[00:18] <hubuntu> the wiki.ubuntu.com site seems to be down
[00:18] <hubuntu> a Proxy error
[09:28] <qense> hello
[09:28] <hubuntu> hei qense
[12:17] <hubuntu> newz2000, I got a 404.html template does not exist under webapps
[12:17] <hubuntu> http://webapps.ubuntu.com/marketplace/latinamerica/ecuador/
[18:32] <qense> hello
[18:46] <thorwil> newz2000: do you happen to know how to batch-flatten png images (remove alpha)?
[18:46] <newz2000> well, one way to do it is in inkscape, before you export, draw a huge white rectangle behind everything
[18:47] <thorwil> oh :)
[18:48] <newz2000> if you've already exported then it shouldn't be too hard to create  alittle python script that does the same thing to the individual pngs
[18:49] <thorwil> well, i found an imagemagick line, but the resulting files are larger!
[18:49] <newz2000> yeah, I have that problem with imagemagick... it's not as good at optimizing
[18:49] <newz2000> try pngcrush on one of them post-processed images
[18:54] <thorwil> will do. trying to use gimp script-fu is a disaster so far :)
[18:59] <newz2000> yeah, I've not had great luck with that either
[19:03] <thorwil> pngcrush gets a little more out of it than gimp
[19:04] <thorwil> using  pngcrush -c 2 -reduce
[19:05] <thorwil> newz2000: the largest file is 16 KB now. i hope that's acceptable, as this is tough material, having gradients and flat color with sharp edges
[19:05] <newz2000> that should be ok, would you mind trying one as an 8bit png though?
[19:06] <newz2000> if it works we'll script it and convert the rest
[19:06] <newz2000> use your judgement if you think it provides useful results. Sometimes it gives a nearly unnoticable change in the image but cuts the size to 1/3rd
[19:10] <thorwil> newz2000: seems to work with 256 colors for said largest image. actually, the A series asks for indexing
[19:10] <newz2000> it looks ok?
[19:11] <newz2000> hey, it looks like I have an email regarding your image... just a sec
[19:12] <newz2000> it looks like the favs are col 1 and 3
[19:13] <newz2000> the "brand identity" person likes #3 the most
[19:13] <thorwil> newz2000: on first look, no difference. on a second look, there is slight color-banding
[19:13] <newz2000> what is the diff in filesize?
[19:13] <thorwil> 16 to 8.2
[19:13] <newz2000> I think its worth it
[19:13] <newz2000> (imho)
[19:15] <thorwil> newz2000: i would lean more towards col 3, but only because of the last image
[19:16] <newz2000> I think that's where she's leaning too, but the marketing director says we should offer people both, are you OK with that?
[19:17] <thorwil> newz2000: yes. i would even like to also offer col 4. it would be an interesting experiment to see which one gets picked most :)
[19:18] <newz2000> yes, we should track that, but in a way that won't tax our system or invade site's (and their users') privacy
[19:18] <thorwil> newz2000: oh, wait, col 3 yes but col 5 not?
[19:18] <newz2000> maybe turn it into a little form and they submit it to choose which one they'll use on their site
[19:18]  * newz2000 confirms
[19:19] <newz2000> they said col 3 is the fav and we should offer a white background too
[19:20] <newz2000> col 5 is your fav?
[19:20] <thorwil> nope, 4
[19:20] <newz2000> I forgot to mention how the bg gets lighter successively. Let me run that by them, they might think it's cool and change their mind
[19:21] <thorwil> newz2000: i will put up the current set in an hour or so
[19:21] <thorwil> just slight fixes and a tweaked ibex
[19:22] <newz2000> ok
[19:22] <thorwil> newz2000: then i would like to send you the files
[19:22] <thorwil> but now for a break :)
[19:22] <newz2000> ooh, a break sounds nice
[21:00] <thorwil> nealmcb: still glad that you like the hands countdown, but i will remove your note on the wiki as i already removed my outdated pictures. maybe the hands can return for next release+1 :)
[21:01] <nealmcb> thorwil: hmmm - sad to see a good idea disappear - perhaps it can just be titled as old, or moved to an archival page?
[21:02] <newz2000> no need to delete it from the page, leave it for posterity sake
[21:02] <thorwil> nealmcb: fear not, for it sleeps in my archive
[21:02] <thorwil> newz2000: too late
[21:02] <nealmcb> easy to revert on the wiki
[21:02] <newz2000> even deleting attachments?
[21:03] <thorwil> no idea about reverting deletes
[21:03] <thorwil> ok, if you want, i'll readd just the hands by tomorrow
[21:03] <newz2000> its your call
[21:04] <newz2000> but if its is up there some day, someone will look at it and be inspired
[21:04] <thorwil> newz2000: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/IntrepidCountdownBanners?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=tw_intrepid_countdown_06_spiral.png
[21:04] <newz2000> oh yeah, clicking links in pidgin works again
[21:05] <newz2000> did you move the ibex's leg?
[21:05] <thorwil> newz2000: i moved various nodes, including of the legs
[21:06] <newz2000> it looks good
[21:06] <thorwil> thanks!
[21:06] <thorwil> newz2000: may i mail you a 3.4 mb archive?
[21:06] <newz2000> yes, sure. go to newz@bearfruit.org
[21:10] <thorwil> newz2000: send. PNGs in there are not indexed, all lossless. especially the A series can be indexed with fewer than 128 colors, but my eyes are too tired to care about that now. also included scrip an notes, as they might be useful in the next run :)
[21:11] <newz2000> cool, I look forward to getting them
[21:12] <thorwil> apachelogger: interested in an updated SVG?
[21:15] <thorwil> apachelogger: well, ask newz2000 if you do :)
[21:15] <thorwil> good night! :)
[21:44] <Robb_M> hey where can i report a bug against the ubuntu website? i forgot the link....i found a typo in a link on http://www.ubuntu.com/support/communitysupport (red link at top "The gift of knowledge"  has "desktop trainingin september" there should be a space in there.)
[21:45]  * newz2000 looks
[21:46]  * newz2000 smacks his head
[21:46] <Robb_M> just making you aware :)
[21:46] <newz2000> thanks Robb_M no need to file a bug, I'll correct it asap
[21:46] <Robb_M> I had to read it like 6 times man.
[21:46] <Robb_M> I didnt see it either till i really read it.
[21:46] <Robb_M> heh
[21:50] <newz2000> fixed
[21:51] <Robb_M> awesome
[21:51] <Robb_M> yeah its fixed on this end as well :)