[00:17] <MythbuntuGuest08> ls
[00:17] <MythbuntuGuest08> lol
[00:17] <MythbuntuGuest08> hi all
[00:18] <MythbuntuGuest08> need advice for playback settings pls
[00:22] <MythbuntuGuest08> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d372119f7
[00:47] <MythbuntuGuest08> ?
[02:06] <MythbuntuGuest08> hi
[03:04] <MythbuntuGuest08> anyone listening ?
[03:07] <Asa_A> yes
[03:17] <MythbuntuGuest08> need advice for playback setting pls
[03:19] <MythbuntuGuest08> Asa_A: can u help pls
[03:22] <Asa_A> 'k, whats your question?
[03:22] <Asa_A> or problem
[03:22] <MythbuntuGuest08> the video play is freezing
[03:23] <MythbuntuGuest08> live tv or recorded ones
[03:23] <MythbuntuGuest08> if I open the saved .mpd in VLC .. its fine
[03:25] <Asa_A> is vlc still fine if you play in fullscreen?
[03:26] <MythbuntuGuest08> yes it is fine
[03:32] <Asa_A> does it just play for a few seconds then stop?
[03:33] <MythbuntuGuest08> which one u mean .. tv or the VLC
[03:33] <MythbuntuGuest08> tv does not play .. VLC plays fine ..
[03:34] <Asa_A> so mythtv doesn't even start the videos?
[03:37] <MythbuntuGuest08> it does just freezes ast first frame
[03:38] <MythbuntuGuest08> or max 2 -3 frames
[03:44] <Asa_A> I don't know what else to suggest. my guess would be that some of your hardware isn't fast enough, except that vlc plays fine
[03:50] <MythbuntuGuest08> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d372119f7
[03:50] <MythbuntuGuest08> logs r there
[03:50] <MythbuntuGuest08> can anything be made out of that ?
[03:51] <Asa_A> its an audio problem. Do you know what buffer underrun means?
[03:51] <MythbuntuGuest08> I am sorry I am a newbie
[03:51] <MythbuntuGuest08> I donno much
[03:52] <Asa_A> np, I don't know exactly whats causing it but I can try to explain whats happening.
[03:53] <MythbuntuGuest08> ok pls do
[03:55] <Asa_A> your sound card uses a buffer, its like a line at the bank. First person in line is the first person out. your sound card needs to have something in the buffer the whole time, but your sound card is processing faster than mythtv can fill the buffer. The underrun means that the line is empty, so your sound card has to stop and wait for mythtv to sends more audio.
[03:55] <MythbuntuGuest08> ok why is the video getting affected
[03:56] <Asa_A> its probably trying to sync the audio and video, so if the audio stops, the video stops too
[03:57] <MythbuntuGuest08> ok any idea what i CAN DO
[03:58] <Asa_A> check Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Playback
[03:58] <Asa_A> do you have "Extra audio buffering" checked?
[03:58] <MythbuntuGuest08> lemme check
[04:00] <MythbuntuGuest08> yes it is checked
[04:02] <MythbuntuGuest08> i unchked it & still no use
[04:06] <Asa_A> check ﻿Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Recording Profiles > Software Encoders > Live TV ... press Next until you get to the audio section. What is your sampling rate?
[04:07] <Asa_A> it might need to be 44100 or 48000. I don't completely understand the sampling rate but I know i've had to change it before
[04:08] <MythbuntuGuest08> bit rate 4500, maxbit rate 6000
[04:08] <MythbuntuGuest08> sampling rate 48000
[04:08] <MythbuntuGuest08> type layer II bit rate 384 kbps
[04:08] <Asa_A> I don't have a bitrate option on my screen
[04:09] <MythbuntuGuest08> I have a hardware encode donno if it makes a diff
[04:10] <Asa_A> I think it does, under ﻿Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Recording Profiles what options do you have? I have "Software Encoders (v4l based)" and :Transcoders:
[04:11] <MythbuntuGuest08> MPEG-2 Encoders, Hardware DVB Encoders, Transcoders
[04:18] <Asa_A> i'm not sure what else to try right now.
[04:18] <MythbuntuGuest08> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m4a9696bf
[04:18] <MythbuntuGuest08> pls see that it has more details
[04:19] <Asa_A> "Falling back to X11 video output over a network socket." Are you running mythtv from a remote computer, or running it as a different user on the same computer?
[04:22] <MythbuntuGuest08> I am running in same computer
[04:22] <MythbuntuGuest08> whats the default user ?
[04:24] <Asa_A> I think if you're using mythbuntu, the default user is named mythtv. I was just wondering if you were just running mythfrontend or running something like "sudo -u mythtv mythfrontend"
[04:24] <MythbuntuGuest08> just running mythfrontend
[04:25] <Asa_A> I don't know why it would fall back to running the video over the network. I still think the primary problem is the audio though, but the video seemed odd
[04:27] <Asa_A> "AudioOutput Warning: Mixer attach error -2: No such file or directory Check Mixer Name in Setup: '/dev/mixer'" <- this looks like a potential problem too... i'm looking for where /dev/mixer comes from
[04:27] <MythbuntuGuest08> ok..
[04:29] <Asa_A> from a terminal run "ls -l /dev/mixer*"
[04:29] <Asa_A> I have /dev/mixer and /dev/mixer1
[04:30] <MythbuntuGuest08> i have /dev/mixer
[04:31] <Asa_A> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14,  0 2008-08-31 21:23 /dev/mixer <- does it look like this?
[04:32] <MythbuntuGuest08> yes
[04:33] <Asa_A> does the command "groups" show that you're in the audio group?
[04:34] <MythbuntuGuest08> yes
[04:39] <Asa_A> i'm out of ideas at the moment :(
[04:40] <MythbuntuGuest08> thx appreciate ur help
[05:06] <JDStone> isn't there some way to make MythTV transcode (is that the correct term?) recordings so they aren't so large in file size?
[05:10] <Asa_A> I think it kind of depends on what format you're recording in. transcoding is when it converts your file from one format to another or I think you can transcode to the same format to cut commercials (which doesn't save much)
[05:10] <Asa_A> Do you know what format you're currently using?
[05:12] <Asa_A> ﻿Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Recording Profiles > ? (I've got "Software Encoders, but if you have a hardware encoder it'll be different) > Next > Next
[05:13] <JDStone> I'm not using the mythfrontend
[05:13] <JDStone> can I make these changes from mythweb?
[05:14] <Asa_A> I don't think so
[05:14] <JDStone> but don't the settings in mythfrontend only apply when using mythfrontend?
[05:15] <JDStone> that's where those settings are located
[05:15] <JDStone> the ones you noted above
[05:16] <Asa_A> yea, that logic makes sense, but they're in the frontend even though they control how the program is recorded.
[05:17] <Asa_A> do you not have a monitor connected to the backend or something?
[05:20] <planeracer> hi
[05:20] <Asa_A> hello
[05:21] <planeracer> someone can help me scanner?
[05:21] <planeracer> channel scanner
[05:22] <JDStone> Asa_A: yes, I do
[05:22] <JDStone> I just took a look at those settings
[05:22] <JDStone> I have the PVR 250
[05:24] <Asa_A> what codec does it say in mythfrontend? under live or default
[05:24] <JDStone> MPEG-2
[05:24] <JDStone> PVR x50, 500
[05:24] <JDStone> actually, let me check one more time
[05:25] <JDStone> Under Recording Profiles, I have:
[05:25] <JDStone> MPEG-2 Encoders (PVR-x50, PVR-500)
[05:25] <JDStone> Transcoders
[05:25] <JDStone> and
[05:26] <JDStone> (Create new profile group)
[05:26] <JDStone> If I go to: MPEG-2 Encoders (PVR-x50, PVR-500)
[05:26] <JDStone> the codec for default is MPEG-2 Hardware encoder
[05:26] <JDStone> and I no other choices
[05:26] <JDStone> with for Live
[05:26] <JDStone> also
[05:27] <Asa_A> you have a hardware encoder in your card, so are there any other options for codecs?
[05:28] <JDStone> nope, that's the only codec I can choose
[05:28] <JDStone> Is there a way to get more codecs?
[05:29] <Asa_A> I think you don't have other options because its a chip on your TV tuner that creates the file
[05:29] <Asa_A> you can transcode them into another format after they shows record though
[05:29] <JDStone> crap
[05:29] <JDStone> oh
[05:29] <JDStone> if I do that
[05:30] <JDStone> will it delete the original file and replace it with the transcoded one?
[05:30] <Asa_A> btw, doing that kind of defeats th point of having a hardware tuner
[05:30] <JDStone> how so?
[05:30] <Asa_A> I think theres a setting to determine that. I've come across it before but I don't remember exactly where it is or what the default is
[05:30] <JDStone> the files are too big
[05:30] <JDStone> which is why I want to transcode them
[05:31] <JDStone> I suppose I could lower the MPEG-2 Hardware encoder bitrate, huh?
[05:31] <Asa_A> I don't have a hardware tuner, so I get a raw stream and my computer has to encode them. it requires a much faster processor.
[05:31] <JDStone> ahh
[05:31] <Asa_A> are you running on a low-end system?
[05:32] <JDStone> no, it's a Athlon 64 X2
[05:32] <JDStone> 2800+ I believe
[05:32] <Asa_A> then its probably not a problem for you
[05:32] <JDStone> 1 GB ram
[05:32] <JDStone> yeah
[05:32] <Asa_A> you might consider adding more ram but it'll probably work as-is
[05:33] <JDStone> well, I just tried to transcode an already recorded show through mythweb and I receive "exit status 255, job status was 'Errored'"
[05:33] <JDStone> what does that mean ^?
[05:36] <Asa_A> I think it means that its trying to use the "mythtranscode" command, but it didn't work. I'm not sure how to find out what the exact command is so you can run it and see if theres any more output from it
[05:36] <JDStone> hmm, alright.  Thanks for your help Asa_A, i really appreciate it
[05:37] <Asa_A> *mythtranscode requires passing several parameters
[05:37] <JDStone> I'm going to mess around with it at some other time when I have time
[05:37] <Asa_A> 'k, good luck
[05:37] <JDStone> but shouldn't there be a default set of parameters for mythtranscode?
[05:38] <Asa_A> "mythtranscode --help" will show you want it accepts, when I run it without any parameters it says "Must specify -i OR -c AND -s options!"
[05:39] <JDStone> alright, thanks again
[05:39] <Asa_A> np
[05:49] <JDStone> Asa_A: alright, I'm looking at the log of the mythbackend and it says:
[05:49] <JDStone> Transcode: Using autodetect profile: MPEG2
[05:49] <JDStone> No Video Information found!
[05:49] <JDStone> Please ensure that recording profiles for the transcoder are set
[05:49] <JDStone> I thought I did that
[06:02] <Asa_A> JDStone: how much storage do your shows take? I think my shows tend to be about .75GB an hour
[06:03] <Asa_A> *using mpeg-4 encoding
[07:01] <JDStone> about a gig per hour
[07:01] <JDStone> I think I've figured out how to configure this thing
[07:01] <JDStone> i'm going to bed
[07:01] <JDStone> thanks Asa_A
[09:25] <MythbuntuGuest11> Hi, I just installed mythbuntu Im a total noob at linux sorry, my card is a compro dvt 300 it picks up the card but when I try to scan for channels it cant connect to the card. Any ideas? cheers
[20:22] <datadevil> hi
[20:22] <datadevil> I have problems changing channels using a mythbuntu backend server, and a laptop frontend running ubuntu with mythfrontend
[20:25] <tgm4883_laptop> !starters
[20:25] <Zinn> To get help we will need some info.  Please look at the log files located in /var/log/mythtv/  Also be sure to tell us of any error messages.  You may need to start the offending program from the command line in order to see what is going on.  Please pastebin these logs at http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com
[20:26] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, we are going to need your backend log
[20:26] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: added problem, tried to re-setup the channels etc, and now the frontend has this;
[20:26] <datadevil> The symptom of this is that regardless of what channel you select (using up, down, or typing in a number), the video source doesn’t actually change, but the OSD will. Re-run mythtv-setup as root and delete your cards/tuners. Then exit, and re-run mythtv-setup and add your tuner/card(s) as the mythtv user.
[20:26] <datadevil> eh sorry
[20:26] <datadevil> 2008-09-11 21:26:04.606 TV Error: StartRecorder() -- timed out waiting for recorder to start
[20:26] <datadevil> that
[20:27] <datadevil> also need backend logs for that?
[20:27] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, no, we need your whole /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[20:27] <tgm4883_laptop> it's for troubleshooting
[20:27] <datadevil> k
[20:27] <datadevil> sure
[20:29] <datadevil> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m27d0f65a
[20:29] <datadevil> problem seems worse then before; at least the output was working, now I screwed up something else it seems
[20:30] <tgm4883_laptop> is there a frontend on your backend machine?
[20:31] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, and what tuner do you have?
[20:31] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: yes, and i have a pvr150
[20:32] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[20:32] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, i'm assuming that you have issues using your frontend that is on your backend also?
[20:33] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: had other problems with that at first, the image wouldnt refresh, and as I want to use the one on the laptop only and that did work apart from channel changing I didn't test it now anymore
[20:33] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[20:34] <tgm4883_laptop> whats hooked up to the pvr-150?
[20:34] <tgm4883_laptop> a cable, or a cablebox?
[20:36] <datadevil> cable
[20:38] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, lets work on the backend first then
[20:38] <tgm4883_laptop> we'll get that working, then move to the frontend
[20:39] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, what do you use for a guide data provider?
[20:41] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: nothing
[20:41] <tgm4883_laptop> you didn't make a data source, or you made a data source with nothing?
[20:42] <datadevil> ehhh..checking
[20:43] <tgm4883_laptop> and what command are you using to get into mythtv-setup?  sudo mythtv-setup or just mythtv-setup?
[20:44] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: i'm using the ubuntu menu for it now
[20:44] <datadevil> but I also did use both versions on the command line
[20:45] <datadevil> i might be better off resetting everything to 0 I get the feeling
[20:45] <tgm4883_laptop> yea you don't want to use sudo to run mythtv-setup
[20:45] <tgm4883_laptop> we are going to need to resetup your tuners, as I feel thats probably one of the issues
[20:46] <tgm4883_laptop> go ahead back into mythtv-setup, and delete your tuners, your data source
[20:46] <datadevil> yeah, what I did as I found a page hinting to that was delete them using sudo mythtv-setup, and then run it without sudo
[20:47] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, let me know when those are deleted
[20:47] <tgm4883_laptop> then we can start re-adding them
[20:47] <datadevil> ok, so delete using sudo or doesnt that matter?
[20:48] <tgm4883_laptop> use sudo to delete them, because I think thats how you added them
[20:48] <tgm4883_laptop> but don't use sudo for that in the future
[20:48] <datadevil> yep
[20:50] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: originally I think I only ran it through the menu though, but doesn't hurt to try this
[20:50] <datadevil> k, done
[20:50] <datadevil> restarted the setup now
[20:50] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[20:51] <tgm4883_laptop> actually, we might have to delete the channels too
[20:51] <tgm4883_laptop> but you can do that from here too
[20:51] <datadevil> k
[20:51] <datadevil> I deleted everything under video sources already, should suffice?.
[20:52] <datadevil> no channels anymore it seems
[20:52] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, what about like in step 5 or 6
[20:52] <tgm4883_laptop> the should be channels in ther
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> although they might have been deleted when you deleted the source
[20:53] <datadevil> think so yeah
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> so lets go into step 1 and add the tuner
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> is this a single tuner system?
[20:53] <datadevil> yep
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[20:54] <tgm4883_laptop> then add it as a PVR-XXX hardware encoder card
[20:54] <datadevil> it says analog v4l card
[20:54] <datadevil> in card type
[20:54] <tgm4883_laptop> change it
[20:54] <datadevil> and probed info is pvr150
[20:55] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[20:55] <tgm4883_laptop> you should be able to hit left or right and change the card type
[20:55] <datadevil> ok, that was the thing that probably did right the first time, and did wrong the second when attempting to fix the channel not changing problem
[20:56] <datadevil> changed it
[20:56] <datadevil> next?
[20:56] <tgm4883_laptop> yep, that would have been a major problem
[20:56] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, so now it's a PVR hardware encoder?
[20:56] <datadevil> that explains the problem in the backend log about the codecs i guess
[20:56] <datadevil> yeah
[20:56] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[20:57] <datadevil> k, I have to go make the baby boy a bottle, bb in 10, is that ok?
[20:58] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[21:02]  * tgm4883_laptop goes to grab some lunch
[21:02] <datadevil> back
[21:03] <tgm4883_laptop> bah
[21:03] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[21:03] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm going to give you some instructions, and then get some lunch
[21:03] <datadevil> ok, nice these timezones :-P
[21:03] <datadevil> nearly bed time for me :-P
[21:04] <tgm4883_laptop> step 2 is video sources, we need to add one that is for none
[21:05] <tgm4883_laptop> err, I guess thats step 3 on the menu
[21:05] <tgm4883_laptop> so step 4 is connecting that video source to your tuner card
[21:05] <tgm4883_laptop> I believe step 4 is also when you scan for channels
[21:06] <tgm4883_laptop> step 5 isn't needed here, and step 6 (storage groups) should already be done from your last setup
[21:07] <datadevil> ok, no grabber, and frequency europe-west for me
[21:07] <datadevil> scanning for channels now
[21:12] <datadevil> done with that now
[21:13] <datadevil> anything else?
[21:15] <tgm4883_laptop> nope, that will probably be goo
[21:15] <tgm4883_laptop> good
[21:15] <tgm4883_laptop> just exit that and fire up the frontend on your backend and see if it works
[21:17] <datadevil> yeah, shows tv again, but still no switching of channels; it says it switches in the overlay stuff but it doesn't
[21:18] <datadevil> so we're at least back to some partially working system
[21:23] <tgm4883_laptop> is this on the backend/frontend or the remote frontend?
[21:23] <datadevil> remote
[21:23] <tgm4883_laptop> I need you to pastebin your whole /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log file again
[21:23] <tgm4883_laptop> so we can see what changed
[21:25] <datadevil> k
[21:26] <datadevil> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m3ffe61a , pasted from a certain point I thought was interesting
[21:31] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: anything interesting inthere?
[21:35] <tgm4883_laptop> can you pastebin the whole thing?
[21:36] <tgm4883_laptop> or at the very least, like the last 50 lines
[21:38] <datadevil> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m4c17ced1
[21:38] <datadevil> better I guess
[21:39] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[21:39] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, lets try this
[21:39] <tgm4883_laptop> first
[21:40] <tgm4883_laptop> I'd like to clean out that log, then startup live tv, then try changeing the channel
[21:40] <tgm4883_laptop> then pastebin that log again
[21:41] <datadevil> ok
[21:42] <datadevil> so stop the server I guess, how?
[21:42] <datadevil> sudo /etc/init.d/mythbackend-stop ?
[21:44] <tgm4883_laptop> no need to stop the server, unless you really want
[21:44] <datadevil> k
[21:44] <datadevil> did stop it, echo'd "" to log, restarted
[21:44] <datadevil> now starting frontend
[21:44] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[21:44] <tgm4883_laptop> be sure to pastebin the whole thing again
[21:45] <datadevil> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m66a518a7
[21:45] <datadevil> complete
[21:49] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[21:50] <tgm4883_laptop> nothing jumping out at me
[21:50] <tgm4883_laptop> you have an audio issue, but I doubt thats related
[21:50] <datadevil> yeah, dont think so either
[21:50] <datadevil> mmppff...
[21:50] <datadevil> sucks
[21:52] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[21:52] <tgm4883_laptop> what are your channels numbered?
[21:52] <tgm4883_laptop> like 2,3,4,5?
[21:53] <tgm4883_laptop> or like 1001, 1002
[21:53] <tgm4883_laptop> etc
[21:53] <datadevil> in the frontend they are unknown25, unknown26 etc
[21:54] <datadevil> I think the 25 and 26 are the frequencies
[21:54] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[21:54] <tgm4883_laptop> I think somewhere here lies the problem
[21:54] <tgm4883_laptop> from your log
[21:54] <tgm4883_laptop> 2008-09-11 22:16:18.397 Finished recording Unknown: channel 1022
[21:55] <datadevil> according to mythweb its E22, E25, E26,  and then 22, 26,,28,29 etc.. in the column channum
[21:55] <datadevil> mmm
[21:55] <datadevil> so how to fix0r
[21:59] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, there isn't an external channel changer that you set is there?
[22:00] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: I did play around with itvt-tune at some point
[22:00] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: to try and fix this, and maybe also a while back
[22:00] <tgm4883_laptop> but did you set an external channel change script in mythtv-setup
[22:05] <datadevil> no
[22:05] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[22:10] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: thanks so far, have to go to bed
[22:10] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[22:11] <datadevil> no last minute insights?
[22:11] <tgm4883_laptop> sorry not a one
[22:11] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll think about it though
[22:11] <datadevil> thanks for your help though
[23:47] <TazgodX> been a while since ive been in here, working a lot and buying new equiptment
[23:47] <TazgodX> so back to a question i never really got an answer to 4+ months ago. how does Mythbuntu play with AT&T's U-Verse?