| devfil | TheMuso: is a more complete patch that also remove services and adds another | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| devfil | I've prefered to upload only the bugfix patch | 00:00 |
| TheMuso | devfil: RIght. I must admit its hard to give a yes or no without a diff to look at somewhere... | 00:01 |
| Riddell | TheMuso: the diff is up | 00:01 |
| TheMuso | ok looking | 00:02 |
| TheMuso | alright ACKed in the bug. | 00:03 |
| devfil | good | 00:05 |
| devfil | Riddell, TheMuso: a member of italian community has caused me a head-cache in order to fix this :) | 00:06 |
| TheMuso | heh | 00:06 |
| devfil | TheMuso: also https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/ikiwiki/+bug/205811 needs to be reACKed? | 00:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 205811 in ikiwiki "Should depend on rather than recommend libhtml-scrubber-perl" [Medium,Confirmed] | 00:08 |
| Riddell | TheMuso: if you're in a motu-sru mood, bug 85266 needs an ack | 00:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 85266 in ngircd "ngircd refuses to start automatically through sysv init" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85266 | 00:12 |
| devfil | Riddell: thanks for the upload; TheMuso: thanks for the ACK | 00:14 |
| TheMuso | will get to those others in a bit. | 00:21 |
| emet | so how can I join MOTU? | 00:54 |
| pochu | !motu | 00:54 |
| ubottu | motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | 00:54 |
| pochu | emet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted | 00:55 |
| emet | pochu, thank you | 01:07 |
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| NCommander | cody-somerville: well, your getting your wish of testing of the xubuntu CD on amd64 on real metal | 04:36 |
| mcasadevall | I freaking fail | 05:37 |
| mcasadevall | My backup didn't properly write, so I lost most of my files | 05:37 |
| * mcasadevall did at the very least have a proper backup of his SSH and GPG keys | 05:37 | |
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| NCommander | cody-somerville, I found some issues with the CD on the plus side | 05:39 |
| ScottK | NCommander: I got your mail. That didn't fail. | 05:41 |
| NCommander | ScottK, heh, the last thing to escape my doomed system | 05:42 |
| * ScottK will see about uploading tomorrow. | 05:42 | |
| NCommander | I didn't at least loose TOO much. A few class notes, but everything else is replaceable | 05:42 |
| nellery | what command can be used to search the contents of a folder for a specific string? | 06:43 |
| persia | nellery: grep -r | 06:43 |
| nellery | persia, thanks | 06:43 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 06:58 |
| dholbach | crimsun is on fire | 07:02 |
| dholbach | he's been triaging ALL universe bugs, I swear | 07:02 |
| quadrispro | hi dholbach, I need an opinion :) | 07:05 |
| dholbach | quadrispro: just ask - I'm sure if you ask in here, you'll probably get more than mine :) | 07:06 |
| quadrispro | bug #257215 | 07:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 257215 in fop "Please add dependency on ant-optional" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/257215 | 07:06 |
| mdf | Hi folks, I just dput xca (xca_0.6.4-1_source.changes) and am soliciting reviewers/advocates | 07:08 |
| dholbach | quadrispro: I have no clue about ant, I'm sorry - not sure if I can help there | 07:09 |
| dholbach | Koon or doko might know how a bit more about bug 257215 | 07:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 257215 in fop "Please add dependency on ant-optional" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/257215 | 07:09 |
| dholbach | or the folks in #ubuntu-java | 07:09 |
| quadrispro | dholbach: oh thank you! and... can you take a look there? bug 268059 | 07:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 268059 in pygtkmvc "Please sync pygtkmvc 1.2.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268059 | 07:10 |
| dholbach | quadrispro: now I'm back on the internet (had no connection earlier today), I'll dive into the sponsoring queue and will take a look at a couple of items | 07:10 |
| quadrispro | dholbach: thank you! ;) | 07:11 |
| dholbach | quadrispro: it will need another +1 from motu-release | 07:19 |
| dholbach | quadrispro: I'll subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors so we can take care of it once it was Confirmed | 07:19 |
| quadrispro | ok, thanks | 07:20 |
| dholbach | rock on! | 07:21 |
| quadrispro | :) | 07:21 |
| tuxmaniac | heya gang. good morning | 07:47 |
| tuxmaniac | how do I add custome repositories to the pbuilder build system | 07:48 |
| tuxmaniac | like we do in /etc/apt/sources/list | 07:48 |
| RAOF | pbulider --login --save-after-login | 07:48 |
| RAOF | s/--l/l/, I think. | 07:48 |
| RAOF | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list; exit. Tada! | 07:49 |
| tuxmaniac | aah ok | 07:49 |
| tuxmaniac | thanks RAOF | 07:52 |
| stefanlsd | morning! | 08:03 |
| stefanlsd | When making an SRU update - do i just attach the debdiff to the bug? The changelog should then be hardy-proposed? | 08:06 |
| Adri2000 | stefanlsd: yes, see the wiki | 08:10 |
| stefanlsd | Adri2000: thanks. reading it and its not that clear on it | 08:11 |
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| stefanlsd | yay. my first SRU | 08:26 |
| stefanlsd | well, i guess i'll celebrate when its approved :) | 08:27 |
| huats | morning everyone! | 08:27 |
| iulian | Good morning. | 09:01 |
| dholbach | hi iulian | 09:04 |
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| stefanlsd | hihi | 09:05 |
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| Hobbsee | whine. why am i getting hug day mail again... | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | oh, because i have a rule for hug day, not bug day. sigh. | 09:18 |
| * Hobbsee fixes | 09:19 | |
| directhex | poor Hobbsee. would a hug make it better? | 09:20 |
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| bdrung_ | which team should i subscribe when i have a debdiff for sru in universe (i am not a motu)? motu-sru or ubuntu-universe-sponsors? | 10:35 |
| laga | motu-sru i think | 10:35 |
| laga | if they ACK it, then ubuntu-universe-sponsors | 10:35 |
| NCommander | laga, in my experience, SRU usually uplodas the debdiff | 10:36 |
| laga | NCommander: even better | 10:36 |
| NCommander | laga, BTW, want to help me? | 10:36 |
| NCommander | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnat-4.2/+bug/268260 - laga | 10:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 268260 in music123 "GNAT 4.2 Transition Tracking Bug" [Undecided,New] | 10:37 |
| NCommander | Be afraid, be VERY afraid | 10:37 |
| laga | um, i need to go now ;)) | 10:39 |
| laga | although that sounds interesting | 10:39 |
| NCommander | laga, I feel sorry for -SRU :-) | 10:40 |
| stefanlsd | NCommander: i'll try help you | 10:40 |
| NCommander | laga, I don't think anyone SRUed 11 packages in universe in a single go | 10:40 |
| laga | i'll add that to my motu bookmark folder.. are there still debdiffs missings? | 10:40 |
| laga | NCommander: SRUs are a huge PITA. | 10:40 |
| NCommander | laga, nope, all there | 10:40 |
| laga | ah, okay | 10:40 |
| NCommander | laga, its all properly done, i.e., versioning is right | 10:41 |
| laga | i thought you wanted me to make a debdiff | 10:41 |
| NCommander | laga, its more of a matter of uploading | 10:41 |
| laga | NCommander: i'm not a MOTU :( | 10:41 |
| NCommander | Ah | 10:41 |
| NCommander | See, whoever gets stuck with this bug will +1 me for MOTU | 10:41 |
| NCommander | or just likes too much pain | 10:41 |
| laga | not even UUC yet, but i'll fix that soon. | 10:41 |
| laga | haha | 10:41 |
| stefanlsd | NCommander: ok, cant help you there either | 10:41 |
| * laga needs to talk the motus into delegating SRU stuff for mythbuntu packages to the mythbuntu team | 10:42 | |
| NCommander | stefanlsd, did you look at the bug? It scares little children | 10:42 |
| stefanlsd | NCommander: looks scary. easy changes though. are all the debdiffs now done? | 10:42 |
| NCommander | stefanlsd, yeah | 10:42 |
| NCommander | I had to dig out my Ada programming knowledge though >.>; | 10:43 |
| stefanlsd | NCommander: nice | 10:43 |
| wgrant | laga: Why? | 10:43 |
| NCommander | Well, not really | 10:43 |
| NCommander | See, I know all the really horrid things | 10:43 |
| NCommander | COBOL, Ada, lisp ... | 10:43 |
| NCommander | Guess who gets stuck with the bugs :-) | 10:43 |
| laga | wgrant: there's no need to impose additional bureaucracy when our main interest already is having a stable release. | 10:44 |
| wgrant | laga: We don't trust all MOTU to authorise SRUs, so why would non-MOTUs be entrusted with such power? | 10:44 |
| laga | wgrant: it would simplify the workflow. we know our packages very well and there's no need to jump through additional hurdles ;) | 10:45 |
| laga | wgrant: superm1 has a FFe delegation right now, a similar thing could happen for SRUs | 10:45 |
| wgrant | I don't see why. | 10:45 |
| wgrant | SRUs should be very rare. | 10:45 |
| laga | wgrant: SRUs are annoying. you need to find someone from motu-sru to ACK it which can take several days. | 10:46 |
| laga | wgrant: yes, and they should be done quickly. | 10:46 |
| wgrant | Then motu-sru should be improved. | 10:46 |
| NCommander | wgrant, well, there are cases where you also get the massive SRUs | 10:47 |
| laga | wgrant: nobody except for mythbuntu uses these packages. if we think we need an update, then we should get one. | 10:47 |
| laga | without begging to motu-sru :) | 10:47 |
| wgrant | That seems a very strange attitude. | 10:48 |
| wgrant | Releases are releases. | 10:48 |
| wgrant | One doesn't update releases for the sake of updating releases. | 10:48 |
| laga | no, not at all. it saves work for everyone | 10:48 |
| laga | no, one updates release for the sake of fixing bugs. | 10:48 |
| laga | anyways, i will be sending an email to ubuntu-motu on that matter some time after 8.10 has been released. | 10:49 |
| laga | we'll see what comes from that | 10:49 |
| wgrant | ... after? | 10:49 |
| laga | yes? | 10:49 |
| laga | it's a long-term improvement i'd like to see. right now i'm concentrating on fixing bugs so that SRUs are not needed ;) | 10:49 |
| wgrant | I see. | 10:50 |
| laga | .. and if we think we need an update, we don't think we need an update for the sake of updating a release, we think we need an update because we have *very* good reasons to do so. | 10:53 |
| laga | *shakes head* | 10:54 |
| laga | anyways, everyone is welcome to shoot down my idea once that mail is sent ;) | 10:54 |
| karooga | hi all. how do I remove a lintian error "bad-ubuntu-distribution-in-changes-file intrepid"? I've check all the conf settings - can't find the problem. | 12:40 |
| stefanlsd | karooga: paste changes to pastebin | 12:40 |
| karooga | stefanlsd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45295/ | 12:43 |
| laga | i assume you're on hardy or earlier | 12:44 |
| karooga | stefanlsd: I don't get this error when I run debuild -S for hardy. | 12:44 |
| karooga | laga: yup | 12:44 |
| stefanlsd | karooga: can u pastebin the debian/changelog file | 12:44 |
| laga | karooga: if your version of lintian is too old, it'll complain about that | 12:44 |
| karooga | http://paste.ubuntu.com/45296/ | 12:45 |
| karooga | laga: it's Lintian v1.23.46... standard hardy. Shouldn't be a prob? | 12:46 |
| karooga | stefanlsd: I don't get any errors when I use pbuilder with intrepid base though. | 12:48 |
| stefanlsd | karooga: might be an older lintian version where its fixed now. try run dpkg-genchanges manually | 12:49 |
| stefanlsd | karooga: see if u get that error.. | 12:49 |
| karooga | stefanlsd: "dpkg-genchanges: failure: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory" ? | 12:59 |
| stefanlsd | karooga: add -S to it | 13:06 |
| karooga | http://paste.ubuntu.com/45300/ | 13:07 |
| karooga | stefanlsd: doesn't look like there are errors | 13:08 |
| stefanlsd | karooga: i think its an old lintian that doesnt know intrepid yet :) | 13:11 |
| karooga | stefanlsd: cool. Well, I've uploaded to revu now... will see what happens. | 13:12 |
| directhex | hm. the number of people using my backports repo has gnone up by about 1500 in august | 13:14 |
| karooga | directhex: excellent :-) which pkgs? | 13:15 |
| directhex | karooga: mono & related driftwood | 13:16 |
| * iulian looks around | 13:17 | |
| stefanlsd | directhex: where do u see stats on ppas? | 13:17 |
| directhex | stefanlsd: you don't. PPAs are not signed, so i mirror&sign to a different host - one with logs | 13:17 |
| stefanlsd | directhex: oh ok | 13:17 |
| directhex | stefanlsd: i won't advise people use an unsigned repo directly. it's already a painful level of trust asking them to add my gpg key to their apt-key | 13:18 |
| stefanlsd | directhex: yeah. sure. although i more trust a ppa coming from LP where i can see the owner and stuff about him. | 13:18 |
| pyc | i wish ppas have some sort of a query api | 13:19 |
| pyc | much like LP api, but leaning to ppa? | 13:19 |
| directhex | stefanlsd: well, i point to my gpg key on keyserver.ubuntu.com | 13:21 |
| directhex | stefanlsd: exact numbers at the foot of http://directhex.mfgames.com/hardy.html | 13:28 |
| directhex | stefanlsd: looks like ~20% of users are on amd64 | 13:28 |
| stefanlsd | directhex: thanks. intreresting! | 13:29 |
| karooga | what's the format for get-orig-source rule? | 13:30 |
| directhex | karooga: mono-basic on debian uses it, take a peek | 13:31 |
| karooga | directhex: you're just trying to get me to install mono aren't you ;-) | 13:32 |
| directhex | karooga: well, if you're on ubuntu you already have mono | 13:33 |
| laga | mythtv has it, too. ;) | 13:33 |
| directhex | karooga: but mono-basic failed to get into intrepid, so not specifically. i just know i wrote a get-orig-source rule for it | 13:33 |
| norsetto | huats! | 13:53 |
| huats | norsetto: !!! | 13:53 |
| norsetto | huats: have you got 5 minutes of your precious time for me? | 13:53 |
| huats | norsetto: always for you | 13:54 |
| * norsetto hopes Geraldine is not around | 13:54 | |
| huats | norsetto: btw I was thinking that it might be interesting to have a reception meeting one day soon (a bit more than a month since the previous one) | 13:54 |
| huats | norsetto: nope | 13:54 |
| huats | I am at work :) | 13:54 |
| nxvl | good morning | 14:12 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: ping | 14:19 |
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| asac | BUGabundo_work: whats up? | 14:23 |
| BUGabundo_work | hya asac | 14:25 |
| BUGabundo_work | well me and a couple of friends are bashing our heads on how to configure 3G modems with nm0.7 | 14:26 |
| BUGabundo_work | any wiki with more details? | 14:26 |
| BUGabundo_work | I just found out your blog, and a couple of external links | 14:26 |
| BUGabundo_work | readign them now | 14:26 |
| slytherin | geser: around? | 14:27 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: what kind of 3G modem is that? | 14:27 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: and what doesnt work? | 14:27 |
| slytherin | persia: around? | 14:27 |
| BUGabundo_work | it is not that it doesn't work (at least for me) asac | 14:28 |
| BUGabundo_work | its just that it requests to many fields of options to connect | 14:28 |
| BUGabundo_work | and I don't have anything more then PIN and PUK... | 14:28 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: usually it requires a APN | 14:28 |
| BUGabundo_work | what's that? | 14:29 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: got it http://www.unlocks.co.uk/gprs_settings.php#portugal | 14:31 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: yeah. there will be a broadband wizard | 14:32 |
| asac | that will auto fill that for most providers | 14:32 |
| BUGabundo_work | nice... I've read about that DB... is it in some wiki ? | 14:32 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: no its actually in intrepid | 14:33 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: but isnt integrated in applet yet | 14:33 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac I know that some phone manufacters have that data already published like nokia and sonyericson | 14:33 |
| BUGabundo_work | so we can keep data uptodate | 14:34 |
| BUGabundo_work | I've added your ppa to my sources.list.d/ and I'll check back with updates, plus those WiFi timeouts bugs | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo_work | I've merged two bugs (the wpa and open wifi timeout)... not sure if you rather work on them as 2 or as dupe! | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo_work | #263963 and #260656 | 14:36 |
| zul | can someone from the motu-sru team unsubscribe the team from #265058? Thanks | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G has the APN I was talking about. ill see if it is updated | 14:39 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: ok | 14:53 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: i uploaded a new snapshot yesterday to PPA | 14:54 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: I'll also request extra testing on hardy and intrepid on ubuntu-pt ml | 14:54 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: give that a try maybe | 14:54 |
| BUGabundo_work | just did an apt-get upgrade | 14:54 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 14:55 |
| siretart | does the ubuntu live cd autoload the kernel module dm_mod? | 15:00 |
| zul | cody-somerville: ping | 15:05 |
| cody-somerville | zul, pong | 15:05 |
| zul | cody-somerville: can you unsuscribe the motu-sru team from #265058 please? | 15:05 |
| cody-somerville | lp #265058 | 15:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 265058 in openvpn "openvpn2.1~rc7 fails to pick up the CN of certificates" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/265058 | 15:06 |
| zul | thats the one | 15:06 |
| stefanlsd | zul: can I ask howcome? | 15:12 |
| zul | stefanlsd: because its apart of main | 15:12 |
| stefanlsd | zul: aah. bleh. yeah. sorry. that was me. subscribed the wrong one. | 15:13 |
| zul | stefanlsd: yeah I fixed it check your mail :) | 15:13 |
| stefanlsd | zul: thanks! what did you change in the debdiff? | 15:14 |
| zul | stefanlsd: just how the lp bug id was done | 15:15 |
| stefanlsd | zul: k, thanks. I will have a look at it for next time. (was my first SRU) | 15:15 |
| zul | stefanlsd: cool next time check the wiki to see how the process is done | 15:16 |
| stefanlsd | zul: was reading the wiki - maybe some stuff isnt that clear | 15:17 |
| slytherin | geser: persia: can anyone of you please ack bug #265058? | 15:29 |
| geser | slytherin: are you sure the bug number is correct? | 15:41 |
| slytherin | geser: I guess not, bug #268538 | 15:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 268538 in libxstream-java "Please move package to universe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268538 | 15:41 |
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| geser | slytherin: ACKed | 15:44 |
| slytherin | geser: thanks | 15:44 |
| geser | slytherin: if you have some time: can you check we can get javassist moved to universe? this would allow aspectwerkz2 to get moved also | 15:47 |
| geser | as the last debian changelog mentions the move to Debian main and the use of openjdk-6 it might need a FFe | 15:48 |
| slytherin | geser: I will check in an hour or two. I already have a list of packages that will need FFE for move to universe. The list is at home though. | 15:49 |
| slytherin | geser: Subscribe yourself to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/MoveToUniverse I keep that page fairly updated. | 15:52 |
| slytherin | geser: any chance you can take a look again at libmatthew-java FTBFS? | 15:52 |
| geser | slytherin: re libmatthew-java: I don't know any further there, you probably need upstream to fix it or someone familiar with jni | 15:55 |
| slytherin | geser: Wait the problem doesn't seem to be JNI related this time. It is with wrong -source option to javac command. I will try a build sometime today. | 15:56 |
| geser | slytherin: so it different from bug 239765? | 15:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 239765 in libmatthew-java "libmatthew-java 0.7.1-1 refuse to build" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/239765 | 15:57 |
| slytherin | geser: At least latest build log does not show any signs of jni failure | 15:59 |
| slytherin | geser: time to go home. See you later. | 15:59 |
| nxvl | norsetto: around? | 16:00 |
| norsetto | nxvl: yessir! | 16:00 |
| nxvl | norsetto: just saw your e-mail, is there any reason why you are steping out of the lead of the mentoring program or just to focus on something else and will be aroung still? | 16:01 |
| norsetto | nxvl: mainly, because its time old farts like me gives way to new blood | 16:02 |
| nxvl | sounds like a good point, but we will still miss you | 16:03 |
| nxvl | :'( | 16:03 |
| * norsetto pats nxvl on the shoulders | 16:03 | |
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| abwesend_ | http://www.hanf-spiel.de/137695 | 16:22 |
| === superm1 is now known as superm1|away | ||
| === superm1|away is now known as superm1 | ||
| cherva | can someone give me a nice tutorial about the debian/rules file ? | 17:04 |
| norsetto | cherva: you mean about make in general or specific to debian/rules? | 17:16 |
| Laney | Hey guys | 17:17 |
| norsetto | Hi Laney | 17:18 |
| cherva | norsetto: specific to debian/rules | 17:27 |
| norsetto | cherva: I always found the debian policy pretty clear on that: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules | 17:28 |
| cherva | norsetto: thanks | 17:29 |
| norsetto | cherva: the packaging guide is also quite clear: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Rules | 17:30 |
| sebner | norsetto: \o/ | 17:33 |
| norsetto | sebner: !o! (oups :-)) | 17:33 |
| sebner | ^^ | 17:34 |
| * norsetto kicks ubottu awake | 17:34 | |
| norsetto | ubottu ? | 17:34 |
| sebner | norsetto: are you kidding the poor bot again? :P | 17:35 |
| norsetto | sebner: give me an hand to bury this thingie | 17:35 |
| * sebner cuts down a hand and pass it over to norsetto xD | 17:35 | |
| * norsetto consider it for a moment, then crunch it happily | 17:36 | |
| * sebner cuts down his remaining hand and slaps norsetto for eating the his first hand :P | 17:37 | |
| norsetto | sebner: hey, weren't you told to wash your hands? | 17:38 |
| sebner | norsetto: I was my hands in innocence and nothing more :P | 17:38 |
| norsetto | sebner: you stopped being innocent about 30 min. after you were born | 17:39 |
| sebner | norsetto: Bad world :) | 17:40 |
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| sebner | norsetto: I hardly followed discussion recently. Is it true that we move all packages into bzr? | 17:47 |
| norsetto | sebner: me too, all I know is what the sabdfl said in the announcement | 17:48 |
| Laney | That's the plan | 17:48 |
| Laney | norsetto, sebner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoMoreSourcePackages | 17:48 |
| sebner | brr. /me doesn't like working with bzr as much as with LP | 17:49 |
| Syntux | Good day :-) | 17:49 |
| norsetto | Syntux: salam | 17:50 |
| RainCT | sebner, norsetto: for now the complete archives will be in bazaar but the old tools will continue working (so no one has to use bzr if he doesn't like it) | 17:51 |
| Syntux | norsetto, Salam Cesare :-) | 17:52 |
| norsetto | RainCT: oh, rainct, who still hasn't answered my email ;-) | 17:52 |
| sebner | RainCT: the question is *how* long ;) | 17:53 |
| norsetto | sebner: don't distract him, he is still thinking hard to try and find an excuse | 17:54 |
| RainCT | lol | 17:54 |
| sebner | lol | 17:54 |
| norsetto | lol | 17:55 |
| RainCT | sebner: well, that's uncertain afaik, depending on how it goes once we have the optional repo. | 17:55 |
| sebner | xD | 17:55 |
| sebner | RainCT: kk, thx for the info :) | 17:55 |
| * norsetto doesn't know why he lols but he likes to be part of it | 17:55 | |
| Syntux | LoL | 17:57 |
| RainCT | norsetto: hah. well, e-mail answered | 17:57 |
| norsetto | RainCT: thx, I was afraid of that :-\ | 17:58 |
| * RainCT is bored and wants suggestions on what to improve on REVU :P | 18:02 | |
| Laney | improve the number of advocates of my package ;) | 18:02 |
| Syntux | darn, my laptop is dying | 18:03 |
| RainCT | Laney: you have a comment from dktrkranz | 18:03 |
| Laney | I do? | 18:03 |
| Laney | ... | 18:04 |
| norsetto | rainct: bring the front page back to legibility | 18:04 |
| Laney | Oh, I hate licensing so | 18:04 |
| RainCT | norsetto: what's the problem? font size? | 18:04 |
| norsetto | RainCT: perhaps, whenever I attemp to scan it I just get an headache | 18:05 |
| RainCT | norsetto: try Ctrl++ :P | 18:06 |
| RainCT | does that help? | 18:06 |
| norsetto | RainCT: it should be the other way around, people that want to ruin their eyes should use Ctrl+- | 18:07 |
| norsetto | RainCT: the default should be sane (as it was) | 18:07 |
| Laney | murrayc: ping | 18:10 |
| murrayc | Laney: pong | 18:11 |
| ssaboum | hi RainCT | 18:11 |
| ssaboum | maybe a notification system should be added to revu, in order to warn people by mail, about new packages, changes etc ... | 18:12 |
| ssaboum | maybe with a system of "subscription" | 18:12 |
| ssaboum | just like in launchpad bugs | 18:12 |
| Laney | murrayc: Hey, I believe you maintain goocanvasmm, right? I'm trying to package it but there are a few unlicensed files. See http://pastebin.com/f7df57b3b | 18:13 |
| RainCT | ssaboum: yep, e-mail notifications are planned, but it's burried deep on my TODO because I don't like to work on e-mail stuff :P (there are already feeds, btw) | 18:13 |
| RainCT | norsetto: http://rainct.homelinux.net/revu/index.py?updated=true is that better? | 18:14 |
| ssaboum | (i know lol ) | 18:14 |
| norsetto | RainCT: re. email notifications: didn't we have one and got rid of it as it was just an annoying thing? | 18:14 |
| norsetto | rainct: much better, how many pts? | 18:15 |
| RainCT | I don't know if it was there (although I don't think so; there was the ML, though), but it will be optional. Users will be able to subscribe to all their stuff (like with the personal feed) or to individual packages. | 18:16 |
| RainCT | norsetto: global text-size is 11pt, one more as before | 18:16 |
| norsetto | rainct: yes, the ml, but allowing people to be notified about changes about their packages would be nice | 18:16 |
| norsetto | rainct: ok, that should be around 15 px at 96 dpi which seems reasonable | 18:17 |
| RainCT | norsetto: OK, I'll add an option for users to choose 10pt or 11pt | 18:17 |
| RainCT | (a configuration page will be needed anyway for the e-mail notifications) | 18:17 |
| norsetto | RainCT: in that case you may want to raise h2 too which is 12pt now | 18:19 |
| murrayc | Laney: Ah. I'll take a look tomorrow. Thanks. A patch would be welcome if you want to speed that along. Do file a bug in general if you don't happen to catch me on irc. | 18:19 |
| murrayc | Laney: how can I run that test myself? | 18:20 |
| Laney | murrayc: I'm out but can do it tomorrow. What license would you prefer? | 18:20 |
| Laney | murrayc: I used the licensecheck tool | 18:20 |
| Laney | "licensecheck -r ." in the base dir | 18:20 |
| jpds | Laney: Where can one find that tool? | 18:21 |
| murrayc | Laney: GPL, I guess. It's what we use for gtkmm examples. For instance: http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gtkmm-documentation/trunk/examples/book/giomm/read_file_async/main.cc | 18:21 |
| Laney | jpds: devscripts | 18:22 |
| murrayc | Laney: I think wrap_init.cc is generated though. If so, it's not been a problem for other *mm files. | 18:22 |
| Laney | GPL2, right | 18:22 |
| murrayc | Laney: yeah | 18:24 |
| ssaboum | RainCT : rain i can help, i'm not that bad in python | 18:25 |
| ssaboum | RainCT : rain i mean | 18:26 |
| ssaboum | for the email notification module | 18:26 |
| Laney | murrayc: Will sort it out tomorrow if you don't get to it | 18:26 |
| * Laney -> location(outside); | 18:26 | |
| RainCT | ssaboum: great :). https://launchpad.net/revu < patches are welcome | 18:26 |
| RainCT | ssaboum: but I will have to tell you how to get the e-mail of the user (and I forgot how I wanted to get it :/) | 18:27 |
| RainCT | pochu: have you launched fusion-icon from the command line? | 18:52 |
| sebner | DktrKranz: \o/ | 18:52 |
| DktrKranz | sebner, \o/ | 18:52 |
| pochu | RainCT: yup | 18:57 |
| RainCT | pochu: don't do that ;) | 18:57 |
| pochu | heh | 18:58 |
| pochu | why not? :) | 18:58 |
| pochu | that's what the reporter did btw | 18:58 |
| pochu | ah | 18:58 |
| pochu | Exec=fusion-icon --no-start | 18:58 |
| RainCT | pochu: yep. but that's unrelated to the bug report | 18:59 |
| nxvl | pochu: did you want to co-maintain terminator? | 18:59 |
| pochu | perhaps --no-start should be on by default, and there should be a "--start" option :) | 18:59 |
| nxvl | pochu: i'm running out of time | 18:59 |
| pochu | nxvl: I could, in PAPT | 18:59 |
| pochu | if you don't mind moving it to svn ;) | 18:59 |
| nxvl | PAPT? | 18:59 |
| nxvl | that completely fine with me | 19:00 |
| pochu | http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/PythonAppsPackagingTeam | 19:00 |
| nxvl | pochu: http://people.ubuntu.com/~nxvl/terminator/ | 19:00 |
| nxvl | pochu: take the source from there | 19:00 |
| pochu | great :) | 19:01 |
| pochu | nxvl: if you want to keep maintaining it, join the python-apps project on alioth | 19:01 |
| nxvl | pochu: it nees a little changes since i break some stuff with the last version | 19:01 |
| pochu | so you can commit to the repo | 19:01 |
| nxvl | but haven't got time to fix it lately | 19:01 |
| pochu | ok, I'll have a look soonish | 19:01 |
| directhex | hm. that pidgin/empathy usability report on the wiki was interesting | 19:02 |
| pochu | btw, how come do you have access to people.u.c? I thought only canonical employers had | 19:02 |
| nxvl | pochu: exactly | 19:02 |
| nxvl | pochu: i work for canonical now, that's why i don't have much time | 19:02 |
| pochu | nxvl: oh, that's great :) | 19:03 |
| pochu | nxvl: server team? | 19:03 |
| nxvl | nop | 19:03 |
| nxvl | OEM Solutions Group | 19:03 |
| pochu | ah, cool | 19:03 |
| ScottK | I thought p.u.c got opened up to non-employees in any case. | 19:03 |
| ScottK | p=people in this case | 19:03 |
| james_w | it will be | 19:04 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 19:04 |
| pochu | hey ScottK and james_w | 19:04 |
| james_w | hey pochu | 19:04 |
| ScottK | Heya pochu. | 19:05 |
| sebner | huhu ScottK :) | 19:06 |
| slytherin | ScottK: You are part of motu-release right? | 19:08 |
| ScottK | slytherin: I am. | 19:09 |
| slytherin | ScottK: There is a package bluez-firmware in Debian non-free which has never been synced. It contains distributable binary blobs for some broadcom bluetooth chipsets. There are 2-3 long pending bugs relates to this package. Do you think a FFE can be considered and the package can be synced? | 19:11 |
| ScottK-laptop | slytherin: Do you know why it's never been sync'ed? | 19:12 |
| slytherin | ScottK-laptop: no idea. | 19:12 |
| pwnguin | if its a firmware thing, wouldn't the kernel team be the people to talk to????? | 19:15 |
| pwnguin | woa, lag | 19:15 |
| ScottK-laptop | slytherin: I don't see in debian/copyright where other entities are allowed to distribute it? | 19:15 |
| geser | slytherin, ScottK-laptop: bluez-firmware is on the sync blacklist (in the block commented with "benc: we do our own kernel | 19:15 |
| geser | ") | 19:15 |
| ScottK-laptop | geser: Thanks. | 19:15 |
| slytherin | ScottK-laptop: I claimed that based on some entry in changelog. Let me confirm it. | 19:15 |
| ScottK-laptop | slytherin: I'd say no based on the sync blacklist. | 19:16 |
| ScottK-laptop | geser: Thanks. | 19:16 |
| slytherin | hmm | 19:16 |
| slytherin | Anyway, I promised persia I will bring up this issue. | 19:16 |
| ScottK-laptop | slytherin: If I was an archive admin, I don't think I'd accept it into multiverse in any case. | 19:16 |
| pwnguin | slytherin: do you have hardware that doesn't work without that? | 19:17 |
| slytherin | pwnguin: I don't have any such hardware. But there is at least one bug which says this package is needed. Do you want me to look up bug number? | 19:17 |
| pwnguin | only if it hasn't been triaged. so yes, i guess | 19:18 |
| slytherin | ScottK-laptop: Check the chnagelog entry in 2005, http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/non-free/b/bluez-firmware/current/changelog | 19:19 |
| ScottK-laptop | slytherin: Read the email that the added to debian/copyright. That's the one I don't think works. | 19:19 |
| ScottK-laptop | slytherin: In any case, would this package even work with our kernel? | 19:20 |
| pwnguin | im not convinved we don't ship this stuff elsewhere =/ | 19:21 |
| slytherin | ScottK-laptop: I will check the copyright. And no idea about if it works with our kernel | 19:21 |
| slytherin | pwnguin: here you go - bgu #156133 | 19:21 |
| slytherin | bug #156133 | 19:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 156133 in bluez-utils "bluez suite lacks bluez-firmware package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156133 | 19:21 |
| nxvl | pochu: already applied for membership on the team, please let me know where you upload it | 19:29 |
| pochu | nxvl: where or when? ;) | 19:32 |
| pochu | nxvl: it will be in http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-apps/packages/, I'll let you know once I've uploaded it | 19:36 |
| pochu | nxvl: feel free to join #debian-python on OFTC | 19:36 |
| nxvl | pochu: when i have time :D | 19:38 |
| _ruben | bugger .. i keep forgetting how to recall the previous line bash completely .. $! for last param i'll never forget .. the variant for the complete line keeps eluding me :p | 20:01 |
| liw | control-p seems to work for me ;-) | 20:02 |
| _ruben | heh .. if only that'd insert it after the cursor :) .. i mean like "echo $whatever" .. where $whatever is the previously entered command :) | 20:04 |
| ScottK-laptop | liw: Did you get my pong on the question of cruft cleaner? | 20:05 |
| liw | ScottK-laptop, possibly... I've been ill for the past couple of days so I'm not sure I noticed | 20:05 |
| ScottK-laptop | Ah,. | 20:06 |
| ScottK-laptop | liw: My message was that "It's an approved spec for Intrepid" would have been a very good answer when I asked why it should get in post FF. | 20:06 |
| ScottK-laptop | liw: I didn't know about the spec when you brought it up originally. | 20:07 |
| liw | ScottK-laptop, ah yes, I just found that in lastlog... yeah, I should have mentioned that, my stupidity | 20:07 |
| ScottK-laptop | liw: So please file a bug asking for FFe. | 20:07 |
| liw | ScottK-laptop, I will, thanks | 20:07 |
| bobbo | Would syncing http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/45461/plain/ from Debian require an FFe? | 20:12 |
| ScottK-laptop | bobbo: Yes. | 20:13 |
| bobbo | ScottK-laptop: cool, thanks | 20:13 |
| POX_ | nxvl: you have a new email in your mailbox | 20:16 |
| nxvl | POX_: thenk you, got it :D | 20:16 |
| nxvl | thank* | 20:16 |
| POX_ | now read our policy and cry (you already signed a contract and there's no way going back) | 20:18 |
| POX_ | ;) | 20:18 |
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| slytherin | POX_: that sounds like NDA. :-P | 20:20 |
| POX_ | oh damn, there's rmproject.php on alioth... | 20:24 |
| POX_ | don't tell nxvl | 20:24 |
| nxvl | :D | 20:24 |
| POX_ | nxvl: I have problems with sending private msgs on FreeNode, could you join OFTC? | 20:41 |
| nxvl | POX_: i actually got your PM's | 20:42 |
| Adri2000 | any motu-sru folk around? | 20:42 |
| nxvl | pochu: already uploaded terminator to svn | 21:00 |
| norsetto | RAOF: any reason you didn't subscribe motu-release yourself to bug 267020 ? | 21:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267020 in gnome-do "FeatureFreeze exception for GNOME Do 0.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267020 | 21:08 |
| pochu | nxvl: great, thanks! | 21:21 |
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| === shani is now known as Shani | ||
| RAOF | norsetto: Yes; that's half done. | 21:53 |
| norsetto | RAOF: ok, do you mind if I unsubscribe then? | 21:54 |
| RAOF | norsetto: It needs the gnome-do-plugins info added to it, then I'll subscribe motu-release | 21:54 |
| RAOF | norsetto: Not at all | 21:54 |
| norsetto | RAOF: thx | 21:54 |
| norsetto | RAOF: ok, I also assigned it to you and set it to in-progress so that nobody else should mess with it | 21:58 |
| RAOF | norsetto: And I've added a comment to the effect that it's incomplete. Sorry for the noise! | 22:02 |
| norsetto | RAOF: np | 22:02 |
| __iron | hi | 22:19 |
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| Falken_ | hi ! | 23:01 |
| Falken_ | I have a quick question about the packages waiting for approval in REVU : will they be reviewed before intrepid ? or is it already to late ? will they have to wait for 9.04 ? | 23:03 |
| DktrKranz | Falken_, unless you require a Feature Freeze exception, they will go for 9.04 | 23:06 |
| Falken_ | okay, I guess mine is not big enough to win such exception :P | 23:06 |
| Falken_ | allright thanks, good night ! | 23:07 |
| Falken_ | (or morning, or whatever :P) | 23:07 |
| ScottK-laptop | It occurs to me that since 3 of 5 in motu-release are Kubuntu users we could have a lot of fun with the Gnome-Do FFe. | 23:08 |
| DktrKranz | ScottK-laptop, doesn't it qualify for gnome standing FFe? | 23:12 |
| === Pici` is now known as Pici | ||
| ScottK-laptop | DktrKranz: No. It's for Gnome, not part of official Gnome. | 23:12 |
| ScottK-laptop | AFAIK anyway. | 23:12 |
| DktrKranz | I'm not a gnome-do user, but I can test it (I'm a GNOME user) | 23:13 |
| ScottK-laptop | Yes, but it might be fun for the 3 KDE users to vote it down and then make people beg. | 23:14 |
| ScottK-laptop | ;-) | 23:14 |
| DktrKranz | good chance to say: "hey, gnome is worse, kde is waiting for you" | 23:15 |
| ScottK-laptop | Well Gnome is fine for people who want their desktop the way Gnome devs want them to have it. | 23:15 |
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| DktrKranz | I think KDE won't go on my old hardware | 23:16 |
| Adri2000 | DktrKranz: could you take a look at the ngircd sru please? (it's a one line patch) | 23:16 |
| DktrKranz | Adri2000, bug # ? | 23:17 |
| Adri2000 | bug #85266 | 23:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 85266 in ngircd "ngircd refuses to start automatically through sysv init" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85266 | 23:17 |
| ScottK-laptop | DktrKranz: I've run Hardy KDE3 sort of reasonably well on a PIII 600 with 256MB of RAM. Don't try to have a lot of apps open at once though. | 23:17 |
| DktrKranz | Adri2000, does /var/run require particular permissions? | 23:20 |
| DktrKranz | or owner= | 23:20 |
| DktrKranz | ScottK-laptop, oh... my box is similar, so I have chances to see what KDE4 is :) | 23:21 |
| ScottK-laptop | Well KDE4 I didn't have so much luck with, but I'd done a lot of bad things on that install, so it was probably my fault. | 23:22 |
| Adri2000 | DktrKranz: ls -l /var/run shows that it's usually root:root and 755, which is what mkdir is doing | 23:23 |
| DktrKranz | Adri2000, ok then, ACKed. | 23:24 |
| Adri2000 | thanks | 23:25 |
| * DktrKranz moves to bed, see you | 23:27 | |
| RainCT | persia: may I get your opinion on bug #268763? | 23:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 268763 in revu "Provide a way to mark relevant packages when in Freeze" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268763 | 23:34 |
| __iron | hi | 23:41 |
| __iron | i got problems with packages update | 23:41 |
| RainCT | well, good night | 23:43 |
| __iron | describe: upgrade to nvidia-glx-new_169.12+2.6.24.14-21.49_amd64.deb | 23:43 |
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| nxvl | ScottK-laptop: you never signed my key, right? | 23:48 |
| ScottK-laptop | nxvl: No I didn't. I still have the information. | 23:49 |
| ScottK-laptop | It's also still on my TODO. | 23:50 |
| ScottK-laptop | Sorry for the delay. | 23:50 |
| nxvl | ScottK-laptop: no worries, just making sure :D | 23:50 |
| Adri2000 | zul: so, what's up with fail2ban? | 23:54 |
| coppro | ok, how do I change the keybindings on the consoles? | 23:55 |
| coppro | It seems to change every release | 23:55 |
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