[04:57] <pwnguin> you know what would be neat? a totem pole from ubuntu animals
[05:39] <DanaG> Why the heck do things keep getting OOM-killed?
[05:39] <DanaG> er, wrong tab.
[10:49] <Cimi> kwwii, ping
[10:50] <Cimi> tell me when you'll be available this afternoon/evening, in CEST timezone
[11:08] <kwwii> Cimi: pong
[11:08] <kwwii> I am avaiable now (and later probably as well)
[11:39] <Cimi> kwwii, maybe I'll change a bit the background of scrollbars and progressbars with the new contrast function, and maybe the highlight of the notebook
[11:40] <kwwii> Cimi: cool, I was just working on getting a package ready...I can wait if you'd like and put in the newest stuff you have
[11:40] <Cimi> also, I've seen one recent version of newhuman, and I have to admit I prefer the earlier versions, where the base color was saturated (not plain white) and where scrollbars were not colored
[11:41] <kwwii> yeah, both of "my" themes need work...been busy doing other stuff unfortunately
[11:41] <Cimi> kwwii, you can do a new package tonight or tomorrow, because if I will change something, it will be only notebook highlight and progressbar/scrollbar background
[11:42] <Cimi> because with the new contrast function it changes color, and I don't want it
[11:42] <Cimi> if you wait 10 minutes I do tat thing for the background
[11:43] <kwwii> Cimi: cool, go right ahead :-)
[11:43] <kwwii> I can wait until tonight, if that's enough time
[11:55] <Cimi> kwwii, could you try rev 59?
[11:56] <Cimi> btw I'm not sure of this
[11:57] <Cimi> on low contrasts it could look odd
[12:03] <kwwii> Cimi: sure, which svn are you using now?
[12:04] <Cimi> mm
[12:04] <Cimi> it is not looking odd at low contrasts
[12:04] <Cimi> btw
[12:04] <Cimi> rev 59 does not change the background of scrollbars and progressbars
[12:05] <Cimi> 58 does
[12:05] <Cimi> (when tou change the contrast)
[12:05] <Cimi> please try both and tell me which behaviour you think is correct for a contrast function
[12:14] <kwwii> Cimi: compiling now
[12:17] <Cimi> http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/580/screenshot1pa4.png
[12:20] <kwwii> let me restart my desktop
[12:26] <kwwii> hrm, hard to tell the difference on a running system :p
[13:30] <Ziroday-temp> kwwii: ping
[13:50] <kwwii> Ziroday-temp: pong
[13:50] <thorwil> bonjour!
[13:51] <kwwii> servus
[18:37] <rsc_> oi, thorwil. :)
[18:37] <thorwil> hi rsc_
[18:38] <rsc_> anything fresh? the mailing list has been quiet lately.
[18:38] <thorwil> well, i'm still working on the countdown images
[18:39]  * _MMA_ will have some more Breathe icon set info this week.
[18:39] <rsc_> ah, swell
[18:39] <rsc_> i can't wait to see progress on the icon theme.
[18:39] <thorwil> i'm somewhat disappointed that apparently no one cares about bg colors for breathe. not exactly surprised, though
[18:40] <rsc_> re: bg colors for breathe, i didn't really bother making noise in that thread since I knew there was no way to do it anyway :/
[18:40] <thorwil> no way to do what?
[18:40] <rsc_> but it really has been quite a problem that's plagued me whenever I make icons, and a solution for it would be wonderful IMHO.
[18:41] <rsc_> having a different slightly-adjusted icon for different bg colors?
[18:41] <thorwil> i was referring to the set of bg colors, not the post about automatic adjustment
[18:42] <_MMA_> thorwil: I think most are like: "OK. Sounds good. Now give us new icons!" :) I hope to have the technicals done this week so I can get people submitting icons for a base set this weekend.
[18:43] <thorwil> could be
[18:43] <rsc_> ahh.
[18:47] <_MMA_> thorwil: What would you consider a "base set"? folder, computer, home, hardrive, trash, CD and CD-ROM?
[18:48] <thorwil> _MMA_: maybe the set used on gnome-look?
[18:48] <_MMA_> No no. I'll have a call for replacements of Oxygen. A starting point.
[18:48] <thorwil> _MMA_: your list sounds good, though
[18:49] <_MMA_> Ok.
[18:50] <_MMA_> thorwil: You might want to kill you perspective idea on the wiki if we're gonna follow Oxygen there.
[18:51] <thorwil> _MMA_: i think it should be brought up at least
[18:51] <thorwil> except if you are suddenly sure it's the right path
[18:52] <_MMA_> I'm sure about following Oxygen and improving where we can.
[18:57] <thorwil> _MMA_: i removed my note about trying gradation curves for adjusting to varying backgrounds. box and sphere make sense even just to pick up how oxygen does it
[18:58] <thorwil> looks like "trivial change" means you will not get a notice
[18:58] <_MMA_> thorwil: Sure. Could you look through them so you can make an image people can look at and understand?
[18:59] <thorwil> hopefully
[18:59] <_MMA_> thorwil: I tend to do that as I make alot of small mistakes. :)
[18:59] <_MMA_> "trivial change"
[19:20] <rsc_> _MMA_: Why not include some standard toolbar buttons too? (Back, forward, stop)
[19:20] <rsc_> it's going to be visible a lot (ff/nautilus) on an average user's computer time.
[19:24] <_MMA_> rsc_: Sure. I think that will go in the next round.