[00:53] <AlexGC> good evening gentlemen
[00:59]  * owh looks around, no, lots of sun around here, no evening anywhere :)
[01:02] <AlexGC> true its GMT relative
[01:02] <AlexGC> :)
[01:03] <AlexGC> I just finished a server install and have two issues, I cant reboot since I need to be a super user. and don't know the password.
[01:03] <AlexGC> I was told a comand before, but can't remember
[01:03] <owh> AlexGC: So, let me get this straight, you installed ubuntu-server, but you don't know the password?
[01:03] <owh> Or are you talking about the "root" password?
[01:04] <AlexGC> yeah sorry, root password
[01:04] <owh> Riight. That I can help you with.
[01:04] <AlexGC> :)
[01:04] <owh> There is no root password.
[01:04] <owh> But...
[01:04] <owh> You can use sudo to do root things.
[01:05] <owh> So, you can type sudo reboot
[01:05] <owh> and it will prompt you for your administrator password.
[01:05] <owh> Magic :)
[01:05] <skep> or sudo su + passwd
[01:05] <AlexGC> and type in mine.
[01:05] <AlexGC> Cool.
[01:05] <owh> We don't use a root user in ubuntu if we can help it.
[01:05] <owh> Well, that's not strictly true :)
[01:06] <AlexGC> Thanks! it worked
[01:06] <owh> skep: A quicker way to do what you suggest is sudo -s
[01:06] <skep> we? one of my first actions after installing (*)ubuntu is to activate the root account and set a password ;)
[01:06] <owh> AlexGC: Of course you could just have pressed CTRL-ALT-DELETE :)
[01:06] <owh> skep: That is not a ubuntu recommended process.
[01:06] <AlexGC> true.. lol
[01:09] <skep> recommended or not.. i prefer it this way..so it feels more like debian to me
[01:09] <owh> skep: That's a personal preference.
[01:09] <skep> yes
[01:11] <owh> AlexGC: Here is why: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:22] <AlexGC> oh let me give it a read, thanks
[01:37] <guiless> how do I change the home folder of a user?
[01:39] <hads> I'm unsure if there's a utility that handles it. You can `sudo vipw` and change it though.
[01:41] <skep> guiless: check out the usermod command
[01:42] <guiless> hads: I typed 'sudo vipw' and now I can't figure out how to exit it
[01:42] <guiless> o.o
[01:43] <hads> Ah okay, bad idea then.
[01:43] <hads> :q
[01:43] <guiless> how to exit and not save changes?
[01:43] <hads> :q!
[01:43] <hads> What skep said is a much more refined way of doing things.
[01:43] <guiless> i'll do so when i manage to get out of this screen
[01:44] <hads> Press ESC
[01:44] <guiless> nothing happened
[01:44] <hads> Then enter :q!
[01:44] <guiless> nope
[01:44] <skep> works for me (:q!)
[01:44] <guiless> i tried ctrl+x and ctrl+c as well
[01:45] <guiless> mine just beeps at me when i press things
[01:45] <guiless> it says recording at the bottom
[01:45] <guiless> ctrl+z exited for some reason
[01:45] <hads> Well, it didn't it just stopped vim
[01:46] <guiless> that's fine by me lol
[01:46] <hads> You can type fg to get it back
[01:46] <guiless> i like nano
[01:46] <guiless> vim scares me
[01:46] <skep> guiless: press q one time and then :q! if you see the "recording" line
[01:47] <guiless> how do i edit that same file with nano?
[01:47] <hads> My fault for leading you astray. Use the usermod command as skep suggested.
[01:48] <hads> But you should also make sure that vim isn't still editing your passwd
[01:48] <guiless> i should do that even though the file i edited has a bunch of random characters typed in the user path for the user i want to edit?
[01:48] <hads> Typing `jobs` will tell you if your vipw command is still running.
[01:49] <guiless> meh, i just rebooted
[01:50] <hads> Use that hammer.
[01:50] <guiless> lol
[01:56] <guiless> hmm
[01:56] <guiless> I have vsftpd configured to allow connections from local users
[01:57] <guiless> but when a user connects via nautilus, they aren't sent to their home folder
[01:57] <guiless> they go to /
[01:57] <guiless> how can i restrict that?
[03:36] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #267980 in openssh (main) "scp cannot quoted filenames with "]"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267980
[03:38] <vk5foss> is that supprising?
[04:22] <NCommander> ScottK, looks like success
[04:23] <NCommander> ScottK, building now
[04:23] <NCommander> ScottK, mind opening a bug for me?
[04:46] <kirkland> nealmcb: thanks for the compliments, dude ;-)
[08:24] <nandersson> Hi, how many ppl usually attend a Ubuntu Developer Summit? 300? 500? 700?
[08:32] <soren> Oh, no, not that many.
[08:33] <soren> I'd say more like 100 or thereabouts.
[08:35] <kgoetz> wow. thats small
[08:35] <soren> That's what she said :(
[08:35] <kgoetz> :(
[08:35] <kgoetz> hehe
[08:36] <nandersson> soren, Ok, thank you very much :)
[08:37] <soren> I think the UDS at Mountain View last time was larger, though, I think.
[08:40] <nandersson> UDS in december will not be the first time Google hosts a UDS-event right?
[08:40] <kgoetz> correct.
[08:40] <soren> nandersson: Right. They hosted it two years ago as well.
[08:40] <soren> nandersson: That must have been the UDS where we planned for....
[08:40] <soren> err...
[08:41] <soren> feisty, I think.
[08:41] <soren> Yes, it must have been.
[08:41] <nandersson> soren, :-) Thank you very much. I'm writing for Swedish TechWorld Open Source and I'm putting together a blog post
[08:41] <soren> nandersson: Oh, cool.
[08:42] <nandersson> Very interesting with these "weblications"
[08:42] <kgoetz> soren: watch out, anything you say will be used in evidence against you :P
[08:42] <nandersson> haha
[08:42] <nandersson> Nah, I'm just after some background information
[08:45] <soren> :)
[08:46] <soren> nandersson: Feel free to ask. I'm happy to help.
[08:57] <kgoetz> afk. have a good interview ;)
[09:48] <owh> soren: Is the location for the next UDS known, I mean, the one after the coming one, so the next-next one if you like :)
[09:57] <skep> owh: you might ask in #ubuntu-devel-summit , although i doin't think the next ones are known
[09:57] <owh> skep: Tah
[10:24] <mehdi> hello
[10:25] <jussi01> hi mehdi :) Try here :)
[10:25] <mehdi> thx
[10:25] <owh> mehdi: Welcome to the Ubuntu-server helpdesk. How may we direct your call today?
[10:25] <owh> :)
[10:26] <mehdi> i would like use vhost with apache2
[10:26] <skep> and your problem is?
[10:26] <mehdi> i make 2 files in etc/apache2/site en
[10:27] <mehdi> a make link with a2ensite
[10:27] <mehdi> when a reload apache
[10:27] <mehdi> i have
[10:27] <mehdi>  /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[10:27] <mehdi>  * Reloading web server config apache2 [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80, the first has precedence
[10:27] <mehdi>  [warn] NameVirtualHost myip:0 has no VirtualHosts
[10:30] <mehdi> do you mean it's better if a try  to make my vhost in default file /etc/apache2/site-enabled
[10:31] <owh> mehdi: I believe that it's telling you that your two sites have definitions that are the same.
[10:31] <mehdi> where i can change a definition ?
[10:32] <skep> mehdi: first of all..your config files are in /sites-availabe and your symlinks in /site-enabled,,
[10:32] <owh> mehdi: Have a read of this: http://www.heavymind.net/2007/07/25/virtualhosts-nightmare-on-suse/
[10:32] <skep> do you have a NameVirtualHost *:80 line in your files
[10:35] <owh> mehdi: What skep is saying is correct. The URL I showed you explains why.
[10:35] <soren> owh: I doubt it. Although, there's a tendency to alternate between Europe and North America, so "somewhere in Europe" seems likely.
[10:36] <mehdi> ok i find some thing in apache2.conf i have now a different message
[10:37] <mehdi> * Reloading web server config apache2                                          [Tue Sep 09 11:44:56 2008] [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80, the first has precedence
[10:37] <owh> soren: Tah
[10:38] <mehdi> yes
[10:38] <mehdi> i have
[10:39] <skep> mehdi: and your default vhost-file (the one that comes with apache2 install) is deactivated?
[10:40] <skep> and just to claraify..you have 3 chost files starting with "NameVirtualHost *:80" and <Virtualhost *:80> ..?
[10:40] <skep> *clarify
[10:40] <mehdi> yes
[10:40] <mehdi> i have default and vhost1 and Vhost2
[10:41] <mehdi> i can use 1 files?
[10:42] <skep> of course you can also put all vhosts in one file
[10:43] <owh> mehdi: The disadvantage of that is you cannot disable them individually, but it will work.
[10:46] <skep> what happens if you remove the line "NameVirtualHost *:80 from vhost1 and vhost2?
[10:51] <skep> mehdi: ok..sorry..was confused..still morning here ;-)  ..go to /etc/apache2/conf.d/ and create a file called: virtual.conf and put this line into it: NameVirtualHost *  ...then delete in your vhost files the first line ("NameVirtualHost *:80") and change the next line just to <VirtualHost *> (without the :80)..in case you don't have one site listen on 443
[10:52] <mehdi> i try
[10:52] <skep> although I think you don't need to remove the *:80 part there..
[11:03] <andriijas> how do i make a iptables script launch on boot , the easiest way?
[11:05] <mok0> andriijas: good question, I want to know myself...
[11:07] <mok0> andriijas: look in /etc/uwf
[11:11] <andriijas> mok0: i just need to change no to yes in ufw.conf?
[11:12] <mok0>   andriijas, well that will start the firewall with the pre-defined rules...
[11:12] <andriijas> which are the predfined rules? thers lots of files in /etc/ufw
[11:13] <mok0> andriijas: Those are the ones, yes. I am no expert on this system though
[11:14] <skep> mehdi: did it work?
[11:14] <mok0> andriijas: the script to start the whole thing is in /etc/init.d/ufw
[11:16] <mok0> andriijas: unless there is a writeup of the ufw, you need to study both the rules, and how they are started to understand how it works
[11:17] <andriijas> nice
[11:17] <andriijas> thx
[11:28] <mehdi> Ola
[11:29] <mehdi> sorry many probleme
[11:29] <mehdi> now
[11:29] <mehdi> apache don't say nothing just OK
[11:29] <mehdi> but i have it's work
[11:29] <mehdi> i loose my main page
[11:30] <mehdi> it's possible to copy somewhere my default conf
[11:30] <mehdi> like this you can see
[11:33] <skep> mehdi http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:37] <mehdi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/44858/
[11:40] <skep> uhm..maybe i'm completely on the wrong track here, but don't the Directory stuff belong *inside* the <Virtualhost>...</Virtualhost>???
[11:40] <skep> i haven't seen such a setup (outside) before
[11:41] <skep> and the first directive is wrong..it starts with <\..> and ends with <...> ,should be the other way around
[11:43] <mehdi> ok
[11:46] <skep> so to sum up: you should put on (or more) <Directory /path/to/directoy>...</Directory> inside each <Virtualhost *:80>..</VirtualHost> part, depending on your actual setup..and then it should work..
[11:46] <skep> *put one
[11:47] <skep> same with the rest (ErrorLog, Alias ect)
[11:55] <mehdi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/44863/ like this
[11:56] <skep> um..no..
[11:56] <mehdi> a
[11:56] <mehdi> can you give me post exemple please
[11:56] <skep> one second
[11:57] <mehdi> thx
[11:59] <skep> http://paste.ubuntu.com/44865/
[11:59] <incorrect> first bit of advise, put each vhost config into separate files, second, everything goes inside the <VirtualHost Entry> third, remove the doc / cgi config  forth,  use ServerName for each vhost,  move NameServer into ports.conf
[12:00] <incorrect> i found the server guide for intrepid,  I wanted to review the ldap replication info
[12:04] <mehdi> ok
[12:04] <skep> mehdi: if you don't know what all the lines inside the directoy directive mean..please read that up on apache.org or other sites...let alone for security reasons
[12:05] <mehdi> i have a message
[12:06] <mehdi> [Tue Sep 09 13:13:35 2008] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[12:06] <mehdi> httpd (pid 10645) already running
[12:06] <incorrect> mehdi, sigh, you didn't create the nameserver entry did you
[12:06] <incorrect> by default you get *
[12:07] <incorrect> i suggest you create NameVirtualHost *:80, and put it in ports.conf
[12:07] <incorrect> next to the line that says listen 80
[12:08] <kgoetz> incorrect: why put it in ports.conf?
[12:08] <incorrect> also you might find  'apache2ctl -t' handy
[12:08] <incorrect> kgoetz, well its a fairly sensible place to put it,  its pretty dumb to put it in the vhost config if you have more than one vhost,
[12:09] <incorrect> you will get loads of warnings
[12:09] <skep> you can put in in any file in conf.d afaik
[12:09] <skep> i for example have it in virtual.conf (in conf.d)
[12:09] <incorrect> Listen 80 NameVirtualHost *:80 is sensible
[12:09]  * kgoetz cant remember how his are setup, and isnt bothering to check *g*
[12:10] <incorrect> this way you have one place to check that you remembered to tell apache to listen on that port and you declared the virtual host entry for it
[12:10] <skep> in ports.conf i only have my port settings for 80 and 443 and in virtual.conf * (instead of *:80)
[12:11] <incorrect> additional overhead, i am lazy
[12:11] <skep> :-)
[12:11] <incorrect> you can even wrap you nameserver entry with your ssl if clauses
[12:11] <skep> everyone as he/she likes :)
[12:12] <incorrect> i think its pretty bad that by default its in the default vhost
[12:12] <skep> true
[12:12] <skep> well..not really bad, but confusing
[12:12] <incorrect> confusing is bad
[12:13] <skep> apache 1.3 was really confusing..v2 is much better and cleaner..
[12:13] <incorrect> sendmail is really confusing
[12:13] <hads> heh
[12:13] <skep> haha
[12:15] <incorrect> i've lost my link to the server docs for intrepid,   can someone point me in the right direction
[12:16] <hads> The server guide? If so it's the tinyurl in the topic.
[12:16] <incorrect> intrepid
[12:16] <hads> My bad
[12:16] <incorrect> i am after the ldap replication info
[12:16] <hads> Past my bed time
[12:16] <skep> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/IntrepidServerGuide
[12:17] <skep> well..quiet empty..and edubuntu..
[12:17] <skep> *quite
[12:18] <skep> so the tinyurl is the best one
[12:34] <spiekey> Hello!
[12:34] <spiekey> soren: you there? :)
[12:38] <spiekey> well,maybe someone else knows....
[12:38] <spiekey> i am failing to build lighttpd: http://pastebin.com/m2a6421c2
[12:38] <spiekey> it cant find lua.h for some reason :-/
[12:40] <soren> I need more context. Specifically the 5-10 lines that lead up to "mod_magnet_cache.h:8:17: error: lua.h: No such file or directory"
[12:42] <spiekey> better? http://pastebin.com/m1909b0d7
[12:43]  * soren looks
[12:43] <spiekey> thanks
[12:43] <soren> Yes, that's much better.
[12:44] <soren> As you can see, the gcc commandline does not include a "-I/usr/include/lua5.1/"
[12:44] <soren> I'm not sure why, though.
[12:44] <soren> Which version of lighty is this?
[12:44] <spiekey> lighttpd-1.4.19
[12:47] <soren> spiekey: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16408327/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.lighttpd_1.4.19-4ubuntu2_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[12:48] <soren> spiekey: We pass --with-lua=5.1
[12:48] <CrummyGummy> Hello, Last night I upgraded my server to hardy and now my subjects in postfix are coming through like Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?B?U1BPVDogQWxhcm0gYWN0aXZhdGVkIG9uIEZsdWZmeSBAIDIwMDgvMDkvMDkgMDE6NDE6NDMgUE0=?= Any idea what could be causing this?
[12:48] <soren> Does that work for you?
[12:48] <soren> I doubt postfix started rewriting subject lines.
[12:49] <CrummyGummy> Agreed. Its seems to be somethign to do with the encoding.
[12:49] <soren> What kind of content filtering do you have? spam and/or virus filtering?
[12:49] <soren> Did you by any chance change your e-mail client as well?
[12:50] <CrummyGummy> The client changed nothing. I just ran an upgrade. I have a python filter that manipulates emails coming in, thats where I noticed the problem.
[12:51] <CrummyGummy> The =?WINDOWS-1252? is the encoding being used.
[12:51] <spiekey> soren: nope :-/ http://pastebin.com/m38268fee
[12:51] <CrummyGummy> THis changes with the encoding.
[12:53] <soren> CrummyGummy: yes. And that's the correct way to specify your encoding.
[12:53] <soren> CrummyGummy: Are you entirely positive that this was not the case before? Where are these mails coming from?
[12:55] <CrummyGummy> Yes, I can see it in my mail logs. Last night subject was readable and then it was unreadable. The mail is comeing from some sort of client app.
[12:55] <CrummyGummy> I'm not sure. It works find from kmail.
[12:55] <soren> I think you're barking up the wrong tree with postfix, to be honest.
[12:55] <soren> I'd look elsewhere.
[12:56] <soren> postfix has never been in the habit of modifying subject lines, as far as I know.
[12:57] <CrummyGummy> hmmm, maybe I need to work out how to decode this in python.
[12:59] <CrummyGummy> Is there a package with codepages that may not have been installed properly?
[13:05] <soren> i can't think of any, no.
[13:05] <soren> 7win 21
[13:05] <soren> Gah
[13:07] <CrummyGummy> hmmm, lemme see if the postfix guys ahve a clue.
[13:12]  * CrummyGummy is getting the client to send plain text, no punctuations.
[13:50] <spiekey> soren: any further ideas?
[13:53] <spiekey> argh! i had something in my env variables!! )(/()/(/&/(&$&%§&$%§&
[13:53] <spiekey> thanks anyway
[13:54] <_ruben> hrm .. i delete a (hardware) raid array and created a larger one, but didnt wipe the disks, so the gpt sig is still there and wrong .. parted crashes when it tries to fix it :/
[14:09] <soren> _ruben: Wipe it?
[14:11] <soren> _ruben: Not all of the disk, just the parts where the GPT resides (probably the first few kb of the disk should suffice).
[14:12] <_ruben> soren: thats what im looking into now .. but i think its at the old end of the 'disk', if i read the errors correctly .. currently rebooting the box .. will doublecheck
[14:15] <_ruben> ah .. the *backup* gpt table isnt at the end of the disk .. lets wipe the first few bits :)
[14:17] <_ruben> yay .. fixed .. wonder if i could've just done mklabel without wiping first .. it was print that was complaining :p
[14:23] <didrocks> jdstrand: if you want, I can help you to backport ufw and iptables in hardy (I do not know the procedure yet, but I have currently the time to do it)
[14:28] <jdstrand> mok0: re ufw> see 'man ufw' and https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html
[14:29] <mok0> jdstrand: hey thanks!
[14:29] <jdstrand> didrocks: sure, go for it :) Keep in mind, iptables backport will likely not be straightforward
[14:31] <didrocks> jdstrand: it will be a good experiment for my first backport :)
[14:32] <didrocks> I think this is the good entry point: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Backport%20Process ?
[14:33]  * jdstrand nods
[14:35] <jdstrand> sommer: your changes to ufw docs look great! :)
[14:35] <sommer> jdstrand: party!
[14:35] <incorrect> hmm i wrote a detailed setup for bonding,  now i can't find it
[15:51] <nijaba> server community meeting in 10' -> #ubuntu-meeting
[15:54] <mathiaz> kirkland: hm - update-motd is still in universe.
[15:54] <mathiaz> kirkland: do you have a MIR for it ?
[15:54] <kirkland> mathiaz: yes
[15:54] <mathiaz> kirkland: has the MIR been approved ?
[16:28] <stapel> I want to share a folder with samba to anyone readonly
[16:28] <stapel> can someone help with that please?
[16:29] <stapel> anyone???
[16:33] <ropetin> stapel: simply set the file level permissions of the files/folders in question to read only and you're good to go
[16:35] <stapel> if I try to connect from XP I get an error message when clicking on the ubuntu server hostname
[16:35] <ropetin> How did you set up the samba share?
[16:36] <stapel> I have deleted the smb.conf and started from scratch
[16:36] <stapel> only have two stanzas in there
[16:36] <stapel> [global]
[16:36] <stapel> [sharename]
[16:36] <stapel> in global i just set the workgroup - thats all
[16:37] <stapel> in [sharename] I just set path and comment
[16:37] <stapel> thats it
[16:38] <ropetin> OK, and did you set up a samba user to authenticate as?
[16:38] <stapel> don't think so...how can I check?
[16:39] <stapel> ...not really sure what u mean
[16:39] <stapel> is that the smbpasswd thing?
[16:39] <ropetin> My understanding (and I'm just a newbie, so don't blame me if I'm wrong!) is that samba has it's own users
[16:40] <stapel> ok
[16:40] <ropetin> Yes, smbpasswd
[16:40] <stapel> so how do I set up a samba user?
[16:41] <ropetin> If I remember rightly;
[16:41] <stapel> and will anyone automatically log in as this user then?
[16:41] <ropetin> sudo smbpasswd -a username
[16:41] <ropetin> then
[16:41] <ropetin> sudo smbpasswd -e username
[16:41] <ropetin> No, it won't be automatic
[16:42] <stapel> ok, let me give that a go quickly
[16:45] <stapel> okay, I have done that...so how do i tell samba that i want all users to log on as this user?
[16:51] <stapel> any idea how to proceed from there?
[17:47] <themime> i want to install mod_proxy into apache.  apache was either installed via apt-get or at install time (same thing i guess right?).  so my understanding is that the best solution is having the module recompiled into apache.  but i don't have the source, and i want to keep the package intact, so im not sure how about going about this.  suggestions?
[18:31] <themime> had to change locations, did someone answer my question by chance (about mod_proxy).   for now i actually just used a2enmod, but as i understand just "enables" it, it doesn't compile it in
[18:35] <sommer> themime: why do you want to "compile it in"?  the module is already compiled
[18:39] <Goosemoose> anyone know what avahi's purpose is since it's preventing my machines from joining an AD domain?
[18:41] <Goosemoose> ok i actually found another solution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/80900/comments/26
[18:41] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 80900 in avahi "problems resolving fully qualified domain names in environments where .local is used as a TLD" [Medium,Confirmed]
[18:41] <Goosemoose> suggestion changing the nsswith.conf file
[18:42] <Goosemoose> tested and it works
[18:42] <Goosemoose> question is how do I work that in to a preseed?
[18:43] <NCommander> Goosemoose, what are you trying to do specifically?
[18:45] <Goosemoose> make 500 computers join an AD domain
[18:46] <Goosemoose> from the preseed.cfg file
[18:46] <Goosemoose> when they are being imaged using PXE over the network
[18:46] <NCommander> I haven't done much with preseeding
[18:46]  * NCommander checks what package owns nsswitch.conf
[18:47] <themime> sommer: its not really compiled in from my understanding, just loaded in?  if it doesn't make a difference i won't mess with it for now, although id like to know how to do it in the future.  but i think ill concentrate on figuring out how directives/configuring the module work first
[18:47] <Goosemoose> NCommander, thanks
[18:47] <n-iCe_> hello, how can I remove ubuntu-server to ask login in the startup
[18:48] <NCommander> n-iCe_, login as in?
[18:48] <themime> haha, fail
[18:48] <NCommander> themime, I'm really hoping he's not asking what I think he's asking
[18:48] <themime> i know, hence the fail
[18:49] <themime> lets address it seriously though rather than make fun of him, everyone has to start new sometime in their lives
[18:49] <NCommander> Goosemoose, I've never network deployed Debian or Ubuntu, but I do know preseed can run proper commands, you could do something like cat <<- EOF *contents of nsswtich* > /etc/nsswitch.conf
[18:49] <NCommander> Or something like that
[18:49] <NCommander> s/proper/shell/g
[18:49] <themime> n-iCe_: in all seriousness, the login at startup is a security thing, removing it basically negates a large chunk of the security
[18:49] <Goosemoose> hmm ok, guess ill need to look at the late command some more, thanks
[18:50] <themime> n-iCe_: I'm assuming you mean the login prompt with a monitor/keyboard plugged in, ie the graphical one.  If this is a case there is a way to do it, but then I have to ask, why are you using the server version?
[18:51] <sommer> themime: it doesn't make any difference, and to "compile it in" would mean you'd have to recompile apache... and wouldn't really make much sense to me
[18:51] <sommer> themime: the advantage of a module is that you can load and unload it as needed
[18:52] <themime> sommer: i know apache would have to be recompiled.  i mean as of right now, i guess I'm set and can start looking into how configuring modules work, but just for my own curiosuity I'd like to know how to compile them in after having apt-get'd it in the first place.  but ill leave that for another day.
[18:53] <NCommander> themime, you can compile a package from source with apt-get -b source *package*
[18:53] <NCommander> (that will grab the source package and generate the debs)
[18:54] <themime> NCommander: well, in this case we're talking about a module for apache.  the only one i saw that was what i wanted was proxy_html, but i need mod_proxy and mod_proxy_http (which i a2enmod'd in anyway, so its not a big deal right now).  now i need to find some good docs for configuring it
[18:55] <NCommander> themime, grab the module source, then use apxs to install and configure it against Ubuntu's apache
[18:55] <themime> oh, so thats what apxs does
[18:55] <NCommander> themime, libapache2-mod-proxy-html - Apache2 filter module for HTML links rewriting
[18:55] <NCommander> Or just install the Ubuntu package
[18:56] <themime> thats the one i saw, but it looked like a sub package of proxy, not the full deal, but i may be wrong
[18:56] <themime> NCommander: what do you mean "just install the ubuntu package" - just to make sure i understand you correctly, you just mean apt-get install libapache2-modetcetc?
[18:56] <NCommander> themime, no, apt-get install libapache2-mod-proxy-html
[18:57] <NCommander> which will properly add the module to the default config
[18:57] <NCommander> Oh
[18:57] <NCommander> Yeah
[18:57] <themime> hehe
[18:58] <themime> was too lazy to type it all out.  oh well, for now, i have them loaded, so ill maybe mess with compiling them in later.  thanks for the info
[18:58] <themime> any good links to configuring modules/how directives work?  or should i just use the basic apache docs?
[18:59] <n-iCe_> uhm
[19:00] <themime> n-iCe_: scroll up, we responded
[19:00] <n-iCe_> yeah im reading jiji, my grandmother called me
[19:00] <n-iCe_> ok
[19:00] <themime> np
[19:01] <n-iCe_> I use it, because I set up some psybnc's eggdrops, etc, but when the power wents off, the pc restarts but can't start again, because asks my login
[19:02] <Goosemoose> question. with my windows machines i can 'push' new programs out across my domain when I need to using various methods. How would I do this with my ubuntu machines?
[19:02] <Goosemoose> for example push an OO.org update? or a new program
[19:04] <themime> directives are just placed in the httpd.conf, correct?  (or whatever equivilent is, i use apache 1.3 with centos/rh at work so it may different with apache2.2/ubuntu)
[19:04] <themime> or .htaccess i suppose would be safer
[19:15] <themime> in order to utilize mod_proxy, does an underlying script have to be running?  something tells me it just doesn't magically start acting as a forward proxy, the URL you want has to go somewhere, i can't find information on this
[19:18] <themime> im starting to think it does.  there needs to be something to handle the http requests, does thats sound accurate?
[19:24] <Goosemoose> for a script using the late_command, i don't need to use sudo because it's already running as root correct?
[19:25] <ScottK> sommer: Any chance you could look into php-clamavlib with clamav 0.94?  In Intrepid it seems to have both a libtool problem and a clamav intregration problem.
[19:26] <soren> Goosemoose: Yes.
[19:26] <Goosemoose> ok thanks
[19:32] <sommer> ScottK: ya, briefly took a look at that this weekend... weren't we dropping php-clamavlib for intrepid, since it's dead upstream?
[19:33] <ScottK> sommer: We can, but at long as it's working, there's no solid reason to dump it.
[19:33] <sommer> well... isn't it not working?
[19:34] <ScottK> sommer: Not at the moment, but if you could fix it again ....
[19:35] <sommer> ScottK: not sure how much time I'll have to devote to that, especially in for the life of the next release
[19:35] <sommer> ScottK: I'd really recommend dropping it
[19:36] <ScottK> sommer: OK.  Let's give it a bit to see if Debian comes up with anything.
[19:36] <sommer> ScottK: sounds like a plan :-)
[19:36] <NCommander> hey ScottK, I posted the debdiff for 3.5.9/3.5.10
[19:36] <NCommander> er, sorry, wrong room
[19:37] <ScottK> NCommander: You want join #kubuntu-devel
[20:11]  * delcoyote hi
[20:12] <davidt> hi
[20:29] <kirkland> when running the installer in a kvm window, what's the magic to drop to one of the tty consoles?
[20:30] <nxvl> ALT+F$NUMBER
[20:30] <nxvl> just don't press cntrl
[20:30] <nxvl> if you are on a graphical environment then it probably won't work
[20:31] <kirkland> nxvl: cool, thanks dude
[20:31] <NCommander> nxvl, alt+ctrl+FNUMBER in graphical enviornments
[20:32] <nxvl> NCommander: yes, but if you do that in a KVM you will see your machines tty, but the vm one
[20:32] <NCommander> oh
[20:32]  * NCommander shoots himself in the foot then :-)
[20:33] <NCommander> nxvl, I think you can change the key combination so it doesn't conflict between the kvm and the host
[20:34] <nxvl> yeah maybe, but a quick solution is that one
[20:34] <nxvl> :D
[20:42] <ivoks> you can open kvm's 'terminal' and send any key combination you desire
[20:45] <ScottK> ivoks: Did you see that new scripts that I got lamont to add to postfix for adding services to master.cf?
[20:45] <ivoks> ScottK: no, i've been busy with exams last couple of weeks
[20:45] <ScottK> ivoks: I think we can integrate amavisd-new via that and postconf now.
[20:45] <ScottK> So we could automate it without any policy problem.
[20:45] <ivoks> i do recall that lamont never respond on sasl questions :D
[20:46] <ivoks> ScottK: we should have a conversation about what do we want enabled in amavis by default...
[20:47] <mathiaz> kirkland: IIRC I had to disable some shortcuts in Gnome in order to be able to use ALT+NUMBER in vnc.
[20:48] <kirkland> mathiaz: it works, if i give the kvm window my keyboard/mouse
[20:48] <ScottK> ivoks: Yes.  Note that clamav and spamassassin are now in Main.
[20:50] <ivoks> i've noticed that, good job
[20:51] <Fenix|work> Greetings... any ubuntu docs for krb5 config?
[20:54] <ivoks> take care guyz
[21:13] <Goosemoose> !seen cjwatson
[21:13] <Goosemoose> fine!
[21:36] <fbc> I'm used to running Debian as my server. My ISP gave me a choice when upgrading to my new server to go with ubuntu server. QUESTION: Does anyone see any reason why I should stay running with Debian Etch instead of Ubuntu server?
[21:39] <Goosemoose> how can i set the preseed.cfg to ask for the computer name? it's the only thing i actually want it to ask
[21:41] <fbc> Goosemoose, I would assume you would just not specify one and it should ask for , right?
[21:41] <Goosemoose> thats what i thought
[21:41] <Goosemoose> but instead it tells me the "" is an invalid name
[21:41] <Goosemoose> I commented out #d-i netcfg/get_hostname string unassigned-hostname
[21:42] <fbc> Goosemoose, remove the entire line... don't just leave it blank.
[21:42] <Goosemoose> it's commented out, that's the same as removing it
[21:42] <fbc> Goosemoose, otherwise you would specifiying a null name.
[21:42] <Goosemoose> right?
[21:42] <fbc> Goosemoose, yes, sorry, so even if you comment it out it is still saying "" invalid name?
[21:42] <Goosemoose> yes
[21:43] <Goosemoose> to be exact
[21:43] <Goosemoose> The name "" is invalid
[21:43] <fbc> Goosemoose, hmmm I'm out of my league here, buddy. Maybe there is someone else here with more experience with it.
[21:44] <Goosemoose> doesn't seem to be anyone else alive
[21:44] <Goosemoose> thanks though
[21:44] <fbc> Goosemoose, welcome :-)
[21:45] <fbc> Goosemoose, maybe you cna help me?
[21:45] <fbc> Goosemoose, I'm used to running Debian as my server. My ISP gave me a choice when upgrading to my new server to go with ubuntu server. QUESTION: Does anyone see any reason why I should stay running with Debian Etch instead of Ubuntu server?
[21:45] <Goosemoose> What are you serving?
[21:45] <Goosemoose> Basic sites?
[21:45] <fbc> Goosemoose, just basic lamp server
[21:45] <Goosemoose> Strange to use ubuntu for a lamp server
[21:45] <Goosemoose> usually they use CentOS or something
[21:45] <Goosemoose> not going to be a big difference
[21:46] <fbc> Goosemoose, I'ma debian guy, not a redhat guy, so centos would be having to learn something else...
[21:47] <Goosemoose> ubuntu and debian are very similar
[21:47] <Goosemoose> from my experience
[21:48] <fbc> Goosemoose, which is why I thought it would not be a bad idea to switch.. If ubuntu-server gives me more support or something, I would probably consider it..
[21:48] <Goosemoose> its usually pretty quiet in here
[22:29] <tristanbob_> how to install a standalone .deb package including dependencies (found in repos)
[22:29] <tristanbob_> ?
[23:02] <tristanbob_> bump