[00:00] kappabuntu: ctrl+alt+esc then click the window [00:01] :D thanks [00:01] muahahahahha [00:02] kappabuntu: what's so funny? [00:03] I killed the window huhuhu [00:03] it's been sitting on workspace 1 for hours now [00:32] hello [00:33] looking for help, I'm trying to install xubunutu on my new machine, yet i can't install the base system [00:35] how are you trying to install Five ? [00:35] cd [00:36] i burned it twice use proper speed [00:36] using* [00:36] same problem occurs... [00:36] which cd? live alternate server? [00:36] yes [00:36] which cd? live alternate server? [00:36] xubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso [00:37] and where does the install stop working? [00:38] when trying to install Kernal package: 'linux-generic' [00:38] i can type full msg if u want [00:40] do u want me to type full msg or not? [00:41] Five: did the install fail? or just taking a long time? [00:41] did you try running the cd integrety check? [00:41] did you verify the md5 sum of the file you downloaded? === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [00:41] no [00:41] let me do that now [00:42] i didn't verify md5 [00:42] doing cd integrety check, give me sometime please [00:43] oh integerity test of cd-rom failed [00:43] no rush... [00:44] if the integrety check on the cd failed, check the md5 sum of the file you downloaded... The sums should be listed on the web site you downlaoded from [00:44] i downloaded from the official site, let me chevck [00:45] http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/xubuntu-releases/8.04/release/ [00:45] this is the link my friend [00:46] the md5 sums for the files are in the file named 'MD5SUMS'. Do you know how to check? [00:46] !md5sums [00:46] See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs. [00:46] no [00:47] checking one sec [00:47] I don't think it is on the wiki, but on windows I think (http://www.md5summer.org/) is a good md5 checker [00:48] aight [00:48] well i'm new to using linux so i dont know much yet [00:49] we all have to start somewhere... :D [00:49] =P [00:50] i get the giggles browsing crack/serialz sites on with linux [00:50] knowing you won't catch the bad internet AIDs [00:50] HAHAH true [00:50] same [00:51] ubuntu live cds rock hehe [00:51] I'm not afraid to open that suspicious zip/rar [00:51] Five: are you on windows right now? or livecd? [00:51] or you could test them in a virtual XP [00:51] or other...? [00:51] yes [00:51] windows [00:52] ok [00:52] i can run live cd on other machine that i do install on [00:52] okie md5 test came with tons of errors [00:52] 1500 [00:53] or to be honest 1449/1449 [00:53] i used (http://www.md5summer.org/) to check md5sum.txt on cd in windows [00:53] Five: might have to redownload... [00:54] ic, okie i will do that man [00:54] Five: also, might i suggest. use the torrent :D [00:54] okie will do that [00:54] thanks alot guys, will idle now and download torrent =) [00:57] i'm running xubuntu on vmware server and my left arrow keys prints ^[[D in the terminal. is there something i need to configure? [01:00] newpers: it is hard to tell whether this a problem with xfce4-terminal or vmware... but does it do this even at just a plain prompt? [01:01] i do not believe so. let me check [01:02] thanks for the reply, btw [01:02] yes [01:02] it does it at the prompt as well [01:03] newpers: hmm. ok. it does that for me only when i have like a process running and i press keys... but not at a prompt... [01:03] actually i don't know [01:03] let me check again. [01:03] newpers: does it do it if you boot up a livecd? [01:03] ok... not at the prompt [01:04] i was retarded and tried it at the login prompt [01:04] newpers: yeah. ok. [01:04] at normal prompt, it works correctly [01:04] well that is the default behaviour... [01:04] xfce4-terminal issue? [01:05] man... it's hot in here [01:05] newpers: no... [01:09] wow, this is annoying not being able to go forwards or backwards [01:09] heh [01:09] i will google [01:10] again [01:10] newpers: so you cannot use arrow keys in login prompt? [01:11] i can [01:11] at login prompt it prints ]D. at command prompt all arrows work. at terminal i get ^]]D [01:12] ahhh... nm [01:12] it was just the stupid scala interpreter [01:12] i will use rlwrap [01:12] sorry for the problems [01:12] thanks, Odd-rationale! [01:12] np [01:38] hi anyone here? === Five is now known as FiveBlue [02:04] i'm here ~ [02:04] k [02:04] asxx: first try to find out what driver you are using... [02:04] teleportation [02:04] in linux [02:04] right? [02:04] yes [02:04] in linux [02:04] (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets [02:05] is this what i'm suppose to look for? [02:05] asxx: is that from Xorg.0.log ? [02:05] yes [02:05] there are lot of "intel" words [02:06] (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 965GM [02:06] this is also one [02:06] well. then i guess you are using the intel drivers... [02:06] find any vesa? [02:06] VESA VBE OEM: Intel(r)Crestline Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS [02:06] VESA VBE OEM Product: Intel(r)Crestline Graphics Controller [02:07] asxx: about grep. you can do something like "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep vesa" [02:07] asxx: but if you are already the intel drivers... then i don't know much else what you can do... [02:08] asxx: the windows drivers tend to be more uptodate than linux drivers... as vendors tend to support windows more.. :( [02:08] yaeh. [02:08] i know :( [02:08] which really sucks [02:08] but what I'm wondering is [02:09] how the hell can those windows people make a game run on windows that linux can not do [02:09] same hardware, different OS [02:09] one is ok, another one says its too old [02:09] asxx: maybe the windows intel drivers are more up to date? [02:10] idk... [02:10] ah [02:10] sad sad... [02:10] I'm going to fix this no matter what [02:10] I won't use WINE :( [02:11] i doubt wine would help anyways.. [02:11] yeah... [02:11] do you think linux could get the wrong driver? [02:11] like my device is a but linux put it as b [02:13] asxx: well, there is only one intel xorg driver in the repos... [02:13] o..... [02:13] maybe that is why [02:13] asxx: btw, check to see if it is installed: xserver-xorg-video-intel [02:13] emma is in this channel too lol [02:14] command not found [02:14] asxx: no. i mean search in synaptics or aptitude or somthing... [02:14] o [02:15] xserver-xorg-video-intel is already the newest version. [02:15] asxx: ok. so you do have it installed... [02:15] yes [02:16] did you know that lot of people are coming to linux? [02:16] lol random [02:16] asxx: well. i don't know what else we can do. excpet wait on intel... [02:16] asxx: yeah that is cool [02:16] well its laptop anyways.. [02:17] asxx: well i gtg... [02:17] ttly [02:17] thank you for the help [02:17] see you around [02:26] which is faster as a server, ubuntu or xubuntu or debian? [02:31] ubuntu and xubuntu are the same thing as a server if you use the server edition [02:31] ic [02:32] doesn't xubuntu have alower system requiments than both debian and ubuntu. also i heard that ubuntu is built around debian core. am i right [02:34] xfce4 tends to run faster than Gnome [02:34] but in server edition, it should have no big difference [02:34] your getting a server system anyways.. [02:40] okie now i got the problem as before guys. I burned a new cd with a new downloaded image (xubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso). Yet i'm not able to install the base system. Kernel package: 'linux-generic' unable to install. Not that i was able to install ubuntu latest server version fine [02:42] hello [02:42] anyone running on an oldworld mac? [02:43] FiveBlue, try I686 [02:43] 8.04.x.i686.iso [02:44] the new xubuntu should not have any installation problem at all, not that I know of [02:44] aight [02:45] are you installing through GUI version? [02:45] with the live cd [02:45] no [02:45] how are you installing it [02:45] just live cd and install [02:45] yes the gui version [02:45] graphic user interface [02:45] okie [02:46] ok than [02:46] try i686 [02:46] i can't find a link to it [02:46] can you tell me where and when it says linux-generic unable to install anyways [02:46] ok hold on let me find it [02:46] k [02:46] whats ur computer spec anyways [02:46] really good [02:46] intel xeon 2.8 dual [02:47] 820 gigs of space, 2 gig of ram [02:47] ooo nvm hold on\ [02:47] raid 5 hdds [02:47] you do have the right version, sorry about that [02:48] what u mean by version? [02:48] can you tell me where you get the error messege\ [02:48] xubuntu.8.04.1.x.i386.iso [02:48] well after i set almost all settings and it starts to install the base system it stops [02:48] and says unable to install kernel package: linux-generic [02:49] how did you set ur settings? [02:50] i mean partition size/clock and network using gui [02:50] remember, I am trying to solve the problem with you because I am not that educated to help you out 100% [02:50] we solve the problem together. :) [02:50] hehe no problem man =P [02:50] did ubuntu work ? [02:51] i'm a college student in IT so i'm not a noob but i'm learning linux now [02:51] and xubuntu is the only one that don't work [02:51] ubunutu worked fine [02:51] which college? [02:51] mohawk college nesa program [02:51] i'm in university student in CIS [02:51] i'm in guelph uni. CIS [02:51] anyways off topic lol [02:51] network engneering and security analyst third year =) [02:51] hold on [02:51] i'm very very close to graduating :D [02:51] same [02:52] but I have to learn linux well, I know windows by heart hehe [02:52] how did you set ur partitions [02:52] well windows, you get a software and manual and done [02:52] don't most of softwares make it easier for admins to use in windows? [02:52] but linux is a big more work [02:52] anyways once again, hold on ll [02:53] well i have raid, so i just told it to use entire space which is 820 gig and it works everytime. it auto does the swap and logical partition [02:53] windows is easy but crappy, it is made for conveniance customers. Linux is uber in every other way but just hard to start with [02:54] once you master it [02:54] you will be like canadian mohawk geneius [02:54] bad joke [02:54] hehehe =P [02:54] anyways, do you want to try to [02:54] re partition it again? [02:55] i dont think it si the problem, i formatted that machine alot and tried diff ways and it always works howevere i do it [02:55] anyways i will install ubuntu again i guess, i'm using cmdline interface anyways [02:55] oh [02:55] you could try [02:55] ALT-F2 [02:55] "Chroot /target" [02:55] "apt-get install linux-386" [02:56] i tried that but for some reason, it was not able to get updates to start with. I tried apt-get install updates [02:56] so the only thing that wasn't installed was linux generic ? [02:56] and upgrade was same problem, wasn't able to fetch them [02:57] how about redownload another xubuntu and try it [02:57] yes [02:57] did that as well =) [02:57] and same shit [02:57] same problem, ubuntu desktop same thing as well [02:57] only unbuntu server was good [02:57] wow.. [02:58] well if your going to mess around with servers using linux [02:58] yeah i formatted aloooot in a few hours m8 [02:58] for your future [02:58] try to use LFS [02:58] I am doing a programming so I don't need to know a lot of OS and blah blahs. [02:58] just C++ is more than enough of my life time [02:58] ic, nah i'm a in netowrking mainly [02:58] than LFS [02:59] so i need to know all types of stuff [02:59] you will love it [02:59] I think i will do LFS man [02:59] do you know about it? [02:59] nope [02:59] but i cna learn [02:59] its Linux From Scratch [02:59] it has all the installation guide (which is very very long) [02:59] not like other distros, this one you can pick every single packages you want [03:00] meaning you won't start with a basic ones [03:00] however, you will be able learn a lot, i mean a lot of stuff behind the linux [03:00] I have to learn linux anyways, this next year we are taught hacking in linux anad windows for a whole year and i better know my stuff well =) [03:00] than LFS [03:00] it should take you about a 3~5days [03:01] stay away from ubuntu, mint, fedora, etc.. they are good distros and i think its flawless [03:01] but LFS is the most valuable distro for you at your position [03:01] since you will stick with linux for while [03:01] oh yeah linux linux for whiiiile, my prof likes redhat and freebsd [03:02] i'm not much fan of freebsd [03:02] but i mean don't they use the UNIX? [03:02] yes [03:02] that's what we learned first in college [03:02] then we went to learning linux [03:02] Orrrrr [03:02] but it is same commands almost [03:02] try http://www.archlinux.org/ [03:02] archlinux is also great for you to learn linux [03:03] i will do it the hard way, scratch will be gooood [03:03] it will be good but [03:03] I had a massive head hurting [03:03] for a whilee [03:03] smoked many many cigarettes [03:03] hehe too much learning ehh [03:04] or problems? [03:04] brb phone [03:04] problems [03:04] you are going to literally build every single thingi there is in linux [03:10] back [03:10] well it will be fun to build everything and i know it will be hard and lots of headache =P [04:06] with a fresh xubuntu install do i have to install compiz [04:06] ? [04:09] http://www.google.com/search?q=xubuntu+compiz&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a [04:09] xD! [04:09] well [04:39] = ( [04:39] this channel got smaller [04:40] !bot [04:40] Hi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [04:41] awesome bot is here now [04:44] hi, Catoptromancy [04:45] hi [04:57] asxx - yep :) [05:02] gnome games? [05:02] in defualt install? [05:03] Catoptromancy: yes [05:03] gnome libs? [05:03] yep [05:04] = ( [05:04] there are gtk versions of nearly all those [05:04] Catoptromancy: for gnome-games? [05:04] without minimal libs [05:04] ya [05:05] heh totem replaces gxine [05:05] yep [05:05] well totem isnt as aweful [05:05] gxine on any distro was mostly lockups [05:05] nope. youtube integration is cool... [05:05] running zine directly was alot better heh [05:08] i like vlc [05:08] xfmedia was cool, but still early beta is seems [05:08] looks like development has slowed or stopped [05:08] very simple, yet did everything [05:08] i know. [05:09] dvds, cds, all kinds of music files [05:09] many xfce projects sometimes stalls... [05:09] alsaplayer is awesome though [05:16] How do you use apt-get to get a specific version? I have php 5.1.2 and need 5.1.3 [05:26] funny how many people don't wait for answers... [05:27] how can i make xubuntu start w/ numkey enabled? [05:27] !numlock | R1cochet [05:27] R1cochet: To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock [05:28] ty much [06:05] Quick question, is there any way to easily add programs to the applications menu? xfce menu editor isn't doing it for me [06:06] = ( [06:07] Chetyre: well that is something the xfce dev are working on for the next release afaik [06:07] Chetyre: due on th 28 if it is released on time.. [06:07] Ok, cool. I mean, I know how to add things to the menu but I want to be able to sort them into submenus which I apparently can't :P [06:08] And hey, that's my birthday! What a nice present [06:08] Chetyre: but take a look at http://wiki.xfce.org/tips#how_to_add_or_remove_applications_in_the_system_menu [06:10] Odd-rationale: oh, ok. That should work. Thanks [06:38] Odd-rationale: still around? [06:52] ah great..according to virtualbox the kernel-bug is fxed in their upcoming bug-release (2.0.2) [06:53] kernel bug? [06:53] sounds like something I had [06:54] Catoptromancy: there is a big thread on launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/246067 [06:54] Launchpad bug 246067 in linux "Kernel panic during boot in VirtualBox with kernel 2.6.26.*-generic" [High,Fix committed] [06:54] hmm no kernel panics [06:54] just really really bad performace [06:55] there was a temporary fix which resulted in bad performance afaik.. [06:55] ubuntu could barely keep resolution setting from going off screen [06:55] and kept getting worse [06:55] reactos just froze. [06:55] old vbox worked fine [07:05] does a deb have to be gpl to be in repos? [07:06] this app has a thrown together license, similar...but says nothing about keeping source open [07:07] i think it depends on the repo [07:07] there are different ones [07:07] something easily added will apt-get or add/remove? [07:08] ya I guess, there are nonfree packages in add/remove [11:30] i'm having a fresh install of gutsy and wanna try install libqt4-core and libqt4-gui - but both packages can't be found. [11:30] command is "apt-get install libqt4-core" [11:33] gutsy is pretty old... [11:33] it's possible it didn't have qt4 yet [11:35] how can i check? [11:35] and i'm pretty sure it is [11:36] packages.ubuntu.com [11:36] there is a search [11:36] cause i got the info from a tutorial to install it [11:37] well, it's listed as libraries there [11:38] in which repository? [11:38] maybe you have to add it to your sources list? [11:38] http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/ [11:39] TheSheep: how do i check it is in my list? [11:39] system->software sources [11:40] and what am i looking for there? [11:40] !info libqt4-core [11:40] libqt4-core (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 core non-GUI functionality runtime library. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.4-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 1993 kB, installed size 5712 kB [11:40] tomboy64: the 'component' part [11:40] in this case, for hardy, it's 'main' [11:44] uhm [11:44] yeah [11:44] component main is there [11:44] gutsy main restricted [11:44] TheSheep: ? [11:45] no idea then [11:45] check on the page if it's really in main in gutsy [11:45] the above info was for hardy [11:46] uhm [11:46] on that page it says red "security" [13:25] Can anyone tell me where the option is on xubuntu to change to a window's workspace when activated instead of bring the window to the current workspace? [13:25] I have it configured on my Gentoo machine at home so I know xfce supports it. [13:49] moonbeam__: it's in the text config file [13:49] moonbeam__: http://wiki.sheep.art.pl/Firefox and XFCE4 [13:50] moonbeam__: http://wiki.sheep.art.pl/Firefox%20and%20XFCE4 [13:50] sorry [14:14] Hi. Each time I move my mouse cursor to the edge of the screen it changes work spaces. How can I stop that? [14:15]