kgoetz | hi all. | 02:43 |
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asac | Jazzva: i got a fail to build mail about foxyproxy? | 10:57 |
asac | whats going on? | 10:57 |
asac | didnt that ever build? | 10:58 |
asac | and nobody complained? | 10:58 |
asac | debian bug 497491 | 11:03 |
ubottu | Debian bug 497491 in icedove "icedove: Icedove inappropriately sets file-/MIME-type associations in .desktop database" [Critical,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/497491 | 11:03 |
Jazzva | asac, I think we talked about that a month ago. It failed back then too, and I think that you pushed 2.7.5-0ubuntu2 | 13:03 |
Jazzva | I'll check if you did | 13:03 |
Jazzva | asac, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/firefox-extensions/foxyproxy.ubuntu/+merge/586 | 13:05 |
Jazzva | Hmm, I thought that you merged that :) | 13:05 |
Jazzva | hmm, you did | 13:06 |
Jazzva | asac, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/foxyproxy.ubuntu | 13:06 |
Jazzva | By Alexander Sack on 2008-07-29 * RELEASE 2.7.5-0ubuntu2 to ubuntu/intrepid | 13:06 |
asac | Jazzva: hmm | 13:17 |
asac | Jazzva: maybe it was just late coming mail then? | 13:17 |
asac | (it was about ubuntu1) | 13:17 |
Jazzva | Maybe | 13:17 |
asac | Jazzva: oh | 13:18 |
asac | ubuntu2 wasnt uploaded ;) | 13:18 |
Jazzva | but then again, -0ubuntu2 isn't showing | 13:18 |
Jazzva | ah :) | 13:18 |
Volans | back | 13:18 |
Jazzva | Volans, welcome back | 13:19 |
Volans | Hi Jazzva :) | 13:20 |
Jazzva | asac, when will abrowser be included in ubuntu? Jaunty? Or Intrepid? | 13:22 |
asac | Jazzva: uploaded | 13:22 |
asac | Jazzva: next upload | 13:22 |
Jazzva | asac, thanks :) | 13:22 |
asac | all is done in the branch. i just need to rename everything to abrowser now :) | 13:23 |
asac | Jazzva: ok abrowser-brnading uploaded to mt archive | 13:32 |
asac | hmm without orig ;) | 13:32 |
Jazzva | heh :)... off to get smokes | 13:33 |
asac | ok reuploding | 13:33 |
asac | hmm ... the orig was already there as it seems | 13:36 |
asac | anyway ... should be building now | 13:36 |
* asac preparing for lunch | 13:37 | |
asac | Jazzva: ok the i386 build finished for intrepid | 13:41 |
asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive | 13:41 |
asac | could you test whether it works nicely for you? | 13:41 |
asac | the idea is to install abrowser -> you get the abrowser branding | 13:41 |
asac | if you then install "firefox" .... you ge tthe firefox brandin | 13:41 |
asac | if you have firefox installed and just upgrade you should still have firefox branding | 13:42 |
Jazzva | asac, ok | 13:54 |
Jazzva | so, to remove firefox and get abrowser? | 13:54 |
asac | Jazzva: just install apt-get install abrowser | 13:54 |
asac | that hsould do the trick | 13:54 |
Jazzva | asac, abrowser is not showing in mt ppa... | 13:59 |
Jazzva | ah, it's in firefox-3.0 | 14:05 |
Jazzva | ok, it's here now... when I was updating sources, it fetched the old list | 14:07 |
Jazzva | asac, seems the menu entry for A Browser is wrong | 14:10 |
Jazzva | it says it can't run webbrowser command | 14:10 |
Jazzva | maybe it should be abrowser? :) | 14:10 |
armin76 | @time | 14:11 |
ubottu | Current time in Etc/UTC: September 11 2008, 13:11:30 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Java in 48 minutes | 14:11 |
Jazzva | asac, menu entry says "A Browser"... title bar says "Web Browser" | 14:11 |
asac | Jazzva: right. makes sense | 14:35 |
asac | Jazzva: icons ? | 14:36 |
Jazzva | icons are ok | 14:36 |
Jazzva | neonish light-blue glob | 14:36 |
Jazzva | *globe | 14:36 |
Jazzva | though, it uses the mozilla globe when you go to help -> about -> credits | 14:36 |
Jazzva | and, afaics, the rest of the icons are taken from gnome theme. | 14:37 |
Jazzva | ok, lunch. see you later | 14:40 |
Jazzva | back | 15:08 |
asac | Jazzva: ok. the .desktop thing is still broken | 15:30 |
asac | e.g the menu | 15:30 |
Jazzva | asac, why don't you just change the call to abrowser? | 15:30 |
Jazzva | :) | 15:30 |
asac | Jazzva: in .destkop? | 15:32 |
asac | thats the idea | 15:32 |
Jazzva | mhm | 15:32 |
asac | its just that i forgot it | 15:32 |
Jazzva | ok, that's what I did locally | 15:32 |
Jazzva | oh, ok :) | 15:32 |
asac | Jazzva: ok committed and uploaded a new version to ppa | 15:34 |
Jazzva | yay :) | 15:34 |
Jazzva | I'll upgrade it, once it's built | 15:34 |
asac | Jazzva: have you tried to switch back and forward? | 15:35 |
asac | e.g. install firefox, then install abrowser? | 15:35 |
Jazzva | well, I had firefox, then installed abrowser | 15:35 |
Jazzva | Now I have it it, and firefox is missing | 15:35 |
Jazzva | :) | 15:35 |
Jazzva | I mean, it's menu entyr | 15:35 |
Jazzva | *entry | 15:35 |
asac | yes | 15:36 |
asac | thats expected | 15:36 |
asac | you should have A Browser in the menu ;) | 15:36 |
Jazzva | I have it :) | 15:37 |
asac | this is strange. i use the same .desktop file name for both | 15:37 |
asac | but still when i put the menuentry into the gnome panel | 15:37 |
asac | it doesnt change | 15:37 |
asac | it sticks to whatever pic and command was used in the old thing | 15:38 |
Jazzva | it doesn't? | 15:38 |
Jazzva | well, it changed for me | 15:38 |
asac | no. | 15:38 |
Jazzva | from Fx -> A Browser | 15:38 |
asac | Jazzva: the menu entry or a quick starter? | 15:38 |
Jazzva | menu entry | 15:38 |
asac | Jazzva: yes that works | 15:38 |
asac | but the quick start icon in the panel doesnt | 15:38 |
Jazzva | hmm | 15:38 |
Jazzva | maybe it needs to be reloaded | 15:38 |
Jazzva | killall gnome-panel | 15:38 |
Jazzva | and let's see what will happen | 15:38 |
Jazzva | :) | 15:38 |
asac | indeed | 15:39 |
asac | thanks | 15:39 |
Jazzva | hmm | 15:39 |
asac | Jazzva: ok so in .postinst -> killall gnome-panel ;) | 15:39 |
Jazzva | it has a different icon (the A Browser's globe) | 15:39 |
Jazzva | but the title still says Firefox Web Browser | 15:39 |
asac | it does? | 15:39 |
Jazzva | maybe I manually added it... | 15:39 |
Jazzva | I mean, the title | 15:40 |
asac | Jazzva: if you manually modify it it will stick | 15:40 |
asac | maybe dump it and create a new fresh one | 15:40 |
Jazzva | right... that's probably why it didn't change | 15:40 |
asac | by dragging from menu or something | 15:40 |
Jazzva | yeah.. I'll do that, when I go back to firefox, to see if it will change when I switch to a-browser | 15:40 |
asac | good thing about the name is that it will appear on top of the menu ;) | 15:42 |
asac | err at the top ;) | 15:42 |
Jazzva | yep :) | 15:42 |
asac | Jazzva: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45821/ | 15:44 |
Jazzva | switching to firefox, just a sec ;) | 15:45 |
asac | i wonder if korean folks will feel offended ;) | 15:45 |
Jazzva | oh, yay... my gnome-panel is not reloading :) | 15:46 |
asac | Jazzva: for me the first time it took a long time | 15:48 |
asac | but then became snappy ;) | 15:48 |
Jazzva | asac, I don't really know korean | 15:48 |
Jazzva | why would they be offended? :) | 15:48 |
asac | becuase i just added a "A " in front of whatever i think means "Web Browser" | 15:49 |
Jazzva | aha :) | 15:49 |
Jazzva | noticed | 15:49 |
* asac goes to New bugs processing for NM :( | 15:51 | |
Jazzva | asac, what's the current version of abrowser? | 15:51 |
Jazzva | 0ubuntu2~mt1? | 15:51 |
Jazzva | nope, ~mt2 | 15:52 |
asac | Jazzva: mt2 | 15:54 |
asac | yes | 15:54 |
Jazzva | oh, great. now I'm left without the terminal and gnome panel... | 15:57 |
Jazzva | ok, panel is back :) | 15:59 |
* armin76 waves to panel | 16:07 | |
asac | armin76: killall gnome-panel | 16:07 |
=== asac_ is now known as asac | ||
Jazzva | asac, how about using strict versioning in debian/control for abrowser and abrowser-3.0-branding | 17:26 |
Jazzva | ? | 17:26 |
Jazzva | I just upgraded abrowser, but it didn't upgrade abrowser-3.0-branding | 17:27 |
Jazzva | hmm... it seems it doesn't update the quick start icon | 17:33 |
Jazzva | I deleted the old one, and put a new one, that I dragged from the menu | 17:33 |
asac | bug #260055 | 17:33 |
ubottu | Bug 260055 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/260055 is private | 17:33 |
asac | hmm | 17:33 |
asac | Jazzva: huh? | 17:34 |
Jazzva | installed abrowser after that, killed gnome panel, restarted it, the icon changed, but it still says Firefox Web Browser | 17:34 |
asac | Jazzva: why didnt it upgrade -branding? | 17:34 |
Jazzva | dunno... | 17:34 |
asac | anyway .. its uploaded ;) | 17:34 |
Jazzva | I did apt-get install abrowser, and it downloaded it | 17:34 |
Jazzva | and after that a-g install abrowser-3.0-branding | 17:34 |
asac | let me check i the binaries are built | 17:34 |
asac | (they are NEW) | 17:34 |
Jazzva | that's ~mt2? | 17:35 |
asac | Jazzva: no its bumped | 17:36 |
Jazzva | ok | 17:36 |
asac | Jazzva: ok. pitti will proces them tomorrow | 17:39 |
Jazzva | ok | 17:39 |
asac | Jazzva: you sure -branding doesnt upgrade to mt2 for you? | 17:39 |
Jazzva | asac, I did it manually | 17:43 |
Jazzva | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/45847/ | 17:44 |
Jazzva | that's the output | 17:44 |
pmatulis | asac: hi again, so the FF3/NFS issue is back on the table. please advise | 18:25 |
asac | Jazzva: ok. thats ok. i thought it didnt upgrade when running "upgrade" | 19:16 |
asac | pmatulis: are you in the state where you cannot connect to the places.sqlite DB? | 19:16 |
Jazzva | asac, oh... ok | 19:19 |
Jazzva | asac, wouldn't it be safer with strict versioning :)? | 19:20 |
asac | Jazzva: there is no risk ;) | 19:20 |
Jazzva | asac, ok | 19:20 |
asac | so it cant be safer ;) | 19:20 |
asac | mbrowser is just a meta package with nothing in it | 19:20 |
asac | abrowser ;) | 19:20 |
Jazzva | ah | 19:20 |
pmatulis | asac: from a working system (as well as a broken one) the .tables command shows 'database is locked'. do you have a specific test for me? | 19:23 |
asac | pmatulis: so it isnt different on a broken and working system? | 19:23 |
pmatulis | asac: that's right | 19:24 |
asac | (both when browser is closed) | 19:24 |
pmatulis | asac: one sec | 19:24 |
asac | pmatulis: it should be reasonable that the database is locked when browser is running | 19:24 |
asac | what would be a problem is when database is locked while browser isnt running | 19:24 |
pmatulis | asac: right | 19:24 |
asac | which i understood is the case for nfs cold boot | 19:24 |
asac | is that really the case? | 19:24 |
pmatulis | asac: locked on broken | 19:25 |
Lns | asac: how goes it? | 19:25 |
asac | pmatulis: locked=logged? | 19:25 |
asac | Lns: if someone asks like this i always have the feeling that it wont get better ;) | 19:25 |
pmatulis | asac: on working it does not connect ('encrypted or not a database') | 19:25 |
asac | pmatulis: ok. thats when browser is not running? | 19:26 |
pmatulis | asac: on broken, i connect but the .tables command gives 'database is locked' | 19:26 |
pmatulis | asac: yes, not running | 19:26 |
Lns | asac: lol... just checking in with you regarding what we discussed last week regarding Firefox 3.01 in Ubuntu/LTSP, and the slowness/lockup issues I've (and others) have been experiencing.. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453704 | 19:26 |
ubottu | Mozilla bug 453704 in General "Extreme slowness, "Firefox is already running" error for >3 users launching Firefox in LTSP environment" [Critical,Unconfirmed] | 19:26 |
asac | pmatulis: do you use sqlite3? i think i saw that "encrypted" error when trying sqlite (aka v2) | 19:26 |
pmatulis | asac: i'm on hardy, it's sqlite3 | 19:27 |
pmatulis | asac: but my broken system is intrepid | 19:27 |
asac | pmatulis: hardy also has sqlite (aka 2) | 19:27 |
pmatulis | asac: yes, just saw that | 19:28 |
asac | pmatulis: $ sqlite places.sqlite | 19:28 |
asac | Unable to open database "places.sqlite": file is encrypted or is not a database | 19:28 |
asac | asac@tinya:~/.mozilla/firefox/8bil8cfx.default$ sqlite3 places.sqlite | 19:28 |
asac | SQLite version 3.4.2 | 19:28 |
asac | pmatulis: so please try sqlite3 ;) | 19:28 |
pmatulis | asac: ah | 19:28 |
asac | Enter ".help" for instructions | 19:28 |
asac | sqlite> asac@tinya:~/.mozilla/firefox/8bil8cfx.default$ | 19:28 |
asac | pmatulis: ok. so i assume that the problem really is that its locked | 19:29 |
asac | on broken system ... but not on working system (when ffox is not running for both) | 19:29 |
pmatulis | asac: now with sqlite3 on both systems i get same output | 19:29 |
pmatulis | asac: no difference | 19:29 |
asac | pmatulis: what exactly? | 19:29 |
asac | "Datbase locked" ? | 19:30 |
pmatulis | asac: .tables command gives 10 tables (moz_anno_attributes, moz.....) | 19:30 |
asac | pmatulis: and are you positive that firefox is still broken now? | 19:31 |
pmatulis | asac: on broken, i lost all toolbar bookmarks and back/forward buttons | 19:32 |
asac | pmatulis: ok. but when stopping firefox, moving places.sqlite3 away and then back to that location and starting firefox again cures you? | 19:32 |
pmatulis | asac: stand by | 19:33 |
pmatulis | asac: yes | 19:33 |
asac | pmatulis: really? | 19:33 |
pmatulis | asac: yes | 19:33 |
asac | pmatulis: hmm. what i would find interesting is whether the size of that file changed | 19:34 |
asac | from before and after | 19:34 |
asac | but you probably cannot test that quickly? | 19:34 |
pmatulis | asac: stand by for cold boot and cure? | 19:34 |
asac | pmatulis: let me test something | 19:36 |
asac | hmm i managed to get the db into a "locked" state | 19:38 |
asac | but then i wanted to see if that reproduces it | 19:39 |
asac | but now i cant get that into that state anymore | 19:39 |
pmatulis | asac: nope, no change in file at all | 19:42 |
pmatulis | asac: but cure works again | 19:42 |
asac | pmatulis: good. | 19:43 |
asac | pmatulis: i am still thinking that its a lock causing this | 19:43 |
asac | which is done on a filesystem basis and moving back and forth resolves that | 19:43 |
asac | now i am trying to get my database in such a state ;) | 19:43 |
pmatulis | asac: pop up an nfs share! | 19:44 |
pmatulis | asac: i think my previous results became inconsistent b/c my nfs share wasn't set up properly (uid mapping problem) | 19:45 |
asac | pmatulis: well. for you the db isnt even locked? | 19:45 |
asac | (when using sqlite3)? | 19:45 |
pmatulis | asac: wasn't before, trying again | 19:45 |
pmatulis | asac: note that i still have to go through the profile locking barrier | 19:46 |
pmatulis | asac: by removing .parentlock and .lock | 19:46 |
pmatulis | asac: not even looking at that (not sure if it's related) | 19:46 |
* asac currently reading http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Storage#SQLite_Locking | 19:48 | |
asac | ah ok | 19:50 |
asac | so begin EXCLUSIVE; | 19:50 |
asac | in sqlite3 will put the db into a locked state | 19:50 |
pmatulis | asac: this time the DB is locked (?) | 19:51 |
asac | pmatulis: ok. but ffox isnt running? | 19:53 |
pmatulis | asac: correct | 19:56 |
asac | pmatulis: ok. now what we would need to know if there is a way to forcefully release a flock | 19:57 |
asac | which i think is on that file | 19:57 |
asac | (if you dont get "database locked" firefox probably adoesnt have an exclusive lock, but a shared one) | 19:57 |
pmatulis | asac: you want me to try something else? | 20:06 |
asac | pmatulis: i am out for 1h or so cu later | 20:42 |
pmatulis | asac: do you want me to open a bug for this or not? | 20:43 |
bdmurray | asac: around? | 22:43 |
asac | bdmurray: one sec | 22:45 |
asac | bdmurray: so... go ahead ;) | 22:46 |
bdmurray | bug 216354 looks like a dup of bug 204631 - I was planning on merging them | 22:47 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 216354 in firefox-3.0 "firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216354 | 22:47 |
ubottu | Bug 204631 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/204631 is private | 22:47 |
bdmurray | and making that one not private | 22:48 |
asac | bdmurray: yeah. also maybe remove the [] brackets around master | 22:49 |
asac | launchpad doesnt find MASTER if they are in brackets (anymore) | 22:49 |
bdmurray | that's really neat | 22:49 |
bdmurray | asac: where did you notice that search feature? | 22:58 |
asac | bdmurray: hmm. works better now | 22:58 |
asac | strange | 22:58 |
bdmurray | hmm, and I already changed it - oh well | 22:59 |
asac | bdmurray: not a problem :) ... as long as it shows up when searching for MASTER its fine imo | 23:01 |
bdmurray | asac: bug 216496 and bug 263749 also seem to be dups should the newer one be used as the master? | 23:03 |
ubottu | Bug 216496 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/216496 is private | 23:03 |
ubottu | Bug 263749 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/263749 is private | 23:03 |
asac | bdmurray: imo. there is no need to re-master bug-clusters :) | 23:04 |
asac | so keep the original main bug | 23:04 |
asac | if there is valuable info it might be worth pasting that into the main bug | 23:04 |
bdmurray | neither has any dups and the newer one is about the 8.10 package | 23:04 |
bdmurray | whoops, I guess the older one has one dupe | 23:05 |
asac | yeah. whatever bug has less dups becomes a child bug imo | 23:06 |
bdmurray | right, I'll just add the version from the 8.10 bug into the parent | 23:07 |
asac | bdmurray: is there any hint about how to reproduce them? | 23:09 |
asac | bdmurray: hmm | 23:10 |
asac | 263749 is a reall old bug | 23:10 |
asac | i mean a dupe of a old bug | 23:10 |
asac | look for gtk_style_realize | 23:10 |
bdmurray | in firefox maybe and not firefox-3.0 maybe? | 23:11 |
asac | bdmurray: yeah in firefox | 23:11 |
asac | oh dear | 23:12 |
asac | launchpad search again :) | 23:12 |
asac | bdmurray: 88011 | 23:13 |
asac | 88011 | 23:13 |
asac | 91054 | 23:13 |
asac | 114943 | 23:14 |
asac | 70875 | 23:14 |
asac | 74252 | 23:14 |
asac | hmm ... i am sure we had a master with 200+ dupes | 23:14 |
asac | where is it? | 23:14 |
bdmurray | maybe 72018? | 23:14 |
asac | bug 72018? | 23:15 |
asac | bug 72018 | 23:15 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 72018 in xulrunner-1.9 "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize] [@nsFilePicker::Show]" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 | 23:15 |
asac | ah yeah | 23:15 |
asac | bdmurray: ok (variant) | 23:15 |
asac | was the left over bug | 23:15 |
asac | which i set to "wont fix" | 23:15 |
asac | because i didnt get more dupes | 23:15 |
asac | bdmurray: so if the traces are similar we should reopen that one | 23:15 |
bdmurray | They look similar to me. | 23:18 |
asac | bdmurray: i dont mind | 23:18 |
asac | we can also make a new master for ffox 3 | 23:18 |
bdmurray | the dups talk about gtk_style_realize, gtk_style_attach and gtk_widget_set_style_internal which all match | 23:19 |
asac | tse | 23:20 |
asac | bdmurray: so which ffox 3 bugs are candidates for dupes? | 23:20 |
asac | oh got you | 23:20 |
bdmurray | bug 216496 and its dups | 23:21 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 216496 in firefox-3.0 "firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216496 | 23:21 |
asac | bdmurray: ok. i dont mind what you do with them | 23:22 |
asac | they are certainly confirmed | 23:22 |
asac | but i get the feeling that this is a whole class of crashes | 23:22 |
asac | and most likely its different to the one we had in ffox 2 | 23:22 |
asac | too bad that we have no clue how to repro | 23:24 |
asac | iirc, this crash class happens when there is a dangling window for an already freed widget | 23:25 |
asac | or was it the other way around | 23:25 |
asac | hmm | 23:25 |
Lns | asac: This isn't a dupe, but I was wondering if you had time to work on this bug with me: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453704 | 23:25 |
ubottu | Mozilla bug 453704 in General "Extreme slowness, "Firefox is already running" error for >3 users launching Firefox in LTSP environment" [Critical,Unconfirmed] | 23:25 |
asac | Lns: did you get feedback from ogra? | 23:25 |
Lns | asac: no i didn't, was he notified of it? | 23:26 |
asac | Lns: didnt i send you to him? | 23:26 |
Lns | asac: nope..you told me to catch up with you the next day re: it | 23:26 |
asac | yeah. ok | 23:27 |
Lns | and my wife had our baby that day...so...i wasn't too available until now | 23:27 |
asac | you should remember me earlier | 23:27 |
asac | he is again gone for today | 23:27 |
asac | ;) | 23:27 |
asac | Lns: ah ok | 23:27 |
Lns | heh.. ok =) so did you talk with him at all about it? | 23:27 |
asac | no | 23:27 |
asac | Lns: maybe ill remember when i see him chatting tomorrow | 23:27 |
asac | Lns: its easier to open a bug in launchpad | 23:27 |
asac | and subscribe him there i think | 23:27 |
Lns | I'll do that | 23:28 |
Lns | (open a bug) | 23:28 |
asac | do you have a bug? | 23:28 |
Lns | just in bugzilla | 23:28 |
asac | yes. subscribe me too | 23:28 |
asac | asac | 23:28 |
asac | and ogra | 23:28 |
Lns | ok, np | 23:28 |
* Lns didn't know you could subscribe other people | 23:28 | |
asac | that mail will end up in a high prio mailbox then | 23:28 |
asac | you can on the side there is an action | 23:28 |
asac | "subscribe someone else" | 23:28 |
Lns | nice. ok i'm on it. thanks =) | 23:28 |
asac | welcome | 23:29 |
asac | bdmurray: where is the latest bug graph for ffox 3? | 23:30 |
Lns | asac: i did sub to this bug, thinking it might be related..any thoughts? https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/229745 | 23:30 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 229745 in xulrunner-1.9 "after fix for #215728 - Committing to urlclassifier3.sqlite still causes excessive CPU usage and disk I/O (the 2nd)" [High,In progress] | 23:30 |
asac | Lns: well. thats still a problem and it causes IO | 23:32 |
asac | Lns: if you dont have a high IO load | 23:32 |
asac | then its not the problem most likely | 23:32 |
asac | or is that IO load you are seeing? | 23:32 |
Lns | asac: well i haven't checked IO, but 35 people jumping on FF at the same time would definitely cause blockage... | 23:33 |
Lns | well, the CPU definitely pegs out, even with just a few users jumping on | 23:33 |
asac | Lns: that problem doesnt start right on startup from what i know | 23:33 |
Lns | sitting idle will still cause single procs to consume 30-60% cpu | 23:33 |
asac | its something that gets worth over time | 23:33 |
Lns | ok | 23:33 |
Lns | maybe 2 separate things | 23:33 |
asac | worse ;) | 23:33 |
asac | Lns: for you disabling that malware thing helps? | 23:34 |
Lns | asac: I think it did help, but there are still issues. I did get some reports that after "a couple of minutes" firefox will launch - some after getting the "Firefox is already running" error and trying again | 23:35 |
Lns | It seems to have just made it a bit more bearable (but still not acceptable to wait 2-4 minutes for it to launch) | 23:35 |
asac | the firefox already running error sounds wierd | 23:36 |
asac | but i think i already said that | 23:36 |
asac | sounds more like a wierd X11 issue | 23:36 |
asac | at least if those are different unix-users with different home directories | 23:36 |
asac | Lns: anyway. i would suggest to open a new bug anyway. if its a dupe we can still merge it into another bug | 23:38 |
Lns | asac: ok, i'll do that. Yeah, I really thought it was weird too (the error). It really shouldn't be happening, as they are all different users w/different homedirs. | 23:40 |
asac | Lns: firefox looks for locks in profile dir | 23:41 |
asac | Lns: it also tries to contact a running X window | 23:41 |
asac | Lns: so if X desktops are somehow shared this might cause confusion | 23:41 |
Lns | asac: yeah, someone mentioned that in an LTSP list - check this out | 23:41 |
Lns | asac: http://pastebin.com/m7386054d | 23:43 |
asac | Lns: by coincident i looked at that locking code today | 23:46 |
Lns | ooo, fresh on the noggin ;) | 23:46 |
Lns | any ideas? | 23:47 |
Lns | I find it weird that it uses 127.0.0.1, which may or may not conflict with it looking at the server vs. thin-client | 23:47 |
Lns | depending on the code I guess | 23:47 |
asac | Lns: that symbolic link just allows users of the same profile to obtain a lock | 23:47 |
asac | on filesystems that dont have native locking support | 23:48 |
asac | Lns: can you look if .parentlock is also a symlink? | 23:48 |
Lns | I can see if i can find any on my own system, although i'm not experiencing this problem | 23:48 |
Lns | nope - -rw-r--r-- 1 jerickson jerickson 0 2008-09-10 14:28 .parentlock | 23:49 |
Lns | lrwxrwxrwx 1 jerickson jerickson 15 2008-09-10 14:28 lock -> 127.0.1.1:+3887 | 23:50 |
Lns | jerickson@Fibonacci:~/.mozilla/firefox/5rwscmny.default$ file lock | 23:50 |
Lns | lock: broken symbolic link to `127.0.1.1:+3887' | 23:50 |
asac | Lns: the link means: lock owned by process 3887 on host with IP 127.0.1.1 | 23:50 |
Lns | asac: oh ok. | 23:50 |
asac | as long as users use different home dirs (and thus profiles) this shouldnt cause any issues | 23:51 |
Lns | ok. Which they definitely do. | 23:51 |
asac | Lns: hmm. maybe that lock file is left over from last run? | 23:52 |
Lns | I'm wondering where I can trace the activity when users start up firefox - the "firefox" process isn't descriptive enough. | 23:52 |
Lns | asac: possibly.. i can't say for sure since i wasn't troubleshooting it myself, just got word from other techs. They really don't know a whole lot, and 9-13 year old students are the users. | 23:53 |
asac | Lns: ok. file the bug, get ogra subscribed who should know about other ltsp installs | 23:53 |
Lns | I could sweep all dirs of the locks, but that just seems like a hack, because if even if it happens only when firefox crashes after trying to launch after 2-4 minutes, ... | 23:53 |
Lns | ok | 23:54 |
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