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ForgeAusI know way way back it used to be netscape and/or mozaic (moire?) were the main two browsers00:00
ForgeAusand after that Microsoft put their finger in the pie with Internet Explorer...00:00
ign0ramusForgeAus: in school, netscape and altavista were the s**t00:00
ForgeAusaltavista used to be my fav search engine :)00:00
ign0ramusForgeAus: it was the best at the time.  which is laughable now...00:01
ForgeAusit was the one that introduced babelfish afaik00:01
ign0ramusForgeAus: correct!00:01
ForgeAusnow you just get groowe and you have all in one search engines.. of course theres also the search box in your browser assuming it has one (most do these days)00:01
ign0ramusForgeAus: google is awesomely powerful if you know all the 'dorks'00:02
ForgeAusdorks?00:02
ign0ramusForgeAus: essentially parameters that let you search with ninja-like precision00:03
ign0ramusForgeAus: google it!00:03
unclean"this does not seem to be a valid image" does that mean my download was courrpt?00:03
ign0ramusunclean: most likely00:04
ign0ramusunclean: you dl'd an iso and cannot mount it?00:04
ForgeAuspossibly unclean00:04
uncleanapparently00:04
ForgeAuswhat kind of image was it?00:04
unclean.iso00:04
ForgeAusI know it was a CD what but kind of data?00:04
ForgeAusif it was say a PSP .iso I wouldn't expect kiso to understand it00:04
ForgeAus(PSP being the games console Playstation Portable)00:05
uncleanits a movie00:05
ForgeAusok dvd one? or vcd one?00:05
ForgeAusk3b should understand it either way00:05
ign0ramusForgeAus: i think he's trying to mount without burning00:05
ign0ramuslike a virtual drive00:05
ForgeAusyeah he was00:06
ForgeAuserm did00:06
ForgeAusalthough mounting a movie on dvd/cd is kinda strange00:06
uncleanim not sure if its VCD or DVD it says NTSC in the file00:06
ForgeAuswouldn't you want to play it?00:06
ForgeAususing a media player?00:06
ForgeAuslike Kaffeine or VLC for example?00:06
uncleani remember in windows i used a program called Daemon tools00:07
uncleanto mount images00:07
ForgeAusNTSC = never the same colour? hehe kidding00:07
uncleanlike games or movies00:07
uncleanthen play them w/o the cd00:07
ign0ramusunclean: what command did you use?00:07
uncleani just installed Kiso00:07
uncleanthats it00:07
uncleanin KISO it tells me its not a vaild img file00:07
ForgeAusign0ramus he used kiso to do the sudo mounting for him00:08
ign0ramusunclean: i don't know much about kiso.  wanna try from the command line?00:08
ign0ramussudo mount file.iso /media/isoimage/ -t iso9660 -o loop00:08
ForgeAusthats what kiso does (via gui)00:08
ForgeAuswill be same issue00:08
ForgeAusmaybe you should try a media player and to PLAY the CD/DVD instead of mounting it?00:09
ign0ramusForgeAus: that's what it's *supposed* to do... i have no idea what he's trying to do in the gui.  command line is better for trouble shooting00:09
ForgeAusjust refer to the .iso file as the "URI" in your player?00:09
ForgeAuswoudln't that make more sense?00:10
ign0ramusunclean: i recommend installing vlc if you haven't already00:10
ForgeAus(if it really is a movie) ....00:10
ForgeAuseither that or it's likely you were right about it being corrupted download...00:10
uncleanI have00:10
uncleanvlc00:10
ForgeAusok what happens when you try to use vlc to open the .iso file?00:10
uncleanI just want to play a movie w/o buring it00:10
ign0ramusin terminal, cd to the directory where your .iso is.  then "vlc file.iso".  it should play00:11
ForgeAusunclean thats exactly what I'm trying to do for you..00:11
uncleanokay i opend the file in vlc00:11
ign0ramusand if it doesn't it should at least give you some good information as to why it won't00:11
ign0ramusit's playing?00:12
ForgeAusign0ramus too :)00:12
uncleanand... its playing but no image or sound...00:12
uncleanokay it just stopped playing00:12
ForgeAusuh... that doesn't sound good...00:12
ign0ramuspossibly a corrupt .iso....00:12
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ign0ramussame effect in kaffeine (for replication purposes)00:12
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ForgeAusyeah I agree, unless its some kind of codec issue00:12
ForgeAusbut I thought vlc had all the codec's etc...00:12
ign0ramusForgeAus: codec issues? in my vlc? :)00:12
* ForgeAus shrugs00:13
ign0ramusunclean: you have all restricted codecs and libdvdcss installed?00:13
uncleanyes00:13
ForgeAusunclean the most likely explaination is what you said, that you have a corrupted .iso file...00:13
ign0ramusunclean: then it sounds like a corrupt file00:13
tingtest00:13
ForgeAussorry but I don't think we can assist you any further with that lol00:14
ForgeAushey ting00:14
ForgeAuswas I supposed to reply to that test?00:14
ign0ramusunclean: if you have extra blank cd's, you can try to burn it... if it works, then something is wrong00:14
ForgeAusrofl ign0ramus00:14
tinghi forgeaus00:14
tingfirst time here, stll learning...00:15
ForgeAusanyhow my own possibly corrupted iso is pretty much done so I better check exactly how far its got00:15
uncleanwell i did try burning it and nothing picked up the dvd00:15
ign0ramusForgeAus: your nick looks decidely french when typed in all lowercase00:15
ForgeAushehe true00:15
ign0ramusi was like 'who is he talking to?'00:16
ForgeAusthe eau thing is frenchish00:16
ForgeAuslike the -eaux suffix00:16
ForgeAusof course Frenchish should always have a capital F too...00:16
ForgeAusbut I'm not so great with the technicalities of langauge sometimes00:16
ForgeAuswhich is odd coming from a poet :)00:17
ign0ramusyeah, but you have that poetic license to hide behind00:17
SkEmOdont vote obama! hes evil like windows!00:17
ign0ramusSkEmO: *facepalm*00:17
ForgeAusI aren't going to vote for anyone in an American Election since I'm both in and from Australia00:17
SkEmOargh00:18
ForgeAusunfortunately our elections here are Mandatory...00:18
ign0ramusForgeAus: some people have a hard time understanding that there are other people in the world00:18
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ForgeAuswe get fined, perhaps even jailed? for not voting...00:18
ForgeAuswell thats why I have the Aus on the end of my nick to assist with that one :)00:18
ign0ramusForgeAus: you can't help everyone :)00:19
ForgeAusdoesn't stop me from trying ... sometimes00:19
ForgeAushowever true it may be00:19
uncleanokay I go to open the .iso in KAffenine and it keeps trying to d/l the codec then it says "error codec alrdy installed" then keeps trying forever!00:19
ForgeAusrofl sounds like kaffeine to me :)00:19
ForgeAusperhaps it drank too big a dose? rofl00:20
ign0ramusunclean: kaffeine does that to me too.  that's why i use mplayer or vlc.  i've never really liked kaffeine, but it's one of those things that's installed by default, so i know most people still have it00:20
ForgeAusnormally I'd expect VLC to handle corruption more gracefulyl than Kaffeine, but that could just be me00:20
ForgeAusin KDE4 theres Dragon player for video00:21
ForgeAusI'm not even sure if it still has Kaffeine (DragonPlayer is basically Codein growded up a little)00:21
ign0ramusForgeAus: I have that too, but it doesn't seem to have a lot of options (granted, i didn't really look too hard)00:21
ForgeAus(note my bad English there was on purpose)00:22
ForgeAusign0ramus KDE is still relatively new give it time00:22
ign0ramusForgeAus: i have a bunch of duplicate apps from when i was testing kde4... i got rid of it, but many of the apps remained00:22
ForgeAus(in case you didn't understand what the real word should have been instead of growded, try grown :)00:22
ForgeAusI still have a bunch of dupliate KDE4 apps and I still use KDE3 as my default00:23
ForgeAusunfortunately Intrepid will be using KDE4 as its default00:23
ForgeAusperhaps imho a little prematurely, however when the time comes it may not be quite so... we shall see00:23
ign0ramusForgeAus: no kde3 Intrepid release?00:23
ForgeAusafaik there won't be a kde3 intrepid00:24
ign0ramusForgeAus: I'm still not ready to use kde4... i haven't tried the latest few versions, but the early ones were just unbearable00:24
* [pyro] is wondering why his k3b says it can be updated but wont update00:24
ForgeAusnot even a default /.kde (that is kde4) and optional /.kde300:24
B_RavenEhh, as long as amarok 2.0 is ready by that time I'm cool with KDE4 being the default. Hopefully nvidia will have fixed their issues with 2D rendering by then too.00:24
* ForgeAus shrugs pyro, good question00:24
ign0ramuspyro: i just went through that whole deal.  if its saying that some packages were held back, *just leave them*00:25
[pyro]sure00:25
[pyro]i have been :)00:25
ForgeAusNVidia/ATI drivers can be a real headache in X1100:25
ForgeAusI never quite got them working way back in Edgy00:25
ign0ramusForgeAus: I actually think that they're sometimes better than Intel graphics.  It depends on the card, though.00:26
B_RavenInstall works perfectly for me, but the current ones have a nasty reputation for having issues with 2D rendering speed on 8 and 9 series cards.00:26
ForgeAusI kinda feel sorry for unclean, I know how it is to wait for so long to get an .iso when you download a hefty sized file like that only to have it not work due to data corruption :(00:26
ign0ramusForgeAus: there's plenty more porn out there.00:27
ForgeAusign0ramus your presumptuous!00:27
ForgeAusbesides I was talking about an operating system instead lol :)00:27
ign0ramusit's just a gut feeling00:27
ForgeAusat least in that case...00:27
ign0ramushe said the .iso was a 'movie'00:28
ForgeAuswell it could have been some anime classic like Akira... wait thats not porn is it?00:28
ForgeAusor "A Beautiful Mind" for all I know...00:28
ign0ramusif it was, it would be 'hentai'00:28
[pyro]kaira isnt porn no00:29
[pyro]akira*00:29
ign0ramusok, when i've gone this far off-topic, its time for me to go00:29
ign0ramusgood chatting, fellas00:29
ForgeAusI never quite understood the ending of Akira...00:29
ForgeAusI was fine with it until a little after the big explosion happened...00:30
r_benderAnybody know how ubuntu runs compared to Suse?00:32
afeijomy firefox freezes when I try to open the 3rd window00:43
DanuSorry if is a dumb question, but i don't find a way of change the window border!00:43
afeijoff 200:43
Danui download some and i don't know how to do it :(00:44
Danuplease some help00:46
Denisewhat is ur problem00:49
Danui don't know how to change the window border :(00:49
Danuhelp00:49
Denisewindow border00:50
Danui don't like crystal00:50
Denisewhat u like00:50
Danuthe window that kubuntu have (crystal)00:51
Danuhow do i change it for another?00:51
Denisesomeone knows how to use thunderbird00:53
SixzeroThunderbird?  What'do ya wanna know?00:53
Danunobody?00:54
SixzeroYou wanna change the window settings?00:54
Danuyes i don't like crystal00:54
SixzeroClick the K in the corner of your screen, go up above the word actions and click system settings00:55
Danui downloaded some of kde-look but i don't see how to install them00:55
Sixzerowhere did you download them from?00:55
Danukde-look00:55
Sixzerofrom kde-look.com?00:55
Danuyes00:55
Danuwindow decoration00:56
SixzeroAh.  I have yet to install new decorations, so I'm not 100% sure how to do that yet, but I can tell you where to change your window settings to something that's already installed.00:56
SixzeroK, system settings, Appearance, then Window Decorations00:57
SixzeroI use the Keramic myself, looks pretty out there.00:57
SixzeroDenise: what did you need to know about thunderbird?00:57
Danui want another keramik, plastik, i don't like them xD00:58
Denisewhen i chose the server00:58
Denisedo i put my personal furnisher company or hotmail if it is a hotmail account00:58
SixzeroDanu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27610900:59
DeniseI m dummy tonight01:00
SixzeroI'm not sure if Hotmail allows you to setup your email accounts with outside clients.  I know with Yahoo! you have to pay for that special priviledge.  What's the email account of your company and I01:00
Denisemore than usual I guess01:00
SixzeroI'll tell you what to type in.01:00
ForgeAusI'm happy with crystal decorators and icons generally in Kubuntu although I do mod them heavily and the colourschemes...01:01
ForgeAusmy current one I dub "my blue heaven" since its widgets are a pale-blue based on keramilk's colourtheme01:02
SixzeroDenise: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq#webmail01:02
ForgeAusonly that I used colours from that to lighten the window parts as well01:02
SixzeroDenise: Yes. The Webmail extension integrates web site based email accounts into Thunderbird, allowing Thunderbird to download and to send emails using the web site. Some services may require a subscription for this type of access. Current information on the Webmail extension, supported services, and other add-ons for web based email can be found at the WebMail development site.01:02
ForgeAusits a better blubuntu that the gnome theme for ubuntu called blubuntu is thats for certain hehe :)01:03
Denisethanks01:03
SixzeroI changed all my bars from blue to silver.01:03
Danuthenks anyway Sixzero01:03
ForgeAusSix you'll be at home with Oxygen theme from KDE4 then01:03
SixzeroDenise: http://webmail.mozdev.org/  This link is the program you'll need to integrate hotmail into thunderbird.  I haven't tried it myself yet, but I'm gonna check it out tonight.01:04
SixzeroI'm using Crystal SVG icons, Klearlooks widgets, and Keramik window frames.01:05
NCommanderRiddell, I have a new kdelibs fix01:06
SixzeroI tend to keep hopping back and forth between kde 3 and 401:06
ForgeAussounds good to me Sixzero01:06
SixzeroBut the next time I log onto my kde4 session I'll switch it around and see what you were sayin'.01:06
SixzeroBtw, has anyone here ever had an issue with their sound coming out as too high of a pitch?  Like, if you install a new soundcard, has anyone ever noticed their sound becoming a higher octave than normal on kubuntu 3?01:08
ForgeAusthe printscreen button gives me just one window how do I take a full screenshot?01:14
Daisuke_Idoalt+printscreen perhaps?01:19
Daisuke_Idoinstalling kde again01:20
Daisuke_Idoi know this will end in heartache01:20
Daisuke_Idobut i haven't used it yet under hardy, so here's hoping01:20
Daisuke_Ido(3, not 4.  i'm not that much of a masochist!)01:21
ForgeAusI'm atlking about kde301:21
Sixzeroheartache, Daisuke?01:21
Daisuke_IdoSixzero: kde and i have a love/hate relationship01:22
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Daisuke_Idoit loves to make me hate it.01:22
Daisuke_Idowell, i shall return shortly01:22
ForgeAusyou love to hate it or it hates to love you?01:23
SixzeroDaisuke_Ido: Ah, I understand your struggles.  I'm still fighting with it.01:23
Daisuke_Idoalrighty then, i'm back on kde01:25
Daisuke_Idothis is hideously ugly under kde301:26
djamubla..bla..bla everyone01:27
Daisuke_Idowell that's substantially better.  forcing 96dpi seems to work much better for the fonts01:28
ForgeAusKsnapshot did it, is there a pastebin-like site for pix?01:28
Daisuke_Idoimageshack.us01:28
ForgeAusits a png of my desktop, basic one, nothing special... but will give you a clue as to what I meant by my blue heaven :)01:28
nejodeDaisuke_ldo: the printscreen key should open Ksnapshot01:29
Daisuke_Idoshould, but apparently didn't in his case01:29
nejodeyou can configure it two ways at least01:30
ForgeAusok I think I shrunk it a little too far but this should give you the idea: http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blueheavensds3.png01:37
ForgeAus(nothing spectacular just my blue theme01:37
ForgeAusyou can tell by my placement of the "trash" that I'm a former Windows user :)01:38
ForgeAusI really aught to get myself a kewl non-default blue wallpaper01:40
SixzeroAnyone here ever heard of Hulu.com?01:41
Daisuke_IdoSixzero: heard of, yes, used, no.01:41
ForgeAusuh heard of it, I can't remember being there tho01:41
Daisuke_IdoForgeAus: looks pretty standard to me01:41
Daisuke_Idono kicker visible, but that's about the only real difference i can see01:42
SixzeroI just discovered it today on youtube.  If you like Fox sitcoms and such, it might be worth a look at.  For being completely free with no signing up or anything, it might just be the best video site i've ever seen.01:42
ForgeAushehe I autohid my kicker, its blue too01:42
ForgeAusthe non-defaultness is mostly the the widget colours01:42
dr_willisSixzero,  problem ive seen with many of those video sites - is that due to 'deals and other things going on' what videos you can watch today.. may radically change in the next week. :(01:43
dr_willisSixzero,  so enjoy the vids while you can. :)01:43
* NCommander turns on the ScottK light01:43
ForgeAus(keramilk is normally grey or white toobar/menu, etc backgrounds so I made my tabs/controls, etc all blu to mix in with it nicely, so they blend.. other than that and the grey bg for text its pretty much default01:44
ForgeAusI've been to hulu before I remember that site, it wouldn't let me watch anything because I wasn't from their country01:44
r_bendersorry had to step out, but just tried out ubuntu and have one question01:44
dr_willisSixzero,  at least that site tags the 'full movies'  :) the wife liked that feature. she was sick of looking for somtning to watch and only finding video clips01:45
ForgeAuswow you can watch Fringe there!01:46
shadowhywindhay all in order to get my wireless card to work (ndiswrapper), I have to restart dbus first? is this normal?01:47
dr_willisFirst Video at Hulu i try to watch wants me to login......01:48
dr_willis:)01:48
dr_willisit aparently has 'nudity'01:48
Sixzerolol, i haven't tried one of "those" yet01:48
dr_willis'bad girls from mars' a old B Sci-Fi movie. :)01:49
SixzeroI only just watched an episode of family guy with on 45 seconds worth of commercials.  Pretty cool.01:49
dr_willisSixzero,  last i checked veoh and Hulu were some how related also. (or making some deals)   a lot of the hulu shows ive seen with the Veoh Player app. (windows only)01:50
Sixzeroshadowhywind: do you have to do it every time you want to use it?01:51
shadowhywindSixzero: only on reboots01:51
Sixzeroshadowhywind: what is your wireless card?01:52
shadowhywindSixzero: bcm431201:52
dr_willis'the following video is broght to you with limited comercial interuuption by the....'     "Ad Council"  ? The Gov is buying ads on  R movies. :)01:53
Sixzeroshadowhywind: I've got a linksys card in my compaq box running on that same driver, but it only asked about the dbus once, and that was weeks ago, so i can't recall exactly what it said.01:53
shadowhywindah01:53
ofvthe Display settings dialog does not show the "natural" resolution (1600x1050) of my monitor (LG W2242T)01:53
Sixzeroofv: what video card are you running on?01:54
ofvAti sapphire 360001:54
Sixzeroofv: is it a radeon?01:54
ofvyes01:54
Sixzeroofv: have you installed drivers for it yet?01:55
dr_willis'native' res. :)   You are using the DVI output conection for the monitor?01:55
ofvdr_willis: yes01:55
dr_willisofv,  normally on mymachines - one has to have the ati, or nvidia drivers properly installed, and then it will use the proper res01:55
ofvSixzero: it is working "by default". The propietary drivers crashes the machine on startup.01:55
ofvdr_willis: how can I check that I have the drivers properly installed?01:56
Sixzeroofv: I couldn't get the display settings to detect my monitor as anything other than plug and play generic monitor UNTIL I was able to get my radeon drivers properly installed.  Problem being is that ubuntu by itself couldnt recognize my monitor, but with the video card drivers (no monitor driver is available for me) it is now able to correctly identify the monitor and its native resolution.01:57
Sixzeroofv: hold on a second and I'll give you the link to the drivers you need and the other information you'll need with it.  It's kind of a pain, but once you get it going right, it'll be WELL worth it.01:58
ofvSixzero: okay, same question as for dr_willis: how to check that drivers are okay? (I'm a novice)01:58
dr_willisWell if you said you isntalled them befor and the thing crashed.. thats not a good sign.01:58
ofvSixzero: thanks, waiting eagerly :-)01:58
dr_willisthe main issue is with ati/ubuntu/linux drivers :(  and new cards.. often it takes a few weeks/months for the drivers to get updated properly.01:59
dr_willisIve totally given up on ATI cards for the next few years.01:59
Sixzeroofv: once you install the drivers, you'll want to open a terminal window and type flgrxinfo.  If it talks about Mesa drivers, then it didn't install correctly.  If it tells you about ATI drivers, then you're golden.01:59
dr_willis!ati01:59
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:59
ofvubottu: aren't those the drivers available via the Hardware Manager. They crash my computer on startup.02:00
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:00
vilhelmdo I only have to install samba to be able to share folders on the network?02:00
Sixzeroofv: is it an HD 3600?02:01
Sixzeroofv: lol, you tried to chat with the bot.02:01
ofvYes.02:01
ofvhahaha :-) Novice IRC user too :-)02:01
Sixzeroofv: its ok, so am i.02:02
Sixzeroofv: These are the drivers you need.02:02
Sixzeroofv: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8-8-x86.x86_64.run02:02
Sixzeroofv: save it to your desktop and I'll walk you through it.02:02
ofvSixzero: AMD64 arch here.02:03
ofvSixzero: sorry, I see those are for 64 too.02:03
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dr_willisHardware manager app  may not get the 'latest' drivers. (in fact odds are it wont get the latest)02:09
dr_willisTheres also the envyng tool that 'might' grab newer drivers and install them for you.02:09
dr_willisofv,  failing all this. The next ubuntu release is due out next month. It shold have updated drivers on it.02:09
ofvThanks, dr_willis, I'll keep that in mind.02:09
ofvSixzero: the file is here.02:10
dr_willisUbntu uses this 'ever 6 mo' the  next release comes out. schedule. So often its just easier to wait a bit. (or test out the  beta/rc/pre-release versions))02:10
Sixzeroofv: Ok, for the sake of simplicity, I want you to right-click the file you just downloaded, and rename it ati.run02:10
ofvdone02:11
Sixzeroofv: i opened a private window so we don't get yelled at for flooding the support channel.02:11
bob_u shouldn't get yelled for asking questions, that way we all learn, IMO02:15
gouldehowdie folks02:19
Sixzerohowdy goulde02:19
gouldewhat's happening02:20
Sixzerotryin to get these vid drivers installed, but they seem to want to fight us02:34
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raul__hola02:35
CrellHi all.  I'm having trouble getting Bluetooth to work properly on my Thinkpad T61 with Hardy.  There seems to be no way to associate the laptop with my BT mouse.  I also have checked in the System Settings | System Services page, and bluetooth is listed as "not running" despite me clicking "Start".  Any tips on how to get it talking properly?02:36
DanuHi somebody recommend me a good theme for kde?02:38
Danuplease02:38
SixzeroDid you have any luck getting those installed earlier Danu?02:38
Danukinda, but i need a good theme02:39
Danuwhat theme you guys use?02:39
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CrellDanu: The default.  It's pretty enough for me. :-)02:41
Danuum.. that's what i use all the time , it's cool but..02:41
Danuok bye thenks, i think i'm gonna stay with the default, it's nice thenks Crell02:44
CrellOK then...02:44
CrellNow, about my bluetooth... :-)02:44
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Danuhelp, how do i do to quit the background black in OO.org?03:13
Danuit's that i installed a theme and put the black03:13
Danuhelp03:14
semistud2354is anyone else getting this K3B package that wont update??03:14
Deniselol03:15
DeniseDanu03:15
semistud2354it says its "left back"03:15
Danuok ups sorry03:15
Denisehelp03:15
Danui'm 13 so take it easy03:16
Denisemy bash console is saying : error go to bed03:16
Denisewhat does it mean03:16
Danuhelp03:16
Denisehey I m 1203:16
semistud2354is anyone else getting this K3B package that wont update??03:16
Deniserkhunter says I have hidden files03:17
Denisewhat is it?03:17
Deniseis .initramfs could be the malicious file that always makes my firestarter crash?03:19
SixzeroDenise: are you seriously only 12?03:19
Deniseno03:20
Denisesomeone knows what that file is for pulse-shm-2793567619 ?03:20
SixzeroThat would've been rather impressive, for a 12 year old to know their way around this OS03:20
semistud2354is anyone else getting this K3B package that wont update??03:20
Sixzerolemme check stud03:21
semistud2354thanx03:21
Deniserkhunter says it is a suspicious file03:22
SixzeroI got this message....W: GPG error: http://moblock-deb.sourceforge.net hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CB53C4079072870B03:22
Sixzerosemistud2354: are you getting that message in synaptic or adept?03:23
semistud2354adept03:24
semistud2354kubuntu hardy heron03:24
semistud2354lol...kubuntu hardy heroin03:25
semistud2354its that good...lol03:25
Sixzerolol03:25
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SixzeroI got a lot of failed downloads in synaptic, but no problems in adept, and no updates available....03:26
CrellHi all.  I'm having trouble getting Bluetooth to work properly on my Thinkpad T61 with Hardy.  There seems to be no way to associate the laptop with my BT mouse.  I also have checked in the System Settings | System Services page, and bluetooth is listed as "not running" despite me clicking "Start".  Any tips on how to get it talking properly?03:26
Sixzerowhat's the command for updates with apt-get?03:26
CrellOr more simply, how do I tell Kubuntu to go into discoverable mode, and/or pair with another device?03:27
Danuwhat's the name of the default theme!!!!!!!??????03:27
Denisehey03:28
Denisebut installing opensource package03:28
Deniseis open to the all world03:28
Deniseit is not secure03:28
semistud2354srry bout that03:28
semistud2354batt died03:28
semistud2354had to plugin03:28
Danu<Danu> what's the name of the default theme!!!!!!!??????03:29
Denisewhat theme03:29
Denisedebian simply03:30
Denisewould be more secure03:30
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DeniseSUSE?03:32
Deniseand all these chatrooms for help03:33
Denisecan be full of hackers03:33
DeniseOMG03:33
freeRagOPEN SOURCE THE ROOT KIT03:35
Deniseja ja03:35
freeRagFREE THE WORLD03:35
DeniseFREE THE PIRATES03:36
freeRagFREE DENISE ASS03:36
Deniselol03:37
DeniseI m freaking03:37
Deniseu need high security level on linux too03:37
Deniseroot kits are here!!!!!!03:38
Deniseok03:38
Denisegoing to sleep03:38
Denisebyebye03:38
Alex135whats a good set of software to make a 'torrent server' ?03:38
freeRagWINDOWS 703:39
Denisehey rkhunter is an open source03:39
Denisedownload from the web03:39
Denisewho says it is fonctional?03:39
Deniseall those samaritans?03:40
mani213 how do i fix my screen03:40
mani213like half of my screen is missing from my monitor03:41
mani213how do i fix it03:41
freeRagGET A NEW MPNITOR03:41
mani213its not my monitor03:41
mani213how do i reset the screen config?03:41
freeRagSTART REMOTE DESKTOP03:42
mani213wachu mean03:43
mani213is there any command in sudo i can type03:43
mani213to restarts my setup03:43
Sixzeroreboot in safe mode?03:43
freeRagSUDO ./03:43
Deniseim gonna all uninstall03:44
Deniseand reinstall03:44
Denisewithout all the downloaded crap03:44
freeRagAlex135: you'll need a tracker03:44
mani213half of the windows is missin from my monitor03:46
mani213and its not my monitor and i i tried settings nothign works03:46
mani213how do i fix it?03:46
freeRagTRY XCONFIGURATOR03:47
mani213whats that03:48
dartvaderola pessoal03:49
mani213lol03:50
mani213how do i fix it03:50
mani213its aserious question03:50
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mani213how do i restarts my resolution03:58
mani213for my monitor half of the screen is cut off03:59
Sixzeromani213: did you try to reboot in safe mode?03:59
mani213ye03:59
Sixzeromani213: and it still had the same problem?03:59
mani213ye man03:59
geekmani213: what kinda system?03:59
mani213i ned to fix this so i can work on my stuff03:59
mani213kubuntu03:59
Sixzerowhat video card are you running, and which version of ubuntu?03:59
mani213ati 920004:00
geeki mean the hardware as well04:00
Sixzerokubuntu 3 or 4?04:00
mani213amd 64 athlon04:00
mani213kubuntu 304:00
mani213i think04:00
Sixzerodid you just install the drivers for the radeon?04:00
mani213i had this problem last time and some one told me a command to type in konsole04:00
mani213and it was fixed04:00
Sixzerois the picture blown up so big that you can't see half the screen, or do you see the whole screen, yet half the screen is blank?04:02
mani213ye things seem to be bigger in size04:03
mani213then they should be yet my wallpaper is normal size04:03
mani213nothing blank04:03
Sixzerothe wallpaper tends to readjust to fit the resolution.04:03
mani213and i did the setting for my monitor and its fine but some how i need to i guess restart the config04:03
mani213or setup04:03
Sixzerowhat part of your screen can you see?  bottom left, bottom right, top left?04:04
mani213top left04:04
mani213same thing with the log in screen04:04
mani213it was streached04:04
mani213when i started it04:04
Sixzerocan you open a terminal window?04:05
Sixzeroand type systemsettings into it?04:05
mani213whats terminal window04:05
mani213konsel04:05
[pyro]konsole04:05
Sixzeroyeah04:05
[pyro]right click desktop and pick "run command" then type in "konsole"04:06
[pyro]or.. just type "systemsettings" :D04:06
[pyro]short way to it..04:06
mani213so type sudo systemsettings?04:06
Sixzeroyeah, try that04:06
Sixzerono, just systemsettings04:06
Sixzeroright click, pick run command and type systemsettings04:06
mani213ok i got a screeen04:06
Sixzerocan you see the display settings?04:07
mani213ye04:07
mani213now04:07
Sixzeroclick it and see if you can change your resolution04:07
Sixzerotell us what the highest res it tells you is04:08
Sixzero!botsnack04:08
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!04:08
mani213its 1280x768 and refreash is 60 hz04:09
Sixzerois that what it's supposed to be?04:09
mani213ye04:09
mani213thats what i have for windows04:09
mani213and windows is fine on my computer04:10
Sixzerowere you able to change it?04:10
mani213ye i cant change it04:10
mani213but no difference04:10
Sixzerohuh?04:10
mani213i tried changing it04:11
mani213its same thing04:11
mani213images are streched04:11
mani213man04:11
Sixzeromani213: change the resolution to as high as the slider bar will let you...if you cant see the apply button, then after you change the resolution, click the back button and tell us what happens04:11
SixzeroIt should ask if you want to save the changes, if it does, go ahead and save it04:12
SixzeroWhat model is your monitor, btw?04:12
mani2131280x80004:13
Sixzerowhat about 1280x800?04:14
mani213screen size the highest it goes is 1280x80004:15
SixzeroWere you able to change it to 1280x800?04:15
mani213ye man04:15
mani213but its still streched04:16
Sixzerowhat kind of monitor do you have?04:16
[pyro]mani213: are you talking about your desktop background image?04:16
mani213samsung 172n04:16
mani213not background04:16
mani213my windows04:16
[pyro]so the icons & etc ?04:16
mani213every thing but the desktop04:16
mani213ye man04:16
[pyro]ok, on your monitor, do you ahve a button that you can push that will "autoconfigure" so to speak?04:17
mani213ye i already did it04:17
mani213doesnt work man04:17
[pyro]can you take a screenshot of your desktop for us?04:17
[pyro]with ksnapshot04:17
mani213and how04:18
mani213i have the image saved on my desktop04:19
mani213how do i send it to you?04:19
SixzeroHe's telling us that someone gave him a command to type into konsole that was able to correct his problem.04:19
[pyro]stick it on a website04:19
SixzeroI just cant think of what it would've been04:19
[pyro]flikr or something04:19
mani213which website?04:19
[pyro]oh right04:19
mani213how do i send the while to you04:20
Sixzerodo you have a website where you put up pictures often?04:20
mani213i need a website04:20
Sixzerophotobucket.com04:21
Sixzeroflikr.com04:21
Sixzeroboth of those would work04:21
Sixzerobut you gotta sign up for them04:21
[pyro]http://imageshack.us/04:21
Sixzerothere you go, do imageshack.us04:22
earthsoundcan someone point me to a set of instructions showing how to go about replacing kde3 w/ kde4 in kubuntu 8.4?04:22
[pyro]mani213: if someone told you to type in a command in the console, and that fixed your problem previously, check your ~/.bash_history file to see if you can find the command you used.04:22
earthsound*8.0404:23
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kreggzearthsound: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.104:24
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[pyro]mani213: your desktop looks fine04:24
mani213http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot4dy7.jpg04:25
[pyro]mani213: its your monitor thats not displaying the res properly04:25
mani213man i tried04:25
mani213its linux04:25
earthsoundthanks, mani213, I did see that. it gives instructions on getting kd4 installed, but just says you can install it alongside kde3. i'm looking for instructions on how to cleanly remove as much as kde3 as possible w/o having to manually go through adept and find all of the kde3 packages. does such a set of instructions exist?04:26
earthsoundsorry, thanks kreggz04:26
sammyЫыыы04:27
kreggzearthsound: I think the only way to do it is to install the latest version of Kubuntu which is Intrepid i think04:27
[pyro]mani213: if you set your resolution down 1 notch in the config box, does that look normal then?04:27
kreggzearthsound: it still will have some kde3 libs04:27
[pyro]mani213: you may need to restart your x server after changing the res settings04:27
[pyro]its going to be a while before i remove kde3 :)04:27
sammyрусские есть?=)04:27
mani213ye04:28
mani213how so04:28
mani213do i restart the x server04:28
mani213i think thats what i did last time04:28
earthsoundi guess i'll just add kde4 alongside kde3 and log into it separately, then04:28
[pyro]well, you can log out of your session, when you get the login screen up, press CTRL ALT and BACKSPACE and that will restart x server, then login again04:28
kreggzyou could also try to go into gnome04:28
kreggzand remove kubuntu04:28
mani213theres no command that would reset my monitor settings04:29
mani213and set them up again?04:29
freeRagTRY XCONFIGURATOR04:29
mani213sudo: XCONFIGURATOR: command not found04:30
mani213mani213@mani213-desktop:~$04:30
freeRagman x04:30
mani213i did04:30
mani213sudo configurator?04:31
microchip420heys guys, how do i add an app to the panel when it doesnt appear in the menu? epiphany web browser to be specific...04:31
earthsoundkreggz: i think i found an answer: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3096033.msg138664#msg13866404:31
[pyro]mani213: try kwin --replace04:31
earthsoundapparently, there is a kubuntu KDE 4 Remix04:32
[pyro]mani213: or: /etc/init.d/x11-common restart04:32
mani213naw it just took and compiz and turned it off04:32
earthsoundbut, you're right, it's not until 8.10 (intrepid ibex) that it'll be a (mostly) pure KDE 404:32
mani213chown: changing ownership of `/tmp/.X11-unix': Operation not permitted04:32
mani213mani213@mani213-desktop:~$04:32
kreggzyeah, ive been looking into the a fair bit04:32
[pyro]mani213: sudo /etc/init.d/x11-common restart04:33
kreggzi don't mind have the old kde, just in case I want to test something04:33
freeRagdamn my torrent is slow04:33
* [pyro] looks for a beer04:35
kreggzi feel like beer now04:38
mani213my linux just frozz04:38
mani213and it wasnt letting me do anything so i had to restart but my screen is still messed up04:38
mani213what was the last command u told me04:38
mefisto__can someone tell me how udev renames network devices? on boot I see: "udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth2" but I don't want it renamed04:40
sergedoes anyone here know anything about apparmor profiles?04:40
mani213what do i do?04:44
[pyro]mani213: sudo /etc/init.d/x11-common restart04:44
kreggzmefisto__: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/udev.htm04:45
mani213nothing happens man04:45
mani213it doesnt even ask for my password04:46
mefisto__mani213: if you leave out the "restart" on the end, do you get a usage message?04:53
mani213no04:54
mani213nothing04:54
mefisto__mani213: are you typing it in correctly?04:55
mani213sudo /etc/init.d/x11-common restart\04:55
mani213sudo /etc/init.d/x11-common restart04:55
mani213is what i typed04:56
mani213in konsole04:56
mefisto__ls /etc/init.d/x11-common04:56
mani213what?04:57
freeRagin english pls04:57
mani213what do you mean?04:58
mefisto__put this in konsole to see if x11-common is where it should be: ls /etc/init.d/x11-common04:58
mani213ls /etc/init.d/x11-common04:59
mani213mani213@mani213-desktop:~$ ls /etc/init.d/x11-common04:59
mani213/etc/init.d/x11-common04:59
mefisto__mani213: what are you trying to do exactly?05:00
mani213im trying to fix my screen05:00
mani213half of its missing yet the back grounds perfect05:00
mani213everyt hings streched05:00
mani213and no its not my monitor and ic hecked the settings on linux05:01
mefisto__have you made some changes and need to restart X?05:01
mani213i restarted 50 times05:01
mani213its been liek this since 3 days now05:01
mefisto__what happened 3 days ago?05:01
mani213like the screen became sctreched05:01
mani213iconcs words windows05:01
mani213yet background is perfect05:02
_2"reboot will fix anything"05:02
mani213and how do i do that?05:02
kreggzyou could try reconfiguring xserver: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:03
kreggzmaybe backup your xorg.conf05:04
mani213im a noob05:04
_2!nv05:04
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:04
mani213so i dont know how this works05:04
kreggztry going through this guide then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:04
_2kreggz dpkg-reconfigure makes a backup05:04
mani213so what should i do05:05
mani213mani213@mani213-desktop:~$ ls /etc/init.d/x11-common05:05
mani213/etc/init.d/x11-common05:05
[pyro]mani213: read that howto05:06
kreggz_2: ok cool05:06
mani213its madd wierd05:08
mani213what ever i type it says not found05:08
kreggzmani213: everything ok? if you find that hard and you have a nvidia/ati card you can download envy-ng05:08
mani213mani213@mani213-desktop:~$ sudo  aticonfig05:08
mani213sudo: aticonfig: command not found05:08
kreggzdo you have an ati card?05:09
mani213ye05:09
mani213ati05:09
kreggzgo to the terminal and type sudo apt-get install envy-ng05:09
* mr---t- waves to _205:09
mani213@mani213-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install envy-ng05:10
mani213Reading package lists... Done05:10
mani213Building dependency tree05:10
mani213Reading state information... Done05:10
mani213E: Couldn't find package envy-ng05:10
kreggzthats cause i gave you the wrong package name05:10
kreggzsudo apt-get install envyng-core envyng-gtk05:10
mefisto__mani213: have you installed the restricted driver? look in Kmenu > system > hardware drivers05:10
_2shalom mr---t-     i have a full pipe and am lagging about 4 minutes right now...05:10
Sixzerolol, he said pipe05:11
freeRagwhats a restricted driver ?05:11
kreggza driver which is restricted05:11
mefisto__freeRag: not free, open source05:11
SixzeroIt's a driver that can't be released with the ubuntu package because it's closed source05:11
freeRagha just that05:11
mani213it shows05:12
Sixzerootherwise known as proprietary05:12
mani213two components05:12
mani213thats are enabled05:12
kreggzyep download them both05:12
freeRagdamn linux frolks always renaming and rebrading stuff05:12
tony_how do i find the md5 of a dvd?05:13
mefisto__mani213: if one of them is your video card, then you have the driver installed05:13
mani213i cant download them it just shows whats being used05:13
mani213naw05:13
mani213no video driver05:13
mani213i dont think so05:13
kreggzdo you know how to open synaptic mani21305:13
mani213nope05:13
mefisto__mani213: so what are the 2 things enabled?05:13
mani213im new to this05:13
kreggzin the terminal type sudo synaptic05:13
mani213i see atheros hardware and a wireless lan card05:13
Sixzerotony_: there are small utilities on the internet that can show you.  it's easiest to search it in google or download one from a torrent05:13
Sixzerotony_: you're looking for the checksum, right?05:14
_2not sudo with gui apps kreggz05:14
tony_i googled. only one came up and it didn't work05:14
tony_Sixzero: yes05:14
freeRagcan i install kubuntu on windows add remove programs ?05:14
kreggzworks for me ;)05:14
_2!kdesudo | everyone!05:14
ubottueveryone!: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)05:14
mefisto__!sudo05:14
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)05:14
mani213so ye what do i do now?05:15
kreggzouch05:15
kreggztype kdesu synaptic05:15
_2!worksforme | kreggz05:15
ubottukreggz: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/05:15
kreggz;(05:15
freeRagcan i install kubuntu on windows add remove programs ?05:15
mefisto__freeRag: yes05:16
mani213so do i need to install a video driver now?05:16
freeRagto usb ?05:16
_2kreggz and don't get discurraged.   remember i'm lagging so my posts will appear out of sequense.05:17
Sixzerotony_: check private message05:17
kreggz_2 thats ok, I'm learning things all the time05:17
kreggzmani213: do you have synaptic open now?05:17
mani213whats synaptic?05:18
kreggzmain213: type kdesu synaptic05:18
_2i.e.  to see what i'm responding to read maybe the top line of your screen and then my post    ;/05:18
kreggzmani213: it is a graphic utility to install programs05:19
mani213mani213@mani213-desktop:~$ kdesu synaptic05:19
mani213sudo: synaptic: command not found05:19
_2i think the transfer just finished.... maybe i'm not lagging now...05:19
mani213its not found on my computer05:19
mani213:S05:19
mani213so i need to download it ?05:19
kreggzmani213: are you having a joke with me??05:19
freeRagso kubuntu can redistribute the proprietary driver ?05:19
mani213what do you mean?05:19
_2mani213 you can but don't need to    kdesudo adept05:19
kreggzi though synaptic came standard, maybe it doesn't...05:20
freeRagkreggz: hes been here 4 ever trying the helpers patience05:20
_2freeRag under special rules yes.05:20
mani213when i type in kdesu synaptic it says not found05:20
kreggzok, type sudo apt-get install synaptic05:20
freeRagkdesu apt-get nvidia05:20
sd32everytime i change my system colors KWD crashes causing a 11 (SIGSEGV) error,  how do i fix this?05:20
freeRagsudo apt-get nvidia05:21
_2freeRag    ^ install05:21
_2key word missing.05:21
Darkhoundgood evening guys05:21
freeRagsd32: report the bug05:21
_2Darkhound05:21
tony_i'm on kde 4.1. how do i tell where my dvd is at? it just says dvd in Dolphin. like /dev/dvdrom, etc?05:21
freeRagtony_: is another one05:22
DarkhoundfreeRAg why did you insult me05:22
freeRagi dont like you05:22
kreggztony_: I think it might be in /media05:22
sd32how do i  get my windows decorations back?05:22
mani213ok05:22
mani213its done installing05:22
Darkhoundand what have i done to you lol?05:22
_2sd32   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=de3eb87a05:22
kreggzmani213: did you install synaptic or nvidia?05:22
freeRagyou barked05:22
_2sorry tony_   ^05:23
sd32_2: thanks05:23
mani213synaptic05:23
_2sd32 miscued  sorry.05:23
_2tony_  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=de3eb87a05:23
tony_kreggz: it keeps telling me it's a directory, not a dvd05:23
sd32:-005:23
kreggzmani213: ok type kdesu synaptic05:23
tony__2, thanks05:23
kreggztony_: if you want to use the graphical interface there is a widget you can add05:23
_2tony_   there is a kde4 specific channel   #kubuntu-kde405:24
valentinexHello I am a C language student in windows I was using turbo C++ compiler for my studies but now I am in kubuntu I don't know which will be nice for me?05:24
mani213yo this is the same as adept manager05:24
_2!info gcc | valentinex05:24
ubottuvalentinex: gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.62ubuntu6)): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.3-1ubuntu6 (hardy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB05:24
mani213is that what you were asking for05:24
kreggzmani213: do a search for envy-ng05:25
tony_kreggz: what widget is that?05:25
_2valentinex install the package   build-essential   and it will pull in most every thing you need05:25
_2valentinex you might want to look at  kdevelop too05:25
kreggztony_: new device notifier05:26
_2!info kdevelop > valentinex05:26
ubottuvalentinex, please see my private message05:26
valentinex_2: thanks trying :D05:26
kreggztony_: add it from the task bar not the desktop05:27
twylightand at long last, I get my laptop up and running again05:27
* twylight blows the dust off the keyboard05:27
kreggzyou can but it isn't as convenient05:27
mani213i see envy-core05:28
mani213and envy-qt05:28
kreggzget the gtk one05:28
mani213can i get em all05:28
mani213core gtk and qt?05:28
kreggzjust get gtk05:28
valentinex_2: sorry I am new to kubuntu where to install that? build-essential05:28
twylightO.o Su returned with an error05:29
twylighthow do I fix that05:29
bobitotwylight: use sudo05:29
twylightnot in the console05:30
twylightthen again, I'm using 6.06.105:30
_2!dpkg | valentinex05:30
ubottuvalentinex: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.05:30
_2!adept | valentinex05:30
ubottuvalentinex: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto05:30
mani213okay its downloading 5% done05:30
bobitotwylight: Ijust joinedthe chat,what are ya trying to do?05:30
_2there.  see the link ^05:30
twylightwhenever I try to run an application using kdesu it fails, and says05:31
twylightSu crashed with an error05:31
_2!kdesudo | twylight05:32
ubottutwylight: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)05:32
valentinex_2: thanks :o05:32
_2twylight also if you need to test sudo's functionality.  in a konsole run    sudo echo boo      if it boo's at you it's working05:32
twylightok.....05:32
twylightthis is messed up05:32
twylighthalf the time it works05:33
twylightand the other half it makes my pointer go all screwy05:33
_2that sounds somewhat like a vidio driver glitch05:33
kreggzmani213: When you get envy, find it in the K menu. Once in the program download the ATI drivers05:33
_2!envy05:34
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk05:34
bobitotwylight: is it the bug listed on the bottom of the page ubottu gave?05:34
twylightnope05:34
mani213ok05:34
kreggzmani213: this may help you with your problem... no guarantees05:34
twylightnever mind it, I've got it fixed05:34
mani213okay man05:34
mani213thanks for the help05:35
mani213i wasted a good value of your time05:35
bobitoubottu: thanks for the link chap, good to know05:35
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:35
kreggzmani213: doesn't matter I'm not doing anything important ;)05:35
_2!welcome | bobito05:35
ubottubobito: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:35
kreggz_2: are you a bot?05:36
_2yes05:36
kreggzcool05:36
mani213do you guys get paid for helping ppl like me?05:36
_2but only on tuesdays05:36
kreggzmani213: yeah it's pretty good money 100k a year05:36
_2mani213 not a cent05:36
_2!help05:36
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:36
mani213lol05:36
kreggzrobots don't get paid05:36
_2!patience05:36
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:36
mani213oh ok ok05:36
_2there it is.05:37
twylight!irrelevance05:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about irrelevance05:37
twylight!anything05:37
ubottuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.05:37
twylightthat's as much as I'm going to abuse ubotu05:37
_2!botsnack05:37
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!05:37
mani213i like linux i just dont know it that well05:37
kreggz!spam05:37
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mani213but im happy to use it05:37
mani213i had enough with windows05:38
twylight!windows05:38
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents05:38
kreggzmani213: i know how you feel05:38
_2mani213 that's what brought most of us here05:38
twylightwhat happened to the message of dealing with insanity?05:38
twylightor was I always too intoxicated to deal with that?05:38
mani213what do you think of apple osx?05:39
ForgeAushehe05:39
Sixzero!botabuse05:39
ubottuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubottu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.05:39
ForgeAusmy message of dealing with insanity = "sometime insanity is the sanest choice"05:39
ForgeAusthen again I also tend to say "confusion is my natural state"05:39
ForgeAusmani213 :) nice attitude05:40
_2ForgeAus when someone says to me "oh, you are from the states, which one?"   i normally answer "confusion"05:40
mani213lol05:40
mefisto__mani213: hit alt-F2 and type in: krandrtray05:40
ForgeAusI don't know much about apple OSX either, but I am an equal opportunity OS enthusiast :)05:40
twylightin adept, how do I get the list from the universe and multiverse?05:41
mani213ye this sets your screen size05:41
gx009its spelled confucious05:41
mefisto__mani213: that will give you an icon that lets you change screen resolution05:41
_2!repos > twylight05:41
ubottutwylight, please see my private message05:41
mani213ye same thing thats in settings05:41
mani213i tried t already didnt really work for me05:41
ForgeAusahh its part of kde3.5.10 kewl :) I had it and I didn't even know!05:42
ForgeAus(krandrtray I mean)05:42
ForgeAusI always loved quickres :)05:42
mefisto__ForgeAus: it comes with the kcontrol package05:42
gx009am only here 'cause i put 3.5.9 on my desktop05:42
_2gx009 the oriental philosopher ?05:42
gx009its a phylosophical .rpm05:43
mani213man if i cant fiz this ima fix it tom i gata go sleep wake up class tom:S05:43
* ForgeAus thinks an .rpm is alien :)05:43
twylight2, I am using 6.0605:43
twylightOLD version on a craptop05:43
mani213usually ppl ask me what osx im runnin when they see linux on my laptop05:44
_2twylight dapper here too05:44
mefisto__mani213: has anyone asked to paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?05:44
ForgeAusmakes sense mani :)05:44
ForgeAusso what osx are you running rofl :)05:44
mani213no05:44
twylightI need to get some packages to turn this thing into what I need it to do05:44
mani213i dont think so05:44
_2twylight if the page doesn't still contain the link for dappet i'll see if ican find you something05:44
_2dapper05:45
mani213im a noob :(05:45
SixzeroI'm triplebooting 10.4.5 Tiger, Kubuntu 8.04 LTS, and XP Home... =)05:45
twylightI remember all I had to do was type in something in konsole but apparently not05:45
twylightsomething like sudo apt-get update05:45
mefisto__mani213: can you copy the contents of that file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and then tell us the url05:45
ForgeAustwylight sudo apt-get update will just refresh your list of packages05:46
mani213mani213@mani213-desktop:~$ /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:46
mani213bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied05:46
mani213mani213@mani213-desktop:~$05:46
ForgeAusto install one you use sudo apt-get install <packagenamehere>05:46
_2twylight here's a list of dapper sources.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7085814b05:46
ForgeAus(or adept if you wish to do it graphically)05:46
gx009... && apt-get upgrade05:46
twylightforge, I know how to do this, the problem is getting the list of packages to start with05:47
ForgeAusgx009 or dist-upgrade :)05:47
twylightthis install is incredibly broken and I'm trying to get it up to speed05:47
mefisto__mani213: to open the file: kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:47
_2twylight oops "restricted" is not on any of those.  you can add it to each execpt the backports05:47
mani213i just installed envy05:48
ForgeAustwylight I'd suggest if you have something like dapper that you forget updating "THIS" install and just download a hardy .iso and start from there05:48
gx009!envy05:48
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk05:48
twylightthis laptop is from 199905:48
ForgeAusbecasue dapper -> edgy -> feisty -> gutsy -> hardy is a LONG path05:48
_2twylight kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:48
twylightit's an old P3 IBM thinkpad05:48
kreggzmani213, open it from the k menu05:48
mani213it ssays05:49
mani213envy doesnt support my card05:49
mani213and foes recognise it05:49
mani213:S05:49
mani213doesnt*05:49
twylighthardy won't run on this, I tried05:50
twylightdapper is the only secure version that runs05:50
geektwylight: what model?05:50
twylightI've no idea05:50
ForgeAuswhat card DO you have mani213?05:50
geekand what kinda issue?05:50
mani213ati 920005:50
geeker.. it should say on it ;p05:50
Ubuntu392944AHHH !! :|05:50
kreggzmain213: so you tied to install the ATI driver?05:50
ForgeAus!ati05:50
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:50
mani213ye05:50
twylightI'm not flipping this thing over05:50
_2twylight each repo has a common look and feel about it.     "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main universe multiverse restricted"   <<<   the type.  the url   the codename (dapper)  the section/s                   all ubuntu sources.list files have that look and feel.   and anything starting with # is ignored.05:50
Ubuntu392944Why does Kubuntu have to be so AWESOME!! :(05:50
mefisto__mani213: I had that card until a few days ago. wait and I'll find a link for you05:51
geektwylight: should be on the front. on the bar with the indicator lights05:51
twylightiSeries05:51
mani213ok05:51
twylightis what I can see05:51
geektwylight: thats a start..05:51
ForgeAusUbuntu I just hope it will remain so awesome when KDE4 becomes default05:51
geekwhat kinda issues?05:51
_2twylight you might want to note that for future refferance ^05:51
twylightI'm juggling a few different things here...05:52
ForgeAus(which is about to happen with Intrepid05:52
Sixzeromani213: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run05:52
mani213what do i open it with05:52
geektwylight: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Template:I_Series would be a start05:52
mani213when i click the link its asking what i wana use to open it05:53
twylightI figured out the problem 205:53
mani213what should i click05:53
mani213?05:53
Sixzerosave it to desktop05:53
twylightmy installer fuxxored the repos, commenting out every single one05:54
mani213doesnt let me save05:54
mani213i can only open it05:54
_2twylight good half the job of fixing is finding the error05:54
mani213with a program but its asking which program05:54
mefisto__mani213: can we see your xorg.conf? type this: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf  then paste that at http://paste.ubuntu.com/05:54
twylightI uncommented them05:54
twylightlet's see if I fixed it05:54
_2twylight have to close any package manager and reopen05:55
twylightrestart adept05:55
_2yep05:55
Sixzeromani213: right-click the link, copy to clipboard, and paste it into your web browser05:55
twylightaaand05:55
_2update05:55
mani213http://paste.ubuntu.com/45631/05:55
_2update package list twylight    what ever it's called in adept05:56
* _2 only uses apt05:56
Colonel_PanicI'm having a little trouble getting java netbeans to work05:56
twylightmy kubuntu bar rearranged itself, and a bunch of windows rearranged themselves05:56
_2!netbeans05:57
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about netbeans05:57
_2!java > Colonel_Panic05:57
ubottuColonel_Panic, please see my private message05:57
twylightthat should repair itself when I restart05:57
twylightkdesu doesn't like my laptop, methinks05:58
Colonel_Panicoh wait... now it's working!05:58
_2twylight don't forget that any thing you do in kde you have to "apply changes"  as a general rule.05:58
Colonel_Panickool beans05:58
twylightI know05:58
_2no net beans05:58
_2:)05:59
twylightI think kubuntu dislikes my little nubmouse device05:59
freeRagnet beans ?05:59
kreggzmani213: looks like your video card hasn't been detected05:59
mani213ye05:59
mani213so what should i do05:59
kreggz!panic | mani21305:59
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about panic05:59
_2twylight could be the wrong protocal   you might want to check the xorg.conf05:59
kreggz(05:59
mani213go to ati main site05:59
Sixzeromani213: did you paste that link into your web browser06:00
mani213and install the driver?06:00
Sixzeromani213: that was the link to the driver06:00
twylightwe have sources06:00
twylightI repaired the issue06:00
mani213yeye06:00
mani213its downloading06:00
mani213to my desktop06:00
twylightnext issue, the mouse06:00
kreggzmani213: is your computer new?06:01
_2!helpersnack | twylight sorry there isn't a fixer snack06:01
ubottutwylight sorry there isn't a fixer snack: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!06:01
Sixzerowhen it gets done, tell us and I'll walk you through it.  I did it earlier for another dude and it worked like a charm.06:01
mani213naw 5 years old06:01
twylightthanks06:01
twylightI love linux for this reason06:01
twylightchallenges, problems to solve06:01
mani213kk06:01
kreggzalright im heading off, sounds like Sixzero has a good plan06:01
freeRaglinux kicks ass06:02
valentinex_2: what? kubuntu don't support netbeans?06:02
_2twylight and the freedom to change things without breach of contract.06:02
kreggzhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans06:02
twylightokay, my available packages have jumped from 914 to 1852506:02
twylightI don't care about contracts06:02
twylightbut I hate paying for things :P06:02
mefisto__mani213: do you have tvout on your card?06:03
_2valentinex ? Colonel_Panic said he got netbeans working a minute ago and said "cool beans" to which i replied "no, net beans"06:03
mani213naw naw06:03
twylightas soon as I get back into this system, and it's been almost a year06:04
twylightchrist, a whole year06:04
twylightI got arrested for something stupid06:04
twylightbeen trying to get my laptop back online06:04
mefisto__mani213: ok, go with Sixzero's suggestion06:04
twylightit was in a very bad way06:04
ForgeAusnetbeans isn't necessarily necessary... I mean theres other options for the most part, like eclipse and/or kdevelop for example06:04
freeRagwhy anyone needs java  ?06:04
_2twylight i hate to know that anything i do will make me a liar.  and if you click the "i accept" on a M$ EULA then almost anything you do will make you a liar...    so i don't do windows.06:04
mani213i installed envy so how do i uninstall it now so i dont waste hard drive space?06:05
valentinex_2:  :)) ok06:05
twylightEULA is an acronym for Eh? Ur Life Assimilated!06:05
DarkriftXbesides lspci whats a command to show all detected devices in the machine?06:05
mr---t-lshw06:06
twylight!fail06:06
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fail06:06
_2twylight i though it meant  "Eew U want me to agree to that Lol All the way to linux"06:06
Sixzeromani213: go in synaptic, search for ngenvy and checked all the green boxes and tell them to uninstall completely06:07
twylightit has various meanings06:07
mefisto__sudo apt-get remove --purge envyng-core envyng-gtk envyng-qt06:08
twylightEvil Undead Lawyer Attack06:08
_2!info envyng06:08
ubottuPackage envyng does not exist in hardy06:08
_2!envy06:08
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk06:08
Sixzeromani213: sudo apt-get remove --purge envyng-core envyng-gtk envyng-qt06:08
mani213ok06:08
freeRagi love the linux EULA namely the USE AT YOUR OWN RISK bit06:09
mani213i just went to adept manager and removed it06:09
DarkriftXhow about the windows UELA: Use at the risk of everyone around you06:09
_2freeRag i love the fact that it's "your" software.  not "you have the right to use OUR software, as long as you do what we say do with it"06:10
Sixzerodid it finish downloading mani?06:10
twylight206:10
twylightit's more like everyone's software06:10
twylightlinux is the hippie/commie OS, minus the opression. (The drugs are optional)06:11
mefisto__opression?06:11
mr---t-niite all06:11
Sixzeronite t06:11
[pyro]NIGHT FOOL!06:12
[pyro];)06:12
_2fire06:12
freeRagi love waxing hippie/commies06:12
firewall_03can I ask a n00b question06:13
_2firewall_03 another one ?06:13
freeRagshoot06:13
_2you just asked one....06:13
firewall_03thanks,  I am having trouble getting my wifi card to work with 7.04 its a Dlink Dwl-G650 I went to #ubuntu but there a bunch of douche bags06:14
mefisto__people are nicer in #kubuntu than #ubuntu?06:14
mani213the ati driver finished downloading06:14
twylightplease don't use offensive language like that in here, we're only here to try to help06:14
mani213what steps do i take now06:14
firewall_03twylight I wasn't referring to you guys but ok06:15
Sixzeromani213: Ok, right click the file you just downloaded, and rename it to ati.run06:15
_2firewall_03 heh some of the same folks here...   so lets not call names...    but is this wireless ?06:15
freeRag hippie/commies = trols06:15
firewall_03yes it is06:15
mani213okay06:16
mani213now06:16
valentinexmefisto__: yup that's why I left ubuntu >:)06:16
_2!wifi | firewall_03 see if anything here helps06:16
firewall_03_2 I went to the site and looked through a lot of the DOCS06:16
ubottufirewall_03 see if anything here helps: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:16
firewall_03_2 already read through some of that didn't help my cause06:16
freeRagypu need MADwifi06:16
_2firewall_03 i'm not well versed in wifi  so i doubt i'll be of much help.   maybe someone that has a wifi and hopefully a dlink will step up.06:17
firewall_03freeRag ok do I have to download my old install cd or would just downloading it work06:17
mani213what do i do now06:18
freeRagHELP!|06:18
freeRagHELP!06:18
Sixzeromani213: now, open a console window06:18
freeRagfireup kdesu06:18
mani213ok06:18
DarkriftXanyone know how i make kmail sit in the tray instead of closing when i hit close?06:18
DarkriftXit used to do that, but since my reinstal it just exits06:18
Sixzeromani213: now in the console window, type   cd Desktop06:19
Darkhoundanyone here has any experiend with lightning on thunderbird?06:19
Darkhoundi cant seem to find out how to make it send an invitation to atendees06:19
mani213bash: cd: Desktop: No such file or directory06:19
mani213mani213@mani213-desktop:~/Desktop$06:19
freeRagno go to mozzilas irc06:19
firewall_03freeRag just download madwifi06:19
Sixzeromani213: ok, you're already there then06:20
Sixzeromani213: type   sudo sh ati.run06:20
mani213ok06:20
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mani213so when ever i wana install a file thats what i type then file name?06:20
Darkhoundwtf... somone has my nick registared here06:20
Darkhoundwhat is nickserv?06:21
mani213http://paste.ubuntu.com/45639/06:21
mani213i got an error06:21
_2Darkhound /msg nickserv help06:21
Colonel_PanicI wouldn't be surprised if somebody did06:21
Darkhoundi guess there is another darkhound on this IRC server06:21
_2Darkhound nickserv is an irc service provided by freenode06:21
Darkhoundi got this06:22
Darkhoundi am new to all this06:22
Colonel_Panicyou might want to try some alternate name, like "Dimdog" or something06:22
Darkhound[Notice] -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.06:22
freeRaguse hellgod06:22
[pyro]lol06:22
freeRagits free06:22
_2Darkhound then i'd say "if you didn't register that name, you better find another"06:22
[pyro]Darkhound: /nick DarkerHound ;)06:23
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_2Darkhound /nick VeryDarkHound06:23
Darkhound-lol06:23
Sixzeromani213: Hmm, that's weird06:23
[pyro]DarkestHound06:24
Darkhound-well lol thanks guys06:24
Darkhound-this is my 1st day here and my 1st day on linux06:24
Darkhound-everything is new06:24
_2well i'm going to piddle around a bit while i have the free time.   if anyone needs me....    ah....   i'll finish that thought after while.06:25
Ubuntu392944How do I have kubuntu mount a previously created /home dir from another hard disk?06:25
firewall_03I am having trouble getting my wifi card to work with 7.04 its a Dlink Dwl-G650, and I have read through a lot of the docs ubuntus page06:25
SixzeroWhat's this guy missin, y'all.....06:25
SixzeroArchitecture: i686 (32-bit)06:25
SixzeroX Server: unable to detect06:25
freeRagDarkhound-: do you know the linux easter egg ?06:25
freeRagDarkhound-:  type in term sudo  ./06:26
ForgeAustheres only one?06:26
Darkhound-you mean super user06:26
valentinexHello I want to reset my OS fonts etc all sizes how to do this?06:26
Colonel_Panicsudo is the program that lets you run apps as sup[eruser, yes06:26
Sixzeromani213: are you still here?06:26
ForgeAusuh I got command not found06:27
Colonel_Panicif you want to run a kde app as superuser, use kdesu06:27
ForgeAusterm is a command?06:27
_2ForgeAus x-terminal-emulator   is.06:27
ForgeAusxterm is yes06:28
_2ForgeAus and   sudo -i     or who ever needs a root shell06:28
Colonel_Panicxterm is a terminal app, yeah06:28
ForgeAusand terminal (or terminal.app konsole roxterm etc)06:28
freeRagyaquake06:28
freeRagkornshell06:29
_2 x-terminal-emulator06:29
valentinexHow to install netbeans? I got it in .sh extension06:32
Colonel_Panicsudo apt-get install netbeans06:32
Colonel_Panicvalentinex, you a Java developer?06:33
DarkriftXanyone here good with wifi/network managers?06:33
valentinexColonel_Panic: no new I am new to learn.06:33
Daisuke_Idoeclipse.06:33
Colonel_Panicwell netbeans is a development environment for Java06:33
Colonel_Panicit's for developing Java apps06:33
DarkriftXi need to get my wifi configured better... it always connects at 1mb, but my router is close and before the reinstlal i could get 54mb all the time06:33
freeRaglol06:34
valentinexColonel_Panic: so which I should use to learn java language? :-s06:34
Daisuke_Idovalentinex: both will do you just fine06:34
freeRaguse mono06:34
Colonel_Panichehe06:34
Daisuke_IdofreeRag: you're kidding, i hope06:34
Colonel_Panicmono is an attempt to implement the microsoft .NET framework on UNIX06:35
Colonel_Panicstill very glitchy at the mo06:35
Daisuke_Idohence my response.06:35
freeRagi use gambas06:35
Daisuke_Idovalentinex: netbeans will be fine for you06:35
Colonel_Panicnetbeans looks pretty nice, I must say06:35
valentinexDaisuke_Ido: ok :)06:36
Colonel_PanicI'm having trouble locating my jdk directory06:36
freeRagjave is great if your into trojans06:36
freeRagjava is great if your into trojans06:36
valentinexfreeRag: :))06:36
Colonel_Panicit's not in /usr/local06:36
freeRagwhats so funny ?06:37
freeRagtry etc/usr/local06:37
Colonel_PanicI'm more of a Lifestyles guy myself06:38
freeRagyour an idiot but thats beside the point06:39
valentinex:-s wewkz06:39
Colonel_Panicthere is no /etc/usr/local06:41
Darkhound-colonel, do you know how lighnigh works?06:41
freeRagtry var/usr/local06:42
Colonel_PanicfreeRag, if you don't have anything constructive to say, please just don't say anything at all06:42
freeRagconstructive ?06:43
freeRagroflol06:43
freeRagif you r looking for constructive why did you come to irc ?06:44
Colonel_Paniccertainly not to converse with pathetic trolls in #kubuntu06:45
Darkhound-lol seems this freerag is a bithasty06:45
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freeRagfolks now days only come to irc to get profiled by the NSA06:46
valentinexubottu: Hi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:48
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:48
valentinex:D intelligent bor06:48
valentinexbot* I thought human06:48
Daisuke_Idooi06:48
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cknowlesHow can I completely get rid of lirc and all settings for a completely fresh install?06:48
valentinexDaisuke_Ido: indonesian?06:48
Daisuke_Idono06:48
Colonel_PanicJapanese?06:49
freeRagits" i do suck in" indonesian06:49
Daisuke_Idoenough.06:50
Daisuke_Ido!ops | freeRag06:50
ubottufreeRag: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild,  Pici or jussi01!06:50
Agent_bobcknowles sudo apt-get --purge remove lirc     and remove it's local config file, probably in ~/.kde/share/config/06:50
freeRag!ops Daisuke_Ido06:50
Daisuke_Idopersonal insults, insulting a language someone wants to learn, absolute unhelpful attitude...06:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ops daisuke_ido06:50
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valentinexfreeRag:  >:)06:50
naliothlet us be civil06:50
Colonel_PanicDaisuke_Ido, what's the problem?06:51
Colonel_PanicYou want to uninstall IRC?06:51
Daisuke_Idowait what?06:51
Daisuke_Idoi'm not uninstalling anything06:51
Daisuke_Idocknowles was asking about removing lirc06:52
Daisuke_Ido(IR remote control interface)06:52
Colonel_Panicoh sorry06:52
sheik_anyone knows how to change chatroom? still newbie..............06:52
Colonel_PanicI'm in like 4 channels at once here, trying to get help with this problem06:52
eddieftwsheik_: type /j and then the room ame06:53
eddieftwname*06:53
Colonel_Panicsheik_: /join <name of channel you wish to join>06:53
eddieftwfor example /j #kubuntu06:53
eddieftwah right /join ... depends on your chat client06:53
Daisuke_IdoColonel_Panic: what's the issue?06:53
Darkhound-anyone familiar with lightning?06:53
Darkhound-i am trying to send an event ot some atendees but it does not seem to work06:54
sheik_okay but waht are the different channel?06:54
Colonel_Panicsheik_: go to the server window for this server and type: "/list"06:55
Darkhound-brb06:56
CoJaBoAnyone know why I can't connect to my wireless, but any other one seems to work?06:56
sheik_where is the server window(sorry)?06:56
Colonel_Panicwhat client are you using?06:56
valentinexsilence07:05
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mefisto__Darkhound-: my experience with lightning is that it doesn't work properly. did you install it from repos, or d/l from mozilla?07:16
Darkhound-from repos07:16
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Darkhound-good night07:31
freeRaghi07:38
Sixzerohi07:38
Sixzerodid it quiet down in here or somethin?07:39
freeRagroflol07:39
freeRagi guess they are shifting rounds07:40
eddieftwno, but i dont have anything to say07:40
eddieftwand this room isn't all about chatter anyway ;p07:40
jussi01Happens.. if there are no questions, then no answers.07:40
freeRagwere did i put my glasses?07:41
SixzeroIt just seemed to get a lil crazy earlier, hard to keep up for a irc noob like me07:41
freeRaglots of noob in here today roflol07:42
freeRagive only meet noobs today07:42
SixzeroI looked up a copy of Ubuntu at Best Buy today and they wanted $20 for it.  I wonder who makes the money off of it?07:42
SixzeroCanonical?07:43
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freeRagno the kids that burn it07:43
noaXesshi all07:44
noaXessis it normal, that kpdf can't read/fill pdf forms?07:44
Agent_bobfreeRag when is a fellow no longer a noob ?07:45
freeRagtry xpdf07:45
SixzeroAgent_bob: good question.07:45
freeRagi dont know07:45
SixzeroI mean, there's always gonna be something that we don't know07:46
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freeRagbut everyone i talked said they were noobs07:46
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* Agent_bob is a noob only been using linux for 9 years...07:46
Heretic_spbхеллоу алл, есть Java программеры проконсультироваться?07:46
SixzeroI'm a nux noob. :(07:47
Agent_bob!ru07:47
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke07:47
freeRagwell i reckon in this channel you'd have to be knoob07:47
Agent_bobyeah07:48
SixzeroI've got one for ya, agent bob.07:48
Heretic_spbAgent_bob Opps, missing chanel =)07:48
SixzeroEver had a problem with your audio in kubuntu being an octave too high in pitch?07:48
Agent_bobHeretic_spb all i know is i can't parley with you in russian07:49
Agent_bobSixzero umm only a few mp3's that had a strange bitrate07:49
Heretic_spbAgent_bob =)07:49
C0L7 I just set up a dual boot with xp. I need to sync my ipod with itunes from XP, (i really dont like the music players for linux) anyhow...I need to be able to access my music folder in ubuntu from xp. any advice07:50
freeRagbackup 1st07:51
Agent_bobC0L7 yeah ext2fs driver for windarz07:51
C0L7tried that07:51
C0L7it didnt work?07:51
Agent_bobok then  ##windows07:51
C0L7thanks07:52
Agent_bobnp07:52
Agent_bobC0L7 ntfs-3g  linux driver that would let you copy the files to ntfs from linux    also both linux and M$ can natively read/write vfat file systems.   maybe make a small share fs of vfat format07:54
Agent_bobfat32 prolly  ^07:55
freeRagAgent_bob: i need to get the new posted rooktik that uses the kernel debugin features and distribute it using bitorrent can you help me ?07:55
Agent_bobfreeRag lol07:55
Agent_bobfreeRag get all your warez at 127.0.0.107:56
Agent_bob:)07:56
freeRagwhats that means ?07:56
eddieftwnice Agent_bob07:57
freeRagwhat are warez ?07:57
SixzeroYou're kidding, right?07:57
freeRagim talking about worms trojans virus the stuff hackers do07:58
Agent_bobfreeRag if you are truely ignorant.   checkout wikipidia.org and search   "rootkit"  and  "warez"07:58
Agent_bobelse i've said all i'm going to about it.07:58
Agent_bobfi07:58
freeRagfi ?07:59
Agent_bobif ;then ;else ;fi07:59
Agent_bobjust closing the if statement07:59
freeRagwhatever07:59
freeRagno parley foreigner with me pls08:00
noaXessfreeRag: can't kpdf open pdf forms or is there an extention for it?08:02
Agent_bobnoaXess yes kpdf is for pdf format08:02
eddieftw![df08:02
ubottuGraphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T08:02
eddieftw!pdf08:02
ubottupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)08:02
noaXessAgent_bob: i mean, read and fill pdf forms..08:02
noaXessif i open one, that should be a pdf form, kpdf gives me no option to fill in the form fields..08:03
Agent_bobnoaXess oh write to... i don't know,  i never liked pdf08:03
noaXessi know what pdf is..08:03
freeRagi use acrobat reader 608:03
noaXessfreeRag: for lnx08:03
noaXess?08:03
freeRagxpdf08:04
Agent_bob!acroread08:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about acroread08:04
Agent_bob!info acroread08:04
ubottuPackage acroread does not exist in hardy08:04
Agent_bobhmmm08:04
Agent_bobthere is a linux version08:04
jussi01!medibuntu08:05
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org08:05
jussi01noaXess: acrobat is in medibunt08:06
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sizzlehi08:12
jussi01hi08:14
noaXessi will try xpdf..08:16
emilsedghnoaXess: try Okular08:16
noaXessemilsedgh: on kde4 i have okular.. but just on kde3.. will try xpdf first..08:17
emilsedghhm08:17
noaXessemilsedgh: ok.. okular will be the choice, also in kde3 :)08:20
noaXesswhy can't kpdf fill/read pdf forms?08:21
aldinHi, i have noticed that in 8.04 fonts under KDE (3.5) are very bad, is there some specific reason for that? is this common, is there fix fopr that? thanks in advance.08:23
unclean!.run08:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about run08:25
unclean!run08:25
uncleanwhats the deal with .run files?08:25
geekoh08:26
geekthey probably are just scripts08:26
uncleanits for a game though08:26
uncleanits d/ling as a .run08:26
geek,/foo.run?08:26
gmshi08:29
gmsregarding the 4.1 hardy packages, do i have to install some extra package signing keys, or are these packages unsigned by the packagers?08:30
stdingms: PPAs are not signed, nothing we can do about that until Launchpad decides to fix it08:31
gmsstdin, hm, that is unfortunate08:32
stdingms: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/12510308:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 125103 in soyuz "ppa archives are not signed" [High,Confirmed]08:35
gmsthanks, stdin, I was just about to search for this ...08:36
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michele_irc://irc.explosionirc.net/eagles08:58
chairmanhow do u set the virus scanner to auto?09:19
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ActionParsnipyo yo yo10:17
BauldrickI have a wireless pci card, tp-link 353g but I can't seem to get it recognized? lspci doesn't show it there10:34
ActionParsnipis it usb?10:35
jussi01hehe10:35
Bauldrickno pci card10:35
jussi01ActionParsnip: read again :P10:35
ActionParsnipits early and ive jst finished my early grind10:35
Bauldrick:)10:35
* jussi01 hugs ActionParsnip10:35
* ActionParsnip hugs back10:35
ActionParsnip:)10:35
Bauldricki also have tp-link 550g which works perfectly :(10:35
jussi01and you are certain the card is not faulty?10:36
ActionParsnipBauldrick: can you pastebin your lspci output10:36
Bauldrickshould atleast show up shouldn't it? ActionParsnip : this is the second one I've been sent10:36
ActionParsnipBauldrick: you may have to disable acpi to get it working10:37
BauldrickI've got the 'good one' in at the moment, so cant paste lspci, could change around though, how would you disable acpi?10:38
ActionParsnipBauldrick: http://neoaddict.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/disable-acpi-on-boot/10:41
ActionParsnipBauldrick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions10:42
BauldrickI'll give that a go, cheers10:43
neal__hello10:44
ndazzajussi01: following from yesterday, still no luck with those ATI drivers... I'm performing a clean install to an external HDD and attempting to install the drivers there10:45
jussi01:(10:45
ndazzajussi01: I've managed to get the latest drivers installed and running, no errors in the xorg log files, but all I get is a blank screen. Tried an older version of the driver, same problem10:46
jussi01:(10:47
ndazzaanyhow, persisting with the fresh install, hopefully the old nvidia drivers are all that's causing me grief10:47
ActionParsnipndazza: you could try envyng-qt10:49
ndazzaActionParsnip: I looked at that on jussi01's suggestion, but it has no idea what my card is (ATI HD4870) and refuses to install the driver10:50
ActionParsnipi thought you were using nvidia now?10:51
ndazzaActionParsnip: i just jumped from nvidia to ATI10:51
ActionParsnipoh10:51
ActionParsnipive always avoided ati due to poor support10:51
ndazzahence i think the old (ie previously installed) drivers could be conflicting with the new ATI ones10:51
ndazzaI was hoping the new AMD open source strategy might have made a difference10:52
ActionParsnipndazza: as long as they are not referenced they will just sit10:52
ActionParsnipndazza: dpkg -l | grep ati10:52
ActionParsnipmaybe10:52
ndazzaaccording to phoronix the 4870 shipped with same-day linux support10:52
ndazzathe ati drivers actually install .deb packages10:53
ActionParsnipndazza: no good for gentoo then eh ;)10:53
ActionParsniphehe10:53
ndazzahehe10:53
ndazzanot so much10:53
ndazzaalthough it supports oodles of distros10:53
ndazzafrom memory at least red hat, suse and ubuntu are supported, including intrepid10:54
ndazzadon't remember what the others were10:54
ActionParsnipi just stick to nvidia, tried and tested10:56
santiago-vehi guys, any of you know a way to use a ldap machine as login server for any linux distro?10:57
santiago-veldap server*10:57
ActionParsnip!ldap | santiago-ve10:57
ubottusantiago-ve: LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer10:57
deamoonhi ppl10:59
deamoonwho could tell me what player bes for listening mp3?10:59
deamooni got amarok10:59
ActionParsnipamarok plays mp3s11:00
ActionParsnip!mp3 | deamoon11:00
ubottudeamoon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:00
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santiago-ve!pam11:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pam11:01
santiago-ve!PAM11:01
santiago-ve:/11:01
santiago-veActionParsnip: thanks that helped me to get on the rails11:01
Bauldrickdisadling acpi didn't seem to work, heres the lspci http://pastebin.com/m604f2ba611:01
santiago-veBauldrick: use lshw11:03
santiago-vesudo lshw11:03
ActionParsnipBauldrick: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter11:03
ActionParsnipBauldrick: do you have onboard graphics?11:04
BauldrickActionParsnip: yes it does11:04
ActionParsnipBauldrick: oh you're having issues with wifi11:05
ActionParsnipRealtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)11:05
ActionParsnipyou need to find how to install an RTL-8185 wifi11:05
Bauldricksudo lshw gave this lot http://pastebin.com/m71b37ba611:08
ActionParsniphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32694511:09
ActionParsnipBauldrick: ok the bottom block is what you need, it says unclaimed == no driver11:09
ActionParsnipBauldrick: i think there is a realtek driver to compile from realtek, id go scope that out11:10
Bauldrickwill do, cheers. I know it's not broken atleast11:11
stamenhi, why I can't upgrade to new k3b. I am with kubuntu Hardy11:16
ForgeAusI don't understand why I can't exit from KDM11:16
stamenit says that is kept back11:16
ForgeAusor actualy I shuld say exit from X completely..11:17
stamenForgeAus: what you want to do11:17
ForgeAusinstead I on;y get options to shut down or restart (or log in/out hibernate /sleep)11:17
ForgeAusnothing now stamen but I was having troubles with my xorg.conf11:17
stamenyou can reset X and after that from the menu u can choose to login via terminal11:18
mrxmikeANYONE tried /testin Intrepred?11:18
ForgeAusmy X wasn't loading half the time and when it did it would be in an invalid gfx mode... I didn't know how to quit the running X server11:18
stamenyou can kill it11:18
stamen:)11:18
stamendo you know how11:18
ForgeAusnor did I know how to exit from KDM (out of X) back to the cli I was in11:18
ForgeAusuh it didn't work when I killed X11:19
ForgeAus(did you mean kill KDM?)11:19
stamenpress at the same time ctrl+alt+F211:19
mrxmikeHOW UNSTABLE is Intrepid ?11:19
stamenlog in there, and11:19
ForgeAusyeah that switches VT's but X is still running...11:19
mrxmikeis it pretty usable11:19
mrxmike??11:19
stamenyes, kill kdm11:19
ForgeAusmrxmike I'm not using intrepid so I wouldn't know11:19
stamenstop it11:19
mrxmikeForgeAus: why would i care to get your response.11:20
ForgeAuscan' /etc/init.d/kdm stop do that more gracefully?11:20
ForgeAusmrxmike you asked a question I was just answering it...11:20
mrxmikei would like to 'beta-test' Intrepid, but if its pretty unusable..........11:20
mrxmikeForgeAus: suck a goatse11:20
ForgeAusdoesn't KDM and/or X use those lock files?11:21
mrxmikeIntrepid was planned for 19-SEPTEMBER11:23
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mrxmikebut its already available for a week... , so they made the deadline easily11:23
mrxmikeor how should i see this?11:24
stamenso than try to to do this when you login: sudo /init.d/kdm stop11:25
stamenso than try to to do this when you login: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop11:25
stamenand it should stop it11:26
ForgeAusok stamen thanx,11:26
ForgeAusI was trying to close X and it should have been KDM all along, no wonder it was causing me headaches :)11:26
ForgeAusnext time I'm tinkering with xorg.conf I'll have to try it11:26
stamen:)11:26
mefisto__well if you kill X kdm and any other program that runs under X will be killed11:27
akachaok11:31
wesley_Where´s the channel about development version 8.10 ?11:37
rob_melbcan some one help a newbee with where to find nonfree reg setup?11:38
rob_melbwhere and what is use in kde11:38
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CrossHow can i add a mp3 to a video track?11:40
ghostcubeCross: have u tried kino ?11:40
Crossno11:40
ghostcubeits an video edit tool11:40
ghostcubelike studio on windooz11:41
Crossokay i use normal kdenlive but kdenlive failed with the audio output11:41
ghostcubenever tried enlive11:41
Crosskdenlive is really good11:41
Crossbut kdenlive crashed right away in 8.10. By the way does someone know if they are fixing that bug in knetworkmanager that prevents from conecting to wlan11:43
ghostcubeCross: 8.10 is still alpha11:45
Crossi know but works pretty good11:45
shadowhywindhay all, when i change my volume it changes the PCM vol. not the master, anyone know to switch it around?11:48
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doombonjour11:52
doomle serveur msn est of ou s'est chez moi qu'il y a un souci ?11:53
shadowhywindlets see if this works,11:54
shadowhywind!ubuntu-fr11:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-fr11:55
shadowhywinddoom: #ubuntu-fr11:55
favro!fr11:56
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr11:56
doomthanks :)11:56
shadowhywindah! do many things, hehe have to remember that11:56
Farghdoom, I have troubles logging into MSN aswell12:01
mefisto__if you're having problems with msn connection in kopete, try changing to "use HTTP method" in the connection settings12:30
SuperSubhi12:32
jussi01hi12:33
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[pyro]hi12:33
ZUEScan anyone help me as I just upgraded my system to 8.04 LTS and now I cannot watch any AVI movies?12:34
jussi01ZUES: make sure you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed12:37
_-Jay-_Hey hey,  anyone having trouble with their KDE panels after the last update. Mine are kinda sick12:44
[pyro]_-Jay-_: nope12:46
_-Jay-_dang,  mine just look like they are having refreshing issues12:46
[pyro]u reboot / restart x ?12:47
_-Jay-_like Programs i have closed still appear in the task bar until another program writes over that spot..12:47
_-Jay-_yeah tried both restarts12:47
_-Jay-_tried re-sizing12:48
_-Jay-_tried remove and adding the pane's again12:48
[pyro]_-Jay-_: are you using compiz ?12:48
_-Jay-_[pyro]: Yeah,  you think that might be causing me issues?12:48
[pyro]_-Jay-_: try disabling it for starters, see that stops it, that way you can narrow down the problem.12:50
_-Jay-_fair call,  do an x restart now,   brb12:51
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_-Jay-_[pyro]: yeah seams to be compiz making a a mess... It really doesn't like the kde panel does it13:04
[pyro]_-Jay-_: im not using compiz atm, it doesnt like my POS video card13:04
[pyro]try playing with compiz's various settings, you may find one of the effects is causing the problem13:05
_-Jay-_yeah i had the problem for a while my last one kinda broke/burned/melted13:05
_-Jay-_thanks for the hand [pyro].13:07
_-Jay-_Hmmm seems to be just with hidding turned on....13:13
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_Bauldricki managed to get my rtl8185 based wifi card to show up in iwconfig, but the modules weren't installed perminanty. Now, after reboot, I get insmod: error inserting 'ieee80211/ieee80211-rtl.ko': -1 Invalid module format13:17
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favroBauldrick: afaik you need to add the module to /etc/modules13:20
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Sarge_TJHi, I just switched to Kubuntu. Do I need a separate firewall (firestarter, for example), or is there some sort of built in firewall in Kubuntu?13:20
mrxmikewhat internet connection type do you have?13:20
mrxmikewith what modem?13:21
mrxmikeis there a interprid channel guys, or a kubu dev channel?13:21
favro!intrepid13:21
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!13:21
mrxmike'Warning lots of breaking'13:21
mrxmikethats pretty much right =)13:21
favro!firewall | Sarge_TJ13:22
ubottuSarge_TJ: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).13:22
Sarge_TJI have a WLAN (Buffalo Airstation), no modem, I just plug it in the wall13:22
_Bauldrickfavro: I was following this : http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Installing#Making_and_installing_the_driver  - it worked first time, but now won't install13:23
favroBauldrick: tried rebuilding the module?13:30
jlidoI installed KDE4 and now my fonts are so huge I can't see what's going on in both KDE 3 and 4.13:31
jlidoCan someone help, please?13:31
jlidoThis is on Hardy.13:31
_Bauldrickfavro: a few times, it's only the last one that says invalid13:31
jussi01jlido: try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 ;)13:31
jlidoyeah, but it's affecting KDE3 too13:32
favro_Bauldrick: well the error is invalid module format - looked in their forums?13:36
jlidoxorg says it's set the DPI to 96.  So there should be no reason to have the font's 1/3rd the height of my screen.13:36
jlidobefore I installed KDE4 I was having this font problem in kdm, but once I logged in to KDE3 they went back to the correct size.13:40
jlidoWhich was embarrasing, but at least I could work around it.13:40
mrxmike!launchpad13:43
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/13:43
mrxmikewhere is kubuntu on launchpad, i need to report bug(s)13:43
Picimrxmike: Kubuntu shares the same packages as Ubuntu, so just file the bugs under the same packages.13:44
mrxmikePici: i cant find dolphin on launchpad13:45
Picimrxmike: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin13:46
Bauldrickfavro: why would it work the first time though? I'm lost13:57
Lokiasehello, i'm having problems to install kubuntu on a old pc, is their all smaller distro (less ram-usage, hd, etc).... hasn't to be kubuntu but i prefer kde13:59
Lokiase[14:59] <Lokiase> hello, i'm having problems to install kubuntu on a old pc, is their all smaller distro (less ram-usage, hd, etc).... hasn't to be kubuntu but i prefer kde14:03
favroBauldrick: did you update a kernel or something?14:05
lokaihow is KDE/Ubuntu in terms of Tablet PC support?14:06
Lokiase[14:59] <Lokiase> hello, i'm having problems to install kubuntu on a old pc, is their all smaller distro (less ram-usage, hd, etc).... hasn't to be kubuntu but i prefer kde14:09
Bauldrickfavro: nope, just rebooted and now i get that error everytime I try to install them, I just seen my card may work with 2.26.27 in Intrepid, I'll give that a shot - not very wise I know  but hey14:10
favroLokiase: kde is considered one of the heaviest window evironments14:10
ZUEScan anyone help me as I just upgraded my system to 8.04 LTS and now I cannot watch any AVI movies?14:11
Lokiasei have a P3, which linux-distro should i install?14:12
favroLokiase: there is xubuntu-ps3 I think14:13
favroLokiase: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_314:14
Lokiasenot a playstation, a pentium 3 :)14:15
favroheh14:15
favroLokiase: try xubuntu http://www.xubuntu.org/14:17
deamoonguys what graphic car should i get that it would work on linux with no problem cos mine ati is playing a bit14:17
deamoon?14:17
lokaideamoon: what do you have now...?14:20
deamoonati radeon x600pro14:20
lokaiand you followed the instructions here? https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/graphics-cards.html14:21
lokaiwow bad link, 6.1014:21
roozbehhi to all14:22
deamoonwell im nob on linux :D14:22
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deamoonhow can i save xorg file ?14:23
Alex135anyone been able to get kismet and aircrack-ng running properly on kubuntu useing a atheros wifi card?14:23
lokaideamoon: try here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI14:24
Alex135!ATI14:24
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto14:24
lokaideamoon: you shouldn't have to modify your xorg.conf file.14:25
ghostcubeAlex135: yes i tried it and if u use the patches it works so far14:25
Alex135ghostcube: how did you do it? i cant get kismet to recieve packets, same with airodump14:25
Alex135ghostcube: yes i put my wifi card into monitor mode14:26
ghostcubemadwifi has excellent howtos14:26
ghostcubekismet sux14:26
ghostcubeto slow14:26
Alex135ghostcube: i have looked and havn't found one that seems to work (i have recompiled madwifi several times aswell)14:26
ghostcubeAlex135: hmmm14:27
ghostcubei hacked my own wlan14:27
ghostcubeon proxim atheros one14:27
ghostcubeAlex135: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php#documentation14:28
ghostcubeand there is aircrack-ptw14:28
ghostcubelot faster then ng14:28
ghostcubehttp://www.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/aircrack-ptw/14:28
Alex135hmmm14:29
ghostcubeu need the patches from aircrack for madwifi14:29
ghostcubeto get this working14:29
ghostcubeand make sure u havce the right one14:29
ghostcubeif there is aonly an patch tto an older madwifi revision u must use the older revsiion14:29
Alex135fun... alright14:30
ghostcube:)14:30
Alex135thanks, ill start working on it14:30
Alex135(for the 5th time) :p14:30
ghostcubeand there is a new tool for hacking wpa but i wont tell it in this chan until its officialy released14:30
ghostcube;)14:30
starenkayep the package name is steal-the-router14:35
spinfusorjoin #linuxmce14:36
starenkatry adding "/"14:36
lapoisseHi14:36
starenkahi14:36
lapoisseI need help with my graphic card14:37
lapoisseI can install the nvidia driver, but it s out of order14:38
lapoissefirst problem in the past (with a GC witch work), I install compiz14:40
lapoissenowaday I want to clear  the references to it14:40
lapoissebut when I do  ps -ef | grep compiz14:40
lapoissekwrapper ksmserver --windowmanager /usr/bin/compiz.real14:41
lapoisseWhere can I clear this call?14:41
lapoisse /usr/bin/compiz.real does not exist14:41
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bipbiphi14:58
jonathan_hello!15:12
jonathan_which package do i need to install to use the kernel source??15:12
jonathan_i can#t find a package called "kernel-source"15:12
jussi01!info linux-source | jonathan_15:13
ubottujonathan_: linux-source (source: linux-meta): Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.24.19.21 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB15:13
jonathan_thanks :)15:14
jussi01no probs15:14
jonathan_hm than i have a big problem :)15:14
jonathan_or a small but big for me ;)15:14
jussi01jonathan_: what is it?15:14
jonathan_i do already have the newest version of this package15:14
Githzeraijonathan_: If u wan't to experiment with linux kernel, you might also wan't to check out the latest version from kernel.org15:14
jussi01jonathan_: I assume you are compiling a driver or something?15:15
jonathan_and i get the following error:15:15
jonathan_ ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.";               \15:15
jonathan_        echo "         include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing.";      \15:15
jonathan_        echo "         Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it.";  \15:15
jonathan_yes a webcam-driver15:15
jussi01jonathan_: hrm, Ive not seen that one.15:16
jonathan_yes no one did yet ;)15:16
Githzeraijonathan_: for a simle driver(kernel module) you don't need to compile entire kernel, just the module. That's what linux-headers are for ;)15:16
jonathan_even google doesn't realy know about that15:16
jonathan_hm, then what do i have to change? i just said "make all"15:16
jonathan_and that was the error i got15:17
jonathan_the "make oldconf etc"15:17
jonathan_did it's job fine but didn't change a thing :/15:17
Githzeraijonathan_: have u run make config (menuconfig,xconfig) before make ?15:17
jonathan_no15:18
GithzeraiU need to configure kernel before compiling it.15:18
jonathan_in the same directory as the program i want to compile is within?15:18
jonathan_and how do i configure kernel?15:19
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jonathan_sorry, but i'm just a beginner and just want my webcam working ;)15:19
Githzeraijonathan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile This is an excelent tutorial on kernel compiling15:19
jonathan_hm15:19
jonathan_do i realy need to recompile me kernel only to get my webcam working that worked on windows out of the box?!15:19
jussi01jonathan_: no, you shouldnt. which webcam btw?15:20
jonathan_a quickcam15:20
jonathan_logitech15:20
Githzeraijonathan_: Though I think u just nid to compile kernel module (driver) for webcam.... Can u give me the driver source link, so I can check what it's all about ?15:20
ghostcubeJonathan this should work with quickcam driver out of the box15:21
jussi01jonathan_: can you go toterminal and type: lspci and give me the line about it?15:21
jonathan_i have a usb cam15:21
ghostcubelsusb15:21
* jussi01 has a quickcam - it has a major bug...15:21
jonathan_and the cam is displayed like this: Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger15:21
ghostcubejussi01: me too but it dont work in skype so i bopught an microsoft :)15:22
jussi01jonathan_: I want the whole line thanks15:22
jonathan_it worked allright, yesterday, but the resolution was only half the size it should have been because with windows i was able to record in 640x48015:22
jonathan_and with linux it was only 320x28015:22
jonathan_and so i tried to fix that ...15:22
ghostcubejonathan_: webcam and linux isnt the best story :D15:22
jonathan_hm that's what i'm hearing all the time about every stuff... :/#15:23
jussi01manufacturers...15:23
ferdinandhallo an alle15:24
jussi01!de15:24
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de15:24
jonathan_;)15:25
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jussi01jonathan_: can you give me the full lsusb line?15:25
ghostcubei got an brother scanner to work yesterday so its not all bad15:25
ghostcube:D15:25
jonathan_Bus 006 Device 005: ID 04b4:6830 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. USB-2.0 IDE Adapter15:25
jonathan_Bus 006 Device 003: ID 0c0b:b136 Dura Micro, Inc. (Acomdata)15:25
jonathan_Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:000015:25
jonathan_Bus 005 Device 005: ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger15:25
ghostcubejussi lol15:26
jussi01jonathan_: please dont paste to the channel - I just needed the 1 line :)15:27
ghostcube!pastebin15:27
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:27
ghostcube:)15:27
ghostcubenopaste.info is much faster heh15:27
jonathan_yes i already wrote i will use pastebin next time ;)15:28
jonathan_found something interesting?15:28
ghostcubejonathan_: hmm the id isnt listed anywhere15:30
jonathan_the id is listed everywhere ;)15:30
jonathan_and tells me i do have to use the qc-usb driver15:30
jonathan_http://www.linux-forum.de/quickcam-messenger-046d-08f0-8121.html15:30
jonathan_for example in there15:30
jonathan_(german)15:31
ghostcubejonathan_: http://home.mag.cx/messenger/15:31
jonathan_and, as i sayed, i had it already working15:31
jonathan_hm i know where i get the driver from ;)15:32
jussi01jonathan_: sudo modprobe qc-usb15:33
jonathan_my problem was the compiling15:33
jussi01( I think)15:33
jonathan_FATAL: Module qc_usb not found.15:33
jussi01hrm, wonder what the module is called15:33
jonathan_but i hadn't it compiled right now15:33
jonathan_so how should it be working if i didn't install it right now ;)15:34
ghostcubelocate qc*.ko15:35
ghostcubelocate q*.ko15:35
ghostcubeand to nopaste.info if any results15:35
nelsonstreetAnyone have a problem with Amarok, where you try to load a web site radio station, and it says "There is no availible decoder"15:36
ghostcubeamarok-xine still needed maybe ?15:36
ghostcubeor any amarok addon ?15:36
jonathan_hm15:36
nelsonstreetbrb will try those15:36
jonathan_the ko file isn't compiled15:37
ghostcubeu need the kernel headers ans build-essential and libtool15:37
jonathan_Which kernel headers? the newest?15:37
jonathan_and the common?15:37
ghostcubethe one u use15:37
ghostcubeuname -r15:37
Githzeraijonathan_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r'15:38
nelsonstreetamarok-xine is auto detect15:39
jonathan_i have linux-headers-2.6.24-19 installed15:40
jonathan_i think thats the one i should have15:41
Githzerainelsonstreet: You probably need real audio codec, which is maintained in medibuntu repo, w32codecs or w64codecs package15:41
nelsonstreetyeah it was the w64 codec just found it lol15:42
Githzeraijonathan_: It's the right one, then. Now, all u need is to compile the module from the source package you have. A good source package must have INSTALL and README text files within archive with a instalation process explained, or relevant link to installation procesure tutorial....15:46
jonathan_yes they say i only need to run the ./quickcam.sh script to install the messengetr15:48
jonathan_but then i get the same compiler-error as above15:49
jonathan_Kernel source is "2.6.24.3" but running kernel is "2.6.24-19-generic"15:50
jonathan_maybe this could be the error?15:51
emiliahello15:51
aaroncampbellCan anyone visit http://webdevnews.net/ in firefox 3.0.1 on Kubuntu and tell me if all the images have horrible artifacts (look distorted or over-optimized)?15:54
bob_according to firefox that page conatins coding errors, FYI15:55
ghostcubejonathan_: yes cause u have the wrong headers installed15:55
jonathan_hm15:55
ghostcubedpkg -l | grep linux    to nopaste.info15:56
jonathan_how do i change this because i'm sure i have the right one installed ;)15:56
aaroncampbellbob_: yes, one error relating to how WordPress inserts captions, and quite a few because the digg/reddit buttons don't validate.  Nothing to worry about though15:56
jonathan_http://nopaste.info/f773cc01a7.html15:57
ghostcubejonathan_: where is this sh file on the page ?15:58
jonathan_sh file?15:59
Githzeraijonathan_: what's the output of: uname -a ?15:59
jonathan_Linux Kubuntu-7 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 22:56:21 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux16:00
ghostcubehmm ok i looked into that sh file and i dont get where it detecs the old kernel source16:01
Githzeraijonathan_: so u have the right headers , there is something in the instal procedure you're missing. Link to source archive would be most usefull as we are just quessing without it, and i could take ages to hit the right way ;)16:02
Githzeraisorry for my typoes :)16:02
ghostcubeGithzerai: he has linux-source and linux-source-2.6.2416:02
ghostcubeis source needed ?16:02
ghostcubewithout numering16:02
ghostcube*b16:03
Githzeraighostcube: I ment the source archive of a webcam driver he's trying to install16:04
ghostcubeGithzerai: i can show u the 1.8 source of it16:04
Githzeraighostcube: would be nice ;)16:05
ghostcubehttp://home.mag.cx/messenger/source/16:05
ghostcube;)16:05
ghostcubejonathan_u are trying the 1.8 version or ?16:06
ghostcubefrom 200816:06
jonathan__yes i do16:06
ghostcubelooks like the sh file searches for the linux-source file and not the linux-source-2.4.2416:07
ghostcube*616:07
Githzeraijonathan__ & ghostcube : There's a file named _README_MESSENGER i nthe 1.8 source archive with install procedure ;)16:09
ghostcube;) ok will have a lok16:09
Rioting_pacifistis there a problem with sourceforge svn ssh atm ? im getting an invalid cert is this a mitm attack or just a temporary problem at sf?16:10
ghostcubeGithzerai: so sudo make install should do it ?16:11
jonathan__hm the tip just to type "make install" isn't very helpful ;)16:11
ghostcubejonathan_ it is sudo make install16:12
ghostcubewhat does it say16:12
ghostcube:D16:12
Githzeraijonathan__: Yes, it shuld, then just load modules as stated below16:12
ghostcubebbl guys16:13
jonathan__hm16:15
jonathan__iwrote it three times now16:15
jonathan__it isn't compiling with the error message invalid kernel configuration.16:15
jonathan__and make prepare after make oldconfig returns the following error:16:15
jonathan__make[1]: *** Keine Regel vorhanden, um das Target »arch/x86/kernel/asm-offsets.c«,16:16
jonathan__  benötigt von »arch/x86/kernel/asm-offsets.s«, zu erstellen.  Schluss.16:16
jonathan__oh16:16
jonathan__sorry i will translate16:16
jonathan__make[1]: *** There are no rules to create the target "arch/x86/kernel/asm-offsets.c", used by "arch/x86/kernel/asm-offsets.s". End.16:17
jonathan__hm is the normal header folder or the generic header folder the one i need for compiling drivers?16:29
mrxmikehow do i easily create a iso from a folder?16:34
bob_install acetone2iso from getdeb mrkmike16:35
trappistmrxmike: man mkisofs16:37
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MarcoBXBRO1Does anyone know a great kubuntu book16:47
sbucatmmm book?16:48
sbucatgoogle xD16:48
MarcoBXBRO1especially for advance users16:48
MarcoBXBRO1yeah16:48
MarcoBXBRO1I like to read on the train16:48
spawn57i don't think there are many16:50
spawn57what're you trying to learn though?16:50
MarcoBXBRO1nothing its for a friend16:50
sbucatMarcoBXBRO1: google------print xD16:50
MarcoBXBRO1he wants a kubuntu book16:50
spawn57heh16:51
spawn57if you go adavnced, you might as well look into debian stuff16:51
MarcoBXBRO1I told him the documentation is kubi site16:51
MarcoBXBRO1ok16:51
spawn57or just read more about stuff done in linux, like apache, joomla etc16:51
spawn57I'm no pro though :P16:51
Rioting_pacifistis it possible to turn on a usb hub maunally, my webcam is intermitantly listed by lsub short of physical damage which i cant see all i can think is happening is that the hub is not powered on all of the time16:54
Githzeraispawn57: how about Linux Bible 2008 edition ? ;)16:56
MarcoBXBRO1that shit sucks16:56
spawn57those work, but they're overviews16:56
spawn57you won't get indepth info outta'em16:56
spawn57they go over a tonne of things like samba, apache, configs, and other services..16:57
spawn57alright to start with16:57
emlHey, how can I check which version of libmtp I have? I'm trying to get MTP and my Sansa Clip mp3-player to be friends. :-)16:57
spawn57apt-cache show libmtp16:58
Githzeraieml: Use adept or synaptic, u will have version displayed16:58
Rioting_pacifistMarcoBXBRO1: what do you mean by advanced user? it depends what your looking to do, generally i dont think there is a "kubuntu" book or even a "kde" one there may be some nice debian (or even ubuntu) admin books though16:58
MarcoBXBRO1kernal16:58
emlGithzerai, Ah true, I was in my terminal already so I just went by it.16:59
emlLooks like I'm going to have to install a new version, which is not in the repository. :-(16:59
Githzeraieml: check the ppa's https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas , maybe you'll find .deb16:59
emlThanks!17:00
MarcoBXBRO1Linux Kernel Development17:00
GithzeraiMarcoBXBRO1: Now, that's for fanatics ;)17:00
emlMan how lucky am I: https://launchpad.net/~foxmike/+archive17:01
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emlNot the newest version but maybe new enough17:01
MarcoBXBRO1Githzerai I don't like to be a sheep17:01
MarcoBXBRO1I follow my own tune17:02
MarcoBXBRO18)17:02
MarcoBXBRO1:D17:02
emlDamnit, now it tells me I'll have to remove amarok if I want to remove libmtp7 all of a sudden... how can I avoid doing that?17:03
GithzeraiMarcoBXBRO1: Well, kernel development isn't something you wan;t to practice during train ride: You'll get sick :D17:03
Rioting_pacifistMarcoBXBRO1: Im sure there will be a linux kernel book about but i doubt it will be an interesting read unless you 1) are a c junkie 2) know about kernel design 3) are a sadist17:03
Rioting_pacifistlinux kernel newbies is a good website perhaps they can suggest a good book17:04
eml:-( I've added a repository where a package called libmtp8 is, but even after I added it I can't find it when I search for it. I did do apt-cache update after adding it to sources.list17:09
Picieml: The command is apt-get update17:09
emlAh well that one I did, mistyped it17:09
emlStill, the problem remains17:10
emlAnd damnit, amarok depends on libmtp7 which I need to have uninstalled too17:11
Picieml: Apt-cache policy libmtp7   may be enlightening17:11
emlNope, not to me, I'm probably missing something important?17:12
Kubuntohello17:12
Kubunto??17:12
Rioting_pacifist€1a17:12
Rioting_pacifist!ask17:12
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)17:12
GladyMarco look at this one http://www.kroah.com/lkn/17:13
Kubuntoque cosas17:13
Kubuntoque todo estan mute17:15
emlOkay now I've almost got my problem solved, I've installed a version of MTP that can handle my mp3-player. All I need to do now is install amarok WITHOUT libmtp7 because that'll install the wrong version of MTP which means I won't be able to contact my mp3-player from amarok anyways :/ any ideas?17:17
Kubuntomejor formate el pc pasate a windows17:19
Kubuntolinux es chinvo17:19
emlAlternatively if I could get amarok to use libmtp8 instead of libmtp717:21
DanuHi somebody here use kbfx?17:22
Githzeraieml: what exact libmtp u have now ?17:23
emllibmtp7 and libmtp8 :-P17:23
emlI can't install amarok without installing libmtp717:23
jeroen-does anyone have problems with wubi>?17:24
emilsedghDanu: just ask17:24
Danui can't apply kbfx themes :(17:27
Githzeraieml: by libmtp8 you probably mean 0.3.0 ,and amarok in hardy depends on 7 (0.2.6). I dot think ther is an solution except to compile amarok with libmtp 0.3.0.17:31
Githzeraieml: Perhaps u can explain in more details why u need specificaly libtmp8 ?17:32
emlGithzerai, Yep you're right about that. I need the 0.3.0 version of it beacuse 0.2.6 does not support my mp3-player :-)17:33
Githzeraieml: One, bot absolutely not recomended, solution is to use amarok 1.4.10 from Intrepid, which uses libmtp8....17:34
emlSomeone in #amarok talked about it being in backports, may I ask what backports is? I'll take a look at that then17:35
Githzeraieml: software sources - updates - unsupported updates... I'm on Intrepid, so could'nt check it right away ... ;)17:36
emlOh there's a repository for intrepid? Can I have the needed lines for my sources.list?17:37
Githzeraieml: As I've said, it's highly not recomended solution. Check backports first ^^^17:38
emlAh, know I know what intrepid is :-p17:38
emlWell, I wish I knew what backports was17:39
Githzeraieml: software sources - updates - unsupported updates...17:39
emlAh yes17:40
emlAh, I'm updating everything, hope it turns out well17:41
emlHeh, I was going to go drumming 1:40hrs ago, but I wanted to add a playlist to my mp3-player... wasn't a 20min job at all :)17:42
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Githzeraieml: Well u'll get latest kde 3.5.10 (by lates, of course, I mean latest kde3 ;) )17:42
emlOh17:42
eml:(17:42
emlThen I won't17:43
Githzeraieml: Why, not ?17:43
jessicahey guys17:44
emlGithzerai, I want to stay with kde417:44
ekHi, jessica.17:44
Githzeraieml: I ment latest kde 3, 3.5.10 is in backports, so u'll get updates for already installed kde 3 programs ;)17:44
Acid_Ukeven all17:45
emlGithzerai, Oh, then I'll do it :-)17:45
Acid_Ukor i should say good evening17:45
ekHi, Acid_Uk.17:45
emlEvening, and bye. Time to go drumming17:45
ekHaha. Have fun.17:45
Githzeraieml: :) Bye.17:46
sparrmy linux desktop is behind a NAT firewall.  is there a remote control solution like gotomypc (client-server-client) that i could use to control this computer from outside?17:49
jerome_hi all17:57
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pierre_slt17:58
Acid_Ukwots happening in here all very QT17:59
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ekErm?18:01
Acid_Ukok not alot I take it18:04
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Guest77197How do you imort emoticons in kopete ?18:06
mattinwpghi... very new hardy user here trying to get my laptop to work with my wifi... i'm trying to install wpagui and i get the message "error: dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-core." any help?18:06
Acid_Uk1st off whats the chip set of your wifi card18:07
Acid_Ukalso have you tried to add libqt library set18:07
mattinwpgit's a broadcom... i'll have to find that sudo command thing to get more info. no i'll try that first i guess18:08
Acid_Ukif its a broadcom you may have to use a ndiswrapper18:08
joel_Konversation is type cool!18:08
Acid_Ukas broadcom are a night mare at they have been for me18:08
mattinwpgi think i recall reading something about that in the support forums...18:08
Acid_Uki could't get my belkin one to work so had to switch18:09
Guest77197can't i have a private chat , i need help with a kopete patch18:09
Guest77197plz18:09
mattinwpgwhen i do lshw -C network it tells me it's a BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g)18:10
Acid_Ukhold on will check now18:12
Guest77197A simple uestion : how do i import/add emoticons in kopete ?18:12
Kubuntoاعادة او البكم18:13
jussi01!sa18:13
ubottuFor the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa18:13
joel_I think Kmess is better than kopete18:14
joel_pretty smooth18:14
Acid_UkBCM4318 use the windows driver18:14
Kubuntoy que18:14
Acid_Ukand then ndiswrapper it18:14
jussi01Kubunto: english only in here please18:14
Kubuntoya se18:14
mattinwpgi'm a complete noob. i've downloaded ndsiwrapper but am working out how to install it... then i suppose i should go to the broadcom site and get the windows driver?18:15
Kubuntoa channel that is in politics18:15
Kubuntoquien18:15
jussi01Kubunto: ##politics18:15
Kubuntook18:15
jussi01mattinwpg: try installing ndisgtk18:16
Acid_Uknormally something like ndiswrapper <xpdriver.INI>18:16
Acid_Ukmodprobe ndiswrapper18:16
Kubuntovote for Obama18:16
Acid_Ukopen up network manager see if it it works18:16
jussi01Kubunto: not in here please18:16
Acid_Uk<kubuntu> no politics18:17
jussi01!tab > Acid_Uk18:17
ubottuAcid_Uk, please see my private message18:17
Kubuntook ya se soy sur americano me gusta el imperio gringo18:18
jussi01Kubunto: this is the last time I will ask - english only please18:18
Kubunto <jussi01>there is a problem if you write in Spanish bothers18:19
Kubunto???18:20
jussi01Kubunto: yes - this channel is english only18:20
Kubuntojussi01 and only for understanding the gringo18:21
Kubuntobye18:21
jussi01bye18:21
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derduisooo, kde4 ist installiert, nur sind die uhr und die shortcuts in der kontrolleiste auf der linken seite statt rechts, weiss jemand wie man das ändert?18:27
mattinwpghmm well let's see if this works. thanks for your help folks.18:31
jerome_hi all18:39
Jampiter...Dang. I forgot what I was going to ask18:39
JampiterOh yeah18:40
JampiterWhen I run some programs (FF, Synaptics, GIMP) etc in KDE, the widgets look terrible in contrast to the Oxygen stuff18:40
JampiterHow can I make them Oxygenned?18:40
JampiterAm I right in thinking it's something to do with GTK?18:41
jussio1Jampiter: kde4?18:41
JampiterYeah18:41
Jampiter4.1.118:41
jussio1Jampiter: join #kubuntu-kde418:41
joel_ouch18:42
joel_KDE4 is not yet 'polished'18:42
newbiezhello, how do i switch from sqlite to mysql?18:42
JampiterOk, cheers18:42
jerome_what is the channel for french18:42
jussio1!fr18:42
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr18:42
venikWHat should I have in my smb.conf so that printers connected to my Kubuntu 8.04 machine can be used by an XP machine on the network?18:43
joel_does anyone know how to delete the 'bluetooth' icon on system settings18:46
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JampiterHow do I edit a file as root from dolphin (.lst)19:01
DarkhoundHello guys19:01
Darkhoundquick question19:01
Darkhoundhow do I delete a printer that I no longer use from my list19:02
Jampiter?19:02
venikDark-- in your browser address, type http://localhost:631/printers/19:02
venikThen choose printers, and delete printer19:02
venikCUPS through a browser makes it really nice19:03
Darkhoundvenik: thank you so very muc19:06
venikurwc19:06
venikWhy do I have TWO smb.conf ?  One in /etc/samba/ and the other in usr/share/samba/  ?19:09
JampiterGaah.. I want to edit this damn file as root and it's not letting me! How do I make it work??19:09
venikMy favorite way is to use Krusader in root mode19:09
venikit has a nice built in editor19:09
JampiterWhat's Krusader?19:10
venika very nice file manager that emulates the Norton COmmander19:10
JampiterLike Midnight Commander?19:10
venikyes19:10
JampiterSo how do I make that work?19:10
venikof course u can also type: sudo kate /,,,,filename.19:11
venikbut I highly recommand krusader19:11
veniksudo aptitude install krusader19:11
JampiterOk, I'll give that a go19:12
Jampiterthanks :)19:12
veniknp19:12
venikkrusader also has a nice built-in ftp client and fish client, and can be used to synchronize directories, even across the network19:13
JampiterCool19:14
frybye hi..Ihave following situation.. keyboard does not work all of a sudden under main account with hardy-kde4,1 - but works same pc with kde3 and with new account in kde4.1 - what too do?19:16
venikafter you install and run it, you can go to TOOLS/start Krusader as root, navigate to your file, select it and choose F4 (edit)19:17
venikI also had a LOT of problems with kde4.119:17
jaakkomefrybye, use kde 3 :]19:17
venikWhat helps is if you delete the /home/username/.kde4 folder19:17
joel_how can I save space on kubuntu???19:18
venikand then type cntrol-alt-backspace to restart X19:18
frybyewe had no prob until the k-board just stoppen working..only this (main) acct..?19:18
frybyejaakk..yeah but...19:18
venikfry-- delete .kde419:19
venikand reboot or restart the session19:19
frybyevenik.. ok will tr5y tomorrow.. in bed now with eeepc and gnome-...19:19
Darkhoundguys19:20
Darkhoundhow good support does kubuntu have for EPSON ALL in One devices?19:20
venikfry-- how good is eeepc with gnome?19:20
jaakkomeyou can also backup the .kde4 and move some stuff back after you get it to work, if you don't want to lose all your settings19:20
frybyeneeds q a bit of tweeks - fixes but then fine..19:21
frybyejaakkome: prolly better with all fresh.. hmm i am getting up too try this -hang on folks  ;=)19:23
jaakkomeI've had to do that quite a few times with kde 4...19:23
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Darkhoundguys19:27
Darkhoundi am having an issue with kontact19:27
Darkhoundit says that i am not the organizer of the event19:27
Darkhoundis anyone here?19:35
venikyes19:35
venikI do not use kontact-- I use thunderbird with Lightning19:36
lexcan i set up kontact to recieve mail from hotmail, gmail and yahoo???19:37
lexor some other mail client?19:37
venikdon't know-- I only use Thunderbird19:38
lexcan thunderbird be set up to recieve those mails?19:38
joel_who's running gkrellm19:39
joel_?19:39
venikYes, I believe that TB can receive mail from all of those19:39
veniku simply have to add an account with the setting for that mail source19:40
joel_talking about receiving emails, did anyone set up their email with gkrellm??19:40
lexthanx venik19:40
blackdeagleHi, I can't use cmake. Following Error: CMake Error: your CXX compiler: "CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER-NOTFOUND" was not found.   Please set19:41
WhiteSkullhi to all19:41
blackdeagleCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to a valid compiler path or name.19:41
blackdeaglewhat can i do?19:41
Darkhoundguys.. my icons next to the clock used to be arranged in 2 rows.. now they are all in one19:42
Darkhoundany reson for htat?19:42
RurouniJonesblackdeagle:  Make sure you have g++ or gcc package installed19:48
blackdeagleRurouniJones: alright, g++ wasn't installed .. thank you very much19:50
blackdeagleit works =)19:50
RurouniJonesnp19:51
gzipperhi guys. Im installing packages from Synaptic but it keeps crashing on me when the packages are 100% installed but it doesnt seem to exit. The upate box just doesnt close.19:52
BraveSpear!kmenu19:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kmenu19:55
JampiterCan someone give me the name of the package to make GTK widgets look like QT ones in KDE4? Thanks19:55
JampiterI have that too gzipper19:56
JampiterI just kill the process19:56
gzipperhmm. it annoys me though19:56
BraveSpearDoes anyone know how to copy the kmenu settings from one computer to another?19:56
BraveSpearThere has got to be a way to do it now.. I think it is the file ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu.  I am trying to create a custom KMenu and place it in /etc/skel/.config/menus/ dir on a livecd that I have remastered.  Not going as easily as it should, though.19:57
hvralphahas anybody tested network manager in 4.1.120:04
hvralphait just does not work on a notebook20:05
Assurbanipalhi guys, in all of a sudden i got "segmentation faulty tree" error and cannot enter kde.... what is that??!?20:13
emlIs it allowed to ask questions about backports in here?20:15
pimhey I want to overwrite some files on a memorystick, within the gui, how do I do this? my kubi insists on me renaming the file20:19
Assurbanipalhi guys, in all of a sudden i got "segmentation faulty tree" error and cannot enter kde.... what is that??!?can someone help???20:27
[ifrog]!find pureperl20:27
ubottuFound: libogg-vorbis-header-pureperl-perl20:28
JampiterHow do you find the physical MAC address of a computer in Kubuntu?20:29
PiciJampiter: ifconfig20:30
PiciJampiter: In the HWaddr field20:30
JampiterIs that it?20:30
JampiterOk20:30
JampiterThanks :)20:30
[ifrog]!find Geo::IP::PurePerl20:33
ubottuFile Geo::IP::PurePerl found in Use, of, uninitialized, value, in (and 32 others)20:33
[ifrog]!find PurePerl20:34
ubottuFound: libogg-vorbis-header-pureperl-perl20:34
pim!files20:34
ubottuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview20:34
JampiterWhichh Hwadder field?20:35
MarcoBXBRO1where do you set the kubuntu 4.1.1 in the login manager20:35
stdinJampiter: when you do "ifconfig" it'll list all the network devices, and it will show a line like "Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX" for each device20:36
JampiterThanks :)20:38
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metehantürk varmı?20:57
metehananyone can help me?20:58
metehanim the new user on kubuntu20:58
metehanhow can i install firefox 320:58
jaakkomemetehan, with Adept Manager20:59
CoJaBo-Eeemetehan: I think its Adept Manager, thats what I used20:59
metehanok im looking20:59
metehanwaowww21:01
metehanits so easy21:01
metehanok so how can i play world of warcraft on kubuntu21:01
jaakkomewith wine21:02
CoJaBo-EeeInstalling stuff is so cool now lol21:02
metehanso i have a network and i download another computer on windows on my wow folder21:03
metehanhow can i do that?21:03
jaakkomeif the folder is shared on the windows machine, you can access it through system menu > remote places > samba shares21:04
metehanim checking21:06
jaakkomealthough I think you need to reinstall the game from cd:s under wine to get it working21:07
joel_metehan- learn the command line21:07
joel_things may be easier with adept but not as good21:07
metehanadept its working21:08
metehanfirefox installed and i using that21:08
metehanits reeally nice21:08
joel_I know, it'll work21:08
jaakkomeadept is good if it does what you need21:08
joel_but there's many things you'll have to do on the terminal21:08
joel_but adept is good!21:09
metehanhımm Knetwork manager not working!21:11
CoJaBo-EeeI had lots of problems with it :/21:12
jaakkomeHow's it not working? You seem to be able to connect to the Internet at least21:12
metehanno no imean i want the download wow to my notebook from my Pc21:13
CoJaBo-EeeMine refused to connect to my wireless, it works now but still takes a few tries before it connects.21:13
metehanhow can i get kde4.0?21:14
metehanimean where21:15
jaakkomeinstall kde4-desktop with adept21:15
CoJaBo-EeeThere were directions for upgrading to 4.1.1 on the kubuntu homepage.21:15
jaakkomemetehan, to get wow to work, you need to first install wine and then install wow from cd:s21:16
metehanok downloading now21:16
metehanok i get the wine21:16
Daisuke_Idoinstall kubuntu-kde4-desktop, and it's not 4.0 and hasn't been for some time21:17
metehancds ?21:17
Daisuke_Idoyeah, you know the little round shiny things music used to come on?21:17
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Daisuke_Idometehan: what graphics chipset does the laptop have?21:18
metehani have compaq nx 7300 i think its not good21:18
Daisuke_Idographics chipset, not the model of the laptop.21:19
metehanintel 945 -is81021:20
Daisuke_Idoyeah, i wouldn't expect to play WoW on that.21:20
metehanintel 945 i 81021:20
Resistolmy kubuntu cds wont install or "run without installing" after boot - both the 7.10 version and the kde 4.1 versions hang at "loading kernel" then say they can't read the boot cd and ask me to reboot... help!21:20
metehancome on in win xp i play the wow normal with raid group hyjall :D21:21
Daisuke_Idothis.  isn't.  windows.21:22
Daisuke_Idoyou're free to try21:22
metehanok21:22
Daisuke_Idobut it doesn't work on a core 2 duo 2.0ghz with 2gb ram and intel 96521:22
Daisuke_Idoi know, i've tried.  several times.21:22
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Daisuke_Idodefinitely give it a shot21:23
Daisuke_Ido!pm | metehan21:25
ubottumetehan: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.21:25
metehanwhat the...21:26
metehanso icant play wow beacuse i install the kubuntu ?21:26
Ubuntu392944Does Kubuntu have a utility to configure the system?21:29
metehanok now i install the wow21:32
metehanagain!21:32
metehanits some patchs download and its kill meeee21:33
ResistolKubuntu live cd gets to the first menu, but when I try to install or "try it without installing", it gets stuck at 13% loading kernel... then says it can't read the cd (i've tried 3 cds that i know work) and asks me to reboot...  plz help21:33
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Ubuntu392944Resistol: For some reason I had the same problem, it would stop for a minute then said it could read media and ask to reboot. I checked the image checksum and everything was okay, all I could do was burn on a different CDRW and it finally worked21:35
Xulualguien habla español ¿?¿?21:36
XuluHola a todos desde Argentina21:36
Githzeraies! |Xulu21:37
ResistolUbuntu392944, I tried burning with Nero, then with magicISO, using two different kubuntu versions21:37
ResistolI only have 1 cd burner though21:37
CoJaBo-EeeResistol: Make sure that the CD image you are burning isn't bad, that happened to me once.21:37
ResistolIs there any way to crc check the iso from windows?21:38
ofvResistol: if you want to check the md5 sum of an ISO image file, there are tools on Windows for that.21:39
Githzerai!es | Xulu21:39
ubottuXulu: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:39
penlosthello i cannot see videos in you tube, i can play them fine and get sound but not see em21:40
CoJaBo-Eeepenlost: Make sure the volume on the youtube player isn't muted/all the way down.21:40
penlostty coja, but i can hear them fine but cannot see them, the box is black21:41
ofvResistol: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ Look for md5sum21:41
Ubuntu392944Resistol: Did you try with different brand media? Ive never had a problem with the Sony ones I was using, I burned Backtrack, TinyMe, Ubuntu, PCLinuxOS and others and only Kubuntu ISO gave me problems, I tried a few different ones and it finally worked (none of the disc are scratched they are brand new). Not sure why it was so problematic21:41
ofvHello. I have a problem with KDE shutdown.21:42
ofvafter pressing the logout or reboot buttons on KDE, the screen goes blank and there is no more activity.21:43
ofvany hints?21:43
Carla1989Hello. Is there a channel for erc (emacs based IRC) support?21:44
jaakkomeofv, I have a similiar problem on my laptop. My problem is connected to the proprietary ati drivers21:45
ofvjaakkome: bingo! I have the propietary ati drivers too.21:45
penlosti have tried downloading and  installing flash but it did not help21:46
jaakkomeIf it is the same problem, I don't think there's much you can do about it21:46
ofvCarla1989: take a look at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsIRCClient21:46
ForgeAuswow Google Android is based on Linux :)21:47
ofvHow do you life with it? The only "solution" for me is pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del21:47
ForgeAusodd that they have webkit libraries there but havn't made a gui for Chrome on Linux yet!21:47
ofvCarla1989: there is a mailing list, but not an irc channel. Try on #emacs.21:47
Carla1989tks ofv.21:48
ForgeAusI think they're still trying to figure what to use for it (ie gtk, custom or something else)21:48
jaakkomewell, it's a laptop with a busted battery, so I just shut down every time I have to move it anyways :]21:48
ForgeAuswhatever the case I doubt there'll be a ChromeQT .... but you never know...21:48
jaakkomebut you should try a different video driver to confirm that it's the same problem at least21:49
ForgeAushehe if Google make a custom toolkit would that make them Widgles? or Goodgets?21:49
ofvThis started after installing the ATI propietary driver, so it seems the culprit.21:49
jaakkomewell it was filed as a known bug against the drivers and I haven't heard of a workaround... damn ati21:50
ofvjaakkome: do you remember the bug id?21:51
jaakkomeno, been a while since I looked at that21:52
ofvjaakkome: okay, thanks anyways.21:52
Ubuntu392944Does Kubuntu not have a central configuration center like other distros, except for the "System Settings" icon?21:54
ForgeAusiit still has kcontrol21:55
ForgeAusalthough system settings is kinda like a kcontrol wrapper provides lots of kcontrol modules and/or custom ones, etc...21:56
Ubuntu392944I guess kcontrol is somewhat useful21:57
ForgeAusis there something else you were referring to?21:58
ForgeAuswhat exactly was it you were looking to configure?21:58
Ubuntu392944ForgeAus: I have a previous linux distro installed, and I want Kubuntu to mount that drives /home as my default /home, im trying to do this possibly thru "Disk & Filesystems" using kcontrol now21:59
ForgeAusI think thats in the Admin section of system-settings too btw :)22:00
twylighthey, how do I get MP3 support on 6.04?22:02
ForgeAus!codecs22:02
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:02
twylightthanks22:02
twylight!thanks22:03
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ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)22:03
DrXanyone know of a good FREE cross platform (lin&win) email client that, unlike Thunderbird, has no database size limit, or at least a larger than 6GB limit?22:03
ForgeAus!botsnack22:03
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!22:03
ForgeAuscross platform... uh no22:03
ForgeAusaside from kmail22:03
ForgeAusand/or pretty much the entire kdepim suite22:04
DrXkmail?22:04
ForgeAusas to a size limit of the Database I have no idea22:04
DrXdoes that run on Windows?22:04
fritzhi folks, i had a problem few times ago about virtualbox and network, i solved all problems about all bridging, network managing, name resolving, etc. the point i always missed was the Firewall! now it's also set. love you bots. thanks for all..22:04
ForgeAusyes kmail... if its in kde4win then yes22:04
DrXoh, yeah, Thunderbird has a nasty 4.81G db size limit (at least on win)22:04
DrXdoes that mean I have to run a desktop environment in Windows to run kmail?22:05
szakulecI'm having trouble sharing folders- it fails when I right click and choose share; when I click details, it tells me to make sure fileshareset is setuid root, which as far as I can tell, it is22:08
metehanok i get the wow but and i try a few times with wine but its doesnt work ,and my desktop getting smaller every time22:10
metehanis there anyone can help?22:11
Darkhoundguys.. the icons on my system tray, next to the clock used to be in 2 rows.. and now are in just one. is there a way to change that to 2 rows22:14
d0wnis there a way to install apps from the ubuntu cd, for when you're not connected to the internet?22:18
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IppatsuMan!aptoncd | d0wn22:19
ubottud0wn: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers22:19
JampiterCan someone tell me what the package to display GTK windows with QT widgets in KDE4 is called? Thanks22:19
twylight!nothing22:19
ubottuSaying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.22:19
IppatsuManjaakkome: gtk-qt-engine22:20
IppatsuManwops22:20
JampiterThanks :)22:20
IppatsuManJampiter: gtk-qt-engine or gtk-qt-engine-kde4 if you use KDE422:20
JampiterThanks :)22:20
d0wnIppatsuMan: do you know of a way to do it via CLI?22:20
IppatsuManyou're welcome :)22:20
d0wnall I need to do is install OpenSSH-server22:21
d0wnwhich is already on the CD, somewhere22:21
JampiterWill I have to restart programs after that?22:22
Darkhoundanyone?22:24
ago_!list22:26
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots22:26
stdind0wn: insert the CD and run "sudo apt-cdrom add && sudo apt-get update"22:26
ago_ciao22:26
stdinthat will add the CD to the sources.list22:26
IppatsuMan!it | ago_22:26
ubottuago_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)22:26
favafroDarkhound: tried adjusting the height? - right click on the panel - configure panel22:27
Darkhoundi will try that thanks22:28
twylight!botabuse22:29
ubottuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubottu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.22:29
DarkhoundThank you22:30
d0wnstdin: sorry, I manually added the cdrom to the sources.list. i forgot to check in there first :P22:31
d0wnstdin: thanks though for helping :P22:31
twylightI'm doing a complete update22:36
twylightoutdated version + apt-get upgrade + time = why did I do that?!22:36
twylightCHEESE22:39
venikHas ANYONE succeeded in sharing a printer connected to a Kubuntu 8.04 machine from an XP machine?  I am using CUPS, and when I check the box to share the printers, it asks for username and password, but it keep asking for them repeatedly22:41
venikif the Web interface to CUPS is broken (or restricted by default), how can I share printers?22:42
venikdon't all try to help at once.... one at a time, please22:43
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twylighthello22:50
jorge__HELLO22:50
twylightdpkg is borked22:50
troy_orly?22:50
jorge__I MEXICO AND YOU22:50
Bauldvenik: show us your smb.conf22:51
twylighthow do I repair apt-get when it refers to error code (1)22:51
venikit is minimal:22:51
venik[global]22:51
venik   workgroup = MSHOME22:52
Bauldpastebin it mind22:52
venik   server string = udi-kubuntu22:52
venik   security = share22:52
venik[Word-L]22:52
venikpath = /home/udi/Desktop/Word-L22:52
Bauldsorry...22:52
venikavailable = yes22:52
venikbrowsable = yes22:52
venikpublic = yes22:52
venikwritable = yes22:52
venikguest ok = yes22:52
venikcreate mask = 077722:52
venikdirectory mask = 077722:52
twylight!dpkg22:53
ubottudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.22:53
twylight!broken22:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about broken22:53
twylighthaha22:53
twylight!doesntwork22:53
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.22:53
venikI was hoping that CUPS will modify smb.conf for me through the web interface, since they removed the printers sections from the System Setup, but it seems to be turned off in HH22:53
venikBauld, do u see anything exciting in my smb.conf?22:54
venikI know that there is no printers section there, but see my note above22:55
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Bauldno, but then I don't know much - you can't change/control it from 127.0.0.122:59
Bauld:63122:59
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venikapparently, as part of PROGRESS, what we could do in GG is verbotten in HH23:00
BauldI killed my pc with II23:02
twylightwhat.23:09
twylightthe.23:09
twylightcrap.23:09
RurouniJonestwylight: It is traditional to actually ask a question23:11
twylightas aware of that as I am, I don't have a question to ask at the moment23:11
* twylight growls 23:12
twylightthis is aggrivating23:12
twylightI'm trying to enable MP3 support23:13
twylightand encountering,, that's right, AN IMPOSSIBLE PROBLEM23:13
twylightlibxine-extracodecs is not available to be installed23:13
Deniseimpossible probelm23:15
twylight!impossible23:15
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about impossible23:15
Denisewhat is it then23:16
Githzeraitwylight: lbxine1-ffmpeg23:16
Darkhoundguys23:16
Darkhoundquestion23:16
Darkhoundwhen i have a file on the deskop23:16
Darkhoundand i "cut it" to paste it elsehwere... it says "grayed out"23:17
Darkhoundon my desktop23:17
twylightI'm going to try removing amarok and reinstalling it23:18
twylighthopefully I don't break anything23:18
twylighthow do I clear a package that didn't install properly?23:19
forexsHey guys23:20
Deniseapt-get remove23:20
Darkhoundany one?23:20
Deniseand apt-get purge23:20
forexsDoes anyone know what the default mount point for ntfs partitions (autodetected) is?23:22
favafroDarkhound: it'll stay there until you paste it afaik23:22
forexs(it doesn't appear in 'mount')23:23
Darkhoundi already did23:28
Darkhoundand it it still garyed out23:28
favafroDarkhound: browse to your home foder and open the desktop folder - what's in it?23:34
Darkhoundi see it there23:34
Darkhoundmy picture23:34
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Guest93682#bookz23:35
favafroDarkhound: try to delete it from there if it copied ok23:35
Darkhoundit copied all right23:35
Darkhoundmy question is why doesit stil remain there23:35
Darkhoundok i see what happens23:37
Darkhoundevery time i "cut" anything drom the desktop23:38
Darkhoundit stays there.. why23:38
favafroDarkhound: I don't use the desktop as a storage area but is the file still in trask ?23:39
favafro*trash23:39
HaSH!songbird23:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about songbird23:40
favafro!info songbird23:41
ubottuPackage songbird does not exist in hardy23:41
Darkhoundit is deleted23:41
favafro!find songbird23:42
Darkhoundbut i dont think that is the proper function of "cut"23:42
ubottuFile songbird found in Use, of, uninitialized, value, in (and 32 others)23:42
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favafroDarkhound: or it might have something to do with how the desktop functions23:43
Darkhoundiguess23:45
twylightlol wut23:45
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twylightstill working on the MP3 capability23:54
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RiddellKubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 5 minutes23:55
Daisuke_Idolimited attendance?23:58
Daisuke_Idoor open to the public?23:58
twylightopen to the public, it seems23:59

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