lizzie | Currently ubottu can be told to private message someone who is not in the channel. Why is this? | 00:06 |
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Seeker` | shouldn't it be able to? | 00:07 |
lizzie | I don't think so. Somebody who doesn't even share a channel with the bot should not have to worry about being annoyed by it. | 00:08 |
lizzie | More urgently, does it do anything to prevent factoids to be sent to nickserv, chanserv, etc? | 00:08 |
Seeker` | so should someone not in a channel with another user "not have to worry about being annoyed by" them? | 00:08 |
lizzie | because an unlucky factoid could cause a security vulnerability, like if any factoids start with "unlink" or something | 00:09 |
lizzie | Seeker`: I would argue that PMs from users are different from PMs from bots. | 00:09 |
lizzie | Seeker`: A bot is there to help me when I need it. I see no reason a bot should initiate a conversation. | 00:09 |
Seeker` | the bot doesn't automatically PM someone, a user has to tell it to PM someone | 00:09 |
stdin | lizzie: it always prefixes the message with "<person> wants you to know, ...". so you know who it's from and it can't do anything with nick/chanserv | 00:10 |
lizzie | stdin: good point, I didn't think of that | 00:10 |
* lizzie wonders if the nickname "unlink" is in use on freenode | 00:10 | |
Seeker` | lizzie: what is the problem with "unlink"? | 00:12 |
lizzie | Seeker`: sorry, I meant "ungroup" | 00:13 |
lizzie | See, someone could log in as "ungroup", and then ask the bot to PM a factoid to nickserv. | 00:13 |
lizzie | which would then attempt to drop every word in the factoid as a nickname, possibly including the bot's own name in several factoids. | 00:13 |
Myrtti | doesn't it still need a password? | 00:16 |
stdin | apparently not | 00:16 |
stdin | !fixed > lizzie | 00:17 |
ubottu | lizzie, please see my private message | 00:17 |
Seeker` | group just links additional nicknames to the account | 00:18 |
Seeker` | ungroup will drop associated nicknames, but not the original account | 00:18 |
lizzie | stdin: er, should have messaged you in this channel | 00:19 |
lizzie | stdin: I can still get private messages sent to people who aren't here. | 00:19 |
stdin | PMs to another channel are still on, I don't see the point in disabling it (it's a useful feature) | 00:19 |
Seeker` | lizzie: telling the bot to send messages to people who aren't in channels is potentially useful | 00:19 |
stdin | but it'll surround the nick with < and > | 00:19 |
lizzie | stdin: Ah, I see, that does help security then | 00:20 |
stdin | we often use '!bot > user' from here when someone in, say #ubuntu, starts speaking to the bot as if it's a person | 00:21 |
stdin | it saves channel spam and is a little less embarrassing to the user | 00:22 |
mneptok | like someone whispering "you're fat" at the opera. | 00:31 |
* mneptok has no idea what that means | 00:31 | |
lizzie | stdin: I can't imagine how it could possibly not be embarassing :P | 01:11 |
lizzie | !bot >lizzie | 01:11 |
ubottu | lizzie, please see my private message | 01:11 |
* lizzie considers PMing people and claiming to be a bot next time they try to hit on me on IRC | 01:12 | |
mneptok | "365 Ways to Enhacne Your Love Life" | 02:01 |
mneptok | nothing says "love life" like acne. | 02:01 |
Myrtti | now my cv is almost done | 02:10 |
Myrtti | nini kids | 02:13 |
jrib | who is this HostMark guy? He is annoying | 02:22 |
jrib | HostMark | I will do don't worry, im here to make sure chat runs | 02:23 |
jrib | smoothly and nicely :) | 02:23 |
elky_work | mneptok: acne scars might be an improvement for some | 03:17 |
Flannel | anyone awake with -ot ops? | 04:57 |
mneptok | Flannel: aye | 04:58 |
* mneptok commutes | 05:04 | |
mneptok | bbiab | 05:04 |
bazhang | :) | 05:04 |
Flannel | Alright, anyone else? | 05:09 |
nalioth | Flannel: yes? | 05:37 |
* nalioth looks at the time stamps and hopes there's still not a problem . . . | 05:37 | |
Flannel | nalioth: not anymore, nope. | 05:38 |
elky_work | looking at the channel would have been useful too | 05:38 |
Flannel | elky_work: Hmmm? | 05:39 |
elky_work | than looking at the time stamp and hoping someone'd give the green light | 05:42 |
nalioth | yeah, i typed before i looked | 05:44 |
ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !want is <reply> DO NOT WANT | 06:49 |
ubottu | Daisuke_Ido called the ops in #kubuntu (freeRag) | 06:50 |
nalioth | DO NOT WANT | 06:51 |
* Madpilot wonders when ubottu replaced nalioth's brain | 07:27 | |
nalioth | Madpilot: what are you, kidding? ubottu IS my brain MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA | 07:29 |
Madpilot | must be interesting, having a brain lots of people can edit :) | 07:30 |
elky_work | it was more interesting when s/lots of people/everyone/ | 07:30 |
jussi01 | @reload Encyclopedia | 08:22 |
ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 08:22 |
jussi01 | !info acroread medibuntu | 08:22 |
stdin | !info acroread medibuntu | jussi01 | 08:34 |
ubottu | jussi01: acroread (source: acroread): Adobe Reader - binary files - Medibuntu package. In component non-free, is extra. Version 8.1.2.su1-0.0medibuntu0.8.04.1 (medibuntu), package size 28851 kB, installed size 72172 kB (Only available for amd64 i386) | 08:34 |
jussi01 | :D | 08:36 |
SlimG | I accidentaly submitted the factoid-request "norsk" to ubot5, please ignore the request, sorry for the inconvenience | 10:22 |
jussi01 | SlimG: no probs :) | 10:24 |
jussi01 | SlimG: anything else we can do for you? | 10:24 |
SlimG | No, I'm pleased :) thanks jussi01 | 10:26 |
jussi01 | SlimG: could I ask you to please take note of /topic then? :) | 10:27 |
jussi01 | !idle | SlimG | 10:28 |
ubottu | SlimG: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. | 10:28 |
SlimG | I got to get better at reading topics | 10:29 |
ubottu | DJones called the ops in #ubuntu (panhack (Spamming his website - Did the same thing yesterday)) | 10:56 |
SlimG | Is there a system for translating the factoid-bots into ex.: norwegian ? | 11:08 |
SlimG | s/factoid-bots/factoid-db/ | 11:08 |
jussi01 | SlimG: usually its done manually - some locos run their own bots. | 11:09 |
jussi01 | SlimG: the bot source is available if you want to "roll your own" | 11:10 |
SlimG | mkay, thanks for your help, again :) | 11:10 |
Myrtti | if only supybot would use gettext... | 11:12 |
Myrtti | or if there would be a way to translate the messages into gettext format and back | 11:12 |
SlimG | If I were to setup a norwegian factoid-bot on #ubuntu-no, Do you provide a server to run the bot on? or do we need to setup the bot on our own server? | 11:14 |
Myrtti | you do need to get your own server as ours runs on our personal servers too | 11:15 |
SlimG | mkay | 11:16 |
Myrtti | jussi01: do you still have Laku&Aleksi&Tuhina -video up in the net? | 11:22 |
jussi01 | hrm | 11:23 |
Myrtti | or should I host it? | 11:23 |
Myrtti | I can, if you don't mind | 11:23 |
jussi01 | Myrtti: http://jussi01.com/upload/uploads/20080628-130935-19062008015.mp4 | 11:27 |
jussi01 | Had to find it again | 11:27 |
Myrtti | and I found it too with the logs :-D | 11:28 |
jussi01 | !botclone > SlimG | 11:29 |
soundray | Is something wrong with ubottu? It doesn't seem to respond to /msg | 15:21 |
Pici | works for me. | 15:23 |
jussi01 | !test | 15:24 |
ubottu | sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed. | 15:24 |
Pici | Did you just try a bunch of invalid commands in a row? | 15:24 |
Pici | hrm. | 15:28 |
Pici | !find vimtutor | 15:28 |
ubottu | File vimtutor found in Use, of, uninitialized, value, in (and 32 others) | 15:28 |
jussi01 | I should really change that message... | 15:30 |
jussi01 | lol | 15:30 |
Pici | :) | 15:30 |
jussi01 | @search encyclopedia | 15:30 |
ubottu | supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.public, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.database, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.packagelookup, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.relaychannel, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.notfoundmsg, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.prefixchar, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.searchorder, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.datadir, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.aptdir, (1 more message) | 15:30 |
jussi01 | @config supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.notfoundmsg | 15:30 |
ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about %s | 15:30 |
jussi01 | hrm | 15:30 |
Myrtti | !search vimtutor | 15:31 |
ubottu | Found: vimtutor | 15:31 |
Pici | >:( | 15:31 |
Pici | oh, wait, thats !search, not !find | 15:32 |
jussi01 | yeah | 15:32 |
jussi01 | stdin: any ideas? | 15:32 |
jrib | the bot responds to me, stilly doing it soundray? | 15:33 |
nalioth | !msgthebot | 15:33 |
ubottu | Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubottu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. | 15:33 |
Myrtti | pft | 15:34 |
Myrtti | you're silly bunch | 15:34 |
jussi01 | oh shaddup you :P | 15:34 |
Myrtti | I love you all | 15:34 |
jrib | we had two visitors preaching gentoo in #ubuntu today by the way | 15:34 |
Myrtti | the more silly you are, the more I love you | 15:34 |
soundray | jrib: I was giving it the wrong triggers apparently. It won't respond to either 'source' or 'help', even once the private chat is open. | 15:41 |
Myrtti | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/05/10/life-is-not-fair/ ♥ | 15:48 |
ubottu | In #ubuntu, soundray said: ubottu, no, en =~ s/english/English/ | 15:53 |
soundray | :) | 15:53 |
Myrtti | !en ~= /english/English/ | 15:54 |
ubottu | I'll remember that Myrtti | 15:54 |
Pici | nooo, they be takin my karot | 15:55 |
soundray | Oh, so it's that way round | 15:56 |
nalioth | ubottu: ping | 15:57 |
ubottu | ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore | 15:57 |
nalioth | hmmm | 15:57 |
Pici | jrib: I have him in PM. His ident is root, they have that banned. | 15:57 |
jrib | ah | 15:58 |
soundray | jrib: ubottu factoids for "help" and "source" appear to exist, but they are empty | 16:01 |
Myrtti | !help | 16:02 |
ubottu | Hi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | 16:02 |
Myrtti | !source | 16:02 |
ubottu | You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html | 16:02 |
Myrtti | hm? | 16:02 |
jrib | soundray: when I ask ubottu in a pm he gives me supybot responses (maybe because I am registered with ubottu?) | 16:03 |
jrib | My source is at http://supybot.com/ for example is what I get for "source" | 16:04 |
jrib | soundray: !source seems to work in a query with him though | 16:04 |
Pici | soundray: help is also a supybot command. Use !help if you mean to invoke the factoid. | 16:04 |
Pici | same with !search | 16:06 |
soundray | I see, that explains it. Thank you! | 16:11 |
nomoa | hi, I changed my connection port to 8001, but I'm still banned from #ubuntu | 16:15 |
jrib | nomoa: did you ask the bots to test you? | 16:15 |
nomoa | no? | 16:16 |
jrib | nomoa: it should tell you how to do so in the wiki page the topic links you to | 16:16 |
jrib | or in the actual topic even | 16:17 |
nomoa | ah ok, please forgive me... sorry :) | 16:17 |
jrib | no problem nomoa | 16:17 |
ubottu | soundray called the ops in #ubuntu (hal_v2 abuse) | 16:56 |
ikonia | done it | 16:57 |
soundray | Myrtti: direct personal insults should lead to a kickban in my view | 17:02 |
ikonia | soundray: got the eye on him | 17:02 |
Myrtti | soundray: not all of the users are knowledgeable in the code of conduct and what's expected of them. it's always a good idea to mediate before kickbanning, which may result into escalating the situation instead of calming it down | 17:05 |
ikonia | although it should be noted he's been banned before | 17:06 |
Myrtti | true | 17:06 |
ikonia | he seems good now | 17:06 |
Myrtti | but I prefer to give the users who misbehave enough slack rope to hang themselves, if they feel like it - or to save themselves | 17:07 |
ikonia | it was a rude off the cuff comment, just seemed better to see if he was a genuine issue or a slip of the tounge in frustation | 17:07 |
Flannel | Always better to kick once in warning before a ban. Warning shot across the bow, so to speak. | 17:32 |
Myrtti | and even better to ask to stop before kicking, in my opinion | 17:34 |
ikonia | I asked - he stopped | 17:36 |
* Myrtti huggles ikonia | 17:36 | |
* ikonia returns to the recording studio | 17:37 | |
ikonia | laters | 17:37 |
ikonia | actually, it's raining, so maybe not | 17:38 |
nalioth | society is already breaking down here | 17:44 |
nalioth | good manners are the first to go | 17:46 |
jussi01 | nalioth: society already broke down a long time ago... | 17:57 |
stdin | jussi01: to fix !find (file search, not package search) I think it needs a restart :/ | 17:57 |
jussi01 | :/ | 17:58 |
nalioth | jussi01: no, we're having a hurricane here | 17:59 |
nalioth | and the media has society wound up really tight | 17:59 |
jussi01 | nalioth: ahh, yeah, you are in southern usa iirc | 18:00 |
nalioth | jussi01: i am in Houston, Texas. | 18:00 |
jussi01 | yep | 18:00 |
jussi01 | !test | 19:27 |
ubottu | sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed. | 19:27 |
Pici | hmm | 19:28 |
Pici | I wonder if renaming @search to something may be a good idea. Or maybe I'm just the only one that searches for stuff on the bot. | 19:29 |
Pici | because you dont need to use the prefix in /msg | 19:29 |
jussio1 | Pici: but if you do use the prefix, then you are fine | 19:33 |
Pici | jussio1: yep | 19:33 |
Pici | Thats why I said 'I wonder', instead of harshly demanding it. | 19:33 |
jussio1 | hehe... | 19:34 |
jussio1 | harsh demands get directed to /dev/null | 19:34 |
stdin | Pici: @search is built-in to supybot, so that would be non-trivial | 19:40 |
Pici | stdin: as is the rename command | 19:41 |
Pici | @help rename | 19:41 |
ubottu | (rename <plugin> <command> <new name>) -- Renames <command> in <plugin> to the <new name>. | 19:41 |
Pici | Or are you saying that its not a command that you can even rename? | 19:41 |
stdin | you know, I've never tried ;) | 19:42 |
stdin | ok, that actually does work | 19:43 |
* stdin give Pici the "Pointing out something which should be obvious to stdin but wasn't for some reason" award :D | 19:44 | |
Pici | yay | 19:44 |
stdin | ubottu: rename Config search csearch | 19:44 |
ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 19:44 |
ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 19:44 |
stdin | there we go | 19:44 |
Pici | Thanks :) | 19:44 |
Pici | PriceChild: I should have asked him those questions before, I guess I assumed too much. | 19:46 |
PriceChild | Pici: If I had a penny for all the times "I could have...". | 19:47 |
Pici | It may be prudent to keep an eye on Martiini in #ubuntu-devel. He was muted in #ubuntu the other day for being generally abusive, see the ban on 80-235-33-239-dsl.mus.estpak.ee in the bantracker. I need to do some deadline stuff for work, otherwise I'd watch myself. | 20:18 |
jussi01 | someone with access may want to look into #ubuntu+1 Pici? | 20:19 |
PriceChild | jussi01: No need for access to do something about it. | 20:21 |
jussi01 | PriceChild: you are correct of course. :) | 21:19 |
ubottu | Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu (Martiini) | 22:04 |
PriceChild | ignoring martiini, seeing if he gives up | 22:08 |
PriceChild | asked gnea do the same | 22:08 |
* PriceChild sighs | 22:09 | |
PriceChild | he even agreed to it... then gave him more attention | 22:09 |
unfo | hi all, could you please kick or ban Martiini from #ubuntu for language | 22:09 |
stdin | we are watching, please just ignore him for now | 22:10 |
unfo | btw Martiini mentions they "always get banned"... odd... why does a single ban not work? | 22:10 |
unfo | stdin: ok | 22:10 |
PriceChild | unfo: I don't know if he has been banned for not. | 22:10 |
PriceChild | unfo: he was also complaining whilst not being banned. | 22:10 |
PriceChild | unfo: he *wanted* to be banned | 22:10 |
danbh_family | If I may say so, Gnea can be an arrogant prick | 22:10 |
stdin | danbh_family: there's no need for that | 22:10 |
danbh_family | well, he uses ubottu to intimidate people, and Martiini was just scared | 22:11 |
stdin | scary, ubottu? who knew | 22:13 |
unfo | which ubottu factoids are intimidating? | 22:14 |
unfo | maybe they should be changed | 22:14 |
stdin | I don't think any are, unless anyone can point out the one(s) | 22:15 |
stdin | all I saw used was !offtopic | 22:15 |
stdin | oh, and !language | 22:16 |
PriceChild | accused of using ubottu to intimidate | 22:19 |
PriceChild | not necessarily that ubottu is intimidating | 22:19 |
* jussi01 cant sleep | 22:26 | |
stdin | try watching snooker, that always puts me to sleep ;) | 22:27 |
PriceChild | jussi01: probably because of the guilt after trying to pretend you're an aussie for so long | 22:27 |
jussi01 | PriceChild: heheh... Im still an aussie | 22:27 |
jussi01 | PriceChild: you finished doing what you said you would? :D | 22:28 |
PriceChild | If its what I think it is, I'm afraid its still waiting on me I believe. | 22:29 |
PriceChild | But I'm almost done. | 22:29 |
jussi01 | great :) | 22:29 |
jussi01 | unfo: anything else we can help you with? | 22:30 |
jussi01 | !idle | unfo | 22:33 |
ubottu | unfo: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. | 22:33 |
Myrtti | hi folks | 22:36 |
Myrtti | anything intresting going on? | 22:36 |
jussi01 | Myrtti: bed you. :P | 22:39 |
Myrtti | am in bed | 22:39 |
Myrtti | shuddup | 22:39 |
Myrtti | oh oh | 22:39 |
Myrtti | damn, now I forgot, no wait | 22:39 |
Myrtti | YAY I've got my 770 back! | 22:40 |
Mez | w00t | 22:56 |
Mez | got my phone back finally. | 22:56 |
jdong | haha, Picipod | 22:58 |
Myrtti | makes me think of butterflies | 22:58 |
Myrtti | and POKEMON! | 22:58 |
Picipod | I'm actually on Mibbit. but the nick is on my account | 22:58 |
ompaul | Mez, where you been the last couple of weeks | 22:58 |
ompaul | Picipod, get back into the factory | 22:59 |
Picipod | Yes sir! | 22:59 |
ompaul | so you has two identities me seez | 22:59 |
* ompaul dances the dance of the bewildered | 23:00 | |
Picipod | Yeah, I don't feel like downloading puTTY on my Dad's computer | 23:00 |
jdong | :) | 23:00 |
ompaul | 45k? | 23:00 |
Mez | ompual, started a new job - been trying to get back into the swing of working night shifts, been extremely busy, and this is like - the first spare time I've really had (after spending about 3 hours putting all 200 phone numbers back in my phone manually, because samsung PC studio didnt want to import the csv it created. | 23:00 |
ompaul | ohh | 23:01 |
ompaul | enjoying it? | 23:01 |
Mez | Samsung PC Studio? | 23:01 |
ompaul | work | 23:01 |
* ompaul tickles Mez under chin gotcha | 23:02 | |
Mez | yes and no. It's the same old shit, but for some reason - this place I actually seem to be able to talk to people. | 23:02 |
Mez | Whereas the last time I did this job I'd sit on my break with 4 other people and just get ignored... :( | 23:02 |
ompaul | ack | 23:03 |
* Mez shrugs. So I'm enjoying it. | 23:03 | |
Mez | Though... to be fair ... right now - I've just remembered I bought "watchmen" earlier... wanna go and read it | 23:04 |
Picipod | Mez: Its quite good, but time flies if you try to read it all in one sitting ;) | 23:04 |
ompaul | Mez, enjoy it all | 23:05 |
ompaul | cheers | 23:05 |
* Myrtti goes back to watch anime | 23:05 | |
Mez | Picipod, well, I had to buy it, cause it's the new cover version | 23:07 |
Mez | I tell you what though - the movie looks amazing ;) | 23:08 |
Mez | I'm so going to go see that at the iMax | 23:08 |
Mez | ompaul, enjoy it all? work? or watchmen ? | 23:08 |
ompaul | all | 23:08 |
ompaul | no point in having any of it bad | 23:08 |
Myrtti | smells oddly like cocoa butter... hmm | 23:13 |
ompaul | TiredWolf, your a howl - after the day I had today this is as bad as it gets :) | 23:14 |
ompaul | you're sorry | 23:14 |
ompaul | ahhh no I is sorry | 23:14 |
ompaul | arrrrrrrr | 23:14 |
* ompaul head desks | 23:14 | |
TiredWolf | Ompaul: the english language is hating you | 23:15 |
ompaul | TiredWolf, that and I need about 48 hours sleep :) | 23:15 |
Mez | ... per day | 23:16 |
ompaul | heh | 23:16 |
ompaul | cd /home/time | 23:16 |
ompaul | cd day | 23:16 |
ompaul | ls | 23:16 |
ompaul | hmm | 23:16 |
ompaul | cd .. | 23:16 |
TiredWolf | can it be any worse than here? I'm in a pub with two people playing droughts, another two tilting an ipod touch for some accelerometer game, and me joining irc | 23:17 |
ompaul | bzip2 48hours.bz2 48hours/ ; mv 48hours.bz2 day/. | 23:18 |
ompaul | TiredWolf, yes lots, your day seems positively enchanting, real people, not machines | 23:18 |
TiredWolf | ompaul: that's stupid. You should put each hour in a separate file, tar them, and then zip the tarball | 23:19 |
Picipod | I didn't get to eat lunch today, was trying to test something for a deadline :/ | 23:19 |
TiredWolf | uhm, except the ipod and the phone i'm using to irc? | 23:19 |
TiredWolf | meh | 23:20 |
TiredWolf | i talk about ipods... | 23:20 |
ompaul | TiredWolf, I has 36hours/ 48hours/ 72hours/ etc all the way for a month | 23:20 |
ompaul | rockbox | 23:20 |
* ompaul yawns | 23:20 | |
Myrtti | TiredWolf: I was just in a pub, two other talking about getting alcohol poisoning | 23:20 |
Myrtti | and I was so bored I decided to IRC and left home before midnight | 23:21 |
TiredWolf | myrtti: alcohol poisoging, that,s an idea | 23:21 |
Myrtti | apparently quite easy one too | 23:21 |
Mez | :) | 23:22 |
Myrtti | one pint of koskenkorva and some cranberries | 23:22 |
ompaul | night | 23:22 |
TiredWolf | well that's the worst thing. I can't go home because i came with the metro | 23:22 |
TiredWolf | the silly environmentalist that i am | 23:22 |
TiredWolf | (not really, i just know what finding parking is like here) | 23:23 |
TiredWolf | aha, use mibbit, you locked device user | 23:30 |
TiredWolf | i get a real irc client | 23:30 |
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