tjaalton | bryce_: pong2 | 07:09 |
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bryce_ | heya | 07:13 |
bryce_ | tjaalton: Could you take a look at bug 267682? | 07:14 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 267682 in ubuntu "Hotkeys no longer working in Intrepid (evdev?)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267682 | 07:14 |
bryce_ | seems I had another question for you... hm | 07:14 |
bryce_ | eh can't think of it | 07:15 |
tjaalton | I looked at that yesterday, and I think g-p-m should catch those | 07:16 |
tjaalton | regardless of the driver X uses. but that's easy to test too | 07:16 |
bryce_ | today I decided to go downstairs and only take broken test hardware with me. It's been a good challenge, just staying online ;-) | 07:16 |
bryce_ | I've fleshed out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Quirks a good bit more | 07:17 |
tjaalton | hehe, I bet | 07:17 |
tjaalton | ^^ that was for the previous comment ;) | 07:17 |
tjaalton | I'll test my laptop once it reboots (damn dpms) | 07:18 |
tjaalton | lenovo X61, those hotkeys | 07:18 |
bryce_ | are you seeing freezes when the screensaver comes on too? | 07:22 |
tjaalton | it's when the display is put to sleep | 07:23 |
tjaalton | normal screensavers work | 07:23 |
tjaalton | I'm waiting for the new kernel.. | 07:23 |
bryce_ | hmm, I had a couple systems that were locking up (or blanking at least) when either the screensaver or power savings came on | 07:30 |
bryce_ | I switched off screensaver, and the lockups/blanks went away | 07:30 |
tjaalton | I just disabled the power-off | 07:30 |
bryce_ | however maybe disabling the screensaver also affected the dpms settings; not sure | 07:31 |
tjaalton | in power settings there's the slider "set the monitor in power save mode" or something like that | 07:31 |
tjaalton | put that in "never" | 07:31 |
bryce_ | yeah I may play around with that more later this week; I've got quite a laundry list of bugs for all this hardware... | 07:32 |
tjaalton | humm, I tried without input-hotplug, and my battery and hibernate hotkeys started working | 07:36 |
bryce_ | huh... Jaunty Jackalope | 08:03 |
bryce_ | well g'nite | 08:03 |
tjaalton | night:) | 08:03 |
tjaalton | seb128: about the nvidia-glx-173, update-manager is trying to install it here as well | 08:18 |
seb128 | tjaalton: ahah! | 08:18 |
tjaalton | something really is broken | 08:18 |
seb128 | tjaalton: does apt-get dist-upgrade do that too? | 08:18 |
tjaalton | let's see | 08:18 |
seb128 | grab mvo when he is around | 08:18 |
tjaalton | yes it does | 08:19 |
seb128 | good ;-) | 08:19 |
tjaalton | ok I won't upgrade before he shows up :) | 08:19 |
seb128 | thanks | 08:19 |
seb128__ | tjaalton: mvo is here ;-) | 08:46 |
tjaalton | seb128__: yeah! | 08:46 |
tjaalton | mvo: so, somehow we get nvidia-glx-173 installed, which breaks if you have intel, for instance | 08:47 |
tjaalton | um, breaks 3D | 08:47 |
tjaalton | mvo: same thing with update-manager and apt-get | 08:47 |
mvo | hello! | 08:48 |
mvo | what is the bugnumber? | 08:48 |
seb128__ | mvo: what is the apt magic to have the reason of why packages are installed displayed? | 08:48 |
mvo | -o debug::pkgDepCache::AutoInstall=true | 08:48 |
seb128__ | mvo: no bug number, just apt-get dist-upgrade on intrepid and note it in the list | 08:48 |
seb128__ | tjaalton: sudo apt-get -o debug::pkgDepCache::AutoInstall=true dist-upgrade and look in the log then I guess | 08:49 |
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mvo | tjaalton: there is also -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true if the autoinst doesn't give a hint | 08:53 |
tjaalton | mvo: I think I found the problem already.. nvidia-kernel-common Recommends nvidia-kernel-source, which pulls in nvidia-173-kernel-source, which pulls in nvidia-glx-173.. | 08:56 |
tjaalton | and I did the upload :) | 08:56 |
tjaalton | but I'm not sure if that Recommends was added there, will check | 08:56 |
seb128 | tjaalton: why is nvidia-kernel-common installed? | 08:57 |
tjaalton | seb128: l-r-m | 08:58 |
tjaalton | and yes, that Recommends was added in the latest version | 08:58 |
tjaalton | but not mentioned on the changelog | 08:59 |
tjaalton | I tend to use aptitude to find out why a package is installed | 09:00 |
seb128 | mvo: where are those debug options listed again? I tried the apt-get and apt.conf man but only the resolver option was listed there | 09:02 |
mvo | seb128: its not well documented, it should probably be added to the man-page (or to a new apt.debug page). its in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configuration-index | 09:02 |
seb128 | mvo: ah, I looked at the apt.conf example but not this one, thanks | 09:03 |
tjaalton | I'm surprised that there are no bugs reported about this.. it basically breaks 3D for everyone | 09:07 |
tjaalton | and the change was made in Debian, so tseliot is not to blame | 09:07 |
tjaalton | uh no | 09:08 |
seb128 | tjaalton: the change is recent and it breaks intel for intrepid users who updated since yesterday basically, that's probably not that many | 09:08 |
tjaalton | the Recommends has been there forever in debian, and dropped from our package in 16th Aug 06 | 09:09 |
tjaalton | so the merge is busted | 09:09 |
seb128 | who did it? | 09:09 |
tjaalton | tseliot | 09:09 |
tjaalton | I'll re-merge it | 09:09 |
seb128 | thanks | 09:09 |
tjaalton | but I kinda reviewed it :/ | 09:10 |
tjaalton | ah, there's a new debian version that removes the recommends | 09:11 |
tjaalton | tseliot: hey, the nvidi-kernel-common merge was broken.. it didn't include all our previous changes, most importantly it Recommends nvidia-kernel-source, which basically pulls nvidia-glx-173 for everyone and breaks 3D | 09:24 |
tjaalton | but, I missed that so I'll re-merge it | 09:24 |
tseliot | tjaalton: it wasn't finished. I wanted you to have a look at the merge. I have removed the recommends and completed the merge but I'm still not sure as to whether we still need that package in Ubuntu. | 09:25 |
tseliot | therefore I'm waiting a bit | 09:25 |
tjaalton | tseliot: ok, well it _was_ uploaded in saturday.. | 09:26 |
tseliot | tjaalton: what??? | 09:26 |
tjaalton | I'd prefer to review packages that are ready.. | 09:26 |
tjaalton | I thought it was | 09:26 |
tseliot | sorry about this | 09:26 |
tjaalton | no worries, I'll upload a new one shortly | 09:27 |
tseliot | next time I'll ask you explicitly to upload a new package if I wish you to do so | 09:27 |
tjaalton | yeah :) | 09:27 |
tjaalton | wgrant: I've uploaded a new synaptics to my PPA: http://ppa.launchpad.net/tjaalton/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xfree86-driver-synaptics/ | 11:19 |
tjaalton | wgrant: please test once it's built | 11:19 |
wgrant | tjaalton: Will do. | 11:28 |
wgrant | Has 0.15.1 actually been released? I saw that the version in git was bumped. | 11:28 |
tjaalton | yes, tarball was available | 11:29 |
wgrant | Ah. | 11:29 |
tjaalton | so I think it's released then :) | 11:29 |
wgrant | Have you dropped 101_ubuntu.diff? | 11:29 |
tjaalton | yes | 11:29 |
wgrant | Good. | 11:29 |
wgrant | So we should be almost syncable. | 11:29 |
wgrant | Brb, restarting X. | 11:29 |
tjaalton | it also has a couple of patches that should fix appletouch and ALPS | 11:30 |
tjaalton | slowness and narrow scrollregions | 11:30 |
wgrant | Hmm. | 11:33 |
wgrant | Edges are different. | 11:33 |
wgrant | Yep, I suggested that you look at them IIRC. | 11:33 |
wgrant | But otherwise this is pretty boring. | 11:33 |
wgrant | It all works :( | 11:33 |
tjaalton | heh | 11:33 |
tjaalton | the patches were directly from whot | 11:33 |
tjaalton | so they are not upstream yet | 11:34 |
tjaalton | they are in rawhide too | 11:34 |
wgrant | Oh, I thought the scrollregions one was. | 11:34 |
wgrant | I think my right scroll region might be slightly less ridiculously thin than it was with 1.5. | 11:35 |
tjaalton | hmm maybe the patches weren't for regions, but edges and some preprobe stuff | 11:36 |
tjaalton | anyway, nice that it works | 11:36 |
tjaalton | could you add something to bug 268071? | 11:37 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 268071 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Please accept xfree86-driver-synaptics 0.15.1-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268071 | 11:37 |
wgrant | Props seem to work fine. It's all fine. | 11:37 |
wgrant | Sure. | 11:37 |
tjaalton | great, thanks | 11:37 |
wgrant | tjaalton: Multi-finger tapping strangeness regression, possible due to the two-finger disentangling patch. | 12:49 |
wgrant | It seems to just make the cursor jump occasionally now. And two-finger tapping has ceased. | 12:49 |
tjaalton | drat.. | 12:50 |
wgrant | I can occasionally get it to work. But not often. | 12:55 |
wgrant | Hm. | 12:56 |
tjaalton | I could depatch that commit | 12:56 |
wgrant | It's definitely related to the MaxTapMove default change. | 12:57 |
tjaalton | or unpatch, whatever | 12:57 |
wgrant | As if I increase that it becomes a bit more likely to work. | 12:57 |
wgrant | But still nothing like it used to be. | 12:57 |
wgrant | I'll work out which commit/patch it was. | 12:57 |
tjaalton | cool, thanks | 12:57 |
tjaalton | I'll scratch my head with xkb-data again.. | 12:57 |
tjaalton | fails to build | 12:58 |
wgrant | Fun. | 12:58 |
tjaalton | update-po fails | 12:59 |
tjaalton | ah right, autoreconfig needed | 13:00 |
wgrant | tjaalton: Reverting 9f0da9 (the two-finger scrolling disentanglement commit) fixes it. | 13:17 |
tjaalton | wgrant: thanks, I'll add that to the package | 13:18 |
wgrant | I'm not sure how exactly that patch was going to help anything. | 13:21 |
wgrant | I do wish that the huge switch in HandleTapProcessing was commented at least slightly. | 13:22 |
wgrant | tjaalton: Which variety of synaptics-driven hardware do you have? | 13:32 |
tjaalton | wgrant: none :) | 13:33 |
wgrant | Oh. That is rather unfortunate. | 13:33 |
tjaalton | tell me about it.. although I could get a lenovo keyboard with a trackpad if I wanted to | 13:34 |
tjaalton | it's rather pricey though | 13:34 |
wgrant | Well, I'm generally available for testing if you need it. | 13:34 |
tjaalton | yep, good to know | 13:37 |
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bryce_ | morning | 18:07 |
tjaalton | hey bryce | 18:07 |
tjaalton | could you confirm bug 268055 and bug 268071 | 18:08 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 268055 in xorg-server "Please accept xorg-server 1.5.0-1ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268055 | 18:08 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 268071 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Please accept xfree86-driver-synaptics 0.15.1-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268071 | 18:08 |
bryce_ | sure, sec | 18:09 |
tjaalton | bryce_: I've now nearly finished the keyboard stuff, only gnome-settings-daemon left to be uploaded. it should be done last since otherwise people might have broken layouts for a while | 18:10 |
tjaalton | but in an hour or so | 18:10 |
tjaalton | hum, actually it takes a while for the publisher to catch up, so I'll upload it now | 18:10 |
bryce_ | tjaalton: excellent | 18:11 |
tjaalton | I skipped the paperwork with xkeyboard-config and didn't create a new tarball for it.. | 18:11 |
tjaalton | but for evdev I only pulled one commit, so no support for properties yet | 18:12 |
bryce_ | ok cool | 18:12 |
tjaalton | we don't even have 2.0.4, so having master versioned as 2.0.3 sounds a bit strange ;) | 18:13 |
tjaalton | but there should be 2.1 released this week | 18:13 |
bryce_ | I went through -intel quirks last night and will be pushing a bunch in today. Thinking about probably merging 2.4.2 too | 18:13 |
tjaalton | we have that already, only the version string is missing from 2.4.2 | 18:13 |
bryce_ | ahh, ok then; I'll just put my patches in | 18:14 |
bryce_ | just need to test to make sure quirking lvds does what it's supposed to do | 18:14 |
bryce_ | did you get a chance to upload xorg? If not I could tackle that. | 18:16 |
tjaalton | not before xorg-server is uploaded and all drivers rebuilt | 18:16 |
tjaalton | at least it's not usable before that | 18:17 |
tjaalton | because people couldn't upgrade | 18:17 |
tjaalton | I need to head home.. it's dark and wet, so will be a pleasant 10km ride with my bike | 18:18 |
tjaalton | later-> | 18:18 |
bryce_ | ok cya | 18:18 |
crevette | hey there | 21:52 |
crevette | keyboard layout detection seems to be broken | 21:53 |
tjaalton | nice | 21:53 |
crevette | AZERTY became QWERTY | 21:53 |
tjaalton | did you dist-upgrade? | 21:53 |
crevette | I used PackageKit to update | 21:54 |
crevette | the gnome applet reports USA layout | 21:54 |
tjaalton | what versions do you have of xkb-data, hal, xserver-xorg-input-evdev and gnome-settings-daemon? | 21:54 |
crevette | 1.3-1ubuntu2 - hal_0.5.11-3~ubuntu8_i386.deb - 1:2.0.3-2ubuntu1 - 2.23.92-0ubuntu1 | 21:56 |
tjaalton | hmh, xkb-data should've been updated | 21:57 |
tjaalton | also g-s-d is too old | 21:58 |
crevette | okay | 21:58 |
tjaalton | should be available at least on a.u.c | 22:00 |
crevette | tjaalton: I'm upgrading | 22:00 |
crevette | hoz Xorg detect keyboard layout? | 22:00 |
tjaalton | hm? | 22:01 |
jcristau | tjaalton: z -> w :) | 22:01 |
jcristau | crevette: it doesn't | 22:01 |
tjaalton | heh, right | 22:01 |
tjaalton | crevette: see /etc/default/console-setup | 22:01 |
crevette | qh okay | 22:02 |
tjaalton | and /usr/lib/hal/debian-setup-keyboard | 22:02 |
jcristau | i guess what happened there is that because of the older xkb-data, xkbcomp fails to create the map, so you get the default us | 22:02 |
tjaalton | yeah, I was just writing that :) | 22:03 |
crevette | let's restart X | 22:03 |
tjaalton | I couldn't decide which package needed to depend on which, so hoped that they'd get published in the correct order | 22:03 |
tjaalton | but since the first xkeyboard-config upload FTBFS'd | 22:03 |
tjaalton | .. | 22:03 |
jcristau | maybe new evdev Breaks old xkb-data, and new xkb-data Breaks old evdev, would work? | 22:04 |
crevette | by which component /usr/lib/hal/debian-setup-keyboard is executed ? | 22:04 |
jcristau | crevette: by hal, when it starts | 22:04 |
tjaalton | /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-x11-keymap.fdi | 22:04 |
crevette | okaym so I need to restart hal also | 22:05 |
tjaalton | no hal should be ok now | 22:05 |
tjaalton | already | 22:05 |
tjaalton | that's what broke it :) | 22:05 |
tjaalton | but running lshal |grep xkb should show you something like xkb.rules = 'evdev' | 22:06 |
tjaalton | restarting hal doesn't hurt though | 22:06 |
tjaalton | jcristau: yeah that would probably work. we'll see if I care enough to fix those :) | 22:08 |
tjaalton | don't think people would backport these | 22:09 |
jcristau | if you don't care about partial upgrades it's ok | 22:09 |
tjaalton | oh you mean if someone would only pull the new evdev? yeah, that would break | 22:10 |
tjaalton | hum | 22:10 |
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