| Odd-rationale | kappabuntu: ctrl+alt+esc then click the window | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| kappabuntu | :D thanks | 00:01 |
| kappabuntu | muahahahahha | 00:01 |
| Odd-rationale | kappabuntu: what's so funny? | 00:02 |
| kappabuntu | I killed the window huhuhu | 00:03 |
| kappabuntu | it's been sitting on workspace 1 for hours now | 00:03 |
| Five | hello | 00:32 |
| Five | looking for help, I'm trying to install xubunutu on my new machine, yet i can't install the base system | 00:33 |
| favro | how are you trying to install Five ? | 00:35 |
| Five | cd | 00:35 |
| Five | i burned it twice use proper speed | 00:36 |
| Five | using* | 00:36 |
| Five | same problem occurs... | 00:36 |
| favro | which cd? live alternate server? | 00:36 |
| Five | yes | 00:36 |
| favro | which cd? live alternate server? | 00:36 |
| Five | xubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso | 00:36 |
| favro | and where does the install stop working? | 00:37 |
| Five | when trying to install Kernal package: 'linux-generic' | 00:38 |
| Five | i can type full msg if u want | 00:38 |
| Five | do u want me to type full msg or not? | 00:40 |
| Odd-rationale | Five: did the install fail? or just taking a long time? | 00:41 |
| zoredache_ | did you try running the cd integrety check? | 00:41 |
| zoredache_ | did you verify the md5 sum of the file you downloaded? | 00:41 |
| === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache | ||
| Five | no | 00:41 |
| Five | let me do that now | 00:41 |
| Five | i didn't verify md5 | 00:42 |
| Five | doing cd integrety check, give me sometime please | 00:42 |
| Five | oh integerity test of cd-rom failed | 00:43 |
| zoredache | no rush... | 00:43 |
| zoredache | if the integrety check on the cd failed, check the md5 sum of the file you downloaded... The sums should be listed on the web site you downlaoded from | 00:44 |
| Five | i downloaded from the official site, let me chevck | 00:44 |
| Five | http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/xubuntu-releases/8.04/release/ | 00:45 |
| Five | this is the link my friend | 00:45 |
| zoredache | the md5 sums for the files are in the file named 'MD5SUMS'. Do you know how to check? | 00:46 |
| zoredache | !md5sums | 00:46 |
| ubottu | See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs. | 00:46 |
| Five | no | 00:46 |
| Five | checking one sec | 00:47 |
| zoredache | I don't think it is on the wiki, but on windows I think (http://www.md5summer.org/) is a good md5 checker | 00:47 |
| Five | aight | 00:48 |
| Five | well i'm new to using linux so i dont know much yet | 00:48 |
| Odd-rationale | we all have to start somewhere... :D | 00:49 |
| Five | =P | 00:49 |
| kappabuntu | i get the giggles browsing crack/serialz sites on with linux | 00:50 |
| kappabuntu | knowing you won't catch the bad internet AIDs | 00:50 |
| Five | HAHAH true | 00:50 |
| Five | same | 00:50 |
| Five | ubuntu live cds rock hehe | 00:51 |
| kappabuntu | I'm not afraid to open that suspicious zip/rar | 00:51 |
| Odd-rationale | Five: are you on windows right now? or livecd? | 00:51 |
| kappabuntu | or you could test them in a virtual XP | 00:51 |
| Odd-rationale | or other...? | 00:51 |
| Five | yes | 00:51 |
| Five | windows | 00:51 |
| Odd-rationale | ok | 00:52 |
| Five | i can run live cd on other machine that i do install on | 00:52 |
| Five | okie md5 test came with tons of errors | 00:52 |
| Five | 1500 | 00:52 |
| Five | or to be honest 1449/1449 | 00:53 |
| Five | i used (http://www.md5summer.org/) to check md5sum.txt on cd in windows | 00:53 |
| Odd-rationale | Five: might have to redownload... | 00:53 |
| Five | ic, okie i will do that man | 00:54 |
| Odd-rationale | Five: also, might i suggest. use the torrent :D | 00:54 |
| Five | okie will do that | 00:54 |
| Five | thanks alot guys, will idle now and download torrent =) | 00:54 |
| newpers | i'm running xubuntu on vmware server and my left arrow keys prints ^[[D in the terminal. is there something i need to configure? | 00:57 |
| Odd-rationale | newpers: it is hard to tell whether this a problem with xfce4-terminal or vmware... but does it do this even at just a plain prompt? | 01:00 |
| newpers | i do not believe so. let me check | 01:01 |
| newpers | thanks for the reply, btw | 01:02 |
| newpers | yes | 01:02 |
| newpers | it does it at the prompt as well | 01:02 |
| Odd-rationale | newpers: hmm. ok. it does that for me only when i have like a process running and i press keys... but not at a prompt... | 01:03 |
| newpers | actually i don't know | 01:03 |
| newpers | let me check again. | 01:03 |
| Odd-rationale | newpers: does it do it if you boot up a livecd? | 01:03 |
| newpers | ok... not at the prompt | 01:03 |
| newpers | i was retarded and tried it at the login prompt | 01:04 |
| Odd-rationale | newpers: yeah. ok. | 01:04 |
| newpers | at normal prompt, it works correctly | 01:04 |
| Odd-rationale | well that is the default behaviour... | 01:04 |
| newpers | xfce4-terminal issue? | 01:04 |
| newpers | man... it's hot in here | 01:05 |
| Odd-rationale | newpers: no... | 01:05 |
| newpers | wow, this is annoying not being able to go forwards or backwards | 01:09 |
| newpers | heh | 01:09 |
| newpers | i will google | 01:09 |
| newpers | again | 01:10 |
| Odd-rationale | newpers: so you cannot use arrow keys in login prompt? | 01:10 |
| newpers | i can | 01:11 |
| newpers | at login prompt it prints ]D. at command prompt all arrows work. at terminal i get ^]]D | 01:11 |
| newpers | ahhh... nm | 01:12 |
| newpers | it was just the stupid scala interpreter | 01:12 |
| newpers | i will use rlwrap | 01:12 |
| newpers | sorry for the problems | 01:12 |
| newpers | thanks, Odd-rationale! | 01:12 |
| Odd-rationale | np | 01:12 |
| asxx | hi anyone here? | 01:38 |
| === Five is now known as FiveBlue | ||
| asxx | i'm here ~ | 02:04 |
| Odd-rationale | k | 02:04 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: first try to find out what driver you are using... | 02:04 |
| asxx | teleportation | 02:04 |
| asxx | in linux | 02:04 |
| asxx | right? | 02:04 |
| Odd-rationale | yes | 02:04 |
| Odd-rationale | in linux | 02:04 |
| asxx | (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets | 02:04 |
| asxx | is this what i'm suppose to look for? | 02:05 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: is that from Xorg.0.log ? | 02:05 |
| asxx | yes | 02:05 |
| asxx | there are lot of "intel" words | 02:05 |
| asxx | (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 965GM | 02:06 |
| asxx | this is also one | 02:06 |
| Odd-rationale | well. then i guess you are using the intel drivers... | 02:06 |
| Odd-rationale | find any vesa? | 02:06 |
| asxx | VESA VBE OEM: Intel(r)Crestline Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS | 02:06 |
| asxx | VESA VBE OEM Product: Intel(r)Crestline Graphics Controller | 02:06 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: about grep. you can do something like "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep vesa" | 02:07 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: but if you are already the intel drivers... then i don't know much else what you can do... | 02:07 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: the windows drivers tend to be more uptodate than linux drivers... as vendors tend to support windows more.. :( | 02:08 |
| asxx | yaeh. | 02:08 |
| asxx | i know :( | 02:08 |
| asxx | which really sucks | 02:08 |
| asxx | but what I'm wondering is | 02:08 |
| asxx | how the hell can those windows people make a game run on windows that linux can not do | 02:09 |
| asxx | same hardware, different OS | 02:09 |
| asxx | one is ok, another one says its too old | 02:09 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: maybe the windows intel drivers are more up to date? | 02:09 |
| Odd-rationale | idk... | 02:10 |
| asxx | ah | 02:10 |
| asxx | sad sad... | 02:10 |
| asxx | I'm going to fix this no matter what | 02:10 |
| asxx | I won't use WINE :( | 02:10 |
| Odd-rationale | i doubt wine would help anyways.. | 02:11 |
| asxx | yeah... | 02:11 |
| asxx | do you think linux could get the wrong driver? | 02:11 |
| asxx | like my device is a but linux put it as b | 02:11 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: well, there is only one intel xorg driver in the repos... | 02:13 |
| asxx | o..... | 02:13 |
| asxx | maybe that is why | 02:13 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: btw, check to see if it is installed: xserver-xorg-video-intel | 02:13 |
| asxx | emma is in this channel too lol | 02:13 |
| asxx | command not found | 02:14 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: no. i mean search in synaptics or aptitude or somthing... | 02:14 |
| asxx | o | 02:14 |
| asxx | xserver-xorg-video-intel is already the newest version. | 02:15 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: ok. so you do have it installed... | 02:15 |
| asxx | yes | 02:15 |
| asxx | did you know that lot of people are coming to linux? | 02:16 |
| asxx | lol random | 02:16 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: well. i don't know what else we can do. excpet wait on intel... | 02:16 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: yeah that is cool | 02:16 |
| asxx | well its laptop anyways.. | 02:16 |
| Odd-rationale | asxx: well i gtg... | 02:17 |
| Odd-rationale | ttly | 02:17 |
| asxx | thank you for the help | 02:17 |
| asxx | see you around | 02:17 |
| FiveBlue | which is faster as a server, ubuntu or xubuntu or debian? | 02:26 |
| cody-somerville | ubuntu and xubuntu are the same thing as a server if you use the server edition | 02:31 |
| FiveBlue | ic | 02:31 |
| FiveBlue | doesn't xubuntu have alower system requiments than both debian and ubuntu. also i heard that ubuntu is built around debian core. am i right | 02:32 |
| asxx | xfce4 tends to run faster than Gnome | 02:34 |
| asxx | but in server edition, it should have no big difference | 02:34 |
| asxx | your getting a server system anyways.. | 02:34 |
| FiveBlue | okie now i got the problem as before guys. I burned a new cd with a new downloaded image (xubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso). Yet i'm not able to install the base system. Kernel package: 'linux-generic' unable to install. Not that i was able to install ubuntu latest server version fine | 02:40 |
| Bikerbob | hello | 02:42 |
| Bikerbob | anyone running on an oldworld mac? | 02:42 |
| asxx | FiveBlue, try I686 | 02:43 |
| asxx | 8.04.x.i686.iso | 02:43 |
| asxx | the new xubuntu should not have any installation problem at all, not that I know of | 02:44 |
| FiveBlue | aight | 02:44 |
| asxx | are you installing through GUI version? | 02:45 |
| asxx | with the live cd | 02:45 |
| FiveBlue | no | 02:45 |
| asxx | how are you installing it | 02:45 |
| FiveBlue | just live cd and install | 02:45 |
| asxx | yes the gui version | 02:45 |
| asxx | graphic user interface | 02:45 |
| FiveBlue | okie | 02:45 |
| asxx | ok than | 02:46 |
| asxx | try i686 | 02:46 |
| FiveBlue | i can't find a link to it | 02:46 |
| asxx | can you tell me where and when it says linux-generic unable to install anyways | 02:46 |
| asxx | ok hold on let me find it | 02:46 |
| FiveBlue | k | 02:46 |
| asxx | whats ur computer spec anyways | 02:46 |
| FiveBlue | really good | 02:46 |
| FiveBlue | intel xeon 2.8 dual | 02:46 |
| FiveBlue | 820 gigs of space, 2 gig of ram | 02:47 |
| asxx | ooo nvm hold on\ | 02:47 |
| FiveBlue | raid 5 hdds | 02:47 |
| asxx | you do have the right version, sorry about that | 02:47 |
| FiveBlue | what u mean by version? | 02:48 |
| asxx | can you tell me where you get the error messege\ | 02:48 |
| asxx | xubuntu.8.04.1.x.i386.iso | 02:48 |
| FiveBlue | well after i set almost all settings and it starts to install the base system it stops | 02:48 |
| FiveBlue | and says unable to install kernel package: linux-generic | 02:48 |
| asxx | how did you set ur settings? | 02:49 |
| FiveBlue | i mean partition size/clock and network using gui | 02:50 |
| asxx | remember, I am trying to solve the problem with you because I am not that educated to help you out 100% | 02:50 |
| asxx | we solve the problem together. :) | 02:50 |
| FiveBlue | hehe no problem man =P | 02:50 |
| asxx | did ubuntu work ? | 02:50 |
| FiveBlue | i'm a college student in IT so i'm not a noob but i'm learning linux now | 02:51 |
| asxx | and xubuntu is the only one that don't work | 02:51 |
| FiveBlue | ubunutu worked fine | 02:51 |
| asxx | which college? | 02:51 |
| FiveBlue | mohawk college nesa program | 02:51 |
| asxx | i'm in university student in CIS | 02:51 |
| asxx | i'm in guelph uni. CIS | 02:51 |
| asxx | anyways off topic lol | 02:51 |
| FiveBlue | network engneering and security analyst third year =) | 02:51 |
| asxx | hold on | 02:51 |
| asxx | i'm very very close to graduating :D | 02:51 |
| FiveBlue | same | 02:51 |
| FiveBlue | but I have to learn linux well, I know windows by heart hehe | 02:52 |
| asxx | how did you set ur partitions | 02:52 |
| asxx | well windows, you get a software and manual and done | 02:52 |
| asxx | don't most of softwares make it easier for admins to use in windows? | 02:52 |
| asxx | but linux is a big more work | 02:52 |
| asxx | anyways once again, hold on ll | 02:52 |
| FiveBlue | well i have raid, so i just told it to use entire space which is 820 gig and it works everytime. it auto does the swap and logical partition | 02:53 |
| FiveBlue | windows is easy but crappy, it is made for conveniance customers. Linux is uber in every other way but just hard to start with | 02:53 |
| asxx | once you master it | 02:54 |
| asxx | you will be like canadian mohawk geneius | 02:54 |
| asxx | bad joke | 02:54 |
| FiveBlue | hehehe =P | 02:54 |
| asxx | anyways, do you want to try to | 02:54 |
| asxx | re partition it again? | 02:54 |
| FiveBlue | i dont think it si the problem, i formatted that machine alot and tried diff ways and it always works howevere i do it | 02:55 |
| FiveBlue | anyways i will install ubuntu again i guess, i'm using cmdline interface anyways | 02:55 |
| asxx | oh | 02:55 |
| asxx | you could try | 02:55 |
| asxx | ALT-F2 | 02:55 |
| asxx | "Chroot /target" | 02:55 |
| asxx | "apt-get install linux-386" | 02:55 |
| FiveBlue | i tried that but for some reason, it was not able to get updates to start with. I tried apt-get install updates | 02:56 |
| asxx | so the only thing that wasn't installed was linux generic ? | 02:56 |
| FiveBlue | and upgrade was same problem, wasn't able to fetch them | 02:56 |
| asxx | how about redownload another xubuntu and try it | 02:57 |
| FiveBlue | yes | 02:57 |
| FiveBlue | did that as well =) | 02:57 |
| asxx | and same shit | 02:57 |
| FiveBlue | same problem, ubuntu desktop same thing as well | 02:57 |
| FiveBlue | only unbuntu server was good | 02:57 |
| asxx | wow.. | 02:57 |
| asxx | well if your going to mess around with servers using linux | 02:58 |
| FiveBlue | yeah i formatted aloooot in a few hours m8 | 02:58 |
| asxx | for your future | 02:58 |
| asxx | try to use LFS | 02:58 |
| asxx | I am doing a programming so I don't need to know a lot of OS and blah blahs. | 02:58 |
| asxx | just C++ is more than enough of my life time | 02:58 |
| FiveBlue | ic, nah i'm a in netowrking mainly | 02:58 |
| asxx | than LFS | 02:58 |
| FiveBlue | so i need to know all types of stuff | 02:59 |
| asxx | you will love it | 02:59 |
| FiveBlue | I think i will do LFS man | 02:59 |
| asxx | do you know about it? | 02:59 |
| FiveBlue | nope | 02:59 |
| FiveBlue | but i cna learn | 02:59 |
| asxx | its Linux From Scratch | 02:59 |
| asxx | it has all the installation guide (which is very very long) | 02:59 |
| asxx | not like other distros, this one you can pick every single packages you want | 02:59 |
| asxx | meaning you won't start with a basic ones | 03:00 |
| asxx | however, you will be able learn a lot, i mean a lot of stuff behind the linux | 03:00 |
| FiveBlue | I have to learn linux anyways, this next year we are taught hacking in linux anad windows for a whole year and i better know my stuff well =) | 03:00 |
| asxx | than LFS | 03:00 |
| asxx | it should take you about a 3~5days | 03:00 |
| asxx | stay away from ubuntu, mint, fedora, etc.. they are good distros and i think its flawless | 03:01 |
| asxx | but LFS is the most valuable distro for you at your position | 03:01 |
| asxx | since you will stick with linux for while | 03:01 |
| FiveBlue | oh yeah linux linux for whiiiile, my prof likes redhat and freebsd | 03:01 |
| asxx | i'm not much fan of freebsd | 03:02 |
| asxx | but i mean don't they use the UNIX? | 03:02 |
| FiveBlue | yes | 03:02 |
| FiveBlue | that's what we learned first in college | 03:02 |
| FiveBlue | then we went to learning linux | 03:02 |
| asxx | Orrrrr | 03:02 |
| FiveBlue | but it is same commands almost | 03:02 |
| asxx | try http://www.archlinux.org/ | 03:02 |
| asxx | archlinux is also great for you to learn linux | 03:02 |
| FiveBlue | i will do it the hard way, scratch will be gooood | 03:03 |
| asxx | it will be good but | 03:03 |
| asxx | I had a massive head hurting | 03:03 |
| asxx | for a whilee | 03:03 |
| asxx | smoked many many cigarettes | 03:03 |
| FiveBlue | hehe too much learning ehh | 03:03 |
| FiveBlue | or problems? | 03:04 |
| FiveBlue | brb phone | 03:04 |
| asxx | problems | 03:04 |
| asxx | you are going to literally build every single thingi there is in linux | 03:04 |
| FiveBlue | back | 03:10 |
| FiveBlue | well it will be fun to build everything and i know it will be hard and lots of headache =P | 03:10 |
| hvgotcodes | with a fresh xubuntu install do i have to install compiz | 04:06 |
| hvgotcodes | ? | 04:06 |
| cody-somerville | http://www.google.com/search?q=xubuntu+compiz&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a | 04:09 |
| Genelyk | xD! | 04:09 |
| Genelyk | well | 04:09 |
| Catoptromancy | = ( | 04:39 |
| Catoptromancy | this channel got smaller | 04:39 |
| Catoptromancy | !bot | 04:40 |
| ubottu | Hi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | 04:40 |
| Catoptromancy | awesome bot is here now | 04:41 |
| Odd-rationale | hi, Catoptromancy | 04:44 |
| Catoptromancy | hi | 04:45 |
| emma | asxx - yep :) | 04:57 |
| Catoptromancy | gnome games? | 05:02 |
| Catoptromancy | in defualt install? | 05:02 |
| Odd-rationale | Catoptromancy: yes | 05:03 |
| Catoptromancy | gnome libs? | 05:03 |
| Odd-rationale | yep | 05:03 |
| Catoptromancy | = ( | 05:04 |
| Catoptromancy | there are gtk versions of nearly all those | 05:04 |
| Odd-rationale | Catoptromancy: for gnome-games? | 05:04 |
| Catoptromancy | without minimal libs | 05:04 |
| Catoptromancy | ya | 05:04 |
| Catoptromancy | heh totem replaces gxine | 05:05 |
| Odd-rationale | yep | 05:05 |
| Catoptromancy | well totem isnt as aweful | 05:05 |
| Catoptromancy | gxine on any distro was mostly lockups | 05:05 |
| Odd-rationale | nope. youtube integration is cool... | 05:05 |
| Catoptromancy | running zine directly was alot better heh | 05:05 |
| Odd-rationale | i like vlc | 05:08 |
| Catoptromancy | xfmedia was cool, but still early beta is seems | 05:08 |
| Catoptromancy | looks like development has slowed or stopped | 05:08 |
| Catoptromancy | very simple, yet did everything | 05:08 |
| Odd-rationale | i know. | 05:08 |
| Catoptromancy | dvds, cds, all kinds of music files | 05:09 |
| Odd-rationale | many xfce projects sometimes stalls... | 05:09 |
| Catoptromancy | alsaplayer is awesome though | 05:09 |
| greenman | How do you use apt-get to get a specific version? I have php 5.1.2 and need 5.1.3 | 05:16 |
| Odd-rationale | funny how many people don't wait for answers... | 05:26 |
| R1cochet | how can i make xubuntu start w/ numkey enabled? | 05:27 |
| Odd-rationale | !numlock | R1cochet | 05:27 |
| ubottu | R1cochet: To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock | 05:27 |
| R1cochet | ty much | 05:28 |
| Chetyre | Quick question, is there any way to easily add programs to the applications menu? xfce menu editor isn't doing it for me | 06:05 |
| Catoptromancy | = ( | 06:06 |
| Odd-rationale | Chetyre: well that is something the xfce dev are working on for the next release afaik | 06:07 |
| Odd-rationale | Chetyre: due on th 28 if it is released on time.. | 06:07 |
| Chetyre | Ok, cool. I mean, I know how to add things to the menu but I want to be able to sort them into submenus which I apparently can't :P | 06:07 |
| Chetyre | And hey, that's my birthday! What a nice present | 06:08 |
| Odd-rationale | Chetyre: but take a look at http://wiki.xfce.org/tips#how_to_add_or_remove_applications_in_the_system_menu | 06:08 |
| Chetyre | Odd-rationale: oh, ok. That should work. Thanks | 06:10 |
| Chetyre | Odd-rationale: still around? | 06:38 |
| skep | ah great..according to virtualbox the kernel-bug is fxed in their upcoming bug-release (2.0.2) | 06:52 |
| Catoptromancy | kernel bug? | 06:53 |
| Catoptromancy | sounds like something I had | 06:53 |
| skep | Catoptromancy: there is a big thread on launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/246067 | 06:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 246067 in linux "Kernel panic during boot in VirtualBox with kernel 2.6.26.*-generic" [High,Fix committed] | 06:54 |
| Catoptromancy | hmm no kernel panics | 06:54 |
| Catoptromancy | just really really bad performace | 06:54 |
| skep | there was a temporary fix which resulted in bad performance afaik.. | 06:55 |
| Catoptromancy | ubuntu could barely keep resolution setting from going off screen | 06:55 |
| Catoptromancy | and kept getting worse | 06:55 |
| Catoptromancy | reactos just froze. | 06:55 |
| Catoptromancy | old vbox worked fine | 06:55 |
| Catoptromancy | does a deb have to be gpl to be in repos? | 07:05 |
| Catoptromancy | this app has a thrown together license, similar...but says nothing about keeping source open | 07:06 |
| skep | i think it depends on the repo | 07:07 |
| skep | there are different ones | 07:07 |
| Catoptromancy | something easily added will apt-get or add/remove? | 07:07 |
| Catoptromancy | ya I guess, there are nonfree packages in add/remove | 07:08 |
| tomboy64 | i'm having a fresh install of gutsy and wanna try install libqt4-core and libqt4-gui - but both packages can't be found. | 11:30 |
| tomboy64 | command is "apt-get install libqt4-core" | 11:30 |
| TheSheep | gutsy is pretty old... | 11:33 |
| TheSheep | it's possible it didn't have qt4 yet | 11:33 |
| tomboy64 | how can i check? | 11:35 |
| tomboy64 | and i'm pretty sure it is | 11:35 |
| TheSheep | packages.ubuntu.com | 11:36 |
| TheSheep | there is a search | 11:36 |
| tomboy64 | cause i got the info from a tutorial to install it | 11:36 |
| tomboy64 | well, it's listed as libraries there | 11:37 |
| TheSheep | in which repository? | 11:38 |
| TheSheep | maybe you have to add it to your sources list? | 11:38 |
| tomboy64 | http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/ | 11:38 |
| tomboy64 | TheSheep: how do i check it is in my list? | 11:39 |
| TheSheep | system->software sources | 11:39 |
| tomboy64 | and what am i looking for there? | 11:40 |
| TheSheep | !info libqt4-core | 11:40 |
| ubottu | libqt4-core (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 core non-GUI functionality runtime library. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.4-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 1993 kB, installed size 5712 kB | 11:40 |
| TheSheep | tomboy64: the 'component' part | 11:40 |
| TheSheep | in this case, for hardy, it's 'main' | 11:40 |
| tomboy64 | uhm | 11:44 |
| tomboy64 | yeah | 11:44 |
| tomboy64 | component main is there | 11:44 |
| tomboy64 | gutsy main restricted | 11:44 |
| tomboy64 | TheSheep: ? | 11:44 |
| TheSheep | no idea then | 11:45 |
| TheSheep | check on the page if it's really in main in gutsy | 11:45 |
| TheSheep | the above info was for hardy | 11:45 |
| tomboy64 | uhm | 11:46 |
| tomboy64 | on that page it says red "security" | 11:46 |
| moonbeam__ | Can anyone tell me where the option is on xubuntu to change to a window's workspace when activated instead of bring the window to the current workspace? | 13:25 |
| moonbeam__ | I have it configured on my Gentoo machine at home so I know xfce supports it. | 13:25 |
| TheSheep | moonbeam__: it's in the text config file | 13:49 |
| TheSheep | moonbeam__: http://wiki.sheep.art.pl/Firefox and XFCE4 | 13:49 |
| TheSheep | moonbeam__: http://wiki.sheep.art.pl/Firefox%20and%20XFCE4 | 13:50 |
| TheSheep | sorry | 13:50 |
| whileimhere | Hi. Each time I move my mouse cursor to the edge of the screen it changes work spaces. How can I stop that? | 14:14 |
| Iskr | in workspace settings | 14:15 |
| Iskr | no | 14:15 |
| Iskr | i don't remember, even if i switched that thing off myself | 14:16 |
| TheSheep | whileimhere: in window manager settings, third tab I think | 14:17 |
| whileimhere | thanks | 14:20 |
| moonbeam__ | TheSheep, Thanks. | 14:27 |
| ShackJack | Hi all -having a HAL problem after an Xubuntu Hardy upgrade... After logging in, I get a pop-window "Fatal: Error - Failed to Initialize HAL", and my wireless nor plug-in drives aren't recognized. I also can't get into anything under the System/Admin menu (Configuration could not be loaded). Looked around on forums but can't find anything - any suggestions? | 14:29 |
| TheSheep | ShackJack: annything in logs? | 14:30 |
| TheSheep | ShackJack: check dmesg and /var/log/syslog | 14:30 |
| ShackJack | TheSheep: Not sure - which one shoudl I check - I watch the startup prompts but didn't see anything unusual | 14:30 |
| ShackJack | Ahh O.K. one sec... | 14:30 |
| moonbeam__ | TheSheep, strangely it was in one of the Configuration GUIs on my Gentoo install... so I'm wondering if upstream removed it or xubuntu did | 14:31 |
| ShackJack | TheSheep: I grepped HAL but didn't fin anything - scanning now - is there something else in particualr I should be searching for? | 14:32 |
| TheSheep | moonbeam__: no, they added it in later xfce versions, maybe gentoo backported that | 14:33 |
| TheSheep | ShackJack: I have no idea | 14:33 |
| TheSheep | ShackJack: you could also try restarting HAL from terminal and see ify ou get any messages | 14:33 |
| TheSheep | ShackJack: with 'sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart' | 14:34 |
| ShackJack | Hmm... no messages | 14:34 |
| moonbeam__ | TheSheep, well I use the xfce overlay on Gentoo which pulls from trunk... so that makes sense. Anyway, thanks... things are working now. | 14:35 |
| moonbeam__ | later. | 14:35 |
| ShackJack | Not giving me any messages - and Its not recognizing plug-in USE drive or letting me into amdin menu... | 14:35 |
| cody-somerville | \o/ | 14:37 |
| TheSheep | amdin menu? | 14:38 |
| ShackJack | TheSheep: The "System" Menu in Xubuntu - says it can't load configuration stuff... | 14:39 |
| TheSheep | ShackJack: when you type 'sudo apt-get install -x', does it want to install anything? | 14:41 |
| TheSheep | sorry | 14:41 |
| TheSheep | not -x, -f | 14:41 |
| ShackJack | TheSheep: Don't have wireless... | 14:45 |
| TheSheep | does it try to install anything? | 14:45 |
| ShackJack | TheSheep: I'm popping in the 8.04 install disc... hopefully I can do a fresh install (as opposed to upgrading from 7.04 which took ages)... | 14:48 |
| ShackJack | Normally I would trouble shoot but don't have the luxury in this case | 14:48 |
| ShackJack | And its a fresh install and partitioned home so should be a big diead if the install can get past the "Scanning file system" part.t.. | 14:48 |
| ShackJack | It got caught on detecting file systems last time though... Ooops look like it got past it! *crosses fingers* | 14:49 |
| ShackJack | Thanks for the help nonethe less ;) | 14:50 |
| TheSheep | ShackJack: good luck | 14:50 |
| ShackJack | (Hope fully HAL will work when I retsart)... | 14:50 |
| ShackJack | Well I had to leave it while it was upgrading last night - and when I came in, I could get the screen to wake, up... So assuming it was done and just waiting for a restart, I powered down... | 14:50 |
| TheSheep | oops | 14:51 |
| ShackJack | TheSheep: Yeah, not much else I could at that point :) | 15:00 |
| ShackJack | It's a very Old computer too.. **IBM** Thinkpad iSeries with a whopping 6GB drive... I pumped up the memory to 192 MB though (from 64MB) | 15:00 |
| TheSheep | you could check the thinkwiki | 15:02 |
| TheSheep | I remember it has some nice resources about installing ubuntu | 15:02 |
| ShackJack | TheSheep: Hopefully it'll be uneventful... I've been throught quite a few Ubuntu installs ;) Though not Xubuntu so much... | 15:08 |
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| ShackJack | HI all - I have a fresh install of Xubuntu (on an *old* computer) and all is well.. The only issue is that wireless networking does not bring up WPA/WPA2 as encryptions options for connecting to networks... I have wpasupplicant installed. I was wondering if there was anything else I needed to do, or is the old PCMIA Belkin Wi-Fi card maybe not up to the task of WPA (i.e. is the protocol hardware dependent?) | 17:10 |
| * pleia2 winces a bit at the mention of old belkin pcmcia card | 17:11 | |
| ShackJack | :) | 17:11 |
| pleia2 | ShackJack: my first step would be putting the exact model name into google with a search for linux support | 17:11 |
| pleia2 | depending on the model, you might luck out and get a chipset you can get working without too many headaches | 17:11 |
| * pleia2 got unlucky, ebayed at $10 linksys and saved tons of headaches | 17:12 | |
| ShackJack | pleia2: The card otherwise works fine actually, it's just that WPA/WPA2 don't come up as options when connecting to another network.... Open networks work fine and WEP are in there as options... | 17:12 |
| pleia2 | s/at/a | 17:12 |
| pleia2 | aah, I see | 17:12 |
| ShackJack | I wasn't sure if older wifi card didn't "support" WPA or something like that? | 17:12 |
| pleia2 | in that case, it probably isn't the card | 17:12 |
| pleia2 | but I'll have to defer to someone more knowledgeable with wireless | 17:13 |
| ShackJack | Do you know is support for the encryption built into the hardware or is it all drivers? | 17:13 |
| pleia2 | AFAIK it's handled by the software drivers | 17:14 |
| ShackJack | Funny to see this *IBM* iSeries with a Celeron (Coppermine) 499Mhz and 6GB drive running a full-featured Xubuntu desktop ;) | 17:14 |
| ShackJack | Can't play Flash video worth a damn though - more like a slideshow :) | 17:15 |
| pleia2 | I was running a similarly speced dell laptop until just a couple months ago (screen cracked - I would have kept using it!) | 17:15 |
| ShackJack | It'd make a good net browser with higher res screen... but Flash video is a sticking point... It'll just be used mostly a as spare email checker though.. | 17:16 |
| * pleia2 liked the "sorry I'm on my old laptop" excuse for not watching the silly flash stuff people send to her ;) | 17:17 | |
| ShackJack | :) | 17:18 |
| ShackJack | pleia2: You'd think flash would run a bit better on those specs... It's not like old machines couldn't run video... | 17:19 |
| ShackJack | I' | 17:19 |
| ShackJack | I'll try my ?? in the general ubuntu forum & see if I get any bites... Thanks for the help pleia2 | 17:19 |
| pleia2 | ShackJack: more ram might help, mine only had 128M | 17:19 |
| pleia2 | good luck | 17:19 |
| JinKazama | hi all | 17:56 |
| zoredache_ | hellow | 17:57 |
| JinKazama | when I set Thunar File manager to shows hiden files when I open some directory , Thunar "freezes" a lot | 17:57 |
| JinKazama | haw to fix this ? | 17:57 |
| zoredache_ | once it has become frozen, does it come back, or do you have to kill it? | 17:58 |
| JinKazama | some thimes must to kill him | 17:58 |
| JinKazama | it freezes for more than 2 - 3 min. | 17:59 |
| JinKazama | -Computer- | 18:01 |
| JinKazama | Processor: 2x AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60 | 18:01 |
| JinKazama | Memory: 905MB (549MB used) | 18:01 |
| JinKazama | Operating System: Ubuntu 8.04.1 | 18:01 |
| zoredache_ | do you have any network shares mounted perhaps? | 18:01 |
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| JinKazama | how to get ths ? | 18:02 |
| JinKazama | *this | 18:02 |
| zoredache | how to get what? | 18:02 |
| JinKazama | if I have network shares or mounted ? | 18:03 |
| JinKazama | I don't know ... :) | 18:03 |
| zoredache | you would probably remeber. It would have required you to install additional software or tweaked configuration files | 18:03 |
| JinKazama | Shred Directories : -SAMBA- , -NFS- | 18:05 |
| JinKazama | http://pastebin.com/d48a536aa | 18:07 |
| JinKazama | is my shares and mounts are OK ? | 18:08 |
| ozkugh | hi | 18:17 |
| ozkugh | good morning | 18:20 |
| Danu | Hi i need help i'm a total rookie! | 18:24 |
| Danu | first how do i change the menu? | 18:24 |
| cody-somerville | How do you want to change it? | 18:24 |
| Danu | it's that the wine icons | 18:25 |
| cody-somerville | You have to modify the application's desktop file | 18:25 |
| Danu | how? | 18:25 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: http://wiki.xfce.org/tips#how_to_add_or_remove_applications_in_the_system_menu | 18:26 |
| Odd-rationale | see it that helps | 18:26 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: is it wine apps that you have uninstalled? | 18:27 |
| Danu | yes | 18:27 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: iirc, the .desktop files for those can be found in ~/.local ... | 18:27 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: if you do not need them, then you could probably just safely delete the .desktop files all together... | 18:28 |
| Danu | the thing is that not appear in wine, the appear in "others" | 18:28 |
| Odd-rationale | oh. i see... | 18:29 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: so what is in "Others"? | 18:29 |
| Danu | yes | 18:30 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: what do you have in "Others" that you want to have in wine? | 18:30 |
| Danu | well i don't want it in any place, but , yes | 18:31 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: what is the name? | 18:31 |
| Danu | Others | 18:32 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: i mean, what is the name of the applicaion that is in others. | 18:32 |
| Danu | uff, Ares, Utorrent, Emule, Google Chrome, i don't have any of them anymore | 18:33 |
| Odd-rationale | oh ok. i get it now... | 18:34 |
| Danu | i uninstall them like 1 month ago (with ubuntu) | 18:34 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: try looking in your ~/.local folder for the .desktop files... | 18:34 |
| Danu | except chrome of course | 18:34 |
| Danu | i don't see the .desktop folder | 18:35 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: you might have to go to view --> show hiddne files | 18:35 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: any file that has a | 18:35 |
| Odd-rationale | "." | 18:35 |
| Odd-rationale | in front of it is a hiddenfile | 18:35 |
| Danu | i know i don't see it | 18:36 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: look for the ~/.local folder | 18:37 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: you might find the desktop files in there, iirc | 18:37 |
| Danu | i look in /home/daniel ctrl+h and nothing i don't see .dekstop | 18:38 |
| Danu | desktop* | 18:38 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: ok. i think i didn't make myself clear... :| let's try that again... | 18:39 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: look for a ~/.local folder. | 18:39 |
| Odd-rationale | there is no ~/.desktop folder | 18:39 |
| Danu | any folder? | 18:39 |
| Odd-rationale | and in the ~/.local folder, look for .desktop *files*. e.g. chrome.desktop, emule.desktop, etc... | 18:40 |
| Danu | ok | 18:40 |
| Danu | i see it now | 18:41 |
| Danu | but the left button of the mouse does not work, how do i send it to trash? | 18:41 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: try shift+del | 18:45 |
| Danu | sorry it was a blackout | 18:46 |
| Danu | i don't know how to say it in english!! | 18:47 |
| Danu | somebody speaks spanish? | 18:47 |
| Danu | well the computer doesn't response! | 18:48 |
| Odd-rationale | !es | Danu | 18:49 |
| ubottu | Danu: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. | 18:49 |
| Danu | nobody answer me in those channels they say thet use gnome and kde and send me here! | 18:50 |
| Odd-rationale | :( | 18:50 |
| Danu | that's my worry | 18:51 |
| Danu | they sometimes are kinda mean, when i say that i use xfce :( | 18:51 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: but were you able to delete those files? | 18:52 |
| Odd-rationale | like with shift+del ? | 18:53 |
| Danu | no, the left button doesn't work i don't know why!!! | 18:53 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: have another mouse? | 18:53 |
| * Markopotomus has a question about how to see nfs drives/paritions on the same machine in Xubuntu, but assumes it's an FAQ so is checking the wiki... | 18:54 | |
| Danu | no :( | 18:54 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: so how do you click on anything? | 18:54 |
| Danu | that's the thing, work in others places but not there! | 18:55 |
| Danu | al entrar a home se cuelga | 18:56 |
| Danu | sorry* | 18:57 |
| Danu | enter home doesn't work | 18:57 |
| * Markopotomus has found what he's looking for. | 18:57 | |
| Danu | well thenks anyway i will have to stay with gnome and kde :( | 18:59 |
| Danu | bye | 18:59 |
| Odd-rationale | Danu: ok. see you! hope you come back :) | 18:59 |
| Danu | i hope 2! | 18:59 |
| Odd-rationale | sorry i couldn't help more... | 18:59 |
| frenzy42 | how does one do full disk encryption in xubuntu | 18:59 |
| Odd-rationale | frenzy42: the same way you do it in the other buntus... :P | 19:00 |
| Odd-rationale | frenzy42: get the alternative cd... | 19:00 |
| frenzy42 | ok, i didn't know if it was on the alternate of xubuntu | 19:00 |
| frenzy42 | i knew is was there for ubuntu | 19:00 |
| Odd-rationale | in the partitin step, select full disk encryption. | 19:00 |
| frenzy42 | ok | 19:00 |
| frenzy42 | thanks! | 19:01 |
| * Markopotomus is completely sorted. ALl disks mounted. Sweet. | 19:01 | |
| Catoptromancy | 'hmmm | 19:14 |
| Catoptromancy | why is the encryption option only on alternate cd? | 19:14 |
| Odd-rationale | idk... | 19:14 |
| Odd-rationale | cd disk space? | 19:15 |
| Catoptromancy | this desktop iso im torrenting is 544 mbs | 19:15 |
| Catoptromancy | = ( | 19:22 |
| Catoptromancy | i wish they could just merge alternate and desktop | 19:23 |
| Catoptromancy | hmm maybe I can figure it out and make my own | 19:23 |
| Catoptromancy | heh | 19:23 |
| Odd-rationale | Catoptromancy: there is the ubuntu dvd... which has the desktop, alternative, and server disks all in one... | 19:28 |
| Catoptromancy | hmm I didnt see it | 19:29 |
| Catoptromancy | xubuntu? | 19:29 |
| Catoptromancy | or gnome | 19:29 |
| Odd-rationale | one problem, however, is most older machine can't boot from dvd... | 19:29 |
| Catoptromancy | ill looking into creating one | 19:29 |
| Odd-rationale | Catoptromancy: ubuntu and kubuntu... | 19:29 |
| Catoptromancy | on cd | 19:29 |
| Catoptromancy | depends on how old heh | 19:29 |
| Catoptromancy | my really old PC cant even install alternate | 19:29 |
| Catoptromancy | with slelective packages I can fit both on same cd | 19:30 |
| Catoptromancy | with xfce | 19:30 |
| Catoptromancy | probably lose the gnome apps, keep OOo | 19:30 |
| Catoptromancy | still enough packages to be very use as default install | 19:31 |
| Odd-rationale | i prefer the alt cd anyways... :D | 19:32 |
| Catoptromancy | ya but having a live one around is cool | 19:33 |
| Catoptromancy | all I have is alternates | 19:33 |
| Catoptromancy | the dvd looks cool | 19:34 |
| Catoptromancy | xfce version would be awesome | 19:35 |
| Odd-rationale | 4gb to download... :| | 19:35 |
| Catoptromancy | can even fit kde and xfce on same dvd | 19:35 |
| Catoptromancy | probably gnome | 19:35 |
| Catoptromancy | ahh | 20:03 |
| Catoptromancy | guess ill be stuck to a few discs | 20:03 |
| Catoptromancy | seems best way | 20:04 |
| R1cochet | when i try to add files to list in brasero to burn i get " "can't be handled by gstreamer: Make sure the appropriate codec is installed." | 20:32 |
| R1cochet | but i can play the files in audacious | 20:32 |
| Odd-rationale | R1cochet: well. audacious doesn't use gstreamer afaik... | 20:35 |
| R1cochet | ok so then im gonna need to install gstreamer? | 20:35 |
| Odd-rationale | R1cochet: search synaptics for gstreamer and see if there are any codecs you need to install | 20:35 |
| R1cochet | cool | 20:35 |
| Odd-rationale | R1cochet: although i would think that xubuntu-restricted-extras would have it all ... :| idk... | 20:35 |
| R1cochet | do i need plugins-good-dbg? | 20:40 |
| Odd-rationale | R1cochet: no. none of the debugs stuff are needed.. | 20:41 |
| R1cochet | fluendo-mp3? | 20:42 |
| Odd-rationale | R1cochet: maybe, yeah... | 20:42 |
| R1cochet | ok cuz i have plugins-good and plugins-base | 20:43 |
| Odd-rationale | R1cochet: do you have the gstreamer ugly plugins? | 20:44 |
| R1cochet | nope | 20:44 |
| R1cochet | nor the bad plugins | 20:45 |
| Odd-rationale | R1cochet: that might be the one you need. or just get the xubuntu-restricted-extras meta packages which will pull it in. along with some other good stuff... :P | 20:45 |
| R1cochet | well that fluendo did the trick | 20:46 |
| Odd-rationale | ok | 20:46 |
| R1cochet | but on this xubuntu-restricted-extras meta packages will that be under gstream? | 20:46 |
| Odd-rationale | R1cochet: no. search synaptics for xubuntu-restricted-extras | 20:47 |
| ShackJack | Hi all - I have an odd wi-fi problem with a fresh Hardy install... The Belkin PCMCIA card I have in my (old) notebook works fine with unsecured network (haven't tried WEP), but WPA/WPA2 don't even show up as options for those kinds of networks. Though I can see SSIDS of WPA/WPA2 networks. I have wpa_supplicant installed... Any thoughts? | 20:47 |
| R1cochet | ty much odd | 20:47 |
| R1cochet | nice package ty odd | 20:50 |
| Odd-rationale | R1cochet: np | 20:53 |
| Jayson_kalmon | hi folks, im new to xubuntu and have a question i hope you can help | 20:54 |
| Jayson_kalmon | I have the samsung r70 laptop but i cannot get the FN-Keys to work, can ynybody help me? | 20:54 |
| R1cochet | odd: is there a way to have numkeys enabled on start? i hate having to press numlock all the time | 20:55 |
| Odd-rationale | !numlock | R1cochet | 20:55 |
| ubottu | R1cochet: To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock | 20:55 |
| Jayson_kalmon | i can set the laptop in sleep mode with the fn keys but i cant adjust brightness or sound | 20:56 |
| Jayson_kalmon | odd: I have the samsung r70 laptop but i cannot get the FN-Keys to work | 20:59 |
| Odd-rationale | Jayson_kalmon: must be your keyboard model... i really don't know the fox though... try the forums... | 20:59 |
| Odd-rationale | *fix | 20:59 |
| Jayson_kalmon | odd: adjust brightness | 21:10 |
| Jayson_kalmon | odd: is there a package for adjusting brightness with fn keys? | 21:11 |
| Odd-rationale | Jayson_kalmon: no there is not... :( | 21:12 |
| Jayson_kalmon | damn, thx anyway | 21:12 |
| Jayson_kalmon | odd: how can i view other partitions? | 21:29 |
| R1cochet | jayson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G | 21:35 |
| R1cochet | just installed it and works fine | 21:35 |
| Jayson_kalmon | thx | 21:35 |
| jimmy_birer | hi allz | 21:41 |
| jimmy_birer | intrepid alpha was released?=-O | 21:42 |
| R1cochet | hi | 21:42 |
| jimmy_birer | Lol | 21:42 |
| jimmy_birer | it rocks | 21:42 |
| jimmy_birer | i will upgrade to it | 21:42 |
| jimmy_birer | if i can=( | 21:42 |
| jimmy_birer | do you play ricochet? | 21:42 |
| jimmy_birer | i love that game | 21:42 |
| R1cochet | play what? | 21:44 |
| R1cochet | intrepid alpha? | 21:44 |
| R1cochet | whats the command for terminal? | 21:51 |
| R1cochet | would like to add it to cairo | 21:54 |
| zoredache | there is a game named R1cochet that comes as part of the orange box | 21:57 |
| R1cochet | ohh | 22:01 |
| R1cochet | i got this nick from a song title | 22:01 |
| R1cochet | then changed the i to 1 | 22:01 |
| zoredache | ah | 22:08 |
| WebGuest1 | if i can't compile a kernel for my nvidia drivers, what do i download and where do i put it so i can run the nvidia install script? (no access to internet to get cc) | 22:21 |
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