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bryce_bwahahaha http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/complete-graphs/xserver-xgl/plots/xserver-xgl-fullyear-open.png00:27
pwnguinbryce_: what's that graph about?06:11
pwnguina lot of bugs closed apparently06:12
bryce_yeah we finally killed off xgl06:12
pwnguinah06:13
bryce_more graphs here:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Plots/06:21
tjaaltoncrevette: so the layout works now?07:36
crevetteyep07:36
crevettehello :)07:37
tjaaltonexcellent07:37
tjaaltonsigh, firefox gfx get corrupt on me both on hardy and intrepid.. I need to move the mouse to another window to refresh the contents07:55
tjaaltonwonder what's going on07:55
seb128tjaalton: hi09:04
seb128tjaalton: bug #268395, bug #268384, bug #268320, something is broken in your changes09:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 268395 in gnome-control-center "gnome-keyboard-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in XkbGetNames()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26839509:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 268384 in gnome-control-center "gnome-keyboard-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in XkbGetNames()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26838409:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 268320 in gnome-control-center "gnome-keyboard-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in XkbGetNames()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26832009:07
tjaaltonseb128: isn't that what mvo did?09:14
seb128oh09:15
seb128tjaalton: sorry, I though that was the evdev thingy09:15
seb128mvo: ^09:15
tjaaltonseb128: maybe they didn't get the xkb-data update which made them try the capplet09:15
seb128tjaalton: depends should assure they get it09:16
tjaaltonseb128: yeah, well I didn't add one :/09:16
tjaaltonit's a bit late for that too09:16
mvoseb128: I have a look09:16
seb128mvo: I'm fixing the retracers to get you a good stacktrace09:16
mvohm, that is code that I haven't really touched, maybe some sort of side effect 09:19
* mvo looks closer09:19
seb128one of you broke it and I'll let you discuss the details ;-)09:20
seb128it's either the evdev changes or the gnome-control-center changes09:20
tjaaltonhighly unlikely that the ruleset change broke this :)09:21
tjaaltonbut I'm all ears09:21
seb128bug #268320 has a correct stacktrace now09:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 268320 in gnome-control-center "gnome-keyboard-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in XkbGetNames()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26832009:23
seb128tjaalton: the description on bug #268395 suggests that the issue not a gnome-control-center one, the guy went to the capplet to try fixing his layout which has been broken on upgrade09:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 268395 in gnome-control-center "gnome-keyboard-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in XkbGetNames()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26839509:27
seb128ah you already commented on this bug09:28
tjaaltonyes, there were a few similar reports09:29
jcristaudepending on the new xkb-data would probably fix it?09:30
tjaaltonyes09:30
tjaaltonbut by the time it hits the archive everyone should have it installed already (or would get the right version on upgrade=09:31
tjaalton)09:31
mvoshould nvidia work with 2.6.27-2 ? and if so, what do I need to do if it does not :) ?13:28
tjaaltonmvo: 177 works for me13:43
mvotjaalton: it seems like I have no kernel module, can I force dkms to build me one?13:45
tjaaltonmvo: yes, there's a bug where it's all documented how to recover.. a sec13:46
tjaaltonmvo: bug 26181613:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261816 in linux-restricted-modules-envy-2.6.24 "nvidia: Multiple versions in DKMS" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26181613:48
mvothanks tjaalton!13:48
* mvo hugs tjaalton13:48
* tjaalton hugs mvo back13:48
tjaaltonthe package should clean up old versions, but I'm not sure where tseliot is with it13:49
tseliottjaalton: problems?13:51
tjaaltontseliot: we discussed that nvidia-glx-177 should clean up those old dkms directories13:54
tseliottjaalton: yes, I haven't worked on it yet13:55
tseliotI'll do it ASAP13:55
tjaaltontseliot: thanks :)13:56
tjaaltonwgrant: does the mouse caplet support setting Horiz/VertEdgeScroll?15:13
mvoif bug #261816 is fix commited, why did I still see it :) or can we add some code that resolves the issue automatically instead of printing "multiple versions in DKMS" and failing to start X ?15:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261816 in linux-restricted-modules-envy-2.6.24 "nvidia: Multiple versions in DKMS" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26181615:24
mvowhat does "nvidia: AUTONINSTALL not set in its dkms.conf" tell me ?15:26
tjaaltonmvo: the package no longer leaves cruft behind, that's why it's marked as fixed. upgrades still fail though, and tseliot will fix that15:31
mvook15:31
tseliotyes, I will15:32
tseliotI'm working on jockey and xkit right now, though15:32
mvogreat, what does  "nvidia: AUTONINSTALL not set in its dkms.conf" mean? I get this when I reinstall linux-headers-$(uname -r)15:33
mvonow that is confusing, nvidia-177.70 in /usr/src has AUTOINSTALL=true15:35
mvohm, apt-get install nvidia-glx-173; apt-get install nvidia-glx-177 fixed it - i guess apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-177-kernel-source as well15:49
mvoI wonder if it is worth adding that to friendly recovery ...15:49
tjaaltonwgrant: sorry, I meant Horiz/VertTwoFingerScroll16:06
tseliotmvo: it doesn't find autoinstall because it doesn't find any dkms.conf16:07
tseliotbecause some half empty directories are still in /var/lib/dkms/nvidia when they shouldn't16:07
mvoaha, ok16:16
tseliotmvo: BTW I'll give you a new release of nvidia-common soon so as to solve the bug I told you about16:20
mvogreat :)16:20
mvoso its probably not woth adding code to friendly-recovery?16:20
tseliotmvo: I'm referring to the fact that some proprietary drivers don't work in Intrepid and that therefore we'll have to set a free driver during the dist-upgrade16:25
mvooh, right16:26
bryce_tjaalton: how can I help with bug 267682?17:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267682 in Ubuntu Intrepid "Hotkeys no longer working in Intrepid (evdev?)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26768217:21
johanbrtseliot: Recent nvidia drivers give a lot of rendering bugs for me. In firefox, a lot of pages don't render properly until I click somewhere in the window. Is this a known bug?17:25
bryce_johanbr: check bugs.launchpad.net to see if it's known17:57
johanbrI did. Didn't find anything.17:57
bryce_johanbr: go ahead and file one - include your Xorg.0.log and a screenshot or photo showing the rendering problems18:25
bryce_johanbr: unfortunately since it's a proprietary driver, there may not be much we can do about it, but it may be useful info to someone18:26
jcristaureporting it to nvidia might, or might not, be more useful18:28
tseliotjohanbr: hmm, sounds like a bug which affected 177.67 and was fixed in 177.68 or .7018:30
tseliotbryce_: did you have a look at my 2 new patches for the screen resolution capplet?18:49
johanbrtseliot: I see. I'll have a look if the driver is fully updated. Thanks.18:54
tjaaltontseliot: I'm seeing that same rendering bug on both hardy (169.12) and intrepid (177.70)19:04
tjaaltonbryce__: well, we need to decide *how* to fix it19:05
bryce__tjaalton: I'm still trying to understand it19:08
bryce__tjaalton: unfortunately, I don't seem to have exactly the same media keys as the T61, so am not sure I'm able to reproduce it19:08
bryce__however my sleep button (Fn+F1) does nothing either (but I can't reproduce mdz's troubleshooting)19:08
bryce__unfortunately some of my media keys lock up the machine19:09
tjaaltonbryce__: the thing is that evdev grabs the input device which produces those events19:09
tjaaltonso the events are not passed on to g-p-m19:09
tjaaltonsince it appears to only listen to hal19:10
tjaaltonI haven't dug beyond that19:10
bryce__(as an aside, I notice in my Xorg.0.log that evdev is setting up 1 mouse (/dev/input/event7) and three keyboards (event5, 6, 1)19:10
bryce__so, would we need to make g-p-m listen to X as well, or make evdev pass the events back to hal?19:12
tjaaltonthe former19:12
tjaaltonthe quirky way would be to use fdi-files that would make evdev not grab these devices19:13
bryce__I assume g-p-m has code to listen to -kbd; do you think it needs modified to listen to -evdev?19:13
bryce__or is there something we can do on the X side?19:13
tjaaltonkdb doesn't grab those devices19:13
tjaaltonkbd19:13
bryce__hm, well how did it work before?19:14
tjaaltonthat's a valid question which I can't answer to :)19:15
bryce__how do I see the events?  I'd like to verify that I can reproduce the problem, but catting /dev/input/event* when hitting the sleep key does nothing19:15
tjaaltongpm listened to hal or something19:15
tjaaltonuse evtest19:15
bryce__what package has evtest?19:17
tjaaltondvb-utils :)19:17
bryce__ok weird19:17
bryce__got a bunch of mknod/makedev errors when installing it; hope that's normal19:18
tjaaltonyeah it tries to run MAKEDEV dvb19:19
tjaaltonpretty useless these days19:19
bryce__okay... now how do I use it?  :-)19:23
bryce__I get the same output for event 5,6,1, and no response when I hit Fn+F119:23
bryce__well, event1 gives different output, but also no response for this key19:25
bryce__it is showing "Event code 142 (Sleep)"19:26
tjaaltonhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/45445/19:26
bryce__Event code 152 (Coffee)  heh19:26
tjaaltonyeah, lock screen :)19:26
tseliotbryce__:  did you have a look at my 2 new patches for the screen resolution capplet?19:26
tjaaltonso, when you first run it, it should dump the keycodes the device supports19:27
tseliottjaalton: 169.12 won't be fixed anyway19:27
bryce__tseliot: not yet; it was on my todo list for today but this hotkey stuff got bumped to higher priority19:28
tjaaltontseliot: the thing is that I only started seeing it fairly recently, which makes it even more strange19:28
bryce__tseliot: well, I mean reviewed the patches, but I haven't packaged/uploaded them yet19:29
bryce__tseliot: since there's a good bit of cnew ode there it may require a FFe unfortunately19:32
bryce__er s/cnew ode/new code/19:32
bryce__ boy I'm not even sure where to start looking in g-p-m19:42
tseliotbryce__: ok, no problem. If you have doubts I'll be glad to answer19:43
tseliottjaalton: it might be something else then19:43
tseliottjaalton: that triggers the problem in the driver. Maybe firefox?19:43
tjaaltontseliot: could be, or some lib19:44
bryce__tseliot: sure, I may be able to get to it today.  If I could show you my todo list here by my computer, those uploads are literally the next thing on my todo list.  :-)19:45
bryce__ahh, Fn+F1 is hibernate, not sleep19:58
bryce__tjaalton: are we sure that the bug affects all laptops, and not just T61's?20:00
tjaaltonbryce__: mine is X61, and pitti has a dell..20:03
tjaaltonso it does affect more than just T6120:03
bryce__ah, I misremembered; I thought you had a T6120:04
tjaaltonI also have an old T2320:04
bryce__ok well I can't see that SLEEP is mapped to any hotkeys on this dell20:05
bryce__the hibernate key doesn't work, nor does the "BATTERY" key (Fn+F3), although I don't know what BATTERY *should* do...  but all the remaining media keys are working fine20:06
bryce__unfortunately I have no non-dell laptops20:06
tseliotbryce__: don't worry, I believe you ;)20:07
tjaaltonbryce__: the battery key opens a pop-up that shows how your battery is doing20:07
bryce__huh interesting; never seen that work20:10
bryce_hmm, so I've found with gnome-keybinding-properties, that Suspend was not mapped to a key, and that I could easily map it to that function by just hitting it.  hmm21:22
bryce_still doesn't trigger hibernate though21:22
bryce_tjaalton: what do you see in gnome-keybinding-properties?21:55
tjaaltonbryce: nothing there22:35
tjaaltonalso, evtest doesn't show any output (apart from that initial blurp) when evdev has grabbed the device22:37
tjaaltonforgot about that22:37
brycetjaalton: ah okay, yeah I didn't see output from that either for any buttons22:38
brycewhere does acpi stuff get logged?  mdz said he saw log messages about acpi calls, but didn't say where and I can't find those on my system22:39
tjaaltondunno22:40
brycehrm22:40
brycewell /etc/acpi/*btn.sh don't seem to get called when hitting the corresponding buttons22:40
bryce(or at least, I haven't found evidence they're getting called)22:41
bryceI'm not sure it'd work even if it did get called though...  KEY_SUSPEND=205 however xev shows keycode 213 = (keysym 0x1008ff10, XF86Standby)22:44
brycebut maybe that doesn't matter.  22:44
brycerunning /etc/acpi/sleepbtn.sh does work though... and freezes X on resume22:46
brycebut that's a separate issue22:46
brycefeh22:46
tjaaltonI'll continue with it tomorrow.. night23:02
wgranttjaalton: Not at this point. I'd be happy to work on adding those and other buttons now that it doesn't mean an awful hack in the driver.23:06
wgrantJust on/off, tap-to-click, horiz scroll, vert scroll are options at the moment.23:07
brycenight tjaalton23:13

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