[00:53] good evening gentlemen [00:59] * owh looks around, no, lots of sun around here, no evening anywhere :) [01:02] true its GMT relative [01:02] :) [01:03] I just finished a server install and have two issues, I cant reboot since I need to be a super user. and don't know the password. [01:03] I was told a comand before, but can't remember [01:03] AlexGC: So, let me get this straight, you installed ubuntu-server, but you don't know the password? [01:03] Or are you talking about the "root" password? [01:04] yeah sorry, root password [01:04] Riight. That I can help you with. [01:04] :) [01:04] There is no root password. [01:04] But... [01:04] You can use sudo to do root things. [01:05] So, you can type sudo reboot [01:05] and it will prompt you for your administrator password. [01:05] Magic :) [01:05] or sudo su + passwd [01:05] and type in mine. [01:05] Cool. [01:05] We don't use a root user in ubuntu if we can help it. [01:05] Well, that's not strictly true :) [01:06] Thanks! it worked [01:06] skep: A quicker way to do what you suggest is sudo -s [01:06] we? one of my first actions after installing (*)ubuntu is to activate the root account and set a password ;) [01:06] AlexGC: Of course you could just have pressed CTRL-ALT-DELETE :) [01:06] skep: That is not a ubuntu recommended process. [01:06] true.. lol [01:09] recommended or not.. i prefer it this way..so it feels more like debian to me [01:09] skep: That's a personal preference. [01:09] yes [01:11] AlexGC: Here is why: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [01:22] oh let me give it a read, thanks [01:37] how do I change the home folder of a user? [01:39] I'm unsure if there's a utility that handles it. You can `sudo vipw` and change it though. [01:41] guiless: check out the usermod command [01:42] hads: I typed 'sudo vipw' and now I can't figure out how to exit it [01:42] o.o [01:43] Ah okay, bad idea then. [01:43] :q [01:43] how to exit and not save changes? [01:43] :q! [01:43] What skep said is a much more refined way of doing things. [01:43] i'll do so when i manage to get out of this screen [01:44] Press ESC [01:44] nothing happened [01:44] Then enter :q! [01:44] nope [01:44] works for me (:q!) [01:44] i tried ctrl+x and ctrl+c as well [01:45] mine just beeps at me when i press things [01:45] it says recording at the bottom [01:45] ctrl+z exited for some reason [01:45] Well, it didn't it just stopped vim [01:46] that's fine by me lol [01:46] You can type fg to get it back [01:46] i like nano [01:46] vim scares me [01:46] guiless: press q one time and then :q! if you see the "recording" line [01:47] how do i edit that same file with nano? [01:47] My fault for leading you astray. Use the usermod command as skep suggested. [01:48] But you should also make sure that vim isn't still editing your passwd [01:48] i should do that even though the file i edited has a bunch of random characters typed in the user path for the user i want to edit? [01:48] Typing `jobs` will tell you if your vipw command is still running. [01:49] meh, i just rebooted [01:50] Use that hammer. [01:50] lol [01:56] hmm [01:56] I have vsftpd configured to allow connections from local users [01:57] but when a user connects via nautilus, they aren't sent to their home folder [01:57] they go to / [01:57] how can i restrict that? === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [03:36] New bug: #267980 in openssh (main) "scp cannot quoted filenames with "]"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267980 [03:38] is that supprising? [04:22] ScottK, looks like success [04:23] ScottK, building now [04:23] ScottK, mind opening a bug for me? [04:46] nealmcb: thanks for the compliments, dude ;-) [08:24] Hi, how many ppl usually attend a Ubuntu Developer Summit? 300? 500? 700? [08:32] Oh, no, not that many. [08:33] I'd say more like 100 or thereabouts. [08:35] wow. thats small [08:35] That's what she said :( [08:35] :( [08:35] hehe [08:36] soren, Ok, thank you very much :) [08:37] I think the UDS at Mountain View last time was larger, though, I think. [08:40] UDS in december will not be the first time Google hosts a UDS-event right? [08:40] correct. [08:40] nandersson: Right. They hosted it two years ago as well. [08:40] nandersson: That must have been the UDS where we planned for.... [08:40] err... [08:41] feisty, I think. [08:41] Yes, it must have been. [08:41] soren, :-) Thank you very much. I'm writing for Swedish TechWorld Open Source and I'm putting together a blog post [08:41] nandersson: Oh, cool. [08:42] Very interesting with these "weblications" [08:42] soren: watch out, anything you say will be used in evidence against you :P [08:42] haha [08:42] Nah, I'm just after some background information [08:45] :) [08:46] nandersson: Feel free to ask. I'm happy to help. [08:57] afk. have a good interview ;) [09:48] soren: Is the location for the next UDS known, I mean, the one after the coming one, so the next-next one if you like :) [09:57] owh: you might ask in #ubuntu-devel-summit , although i doin't think the next ones are known [09:57] skep: Tah [10:24] hello [10:25] hi mehdi :) Try here :) [10:25] thx [10:25] mehdi: Welcome to the Ubuntu-server helpdesk. How may we direct your call today? [10:25] :) [10:26] i would like use vhost with apache2 [10:26] and your problem is? [10:26] i make 2 files in etc/apache2/site en [10:27] a make link with a2ensite [10:27] when a reload apache [10:27] i have [10:27] /etc/init.d/apache2 reload [10:27] * Reloading web server config apache2 [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80, the first has precedence [10:27] [warn] NameVirtualHost myip:0 has no VirtualHosts [10:30] do you mean it's better if a try to make my vhost in default file /etc/apache2/site-enabled [10:31] mehdi: I believe that it's telling you that your two sites have definitions that are the same. [10:31] where i can change a definition ? [10:32] mehdi: first of all..your config files are in /sites-availabe and your symlinks in /site-enabled,, [10:32] mehdi: Have a read of this: http://www.heavymind.net/2007/07/25/virtualhosts-nightmare-on-suse/ [10:32] do you have a NameVirtualHost *:80 line in your files [10:35] mehdi: What skep is saying is correct. The URL I showed you explains why. [10:35] owh: I doubt it. Although, there's a tendency to alternate between Europe and North America, so "somewhere in Europe" seems likely. [10:36] ok i find some thing in apache2.conf i have now a different message [10:37] * Reloading web server config apache2 [Tue Sep 09 11:44:56 2008] [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80, the first has precedence [10:37] soren: Tah [10:38] yes [10:38] i have [10:39] mehdi: and your default vhost-file (the one that comes with apache2 install) is deactivated? [10:40] and just to claraify..you have 3 chost files starting with "NameVirtualHost *:80" and ..? [10:40] *clarify [10:40] yes [10:40] i have default and vhost1 and Vhost2 [10:41] i can use 1 files? [10:42] of course you can also put all vhosts in one file [10:43] mehdi: The disadvantage of that is you cannot disable them individually, but it will work. [10:46] what happens if you remove the line "NameVirtualHost *:80 from vhost1 and vhost2? [10:51] mehdi: ok..sorry..was confused..still morning here ;-) ..go to /etc/apache2/conf.d/ and create a file called: virtual.conf and put this line into it: NameVirtualHost * ...then delete in your vhost files the first line ("NameVirtualHost *:80") and change the next line just to (without the :80)..in case you don't have one site listen on 443 [10:52] i try [10:52] although I think you don't need to remove the *:80 part there.. [11:03] how do i make a iptables script launch on boot , the easiest way? [11:05] andriijas: good question, I want to know myself... [11:07] andriijas: look in /etc/uwf [11:11] mok0: i just need to change no to yes in ufw.conf? [11:12] andriijas, well that will start the firewall with the pre-defined rules... [11:12] which are the predfined rules? thers lots of files in /etc/ufw [11:13] andriijas: Those are the ones, yes. I am no expert on this system though [11:14] mehdi: did it work? [11:14] andriijas: the script to start the whole thing is in /etc/init.d/ufw [11:16] andriijas: unless there is a writeup of the ufw, you need to study both the rules, and how they are started to understand how it works [11:17] nice [11:17] thx [11:28] Ola [11:29] sorry many probleme [11:29] now [11:29] apache don't say nothing just OK [11:29] but i have it's work [11:29] i loose my main page [11:30] it's possible to copy somewhere my default conf [11:30] like this you can see [11:33] mehdi http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [11:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/44858/ [11:40] uhm..maybe i'm completely on the wrong track here, but don't the Directory stuff belong *inside* the ...??? [11:40] i haven't seen such a setup (outside) before [11:41] and the first directive is wrong..it starts with <\..> and ends with <...> ,should be the other way around [11:43] ok [11:46] so to sum up: you should put on (or more) ... inside each .. part, depending on your actual setup..and then it should work.. [11:46] *put one [11:47] same with the rest (ErrorLog, Alias ect) [11:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/44863/ like this [11:56] um..no.. [11:56] a [11:56] can you give me post exemple please [11:56] one second [11:57] thx [11:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/44865/ [11:59] first bit of advise, put each vhost config into separate files, second, everything goes inside the third, remove the doc / cgi config forth, use ServerName for each vhost, move NameServer into ports.conf [12:00] i found the server guide for intrepid, I wanted to review the ldap replication info === vk5foss_ is now known as kgoetz [12:04] ok [12:04] mehdi: if you don't know what all the lines inside the directoy directive mean..please read that up on apache.org or other sites...let alone for security reasons [12:05] i have a message [12:06] [Tue Sep 09 13:13:35 2008] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts [12:06] httpd (pid 10645) already running [12:06] mehdi, sigh, you didn't create the nameserver entry did you [12:06] by default you get * [12:07] i suggest you create NameVirtualHost *:80, and put it in ports.conf [12:07] next to the line that says listen 80 [12:08] incorrect: why put it in ports.conf? [12:08] also you might find 'apache2ctl -t' handy [12:08] kgoetz, well its a fairly sensible place to put it, its pretty dumb to put it in the vhost config if you have more than one vhost, [12:09] you will get loads of warnings [12:09] you can put in in any file in conf.d afaik [12:09] i for example have it in virtual.conf (in conf.d) [12:09] Listen 80 NameVirtualHost *:80 is sensible [12:09] * kgoetz cant remember how his are setup, and isnt bothering to check *g* [12:10] this way you have one place to check that you remembered to tell apache to listen on that port and you declared the virtual host entry for it [12:10] in ports.conf i only have my port settings for 80 and 443 and in virtual.conf * (instead of *:80) [12:11] additional overhead, i am lazy [12:11] :-) [12:11] you can even wrap you nameserver entry with your ssl if clauses [12:11] everyone as he/she likes :) [12:12] i think its pretty bad that by default its in the default vhost [12:12] true [12:12] well..not really bad, but confusing [12:12] confusing is bad [12:13] apache 1.3 was really confusing..v2 is much better and cleaner.. [12:13] sendmail is really confusing [12:13] heh [12:13] haha [12:15] i've lost my link to the server docs for intrepid, can someone point me in the right direction [12:16] The server guide? If so it's the tinyurl in the topic. [12:16] intrepid [12:16] My bad [12:16] i am after the ldap replication info [12:16] Past my bed time [12:16] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/IntrepidServerGuide [12:17] well..quiet empty..and edubuntu.. [12:17] *quite [12:18] so the tinyurl is the best one === ogra_ is now known as ogra [12:34] Hello! [12:34] soren: you there? :) [12:38] well,maybe someone else knows.... [12:38] i am failing to build lighttpd: http://pastebin.com/m2a6421c2 [12:38] it cant find lua.h for some reason :-/ [12:40] I need more context. Specifically the 5-10 lines that lead up to "mod_magnet_cache.h:8:17: error: lua.h: No such file or directory" [12:42] better? http://pastebin.com/m1909b0d7 [12:43] * soren looks [12:43] thanks [12:43] Yes, that's much better. [12:44] As you can see, the gcc commandline does not include a "-I/usr/include/lua5.1/" [12:44] I'm not sure why, though. [12:44] Which version of lighty is this? [12:44] lighttpd-1.4.19 [12:47] spiekey: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16408327/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.lighttpd_1.4.19-4ubuntu2_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz [12:48] spiekey: We pass --with-lua=5.1 [12:48] Hello, Last night I upgraded my server to hardy and now my subjects in postfix are coming through like Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?B?U1BPVDogQWxhcm0gYWN0aXZhdGVkIG9uIEZsdWZmeSBAIDIwMDgvMDkvMDkgMDE6NDE6NDMgUE0=?= Any idea what could be causing this? [12:48] Does that work for you? [12:48] I doubt postfix started rewriting subject lines. [12:49] Agreed. Its seems to be somethign to do with the encoding. [12:49] What kind of content filtering do you have? spam and/or virus filtering? [12:49] Did you by any chance change your e-mail client as well? [12:50] The client changed nothing. I just ran an upgrade. I have a python filter that manipulates emails coming in, thats where I noticed the problem. [12:51] The =?WINDOWS-1252? is the encoding being used. [12:51] soren: nope :-/ http://pastebin.com/m38268fee [12:51] THis changes with the encoding. [12:53] CrummyGummy: yes. And that's the correct way to specify your encoding. [12:53] CrummyGummy: Are you entirely positive that this was not the case before? Where are these mails coming from? [12:55] Yes, I can see it in my mail logs. Last night subject was readable and then it was unreadable. The mail is comeing from some sort of client app. [12:55] I'm not sure. It works find from kmail. [12:55] I think you're barking up the wrong tree with postfix, to be honest. [12:55] I'd look elsewhere. [12:56] postfix has never been in the habit of modifying subject lines, as far as I know. [12:57] hmmm, maybe I need to work out how to decode this in python. [12:59] Is there a package with codepages that may not have been installed properly? [13:05] i can't think of any, no. [13:05] 7win 21 [13:05] Gah [13:07] hmmm, lemme see if the postfix guys ahve a clue. [13:12] * CrummyGummy is getting the client to send plain text, no punctuations. [13:50] soren: any further ideas? [13:53] argh! i had something in my env variables!! )(/()/(/&/(&$&%§&$%§& [13:53] thanks anyway [13:54] <_ruben> hrm .. i delete a (hardware) raid array and created a larger one, but didnt wipe the disks, so the gpt sig is still there and wrong .. parted crashes when it tries to fix it :/ [14:09] _ruben: Wipe it? [14:11] _ruben: Not all of the disk, just the parts where the GPT resides (probably the first few kb of the disk should suffice). [14:12] <_ruben> soren: thats what im looking into now .. but i think its at the old end of the 'disk', if i read the errors correctly .. currently rebooting the box .. will doublecheck [14:15] <_ruben> ah .. the *backup* gpt table isnt at the end of the disk .. lets wipe the first few bits :) [14:17] <_ruben> yay .. fixed .. wonder if i could've just done mklabel without wiping first .. it was print that was complaining :p [14:23] jdstrand: if you want, I can help you to backport ufw and iptables in hardy (I do not know the procedure yet, but I have currently the time to do it) [14:28] mok0: re ufw> see 'man ufw' and https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html [14:29] jdstrand: hey thanks! [14:29] didrocks: sure, go for it :) Keep in mind, iptables backport will likely not be straightforward [14:31] jdstrand: it will be a good experiment for my first backport :) [14:32] I think this is the good entry point: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Backport%20Process ? [14:33] * jdstrand nods [14:35] sommer: your changes to ufw docs look great! :) [14:35] jdstrand: party! [14:35] hmm i wrote a detailed setup for bonding, now i can't find it [15:51] server community meeting in 10' -> #ubuntu-meeting [15:54] kirkland: hm - update-motd is still in universe. [15:54] kirkland: do you have a MIR for it ? [15:54] mathiaz: yes [15:54] kirkland: has the MIR been approved ? [16:28] I want to share a folder with samba to anyone readonly [16:28] can someone help with that please? [16:29] anyone??? [16:33] stapel: simply set the file level permissions of the files/folders in question to read only and you're good to go [16:35] if I try to connect from XP I get an error message when clicking on the ubuntu server hostname [16:35] How did you set up the samba share? [16:36] I have deleted the smb.conf and started from scratch [16:36] only have two stanzas in there [16:36] [global] [16:36] [sharename] [16:36] in global i just set the workgroup - thats all [16:37] in [sharename] I just set path and comment [16:37] thats it [16:38] OK, and did you set up a samba user to authenticate as? [16:38] don't think so...how can I check? [16:39] ...not really sure what u mean [16:39] is that the smbpasswd thing? [16:39] My understanding (and I'm just a newbie, so don't blame me if I'm wrong!) is that samba has it's own users [16:40] ok [16:40] Yes, smbpasswd [16:40] so how do I set up a samba user? [16:41] If I remember rightly; [16:41] and will anyone automatically log in as this user then? [16:41] sudo smbpasswd -a username [16:41] then [16:41] sudo smbpasswd -e username [16:41] No, it won't be automatic [16:42] ok, let me give that a go quickly [16:45] okay, I have done that...so how do i tell samba that i want all users to log on as this user? [16:51] any idea how to proceed from there? [17:47] i want to install mod_proxy into apache. apache was either installed via apt-get or at install time (same thing i guess right?). so my understanding is that the best solution is having the module recompiled into apache. but i don't have the source, and i want to keep the package intact, so im not sure how about going about this. suggestions? === RoAk is now known as RoAkSoAx [18:31] had to change locations, did someone answer my question by chance (about mod_proxy). for now i actually just used a2enmod, but as i understand just "enables" it, it doesn't compile it in [18:35] themime: why do you want to "compile it in"? the module is already compiled [18:39] anyone know what avahi's purpose is since it's preventing my machines from joining an AD domain? [18:41] ok i actually found another solution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/80900/comments/26 [18:41] Launchpad bug 80900 in avahi "problems resolving fully qualified domain names in environments where .local is used as a TLD" [Medium,Confirmed] [18:41] suggestion changing the nsswith.conf file [18:42] tested and it works [18:42] question is how do I work that in to a preseed? [18:43] Goosemoose, what are you trying to do specifically? [18:45] make 500 computers join an AD domain [18:46] from the preseed.cfg file [18:46] when they are being imaged using PXE over the network [18:46] I haven't done much with preseeding [18:46] * NCommander checks what package owns nsswitch.conf [18:47] sommer: its not really compiled in from my understanding, just loaded in? if it doesn't make a difference i won't mess with it for now, although id like to know how to do it in the future. but i think ill concentrate on figuring out how directives/configuring the module work first [18:47] NCommander, thanks [18:47] hello, how can I remove ubuntu-server to ask login in the startup [18:48] n-iCe_, login as in? [18:48] haha, fail [18:48] themime, I'm really hoping he's not asking what I think he's asking [18:48] i know, hence the fail [18:49] lets address it seriously though rather than make fun of him, everyone has to start new sometime in their lives [18:49] Goosemoose, I've never network deployed Debian or Ubuntu, but I do know preseed can run proper commands, you could do something like cat <<- EOF *contents of nsswtich* > /etc/nsswitch.conf [18:49] Or something like that [18:49] s/proper/shell/g [18:49] n-iCe_: in all seriousness, the login at startup is a security thing, removing it basically negates a large chunk of the security [18:49] hmm ok, guess ill need to look at the late command some more, thanks [18:50] n-iCe_: I'm assuming you mean the login prompt with a monitor/keyboard plugged in, ie the graphical one. If this is a case there is a way to do it, but then I have to ask, why are you using the server version? [18:51] themime: it doesn't make any difference, and to "compile it in" would mean you'd have to recompile apache... and wouldn't really make much sense to me [18:51] themime: the advantage of a module is that you can load and unload it as needed [18:52] sommer: i know apache would have to be recompiled. i mean as of right now, i guess I'm set and can start looking into how configuring modules work, but just for my own curiosuity I'd like to know how to compile them in after having apt-get'd it in the first place. but ill leave that for another day. [18:53] themime, you can compile a package from source with apt-get -b source *package* [18:53] (that will grab the source package and generate the debs) [18:54] NCommander: well, in this case we're talking about a module for apache. the only one i saw that was what i wanted was proxy_html, but i need mod_proxy and mod_proxy_http (which i a2enmod'd in anyway, so its not a big deal right now). now i need to find some good docs for configuring it [18:55] themime, grab the module source, then use apxs to install and configure it against Ubuntu's apache [18:55] oh, so thats what apxs does [18:55] themime, libapache2-mod-proxy-html - Apache2 filter module for HTML links rewriting [18:55] Or just install the Ubuntu package [18:56] thats the one i saw, but it looked like a sub package of proxy, not the full deal, but i may be wrong [18:56] NCommander: what do you mean "just install the ubuntu package" - just to make sure i understand you correctly, you just mean apt-get install libapache2-modetcetc? [18:56] themime, no, apt-get install libapache2-mod-proxy-html [18:57] which will properly add the module to the default config [18:57] Oh [18:57] Yeah [18:57] hehe [18:58] was too lazy to type it all out. oh well, for now, i have them loaded, so ill maybe mess with compiling them in later. thanks for the info [18:58] any good links to configuring modules/how directives work? or should i just use the basic apache docs? [18:59] uhm [19:00] n-iCe_: scroll up, we responded [19:00] yeah im reading jiji, my grandmother called me [19:00] ok [19:00] np [19:01] I use it, because I set up some psybnc's eggdrops, etc, but when the power wents off, the pc restarts but can't start again, because asks my login [19:02] question. with my windows machines i can 'push' new programs out across my domain when I need to using various methods. How would I do this with my ubuntu machines? [19:02] for example push an OO.org update? or a new program [19:04] directives are just placed in the httpd.conf, correct? (or whatever equivilent is, i use apache 1.3 with centos/rh at work so it may different with apache2.2/ubuntu) [19:04] or .htaccess i suppose would be safer [19:15] in order to utilize mod_proxy, does an underlying script have to be running? something tells me it just doesn't magically start acting as a forward proxy, the URL you want has to go somewhere, i can't find information on this [19:18] im starting to think it does. there needs to be something to handle the http requests, does thats sound accurate? [19:24] for a script using the late_command, i don't need to use sudo because it's already running as root correct? [19:25] sommer: Any chance you could look into php-clamavlib with clamav 0.94? In Intrepid it seems to have both a libtool problem and a clamav intregration problem. [19:26] Goosemoose: Yes. [19:26] ok thanks [19:32] ScottK: ya, briefly took a look at that this weekend... weren't we dropping php-clamavlib for intrepid, since it's dead upstream? [19:33] sommer: We can, but at long as it's working, there's no solid reason to dump it. [19:33] well... isn't it not working? [19:34] sommer: Not at the moment, but if you could fix it again .... [19:35] ScottK: not sure how much time I'll have to devote to that, especially in for the life of the next release [19:35] ScottK: I'd really recommend dropping it [19:36] sommer: OK. Let's give it a bit to see if Debian comes up with anything. [19:36] ScottK: sounds like a plan :-) [19:36] hey ScottK, I posted the debdiff for 3.5.9/3.5.10 [19:36] er, sorry, wrong room [19:37] NCommander: You want join #kubuntu-devel [20:11] * delcoyote hi [20:12] hi [20:29] when running the installer in a kvm window, what's the magic to drop to one of the tty consoles? [20:30] ALT+F$NUMBER [20:30] just don't press cntrl [20:30] if you are on a graphical environment then it probably won't work [20:31] nxvl: cool, thanks dude [20:31] nxvl, alt+ctrl+FNUMBER in graphical enviornments [20:32] NCommander: yes, but if you do that in a KVM you will see your machines tty, but the vm one [20:32] oh [20:32] * NCommander shoots himself in the foot then :-) [20:33] nxvl, I think you can change the key combination so it doesn't conflict between the kvm and the host [20:34] yeah maybe, but a quick solution is that one [20:34] :D === n-iCe_ is now known as n-iCe [20:42] you can open kvm's 'terminal' and send any key combination you desire [20:45] ivoks: Did you see that new scripts that I got lamont to add to postfix for adding services to master.cf? [20:45] ScottK: no, i've been busy with exams last couple of weeks [20:45] ivoks: I think we can integrate amavisd-new via that and postconf now. [20:45] So we could automate it without any policy problem. [20:45] i do recall that lamont never respond on sasl questions :D [20:46] ScottK: we should have a conversation about what do we want enabled in amavis by default... [20:47] kirkland: IIRC I had to disable some shortcuts in Gnome in order to be able to use ALT+NUMBER in vnc. [20:48] mathiaz: it works, if i give the kvm window my keyboard/mouse [20:48] ivoks: Yes. Note that clamav and spamassassin are now in Main. [20:50] i've noticed that, good job [20:51] Greetings... any ubuntu docs for krb5 config? [20:54] take care guyz [21:13] !seen cjwatson [21:13] I have no seen command [21:13] fine! [21:36] I'm used to running Debian as my server. My ISP gave me a choice when upgrading to my new server to go with ubuntu server. QUESTION: Does anyone see any reason why I should stay running with Debian Etch instead of Ubuntu server? [21:39] how can i set the preseed.cfg to ask for the computer name? it's the only thing i actually want it to ask [21:41] Goosemoose, I would assume you would just not specify one and it should ask for , right? [21:41] thats what i thought [21:41] but instead it tells me the "" is an invalid name [21:41] I commented out #d-i netcfg/get_hostname string unassigned-hostname [21:42] Goosemoose, remove the entire line... don't just leave it blank. [21:42] it's commented out, that's the same as removing it [21:42] Goosemoose, otherwise you would specifiying a null name. [21:42] right? [21:42] Goosemoose, yes, sorry, so even if you comment it out it is still saying "" invalid name? [21:42] yes [21:43] to be exact [21:43] The name "" is invalid [21:43] Goosemoose, hmmm I'm out of my league here, buddy. Maybe there is someone else here with more experience with it. [21:44] doesn't seem to be anyone else alive [21:44] thanks though [21:44] Goosemoose, welcome :-) [21:45] Goosemoose, maybe you cna help me? [21:45] Goosemoose, I'm used to running Debian as my server. My ISP gave me a choice when upgrading to my new server to go with ubuntu server. QUESTION: Does anyone see any reason why I should stay running with Debian Etch instead of Ubuntu server? [21:45] What are you serving? [21:45] Basic sites? [21:45] Goosemoose, just basic lamp server [21:45] Strange to use ubuntu for a lamp server [21:45] usually they use CentOS or something [21:45] not going to be a big difference [21:46] Goosemoose, I'ma debian guy, not a redhat guy, so centos would be having to learn something else... [21:47] ubuntu and debian are very similar [21:47] from my experience [21:48] Goosemoose, which is why I thought it would not be a bad idea to switch.. If ubuntu-server gives me more support or something, I would probably consider it.. [21:48] its usually pretty quiet in here [22:29] how to install a standalone .deb package including dependencies (found in repos) [22:29] ? [23:02] bump