[00:06] Currently ubottu can be told to private message someone who is not in the channel. Why is this? [00:07] shouldn't it be able to? [00:08] I don't think so. Somebody who doesn't even share a channel with the bot should not have to worry about being annoyed by it. [00:08] More urgently, does it do anything to prevent factoids to be sent to nickserv, chanserv, etc? [00:08] so should someone not in a channel with another user "not have to worry about being annoyed by" them? [00:09] because an unlucky factoid could cause a security vulnerability, like if any factoids start with "unlink" or something [00:09] Seeker`: I would argue that PMs from users are different from PMs from bots. [00:09] Seeker`: A bot is there to help me when I need it. I see no reason a bot should initiate a conversation. [00:09] the bot doesn't automatically PM someone, a user has to tell it to PM someone [00:10] lizzie: it always prefixes the message with " wants you to know, ...". so you know who it's from and it can't do anything with nick/chanserv [00:10] stdin: good point, I didn't think of that [00:10] * lizzie wonders if the nickname "unlink" is in use on freenode [00:12] lizzie: what is the problem with "unlink"? [00:13] Seeker`: sorry, I meant "ungroup" [00:13] See, someone could log in as "ungroup", and then ask the bot to PM a factoid to nickserv. [00:13] which would then attempt to drop every word in the factoid as a nickname, possibly including the bot's own name in several factoids. [00:16] doesn't it still need a password? [00:16] apparently not [00:17] !fixed > lizzie [00:17] lizzie, please see my private message [00:18] group just links additional nicknames to the account [00:18] ungroup will drop associated nicknames, but not the original account [00:19] stdin: er, should have messaged you in this channel [00:19] stdin: I can still get private messages sent to people who aren't here. [00:19] PMs to another channel are still on, I don't see the point in disabling it (it's a useful feature) [00:19] lizzie: telling the bot to send messages to people who aren't in channels is potentially useful [00:19] but it'll surround the nick with < and > [00:20] stdin: Ah, I see, that does help security then [00:21] we often use '!bot > user' from here when someone in, say #ubuntu, starts speaking to the bot as if it's a person [00:22] it saves channel spam and is a little less embarrassing to the user [00:31] like someone whispering "you're fat" at the opera. [00:31] * mneptok has no idea what that means [01:11] stdin: I can't imagine how it could possibly not be embarassing :P [01:11] !bot >lizzie [01:11] lizzie, please see my private message [01:12] * lizzie considers PMing people and claiming to be a bot next time they try to hit on me on IRC [02:01] "365 Ways to Enhacne Your Love Life" [02:01] nothing says "love life" like acne. [02:10] now my cv is almost done [02:13] nini kids [02:22] who is this HostMark guy? He is annoying [02:23] HostMark | I will do don't worry, im here to make sure chat runs [02:23] smoothly and nicely :) [03:17] mneptok: acne scars might be an improvement for some [04:57] anyone awake with -ot ops? [04:58] Flannel: aye [05:04] * mneptok commutes [05:04] bbiab [05:04] :) [05:09] Alright, anyone else? [05:37] Flannel: yes? [05:37] * nalioth looks at the time stamps and hopes there's still not a problem . . . [05:38] nalioth: not anymore, nope. [05:38] looking at the channel would have been useful too [05:39] elky_work: Hmmm? [05:42] than looking at the time stamp and hoping someone'd give the green light [05:44] yeah, i typed before i looked [06:49] In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !want is DO NOT WANT [06:50] Daisuke_Ido called the ops in #kubuntu (freeRag) [06:51] DO NOT WANT [07:27] * Madpilot wonders when ubottu replaced nalioth's brain [07:29] Madpilot: what are you, kidding? ubottu IS my brain MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA [07:30] must be interesting, having a brain lots of people can edit :) [07:30] it was more interesting when s/lots of people/everyone/ [08:22] @reload Encyclopedia [08:22] The operation succeeded. [08:22] !info acroread medibuntu [08:34] !info acroread medibuntu | jussi01 [08:34] jussi01: acroread (source: acroread): Adobe Reader - binary files - Medibuntu package. In component non-free, is extra. Version 8.1.2.su1-0.0medibuntu0.8.04.1 (medibuntu), package size 28851 kB, installed size 72172 kB (Only available for amd64 i386) [08:36] :D [10:22] I accidentaly submitted the factoid-request "norsk" to ubot5, please ignore the request, sorry for the inconvenience [10:24] SlimG: no probs :) [10:24] SlimG: anything else we can do for you? [10:26] No, I'm pleased :) thanks jussi01 [10:27] SlimG: could I ask you to please take note of /topic then? :) [10:28] !idle | SlimG [10:28] SlimG: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [10:29] I got to get better at reading topics [10:56] DJones called the ops in #ubuntu (panhack (Spamming his website - Did the same thing yesterday)) [11:08] Is there a system for translating the factoid-bots into ex.: norwegian ? [11:08] s/factoid-bots/factoid-db/ [11:09] SlimG: usually its done manually - some locos run their own bots. [11:10] SlimG: the bot source is available if you want to "roll your own" [11:10] mkay, thanks for your help, again :) [11:12] if only supybot would use gettext... [11:12] or if there would be a way to translate the messages into gettext format and back [11:14] If I were to setup a norwegian factoid-bot on #ubuntu-no, Do you provide a server to run the bot on? or do we need to setup the bot on our own server? [11:15] you do need to get your own server as ours runs on our personal servers too [11:16] mkay [11:22] jussi01: do you still have Laku&Aleksi&Tuhina -video up in the net? [11:23] hrm [11:23] or should I host it? [11:23] I can, if you don't mind [11:27] Myrtti: http://jussi01.com/upload/uploads/20080628-130935-19062008015.mp4 [11:27] Had to find it again [11:28] and I found it too with the logs :-D [11:29] !botclone > SlimG [15:21] Is something wrong with ubottu? It doesn't seem to respond to /msg [15:23] works for me. [15:24] !test [15:24] sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed. [15:24] Did you just try a bunch of invalid commands in a row? [15:28] hrm. [15:28] !find vimtutor [15:28] File vimtutor found in Use, of, uninitialized, value, in (and 32 others) [15:30] I should really change that message... [15:30] lol [15:30] :) [15:30] @search encyclopedia [15:30] supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.public, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.database, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.packagelookup, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.relaychannel, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.notfoundmsg, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.prefixchar, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.searchorder, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.datadir, supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.aptdir, (1 more message) [15:30] @config supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.notfoundmsg [15:30] Sorry, I don't know anything about %s [15:30] hrm [15:31] !search vimtutor [15:31] Found: vimtutor [15:31] >:( [15:32] oh, wait, thats !search, not !find [15:32] yeah [15:32] stdin: any ideas? [15:33] the bot responds to me, stilly doing it soundray? [15:33] !msgthebot [15:33] Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubottu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. [15:34] pft [15:34] you're silly bunch [15:34] oh shaddup you :P [15:34] I love you all [15:34] we had two visitors preaching gentoo in #ubuntu today by the way [15:34] the more silly you are, the more I love you [15:41] jrib: I was giving it the wrong triggers apparently. It won't respond to either 'source' or 'help', even once the private chat is open. [15:48] http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/05/10/life-is-not-fair/ ♥ [15:53] In #ubuntu, soundray said: ubottu, no, en =~ s/english/English/ [15:53] :) [15:54] !en ~= /english/English/ [15:54] I'll remember that Myrtti [15:55] nooo, they be takin my karot [15:56] Oh, so it's that way round [15:57] ubottu: ping [15:57] ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore [15:57] hmmm [15:57] jrib: I have him in PM. His ident is root, they have that banned. [15:58] ah [16:01] jrib: ubottu factoids for "help" and "source" appear to exist, but they are empty [16:02] !help [16:02] Hi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [16:02] !source [16:02] You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html [16:02] hm? [16:03] soundray: when I ask ubottu in a pm he gives me supybot responses (maybe because I am registered with ubottu?) [16:04] My source is at http://supybot.com/ for example is what I get for "source" [16:04] soundray: !source seems to work in a query with him though [16:04] soundray: help is also a supybot command. Use !help if you mean to invoke the factoid. [16:06] same with !search [16:11] I see, that explains it. Thank you! [16:15] hi, I changed my connection port to 8001, but I'm still banned from #ubuntu [16:15] nomoa: did you ask the bots to test you? [16:16] no? [16:16] nomoa: it should tell you how to do so in the wiki page the topic links you to [16:17] or in the actual topic even [16:17] ah ok, please forgive me... sorry :) [16:17] no problem nomoa [16:56] soundray called the ops in #ubuntu (hal_v2 abuse) [16:57] done it [17:02] Myrtti: direct personal insults should lead to a kickban in my view [17:02] soundray: got the eye on him [17:05] soundray: not all of the users are knowledgeable in the code of conduct and what's expected of them. it's always a good idea to mediate before kickbanning, which may result into escalating the situation instead of calming it down [17:06] although it should be noted he's been banned before [17:06] true [17:06] he seems good now [17:07] but I prefer to give the users who misbehave enough slack rope to hang themselves, if they feel like it - or to save themselves [17:07] it was a rude off the cuff comment, just seemed better to see if he was a genuine issue or a slip of the tounge in frustation [17:32] Always better to kick once in warning before a ban. Warning shot across the bow, so to speak. [17:34] and even better to ask to stop before kicking, in my opinion [17:36] I asked - he stopped [17:36] * Myrtti huggles ikonia [17:37] * ikonia returns to the recording studio [17:37] laters [17:38] actually, it's raining, so maybe not [17:44] society is already breaking down here [17:46] good manners are the first to go [17:57] nalioth: society already broke down a long time ago... [17:57] jussi01: to fix !find (file search, not package search) I think it needs a restart :/ [17:58] :/ [17:59] jussi01: no, we're having a hurricane here [17:59] and the media has society wound up really tight [18:00] nalioth: ahh, yeah, you are in southern usa iirc [18:00] jussi01: i am in Houston, Texas. [18:00] yep [19:27] !test [19:27] sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed. [19:28] hmm [19:29] I wonder if renaming @search to something may be a good idea. Or maybe I'm just the only one that searches for stuff on the bot. [19:29] because you dont need to use the prefix in /msg [19:33] Pici: but if you do use the prefix, then you are fine [19:33] jussio1: yep [19:33] Thats why I said 'I wonder', instead of harshly demanding it. [19:34] hehe... [19:34] harsh demands get directed to /dev/null [19:40] Pici: @search is built-in to supybot, so that would be non-trivial [19:41] stdin: as is the rename command [19:41] @help rename [19:41] (rename ) -- Renames in to the . [19:41] Or are you saying that its not a command that you can even rename? [19:42] you know, I've never tried ;) [19:43] ok, that actually does work [19:44] * stdin give Pici the "Pointing out something which should be obvious to stdin but wasn't for some reason" award :D [19:44] yay [19:44] ubottu: rename Config search csearch [19:44] The operation succeeded. [19:44] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [19:44] there we go [19:44] Thanks :) [19:46] PriceChild: I should have asked him those questions before, I guess I assumed too much. [19:47] Pici: If I had a penny for all the times "I could have...". [20:18] It may be prudent to keep an eye on Martiini in #ubuntu-devel. He was muted in #ubuntu the other day for being generally abusive, see the ban on 80-235-33-239-dsl.mus.estpak.ee in the bantracker. I need to do some deadline stuff for work, otherwise I'd watch myself. [20:19] someone with access may want to look into #ubuntu+1 Pici? [20:21] jussi01: No need for access to do something about it. [21:19] PriceChild: you are correct of course. :) [22:04] Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu (Martiini) [22:08] ignoring martiini, seeing if he gives up [22:08] asked gnea do the same [22:09] * PriceChild sighs [22:09] he even agreed to it... then gave him more attention [22:09] hi all, could you please kick or ban Martiini from #ubuntu for language [22:10] we are watching, please just ignore him for now [22:10] btw Martiini mentions they "always get banned"... odd... why does a single ban not work? [22:10] stdin: ok [22:10] unfo: I don't know if he has been banned for not. [22:10] unfo: he was also complaining whilst not being banned. [22:10] unfo: he *wanted* to be banned [22:10] If I may say so, Gnea can be an arrogant prick [22:10] danbh_family: there's no need for that [22:11] well, he uses ubottu to intimidate people, and Martiini was just scared [22:13] scary, ubottu? who knew [22:14] which ubottu factoids are intimidating? [22:14] maybe they should be changed [22:15] I don't think any are, unless anyone can point out the one(s) [22:15] all I saw used was !offtopic [22:16] oh, and !language [22:19] accused of using ubottu to intimidate [22:19] not necessarily that ubottu is intimidating [22:26] * jussi01 cant sleep [22:27] try watching snooker, that always puts me to sleep ;) [22:27] jussi01: probably because of the guilt after trying to pretend you're an aussie for so long [22:27] PriceChild: heheh... Im still an aussie [22:28] PriceChild: you finished doing what you said you would? :D [22:29] If its what I think it is, I'm afraid its still waiting on me I believe. [22:29] But I'm almost done. [22:29] great :) [22:30] unfo: anything else we can help you with? [22:33] !idle | unfo [22:33] unfo: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [22:36] hi folks [22:36] anything intresting going on? [22:39] Myrtti: bed you. :P [22:39] am in bed [22:39] shuddup [22:39] oh oh [22:39] damn, now I forgot, no wait [22:40] YAY I've got my 770 back! [22:56] w00t [22:56] got my phone back finally. [22:58] haha, Picipod [22:58] makes me think of butterflies [22:58] and POKEMON! [22:58] I'm actually on Mibbit. but the nick is on my account [22:58] Mez, where you been the last couple of weeks [22:59] Picipod, get back into the factory [22:59] Yes sir! [22:59] so you has two identities me seez [23:00] * ompaul dances the dance of the bewildered [23:00] Yeah, I don't feel like downloading puTTY on my Dad's computer [23:00] :) [23:00] 45k? [23:00] ompual, started a new job - been trying to get back into the swing of working night shifts, been extremely busy, and this is like - the first spare time I've really had (after spending about 3 hours putting all 200 phone numbers back in my phone manually, because samsung PC studio didnt want to import the csv it created. [23:01] ohh [23:01] enjoying it? [23:01] Samsung PC Studio? [23:01] work [23:02] * ompaul tickles Mez under chin gotcha [23:02] yes and no. It's the same old shit, but for some reason - this place I actually seem to be able to talk to people. [23:02] Whereas the last time I did this job I'd sit on my break with 4 other people and just get ignored... :( [23:03] ack [23:03] * Mez shrugs. So I'm enjoying it. [23:04] Though... to be fair ... right now - I've just remembered I bought "watchmen" earlier... wanna go and read it [23:04] Mez: Its quite good, but time flies if you try to read it all in one sitting ;) [23:05] Mez, enjoy it all [23:05] cheers [23:05] * Myrtti goes back to watch anime [23:07] Picipod, well, I had to buy it, cause it's the new cover version [23:08] I tell you what though - the movie looks amazing ;) [23:08] I'm so going to go see that at the iMax [23:08] ompaul, enjoy it all? work? or watchmen ? [23:08] all [23:08] no point in having any of it bad [23:13] smells oddly like cocoa butter... hmm [23:14] TiredWolf, your a howl - after the day I had today this is as bad as it gets :) [23:14] you're sorry [23:14] ahhh no I is sorry [23:14] arrrrrrrr [23:14] * ompaul head desks [23:15] Ompaul: the english language is hating you [23:15] TiredWolf, that and I need about 48 hours sleep :) [23:16] ... per day [23:16] heh [23:16] cd /home/time [23:16] cd day [23:16] ls [23:16] hmm [23:16] cd .. [23:17] can it be any worse than here? I'm in a pub with two people playing droughts, another two tilting an ipod touch for some accelerometer game, and me joining irc [23:18] bzip2 48hours.bz2 48hours/ ; mv 48hours.bz2 day/. [23:18] TiredWolf, yes lots, your day seems positively enchanting, real people, not machines [23:19] ompaul: that's stupid. You should put each hour in a separate file, tar them, and then zip the tarball [23:19] I didn't get to eat lunch today, was trying to test something for a deadline :/ [23:19] uhm, except the ipod and the phone i'm using to irc? [23:20] meh [23:20] i talk about ipods... [23:20] TiredWolf, I has 36hours/ 48hours/ 72hours/ etc all the way for a month [23:20] rockbox [23:20] * ompaul yawns [23:20] TiredWolf: I was just in a pub, two other talking about getting alcohol poisoning [23:21] and I was so bored I decided to IRC and left home before midnight [23:21] myrtti: alcohol poisoging, that,s an idea [23:21] apparently quite easy one too [23:22] :) [23:22] one pint of koskenkorva and some cranberries [23:22] night [23:22] well that's the worst thing. I can't go home because i came with the metro [23:22] the silly environmentalist that i am [23:23] (not really, i just know what finding parking is like here) [23:30] aha, use mibbit, you locked device user [23:30] i get a real irc client