/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/09/11/#ubuntu-website.txt

hubuntuthe wiki.ubuntu.com site seems to be down00:18
hubuntua Proxy error00:18
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qensehello09:28
hubuntuhei qense09:28
hubuntunewz2000, I got a 404.html template does not exist under webapps12:17
hubuntuhttp://webapps.ubuntu.com/marketplace/latinamerica/ecuador/12:17
qensehello18:32
thorwilnewz2000: do you happen to know how to batch-flatten png images (remove alpha)?18:46
newz2000well, one way to do it is in inkscape, before you export, draw a huge white rectangle behind everything18:46
thorwiloh :)18:47
newz2000if you've already exported then it shouldn't be too hard to create  alittle python script that does the same thing to the individual pngs18:48
thorwilwell, i found an imagemagick line, but the resulting files are larger!18:49
newz2000yeah, I have that problem with imagemagick... it's not as good at optimizing18:49
newz2000try pngcrush on one of them post-processed images18:49
thorwilwill do. trying to use gimp script-fu is a disaster so far :)18:54
newz2000yeah, I've not had great luck with that either18:59
thorwilpngcrush gets a little more out of it than gimp19:03
thorwilusing  pngcrush -c 2 -reduce19:04
thorwilnewz2000: the largest file is 16 KB now. i hope that's acceptable, as this is tough material, having gradients and flat color with sharp edges19:05
newz2000that should be ok, would you mind trying one as an 8bit png though?19:05
newz2000if it works we'll script it and convert the rest19:06
newz2000use your judgement if you think it provides useful results. Sometimes it gives a nearly unnoticable change in the image but cuts the size to 1/3rd19:06
thorwilnewz2000: seems to work with 256 colors for said largest image. actually, the A series asks for indexing19:10
newz2000it looks ok?19:10
newz2000hey, it looks like I have an email regarding your image... just a sec19:11
newz2000it looks like the favs are col 1 and 319:12
newz2000the "brand identity" person likes #3 the most19:13
thorwilnewz2000: on first look, no difference. on a second look, there is slight color-banding19:13
newz2000what is the diff in filesize?19:13
thorwil16 to 8.219:13
newz2000I think its worth it19:13
newz2000(imho)19:13
thorwilnewz2000: i would lean more towards col 3, but only because of the last image19:15
newz2000I think that's where she's leaning too, but the marketing director says we should offer people both, are you OK with that?19:16
thorwilnewz2000: yes. i would even like to also offer col 4. it would be an interesting experiment to see which one gets picked most :)19:17
newz2000yes, we should track that, but in a way that won't tax our system or invade site's (and their users') privacy19:18
thorwilnewz2000: oh, wait, col 3 yes but col 5 not?19:18
newz2000maybe turn it into a little form and they submit it to choose which one they'll use on their site19:18
* newz2000 confirms19:18
newz2000they said col 3 is the fav and we should offer a white background too19:19
newz2000col 5 is your fav?19:20
thorwilnope, 419:20
newz2000I forgot to mention how the bg gets lighter successively. Let me run that by them, they might think it's cool and change their mind19:20
thorwilnewz2000: i will put up the current set in an hour or so19:21
thorwiljust slight fixes and a tweaked ibex19:21
newz2000ok19:22
thorwilnewz2000: then i would like to send you the files19:22
thorwilbut now for a break :)19:22
newz2000ooh, a break sounds nice19:22
thorwilnealmcb: still glad that you like the hands countdown, but i will remove your note on the wiki as i already removed my outdated pictures. maybe the hands can return for next release+1 :)21:00
nealmcbthorwil: hmmm - sad to see a good idea disappear - perhaps it can just be titled as old, or moved to an archival page?21:01
newz2000no need to delete it from the page, leave it for posterity sake21:02
thorwilnealmcb: fear not, for it sleeps in my archive21:02
thorwilnewz2000: too late21:02
nealmcbeasy to revert on the wiki21:02
newz2000even deleting attachments?21:02
thorwilno idea about reverting deletes21:03
thorwilok, if you want, i'll readd just the hands by tomorrow21:03
newz2000its your call21:03
newz2000but if its is up there some day, someone will look at it and be inspired21:04
thorwilnewz2000: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/IntrepidCountdownBanners?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=tw_intrepid_countdown_06_spiral.png21:04
newz2000oh yeah, clicking links in pidgin works again21:04
newz2000did you move the ibex's leg?21:05
thorwilnewz2000: i moved various nodes, including of the legs21:05
newz2000it looks good21:06
thorwilthanks!21:06
thorwilnewz2000: may i mail you a 3.4 mb archive?21:06
newz2000yes, sure. go to newz@bearfruit.org21:06
thorwilnewz2000: send. PNGs in there are not indexed, all lossless. especially the A series can be indexed with fewer than 128 colors, but my eyes are too tired to care about that now. also included scrip an notes, as they might be useful in the next run :)21:10
newz2000cool, I look forward to getting them21:11
thorwilapachelogger: interested in an updated SVG?21:12
thorwilapachelogger: well, ask newz2000 if you do :)21:15
thorwilgood night! :)21:15
Robb_Mhey where can i report a bug against the ubuntu website? i forgot the link....i found a typo in a link on http://www.ubuntu.com/support/communitysupport (red link at top "The gift of knowledge"  has "desktop trainingin september" there should be a space in there.)21:44
* newz2000 looks21:45
* newz2000 smacks his head21:46
Robb_Mjust making you aware :)21:46
newz2000thanks Robb_M no need to file a bug, I'll correct it asap21:46
Robb_MI had to read it like 6 times man.21:46
Robb_MI didnt see it either till i really read it.21:46
Robb_Mheh21:46
newz2000fixed21:50
Robb_Mawesome21:51
Robb_Myeah its fixed on this end as well :)21:51

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