problem would have been to merge the accounts!
[19:21] <abentley> kiko: Do you want me to look at this now?
[19:21] <kiko> patpiiii, I'll reassign to kamil fwiw
[19:21] <kiko> abentley, I'd like to understand how a hosted branch can fail bzr branching, yes
[19:23] <patpiiii> kiko:
[19:23] <abentley> kiko: There's no branch there, just a repository.
[19:23] <patpiiii> but the first Arvanil account was deleted
[19:23] <patpiiii> now it is Kamil Dziedzic
[19:23] <patpiiii> so merge is impossible
[19:24] <patpiiii> (i think)
[19:24] <patpiiii> so if you can pleas assign this to me, "patpi"
[19:24] <kiko> abentley, but visiting the page I see revisions
[19:24] <patpiiii> or to kamil
[19:24] <\sh> kiko: is it planned to package launchpadlib for intrepid?
[19:24] <patpiiii> can kamil later add another admin to this project?
[19:24] <kiko> patpiiii, indeed it is impossible now. I can reassign to kamil as he requested it.
[19:24] <kiko> \sh, absolutely 100% yes
[19:25] <patpiiii> ok, but then he would be abble to add me also to admins
[19:25] <patpiiii> because i will setup those trabnslations
[19:25] <\sh> kiko: ok..I'll have httplib2 0.4.0 handy...so UVE is on its way
[19:26] <kiko> \sh, ah, you are the man, thanks so much -- if you can help packaging that flacoste and leonardr have a much easier life
[19:26] <\sh> kiko: har...I'm glad that I found the time to integrate lplib now into leonov (at least the approval stuff)
[19:26] <\sh> I'm really busy regarding company life
[19:27] <\sh> ok...off I been
[19:28] <kiko> \sh, thanks
[19:28] <abentley> kiko: My guess is that the mirrored copy is broken but the read-write copy is not.
[19:28] <kiko> abentley, except that.. well, using bzr+ssh didn't work either? it's weird weird weird.
[19:29] <abentley> kiko: I don't have write permissions on that project, so I always see the mirrored copy.
[19:29] <kiko> I see
[19:29] <abentley> kiko: Even over bzr+ssh.
[19:29] <kiko> abentley, thanks, at least now I know what the problem could be
[19:30] <abentley> kiko: Do your superpowers allow you to see the read-write copy?
[19:31] <kiko> abentley, probably not me either, but give me the branch URL and I'll find a writer to test for us
[19:31] <abentley> kiko: It's the same bzr+ssh URL.
[19:31] <cody-somerville> weird
[19:31] <cody-somerville> links *on* launchpad are pointing to the internal domain name
[19:31] <kiko> abentley, it scrolled off my screen :)
[19:32] <abentley> kiko: run "bzr info bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/mplayer/ubuntu/".  It should not say "Unshared repository with trees"
[19:32] <patpiiii> so, kiko, can you assign it also to me?
[19:33] <kiko> Unshared repository with trees (format: unnamed)
[19:33] <abentley> kiko: Right, sorry.  I meant for the writer to run that.
[19:33] <abentley> kiko: It's supposed to say "Standalone branch"
[19:39] <kiko> abentley, cody-somerville tells me it's Standalone branch (format: unnamed)
[19:39] <kiko> abentley, so something's broken in the mirrorring
[19:40] <abentley> kiko: Okay, I'll get someone to stomp on it.
[19:40] <kiko> thanks aaron
[19:42] <abentley> kiko: Is there a bug #, or someone to notify?
[19:43] <kiko> abentley, well, all I had was scrollback, so I don't really know -- don't think so. cody-somerville, did you submit a question for that?
[19:46] <cody-somerville> for the links issue? no
[19:47] <patpiiii> thanks kiko, bye
[20:26] <DnaX> How can i remove a wrong Ubuntu package link?
[20:28] <kiko> DnaX, it depends. for some it works in the UI, for others, it requires a DB run. where's the wrong link?
[20:28] <DnaX> https://edge.launchpad.net/ircp-tray
[20:28] <DnaX> exits only Intrepid package
[20:31] <psycose> hi
[20:32] <DnaX> kiko: so?
[20:32] <kiko> DnaX, it requires a DB patch. good grief
[20:32] <DnaX> and... who can this?
[20:33] <DnaX> can do this*
[20:34] <psycose> i use dput to upload a package on my PPA, the *source.upload says everything ok but nohing happens on the PPA builder ... that is still idle ... any tips ? thanks
[20:37] <cprov-afk> psycose: were you notified by email about the upload acceptance/rejection ?
[20:38] <DnaX> kiko: who can do this DB patch?
[20:38] <psycose> cprov-afk: no in fact i launch the dput this more than 12 hours ago ...
[20:39] <kiko> DnaX, i'm trying to find an OSA but they are not here, so I'd ask you to use answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[20:39] <cprov-afk> psycose: uhm, do another upload and I will trace it for you.
[20:40] <psycose> cprov-afk: woops i'm sorry ... i did not saw the mail saying it was rejected ... (hide by debian-release mailing list so hudge)
[20:41] <cprov-afk> psycose: np, let me know if you need any help to sort out the rejection issue.
[20:43] <psycose> cprov-afk: ok thanks for your help
[20:43] <cprov-afk> psycose: you're welcome.
[21:01] <DnaX> kiko: ok, I ask there
[21:03] <kiko> DnaX, thanks man
[21:03] <DnaX> bye
[21:49] <abentley> kiko, samtb: ~/ubuntu-dev/mplayer/ubuntu is working now.
[21:50] <abentley> cody-somerville: Please consider upgrading ~ubuntu-dev/mplayer/ubuntu to packs.
[21:51] <cody-somerville> abentley, it isn't my branch :P
[21:51] <abentley> cody-somerville: You have write access :-P
[21:51] <cody-somerville> true