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kgoetzhi all.02:43
asacJazzva: i got a fail to build mail about foxyproxy?10:57
asacwhats going on?10:57
asacdidnt that ever build?10:58
asacand nobody complained?10:58
asacdebian bug 49749111:03
ubottuDebian bug 497491 in icedove "icedove: Icedove inappropriately sets file-/MIME-type associations in .desktop database" [Critical,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/49749111:03
Jazzvaasac, I think we talked about that a month ago. It failed back then too, and I think that you pushed 2.7.5-0ubuntu213:03
JazzvaI'll check if you did13:03
Jazzvaasac, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/firefox-extensions/foxyproxy.ubuntu/+merge/58613:05
JazzvaHmm, I thought that you merged that :)13:05
Jazzvahmm, you did13:06
Jazzvaasac, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/foxyproxy.ubuntu13:06
Jazzva By  Alexander Sack  on 2008-07-29    * RELEASE 2.7.5-0ubuntu2 to ubuntu/intrepid13:06
asacJazzva: hmm13:17
asacJazzva: maybe it was just late coming mail then?13:17
asac(it was about ubuntu1)13:17
JazzvaMaybe13:17
asacJazzva: oh13:18
asacubuntu2 wasnt uploaded ;)13:18
Jazzvabut then again, -0ubuntu2 isn't showing13:18
Jazzvaah :)13:18
Volansback13:18
JazzvaVolans, welcome back13:19
VolansHi Jazzva :)13:20
Jazzvaasac, when will abrowser be included in ubuntu? Jaunty? Or Intrepid?13:22
asacJazzva: uploaded13:22
asacJazzva: next upload13:22
Jazzvaasac, thanks :)13:22
asacall is done in the branch. i just need to rename everything to abrowser now :)13:23
asacJazzva: ok abrowser-brnading uploaded to mt archive13:32
asachmm without orig ;)13:32
Jazzvaheh :)... off to get smokes13:33
asacok reuploding13:33
asachmm ... the orig was already there as it seems13:36
asacanyway ... should be building now13:36
* asac preparing for lunch13:37
asacJazzva: ok the i386 build finished for intrepid13:41
asachttps://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive13:41
asaccould you test whether it works nicely for you?13:41
asacthe idea is to install abrowser -> you get the abrowser branding13:41
asacif you then install "firefox" .... you ge tthe firefox brandin13:41
asacif you have firefox installed and just upgrade you should still have firefox branding13:42
Jazzvaasac, ok13:54
Jazzvaso, to remove firefox and get abrowser?13:54
asacJazzva: just install apt-get install abrowser13:54
asacthat hsould do the trick13:54
Jazzvaasac, abrowser is not showing in mt ppa...13:59
Jazzvaah, it's in firefox-3.014:05
Jazzvaok, it's here now... when I was updating sources, it fetched the old list14:07
Jazzvaasac, seems the menu entry for A Browser is wrong14:10
Jazzvait says it can't run webbrowser command14:10
Jazzvamaybe it should be abrowser? :)14:10
armin76@time14:11
ubottuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: September 11 2008, 13:11:30 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Java in 48 minutes14:11
Jazzvaasac, menu entry says "A Browser"... title bar says "Web Browser"14:11
asacJazzva: right. makes sense14:35
asacJazzva: icons ?14:36
Jazzvaicons are ok14:36
Jazzvaneonish light-blue glob14:36
Jazzva*globe14:36
Jazzvathough, it uses the mozilla globe when you go to help -> about -> credits14:36
Jazzvaand, afaics, the rest of the icons are taken from gnome theme.14:37
Jazzvaok, lunch. see you later14:40
Jazzvaback15:08
asacJazzva: ok. the .desktop thing is still broken15:30
asace.g the menu15:30
Jazzvaasac, why don't you just change the call to abrowser?15:30
Jazzva:)15:30
asacJazzva: in .destkop?15:32
asacthats the idea15:32
Jazzvamhm15:32
asacits just that i forgot it15:32
Jazzvaok, that's what I did locally15:32
Jazzvaoh, ok :)15:32
asacJazzva: ok committed and uploaded a new version to ppa15:34
Jazzvayay :)15:34
JazzvaI'll upgrade it, once it's built15:34
asacJazzva: have you tried to switch back and forward?15:35
asace.g. install firefox, then install abrowser?15:35
Jazzvawell, I had firefox, then installed abrowser15:35
JazzvaNow I have it it, and firefox is missing15:35
Jazzva:)15:35
JazzvaI mean, it's menu entyr15:35
Jazzva*entry15:35
asacyes15:36
asacthats expected15:36
asacyou should have A Browser in the menu ;)15:36
JazzvaI have it :)15:37
asacthis is strange. i use the same .desktop file name for both15:37
asacbut still when i put the menuentry into the gnome panel15:37
asacit doesnt change15:37
asacit sticks to whatever pic and command was used in the old thing15:38
Jazzvait doesn't?15:38
Jazzvawell, it changed for me15:38
asacno.15:38
Jazzvafrom Fx -> A Browser15:38
asacJazzva: the menu entry or a quick starter?15:38
Jazzvamenu entry15:38
asacJazzva: yes that works15:38
asacbut the quick start icon in the panel doesnt15:38
Jazzvahmm15:38
Jazzvamaybe it needs to be reloaded15:38
Jazzvakillall gnome-panel15:38
Jazzvaand let's see what will happen15:38
Jazzva:)15:38
asacindeed15:39
asacthanks15:39
Jazzvahmm15:39
asacJazzva: ok so in .postinst -> killall gnome-panel ;)15:39
Jazzvait has a different icon (the A Browser's globe)15:39
Jazzvabut the title still says Firefox Web Browser15:39
asacit does?15:39
Jazzvamaybe I manually added it...15:39
JazzvaI mean, the title15:40
asacJazzva: if you manually modify it it will stick15:40
asacmaybe dump it and create a new fresh one15:40
Jazzvaright... that's probably why it didn't change15:40
asacby dragging from menu or something15:40
Jazzvayeah.. I'll do that, when I go back to firefox, to see if it will change when I switch to a-browser15:40
asacgood thing about the name is that it will appear on top of the menu ;)15:42
asacerr at the top ;)15:42
Jazzvayep :)15:42
asacJazzva: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45821/15:44
Jazzvaswitching to firefox, just a sec ;)15:45
asaci wonder if korean folks will feel offended ;)15:45
Jazzvaoh, yay... my gnome-panel is not reloading :)15:46
asacJazzva: for me the first time it took a long time15:48
asacbut then became snappy ;)15:48
Jazzvaasac, I don't really know korean15:48
Jazzvawhy would they be offended? :)15:48
asacbecuase i just added a "A " in front of whatever i think means "Web Browser"15:49
Jazzvaaha :)15:49
Jazzvanoticed15:49
* asac goes to New bugs processing for NM :(15:51
Jazzvaasac, what's the current version of abrowser?15:51
Jazzva0ubuntu2~mt1?15:51
Jazzvanope, ~mt215:52
asacJazzva: mt215:54
asacyes15:54
Jazzvaoh, great. now I'm left without the terminal and gnome panel...15:57
Jazzvaok, panel is back :)15:59
* armin76 waves to panel16:07
asacarmin76: killall gnome-panel16:07
=== asac_ is now known as asac
Jazzvaasac, how about using strict versioning in debian/control for abrowser and abrowser-3.0-branding17:26
Jazzva?17:26
JazzvaI just upgraded abrowser, but it didn't upgrade abrowser-3.0-branding17:27
Jazzvahmm... it seems it doesn't update the quick start icon17:33
JazzvaI deleted the old one, and put a new one, that I dragged from the menu17:33
asacbug #26005517:33
ubottuBug 260055 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/260055 is private17:33
asachmm17:33
asacJazzva: huh?17:34
Jazzvainstalled abrowser after that, killed gnome panel, restarted it, the icon changed, but it still says Firefox Web Browser17:34
asacJazzva: why didnt it upgrade -branding?17:34
Jazzvadunno...17:34
asacanyway .. its uploaded ;)17:34
JazzvaI did apt-get install abrowser, and it downloaded it17:34
Jazzvaand after that a-g install abrowser-3.0-branding17:34
asaclet me check i the binaries are built17:34
asac(they are NEW)17:34
Jazzvathat's ~mt2?17:35
asacJazzva: no its bumped17:36
Jazzvaok17:36
asacJazzva: ok. pitti will proces them tomorrow17:39
Jazzvaok17:39
asacJazzva: you sure -branding doesnt upgrade to mt2 for you?17:39
Jazzvaasac, I did it manually17:43
Jazzvaasac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/45847/17:44
Jazzvathat's the output17:44
pmatulisasac: hi again, so the FF3/NFS issue is back on the table.  please advise18:25
asacJazzva: ok. thats ok. i thought it didnt upgrade when running "upgrade"19:16
asacpmatulis: are you in the state where you cannot connect to the places.sqlite DB?19:16
Jazzvaasac, oh... ok19:19
Jazzvaasac, wouldn't it be safer with strict versioning :)?19:20
asacJazzva: there is no risk ;)19:20
Jazzvaasac, ok19:20
asacso it cant be safer ;)19:20
asacmbrowser is just a meta package with nothing in it19:20
asacabrowser ;)19:20
Jazzvaah19:20
pmatulisasac: from a working system (as well as a broken one) the .tables command shows 'database is locked'.  do you have a specific test for me?19:23
asacpmatulis: so it isnt different on a broken and working system?19:23
pmatulisasac: that's right19:24
asac(both when browser is closed)19:24
pmatulisasac: one sec19:24
asacpmatulis: it should be reasonable that the database is locked when browser is running19:24
asacwhat would be a problem is when database is locked while browser isnt running19:24
pmatulisasac: right19:24
asacwhich i understood is the case for nfs cold boot19:24
asacis that really the case?19:24
pmatulisasac: locked on broken19:25
Lnsasac: how goes it?19:25
asacpmatulis: locked=logged?19:25
asacLns: if someone asks like this i always have the feeling that it wont get better ;)19:25
pmatulisasac: on working it does not connect ('encrypted or not a database')19:25
asacpmatulis: ok. thats when browser is not running?19:26
pmatulisasac: on broken, i connect but the .tables command gives 'database is locked'19:26
pmatulisasac: yes, not running19:26
Lnsasac: lol... just checking in with you regarding what we discussed last week regarding Firefox 3.01 in Ubuntu/LTSP, and the slowness/lockup issues I've (and others) have been experiencing.. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45370419:26
ubottuMozilla bug 453704 in General "Extreme slowness, "Firefox is already running" error for >3 users launching Firefox in LTSP environment" [Critical,Unconfirmed]19:26
asacpmatulis: do you use sqlite3? i think i saw that "encrypted" error when trying sqlite (aka v2)19:26
pmatulisasac: i'm on hardy, it's sqlite319:27
pmatulisasac: but my broken system is intrepid19:27
asacpmatulis: hardy also has sqlite (aka 2)19:27
pmatulisasac: yes, just saw that19:28
asacpmatulis: $ sqlite places.sqlite19:28
asacUnable to open database "places.sqlite": file is encrypted or is not a database19:28
asacasac@tinya:~/.mozilla/firefox/8bil8cfx.default$ sqlite3 places.sqlite19:28
asacSQLite version 3.4.219:28
asacpmatulis: so please try sqlite3 ;)19:28
pmatulisasac: ah19:28
asacEnter ".help" for instructions19:28
asacsqlite> asac@tinya:~/.mozilla/firefox/8bil8cfx.default$19:28
asacpmatulis: ok. so i assume that the problem really is that its locked19:29
asacon broken system ... but not on working system (when ffox is not running for both)19:29
pmatulisasac: now with sqlite3 on both systems i get same output19:29
pmatulisasac: no difference19:29
asacpmatulis: what exactly?19:29
asac"Datbase locked" ?19:30
pmatulisasac: .tables command gives 10 tables (moz_anno_attributes, moz.....)19:30
asacpmatulis: and are you positive that firefox is still broken now?19:31
pmatulisasac: on broken, i lost all toolbar bookmarks and back/forward buttons19:32
asacpmatulis: ok. but when stopping firefox, moving places.sqlite3 away and then back to that location and starting firefox again cures you?19:32
pmatulisasac: stand by19:33
pmatulisasac: yes19:33
asacpmatulis: really?19:33
pmatulisasac: yes19:33
asacpmatulis: hmm. what i would find interesting is whether the size of that file changed19:34
asacfrom before and after19:34
asacbut you probably cannot test that quickly?19:34
pmatulisasac: stand by for cold boot and cure?19:34
asacpmatulis: let me test something19:36
asachmm i managed to get the db into a "locked" state19:38
asacbut then i wanted to see if that reproduces it19:39
asacbut now i cant get that into that state anymore19:39
pmatulisasac: nope, no change in file at all19:42
pmatulisasac: but cure works again19:42
asacpmatulis: good.19:43
asacpmatulis: i am still thinking that its a lock causing this19:43
asacwhich is done on a filesystem basis and moving back and forth resolves that19:43
asacnow i am trying to get my database in such a state ;)19:43
pmatulisasac: pop up an nfs share!19:44
pmatulisasac: i think my previous results became inconsistent b/c my nfs share wasn't set up properly (uid mapping problem)19:45
asacpmatulis: well. for you the db isnt even locked?19:45
asac(when using sqlite3)?19:45
pmatulisasac: wasn't before, trying again19:45
pmatulisasac: note that i still have to go through the profile locking barrier19:46
pmatulisasac: by removing .parentlock and .lock19:46
pmatulisasac: not even looking at that (not sure if it's related)19:46
* asac currently reading http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Storage#SQLite_Locking19:48
asacah ok19:50
asacso begin EXCLUSIVE;19:50
asacin sqlite3 will put the db into a locked state19:50
pmatulisasac: this time the DB is locked (?)19:51
asacpmatulis: ok. but ffox isnt running?19:53
pmatulisasac: correct19:56
asacpmatulis: ok. now what we would need to know if there is a way to forcefully release a flock19:57
asacwhich i think is on that file19:57
asac(if you dont get "database locked" firefox probably adoesnt have an exclusive lock, but a shared one)19:57
pmatulisasac: you want me to try something else?20:06
asacpmatulis: i am out for 1h or so cu later20:42
pmatulisasac: do you want me to open a bug for this or not?20:43
bdmurrayasac: around?22:43
asacbdmurray: one sec22:45
asacbdmurray: so... go ahead ;)22:46
bdmurraybug 216354 looks like a dup of bug 204631 - I was planning on merging them22:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 216354 in firefox-3.0 "firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21635422:47
ubottuBug 204631 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/204631 is private22:47
bdmurrayand making that one not private22:48
asacbdmurray: yeah. also maybe remove the [] brackets around master22:49
asaclaunchpad doesnt find MASTER if they are in brackets (anymore)22:49
bdmurraythat's really neat22:49
bdmurrayasac: where did you notice that search feature?22:58
asacbdmurray: hmm. works better now22:58
asacstrange22:58
bdmurrayhmm, and I already changed it - oh well22:59
asacbdmurray: not a problem :) ... as long as it shows up when searching for MASTER its fine imo23:01
bdmurrayasac: bug 216496 and bug 263749 also seem to be dups should the newer one be used as the master?23:03
ubottuBug 216496 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/216496 is private23:03
ubottuBug 263749 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/263749 is private23:03
asacbdmurray: imo. there is no need to re-master bug-clusters :)23:04
asacso keep the original main bug23:04
asacif there is valuable info it might be worth pasting that into the main bug23:04
bdmurrayneither has any dups and the newer one is about the 8.10 package23:04
bdmurraywhoops, I guess the older one has one dupe23:05
asacyeah. whatever bug has less dups becomes a child bug imo23:06
bdmurrayright, I'll just add the version from the 8.10 bug into the parent23:07
asacbdmurray: is there any hint about how to reproduce them?23:09
asacbdmurray: hmm23:10
asac263749 is a reall old bug23:10
asaci mean a dupe of a old bug23:10
asaclook for gtk_style_realize23:10
bdmurrayin firefox maybe and not firefox-3.0 maybe?23:11
asacbdmurray: yeah in firefox23:11
asacoh dear23:12
asaclaunchpad search again :)23:12
asacbdmurray: 8801123:13
asac8801123:13
asac9105423:13
asac11494323:14
asac7087523:14
asac7425223:14
asachmm ... i am sure we had a master with 200+ dupes23:14
asacwhere is it?23:14
bdmurraymaybe 72018?23:14
asacbug 72018?23:15
asacbug 7201823:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 72018 in xulrunner-1.9 "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize] [@nsFilePicker::Show]" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7201823:15
asacah yeah23:15
asacbdmurray: ok (variant)23:15
asacwas the left over bug23:15
asacwhich i set to "wont fix"23:15
asacbecause i didnt get more dupes23:15
asacbdmurray: so if the traces are similar we should reopen that one23:15
bdmurrayThey look similar to me.23:18
asacbdmurray: i dont mind23:18
asacwe can also make a new master for ffox 323:18
bdmurraythe dups talk about gtk_style_realize, gtk_style_attach and gtk_widget_set_style_internal which all match23:19
asactse23:20
asacbdmurray: so which ffox 3 bugs are candidates for dupes?23:20
asacoh got you23:20
bdmurraybug 216496 and its dups23:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 216496 in firefox-3.0 "firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21649623:21
asacbdmurray: ok. i dont mind what you do with them23:22
asacthey are certainly confirmed23:22
asacbut i get the feeling that this is a whole class of crashes23:22
asacand most likely its different to the one we had in ffox 223:22
asactoo bad that we have no clue how to repro23:24
asaciirc, this crash class happens when there is a dangling window for an already freed widget23:25
asacor was it the other way around23:25
asachmm23:25
Lnsasac: This isn't a dupe, but I was wondering if you had time to work on this bug with me: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45370423:25
ubottuMozilla bug 453704 in General "Extreme slowness, "Firefox is already running" error for >3 users launching Firefox in LTSP environment" [Critical,Unconfirmed]23:25
asacLns: did you get feedback from ogra?23:25
Lnsasac: no i didn't, was he notified of it?23:26
asacLns: didnt i send you to him?23:26
Lnsasac: nope..you told me to catch up with you the next day re: it23:26
asacyeah. ok23:27
Lnsand my wife had our baby that day...so...i wasn't too available until now23:27
asacyou should remember me earlier23:27
asache is again gone for today23:27
asac;)23:27
asacLns: ah ok23:27
Lnsheh.. ok =) so did you talk with him at all about it?23:27
asacno23:27
asacLns: maybe ill remember when i see him chatting tomorrow23:27
asacLns: its easier to open a bug in launchpad23:27
asacand subscribe him there i think23:27
LnsI'll do that23:28
Lns(open a bug)23:28
asacdo you have a bug?23:28
Lnsjust in bugzilla23:28
asacyes. subscribe me too23:28
asacasac23:28
asacand ogra23:28
Lnsok, np23:28
* Lns didn't know you could subscribe other people23:28
asacthat mail will end up in a high prio mailbox then23:28
asacyou can on the side there is an action23:28
asac"subscribe someone else"23:28
Lnsnice. ok i'm on it. thanks =)23:28
asacwelcome23:29
asacbdmurray: where is the latest bug graph for ffox 3?23:30
Lnsasac: i did sub to this bug, thinking it might be related..any thoughts? https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/22974523:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 229745 in xulrunner-1.9 "after fix for #215728 - Committing to urlclassifier3.sqlite still causes excessive CPU usage and disk I/O (the 2nd)" [High,In progress]23:30
asacLns: well. thats still a problem and it causes IO23:32
asacLns: if you dont have a high IO load23:32
asacthen its not the problem most likely23:32
asacor is that IO load you are seeing?23:32
Lnsasac: well i haven't checked IO, but 35 people jumping on FF at the same time would definitely cause blockage...23:33
Lnswell, the CPU definitely pegs out, even with just a few users jumping on23:33
asacLns:  that problem doesnt start right on startup from what i know23:33
Lnssitting idle will still cause single procs to consume 30-60% cpu23:33
asacits something that gets worth over time23:33
Lnsok23:33
Lnsmaybe 2 separate things23:33
asacworse ;)23:33
asacLns: for you disabling that malware thing helps?23:34
Lnsasac: I think it did help, but there are still issues. I did get some reports that after "a couple of minutes" firefox will launch - some after getting the "Firefox is already running" error and trying again23:35
LnsIt seems to have just made it a bit more bearable (but still not acceptable to wait 2-4 minutes for it to launch)23:35
asacthe firefox already running error sounds wierd23:36
asacbut i think i already said that23:36
asacsounds more like a wierd X11 issue23:36
asacat least if those are different unix-users with different home directories23:36
asacLns: anyway. i would suggest to open a new bug anyway. if its a dupe we can still merge it into another bug23:38
Lnsasac: ok, i'll do that. Yeah, I really thought it was weird too (the error). It really shouldn't be happening, as they are all different users w/different homedirs.23:40
asacLns: firefox looks for locks in profile dir23:41
asacLns: it also tries to contact a running X window23:41
asacLns: so if X desktops are somehow shared this might cause confusion23:41
Lnsasac: yeah, someone mentioned that in an LTSP list - check this out23:41
Lnsasac: http://pastebin.com/m7386054d23:43
asacLns: by coincident i looked at that locking code today23:46
Lnsooo, fresh on the noggin ;)23:46
Lnsany ideas?23:47
LnsI find it weird that it uses 127.0.0.1, which may or may not conflict with it looking at the server vs. thin-client23:47
Lnsdepending on the code I guess23:47
asacLns: that symbolic link just allows users of the same profile to obtain a lock23:47
asacon filesystems that dont have native locking support23:48
asacLns: can you look if .parentlock is also a symlink?23:48
LnsI can see if i can find any on my own system, although i'm not experiencing this problem23:48
Lnsnope - -rw-r--r-- 1 jerickson jerickson        0 2008-09-10 14:28 .parentlock23:49
Lnslrwxrwxrwx 1 jerickson jerickson       15 2008-09-10 14:28 lock -> 127.0.1.1:+388723:50
Lnsjerickson@Fibonacci:~/.mozilla/firefox/5rwscmny.default$ file lock23:50
Lnslock: broken symbolic link to `127.0.1.1:+3887'23:50
asacLns: the link means: lock owned by process 3887 on host with IP 127.0.1.123:50
Lnsasac: oh ok.23:50
asacas long as users use different home dirs (and thus profiles) this shouldnt cause any issues23:51
Lnsok. Which they definitely do.23:51
asacLns: hmm. maybe that lock file is left over from last run?23:52
LnsI'm wondering where I can trace the activity when users start up firefox - the "firefox" process isn't descriptive enough.23:52
Lnsasac: possibly.. i can't say for sure since i wasn't troubleshooting it myself, just got word from other techs. They really don't know a whole lot, and 9-13 year old students are the users.23:53
asacLns: ok. file the bug, get ogra subscribed who should know about other ltsp installs23:53
LnsI could sweep all dirs of the locks, but that just seems like a hack, because if even if it happens only when firefox crashes after trying to launch after 2-4 minutes, ...23:53
Lnsok23:54

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