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sammino	ya i am trying to get a good search result but everything is returning dual boot with windows as first install	00:00
DIFH-iceroot	solexious: mailx	00:00
danbhfive	flip: so, what have you tried to get it working?	00:00
emma	!lol > alexbobp	00:00
flip	danbhfive: honestly? dist-upgrade; reboot	00:01
Ahmed-Alaa	sammino: you dont need to install any thing if your pc supports dual boot	00:01
flip	danbhfive: im totally new to ubuntu --- but a long time linux user; though not on a laptop; im just unframiliar on how to connect	00:01
flip	danbhfive: i may have support for all i know? the ubuntu network manager only shows my wired connection	00:01
danbhfive	flip: well, it looks like its either madwifi, or ndiswrapper for your wifi card	00:01
flip	which SUCKS because the windows driver is really tough to extract	00:02
sammino	ahmed, so if i want to dual boot and install windows after my ubuntu, i assume i resize the drive then change grub and install.. which is the instructions i am looking for :)	00:02
danbhfive	flip: since I just tried madwifi on my own card, and it was SUPPOSED to work, but failed, I suggest the windows driver	00:02
balz	sammino: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm	00:03
DIFH-iceroot	is there a way to block some ports if i CANT use iptables (because of vserver)	00:03
Ahmed-Alaa	:D	00:03
lizzie	Why is ubottu able to be told to send unsolicited private messages to people who are not in the channel?	00:04
sammino	thanks	00:04
lyk3n	DIFH-iceroot firestarter is a free firewall	00:04
danbhfive	lizzie: are you sure its happening? if so, try your question in #ubuntu-ops maybe	00:04
DIFH-iceroot	lyk3n: thank you, i will look at it	00:04
flip	danbhfive: you dont think the ipw3945 drive is worth a shot?	00:05
lizzie	danbhfive: danbhfive I'm sure it's happening	00:05
lizzie	danbhfive: emma just got ubottu to PM alexbobp	00:06
lizzie	I'll ask in that channel, thanks	00:06
balz	sammino: np	00:06
balz	lyk3n: firestarter is a frontend for iptables	00:06
Finiras	help.. my wireless internet doesn't work anymore while i selected the right protocol and password. it just keeps asking for the password as if its wrong	00:06
balz	DIFH-iceroot: i believe firestarter is a frontend for iptables... so if you can't use iptables, i don't know if firestarter can help	00:07
Ahmed-Alaa	ppl my wireless work good without any drivers but i send email to D-link support and get driver for linux the driver name is "madwifi" what i get if i install it ??	00:07
slashjamiec	mornin' all :)	00:07
Ahmed-Alaa	hi	00:08
DIFH-iceroot	balz: ah ok	00:08
danbhfive	flip: well, it looks like you still need to get a binary blob. I don't suggest it simply because I don't quite understand the directions im looking at. I don't understand these "external" drivers, that aren't in the kernel already, but you can still install them. Half free, half closed source, all beta? I say, screw it, ndiswrapper : )	00:08
slashjamiec	Ahmed-Alaa : If it already works then you won't probably need to install the driver, although if you install madwifi, you'll get the following: "http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/madwifi/"	00:09
=== screech is now known as zapato
solvanora	is the latest ubuntu hardy?	00:10
Neon_	yep	00:10
zapato	for now, yes	00:10
solvanora	hehe ok	00:10
zapato	new releases are out ever 6 months	00:10
solvanora	they all get a nickname?	00:10
zapato	yeah they do	00:10
slashjamiec	I'm always back in the times, lol, I'm on 7.10	00:10
SebNaitsabes	solvanora: yep for now untill some time at the end of October	00:10
Neon_	Mhhmm. Intrepid will be awesome. :]	00:10
solvanora	is the next with an "I"?	00:11
SebNaitsabes	probably not that much differnet from Hardy	00:11
zapato	all ubuntu releases are named with the same pattern ie. Gutst Gibbon (GG) Hardy Heron (HH)	00:11
zapato	i think that's cool	00:11
Neon_	yup, then Intrepid Ibex and Jaunty Jackalope	00:11
zapato	and rather clever	00:11
SebNaitsabes	zapato: oh didn't reolize that, makes sense	00:11
Finiras	what happens when it reaches ZZ? :P	00:11
solvanora	yes its cool "D	00:11
slashjamiec	That's awesome, all my computers get a nickname, I use the 7 Deadly Sins nicknames, so this PC would be "superbia"	00:11
SebNaitsabes	zapto: what was the first Ubuntu called I don't remember that	00:11
Neon_	warty warthog wasn't it?	00:12
SebNaitsabes	that's what I thought	00:12
SebNaitsabes	so his pattern is wrong	00:12
zapato	SebNaitsabes: i cant honestly remember...	00:12
Finiras	oh so its not from AA to ZZ	00:12
Finiras	?	00:12
Neon_	-googles-	00:12
slashjamiec	It's on the tip of my tongue	00:12
Neon_	yess, Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog)	00:13
zapato	Warty Warthog	00:13
slashjamiec	Excellent	00:13
balz	is there a way to implement on-the-fly compression in an ubuntu filesystem?	00:13
Neon_	then breezy badger, dapper drake, edgy eft	00:13
Finiras	why does it start at 4.10	00:13
* solvanora gives genius_ a great deal (wrapped with a ribbon) of respect for his help		00:13
DIFH-iceroot	if i want a domain for my server, do i just need to point the url to my ip-adresse and write the domain in /etc/hosts ?or are there any other steps to do?	00:14
SebNaitsabes	Finiras: because they like their weird numbering system	00:14
Area_51__	if wanted to make a backup of the way i have this system how would i go about making a install disk that would load everything i have put into this distrobution	00:14
narimanmm	is it possible to change seconds of idle time in the Auto Dim future???	00:14
bobbyd	hi, it is possible (and safe) to update from 32bit ubuntu hardy to 64 bit on my core2 due machine?	00:14
slashjamiec	DIFH-iceroot : You can do it that way providing that your IP address is static	00:14
danbhfive	!clone > Area_51__	00:14
ubottu	Area_51__, please see my private message	00:14
DIFH-iceroot	slashjamiec: its static	00:14
zapato	This is a tech question coming at you guys: I just ripped a fried 330 watt power supply out of a micro tower and I need to put another one in. Now we all know that 330's suck but I need something small to fit in the micro tower. Are there any small sized 400 or 500 watts that would fit?	00:14
bobbyd	!clone > bobbyd	00:14
ubottu	bobbyd, please see my private message	00:14
slashjamiec	DIFH-iceroot : Excellent, just point your domain to your IP address from a nameserver it's hosted at and everything will work flawlessly. Easy!	00:15
Area_51__	nah if this thing crashs i just want it back the way i had it without going through everything i already went through	00:15
solvanora	330 can be quite nice, if its a proper brand	00:15
zapato	i find 330'	00:15
SuperQ	zapato: Most power supplies are far over-speced for machines	00:15
DIFH-iceroot	slashjamiec: ok, thanks	00:15
zapato	330's to be far underpowered	00:15
Area_51__	ok	00:16
hitman1985	hi at all, for a amd 3800+ x2 athlon 64 should i install 64 bit ubuntu or should i run with regular ?	00:16
SanityInFlux	over-specing a PSU can put you at a better efficiency	00:16
solvanora	i run overclocked core 2 duo (1.6->3.2ghz) and a 8800 GT on a 350 or something	00:16
SuperQ	SanityInFlux: not true	00:16
`Matir	Can anyone recommend a decent non-linear video editor for linux? I've looked at kino and cinelerra... but was wondering what others use lately.	00:16
DIFH-iceroot	so i will try that postfix can handle 2 domains :)	00:16
SanityInFlux	SuperQ: yes, true	00:16
ScheissDrogen	bobbyd: nope. do a fresh install	00:16
SuperQ	SanityInFlux: That highly depends on the efficency curve of the switching supply	00:16
zapato	Guess I'll just put another 330w in.	00:16
bellatlantic	hi	00:16
KDB9000	I have a small problem. I can live with it if there is no fix but when something get highlighted (and is the only one) I can't read the text. Anyway to change this?	00:16
zapato	I don't feel like worrying about it to much, its for a friend.	00:16
ckyle	this isn't ##hardware	00:16
SanityInFlux	SuperQ: yes, it does, and most of them run most efficiently when at 50-60% load	00:16
bobbyd	ScheissDrogen: ok :( are there generally any problems with 64 bit?	00:16
slashjamiec	KDB90000 : I think it could be an issue with your GTK+ theme	00:17
solvanora	zapato, you should use a proper brand, as i said	00:17
solvanora	i really like Antecs	00:17
SanityInFlux	is opengeu discussion valid here?	00:17
zapato	64 bit support for Ubuntu is just that. support actually exists.	00:17
narimanmm	change idle time for auto dim anyone???	00:17
solvanora	but others may differ ofc	00:17
slashjamiec	KDB90000 : If you have recently changed themes when this happened, rollback to the last one and see if that fixes it	00:17
KDB9000	slashjamiec, Is there anything I can do to fix it?	00:17
=== Neon_ is now known as Neon_lights
cyphase	wow, a lot of proposed updates today..	00:17
ScheissDrogen	bobbyd: its no so far supported as 32, but no prob to use 32apps in 64 install	00:17
zapato	solvanora: I'll go with a 330 then. save some money that way anyways	00:18
SuperQ	SanityInFlux: true	00:18
Area_51__	!automate	00:18
ubottu	Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning	00:18
ScheissDrogen	bobbyd: *not	00:18
slashjamiec	KDB90000 : Sure, http://ubuntuanswers.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/applying-gtk-themes-in-ubuntu-710/	00:18
lizzie	stdin: thanks!	00:18
lizzie	!automate > alexbobp	00:18
bobbyd	ScheissDrogen: maybe I'll stick with 32 :)	00:18
SuperQ	SanityInFlux: I just go poke around on 80plus.org	00:18
SanityInFlux	zapato: i'd look for one with a certified 80plus efficiency and be done with it	00:18
smm289	ubuntu 8.04 here, why do I not hvae a System > Administration > Shared folders selection	00:18
lizzie	stdin: that's not right, he seems to have gotten the PM	00:18
solvanora	efficiency is nice, stability is everything	00:18
smm289	its all there except for the Shared Folders option	00:18
cyphase	smm289: you can share folders from within nautilus	00:19
diamantisk	ubundu is the best	00:19
ckyle	the best wha?	00:19
ScheissDrogen	bobbyd: if you got enough space on hd, you could try 64 also, is what I'm doing	00:19
zapato	sanityinflux: I'm just going to search newegg. 80plus you say? ok, ill keep an eye out for that	00:19
ckyle	what?	00:19
zapato	thanks everyone	00:19
SanityInFlux	solvanora: they go hand in hand most of the time when power supplies are concerned	00:19
diamantisk	the best OS for pc	00:19
diamantisk	laptop	00:19
cyphase	smm289: meaning, it doesn't run the old share-folders utility, and doesn't require admin privleges	00:19
diamantisk	etc	00:19
SuperQ	zapato: Yes, 80plus.org is a great site for looking for efficient supplies	00:19
solvanora	true true	00:19
bobbyd	ScheissDrogen: just dual boot?	00:19
cyphase	smm289: try it	00:19
solvanora	yw zapato	00:19
hitman1985	ScheissDrogen, should i run the 64 bit on my 3800+ x2 ? :-)	00:19
smm289	try what	00:19
zapato	superq: awesome, thanks again	00:19
smm289	its not there	00:19
zapato	later guys	00:19
DIFH-iceroot	can i just make a mirror from a ubuntu repo with wget and can use this repo instead of ubuntu repos? so 10 computers can get updates from lan and not wan	00:20
solvanora	bb	00:20
cyphase	smm289: right click on a folder	00:20
cyphase	smm289: in nautilus	00:20
smm289	sorry did not see above folder	00:20
ScheissDrogen	bobbyd: or multiple boot... depending on space (and a will to figure it out)	00:20
SuperQ	zapato: It's also worth looking at the actual usage of your system using a kill-a-watt or watts up in-line power meter	00:20
slashjamiec	okay, time for coffee and wakeup, I will be unavailable for 10 minutes.	00:20
cyphase	smm289: and choose Sharing Options	00:20
smm289	ok, i can do the right click nautilus thing, but I think the samba server on that system has taken over the entire sharing process	00:20
smm289	the windows share works fine through samba	00:20
cyphase	smm289: what do you mean?	00:21
SanityInFlux	SuperQ: why? facts are useless :) just go with "i o/c therefore I need a 1kw"	00:21
SuperQ	zachb: For example, my dual-core AMD (5000+) with 5x SATA drives and a decent (but not insane) nvidia card uses ~120W at idle, and 230W at peak	00:21
smm289	but even if i have done the right click share options in Nautilus, my linux laptop still wants to access the share throught smb://	00:21
SuperQ	SanityInFlux: Hahaha	00:21
ScheissDrogen	bobbyd,hitman1985: its just my oppinion that 64 is still in the coming, for best reliability I would prefer 32, but 64 gets developed more and more	00:21
[Kastor]	hey there :)	00:21
cyphase	smm289: access what share? the one on your computer?	00:21
SuperQ	I use an older antec 380W PSU	00:21
smm289	file server running ubuntu 8.04, samba setup for windows clients, right click share for linux clients	00:21
hitman1985	ScheissDrogen, ok, ima stick with 32 later, i just traded my p4 2.8 against a 3800+ :0 haha	00:22
smm289	when i use the linux client to access the share I still get the smb:// in the address bar	00:22
SanityInFlux	SuperQ: and I see nothing wrong with using a 1kw on an atom	00:22
^Phantom^	Question: how much space should I give ubuntu when I do the partition	00:22
[Kastor]	could anyone please direct me to a good CPU OC software for Ubu 8.04, with at least some basic GUI?	00:22
SuperQ	SanityInFlux: :)	00:22
cyphase	smm289: yea.. because it's using the smb protocol	00:22
ScheissDrogen	bobbyd,hitman1985: it also depends on how much ram u want to use (see windows)	00:22
^Phantom^	here's my current hdd status	00:22
^Phantom^	<Drives> Fixed Drives Total:[107GB] Free:[69.4GB] Used:[37.8GB] [64.73% free] <UPP>	00:22
zachb	SuperQ: why me?	00:22
KDB9000	slashjamiec, I didn't see anything that helped me. I did all that already and checked in there to see if I can change the highlight color or something like that, didn't see anything.	00:22
SuperQ	zachb: sorry, miss-directed	00:22
zachb	oh, okay :-)	00:22
smm289	but with linux to linux sharing shouldn;t it NOT be using the samba protocol, or does it not matter	00:22
lyk3n	ScheissDrogen:dude it still didnt work	00:23
cyphase	smm289: it doesn't matter	00:23
hitman1985	ScheissDrogen, only thing im worried about is that it runs fine :P i dont care about usage too much :)	00:23
SuperQ	smm289: You get a bit more speed out of NFS, but it really doesn't matter that much	00:23
Area_51__	!cloning	00:23
ubottu	To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate	00:23
^Phantom^	I was thinking 8 or 12 gigs	00:23
^Phantom^	which would be better?	00:23
hitman1985	ScheissDrogen, but ok, i ll talk to you later again, when i get the e521 runing and ready to go :) have a good one	00:23
SanityInFlux	is nfs4 more reliable than v3 used to be?	00:23
smm289	if I don't right click share optins the linux client does not see the share under the network browse, I have to manually type in the address. So with linux to linux share the right click share option just allows it to show up in the network browse window ?	00:24
ScheissDrogen	hitman1985: use 32 then, only (very minimal) differ is at compiling whole kernel I found, see you then	00:24
^Phantom^	i will brb	00:24
smm289	<-- is new to ubuntu - 2 weeks and counting	00:24
[Kastor]	sigh.. guys? anyone? please? :)	00:24
solvanora	cpu overclock?	00:25
solvanora	why dont you use bios?	00:25
[Kastor]	yeah, on 8.04, with a GUI	00:25
cyphase	smm289: if it's shared by samba, it should show up. why do you have to manually type it in? is the address you're manually typing an smb address?	00:25
StevenX	How come I seem to have a higher resolution in Windows than in Ubuntu? There seems to be more screen real estate in Windows. It's my only real tick about Ubuntu.	00:25
[Kastor]	because it's less effective that way on my rig	00:25
solvanora	well i cant help you as im brandnew to ubuntu	00:26
solvanora	but i think its strange =]	00:26
[Kastor]	the same settings are unstable when set in BIOS, stable when set in Windows ClockGen	00:26
cyphase	StevenX: is it actually a higher resolution, or does it just seem like it is	00:26
solvanora	oh ok	00:26
solvanora	but dont trust overclock progs in windows	00:26
solvanora	they lie	00:26
[Kastor]	yeah, but cpu-z does not :D	00:26
solvanora	aye	00:26
StevenX	cyphase, I'm doing something at the moment, so I can't actually check the numbers, but if my memory serves me right, it just "seems" like its a higher resolution on Windows.	00:26
solvanora	but maybe it adjusts voltages without you knowing?	00:27
solvanora	concealing the truth is also lying	00:27
cyphase	StevenX: i have noticed this before, and how i fixed it was by changing the DPI settings in Gnome	00:27
[Kastor]	and I get 2.87Ghz stable out of my 2.1Ghz X2 4000+ (FSB 270.19), when the same on BIOS is unstable	00:27
solvanora	so my consious says when i dont tell a piggy she's fat	00:27
moghadam	is it possible to change idle time in the "auto dim LCD" feature	00:27
smm289	if I don't have a folder shared through nautilis just through samba, and im on the linux client, when i click network the file server does not show up, but if i type in the samba address the folder is displayed fine. If I have a nautilus share when I click network the file server is displayed and when I click on the icon for the server all of the shares are displayed, nautilus and samba, now when I click on the Nautilus share the folder	00:27
cyphase	StevenX: it's not really a bug, just a different setting	00:27
[Kastor]	solvanora, nope it does not	00:27
smm289	should I just ignore this and be happy I have connection	00:27
[Kastor]	cpu-z would detect that and there's no change	00:27
solvanora	strange	00:28
[Kastor]	yeah, I know	00:28
StevenX	cyphase, thank you. Know that I know what the prolem might be, I can fix it. I'll look up how to change those settings.	00:28
cyphase	smm289: the nautilus share dialog is using samba	00:28
solvanora	retarded mobo?	00:28
solvanora	brand?	00:28
cyphase	StevenX: one second	00:28
[Kastor]	DFI Infinity :D	00:28
solvanora	omg	00:28
SanityInFlux	what music players come on the livecd?	00:28
cyphase	System -> Preferences -> Appearance	00:28
[Kastor]	definitely not a retarded mobo :D	00:28
solvanora	nope	00:28
cyphase	StevenX: System -> Preferences -> Appearance	00:29
smm289	ok, I guess I will just be happy i have share access between windows clients and linux clients, I will just ignore the smb address on the linux client	00:29
Finiras	my wireless internet doesn't work anymore while i selected the right protocol and password. it just keeps asking for the password as if its wrong	00:29
[Kastor]	I think it hiccups when the settings are set all at once	00:29
[Kastor]	it might be rather my RAM giving up	00:29
alphaaa	hi	00:29
solvanora	RAM can be a bitch	00:29
cyphase	smm289: i don't understand what's wrong.. one second..	00:29
alphaaa	anyone here receiving the slashdot newsletter ?	00:29
cyphase	StevenX: then go to the Font tab	00:29
[Kastor]	but when I get them in BIOS, only FSB on defs, and then up the FSB in ClockGen, everything's fine	00:29
[Kastor]	hence, I need an OC soft for ubuntu :)	00:30
StevenX	cyphase, thanks.	00:30
l_mysterioso	slashdot, for years	00:30
solvanora	right you are	00:30
solvanora	cant help you alas	00:30
smm289	nothings really wrong, I was just thought that it was bad for two linux systems to share under samaba, and that samba was just for linux to windows	00:30
cyphase	StevenX: then the Details button at the bottom	00:30
[Kastor]	and I can't find any :/	00:30
ANONYMOU5	Hai guise.	00:30
alphaaa	l_mysterioso : i often don't get it. do they skip it sometimes ?	00:30
moghadam	4chan?	00:30
* [Kastor] needs CPU overclocking soft for Ubuntu 8.04 - please HALP.		00:30
l_mysterioso	@alphaaa it's pretty daily for me	00:30
cyphase	StevenX: i set mine to 75	00:31
l_mysterioso	@alphaaa might want to check your spam filters	00:31
* solvanora plz help dear old [Kastor]		00:31
[Kastor]	solvanora, thanks anyway :)	00:31
solvanora	^^	00:31
solvanora	im off	00:31
solvanora	glg	00:31
[Kastor]	cya	00:31
[Kastor]	thx	00:31
moghadam	no body wants to help me then?	00:31
alphaaa	l_mysterioso : i didn't get it most of last week	00:31
Finiras	my wireless internet doesn't work anymore while i selected the right protocol and password. it just keeps asking for the password as if its wrong	00:31
cyphase	StevenX: also, remember there are 2 panels in ubuntu, as opposed to one in windows. you can change the size of the panels, delete them, etc	00:31
smm289	well back to work, thanks for the help. --> LONG LIVE UBUNTU ---> DOWN WITH WINDOWS	00:32
cyphase	smm289: i'm about to pm you	00:32
solvanora	WINDOWN, UBUNTUP	00:32
smm289	ok	00:32
Finiras	windows is ok as long as ubuntu has so many bugs	00:33
solvanora	i really hope, M$ made a capital mistake with launching vista and make it extremely expensive once again	00:33
solvanora	finiras, XP is ok	00:33
moghadam	agree wth Finiras	00:33
solvanora	but Vista is buggy as well	00:33
l_mysterioso	@alphaaa i just took a look at my email and i have all of them.	00:33
TrailWhisperer	Anyone know how to disable cube caps in compiz (so that they're not there, not just disable with a blank solid face). Used to have a plugin for cube caps, in the latest compize, I'm clueless.	00:34
slashjamiec	KBD90000 : Sorry, I'm unsure as to why to help	00:34
slashjamiec	KBD0000 : Sorry, how to help	00:34
l_mysterioso	TrailWhisperer are you using Hardy?	00:34
K^Holtz	ive got a 2 gb flash drive but only 120MB of it is being recognized. even if i use parted or format the drive in windows.... any idea how i can get all 2 gigs back? i think it was corrupted by putting a program on it	00:35
K^Holtz	i dont care about the data on it	00:35
slashjamiec	k^Holtz : Format it?	00:35
K^Holtz	i tried to format it in windows slashjamiec ... it still only formateed 120MB	00:36
pepperjack	K^Holtz try deleting and recreating the partition maybe in ubuntu.	00:37
slashjamiec	pepperjack +1	00:37
pepperjack	K^Holtz somebody stole your megabytes	00:37
danbhfive	K^Holtz: maybe its just broken	00:37
K^Holtz	pepperjack: in red hat using parted i deleted the partitions and made a new one, but it kept failing to format saying i was trying to build beyond the size of the disk	00:37
slashjamiec	oh noes! but THATS my megabytes >.<	00:37
K^Holtz	danbhfive: its 3 different drives that this happened to	00:38
slashjamiec	K^Holtz: Seems like some broken sectors (if USB has sectors) or something hardware based.	00:38
slashjamiec	K^Holtz: You sure there isn't assigned partitions? Or have you used it for an OS recently?	00:38
K^Holtz	so is there an easy way to just completely wipe it clean and regain any corrupted 'sectors'?	00:38
nonewmsgs	!gyache	00:39
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about gyache	00:39
nonewmsgs	!gyach	00:39
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about gyach	00:39
K^Holtz	if u could just tell me a utility to use, and what command to type, that would be awesome	00:39
nonewmsgs	is Gyache no longer in the repositories?	00:39
spiritssight	Does any one know of a VERY good HTML editor or design tool so I can create screen layouts of a webpage	00:40
slashjamiec	K^Holtz: Have you EVER seen 2GB of space on that USB?	00:41
K^Holtz	slashjamiec: yes, and it says 2g on the drive	00:41
slashjamiec	ok	00:41
frenchy	does anyone else experience slower copy speed in ubuntu than other distros	00:41
K^Holtz	Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System	00:42
K^Holtz	/dev/sdc1 1 980 125424 b W95 FAT32	00:42
K^Holtz	theres the drive in fdisk -l	00:42
slashjamiec	spiritssight : kompozer?	00:42
pepperjack	frenchy you can check hdparm or sdparm to see what your settings are	00:42
danbhfive	K^Holtz: why not just use fdisk?	00:42
K^Holtz	danbhfive: what command do i type to wipe it clean and reformat in fat32?	00:43
Cynic	tell me	00:43
pepperjack	frenchy example: http://www.linuxweblog.com/hdparm	00:43
frenchy	pepperjack dont know why anything would be different in ubuntu - im copying my music from my ext HD and i get about 13MB/s and yesterday i was doing the same in sabayon and got about 23Mb/s	00:44
AlNahar	im getting an "input not supported" error after booting to newly installed ubuntu?	00:44
slashjamiec	Alnahar: Hardware.	00:44
AlNahar	what do i do?	00:44
K^Holtz	heres proof that its 2 gigs...	00:44
K^Holtz	Disk /dev/sdc: 1994 MB, 1994227200 bytes	00:44
K^Holtz	8 heads, 32 sectors/track, 15214 cylinders	00:44
K^Holtz	Units = cylinders of 256 * 512 = 131072 bytes	00:44
K^Holtz	Disk identifier: 0x00000000	00:44
FloodBot1	K^Holtz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	00:44
K^Holtz	lil too much :/	00:45
amit	K^Holtz: mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/device ?	00:45
slashjamiec	alNahar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=457519	00:45
danbhfive	K^Holtz: try parted	00:45
amit	don't run that unless you're sure you want to nuke the device contents	00:45
pepperjack	K^Holtz its just lazy cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdc until it cleans up its act	00:45
K^Holtz	amit im sure	00:46
amit	and don't mistype the device name :P	00:46
slashjamiec	amit: LOL	00:46
K^Holtz	ok, i typed it amit... lets see	00:46
Elektro_Boy	exit	00:47
l_mysterioso	Elektro_Boy: wrong window?	00:47
K^Holtz	nope, still only recognizes 128MB	00:47
slashjamiec	balls.	00:48
K^Holtz	slashjamiec: thats what i said	00:48
slashjamiec	K_Holtz: lol	00:48
amit	is this some kind of flash card?	00:48
K^Holtz	pepperjack: what was that cat thing u were talking about?	00:48
ph0rensic	!flash	00:49
ubottu	To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	00:49
K^Holtz	amit, its a usb flash memory disk	00:49
K^Holtz	drive.. not disk	00:49
amit	okay, I just read the backlog	00:49
amit	I've had that happen to me before with a microsd card actually	00:49
K^Holtz	this happened two 3 different drives	00:49
slashjamiec	K^Holtz: This is v. weird.	00:49
danbhfive	K^Holtz: what are you using this for?	00:50
K^Holtz	danbhfive: i just want to reclaim the drive so i can use it for file transport between systems...	00:50
K^Holtz	someone i work with loaded something on it that claimed almost all of one 2 gig drive and two 1 gig drives	00:50
Imaginativeone	what's a good PVP for linux?	00:51
amit	K^Holtz: did you repartition it?	00:51
slashjamiec	Imaginativeone : You mean, PVP game, or P2P network client?	00:51
ScheissDrogen	whats wrong if ff can do internet but terminal (apt) can't ? if I boot to terminal, it also works with apt	00:51
mib_lhfac4	hello	00:51
amit	the fdisk you pasted shows the first partition is only 128MB	00:51
amit	consistent with what you're seeing	00:51
K^Holtz	amit, i used parted to delete all the partitions...	00:51
Imaginativeone	Portable Video Player	00:51
slashjamiec	!hi \| mib_lhfac4	00:51
ubottu	mib_lhfac4: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	00:51
mib_lhfac4	someone know the correct alternative of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?	00:51
nonewmsgs	if i find a deb that was "designed for gutsy", will it work in hardy?	00:52
amit	K^Holtz: what did you type to create the new partition?	00:52
mib_lhfac4	Someone know the correct alternative of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?	00:52
K^Holtz	amit: but when i tried to use parted to make a 2 gig partition, it kept telling me i was using too much space	00:52
slashjamiec	nonewmsgs : It should, you might just need to grab a dependency or two	00:52
l_mysterioso	<ScheissDrogen> can you ping from the terminal, is it just apt that won't connect?	00:52
slashjamiec	mib_lhfac4: Please only state your problem once every 10 minutes, or try on the ubuntu forums, Someone who knows a correct answer will be with you shortly.	00:53
ScheissDrogen	l_mysterioso: can't ping	00:53
amit	K^Holtz: when you run parted /dev/sdc, and type p at the prompt, what does it say after "Disk /dev/sdc:"	00:53
K^Holtz	i hope this isnt too long.. but here is the output of a parted print all for sdc1	00:53
l_mysterioso	ScheissDrogen: but you can browse with FF?	00:53
K^Holtz	Disk /dev/sdc: 1994MB	00:54
K^Holtz	Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B	00:54
K^Holtz	Partition Table: msdos	00:54
K^Holtz	Number Start End Size Type File system Flags	00:54
K^Holtz	1 16.4kB 128MB 128MB primary fat32	00:54
FloodBot1	K^Holtz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	00:54
amit	uhh	00:54
amit	K^Holtz: delete the partition, and make one that's 1994MB	00:54
K^Holtz	pretty weird huh?	00:54
slashjamiec	K^Holtz: That really sucks. Something you DONT want to see on a 2gb drive.	00:54
ScheissDrogen	l_mysterioso: yes, its very strange, also opera and pidgin don't work	00:54
amit	2GB will be too big for it	00:54
amit	since that translates to 2048MB, and your drive is slightly smaller	00:54
slashjamiec	try 1999MB	00:55
amit	parted is annoying in that it won't let you just hit enter for the default of the partition taking all remaining space	00:55
K^Holtz	rm 1 does nothing.. says the partition doesnt exist	00:55
amit	so you have to type in the end size by hand	00:55
RickZilla	Ok, downloading ubuntu for the first time, going to try it out on an old 486 machine I grabbed from my parents when they got a new computer a few months ago	00:55
slashjamiec	RickZilla: Excellent, is there an issue?	00:56
nonewmsgs	rickzilla not to be an ass but are you going to want a gui?	00:56
RickZilla	slashjamiec: None that I know of, except that it's currently running win98 :-)	00:56
K^Holtz	amit oh, its saying /dev/sdc is 1994 MB but its saying /dev/sdc1 is 128	00:56
MarcC	how can I stop Ubuntu from logging me off when I lock the screen? It happens sometimes.	00:57
RickZilla	nonewmsgs: Nope, you're not being an ass...what's a gui? (sorry, total linux newb here)	00:57
slashjamiec	RickZilla: Cancel the download, and try download "Puppy Linux" or a smaller distribution because Ubuntu won't bootup natively in a gui with those system specs within 7 days.	00:57
nonewmsgs	RickZilla, a 486 will probably be too old. a gui is that nice thing with an arrow instead of just typing things (like dos)	00:57
RickZilla	oh...graphic user interface	00:58
amit	K^Holtz: what about typing "resize 1 16.4kB 1994MB"	00:58
l_mysterioso	RickZilla: G.raphical U.ser I.nterface	00:58
RickZilla	within 7 days? not sure whta you mean	00:58
slashjamiec	nonewmsgs: I have 512MB of RAM and I'm running fluxbox with a ripped-to-nothing version of ubuntu and I still get graphical lag. Oh, even with a 256MB video card!	00:58
RickZilla	so a 486 is too slow for full ubuntu?	00:58
slashjamiec	RickZilla: Ubuntu will take days to load on a 486.	00:58
K^Holtz	(parted) resize 1 16.4kB 1994MB	00:59
K^Holtz	No Implementation: GNU Parted cannot resize this partition to this size. We're	00:59
K^Holtz	working on it!	00:59
amit	hmmmm	00:59
RickZilla	really...didn't know that	00:59
grobda24	RickZilla, check the requirements on the Ubuntu site.	00:59
slashjamiec	RickZilla: Try "DamnSmallLinux", or also try "PuppyLinux" ... They're both fine desktop OS's for new users.	00:59
nonewmsgs	RickZilla, try damn small linux. but if i recall correctly the minimum stats for even that are 133mhz	00:59
RickZilla	This has at least that, I'm pretty sure	00:59
amit	K^Holtz: oh, that's because it wants to resize the fat32 fs	00:59
RickZilla	256, actually	00:59
amit	and it doesn't know how	00:59
amit	so "rm 1" does nothing?	01:00
RickZilla	I"ll try it....thanks for you info and saving me some grief down the road	01:00
slashjamiec	RickZilla: I still don't recommend it. Seriously :P	01:00
Codiah	Anyone willing to help a new guy out with a question or two?	01:00
RickZilla	slashjamiec: Your help is much appreciated	01:00
slashjamiec	RickZilla: No problems, if you decide to go back to ubuntu, you know where we are!	01:00
K^Holtz	amit: ok, it might have worked that time	01:00
amit	K^Holtz: and when you do p afterwards, 1 still shows up?	01:00
BiteMeBill	amit, if you do rm --help or man rm you can see what does what.	01:00
AlNahar	slashjamiec: can i get around that error?	01:00
nonewmsgs	slashjamiec, how fast is your processor?	01:01
slashjamiec	AlNahar: I'm not sure, disabling the troubled device if you're not using it might work	01:01
amit	BiteMeBill: i'm pretty sure the syntax within parted is "help rm"	01:01
AlNahar	slashjamiec: nothing else is plugged in and it still happens	01:01
slashjamiec	nonewmsgs: Uhh. 2.03GHZ last time I checked	01:01
K^Holtz	amit: here is the output of print now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45557/	01:01
slashjamiec	AlNahar: hmmm	01:01
Qster	why hasnt ubuntu made an easier way to add monitor graphics display modes i still havent figured out how to get 120hz even tho my monitor supports it. got it to 100hz	01:02
slashjamiec	AlNahar: You're running an LCD monitor, aren't you? :P	01:02
l_mysterioso	Codiah: of course	01:03
AlNahar	yes	01:03
amit	uhh	01:03
amit	K^Holtz: have you tried another program like cfdisk?	01:03
soundray	Qster: are you aware that 100Hz is much more ergonomic than 120Hz?	01:04
AlNahar	slashjamiec: yes, an lcd monitor	01:04
slashjamiec	AlNahar: It's to do with that. You'll need to edit your xorg.conf file to go with your LCD's "horiz sync" and "vert refresh", X is loading something that isn't supported. I can't help you on this matter because I don't know these functions for your monitor, refer to your manual.	01:04
Codiah	ok, well i'm extreemly interested in ubuntu, at themoment running windows vista on a notebook pc i just bought, but i hate vista with a passion, at least i have come to... question is, if i remove vista and install ubuntu will everything work fine, such as my wireless and touchpad mouse	01:04
AlNahar	cant i just remove the horiz sync and vert lines?	01:05
K^Holtz	amit: is this what i would type to make it a 1994 mb drive partition? (parted) mkpartfs primary fat32 0 1994	01:05
slashjamiec	Codiah: Yes.	01:05
Codiah	wireless as in internet card if that was confusing	01:05
helpme	what command in linux is equivalent to ipconfig in windows?	01:05
BiteMeBill	Codiah what make and model notebook do you have?	01:05
slashjamiec	Codiah: I'm not too sure about "everything" working seamlessly, but a driver here and there needed to be installed doesn't hurt anybody	01:05
l_mysterioso	Codiah: that all depends on your hardware but the most likely answer is yes.	01:05
soundray	helpme: ifconfig (roughly)	01:05
amit	K^Holtz: put MB after the numbers	01:05
amit	i'm not sure what unit it assumes if you don't put one	01:05
Codiah	HP compaq presario f700	01:05
l_mysterioso	Codiah: you can try the live disk and see how it works out.	01:05
helpme	it says bash: ipconfig: command not found	01:06
soundray	helpme: read carefully	01:06
Codiah	what does the live disk do?	01:06
amit	so mkpartfs primary fat32 0MB 1994MB	01:06
grobda24	slashjamiec, why does this page https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html say 486 is supported ? Confused :/	01:06
K^Holtz	amit: oh man, i think it might have worked...	01:06
BiteMeBill	Codiah, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656756	01:06
BiteMeBill	helpme, it is ifconfig not ipconfig	01:07
slashjamiec	grobda24: I didn't say it wasn't, I said it would be a pain trying to run Ubuntu on a 486 and I personally wouldn't, but it's up to you to take the plunge and try and run a GUI on a 233mhz	01:07
AlNahar	slashjamiec: can't i comment out thoselines?	01:07
slashjamiec	AlNahar: Oh, oh, god no	01:07
grobda24	slashjamiec, so it does it really take days to load ?	01:07
MarcC	how can I get ubuntu to tell me what network card I have?	01:07
AlNahar	slashjamiec: i've done that in fedora before and it just did some defaults	01:07
AlNahar	like right now, in my xorg.conf in fedora, i have this	01:08
slashjamiec	AlNahar: Oh yeah, try reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202934	01:08
soundray	MarcC: lspci	01:08
AlNahar	HorizSync 30.0 - 110.0	01:08
AlNahar	# VertRefresh 50.0 - 150.0	01:08
slashjamiec	grobda24: Not days per-se, but some time, yes.	01:08
Codiah	oh, thanks allot. have a good one..	01:08
ripper	are there any libs that i need to convert micrsoft office to openoffice corectly some thing are a miss and text is off	01:08
AlNahar	slashjamiec: so ubuntu wont work if you comment out those lines?	01:08
ripper	works but not perfect text is overlapping	01:09
slashjamiec	grobda24: I tried booting ubuntu off a livecd on a 533mhz PC, it took around 30 minutes to get to the desktop.	01:09
grobda24	slashjamiec, hmmm, I'm not sure I agree with your approach, if they were running win98 on it. gnome with all the extras turned off should be ok. But no matter.	01:09
ripper	any help	01:09
soundray	ripper: conversion just isn't perfect	01:09
slashjamiec	AlNahar: I'm unsure, read that forum post.	01:09
grobda24	slashjamiec, 30 mins is not days !	01:09
AlNahar	slashjamiec: i ask because it works for me in another distro when i just comment it out	01:09
soundray	ripper: you could check if zamzar does a better job (online file conversion)	01:09
ripper	soundray: that what i thought thanx man	01:09
slashjamiec	grobda24: Well, you try using gnome on a 233mhz PC :P	01:10
grobda24	slashjamiec, yeah your recommended distros may be faster of course.	01:10
ripper	soundray: are you here all day man.... lol thanx for the help all day though i greatly appreciate it	01:10
BiteMeBill	you can try to comment out the refresh rates in your xorg file just might have to change them in console.	01:10
grobda24	slashjamiec, I might have to but an old 486 just to try this :P	01:10
grobda24	but = buy	01:11
slashjamiec	AlNahar: I'd imagine it isn't required, I'm sure that it would just go back to defaults, yeah. I'm sure those functions in xorg.conf are only used as parameters for custom bootup. Ubuntu installer can do stuff like this sometimes. :P	01:11
soundray	!info smartmontools > tabakhase_	01:11
ubottu	tabakhase_, please see my private message	01:11
slashjamiec	grobda24: Lol, you'll need to read the requirements on running a LiveCD of ubuntu on the ubuntu website. You need 256MB of ram I'd imagine.	01:12
AlNahar	slashjamiec: when you are prompted with "input not supported" should i be able to do something to get out of it?	01:12
slashjamiec	AlNahar: Restart X maybe? Or revert to a terminal and edit xorg.conf (restarting X is simply ctrl+alt+backspace)	01:12
K^Holtz	amit: confirmed.. it all works!!! thanks a lot for your help	01:13
grobda24	slashjamiec, seems important seeing that Ubuntu is aimed at low resource users ?	01:13
ilovefedora	hi im runing ubuntu server 6.06 and cant get apache to start	01:13
slashjamiec	grobda24: Not as low as a 486 for livecd, unfortunately. Maybe if you installed it instead of livecd and then went to fluxbox, then everything would work seamlessly.	01:13
slashjamiec	grobda24: Fluxbox is a lightweight window manager, sorry	01:14
grobda24	slashjamiec, who mentioned any livecd's ? I see your point though.	01:15
sanassar	Hey guys	01:15
templaedhel	can someone help me get my 2wire dongle set up?	01:15
slashjamiec	grobda24: I'm assuming since you're a new user you'd automatically use the livecd. Sorry.	01:15
sanassar	I was able to make a portable version of firefox,thunderbird,seamonkey,and instantbird.	01:16
slashjamiec	templaedhel: Yup! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=707972	01:16
djhash	templaedhel: you need to be more specific and provide more details..	01:16
grobda24	slashjamiec, s'ok.	01:16
slashjamiec	templaedhel: Please follow the link I pasted and follow it accordingly.	01:16
slashjamiec	grobda24: ok	01:16
templaedhel	slashjamiec: okay	01:17
J-a-k-e	Hi all, does anyone know if it's possible to setup a high pass filter & lfe crossover in pulseaudio?	01:17
soundray	grobda24: Ubuntu isn't aimed at low-resource users. Not sure where you got that from.	01:17
slashjamiec	soundary +1	01:17
decker	holas!!	01:17
decker	nassss	01:17
slashjamiec	decker: English?	01:18
decker	not, i'm spaniard	01:18
djhash	!sp	01:18
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about sp	01:18
djhash	!spanish	01:18
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	01:18
decker	thanks!	01:18
sanassar	Anyone want to make a portable version of firefox,thunderbird,seamonkey,or instantbird for linux?	01:19
cosmodad	isn't there some mobile edition of firefox going on already?	01:19
cosmodad	by the mozilla guys...	01:20
slashjamiec	yeah im sure there is	01:20
Flare183	cosmodad: yeah	01:20
grobda24	slashjamiec, I read something about Ubuntu for developing countries somewhere.	01:20
Flare183	cosmodad: you mean like for a flash drive?	01:20
macGerhard	hi. I just got a clean 7.04 server install, can't seem to find the sources file... shouldn't it be in /etc/apt/sources.list?	01:20
sanassar	It is only one script to setup the portable editio	01:20
cosmodad	Flare183: no idea, I just read a headline about some mobile copy of FF the other day.	01:20
Flare183	macGerhard: yeap	01:20
sanassar	editition	01:20
macGerhard	Flare183: ok, but that file doesn't exist	01:21
Flare183	cosmodad: well goto portableapps.com to find out about portable FF	01:21
Flare183	macGerhard: I have no idea what to tell you there, keep asking.	01:21
macGerhard	Flare183: there is only /etc/apt/sources.list.d which doesn't contain the actual sources...	01:21
macGerhard	k	01:21
cosmodad	Flare183: cool link, thanks.	01:21
slashjamiec	grobda24: Ubuntu develops everywhere. The name derives from an african word.	01:22
Flare183	np	01:22
K^Holtz	I just renamed these songs (.ogg) in ubuntu, but when i play them, they still dont recognize a artist, album, or title... is there a program (id3 editer) that will ensure this data is associated w/ every song?	01:22
Flare183	umm	01:22
mib_lhfac4	Someone know the correct alternative of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?	01:22
djhash	macGerhard: what do you get when you type "apt-get update"	01:22
AlNahar	slashjamiec: where is xorg.conf on ubuntu?	01:22
macGerhard	djhash: Reading package lists... Done	01:23
slashjamiec	AlNahar: /etc/xorg.conf	01:23
SuperQ	AlNahar: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, not needed for many configurations in 8.04	01:23
AlNahar	SuperQ: well, i'm getting an error due to using an lcd, so im not sure what else to do	01:23
slashjamiec	SuperQ : He's having issues with vsync on his monitor.	01:23
Codiah	hey, back, quick question, is the live cd the same as the regular install cd??	01:23
templaedhel	slashjamiec: the driver files are just text docs. should I "save link as" instead? and where do I put them?	01:23
SuperQ	slashjamiec: ahh	01:23
grobda24	slashjamiec, well, anyway, we're down to semantics really. I can't find where I read about Ubuntu (the distro) in developing countries now. Interesting discussion. Laters.	01:23
SebNaitsabes	Codiah: the Live CD has the installer on it yes	01:23
cosmodad	K^Holtz: not quite sure what you mean and did, but there are apps like easytag which can help you with tagging music files.	01:23
Codiah	k thanks again....	01:24
Codiah	ciao..	01:24
slashjamiec	grobda24: Right. I'm here for Ubuntu Support, not about story telling philosophy's, sorry	01:24
djhash	macGerhard: dunno what to tell you.. something prob. went wrong in the install and sources.list didnt get placed properly..	01:24
macGerhard	djhash: yep, the web host seems to have screwed the install. couldn't install 8.04, now this. hmmm..	01:25
K^Holtz	cosmodad: thanks, ill try that	01:25
djhash	macGerhard: how come 8.04 didn't install?	01:25
slashjamiec	templaedhel: I want you to go to terminal and type "wget linkhere" where linkhere is the driver link	01:26
macGerhard	djhash: incorrect image. have to upgrade all the way from 7.04...	01:26
slashjamiec	templaedhel: It tells you all this in the tutorial, read carefully :P	01:26
macGerhard	some issues with the 8.04 they had. too "cutting edge" I suppose :D	01:26
djhash	macGerhard: can't you get the 8.04 CD image and install it?	01:26
mib_lhfac4	Someone know the correct alternative of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?	01:26
templaedhel	slashjamiec: okay	01:27
macGerhard	djhash: not in the DC & no access to images. I know it's not ideal upgrading, but my choices is stay with 7.04 or upgrade.	01:28
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slashjamiec	I love this Fluxbox Theme. Hell yeah I do.	01:30
[1]Tony	Is there anyone that could recommend a good Wifi manager that doesn't recquire a whole lot of dependancies for Haron?	01:30
[1]Tony	*heron	01:30
earthbound01	I'm installing Ubuntu (Hardy Heron) and it's reading my 80gb hdd as a 40 gb hdd. Please Help.	01:31
Bagualas	is there any way to see shared folders (samba) created by the gnome? like a list or something	01:32
_Zeus_	earthbound01: did you use dd?	01:32
_Zeus_	!smbfs \| Bagualas	01:32
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about smbfs	01:32
_Zeus_	!samba \| Bagualas	01:32
ubottu	Bagualas: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.	01:32
earthbound01	I'm sorry, I don't know what dd is. I'm something of a newb.	01:32
dr_willis	_Zeus_, dont forget the fusesmb wiki page. :)	01:32
dr_willis	!dd	01:33
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about dd	01:33
Bagualas	_Zeus_, is mention there about my question? i know how smb.conf works... I mean in my question about the graphical from gnome	01:33
earthbound01	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix) ?	01:33
djhash	earthbound01: do you have anything installed in the hard drive?	01:33
dr_willis	earthbound01, dd is a 'data dump' command - with the right ussage - it can do all sorts of usefull things.	01:34
_Zeus_	Bagualas: install that first	01:34
_Zeus_	then you shoud be able to connect to samba shares	01:34
earthbound01	djhash- it had windows a long time ago, and it has an installation of Hardy Heron on it now.	01:34
Bagualas	_Zeus_, I already have samba installed, working man	01:34
tabakhase___	grr	01:35
tabakhase___	lol, smart prints: "Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA!"	01:35
tabakhase___	Power on: 1889207 hours xD	01:35
Bagualas	just, I made some shares	01:35
Bagualas	and want to list then	01:35
_Zeus_	Bagualas: i don't know how to list them	01:35
templaedhel	slashjamiec: hey I just used the graphical drive install that came with ndiswrapper. worked like a charm	01:35
djhash	earthbound01: are you sure you are looking at the entire drive and not just the partition	01:35
templaedhel	thanks	01:35
Bagualas	made some shares, by clicking with right button, Share!	01:35
dr_willis	the smbclient command i belive can scan/list seen shares..	01:35
helpme	I have a question... okay I bought this shuttle PC, and it came with foresight linux... how would I go at installing UBUNTU on here? this PC DOES NOT have a CD ROM drive, so CAN I install it with a USB hard drive or flash drive or w/e??? pls help	01:35
LBIguy	how do i get compiz setup?	01:35
_Zeus_	!compiz \| LBIguy	01:35
ubottu	LBIguy: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion	01:35
earthbound01	I'll put up a screenshot of my problem.	01:35
dr_willis	helpme, check the alternative methods of installing.. Yes you can do it..	01:36
djhash	!usb	01:36
dr_willis	!install \| helpme	01:36
ubottu	For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent	01:36
slashjamiec	templaedhel: Excellent	01:36
ubottu	helpme: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate	01:36
slashjamiec	brb phone	01:36
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helpme	thanks!, also is ubuntu going to be easier to use than a lot of linuxs? im completly new to linux and just want a postgresql server set up :o	01:36
michaesaur	how can i tell what a package is being depended on?	01:37
SebNaitsabes	yes Ubuntu is a lot easier to use than many others	01:37
djhash	helpme: yes..	01:37
SebNaitsabes	the terminal should tell you or you can use the package manager to help with that	01:37
michaesaur	djhash: how can i tell what a package is being depended on?	01:37
djhash	michaesaur: in synaptic you can get that information	01:37
AlNahar	slashjamiec: i am trying to help someone with this problem, they said ls -la /etc/X11/xorg.conf says no such file	01:37
michaesaur	okay.	01:37
LBIguy	when i go into kmenu settings i dont see desktop effects	01:38
dr_willis	helpme, ubuntu is very easy and focused on useability. of course you wull proberly have to do some reading on using postgresql thats a bit advanced.	01:39
kailiey	I had to patch a kernel. I followed the instructions from !kernel. The problem is, once I install it.. everything works great.. EXCEPT... the aptitude upgrade ALWAYS wants to reinstall the kernel*header's... even tho they're the same	01:40
earthbound01	I actually can't do a screenshot because I can't use my hard drive right now.	01:40
jStefan	I need help getting 5.1 sound, speaker-test seems to work, but when i play a 5.1 source it is down mixed to stereo (but sent to all speakers)	01:40
hdz	anyone know of a semi-fun game for ubuntu for d/l through apt or another source that would be worth playing, just for sh*ts n giggles after installing that nvidia driver	01:40
mkquist	hey all, anyone have luck getting canon scanners to work in ubuntu?	01:41
hdz	heh i had prob w/scanner	01:41
groppo	t	01:41
cosmodad	kailiey: you sure that kernel Ubuntu seeks to upgrade to isn't of a higher version (maybe just in the late part after the dash)?	01:41
hdz	had to make avahi start later	01:41
mypup	need help finding file location for conkyrc please	01:41
x2o	hi, how can i over or underclock my cpu in my notebook, yes i know about the risks	01:41
hdz	sudo updatedb; sudo locate conky	01:42
mypup	thanks	01:42
earthbound01	but- /dev/sda	01:42
earthbound01	free space 38321 MB (*note, not 80gb)	01:42
earthbound01	/dev/sda swap 1686 used 0mb	01:42
djhash	earthbound01: type "sudo fdisk -l" and use pastebin to give me the output	01:42
kailiey	it keeps wanting to install : linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic	01:42
kailiey	and I'm running: Linux smb 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Sep 10 18:13:41 MDT 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux	01:42
SaraSmith	what's the name of the file you update to change your graphic settings?	01:42
cosmodad	kailiey: you used the same name?	01:42
hdz	theres a bunch of em	01:42
hdz	xorg.conf is a big one	01:43
kailiey	Oh I guess I should have named the kernel? I just cut/pasted what it said to build a generic kernel	01:43
SaraSmith	hdz hmm yes..	01:43
djhash	earthbound01: that is how much free space is on that disk.. and since you have both windows and ubuntu installed on it.. you'll definately not have an empty drive..	01:43
hdz	for what type of grx settings sara	01:43
jStefan	I need help getting 5.1 sound, speaker-test plays each speaker individually, but when i play a 5.1 source it is down mixed to stereo and then sent to all speakers	01:43
earthbound01	I typed sudo fdisk/dev/sda	01:43
earthbound01	and it said:	01:43
earthbound01	The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4864.	01:43
earthbound01	There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,	01:43
earthbound01	and could in certain setups cause problems with:	01:43
earthbound01	1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)	01:43
FloodBot1	earthbound01: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	01:43
cosmodad	kailiey: I don't know the instructions say, but I used to label my custom kernels differently to stay unambiguous	01:43
kailiey	k thank you	01:44
kailiey	i will try that	01:44
peller	n00b question: why doesn't the install fit on a CD, and how am I supposed to work around that?	01:44
djhash	earthbound01: use pastebin	01:44
djhash	!pastebin	01:44
ubottu	pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)	01:44
hdz	anyone know the dirs i can remove saftely from updating 4 kernels so far, files downloading from regular previous kernels etc	01:44
hdz	Linux turtle 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 17:32:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux	01:44
cosmodad	kailiey: not though that once -20 comes out, Ubuntu will go for the upgrade again. Pin your custom kernel if you don't want that to happen and be aware that you don't catch security updates that way.	01:44
jStefan	peller, is it a 700mb cd or 650mb?	01:44
cosmodad	kailiey: note though	01:45
hdz	how am i SMP with p4?	01:45
SaraSmith	hdz i feel like an idiot.. my husband is still having problems with graphics.. in fact it won't load at all.. so if i can go back where we were maybe i messed it up??	01:45
peller	jStefan: I only have 650mb. There are 700mb?	01:45
hdz	sara what card does he have	01:45
jStefan	peller, yes 700mb exists, and i think it's needed for the ubuntu iso	01:45
kailiey	ya?	01:45
hdz	actually do /exec -o lspci \|grep nvidia -i	01:45
earthbound01	pastebin url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45570/	01:45
hdz	in irc	01:45
dr_willis	peller, i havent seen a 650mb cd here in the stores in ages...	01:45
cosmodad	kailiey: just corrected a typo	01:46
^Phantom^	Okay... I'm on the live ubuntu cd	01:46
jStefan	hdz, intel's HT uses SMP	01:46
hdz	hyperthread jstefan?	01:46
jStefan	hdz, yes	01:46
peller	dr_willis, jStefan: wow, hard to believe nobody else ran into this. ok, any way for me to get around this problem w/o waiting and buying new CDs tomorrow? I tried memory stick, but the instructions got me nowhere fast.	01:46
SaraSmith	htz it's a GA-MA69GM-S2H	01:47
hdz	2.8ghz v.A uses hyper? damn so it's not dual core really, not multi-cpu but considered SMP?	01:47
peller	I'm ashamed to say I'm upgrading from Breezy Badger	01:47
SaraSmith	gigabyte hdz	01:47
^Phantom^	I want to do a custom partition, and would like some help please.	01:47
djhash	earthbound01: its "sudo fdisk -l" <-- add the -l (lowercase L)	01:47
SebNaitsabes	phantom	01:47
SebNaitsabes	ok sure	01:47
slashjamiec	Alnahar : gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or "gedit /etc/xorg.conf"	01:47
SebNaitsabes	pm me	01:47
^Phantom^	okay	01:47
hdz	sarasmith: the video card is gigabyte?	01:47
earthbound01	Sorry.	01:47
dr_willis	peller, no wayt around that i know of. If you got blank dvds you could download the dvd version i guess.	01:47
hdz	qparted phantom	01:48
AlNahar	slashjamiec: he can't get to X:)	01:48
AlNahar	cant use gedit	01:48
hdz	nano	01:48
AlNahar	he's going to reinstall with a crt	01:48
shadowhywind	hay all, in order to get my wireless card to work (ndiswrapper), I have to restart dbus first? is this normal?	01:48
SaraSmith	hdz ATI on board	01:48
danielm_mc	vim	01:48
hdz	oh	01:48
jStefan	hdz, if it's a pentium D it's dual core, but if it's just a pentium 4, it's likely it uses HT	01:48
hdz	sara you may need to do the proprietery drivers	01:48
hdz	just search for your gfx card on help.ubuntu.com has a walkthru	01:48
slashjamiec	Alnahar: Use nano via a terminal then	01:48
danielm_mc	vim	01:49
peller	jStefan, dr_willis: ok, thanks anyways	01:49
hdz	it's p4 1mb cache 533 8kb 16kb	01:49
smev81	azureus/vuze cannot find cairo as stated here http://pastebin.com/d7538544a. Why? Can you help me?	01:49
solexious	[q] Ive removed with apt-get sendmail but the deamon still starts up when i boot, any ideas why?	01:49
sanassar	Hey	01:49
sanassar	Anyone need some help	01:49
earthbound01	fdisk readout: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45571/	01:49
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jStefan	hdz, doesn't sound like a dual core pentium to me	01:49
jStefan	hdz, just HT	01:49
hdz	damn it's cap is 3800mhz when its stuck at 2.8	01:50
hdz	yeah	01:50
SaraSmith	hdz thank you .. darn this is difficult	01:50
hdz	it's just weird a p4, hT	01:50
hdz	there's only 3 p4 on intel site that are below 3.2 that are HT	01:50
jStefan	hdz, is a desktop or a laptop?	01:51
hdz	sara there is much work ahead i dunno about ati but nvidia was a bit of a workthrough	01:51
hdz	desktop	01:51
hdz	i just did cat /proc/cpuinfo	01:51
hdz	it's p4	01:51
djhash	earthbound01: is ubuntu the only OS installed?	01:51
SaraSmith	hdz it's a desktop.	01:51
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hdz	um	01:52
earthbound01	djhash: it should be. A long time ago this disk had XP on it.	01:52
hdz	these ubuntu folks are smart	01:52
hdz	like	01:52
hdz	must've used slackware back n the day	01:52
jStefan	hdz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_4_microprocessors#.22Prescott.22_.2890_nm.29	01:52
jStefan	hdz, 4th from prescott list?	01:52
arooni	can someone tell me how i can get a microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 to get its back/forward buttons working correctly (in firefox to go back/forward but also in nautilus to navigate folders etc)	01:52
djhash	earthbound01: are you sure it is an 80GB HDD? does the bios see it as 80GB?	01:53
hdz	imma check jsetefan	01:53
Checkmate91	does anyone know how to download an entire website to a local directory preserving links and everything for offline use?	01:53
smev81	noone knows :(	01:53
djhash	smev81 you might need to compile and install cairo	01:54
zhaowm	moring,in China	01:54
earthbound01	djhash: This might be a bios problem, you're right. It says 80gb on the case, and when it had XP it had 80gb too.	01:54
tabakhase___	no --force in smartctl -.-	01:54
SaraSmith	[20:50:03] <SaraSmith> hdz thank you .. darn this is difficult	01:54
SaraSmith	[20:50:03] <hdz> yeah	01:54
SaraSmith	[20:50:09] <hdz> it's just weird a p4, hT	01:54
SaraSmith	[20:50:33] <hdz> there's only 3 p4 on intel site that are below 3.2 that are HT	01:54
SaraSmith	[20:50:35] * Quits: pizzapie (n=chatzill@pool-141-156-243-125.res.east.verizon.net) (Client Quit)	01:54
FloodBot1	SaraSmith: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	01:54
dr_willis	Checkmate91, httptrack (or some name similer to that) can do it.. may be other ways also.	01:54
SaraSmith	[20:50:59] <jStefan> hdz, is a desktop or a laptop?	01:54
smev81	checkmate i buyed a c't last month, which had a tool for your needs.	01:54
slashjamiec	I'm unavailable now	01:54
earthbound01	djhash: it says 80gb (or the equivalent in bytes) directly on the drive.	01:54
arooni	can someone tell me how i can get a microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 to get its back/forward buttons working correctly (in firefox to go back/forward but also in nautilus to navigate folders etc)? right the back button on mouse = middle button, and forward button = right click.	01:55
Checkmate91	dr_willis, thanks I will check it out	01:55
arrrghhh	what's the best cli torrent tool? azureus is awesome because it's so feature rich, but still java takes a lot of processor cycles	01:55
djhash	earthbound01: maybe you have lost sectors and filesystems..	01:55
djhash	earthbound01: or hidden for that matter..	01:55
SaraSmith	i'm sorry.	01:55
smev81	compile cairo? i installed it already. Do you think it isnt build for the needs of azureus and i have to rebuild it to ensure?	01:55
SaraSmith	vista is frustrating me	01:56
jStefan	hdz, according to that list the 2.8A is not HT	01:56
Xcerca	what download manager do you guys use with firefox and FlashGot ? any suggestions ?	01:56
arrrghhh	Xcerca, downloadthemall	01:56
danbhfive1	arooni I do it with an xmodmap file	01:56
earthbound01	djhash: Hidden is unlikely, I'm the original owner of this drive.	01:56
djhash	smev81: you might need to get dev filers..	01:56
smev81	i try	01:56
hdz	i think that's it	01:57
carandraug	Xcerca: I use wget. It's not Firefox extension but it's does what I want	01:57
hdz	i know i saved a .gif of the whole thread and it said HT	01:57
NoMax	Hello	01:57
herenow	Any idea why I would be banned from #apache even though I've never been there? I don't know where would b a good place to ask this..	01:57
hdz	if i do /exec -o uname -asr	01:57
hdz	Linux turtle 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 17:32:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux	01:57
hdz	it wouldn't say SMP if it wasn't HT right?	01:57
sooki	okay, i have a question, i've had linux installed for a while. i think it's an ext3 fs, and i have a swap partition, i just dropped an old hd i have in that's formatted to ntfs but doesn't have an os installed on it, and i'm trying to install windows to it, but it's saying it's going to need to reformat the linux partition or something to access the mbr, is there a safe way to install windows to a second drive without damaging my linux i	01:57
sooki	nstall?	01:57
carandraug	Xcerca: I've heard that Aria2 works with FlashGot and is one of the best out there	01:57
jStefan	hdz, not sure	01:57
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Xcerca	arrrghhh cool , i'll try it out	01:57
rafaelhwm	hello everybody	01:58
jStefan	brb, need to reboot...	01:58
sooki	and yeah, i know that i'm going to have to replace the bootloader	01:58
herenow	how long does it usually take for an install cd to MEMCHeck for 2 gigs?	01:58
arrrghhh	sooki, just unplug the linux hdd	01:58
hdz	if you install windows it'll overwrite the bootloader, you can use grub afterwards to do dual boot though	01:58
Xcerca	so Aria2 and Downthemall are worth checking out... alright, peace bros	01:58
arrrghhh	herenow, you can let it run forever if you wish	01:58
rafaelhwm	im having a problem, i have and usb headset, what can i do to make the speakers and the headset play together?	01:58
keith_	Does anyone know how to get evolution to display notifications when not running?	01:59
hdz	jsefan: so that is HT?	01:59
herenow	arrrghhh: so after I get one pass with no errors I should be ok?	01:59
danbhfive	arooni I don't understand the xmodmap file, but I can pastebin mine if you like	01:59
NoMax	Can any1 tell me what wifi USB adapter will work in adhoc mode? Asus wl-167g doesn't...	01:59
arrrghhh	herenow, normally. usually if memory is bad memtest fails within the first 30 secs.	01:59
sooki	oh yeah, duh, how could i forget that. thanks arrrghhh	01:59
arrrghhh	sooki, np :D	01:59
hdz	i got my wifi usb to work through ndiswrapper windows driver in ubuntu	02:00
sooki	<3	02:00
djhash	earthbound01: you can use a utility called "testdisk" to make sure everything is ok.. but it is a very powerful program and used improperly can basically damage your filesystem beyond recovery.. you could ask for help here for someone who knows how to use it.. or read up on it.	02:00
NoMax	In adhoc mode?	02:00
hdz	well both	02:00
arrrghhh	sooki, if you need help settin up grub when you're done installing windows i know how to do that too haha	02:00
hdz	all work in adhoc or infrostructure	02:00
herenow	I tried to $sudo tasksel remove lamp-server	02:00
Xcerca	arrrghhh with dTa can i remove FlashGot ?	02:00
herenow	don't do that	02:00
NoMax	Ok I will try ndiswrapper	02:00
hdz	look up yer stuff on google card ndiswrapper	02:01
arrrghhh	sooki, normally you install windows first and then ubuntu to not worry about grub issues, but with separate hdds it's not that difficult.	02:01
NoMax	Thanks	02:01
sooki	thanks, i have a kubuntu cd laying around, is there a way to do it off the livecd?	02:01
hdz	there's a billion wireless card go-throughs	02:01
arrrghhh	Xcerca, i don't use flashgot... so i dunno	02:01
earthbound01	thanks djhash.	02:01
herenow	is there a way to install from (initramfs)?	02:01
sooki	yeah, i've typically always installed windows first, but i've been windows free for a couple of years	02:01
hdz	i installed win then ubuntu, works fine	02:02
arooni	danbhfive, thanks	02:02
sooki	that's the easy way :P	02:02
rafaelhwm	im having a problem, i have an usb headset, what can i do to make the speakers and the headset play together the same sound? hope you understand...	02:02
herenow	BusyBox... my install cd lead me to busy box instead of the live cd....	02:02
arrrghhh	that's the "recommended" way. but with separate hdds, it's trivial to setup grub.	02:02
hdz	not the good way either	02:02
hdz	just needed some drivers from win for my wifi and printer	02:02
NoMax	Should the adapter be plugged in when u install ndiswrapper???	02:02
hdz	no	02:02
arrrghhh	herenow, that means your system doesn't like the livecd. have you tried the alternate or "minimal" install cd?	02:03
Daisuke_Ido	what?	02:03
hdz	don't plug it in til the end	02:03
NoMax	Ok thx	02:03
danbhfive	NoMax: Im not sure it matters, Ive always had it plugged in	02:03
* Daisuke_Ido facepalms		02:03
arrrghhh	herenow, sorry alternate cd and minimal cd are separate discs entirely, didn't mean to make them sound like the same disc.	02:03
Daisuke_Ido	further and further down the spiral	02:03
hdz	you'll need the .sys and .inf files from win for your adapter then install them and copy them from ndiswrapper binary then you will plug in reboot all should go well	02:03
hdz	you should really look at a walkthrough	02:04
NoMax	I'll give it a try .... Be back if not working ;-)	02:04
hdz	like google to make sure there's a need for ndiswrapper first	02:04
Daisuke_Ido	rebooting isn't always necessary, i wish people would quit assuming this is windows lite	02:04
herenow	arrrghhh: so there is nothing I can do to install or format hd from busybox?	02:04
hdz	um with my wusb54gs there was a need one time, ya know linux supposed to be win-free but i needed to mod a driver to work with ubuntu	02:05
Daisuke_Ido	hdz: occassionally it's necessary	02:05
Aquahallic	what's a good virus scanner to use with ubuntu.. I used AVG when I had winblows	02:05
arrrghhh	herenow, there probably is, but i don't know how.	02:05
hdz	same with nvidia	02:05
NoMax	It works in infrastructure mode but not adhoc...I get operation not permitted when brnging up adhoc mode	02:05
carandraug	hdz: you got your wusb54gs working without ndiswrapper?	02:05
danbhfive	!virus > Aquahallic	02:05
ubottu	Aquahallic, please see my private message	02:05
hdz	other then that, not really	02:05
Daisuke_Ido	hdz: wasn't referring to you in particular, just the mentality of "oh, i changed something, i'd better reboot"	02:05
arrrghhh	Aquahallic, that's the thing... you don't need a virus scanner. there's clamav, but that's mostly if you're using linux as a mailserver sending mail to winblows machines	02:05
hdz	carandraug: no i don't see how it would work without ndiswrapper	02:05
arrrghhh	!virus	02:06
ubottu	A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21	02:06
kavelot	is there a way to install QT 4.4.* using apt-get?	02:06
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Daisuke_Ido	err...	02:06
hdz	daisuke_ido: yeah i don't want ppl to think that either, if they do then they should try slackware out for a bit	02:06
Daisuke_Ido	i believe 4.4 is in hardy-backports	02:06
carandraug	hdz: oh, ok. It seemmed to me you did said that, and then I was interested. Also, I think it's necessary to blacklist some modules for ndiswrapper.At least I needed to do that.	02:07
hdz	linux isn't attacked with virus's like a closed source system	02:07
kavelot	gonna check, thanks	02:07
hdz	no i don't think blacklist is needed at all	02:07
jtmoney	hey guys, i apt-get purged samba, rm -rf'd /etc/samba, and i'm trying to apt-get install samba and it's not installing smb.conf, etc. how do i get these files back?	02:07
hdz	developers of linksys could care less really	02:08
kaell	how do i specify a port to connect to on a server in xchat? when i do /server moo 1234 it works.... but when i enter "moo 1234" in for a server it says invalid server	02:08
simester	I'm new to Linux/Ubuntu and I just installed 8.04, my wireless card is recognized, but a wireless connection (which I have) cannot be found. My only choices are "Wired Connection" and "Point to Point Connection". Help...please?	02:08
hdz	they'll make one for a popular router, not an access point	02:08
NoMax	De-wrt rules	02:08
hdz	simester: google for your (card) and ndiswrapper	02:08
carandraug	simester: tried to run "iwconfig scan" in a terminal?	02:09
[1]Tony	tony	02:10
carandraug	hdz: yeah. Specially because few people make a fuss about it since it works with ndiswrapper	02:10
simester	My card (in the Hardware Drivers screen) is Atheros 802.11. Is that the term I should Google or am I looking for another manufacturer name?	02:10
[1]Tony	Is there anyone that could recommend a good Wifi manager that doesn't recquire a whole lot of dependancies for Heron?	02:10
bullgard4	In dmesg in the identifier 'ata2.00' what does "2" and "00" stand for? (see for example https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+questions/31411)	02:10
hdz	bus id	02:10
^Phantom^	actually	02:11
hdz	simester try atheros usb (version) ndiswrapper	02:11
seedbox	hey can someone help me make a init.d script to start a process on startup	02:11
hdz	or just go to help.ubuntu.com	02:11
hdz	man nice	02:11
EnjoyMe	install google chrome on ubuntu -> http://www.shawncassick.com	02:11
[1]Tony	anyone?	02:12
miyako	hello	02:12
^Phantom^	I have a stuck window	02:12
carandraug	simester: you can make sure with "lshw -C network"	02:12
hdz	hey enjoyme: you try chome?	02:12
[1]Tony	i've tried gtkwifi but it's a pain in the ass to install the dependencies because i don't have an internet connection to this computer that isn't wireless	02:12
^Phantom^	I accidentally pressed space when the install window showed up	02:12
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^Phantom^	and now the "Abort the installation?" Window is stuck	02:12
^Phantom^	I can't "cancel" or "quit"	02:12
simester	HDZ, sorry for uber-newbie ignorance. Is Atheros USB NDISWRAPPER software I should download? I did a search and instructions came up for prev versions (FF, GG). Would that work?	02:13
dr_willis	^Phantom^, try the tab key?	02:13
cocotico	wat can i do installing but its geting stuck with the sawp partition	02:13
seedbox	hey can someone help me make a init.d script to start a process on startup	02:13
dr_willis	seedbox, depending on the task. You may just want to launch it from /etc/rc.local	02:14
^Phantom^	I push the button and the window just stays there	02:14
^Phantom^	They're like dead buttons...	02:14
cosmodad	[1]Tony: you could set up your wifi network with simple comand-line tools, and once you managed that, install gtkwifi off the Internet.	02:14
carandraug	simester: most likely they will work. I still follow instructions from 6.10 to install mine with ndiswrapper	02:14
seedbox	well basically i have process that wants a admin password when it starts up with this program...i want the process to start up with root priv dr willis	02:14
cosmodad	[1]Tony: if you can afford to run an unsecured or WEP-network (basically the same) for a really short while, it's just a few steps.	02:15
simester	carandraug: I ran that and got info spit back. I dont know how to interpret it, though.	02:15
herenow	you can't get a text install from a desktop livecd?	02:15
dr_willis	herenow, last i looked.. No you cant.	02:15
kavelot	should I find problems installing QT 4.4 from hardy-backports on gutsy?	02:15
dr_willis	herenow, the dvd version i think can do both	02:16
yates	has anyone had luck with the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics touchpad driver?	02:16
^Phantom^	desktop livecd?	02:16
Aquahallic	danbhfive: ty!.. nice read.. makes sense too...;)	02:16
[1]Tony	cosmodad: I have the drivers wrapped with ndiswrapper, the ubuntu wireless manager doens't detect my network though	02:16
[1]Tony	cosmodad: I've had this problem before and i remember having to get a different wireless manager	02:16
carandraug	simester: search for lines with something like Description or Product	02:16
IndyGunFreak	yates: i've used synaptics to just disable my touchpad.. i guess youc ould say thats luck..lol	02:16
crazyl	greetings all, does anyone know if it is possible to install Ubuntu 8.04.1 on a Dell Inspiron 518?	02:16
cosmodad	[1]Tony: what card/wifi chip have you got?	02:16
herenow	man, I rode a motorcycle 40 miles round trip to get this disk just to get busybox	02:17
^Phantom^	is there a livecd I need to get, a separate one, for a laptop?	02:17
seedbox	dr_willis: how would i launch it from /etc/rc.local	02:17
yates	IndyGunFreak: the psmouse driver is buggy - shuts off "double-tap-and-hold to drag" very frequently - i heard the synaptics driver fixes this	02:17
rellis	I have a binary (liblouis lt-xml2brl) that was compiled on Ubuntu 32bit and will not run on a Ubuntu 64bit install on an AMD Phenom system.. should this be expected?	02:17
seedbox	can i PM you dr_willis	02:17
crdlb	kavelot: hardy-backports contains backports for hardy not from hardy	02:17
[1]Tony	cosmodad: It's a Motorola Wireless PCI Adapter WPCI810G	02:17
herenow	how about recovering a totally messed up system where dpkg and apt-get are buggy?	02:17
rellis	The binary returns "No such file or directory" when executed.	02:17
simester	carndraug: Description: Ethernet contoller / Product: AR5413 802.11abg NIC	02:17
dr_willis	seedbox, rc.local is just a script with commands that get ran at boot time.. very simple.. put in the path to the command, it will get ran as root when booting	02:17
cosmodad	[1]Tony: so you have the driver working with ndiswrapper?	02:18
^Phantom^	Do I need to get a special live cd for laptops?	02:18
[1]Tony	cosmodad: Yeah, it says it's installed. ifconfig showed a wlan0 device	02:18
jrib	^Phantom^: no	02:18
HostMark	Hi all	02:19
HostMark	I am in charge of the room here	02:19
HostMark	Please chat nicely	02:19
cosmodad	[1]Tony: can you ping some inet host?	02:19
goulde	hey guys	02:19
jrib	HostMark: do you have a question about ubuntu support?	02:19
HostMark	or you will be removed by HostMark	02:19
HostMark	Hi jrib nice to meet you :)	02:19
yates	if i install the synaptics driver, do i have to do something to uninstall the psmouse driver?	02:19
[1]Tony	cosmodad: No because I can't connect to my wireless network	02:19
HostMark	I am the chat room Moderater for Ubuntu Network	02:20
jrib	HostMark: please stay on topic here. Everything that's not about ubuntu support belongs in #ubuntu-offtopci	02:20
cosmodad	[1]Tony: does AP association work?	02:20
crazyl	so no one had any experience with Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 518?	02:20
cosmodad	[1]Tony: iwconfig will tell you.	02:20
[1]Tony	cosmodad: It doens't show up in the ubuntu wifi manager, I tried putting the stuff in manually too and no luck	02:20
jrib	HostMark: #ubuntu-offtopic even	02:20
HostMark	jrib, Please stop disrupting the room and quit harrasing me, thanks :)	02:20
goulde	here's my problem: I'm very used to ubuntu and especially ubuntu on laptops. However, I wanted to check out Ubuntu Studio and I've got it on my laptop now. Problem is, the support for wireless networking stinks. I want to have it work like ubuntu does where it's got that network switcher/detecor in the upper right. I'm trying to get wifi radar to work but it sucks when you have something that won't automatically detect encryption	02:20
goulde	types	02:20
[1]Tony	cosmodad: Correction iwconfig showed wlan0, ifconfig did not	02:20
goulde	does anyone know what the name of that "applet" they're using in ubuntu 8.04 is so I can install it on ubuntu studio	02:21
cosmodad	[1]Tony: what's your network's encryption type, WEP or WPA?	02:21
^Phantom^	I want to manually configure my partitions, giving linux 12gb and leaving the rest for Windows, which is alread installed	02:22
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hdz-	wierd	02:22
dr_willis	^Phantom^, this is windows XP or vista?	02:22
hdz-	thats what i did phantom	02:22
goulde_	hey guys	02:22
^Phantom^	May I please get guidance	02:22
^Phantom^	XP	02:22
^Phantom^	(i dislike Vista)	02:22
simester	Carandraug: It says "Description: Ethernet contoller / Product: AR5413 802.11abg NIC"	02:22
hdz-	just do the guided thing and size it	02:23
hdz-	it'll work fine	02:23
balrog	how do i change the default handler for pdfs? right now, gedit tries (and fails) to open all my pdfs...	02:23
dr_willis	^Phantom^, i normally use the gparted live cd, boot it, use gparted tor esize the windows partition smaller, leaving a spot of the HD unallocated at the end.	02:23
cocotico	im seting py dell inspiron 6000 and it ge frosen with the partition swap	02:23
[1]Tony	cosmodad: I'm not sure, I do know that there's no security on it	02:23
hdz-	anyone else have hald running	02:23
jrib	!defaultapp > balrog	02:23
ubottu	balrog, please see my private message	02:23
goulde_	I'm running Ubuntu Studio and I'm much more used to Ubuntu 8.04LTS. I just want to see if I can get the awesome wireless/networking switcher that normal ubuntu uses and install it on here. Ubuntu studio sort of sucks at connecting to wireless networks. I like how the built in one for ubuntu scans for networks and detects encruption types.	02:23
IndyGunFreak	simester: thats an atheros device, you shoudl be able to use madwifi w/ it pretty easily	02:23
cosmodad	[1]Tony: then it should be quite easy to get you hooked up by a bunch of CLI commands.	02:23
dr_willis	^Phantom^, if you were using vista. you could use the vista resize tool. and get this task done in about 1/4 of the time.. :) ive herd to NOT use gparted on a vista install. (jiust somthing to rember)	02:23
simester	IndyGunFreak: I'm BRAND new to this. Is that part of Ubuntu or somethng I download?	02:24
hdz-	they all come down to regular scripts man	02:24
IndyGunFreak	simester: something you need to download, hang on	02:24
simester	k	02:24
balrog	jrib: thanks, i didnt see that...	02:24
balrog	jrib: heh, works	02:24
hdz-	who said they instal ndiswrapper	02:24
herenow	does ubuntu-desktop automatically come with postgresql?	02:25
[1]Tony	cosmodad: What commands do I need to run?	02:25
cosmodad	[1]Tony: first, do this: sudo iwconfig wlan0 key off	02:25
carandraug	simester: "AR5413" that's the chip inside your wireless adaptor	02:25
cosmodad	[1]Tony: I'm assuming wlan0 is your wifi device.	02:25
IndyGunFreak	simester: actually, i stand corrected, it looks ilke that device might have some issues w/ ubuntu	02:25
hdz-	it has an sql you can install from cd or orig on cd, doesn't install on startup orig	02:25
cosmodad	[1]Tony: next: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "YourNetworkName"	02:26
hdz-	with regular ubuntu install and wifi if device not supported you copy usb8023.sys and the inf file for the driver with ndiswrapper to get it going just google	02:26
IndyGunFreak	simester: check out post #3, that might help... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778726	02:26
simester	<IndyGunFreak> Nice. Way to kick off the switch. I also have a Linksys Wireless-G w/ SpeedBooster card, but I had the same problem.	02:26
hdz-	oh	02:26
hdz-	i have that card	02:26
hdz-	running it now	02:26
[1]Tony	cosmodad: Is that it?	02:26
hdz-	wusb54gs	02:27
noah	how can i restore my /etc/apt/sources.list to the default, canonical one in gutsy?	02:27
cosmodad	[1]Tony: that's the wifi part, now you need to assign an IP.	02:27
cosmodad	[1]Tony: better yet, do you use DHCP?	02:27
[1]Tony	cosmodad: Yes I do	02:27
^Phantom^	I want to use about 12gigs of my ntfs partition for ubuntu	02:27
cosmodad	[1]Tony: first, tell me if iwconfig wlan0 indicates that you have associated successfully.	02:27
jrib	noah: system -> administration -> sources	02:27
dottedquad	I'm reading how to mount a hfs+ partion and understand the steps. How do I find a device name of my external usb hard drive?	02:28
noah	jrib: hmmm... this is a server that i only have command line access on	02:28
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hdz-	sudo apt-get install ntfs-config	02:28
[1]Tony	cosmodad: Well.. I'm kind of in Windows right now lol.. Let's assume that it does what would I do next to have DHCP assign an IP?	02:28
jrib	noah: :/	02:28
cosmodad	[1]Tony: before you try DHCP, you should make sure that the card works in managed mode using: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed	02:29
jrib	noah: just give yourself hardy, -updates, and -security for main, restricted, universe, and multiverse	02:29
cosmodad	[1]Tony: finally, you'd try: sudo dhclient wlan0 (and pray :) )	02:30
simester	IndyGunFreak: Do you think a Linksys Wireless-G w/ SpeedBooster card may work better?	02:30
jrib	noah: omit anything you don't want. Even though universe and multiverse are not enabled by default, most people enable them	02:30
IndyGunFreak	simester: dunno to be truthful	02:30
[1]Tony	cosmodad: Alright, I'm gonna boot up Ubuntu and try that, Thanks!	02:30
miyako	damn small linux doesn't seem to have been updated in a long time	02:30
cosmodad	[1]Tony: hold on	02:30
c_lisp	im trying to test my cron tab so I put this in it 0 * * * * /usr/bin/gedit but its not load gedit at all anybody can help me?	02:30
[1]Tony	cosmodad: Alright	02:30
jrib	!cron > c_lisp	02:30
ubottu	c_lisp, please see my private message	02:30
jrib	c_lisp: read about gui apps there	02:31
cosmodad	[1]Tony: if dhclient won't allow you to request an IP, you might need to do another "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" first.	02:31
dottedquad85	How do i find my external usb device name so i can mount the hfs+ partition?	02:31
[1]Tony	cosmodad: Alrighty	02:31
Ferry	If I have ubuntu already installed, but would also like to have a windows dual boot added on, what would be the best way to do that	02:31
cosmodad	[1]Tony: that's all. Good luck!	02:31
dottedquad85	i opened up gparted and it didn't find it	02:31
c_lisp	ty	02:31
[1]Tony	cosmodad: Thanks!	02:31
jigp	hello is there any site for shortcut keys for ubuntu desktop 8.04?	02:31
ScheissDrogen	dottedquad85: sudo fdisk-l	02:31
dottedquad85	thx i'll give that a shot	02:32
usser	c_lisp, i think that 0 has to be a 1 to run it every minute	02:32
GamingX	Ferry: I dunno if this is the best option, but I would opt for a Virtual Machine for Windows.	02:32
simester	ok, thx anyway!	02:32
vock	I have a question about OpenSSH: I found my rsa and dsa keys, but it says on the community docs "opening the file .ssh/authorized_keys". I don't have that file, are you supposed to make it?	02:33
jrib	noah: do you understand what you need to do?	02:33
acyclic_graph	hey. I have a permissions problem, I think. All of a sudden I can't edit files on my external HDD. Can anyone help?	02:33
GamingX	Ferry: i.e if you have the resources.	02:33
jrib	acyclic_graph: what filesystem?	02:33
acyclic_graph	vfat	02:33
acyclic_graph	fat32	02:33
usser	Ferry, or put windows on an external hdd and use bios to choose boot device	02:33
noah	jrib: more or less	02:33
jrib	acyclic_graph: did you set anything up in fstab?	02:33
adude	is there a way to turn compiz on and off easily and have it remember my settings?	02:33
Ferry	gamingx what kind of resources would I need	02:33
jrib	noah: if you're not sure, I don't mind looking it over if you pastebin when you are done	02:33
c_lisp	in man it says 0 to 59	02:33
bastid_raZor	vock; can you give me the link you're using?	02:33
noah	jrib: i managed to find what i was looking for tho	02:33
ScheissDrogen	acyclic_graph:pm me , if you want	02:33
acyclic_graph	I didn't, it's been mounting fine for months and this is the first time this has happened	02:34
ScheissDrogen	pm, damn	02:34
vock	bastid_raZor:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto	02:34
noah	jrib: on a machine i had upgraded to hardy, it was there in /etc/apt/sources.list.save	02:34
GamingX	Ferry: I meant system hardware resources to allocate to Windows so that both Ubuntu and Windows can run at a time.	02:34
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rafaelhwm	hello	02:34
rafaelhwm	im having a problem with my usb headset, can somebody help me?	02:34
saik0	how do i get the full path of a bin thats someplace in the PATH	02:34
usser	c_lisp, yea thats minutes 0 * * * * * in this case means run a command every 0th minute	02:34
Ferry	gamingx oh, yeah my comp has been a bit buggy lately, and all I really want windows for is gaming	02:35
jrib	saik0: which some_bin_here	02:35
GamingX	Ferry: If you want it for gaming, then I VM wouldn't be a good idea.	02:35
saik0	jrib, thanks couldint remember for that for some reasomn	02:35
GamingX	Ferry: Dual-Booting would be an option then.	02:35
^Phantom^	would i be better off partitioning from within windows?	02:35
Ferry	Gamingx I know I need to make a separate partition, but all the resources I seem to find are for setting up a dual boot from a clean reformat	02:36
seid	join #c	02:36
janek64	Enter text here...witaj	02:36
bastid_raZor	vock; have you installed openssh-server and openssh-client ?	02:36
carandraug	^Phantom^: to install ubuntu and dual-boot? I think it's better to formate with Ubuntu CD	02:37
GamingX	Ferry: Though I've never tried installing Windows after Ubuntu, (I've done it the other way round) but heres a tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395185&p=2388318	02:38
vock	bastid_raZor: yeah	02:38
Drk_Guy	Hi!	02:38
seedbox	dr_willis: adding to local.rs worked i think but now the program i added to sessions-startup wont start up on startup anymore?	02:38
_Zeus_1	!hi	02:38
ubottu	Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	02:38
dvlper	hi all	02:38
Drk_Guy	lol	02:38
usser	c_lisp, sorry my bad your crontab means run every hour use /5 to specify interval ie /2 * * * * should run every two minutes	02:38
^Phantom^	i want to keep my current partitions intact and my windows install as it is	02:38
dvlper	I have a question about sourcing kernel	02:39
dvlper	?	02:39
Drk_Guy	!wubi \| ^Phantom^	02:39
ubottu	^Phantom^: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.	02:39
Ferry	gamingx thank you for your help.	02:39
dvlper	anyone would help me figure it out	02:39
Drk_Guy	!kernel \| dvlper	02:39
ubottu	dvlper: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages	02:39
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ Wubi is not the best long term solution	02:39
SubOne	When a window needs my attention it flashes. Is there any way to make this flashing more prominent with the human theme? I am constantly missing IMs because I didn't see them	02:39
carandraug	^Phantom^: just be careful when installing Ubuntu. You can create the partitions for Ubuntu from within windows because they have to be as ext3 and whatever for swap	02:39
herenow	wow, this apt does ave super cow powers	02:40
dvlper	I want to understand I have typed apt-get source linux	02:40
GamingX	Ferry: I can't guarantee it to work, you can try though. Also read up the whole thread.	02:40
Syco54645_AAO	why would it be that after using my laptop for a bit nautilus will freeze then when i kill it i cannot reopen it (doesnt give an error, just hangs) along with gnome-terminal. that just hangs as well	02:40
Drk_Guy	herenow, super cow --> root user ;)	02:40
SebNaitsabes	Ferry: see my pm	02:40
dvlper	but the files I got	02:40
^Phantom^	If i format the drive i'll lose the system recovery and system restore utilities provided with the laptop	02:40
SebNaitsabes	Phanton	02:41
SebNaitsabes	wubi	02:41
SebNaitsabes	or virtual machine in Windows	02:41
billy_	hi. i have a problem with my firefox. im on an ubuntu machine, and when im on a webpage, say msn.com, then when I open a new tab, the address bar does change to blank one but rahter keeps msn.com. anyone know how to fix this? it works fine when i run it from root (sudo firefox).	02:41
Syco54645_AAO	and there went the gnome panels as well	02:41
billy_	doesnt* change	02:41
Jack_Sparrow	dvlper What are you trying to do.. that isnt even close	02:41
dvlper	I want to compile e kernel	02:41
dvlper	from source	02:41
Ferry	gamingx I always look before I leap, no reason to risk everything	02:41
seedbox	is there an alternate way for a prog to start on startup then going to sessions startup and adding it	02:41
_Zeus_1	billy_: move your ~/.mozilla directory to ~/.mozilla_bak and see if that fixes it	02:42
RickZilla	Hi gang, I just downloaded the ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso file and saved it to my computer. Do I put it on a cd-rom and run it from there, or what? I was hoping to create a Live CD to try out ubuntu before installing it onto a machine.	02:42
herenow	so how clean will my broken system (boot to command-line, fix apt with install -f) after $sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?	02:42
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ you can shrink the existing windows partition and add an ext3 and swap to the unallocated space	02:42
carandraug	^Phantom^: can't you backup your system as it is with those utilities?	02:42
Rabbitbunny	dvlper: the enter key is not puncuation. type your replies on a single line.	02:42
GamingX	Ferry: Fine then, and good luck :)	02:42
dvlper	ok	02:42
herenow	apt can not remove anything that was built from source, eh?	02:42
carandraug	^Phantom^: you can also do what Jack_Sparrow said and resize the partition. I've heard it's a lot safer nowadays	02:42
Drk_Guy	herenow, no	02:42
Jack_Sparrow	dvlper /join #Kernel	02:42
dvlper	thanks	02:42
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ USe a windows tool like partition magic for that matter	02:43
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herenow	how does the package manager interact with things that are built from source example=postgresql	02:43
^Phantom^	can i resize the partition from on the livecd and keep the windows installation intact and bootable?	02:43
billy_	_Zeus_1, thanks, worked perfectly	02:43
Jack_Sparrow	dvlper np	02:43
Jack_Sparrow	herenow It handles packages.. not things built from source	02:43
carandraug	RickZilla: ueah. Burn the iso into a CD and boot from it. If you want to install with Wubi you can just insert the CD when already in widnows	02:44
Drk_Guy	herenow, everything apt downloads is precompiled, if you want to compiled off everything by yourself, with optimizations for your hardware, then use Gentoo	02:44
^Phantom^	Jack_Sparrow, should I boot into windows before I resize the partitions?	02:44
^Phantom^	Also, I have 1.41 gb unpartitioned...	02:44
herenow	Jack_Sparrow: what if you have redundancies... can you point me documentation about some conf files and how paths are defined and some basics like that?	02:44
RickZilla	carandraug: I just burned it onto a cd...when I try to open it, my Roxio cd creator utility tries to open it up	02:44
RickZilla	Not even sure how to run it from cd right now	02:44
bastid_raZor	vock; have you connected to any where with ssh? it is autogenerated once you actually connect to someplace.	02:44
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ You can use the Ubuntu installer to make the partitions you need, but in your case we are going to hit the 4 primary partition limit	02:45
Jack_Sparrow	herenow not right now no	02:45
carandraug	RickZilla: I never used Wubi. But to test it as liveCD, restart the PC with the CD in there. If you come back to windows, go change the boot order in your BIOS	02:45
carandraug	RickZilla: you know how to change the boot order in the BIOS?	02:45
vock	bastid_raZor: I haven't connected anywhere yet, I have another computer I wanted to ssh into, don't you have to share the key somehow?	02:46
RickZilla	Yeah...F8 on powerup, right?	02:46
herenow	can gentoo get compilers/interpreters with a package manager :P ?	02:46
vock	bastid_raZor: and after get the key, load it into .ssh/authorized_keys ?	02:46
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ You get around the limit by created an extended partition and creating logical partitions on the single extended	02:46
carandraug	RickZilla: it changes from computer from computer I guess. But yeah!	02:46
^Phantom^	Jack_Sparrow, I'll only be putting ubuntu on it.	02:46
michaesaur	you must be kidding. there's a million scripts out there!!	02:46
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ before you do anything.. you need to defrag your windows system.. twice	02:47
Jack_Sparrow	ok	02:47
SubOne	anyone hear my question about panel flashing?	02:47
RickZilla	carandraug: I'll try that first...thanks for your help	02:47
Damin	Hey guys..	02:47
Jack_Sparrow	!seperatehome	02:47
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about seperatehome	02:47
strategy	How do i find out what my IP address is?	02:47
usser	strange, ifconfig	02:47
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ Let me give you a link on making a seperate /home	02:47
strategy	thanks usser	02:47
Damin	Trying to get the word out about Ohio Linuxfest.. Jono Bacon is keynoting, so we're trying to get as many people to pass this along as possible..	02:47
Damin	http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ohio_LinuxFest_2008	02:48
^Phantom^	Will I need to be in windows for this?	02:48
^Phantom^	I'm livecd now...	02:48
Damin	Please digg that and get it out to your LOCO teams / LUGS etc..	02:48
SebNaitsabes	Ferry \| Grub	02:48
michaesaur	Damin: money people as possible?	02:48
SebNaitsabes	!Grub \| Ferry	02:48
ubottu	Ferry: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	02:48
Damin	michaesaur: Sorry.. as "many" people as possible! :)	02:48
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome	02:48
saik0	do backgrounded process continue if you exit the shell	02:49
^Phantom^	I already defragmented once today...	02:49
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ That will make your life easier in the long run	02:49
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Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ as long as you defragged you should be fine.. go into partition editor	02:49
Tina	hi I'm Tina.	02:49
khin	hey i just installed ubuntu hardy but i can't seem to find xchat in the repos. do i need to add some weird repos or something for this?	02:50
mandark	can anyone tell me how to update only a particular package	02:50
^Phantom^	I also deleted like 60 gigs of junk after I did that :D	02:50
Jack_Sparrow	!info xchat	02:50
ubottu	xchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.4-0ubuntu7 (hardy), package size 301 kB, installed size 808 kB	02:50
khin	but universe is enabled and its not there	02:51
Jack_Sparrow	mandark DO you mean to a version newer than in our repos	02:51
mandark	Jack_Sparrow; ya	02:51
Jack_Sparrow	khin sudo apt-get update	02:51
Jack_Sparrow	mandark find a deb or build it yourself	02:51
magbuntu	so, i've got an odd question... is there a way i can get irc in a transparent window.. essentially i want no window at all.. just text on my desktop..	02:51
magbuntu	??	02:51
Bsims	Hrm does the server not allow /list #ubu*?	02:51
Jack_Sparrow	Bsims correct	02:52
mandark	Jack_Sparrow; i wanted 2 update only wine package..can u tell me how	02:52
Bsims	magbuntu: I've seen consoles embeded into a background	02:52
^Phantom^	Why is it so important to defrag in windows? (I'm curious)	02:52
Jack_Sparrow	mandark /join #winehq	02:52
Bsims	Jack_Sparrow: so how does one search it?	02:52
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ because you are going to resize the Windows partition.	02:52
magbuntu	Bsims: ah, .. so i'd have to get like irsii or something? and use the console to do that?	02:52
Bsims	^Phantom^: less important with ntfs but it moves all the freespace together	02:53
carandraug	Bsims: there's a list of them here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat	02:53
Bsims	magbuntu: yeah its what I'd do	02:53
magbuntu	Bsims: marvelous, thanks.	02:53
Bsims	thanks magbuntu	02:53
mandark	Jack_Sparrow; not many ppl ther 2 answer	02:53
Jack_Sparrow	Bsims Sorry to busy atm and I need to go to dinner. THe wife is giving me that look	02:53
bastid_raZor	vock; a key is autogenerated once you make a ocnnection.	02:53
Bsims	er carandraug	02:53
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Jack_Sparrow	mandark that is your only optiuon	02:53
Bsims	magbuntu: I am typing this in a full page terminal but its not the background	02:53
manu__	HI	02:53
dottedquad85	I unplugged and plugged the external drive back in and ubuntu ended up find and auto mounting it for me :-)	02:54
^Phantom^	should i redefrag since I deleted the data AFTER I defragmented?	02:54
magnatop	Bsims: i understand... you've given me a good start tho :) thanks.	02:54
Bsims	magnatop: I really like irssi for a terminal client	02:54
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ absolutely	02:54
ScheissDrogen	dottedquad85:so youre fine ?	02:54
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ deleting those files after blew all sorts of holes in your windows side	02:54
Bsims	magnatop: also apt-get install screen, its basicaly tabs for the terminal and you can disconnect the window and have it still running	02:54
vock	bastid_raZor: So you just make the connection using the root password for a linux box? that seems kinda unsecure	02:55
dottedquad85	SchiessDrogen: yes I am	02:55
Jack_Sparrow	^Phantom^ I dont mean to leave you.. You should find plenty of competent help here.	02:55
^Phantom^	jaakkome	02:55
^Phantom^	Jack_Sparrow	02:55
^Phantom^	before you go	02:55
Jack_Sparrow	yes	02:55
bastid_raZor	vock; no, use your user password on the box you're connecting to. you will need to have a user already set up on the box you are connecting to.	02:55
carandraug	Bsims: magnatop: it's also more than a terminal with tabs. You can split a terminal window into two. Really, really handy	02:55
magnatop	nice.	02:56
magnatop	i'll look into that.	02:56
^Phantom^	should I just virtualbox install ubuntu in windows?	02:56
Bsims	carandraug: indeed never used it that way but last time I egosurfed some dude in china was using my config file	02:56
magnatop	today is my first day having a linux install.. old box.. so i'm learning :)	02:56
Jack_Sparrow	no	02:56
bastid_raZor	vock; with Ubuntu you can not use the root password anyways... unless you've set one and that is bad.	02:56
* Bsims needs to throw it back up to the new webpace		02:56
magnatop	why won't it let me apt-get?	02:56
magnatop	...	02:56
Bsims	magnatop: sudo apt-get	02:56
vock	bastid_raZor: isn't root password the same as user password?	02:57
carandraug	Bsims: I've heard there's a patch to split it vertically as well but I never used it myself	02:57
magnatop	sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntubox	02:57
magnatop	Oo	02:57
Bsims	heh wierd	02:57
Bsims	Oh new slrn version out	02:57
Bsims	magnatop: on a default install?	02:57
vock	bastid_razor: don't you use the user password to get root priveliges?	02:57
magnatop	yes.	02:57
bastid_raZor	vock; the root account password is not the same no, you being in the admin group gives you root privledges	02:57
magnatop	hmm..	02:58
Bsims	magnatop: do me a favor less /etc/hostname and tell me what it says	02:58
magnatop	ubuntubox	02:58
Bsims	Hrm thats right then	02:58
carandraug	magnatop: what error does it give you when you try apt-get install?	02:58
magnatop	E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)	02:59
magnatop	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?	02:59
Strav	he. I'm experiencing suspend problems since kernel 2.6.24 (most probably due/linked to the change from proc/acpi to sys/acpi)... When resuming from suspend, it seems that the system do resume but my video card (ati radeon mobility 7500) goes beserk. I thought it might be the framebuffer drivers I had activated but blacklisting them won't solve the problem. Any suggestion?	02:59
strategy	magnatop, 'sudo apt-get install .....'	02:59
carandraug	magnatop: "sudo apt-get install nameofpackage"	02:59
Bsims	and its sudo, and you don't have synaptic or anything else up	02:59
magnatop	hehe	02:59
magnatop	oh	02:59
strategy	magnatop, you must be root to do administrative stuff. You ever used vista? sudo is the equiveant of "run as administrator"	02:59
Bsims	magnatop: sudo apt-get install synaptic	03:00
Bsims	synaptic is a nice gui for apt	03:00
magnatop	oh	03:00
magnatop	haha	03:00
magnatop	there it goes :)	03:00
strategy	magnatop, "sudo ..command.." runs "..command.." with administrative privelages	03:00
Strav	btw any news on the gui for aptitude? (was on google summer of code if I'm right)	03:00
magnatop	strategy: gotcha	03:00
Bsims	magnatop: want me to tell you the most important command for linux?	03:00
vock	bastid_razor: So if i set up my ssh badly, and someone can log into my only user at the moment, then they are in the admin group and since they know my user pwd, they can use that to gain root priv?	03:00
magnatop	Bsims: yes :)	03:01
Bsims	magnatop: man man its the manual for the manual system	03:01
magnatop	lol	03:01
Bsims	Heh you laugh, saved my butt before	03:01
magnatop	Bsims: thanks :)	03:01
strategy	magnatop, no joke	03:01
strategy	it's by far the most important imho	03:01
steph3	hiya	03:01
strategy	type `man [any command or program name here]'	03:01
strategy	it'll give you tons of info on it	03:01
Strav	and then there's the classic: apt-get remove --purge libc6 --yes-I-am-aware-I-m-scraping-my-system	03:01
bastid_raZor	vock; correct. by using sudo in CLI or gksudo to launch a gui application with root privileges.	03:01
carandraug	magnatop: they're all talking serious. It's the command you'll use the most in Linux	03:02
magnatop	well, in that case, i better go find my reading glasses :)	03:02
vock	bastid_razor: Is there a way to make it so someone can't ssh into my admin group user then?	03:02
magnatop	sudo apt-get install screen	03:02
magnatop	er..	03:02
bastid_raZor	vock; don't give them your password.	03:02
Strav	magnatop: I might suggest you the "info" instead of man pages...	03:02
Strav	if you wish to get a more structured view on that are the basics of your system	03:03
carandraug	magnatop: you can also check a man page of configuration files to learn what to do with it, not only of programs.	03:03
vock	bastid_raZor: heh, i guess, no way to disable access though?	03:03
magnatop	wow, thats very helpfull.	03:03
Bsims	magnatop: linux is helpful	03:03
RickZilla	Ok gang...I put ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso on a cd-rom, changed my boot sequence so that the cd drive would boot first, verified it, restarted, then...nothing. Windows booted as usual...can somebody suggest something I'm doing wrong?	03:04
seedbox	whats the best ubuntu torrent client besides transmission that gui	03:04
bastid_raZor	vock; disable ssh you mean? 'access' meaning?	03:04
Bsims	If I was making a distro first time you opened a command prompt it would show it	03:04
Strav	Bsims: yea, and that's because you often need help.	03:04
ScheissDrogen	!best \| seedbox	03:04
ubottu	seedbox: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.	03:04
Bsims	Strav: but eventually it all makes sense	03:04
strategy	RickZilla, did you burn it using the normal windows burning utility?	03:04
seedbox	god damnit just name some	03:04
ScheissDrogen	seedbox : try ktorrent or opera	03:04
strategy	RickZilla, if you did that, the CD isnt 'bootable'.	03:04
tj83	RickZilla, did you write the .iso to disk or write the image from .iso?	03:04
seedbox	thanks	03:04
bastid_raZor	!torrent \| seedbox	03:04
ubottu	seedbox: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P	03:04
Bsims	seedbox: apt-cache show torrent\|less\|sort	03:04
ScheissDrogen	lol	03:05
steph3	i got a prob, if i start xchat on ubuntu it opens but if close after one sec	03:05
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vock	bastid_raZor: disable ssh, or disable ssh capabilities into specific accounts, beyond just not giving out passwords?	03:05
RickZilla	strategy and tj83: I burned the file to a cd like I would any other file...is there another way of doing that? creating a bootable cd?	03:05
Bsims	steph3: open it from a command line	03:05
strategy	RickZilla, yes. See this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto	03:05
Bsims	RickZilla: Ahh you need to actually burn the iso	03:05
steph3	im new to ubuntu	03:05
steph3	whats the commandline?	03:05
RickZilla	ok...back I go, lol....thanks for the quick and generous help	03:05
Strav	Bsims: linux is quite well documented yea, but most of the time, you'd wish to keep that doc away and focus on your main occupation (that MIGHT NOT BE operating systems)	03:06
strategy	RickZilla, No problem :P	03:06
ScheissDrogen	steph3 : terminal	03:06
steph3	danke	03:06
steph3	ty*	03:06
ScheissDrogen	schon ok	03:06
carandraug	RickZilla: you can select burn iso with some utilities or mount it to a virtual drive and choose copy CD. Those ways are correct. If you open the iso and just copy the files to a CD, that's not the correct way	03:06
ScheissDrogen	!gr	03:06
ubottu	#ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές / #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes	03:06
bastid_raZor	vock; it would be best to come up with a well crafted password. more than 10 letters with numbers and letters.	03:06
ScheissDrogen	!de	03:06
ubottu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	03:06
steph3	whats tjhe exactly cmd in terminal to open it?	03:06
dvlper	any help on apt-get source	03:06
dvlper	?	03:07
Strav	argh I'll do some more google on my resume from suspend problem.	03:07
steph3	drogen ty , but i use english language on ubuntu	03:07
Bsims	Strav: heh yeah true enough, but do you know what sold me on linux? I asked for help in a mailinglist with a problem, got a response within 30 minutes BY the guy who wrote the program	03:07
ScheissDrogen	steph3 : see pm	03:07
Nigra4justice	irc.partyvan.fm	03:07
steph3	ty	03:07
Nigra4justice	FUCKING	03:07
tj83	dvlper, what are you trying to install?	03:07
Nigra4justice	]GOD DAMNIT	03:07
FloodBot1	Nigra4justice: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:07
IndyGunFreak	lol	03:07
pirate	I'm having a problem with my fstab. I have two hard drives. However, they seem to argue about which one is sda and which is sdb. One has a partition I want to always mount at a certain point, the other I could care less about. Both are NTFS. Can someone help me out?	03:08
vock	bastid_raZor: thanks for your help, and now i have a long winded passwd to type everytime i need to sudo	03:08
carandraug	Bsims: yes. That's one of the best things from Linux and it's often overlooked by new users	03:09
tj83	pirate, /join #ubuntu	03:09
pirate	... I'm in that room, I believe	03:09
tj83	pirate, /join #seaphor i mean	03:09
bastid_raZor	vock; that is better than having your system compromised.	03:09
tj83	lol	03:09
Bsims	carandraug: you know how in pan you can drag and drop collumn layouts? that was my idea	03:09
Bsims	Sorry seeing my name in the changelog sold me for life	03:10
bastid_raZor	!sudo > vock: read this. it may give you some hints.	03:10
* Bsims laughs been windows free from 2000		03:11
carandraug	Bsims: hehe! That's good for the ego as well. I had to google what pan is 'cos I don't use it.	03:11
Bsims	carandraug: used to stand for pimp ass newsreader	03:12
Bsims	carandraug: what got me was I can explore and learn as deep as I want	03:13
Bsims	If I care I can look and see why it does what it does	03:13
bastid_raZor	vock; since ubottu is lagging:: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	03:13
Ice_Max	I having problems with my download manager, its saying Could not download all repository indexes	03:14
vock	bastid_raZor: thanks for everyting	03:14
Wii60	So, I've got one of the wierder tech support questions if someone wants to give it a shot	03:14
Bsims	Ice_Max: it happens try again in a bit	03:14
Bsims	Wii60: go for it	03:14
carandraug	Bsims: I started with it just 'cos I wanted something different. I stayed 'cos I enjoyed to know how things actually work, like you	03:15
steph3	brb	03:15
Wii60	Well, I'm running ubuntu on my old Gateway M680, I installed because windows locked up no BSOD, just froze, after about 5 mins of use	03:15
Wii60	also the USB ports didn't work	03:15
Bsims	carandraug: heh only reason I'm on ubuntu? at the time my hd died, ubuntu had a working installer and sid was in one of its you cant upgrade modes	03:15
harushimo	hey everyone	03:15
Bsims	this was back when woody? I think was stable	03:16
harushimo	question	03:16
Wii60	I'm running Ubuntu, just fine, after many reinstalls of windows, so obviously its hardware, but what makes ubuntu work here and not windows?	03:16
shakaponk	hey guys	03:16
Ice_Max	its saying this as well	03:16
Ice_Max	"Failed to fetch http://98111.free.fr/apt/dists/gutsy/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found	03:16
Ice_Max	Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."	03:16
Ice_Max	and every time i check it does it, its been doing it for a while.	03:16
vock	bastid_raZor: now i wish i picked a better username as well	03:16
FloodBot1	Ice_Max: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:16
harushimo	my internet is cutting out on ubuntu. I don't understand why	03:16
harushimo	I checked my router. the traceroute and ping is working	03:16
Bsims	Wii60: sounds like your motherboard died, does it work under linux?	03:16
Wii60	yeah works great under linux, but no USB support	03:16
noah	harushimo: what doesn't work?	03:16
carandraug	Bsims: I started with Ubuntu but then tried archlinux. Still using it in another computer. I found it best to learn. But we're getting a bit offtopic now	03:17
Bsims	Hrm could be the controler, go into bios and disable usb if you can	03:17
bastid_raZor	vock; you can always create a new user.	03:17
harushimo	I think the NIC card isn't functioning properly	03:17
harushimo	it works now	03:17
Wii60	ok, I'll give that a go, thanks man	03:17
tonsofpcs	what's a NIC card?	03:17
magnatop	nic card is redundant :)	03:17
magnatop	:)	03:17
harushimo	your right it is redundant	03:17
magnatop	:)	03:17
harushimo	nic card is integrated with motherboard	03:18
Bsims	Wii60: hey no problem	03:18
Bsims	Wii60: I got my mainboard from newegg	03:18
harushimo	how can test for it	03:18
harushimo	you*	03:18
Bsims	they and the forums on line can steer you to one that works with linux and newegg has a good return policy	03:18
vock	bastid_raZor: If i made a new user, copied everythign from the old home directory to the new home directory, would that be effectively just chaning the user names, or would i need to do something else?	03:18
Ice_Max	what does it mena when it says this	03:18
harushimo	pidgin always get disconnected. if I'm watching a video, its buffers a very long time	03:18
usser	vock, nope thats about it	03:18
shakaponk	i'm a linux beginner, and i've installed on a ubuntu server edition vm x window with install ubuntu-desktop and then uninstalled it... now i have an ubuntu recovery menu after shutdown... what does it mean and how can i remove it?	03:19
usser	vock, the only thing i'd just in case is change ownership of your home	03:19
Bsims	shakaponk: hrm means it left grub installed	03:19
Ice_Max	Failed to fetch http://98111.free.fr/apt/dists/gutsy/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found	03:19
harushimo	what would be a solutions for that	03:19
Ice_Max	Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.	03:19
Bsims	shakaponk: did you install over windows?	03:19
HillmN	wats up everyone	03:19
harushimo	or an idea whats going on	03:19
bastid_raZor	vock; right create the new user copy your current /home/user to home/newuser then chmod the file to the newuser and you're basically done.	03:19
Bsims	Ice_Max: nothing to worry about means that one is down	03:19
Ice_Max	how do i remove it?	03:20
shakaponk	Bsims: sorry cant follow you. i've installed in a clean ubuntu server apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and then apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop	03:20
bastid_raZor	vock; chmod the /home/newuser directory that is.. chmod -R newuser /home/newuser	03:20
harushimo	i'm just trying to think do I need to get a new mobo or not	03:21
Bsims	Ice_Max: you mean the entry entirely	03:21
harushimo	thats why	03:21
Ice_Max	assuming i can update fine without, yeah	03:21
Bsims	shakaponk: Hrm try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop	03:21
bastid_raZor	vock; you would need to do that with sudo also. then add the newuser to the admin group and anything else your previous user was apart of.	03:21
usser	bastid_raZor, vock thats actually chown -R newuser:newuser /home/newuser	03:21
Bsims	Ice_Max: you will be able to	03:21
Bsims	Ice_Max: apt is smart	03:21
shakaponk	Bsims: but i don't want the desktop...	03:21
Eleaf	How can I save wireless networks that have hidden essids? I have to re-enter the wpa key every time I unsuspend my laptop ;S.	03:22
Bsims	shakaponk: somethings may depend on it	03:22
bastid_raZor	usser; technically the group doesn't matter but it can't hurt.	03:22
Bsims	edit init to not start x then	03:22
^Phantom^	would 8 gigs be sufficient enough for a fixed-size virtual hard drive for ubuntu?	03:22
ChrisULM	when I boot my computer, the normal ubuntu boot screen loads up but then it goes to scrolling text instead of the nice loading bar. The system boots up fine, but how do i go back to the normal boot splash?	03:22
Bsims	^Phantom^: yeah	03:22
shakaponk	Bsims: is there a possibility to remove them? i want the server like it was after the installation	03:23
strategy	^Phantom^, ubuntu needs around 4GB, so that'll be good enough for ubuntu + some programs	03:23
yates	what isn't my .bash_profile getting executed?	03:23
Bsims	shakaponk: that will install it back just as it was	03:23
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Bsims	Hrm I am assuming you don't want xserver?	03:23
shakaponk	Bsims: no	03:23
^Phantom^	i was considering 12	03:24
ChrisULM	anyone know how to replace the boot screen?	03:24
Ice_Max	Bsims: i found it in the 3rd party tabs in the software sources manager, its safe to uncheck it right?	03:24
strategy	^Phantom^, depends on if you'll need more than 4GB of applications	03:24
Bsims	shakaponk: apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop	03:24
Bsims	shakaponk: then apt-get uninstall xorg	03:24
yates	what isn't my .bash_profile getting executed? this is when popping up an xterm	03:24
adiabatic	Is there a program included with Ubuntu that'll reformat and set up to automount a new HD that I just installed?	03:25
^Phantom^	but 8 seems more practical for the amount of data i moved from my internal hdd to my external	03:25
Bsims	Ice_Max: correct, or if you want I can tell you how to do it manually	03:25
Bsims	adiabatic: gparted	03:25
adiabatic	thanks	03:25
ScheissDrogen	!repeat \| yates	03:25
ubottu	yates: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience	03:25
^Phantom^	all of it backed up, some moved	03:25
shakaponk	Bsims: thx, i'll try	03:25
^Phantom^	it was like 30-40 gigs	03:25
yates	SheissDrogen: added info - sorry for th e repeititiontiontiontiontiontion... :)	03:26
Ice_Max	Bsims: Nah, as long as everything updates Ok the way it is now thats fine.	03:26
mal3	what's the console command for restricted manager?	03:26
yates	ubottu: i love you	03:26
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about i love you	03:26
ScheissDrogen	adiabatic:use gparted	03:26
yates	ubottu: .bash_profile	03:26
adiabatic	ScheissDrogen, Bsims: thanks	03:26
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about bash_profile	03:26
Bsims	Not a problem ya all	03:26
yates	ubottu: bash	03:26
harushimo	one more question, does dban for i386 work with core 2 duo	03:26
ubottu	The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal	03:26
^Phantom^	i'll go with 10 :D	03:27
strlng	I just installed Ubuntu server but for some reason when doing an apt-get update all the index files are returning 404s	03:27
ScheissDrogen	mal3 : sources. list is the files determines your software-base	03:27
Bsims	harushimo: i386 will work with anything later than and including an intel 386 you tell me	03:27
ScheissDrogen	file	03:27
harushimo	isn't core 2 duo under i486 or later	03:27
Ice_Max	One more thing; is there any way to make it so that when i press the mouse wheel down i can move the mosue up or down to scrool through documents or web pages?	03:28
harushimo	i386 were the late 90's processor like pentium	03:28
harushimo	that's what I'm wondering	03:28
hdevalence	WHere would I request an application be added to the Ubuntu repositories?	03:28
Bsims	harushimo: No I mean intell 386 pentium is 586	03:28
ScheissDrogen	harushimo: you're asking 'bout 64 or 32 bit	03:28
subone	Does anyone know if there's a way to make the gnome-panel flash brighter and more noticable when a window needs my attention?	03:28
Bsims	so it will work	03:28
harushimo	yeah	03:28
Bsims	harushimo: I beleve the default is still 32 bit	03:29
harushimo	I have core 2 duo which I think 64 bit	03:29
Bsims	but a core 2 duo can be either	03:29
Bsims	what version of ubuntu did you install 32 or 64	03:29
^Phantom^	i have put 512mb ram as base memory for the linux virtual hd, will that be sufficient for most applications to run smoothly	03:29
harushimo	ubuntu 64	03:29
Bsims	^Phantom^: should be	03:29
Rev	hi	03:29
harushimo	i know that	03:29
ScheissDrogen	harushimo: 32 is still better supported and 64 only brings a slighty advantage until you want to run tons of ram	03:29
Bsims	then its 64 bit all in how that app was compiled	03:30
bastid_raZor	harushimo; even if it is 64bit .. 64bit Ubuntu has many issues that an intermediate user will have trouble with. it is recommended to use 32bit for less hassle.	03:30
Rev	I just tried to change my fonts under xfce, and now, letters dont appear anymore in firefox on some sites	03:30
Rev	like they do in google news, but they dont in facebook	03:30
Rev	any idea?	03:30
Rev	i tried to restore the original police, without any chance	03:30
harushimo	oh okay...I'm doing a reinstall, so its better to have 32 bit even with a core 2 duo processor	03:30
harushimo	that's what I'm understanding	03:30
^Phantom^	512 is half my ram	03:30
arooni	can someone tell me how i can get a microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 to get its back/forward buttons working correctly (in firefox to go back/forward but also in nautilus to navigate folders etc)? right the back button on mouse = middle button, and forward button = right click.	03:31
anthony	hello. Got questions about my graphics card driver setup. Any takers?	03:31
^Phantom^	(i will be upgrading to 2gigs of ram soon)	03:31
^Phantom^	(when i finally get enough money saved up :D)	03:31
david73	hi all	03:31
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ScheissDrogen	anthony : hich card ?	03:31
ScheissDrogen	!hi	03:31
ubottu	Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	03:31
* fserve Looking for notebooks com vga BOA por menos de 2k, PVT : P		03:31
ScheissDrogen	anthony : which card ?	03:31
harushimo	i've been using ubuntu 64. I haven't had any problems but I have problems with 8.10	03:32
anthony	thanks scheiss	03:32
bringatowel	!es \| fserve	03:32
ubottu	fserve: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	03:32
pirate	I'm having a problem. Sometimes when I boot up my computer my partition I want fstab to mount is sda2, other times it's sdb2. Why does it seem to randomly swap?	03:32
anthony	I have an via motherboard with an s3 prosavage8 chipset on board	03:32
SaraSmith	where can i download ubuntu 8.4 ? (assuming there isn't a kubuntu)	03:32
Bsims	^Phantom^: unless you are using more than 4gigs of ram 32bit will suit you nicely	03:32
david73	just installed it the other day	03:32
bringatowel	!uuid \| pirate	03:32
ubottu	pirate: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)	03:32
fserve	bringatowel, sorry, was a /amsg thing	03:32
^Phantom^	32bit it is	03:32
khin	whenever i click a text file gnome / nautilus says "blah is an executable text file. Would you like to run it or display it." How do I set things so that it always displays it ( .py files should display in emacs, for instance... )	03:32
outbackwifi	hi there	03:32
^Phantom^	no 64bit processors	03:32
ScheissDrogen	pirate : removable drive, see bringatowel	03:33
bringatowel	fserve, hehe no prob, just trying to get you support in whatever language	03:33
cygoku	I screwed up big time. My biggest resolution is now 640x480 instead of 1280x800 ! :( I am under a laptop with an ati x1400 card.	03:33
fserve	: )	03:33
fserve	portuguese btw	03:33
outbackwifi	khin: change file associations	03:33
fserve	but, dont worry	03:33
Ice_Max	is there any way to make it so that when i press the mouse wheel down i can move the mouse up or down to scroll through documents or web pages?	03:33
khin	outbackwifi where	03:33
fserve	i want buy a new laptop with a good gfx	03:33
ScheissDrogen	!who \| anthony	03:33
ubottu	anthony: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)	03:33
ScheissDrogen	anthony : which card ?	03:34
Bsims	Ice_Max: in what browser?	03:34
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bringatowel	fserve, ah lol yeah im not always able to tell those apart (at least not in 10 words or less)	03:34
Ice_Max	Bsims: Firefox	03:34
anthony	scheissDrogen: sysinfo identifies my graphics card as a VT8475 ProSavage8 km266/kl266	03:34
^Phantom^	is 512 enough for running video-editing applications on ubuntu?	03:34
Ice_Max	Bsism: doesnt work in any app actually	03:34
orionr	is there a way to download .debs using apt-get with out installing them?	03:35
Bsims	Hrm wierd	03:35
Bsims	orionr: I just use wget or firefox for that, why?	03:35
magnatop	alright, sweet, now i just have to figure out how to get out of 800x600 :)	03:35
flip	ok so after playing w/ my new laptop and ubuntu today for quite some time... i finally got wireless working; soft of	03:35
bringatowel	^Phantom^, it should work, just depends what size videos, and how fast it will be processed, also what program you use	03:35
flip	i was using the wrong drivers.. and thinking it had a differant chipset then it actually does	03:35
cygoku	I screwed up big time. My biggest resolution is now 640x480 instead of 1280x800 ! :( I am under a laptop with an ati x1400 card.	03:35
khin	anyone know how to make nautilus display my text files automatically instead of asking me whether they should be displayed or run as scripts	03:35
flip	i can connect to the ssid now ---- but i get no traffic	03:35
khin	this is kind of annoying	03:35
orionr	Bsims: our school has a matlab package it its repo but you can only install it if your oncampus and i have a friend who is off campus so i'm trying to get that for him.	03:36
captain	quick question, I just input "uptime" in terminal and along with the time it says 2 users. There are not 2 users, could that be because of my Virtual Machine?	03:36
bringatowel	orionr, have you tried octave or scilab?	03:36
orionr	its not for me but i believe the teacher requires matlab.	03:36
bringatowel	khin, are they set as executable for some reason?	03:36
Zikey	Hi, what command can i use to know if i run 8.04 or 8.04.1 ?	03:36
ScheissDrogen	captain: root and standard user ?	03:37
flip	can anyone think of any reason i cant ping my router... although i have a static address and i am connected to the wireless ssid?	03:37
markys-l	captain: type "w" in the console to see who is logged in and where	03:37
bastid_raZor	Zikey; lsb_release -a	03:37
Zikey	thx bastid :)	03:37
khin	bringatowel if i click a text file i get a dialog that says, "Do you want to run blah, or display its contents? Blah is an executable text file."	03:37
captain	ScheissDrogen: sounds bout right, should have known thanks	03:38
bringatowel	captain, i have 2 logged in users, but im not running any vm	03:38
Bsims	orionr: download it next time you are on, and it will be in /var/cache/apt/archives/	03:38
captain	markys-l it was me twice, locations 0 and 0.0	03:38
bastid_raZor	caplink811_log; that is your GUI and terminal.. each show as a seperate entity of you running... i have 12 users atm	03:38
Prose	besides OSSEC, anyhthing required to have a safe ssh connection opened to the interwebs ?	03:38
bastid_raZor	captain; ^^^^	03:38
outbackwifi	khin: right-click on the file in nautilus, click on properties and open-with and then choose the preferred application eg gedit	03:39
bringatowel	khin, enable the permissions column in the file browser, or go to shell and type "ls -l" and see if they are set to executable	03:39
feles	Hello all	03:39
markys-l	captain: yep, tty7 is your gui	03:39
st3ph	:D	03:39
feles	Quick question really: Is it possible to install Windows after installing Ubuntu?	03:39
feles	(in a dual boot environment)	03:39
captain	markys-l awesome, knew there was a simple answer, thanks	03:39
flip	feles: sure	03:39
flip	feles: after you install windows though --- youll have to use the ubuntu cd to reinstall the grub boot mangaer	03:40
feles	Most walkthroughs I'm finding are talking about having windows installed first	03:40
feles	ooh, ok	03:40
flip	feles: its easier to install windows first... but totally not required.	03:40
Ikarius	hey folks... I just read the ubuntu wiki on compiling packages and found a few bits of the documentation insufficient. anyone willing to help me with what I need to do to build an 8.10 package for 8.04?	03:40
Bsims	Ikarius: sure let me google	03:40
Ikarius	I hope it's not as simple as google... I found the wiki page with that	03:41
Bsims	Ikarius: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html#s-dh_make then http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-build.en.html	03:41
Ikarius	I read that Bsims	03:41
flip	in 8.04 when i connected to my wireless lan... i had an applet showing the reception up top (this is a stock install) all of a sudden its back to the 2 black monitors and i have no connectivity	03:41
flip	how do i get it back?	03:41
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Bsims	Ikarius: so its dh_make --createorig; then sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot	03:41
Bsims	Ikarius: then dpkg -i whatever.deb	03:42
Bsims	er sudo dpkg	03:42
cygoku_	Huh hello ??	03:43
cygoku_	I have a laptop that can no longer be in 1280x800 resolution, I am stuck at 640x480	03:44
Ikarius	trying the dh_make route... I was reading docs on the pbuilder route	03:44
khin	bringatowel i typed ls -l and it includes x ... but i want to be able to execute text files potentially ... i just don't want it to ever happen from nautilus	03:44
Ikarius	pbuilder route looked a bit... heavyweight	03:44
patrickmn	cygoku_: shy do you think you are stuck at that resolution?	03:44
patrickmn	*why	03:45
cygoku_	patrickmn : I don't know, I guess that's why I am here no ?	03:45
bringatowel	khin, hmm not sure about that, what i would do is chmod them all to disable execution, then you can still execute them from the command line using "sh filename"	03:45
Kai_wp	I see this video I'm trying to play in both VLC and Totem Movie Player both display it interlaced. I don't think it's supposed to appear like this. Is there anyway to de-interlace it?	03:45
starn_	can anyone help me really fast? for my ubuntu keeps locking up.... and its a fresh install and freshly updated	03:46
Kai_wp	I didn't notice the interlacing in Windows, so it's either that it's playing it interlaced when it shouldn't be, or in Windows it was de-interlaced.	03:46
cygoku_	...	03:46
khin	bringatowel how would i disable it for all text files	03:46
patrickmn	cygoku_: have you went into the system > preferences > screen resolution and tried to change it?	03:46
bringatowel	Kai_wp, there are some options in vlc to de-interlace, don't recall which to try exactly	03:46
adiabatic	Is there something that'll help me automount a freshly-installed /dev/sdb, or do I need to modify /etc/mtab myself?	03:47
myo	hey guys, does anyone know why my computer would be running in top shape, and when I steped out for a couple hours, now it complains that my user is not in the sudoers file?	03:47
cygoku_	patrickmn : I get the same, max is 640x480 :(	03:47
cygoku_	Wich is rly bad :(	03:48
starn_	can anybody help me fix my freeze ups with ubuntu? i just reinstalled it and it is giving me lockup issues now...	03:48
ianliu_88	When I log on Ubuntu, sometimes my panel itens (tray icons, clock, sound, etc) get unordered even if they are locked... How can I fix this?	03:48
Ikarius	grumble. dh_make is giving me trouble with getting the version correct	03:48
patrickmn	cygoku_: are you using restricted drivers?	03:48
^Phantom^	k	03:48
strategy	myo, are you sure you didnt just log into an account without sudoer privelages?	03:48
vantrigge2	guys, im downloading something in terminal and i got disconnected. now it doesnt seem like it's still downloading. how do i make it resume?	03:48
Ikarius	version is 3.1.1-1ubuntu1, it's giving me version 1ubuntu1 and leaving 3.1.1 attached to the package name.	03:48
cygoku_	patrickmn : Yes I am using the restricted drivers and compiz works good.	03:49
^Phantom^	my virtual linux is not letting me select a display resolution above 800x600 <_<	03:49
myo	strategy: yes, there's only one account on this computer (laptop), and it was logged in the whole time I was gone	03:49
strategy	^Phantom^, are you running it on MS VirtualPC?	03:49
Bricker	does anyone know anything about the program called fuppes?	03:49
ScheissDrogen	!xen	03:49
ubottu	XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen	03:49
bringatowel	khin, not sure, you could try "chmod -R 644 *.txt"	03:49
^Phantom^	VirtualBox	03:49
patrickmn	cygoku_: bare with me a little, I am noob to linux, just made the switch last week	03:49
n-iCe	oidentd uses my user name as ident, is there a way to change it, without create a new user?	03:49
eblume	Hi! I need to transfer a Very Large File (8.8 gigs) from an Ubuntu machine to a ista machine. They are connected on a wireless network, and I am computer savvy. The wireless transfer speed would take 3 hours.	03:49
eblume	My question is - how hard is it to set up a crossover ethernet connection to speed it up?	03:49
cygoku_	patrickmn : Okay ! :(	03:49
bringatowel	adiabatic, don't you mean /etc/fstab ?	03:50
ScheissDrogen	!xen > st3ph	03:50
patrickmn	cygoku_: I think that you may need to verify that you are using the correct driver, what kind of laptop are you using? have you had larger resolution before?	03:50
strategy	^Phantom^, i have a friend who uses VPC(not sure about virtualbox), but he says vpc doesnt have a virtual video card	03:50
pirate	!uuid	03:50
ubottu	To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)	03:50
adiabatic	bringatowel: most likely	03:50
IndyGunFreak	eblume: 10gig thumb drive maybe?	03:50
eblume	IndyGunFreak, I know it's gasp-worthy, but the biggest I have on me is 512 MiB.	03:50
bringatowel	adiabatic, there is a disk manager package that will give you a gui	03:51
^Phantom^	eblume, i normally connect both to the router with ethernet cables	03:51
magnatop	eblume: have you ever made a cat5 cable?	03:51
strategy	^Phantom^, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto	03:51
eblume	magnatop, I have, and I have both crossover and noncrossover at hand.	03:51
cygoku_	patrickmn : I am using the correct driver I know that because I installed many times before. I have a laptop DELL Inspiron with an ATI card and I use to have 1280x800 as default resolution	03:51
adiabatic	bringatowel: do you happen to know the name?	03:51
myo	does anyone have any ideas about my sudo problem? I can't do anything with this machine now, and su is disabled in ubuntu	03:51
IndyGunFreak	eblume: couple blank DVDR's?(like 4.9gigs eachi think)	03:51
strategy	^Phantom^, that should fix it	03:51
magnatop	oh, hmm..	03:51
adiabatic	I'm in gparted, but it doesn't seem to fiddle with fstab	03:51
Bricker	if i need to install a dependency for a program, do i have to reinstall the program and the dependency at the same time.... or can i install the dependency later after the fact and gain all the functionality?	03:51
^Phantom^	but it might not be practical for you	03:51
eblume	IndyGunFreak, do you know the command to split a g'zipped tar into 4.9 gig chunks?	03:51
jrib	myo: what is the output of 'groups'?	03:51
IndyGunFreak	eblume: sorry id on't	03:52
bringatowel	adiabatic, try searching for disk in add/remove	03:52
st3ph	!xen	03:52
ubottu	XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen	03:52
myo	jrib: @#$$! it just says disk	03:52
IndyGunFreak	eblume: youd ont by chance have an old hard drive laying arund do you?	03:52
myo	the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.	03:52
myo	myo@myoX61:~$ sudo visudo	03:52
myo	[sudo] password for myo:	03:52
myo	myo is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.	03:52
myo	myo@myoX61:~$ cat /etc/sudoers	03:52
FloodBot1	myo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:52
eblume	IndyGunFreak, Saddly no.	03:52
myo	cat: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied	03:52
patrickmn	i looked at the link that [STRATEGY] posted and it recommends to run the auto max display script have you looked at that page?	03:52
IndyGunFreak	eblume: are yo pretty savy w/ computer hardware?	03:52
jrib	myo: there you go. Reboot in "recovery mode" and do: sudo adduser YOUR_USER admin	03:52
bringatowel	adiabatic, it's called "disk management" in add/remove	03:52
Bricker	anyone know??	03:53
vantrigge2	guys, im downloading something in terminal and i got disconnected. now it doesnt seem like it's still downloading. how do i make it resume?	03:53
strategy	patrickmn, that doesnt help in most cases, but adding the video resoultion (lower down) will work in some cases	03:53
jrib	Bricker: how are you installing?	03:53
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strategy	patrickmn, if you try all of that, at least one solution should work	03:53
jrib	vantrigge2: how are you downloading?	03:53
patrickmn	thanks strategy, thats good to know	03:54
strategy	patrickmn, good luck =]	03:54
vantrigge2	jrib: cd compiz-git	03:54
vantrigge2	./compiz-git install	03:54
khin	outbackwifi bringatowel i found the solution, you must go in nautilus to edit ->	03:54
Bricker	bricker: i installed a program called fuppes via terminal a few days ago.... today i found out it would have been useful if i have an optional dependency installed for it... i want to know if i have to reinstall the whole thing now? (i'm a linux newbie)	03:54
Bricker	err, i meant jrib :)	03:55
khin	preferences -> behavior and then alter the setting for text files	03:55
outbackwifi	khin: godo for you	03:55
outbackwifi	khin: good for you	03:55
binarycodes	i am making a 250GB partition for storing video files, will XFS be a proper filesystem for this?	03:55
Bricker	jrib: i installed a program called fuppes via terminal a few days ago.... today i found out it would have been useful if i have an optional dependency installed for it... i want to know if i have to reinstall the whole thing now? (i'm a linux newbie)	03:55
jrib	vantrigge2: depends on how the program handles the missing dependency really. Compiz-fusion is in the repos though	03:55
khin	i tried to install compiz-fusion a while back and it said it wasn't compatible with my hardware	03:55
bringatowel	khin, oh cool, good to know =)	03:56
patrickmn	cygoku_: you may have to go in to your xconf and view if the option for higher resolution is in there	03:56
vantrigge2	jrib: Pulling atlantis2 from git... was the last statement.	03:56
vantrigge2	jrib: and doesnt seem like it's moving	03:56
myo	jrib: sorry, it pasted all that stuff in there an confused the heck out of irssi	03:56
jrib	vantrigge2: ignore my first sentence as I thought you were Bricker. It's totally up to that random script as to how you resume a download. Try asking the #compiz-fusion channel	03:56
IndyGunFreak	eblume: ths is reasonably inexpensive, and more versatile than a thumb drive... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822242006	03:56
vantrigge2	jrib: ok. thanks	03:57
jrib	Bricker: safer to just reinstall. It depends how the program handles it really	03:57
ahtmly2k	is there a chatroom specified for Blender?	03:57
Bricker	jrib: thank you... also, is there anyway i can check what dependencies i actually installed with a program? ( i just copy and paste a lot from the tutorial, so it would be useful if i could make sure i have not already installed it)	03:57
myo	I think I know what happened; I was trying to get my firewire audio interface to work, and I must have run the usermod command wrong and unjoined all of the groups but disk	03:57
jrib	ahtmly2k: hidden away at #blender ;)	03:58
zelrikriando	hello	03:58
ahtmly2k	thnx	03:59
jrib	Bricker: if you are compiling programs, they usually don't install anything other than themselves. If you use APT, it will take care of dependencies automatically. You can use something like Synaptic if you want a GUI to see what you've installed through APT. Otherwise, ask a clearer question :)	03:59
arooni	can someone tell me how i can get a microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 to get its back/forward buttons working correctly (in firefox to go back/forward but also in nautilus to navigate folders etc)? right the back button on mouse = middle button, and forward button = right click.	03:59
Bricker	jrib: there is no general install log or something i can check in ubuntu?	04:00
strategy	Bricker, system -> admin -> system logs	04:00
jrib	Bricker: what do you expect it to log?	04:00
Bricker	thank you (no idea)	04:00
IdleOne	Bricker: like jrib said " You can use something like Synaptic if you want a GUI to see what you've installed through APT."	04:01
jrib	Bricker: most (all?) of the stuff you install should be through APT. That is well-managed and you can search for what you installed, etc. But if you are just running scripts to install things, APT doesn't know about them	04:02
IdleOne	Bricker: apps you compile yourself will not be shown in Synaptic. it does not track things we compile ourself	04:02
Bricker	i'm actually trying to steam movies through my xbox360... i found a program called fuppes, but it's not on synaptic.... also, i'm a newbie so i appreciate everyone's help and all your information.. it's quite useful :)	04:03
vantrigge2	jrib: do u have any idea how to see its status?	04:03
szx0	How can I completely remove then reinstall the Apache2.2 configuration of my Ubuntu 8.04/64Bit Server installation. I tried apt-get -f remove apache2 / apt-get --purge remove apache2 / .. then installing again and many different combinations with apache2 and apache2.2-common.. but nothing appears to make the /etc/apache2 directory or the init.d/apache2 file... ideas?	04:03
adiabatic	`man mount` points me to `man 7 undocumented`...which says there's no entry for 'undocumented' in section 7. How can I find out how to write an entry of my own in /etc/fstab?	04:04
magbuntu	strategy: what was that screen res. url again? i closed out my window and now i can't find it :)	04:04
acp_	!smalltalk	04:05
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about smalltalk	04:05
szx0	adiabatic, http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p10.htm	04:05
patrickmn	i am looking to install apache and mysql on desktop version of ubuntu for testing. I am a total noob to linux. where would be a good place to start?	04:05
Bsims	patrickmn: apt-get install apache	04:06
Meshezabeel	when I try to run a jnlp program from firefox, it does not open, any ideas why?	04:06
kreggz	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP	04:06
patrickmn	thank you	04:07
ubuntu	okay, so i just installed windows to a second drive, and of course my mbr was overdone and i'm now stuck on a livecd, how can i recover my grub and with it a dualboot menu or whatever?	04:09
IdleOne	!fixmbr	04:09
ubottu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	04:09
ubuntu	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 <- i've done this, and all it does is bring me to windows' "oh em gee something borked how do you want to boot?" menu	04:10
n-iCe	oidentd uses my user name as ident, is there a way to change it, without create a new user?	04:10
IdleOne	man oidentd	04:10
szx0	Trouble re-installing Ubuntu's packaged Apache2 configuration for my Ubuntu 7.10 (2.6.22-15-server) x86_64 ... Please read my short description here: http://ww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5766036#post5766036	04:10
Ice_Max	how can i get rid of Os Selections in GRUB? I have at least 3 different Linux Kernel versions that show up, and i only need one	04:11
tehboriz	does anyone use steam with wine stuff	04:11
yao_ziyuan	anyone installed google's official toolbar for firefox?	04:11
tehboriz	ew hell no	04:11
yao_ziyuan	today it suddenly says a new version is installed	04:11
szx0	tehboriz, I used to	04:11
yao_ziyuan	that scared me a lot	04:12
tehboriz	toolbars are for noobs	04:12
SebNaitsabes	agreed	04:12
tehboriz	szx0: what made you stop lol	04:12
bringatowel	binarycodes, i have heard xfs is good for large files, so i guess it depends what size the video files are, but probably that is fine	04:12
SebNaitsabes	toolsbars for browsers suck indeed	04:12
szx0	tehboriz, nothing really just stopped playing	04:12
yao_ziyuan	i hate software to silently download and install executable updates	04:12
szx0	tehboriz, it worked pretty decent for me	04:12
yao_ziyuan	i'm in china; this could compromise my information security	04:12
Stanton	can any one help me with ubuntu freezing up for no reason? some one suggested it was my WIFI USB adaptor.	04:12
tehboriz	im thinking about getting ubuntu on my other hard drive in my laptop so i could dual boot..	04:12
IdleOne	!lamp > szx0	04:12
ubottu	szx0, please see my private message	04:12
tehboriz	last time i tried steam with wine, i had 15 fps	04:12
Meshezabeel	tehboriz, not the toolbar for quantum transmission	04:13
SebNaitsabes	Shanton: could be, which one you got? did you get it using native Linux drivers or ndiswrapper	04:13
szx0	ubottu, thank you	04:13
ubottu	You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)	04:13
szx0	lol	04:13
Stanton	ndiswrapper	04:13
szx0	wow I thanked the bot ;-)	04:13
tehboriz	lol	04:13
bringatowel	Meshezabeel, have you installed Sun Java and the Sun Java browser plugin?	04:13
Stanton	no linux drivers for it	04:13
Meshezabeel	bringatowel, yes	04:14
phece	is it any faster if you don't dual boot and have all your files on your single ubuntu partition?	04:14
szx0	IdleOne, re-installing LAMP will re-install Apache2 for me huh.. lets give it a whirl	04:14
IdleOne	szx0: well it should	04:14
SebNaitsabes	Stanton: well I been told that USB adapters aren't good basicalely	04:14
bringatowel	Meshezabeel, are you running 32 or 64 bit?	04:14
n-iCe	IdleOne: I have read it	04:14
n-iCe	you know how?	04:15
SebNaitsabes	!wireless \| Stanton	04:15
ubottu	Stanton: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	04:15
IdleOne	n-iCe: i don't but figured that was a good place to start	04:15
n-iCe	IdleOne: nah	04:15
SebNaitsabes	Stanton: maybe you can get onto something usful from that, even though you have working	04:15
Meshezabeel	bringatowel, actually, how do I double check to see if I have the firefox java plugin, I have javaws on my computer, so I thought that is all I needed	04:15
myo	phew, ok guys, I fixed my sudo problem by login as root via the recovery boot option and adding my user back to the 'admin' group	04:15
Stanton	SebNaitsabes, it works great under wuindows before i had reinstall linux to fix a huge issue that could not be fixed and now i get freeze ups on a fresh install	04:15
Prose	hi all, apache weirdness: i can get my web page with local ip and I can ssh into my webserver with external IP but I can't get webpage through external IP :(	04:16
bringatowel	Meshezabeel, it's in Add/Remove, idk what javaws is though	04:16
SebNaitsabes	Stanton: what about on Windows?	04:16
myo	but now, since I'm only a member of the groups 'disk' and 'admin', might someone be so kind as to give me a list of all the groups a normal ubuntu user should be a member of?	04:16
Meshezabeel	also, how do I tell if I'm running 32bit or 64bit, it's been a while since I installed it, so don't remember which one I finally installed	04:16
Stanton	SebNaitsabes, i am on windows right now this usb adatport has worked better than my wired connection soo now i am moved into a place where i have to have wifi :(	04:17
hellohello	!help	04:17
ubottu	Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	04:17
IdleOne	Prose: you have to forward port 80 to your internal ip in router. don't ask me how, search for info on port forwarding for your router	04:17
shiloh7	myo, #compiz-fusion is helpful	04:17
mojo	hi! i have a question regarding email services on ubuntu server (hardy i386)... I am following http://www.linux.com/feature/146613 with the intention of using fetchmail to get mail from my google and yahoo accounts, as well as some yahoo, hotmail, and comcast accounts for my roomies. exim4 is installed already (for whatever reason). Q1: Will replacing exim4 with postfix be okay for whatever program needed a mailer (i think apache2)???	04:17
mojo	Also, the install asks what TYPE of mail server. Can I use Internet + Smarthost and LATER make my server a proper domain mail server on my dyndns account???? THANKS!!!	04:17
Meshezabeel	bringatowel, javaws is what is needed to launch the jnlp applications	04:17
eurozip	in /etc/snmpd.conf, I have com2sec readonly default public and in /etc/default/snmpd I have "SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid'" where I removed the localhost bind... however I still cannot get it to listen on the network address	04:17
SebNaitsabes	Stanton: yes Windows dirvers in Linux with ndiswrapper won't be perfect I guess	04:17
Prose	IdleOne: I did forward port 80 much like I forwared port 22	04:17
myo	shiloh7: I'm not sure. I'm just looking for someone to run the groups command, and paste the output here	04:17
bringatowel	Meshezabeel, well if the Java browser plugin will let you install it, then you have 32 bit, it wont then you have 64 bit ;)	04:18
Stanton	SebNaitsabes, all i know is it worked before.. but um... i do think i get freeze ups even with wireless turned off	04:18
eurozip	snmpd is running correctly, with the correct SNMPDOPTS	04:18
SebNaitsabes	Stanton: and hardwired should work better than wireless	04:18
n-iCe	oidentd uses my user name as ident, is there a way to change it, without create a new user?	04:18
eurozip	however it will not listen on my local network, any ideas?	04:18
bringatowel	Meshezabeel, hmm well iirc some websites that use .jnlp work for me just using sun java + browser plugin	04:18
^Phantom^	omg	04:18
^Phantom^	can i even run win98 on virtualbox?	04:19
IdleOne	^Phantom^: probably yeah	04:19
mojo	I am also interested in implementing a private jabber server for myself and friends/relatives available via dyndns domain. Jabber addy's look like email addy's... do they need to be in sync with local postfix mailbox names?	04:19
SebNaitsabes	yes you can run 98 on Virtualbox	04:19
Stanton	SebNaitsabes, i would go wired but i have no wired accesse here.... i was kinda forced into wieless...	04:19
SebNaitsabes	ok see my PM	04:20
^Phantom^	i have an install cd with a key :D	04:20
SebNaitsabes	Stanton	04:20
Meshezabeel	bringatowel, does this site work for you? You can make up any name you want: http://tinyurl.com/5db9xq	04:20
Stanton	SebNaitsabes, besides how could wireless freeze an entire computer?	04:20
IdleOne	Prose: I don't even get a ping response. make sure the settings are correct in your router is all I can suggest	04:20
SebNaitsabes	Stanton: buggy driver for Ndiswrapper?	04:20
Prose	IdleOne: okay thanks :)	04:21
Datz	hello, do any repositories still have airsnort? I tried adding a few that should, but the package manager couldn't find anything.	04:21
IdleOne	Prose: just got a response	04:21
Stanton	SebNaitsabes, if thats the case i might be able to fix it be back later.	04:21
SebNaitsabes	Stanton: in fact another one of these USB adapters not the one you have, can cause Blue Screen of Death in Windows	04:21
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bringatowel	Meshezabeel, yeah it looks like it :)	04:21
n-iCe	oidentd uses my user name as ident, is there a way to change it, without create a new user?	04:22
Meshezabeel	bringatowel, uname -a suggests that I am running 64-bit version	04:22
st3ph	how can i add different servers on pidgin?	04:22
SebNaitsabes	accounts	04:22
bringatowel	Meshezabeel, that might be more difficult then, i think you need to install the 32bit version of java, but i have not tried that before	04:23
SebNaitsabes	account manage	04:23
SebNaitsabes	at teh top	04:23
SebNaitsabes	acounts manage at the top	04:23
Meshezabeel	bringatowel, hmm, for me, I asks me if I want to open with Java Webstart, I say yes, it downloads it but then doesn't seem to do anything else	04:23
st3ph	ty	04:23
IdleOne	!java64	04:23
ubottu	You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava	04:23
Blaze_Boy	can any one give me help .... i want to make an account on deviantart and the IP range is banned ... i want a volunteer to make me an account please ... talk to me on private...that's the only way i can make an account and i need it .. pleeez..	04:24
Datz	Is anyone able to get a result for "airsnort" with synaptic?	04:25
danbh_intrepid	Datz: nope	04:25
Meshezabeel	okay, thanks bringatowel, at least I kind of have an idea what is causing the problem	04:25
bringatowel	Meshezabeel, yeah that might be because the browser plugin doesn't seem to be compatible with 64bit java, you might want to do a search for installing 32bit java in 64bit linux	04:25
Datz	ok, thank you	04:25
danbh_intrepid	Blaze_Boy: try emailing the admin@deviantart.com and sell your case there	04:25
Blaze_Boy	it's faster if someone make me an account	04:26
bringatowel	Meshezabeel, sure, you saw that link from ubottu right?	04:26
Meshezabeel	bringatowel, oh, no thanks :) and thanks IdleOne	04:26
danbh_intrepid	Datz: it looks like it was in dapper	04:26
mojo	bringatowel: ford prefect?	04:27
IdleOne	Meshezabeel: np	04:27
arooni-mobile	i was trying to get my 7 button mouse working but now i'm getting the error: 'your session only lasted less than 10 seconds" ... and errors in ~/.xsession-errors file shows: /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_CA; Start IM throug h/etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default	04:27
arooni-mobile	how do i fix?	04:27
Meshezabeel	mojo, don't speak his name here	04:27
mojo	Meshezabeel: he he	04:27
Datz	danbh_intrepid, is there a way to get the package and install it on to hardy?	04:27
remu	Hey guys, I'm trying to get the following to work, any ideas what I should do? The problem I am having is that the audio seems to stutter/loop, the card is: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)	04:27
Meshezabeel	:)	04:27
bringatowel	mojo, 4 transgalactic gargle blasters, on helium ice plz ;)	04:27
danbh_intrepid	Datz: it looks like it was removed from hardy	04:28
d0lphin	who can give me a command line mail tool?	04:28
Flannel	d0lphin: Define tool	04:28
Datz	danbh_intrepid, ah so they want you to do it the hard way.	04:28
mojo	bringatowel: maybe you can fire up that improbability drive and help me get my server running smooth for me?	04:28
Blaze_Boy	can any one give me help .... i want to make an account on deviantart and the IP range is banned ... i want a volunteer to make me an account please ... talk to me on private...that's the only way i can make an account and i need it .. pleeez..	04:28
Meshezabeel	so long and thanks for all the fish	04:28
IdleOne	d0lphin: Synaptic can or apt-cache search	04:29
* mojo sticks his head in a bucket of water		04:29
Flannel	Blaze_Boy: please don't ask about that here. Try somewhere else, or #ubuntu-offtopic	04:29
microchip420	heys guys, how do i add an app to the panel when it doesnt appear in the menu? epiphany web browser to be specific	04:29
danbh_intrepid	Datz: I bet you could just go to the debian archives, and install it from there. According to the info I see, they made no changes from the debian version to the ubuntu version	04:29
arquebus	dolphin-pine, but I dont know if its currently in the repo	04:29
bringatowel	mojo, that does sound ... improbable ... (feel free to ask though and ill try)	04:29
d0lphin	thanks a lot	04:30
Datz	danbh_intrepid, thanks for the info, I see that aircrack is in the repo so I will try that. ;)	04:30
danbh_intrepid	Datz: hehe, Im installing from the gutsy repo as we speak	04:30
mojo	bringatowel: well i asked earlier, really, it is my inexperience running mail servers. exim4 is on the box due to some program needing a mailer (apache2 i think? i forget). but i want to replace with postfix, use fetchmail to grab my gmail stuff (and others), and LATER use it as my own mail server on my dyndns domain	04:30
Flannel	arquebus: pine is non-free, mutt is the free clone.	04:30
Datz	danbh_intrepid, sweet, I will try it too then	04:30
Datz	danbh_intrepid, do I add a URl to the sources.list or somthing?	04:31
radioaktivstorm	is there a reason why java would register a key held down with keyrelease and keypress repeatedly under ubuntu?	04:31
danbh_intrepid	Datz: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/airsnort/	04:31
mojo	bringatowel: thing is 1) will replacing exim4 with postfix still let whatever it was mail out? (drop in repl?), also, installing Postfix asks what TYPE of server. Should I choose Internet + Smarthost, so i can have gmail fwd'd to the gmail server to go out, and comcast to the comcast server, while still having the ability to make my own internet mail services off my dydnds domain in the near future?	04:32
evan__	大家好	04:32
bazhang	!cn \| evan__	04:32
ubottu	evan__: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk	04:32
microchip420	heys guys, how do i add an app to the panel when it doesnt appear in the menu? epiphany web browser to be specific.....	04:32
Datz	danbh_intrepid, thanks ;)	04:33
danbh_intrepid	Datz: it doesnt seem to work :(	04:33
Datz	:(	04:33
Datz	ok	04:33
bringatowel	mojo, yikes, i have no clue, never had to set up a mail server actually. maybe it would be helpful to figure out what exactly is using the current server? it seems like you will have to configure the new server anyway, but im not sure =P	04:33
mojo	microchip420: if you edit the menus, can you activate the menu item? it may be there but inactive. activate it then drag/drop to the panel	04:33
mojo	bringatowel: i just can't remember, and forgot to make notes (like a real braniac)... i think it just wants to use cmdline "mail" to send out notifications. i am _pretty sure_ it was apache2 that wanted that	04:34
patrickmn	how do i save an edited apache conf file?	04:35
microchip420	mojo: i will check	04:35
danbh_intrepid	patrickmn: whats the problem?	04:35
mojo	patrickmn: depends on what editor you used? ^w^q in nano/pico :wq in vi methinks	04:36
mojo	sry, ^o^x in nano	04:36
patrickmn	I just setup apache to toy around with and I cannot save and edited conf file. I am using gedit	04:36
danbh_intrepid	patrickmn: try gksu gedit next time	04:36
tuxxy__	hey anyone have any ideas how to get system sounds working on hardy?	04:36
bringatowel	mojo, is there some way you can test it?	04:37
mojo	patrickmn: well you may be editing it as the USER without WRITE permissions to the config file. you should use alt-f2 to type in a command to run and use gksudo gedit to run gedit with super-user permissions	04:37
ballzee	i typed chown -fRv ballzee:ballzee /media/OneTouch4/* and root still owns everything what am i doing wrong ?	04:38
mojo	bringatowel: well i am DOING the install, my main question is about the TYPE of server to install... but i guess it's no harm if i have to backtrack later... this is just me tinkering right now.	04:38
Crayboff	umm i need some help with a psych project, if anyone wishes to help me. is it possible to do private chat?	04:38
danbh_intrepid	ballzee: what is that folder mounted to? a formatted partition? what format?	04:39
bringatowel	mojo, hehe well, good luck, just remember not to panic :D	04:39
strategy	Crayboff, psych project ?	04:39
strategy	wuzzat mean	04:39
mojo	well what the heck, i'll just run with "internet + smarthost" and see what happens. if something else breaks because of exim4 removal then i'll deal with that	04:39
patrickmn	thank you, that resolved my issue. is this a normal way to go abouts playing around with web development on ubuntu?	04:39
Crayboff	psychology project	04:39
strategy	ah	04:39
patrickmn	or am i doing it bass ackwards?	04:39
Beryllium	I want to configure SSH to listen on multiple ports; on the standard SSH port, I want it to allow all users to log in, but on a second port I want to restrict it to only allowing a single user to use that port. Any ideas on how to accomplish this?	04:40
Crayboff	i'm supposed to strike up an informal conversation with someone and see what I learn about myself	04:40
Flannel	patrickmn: What are you trying to do with your edits?	04:40
mojo	patrickmn: the security model of running as a user w/o priv's and using sudo (cmdline) or gksudo (gui) to run AS superuser is the preferred ubuntu way	04:40
Agent_bob	anyone know how to make wvdial/pppd not redial when a connection is lost ?	04:40
greenie	anybody got Colinux working with ubuntu with gui?	04:40
danbh_intrepid	patrickmn: I have a separate /home to save my configurations, so I like to store the apache files on /home, and sym link to them from wherever apache wants them	04:40
tuxxy__	does anyone have any idea why system sounds play when i manually run them but otherwise dont play on events as they should	04:41
patrickmn	well, the first thing I was thinking about was to change the apache configuration to point to /home/USERID/var/www	04:41
Flannel	patrickmn: Nah, that's the wrong way to do it. We have userdir for that.	04:42
eurozip	can anyone help with snmpd, I cannot get it to listen on anything but 127.0.0.1	04:42
patrickmn	danbh_intrepid: good idea, thanks	04:42
eurozip	it's listening on 0.0.0.0, however it will not allow access from anywhere but localhost	04:43
eurozip	udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:161 0.0.0.0:* -	04:43
Ikarius	eurozip- my guess is that the communities aren't set up right	04:43
joeb3_	eurozip, don't know the exact command, but your snmpd.conf has to allow connections from other addresses.	04:43
eurozip	mine too, but I've been changing them around for hours	04:44
eurozip	no resolve	04:44
eurozip	com2sec mynetwork 63.99.9.0/24 public	04:44
eurozip	group MyROGroup v1 mynetwork	04:44
eurozip	access MyROGroup "" any noauth exact all none none	04:44
eurozip	those are the three lines that matter	04:44
Meshezabeel	join #icedtea	04:44
eurozip	I don't understand what's going on	04:44
charles3	okay I bought a PC and it came with foresight linux, and it sucks i somehow deleted the administrator user or w/e the big problem with this comp is there is no CD ROM so should I switch to ubuntu?	04:45
eurozip	Sep 10 22:38:33 marlin snmpd[4099]: netsnmp_assert !"registration != duplicate" failed agent_registry.c:535 netsnmp_subtree_load()	04:45
eurozip	that's the only thing in syslog	04:45
charles3	i only want this comp for a postgresql database to be held on the comps on my local network	04:45
* Crayboff confused		04:45
* Crayboff has never used IRC before, so please forgive him while he tries out commands		04:45
MYHOME	what	04:46
RaW[b33f]	Everything works - but I cant see my Windows machine in a Samba browse. SSH/SFTP works great between them, RDP works fine, but the (k)ubuntu ox can (by samba) see the Win box ... any help?	04:46
Ikarius	eurozip maybe you're trying to configure the same community twice?	04:46
MYHOME	i am mr.myhome	04:46
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MYHOME	plz don't hack my laptop plz	04:46
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charles3	how do i install ubuntu to a flash drive?	04:46
bazhang	!usb	04:47
ubottu	For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent	04:47
eurozip	I only have 2 communities ikarius	04:47
eurozip	hmm	04:47
MYHOME	i think i am the smartest one in here	04:47
eurozip	well, there's	04:47
eurozip	com2sec local localhost public	04:47
eurozip	com2sec mynetwork 63.99.9.0/24 public	04:47
bazhang	MYHOME, this is not a chat channel.	04:47
RaW[b33f]	MYHOME then help me	04:47
eurozip	would that be the issue? both being public	04:47
Ikarius	donno euro... I havent fiddled with snmp on ubuntu yet, only on CentOS	04:47
bazhang	MYHOME, you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic	04:47
MYHOME	where is the chat channel?	04:47
eurozip	I think you might have solved it, let me restart	04:47
Ikarius	euro- simply restart the snmp service	04:48
Ikarius	no need to reboot	04:48
charles3	thx bazhang	04:48
bazhang	charles3, also pendrivelinux.com	04:48
Flannel	MYHOME: #ubuntu-offtopic	04:49
* Ikarius ignores the troll		04:49
eurozip	still doing the same thing ikarius	04:49
shiloh7	is it possible to have KDE and Gnome?	04:49
bazhang	shiloh7, yes	04:50
joeb3_	eurozip, do you have snmpconf?	04:50
shiloh7	bazhang, i am not familiar with KDE, so I am thinking best way to learn is to have both enviornments	04:50
charles3	wow all this comp talk doesnt make much sense to me	04:50
charles3	is all I do is dl ubuntu and put the file on the flash drive?	04:51
charles3	then try to boot from that?!?	04:51
bazhang	shiloh7, kubuntu-desktop is what you need to install to get that	04:51
RaW[b33f]	You have to make it bootable	04:51
bazhang	charles3, no; best to read the links	04:51
ushimitsudoki1	shiloh7: you can install both and then select which "session" you want to use at the login screen. applications based on either KDE or GNOME can run under either one. That is, you can run a "KDE app" on a "GNOME desktop"	04:51
* RaW[b33f] points @ bazhang		04:51
eurozip	yes joe	04:52
charles3	im reading link sand they have unt the partition (mount /dev/sda1 /mnt) and copy the following files from the Ubuntu archives to the stick:	04:52
charles3	*	04:52
charles3	vmlinuz (kernel binary)	04:52
charles3	*	04:52
charles3	initrd.gz (initial ramdisk image)	04:52
FloodBot1	charles3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	04:52
charles3	*	04:52
eurozip	I tried that also, still nothing	04:52
shiloh7	cool, ty	04:52
Ikarius	euro- didn't have snmpd installed on my ubuntu	04:52
Ikarius	I was gonna fiddle with it eventually anyhoo, lemme install it quick	04:52
eurozip	ok, ty ikarius	04:52
magbuntu	woo, got it :)	04:52
arooni-mobile	i was trying to get my 7 button mouse working (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28374) but now i'm getting the error: 'your session only lasted less than 10 seconds" ... and errors in ~/.xsession-errors file shows: /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_CA; Start IM throug h/etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default	04:52
ravendark	charles3: no there is more to it than that, i suggest a nice little utility called unetbootin to help, find it at http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/	04:53
charles3	okay im sorry for noob question, but I can dl that on my windows pc put in a usb and install ubunto ont that usb flash drie, then put flash drive into other comp and install ubuntu from it?	04:54
charles3	right? :x	04:54
Cacodemon	Why can't Ubuntu detect my 56K modem, yet Windows makes it SO easy to connect to the internet?!?	04:54
RaW[b33f]	charles3 no	04:55
charles3	then what do I have to do? :/	04:55
bazhang	charles3, read the links fully	04:55
charles3	lol the links make 0 sense	04:56
RaW[b33f]	charles3 - it is not easy - I will tell you that	04:56
Kai_wp	For some reason Totem Video Player will no longer play music and plays video without sound, VERY laggy. VLC plays video but has no sounds. I just played a video with sound fine in both players 10 minutes ago, why would it stop working? I didn't change anything related to the programs, video or audio.	04:56
Ikarius	eurozip: http://pastebin.com/d6dca223e	04:56
wickedpuppy	Kai_wp, are you on youtube ?	04:56
Ikarius	try those, see if that works for you	04:56
charles3	raw is there someway I can dl ubuntu on a computer and install it that way?	04:56
danbh_intrepid	!winmodem \| Cacodemon: looks like they are working on it	04:57
ubottu	Cacodemon: looks like they are working on it: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto	04:57
deamonknight	good day. how do i upgrade my kernel to 686 version? that has smp? thank you	04:57
eurozip	Ikarius, I figured it out	04:57
Cacodemon	Ubuntu is installed onto my C drive, yet I can't browse it.	04:57
SebNaitsabes	Kai_wp: yes try Youtube if no sound there either try this: open terminal and sudo kilall pulseaudio then try something that makes sound	04:57
Cacodemon	Only my D and E drive I can use.	04:57
eurozip	turns out I am just an idiot... too many damn servers... was all confused on which one I was on	04:57
Ikarius	....	04:57
eurozip	thanks for your help	04:57
danbh_intrepid	deamonknight: if you are running the latest ubuntu, you have it already	04:57
Ikarius	that will do it	04:57
gaintsura	hey all, I'm having a problem getting my firewall to allow svn connections, and I don't use it often enough to take and unblock it. Could someone send me the latest svn of linux uvc?	04:58
RaW[b33f]	charles3, yes - download Ubuntu, and put it in your CD drive. It will easily partiion your drive and allow you to dual boot	04:58
Ikarius	danbh- any chance you could help me build an intrepid package for gutsy?	04:58
deamonknight	but when i do uname -a it says 386-generic	04:58
ravendark	charles3: that utility will indeed allow just that, stick usb stick into windows box, run app, and it will make the usb stick bootable, take to other machine, set it to boot from usb and install from stick	04:58
Flannel	deamonknight: -generic is for 686, and includes SMP support	04:58
Cacodemon	Why can't Ubuntu do anything with my C drive where it's installed on?	04:58
Ikarius	danbh- I'd like to update my dhcpd to 3.1.1, which is in intrepid. I downloaded the source, patch & .dsc file, but it's giving me fits trying to build a .deb out of it	04:59
danbh_intrepid	Ikarius: no clue about that, sorry	05:00
Ikarius	gah, hokay. thanks anyhow	05:00
arooni-mobile	ok any suggestions on getting all 7 buttons of my 7 button mouse working ... in ubuntu hardy? i dont want to blow it up again	05:00
Ikarius	er, wow, not gutsy. hardy.	05:00
danbh_intrepid	arooni-mobile: xmodmap didnt work?	05:01
Ikarius	c'est la vie	05:01
macvr	hi all... i'm a noob , could anyone suggest a good backup and restore program, which will take care of everything incase of a crash, has a GUI. also i came across this program REMASTERSYS, from which u can create a Custom LiveCD of the present installation as it is, BUT it doesnt work in Hardy, could any1 suggest a similar program?	05:01
Cacodemon	I go to Computer and only the D and E drives are listed among with two hidden ones.	05:01
Flannel	!backup \| macvr	05:01
ubottu	macvr: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning	05:01
Ikarius	macvr- check acronis trueimage	05:01
deamonknight	flannel: thanx	05:01
arooni-mobile	danbh_intrepid, xmodmap?	05:01
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arooni-mobile	danbh_intrepid, right now xorg has it listed as a 5 button mouse too	05:02
Styles	Hi	05:02
Cacodemon	Thanks for the help. D:<	05:02
SebNaitsabes	Styles: yes Hi	05:02
acp_	!sqeak	05:02
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about sqeak	05:02
Styles	I am trying to install Ubuntu with 64bit (Intel Processors). I boot up and my screen is just boxes. (Only with ubuntu)	05:02
De[X]tone	afternoon guys...	05:03
Ikarius	hrm. I thought most monitors were rectangular....	05:03
Styles	Its like green and draker and flickers	05:03
deamonknight	Flannel: this is what i get when i type uname -a "Linux deamonknight-laptop 2.6.24-19-386 #1 Wed Aug 20 21:59:50 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux	05:03
deamonknight	" is this the newest one??	05:03
mojo	how do i change my host name?	05:03
danbh_intrepid	mmm, arooni-mobile: that guide was written years ago, and they have been making changes to xorg. Where does xorg list how many buttons your mouse has?	05:03
Styles	Any ideas?	05:03
bullgard4	Why does there not exist a 'man sgrep'?	05:03
arooni-mobile	danbh_intrepid, /etc/X11/xorg.conf	05:03
mojo	i am set to zen.no-ip.net but that is not valid; i want to switch to zen.dynalias.net	05:03
Cacodemon	Why doesn't Ubuntu show the drive it's installed on? Is it because it shares the drive with Windows Vista?	05:04
SebNaitsabes	show the drive where?	05:04
ushimitsudoki1	bullgard4: because you haven't installed sgrep?	05:04
mojo	!hostname	05:04
ubottu	Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab	05:04
sely	the drive it's installed on is /	05:04
macvr	acronis trueimage, / !backup > are to crate backups? ......... is there anything that would create a Live CD of the present install?	05:04
Flannel	deamonknight: Did you install the -386 version yourself?	05:04
Cacodemon	Ubuntu and Vista is on C:/ and I have a D:/ drive.	05:05
bullgard4	ushimitsudoki1: Ah! -- This is very likely the reason. Thank you very much.	05:05
arooni	danbh_intrepid, see here: http://pastie.org/270202	05:05
acp_	!squeak	05:05
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about squeak	05:05
danbh_intrepid	arooni-mobile: well, I think the guide was telling you to change the driver, which is why it failed later on. I would undo everything you did, and just do the xmodmap	05:05
sely	there is no C: and D: in linux	05:05
SebNaitsabes	Cacodemon: you cannot access or even see your Ubuntu partition inside Vista, unless you have a driver for that, which is not a very good idea	05:05
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deamonknight	Flannel: no, its what got installed when i installed hardy heron	05:05
Ikarius	!dpkg-buildpackage	05:06
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	05:06
macvr	flannel/ ikarius>>>acronis trueimage, / !backup > are to create backups? ......... is there anything that would create a Live CD of the present install?	05:06
arooni	danbh_intrepid, instructions to use xmodmap?	05:06
Cacodemon	I can't see the C drive in Ubuntu.	05:06
Cpudan80	!dpkg buildpackage	05:06
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	05:06
Cpudan80	:-(	05:06
SebNaitsabes	Cacodemon: it won't be called C	05:06
Cpudan80	hrm...	05:06
Flannel	deamonknight: That's odd. Ok, install linux-generic, then reboot and select it, and then you can remove the -386 images after verifying the -generic one works for a while.	05:06
earthbound01	Somebody please help me, I have ubuntu installed, but it thinks my 80 gb hd is only 40gb.	05:06
Ikarius	acronis trueimage can create an image that can restore a system to bootable state	05:06
deamonknight	Flannel: how do i do that??	05:07
Ikarius	I haven't fiddled with the backup packages the bot listed	05:07
arooni	how do i get the microsoft natural wireless laser mouse 6000 (mouthful) working fully on ubuntu hardy?	05:07
SebNaitsabes	Cacodemon: open computer go to file system and media folder. you should be able to access Vista in it	05:07
Cacodemon	Then what will it be called?	05:07
Cacodemon	Oh, ok.	05:07
Flannel	deamonknight: install "linux-generic"	05:07
macvr	ok,so that takes care of the backup.... i want to also create A live CD of my install	05:07
macvr	is it possible?	05:08
Ikarius	macvr- don't think you'll find anything that does that	05:08
Ikarius	that's a pretty complex thing to do	05:08
macvr	REMASTERSYS.... has an option to create	05:08
Ikarius	and there's generally not enough space on an optical disk anyhow	05:08
gaintsura	could someone get the svn for linux uvc for me and send it my way? I cannot get svn to run	05:09
SebNaitsabes	Cacodemon: also it should be listed in Computer	05:09
ahtmly2k	hey is it possible to download americas army from the terminal?	05:09
danbh_intrepid	arooni-mobile: create a file: ~/.Xmodmap add this line: pointer = 1 8 3 4 5 7 6 2 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 swap the numbers as you see fit (each number corresponds to a button). Notice how I have buttons 8 and 2 switched. Thats so my thumb button acts as a middle click	05:09
macvr	BUt there is doesnt work with hardy!!!	05:09
SebNaitsabes	!wget \| ahtmly2k	05:09
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about wget	05:09
CostaRicanQuaker	anyone can help me? i'm trying to install a secondary hard drive on my computer....i have ubuntu installed on this one and i want to add the other as a slave drive but i don't know how, they're both ide not SATA	05:09
SebNaitsabes	ahtmly2k: it's either in the repo. or you can download with wget as long as you know where to download from	05:10
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arooni	imwheel -c yields: expected 3 args, got 1, in config. .... how do i fix?	05:10
danbh_intrepid	arooni: see my msg above	05:10
arooni	danbh_intrepid, ah ok	05:10
macvr	!backup	05:10
ubottu	There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning	05:10
macvr	!sbackup	05:10
ubottu	sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe	05:10
macvr	!cloning	05:10
ubottu	To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate	05:10
CostaRicanQuaker	i tried connecting them already but i think i got the wrong powerchord for the second harddrive as it did some weird noise and was undetected then when i used the powerchord that forks from the one the original harddrive it took a long long time to boot up then for grub to boot and then after the spalsh screen it sent me to this propmpt that said busybox something debian shell	05:10
Styles	So Ubuntu is messed up for me I had this is freakin out	05:11
Styles	The screen is not right its like blocky colors	05:11
Styles	Any ideas? I trid 64 bit and 32 bit	05:11
Styles	It only happens once I boot.	05:11
ushimitsudoki	Styles: sometimes on my laptop the screen is distorted when i boot up. If I restart X it fixes itself. Did you try that?	05:12
CostaRicanQuaker	help?	05:13
Styles	ushimitsudoki: what do you mean restart X?	05:13
Styles	ushimitsudoki: I can't even see the screen to get to the terminal or to anything.	05:13
earthbound01	Somebody please help me, I have ubuntu installed, but it thinks my 80 gb hd is only 40gb. I'm booting off of a livecd right now.	05:13
tony_	how do i find the md5 of a dvd?	05:13
SebNaitsabes	Google for it	05:13
Ikarius	md5sum /dev/cdrom	05:14
SebNaitsabes	tony_: md5sum nameofile.iso in Google	05:14
ushimitsudoki	Styles: You should be able to restart X with CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE. However, this might not help in your case. I thought you were seeing something, but goofy. Did you try to get a virtual terminal (CTRL-ALT-F1)?	05:14
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Flannel	!md5 \| tony_	05:14
ubottu	tony_: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows	05:14
SebNaitsabes	lkarius: sure, but he still needs to have the code to compare to	05:14
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tony_	Flannel: thanks	05:14
Ikarius	SebNaitsabes: I answered the question he asked... useful answers cost .50 cents ;)	05:15
SebNaitsabes	lkarius: sure or for free from ubottu :d	05:15
Ikarius	heheh	05:15
tony_	Flannel: that's for an iso, i need to make sure the dvd is the same	05:16
CostaRicanQuaker	can someone here help me add a secondary hard drive?	05:16
Flannel	tony_: Its the same way, just for the dvd instead of the iso	05:16
Cpudan80	tony_: MD5s don't matter	05:16
SebNaitsabes	CostaRicanQuaker: try #hardware	05:16
Cpudan80	tony_: It can be gotten for any file -- even a simple txt file	05:16
FactTech	Question: Can anyone help me get DHCP server up and running?	05:17
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* Debolaz finally caves in and installs winamp in wine.		05:18
`Matir	I have two SATA drives that both give me messages like http://paste.ubuntu.com/45619/ in dmesg. No problems with the drives reported by SMART and no other notable errors, seem to work fine. Any idea what would cause that?	05:18
ahtmly2k	i'd like to ask a question; in the synaptic, when i'm about to remove a package, there are two options; 1.mark for removal 2.mark for complete removal... what's the difference?	05:19
`Matir	the 2nd option removes configuration files, the 1st leaves them	05:19
SebNaitsabes	Dabolaz: winamp in Wine hummmm there are good native Linux players these days	05:20
ahtmly2k	so if i choose the 1st, there'll be sum junk left... right?	05:20
Flannel	ahtmly2k: Those are global configuration files. The userconfigs are never touched.	05:20
Flannel	ahtmly2k: Yes	05:20
ahtmly2k	ok thnx	05:20
`Matir	ahtmly2k, yes, files in /etc usually... useful if you're going to install from source but want to keep your config or anything like that	05:20
Kai_wp	wickedpuppy & SebNaitsabes : Sorry for the very long wait for an answer, but I'd like to point out that I do have sound, just not in the media players. >.<	05:20
SebNaitsabes	Kai_wp: ok try this: sudo killall pulseaudio then try your music again	05:21
ripper	hi everyone	05:21
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: Winamp in Wine hummmmmmmmm Linux has good native players these days	05:22
jason	is there a simple way to remove ATI drivers and start from scratch? Everything was working with the "supported" drivers... then I had the bright idea of installing the ones from ATI. Now everything is all dork'd and I can't get either to work.	05:23
SebNaitsabes	!ATI	05:23
ubottu	For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	05:23
ripper	i know this is going to sound dumb since i have done this b4 with ez but i cant add a gdm to the login window manager. i hit add in the local tab and navigate to the gdm file but i doest see anything in them	05:23
arooni_____	i'm viewing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto ... i found out that with imwheel -c that my side buttons are 6 (should be back in firefox) and 7 (should be forward in firefox)... i already have None,Left,Alt_L\|Left; None,Right,Alt_L\|Right; in .imhweelrc... what do i do now?	05:23
Debolaz	SebNaitsabes: I looked in the add/remove software dialogue, but didn't find many alternatives. The totem player is about as uncomfortable to use as it gets, and audacious seems to have huge performance issues.	05:23
Styles	I'll try the virtual terminal now, but how will that help?	05:24
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Debolaz	SebNaitsabes: Audacious had extremely low sound volume for some reason too, despite every knob on the application and system being turned to maximum.	05:24
SebNaitsabes	Debolax: Banshee has an old version in Hardy, but there is a repo that can be added so you get the version that will be in next Ubuntu (unless it's slightly upgraded by then)	05:24
ripper	i have download alot of different one from www.gnome-look.org but i cant get any of them to add	05:24
ripper	any help	05:24
Styles	It seems to me that it hates the video card, the box its being installed on is a x8 AGP nvidia 5500 I think (model # could be off)	05:24
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: Banshee is meant to be a lot better, I haven't added that repo myself yet though	05:25
yates	i've tried to install the synaptic touchpad driver (apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics - Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server)	05:25
yates	but it appears from the /var/log/messages log that the psmouse driver is still installed	05:26
yates	yes, i've rebooted	05:26
firewall_03	I have a ? when someone gets a chance	05:26
Kr0ntab	firewall_03, just ask	05:26
yates	any ideas why the synaptic driver isn't being used?	05:27
ripper	i know this is going to sound dumb since i have done this b4 with ez but i cant add a gdm to the login window manager. i hit add in the local tab and navigate to the gdm file but i doest see anything in them	05:27
firewall_03	I amd trying to get a wireless card to work with ubuntu 7.04	05:27
SebNaitsabes	!wireless	05:28
ubottu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	05:28
firewall_03	I have been there but its not helping me	05:28
mambolefik	Hello !!!	05:28
SebNaitsabes	which device?	05:28
Kr0ntab	firewall_03, do you know what wireless card you have?	05:28
sjea	hi all	05:28
firewall_03	dlink dwl-g650	05:28
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mambolefik	Lost my DVD (unable to mount) doesn't exists anymore.	05:29
SebNaitsabes	!mount	05:29
ubottu	For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted or !QTParted - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap	05:29
SebNaitsabes	oh	05:29
SebNaitsabes	mambolefk: did you unmount it propelry?	05:29
mambolefik	Yes	05:29
mambolefik	I have it sometimes	05:29
mambolefik	My DVD was lost after my last update....	05:31
Ikarius	good deal. I simply bypassed compiling the intrepid dhcp packages, downloaded the binaries and installed on heron... and it looks like it worked	05:31
firewall_03	I couldn't find the proper driver to use to get the card installed	05:31
Debolaz	SebNaitsabes: It's not entirely clear on the page, do I install the package banshee or banshee-1?	05:31
Debolaz	After having added the repository.	05:31
ripper	i know this is going to sound dumb since i have done this b4 with ez but i cant add a gdm to the login window manager. i hit add in the local tab and navigate to the gdm file but i doest see anything in them	05:31
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: give me the link	05:31
Debolaz	SebNaitsabes: http://banshee-project.org/download/	05:31
mambolefik	I'm using a laptop : Acer 7720z [ DVD LOST ]	05:32
arooni_____	i'm viewing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto ... i found out that with imwheel -c that my side buttons are 6 (should be back in firefox) and 7 (should be forward in firefox)... i already have None,Left,Alt_L\|Left; None,Right,Alt_L\|Right; in .imhweelrc... what do i do now?	05:32
cchapman	anyone setup hylafax before?	05:32
firewall_03	any ideas about that card?	05:33
Kr0ntab	firewall_03, are you on the computer with the wireless card now? If so... it would be helpful to get some output pasted in pastebin for us to see...	05:33
Kr0ntab	!paste	05:33
ubottu	pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)	05:33
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: you don't want that, you want this: https://edge.launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive	05:33
firewall_03	Kr0ntab I have the computer next to me I am using my other laptop	05:33
Datz	Is there anyway to update the kernel version to 2.6.25?	05:34
mambolefik	Anyone using ACER 7720Z ?	05:34
keithclark	Is there a Wubi for Linux? I love how it works in XP	05:34
ahtmly2k	y cant i make pydance to fullscreen?	05:34
Debolaz	SebNaitsabes: Ie, banshee-1?	05:34
Ikarius	here's a question.... is there a timeline for changing to using upstart for actually managing services?	05:35
Ikarius	instead of the scripts in etc/init.d	05:35
venger	firewall_03, madwifi https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink	05:35
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: yes just follow the instructions on this page: https://edge.launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive	05:36
arooni________a	i followed; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto to the letter; but i still cant get firefox back/forward buttons to work :(((	05:36
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arooni	i followed; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto to the letter; but i still cant get firefox back/forward buttons to work :(((	05:36
mambolefik	[ DVD LOST ] : How to solve : APIC error on CPU0: 00(40) - Triying to use noapic nolapic but doesn't work for me	05:36
arooni	oops sorry for respost	05:36
venger	firewall_03, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi	05:37
Kai_wp	SebNaitsabes: Thanks! It works now. :D	05:38
SebNaitsabes	Kai_wp: run that command next time you have problems to	05:38
* Debolaz hopes banshee is more intelligent than iTunes when it comes to figuring out song names.		05:38
SebNaitsabes	Kai_wp: also issues like that are meant to be fixed in next Ubunt out at end of October, but you can get a bit earlly if you want, altough I won't be upgrading untill the Beta	05:39
earthbound01	Somebody please help me, I have ubuntu installed, but it's reading my 80 gb hdd as only 40 gb.	05:39
mambolefik	[ DVD LOST ] : My DVD was lost ( /dev/scd0 vanished ) after my last update of HARDY . Any Idea ?	05:39
Debolaz	Heh, there's literally a 5 second delay on the volume control in banshee.	05:40
SebNaitsabes	that's good or bad?	05:40
whyameye	I need to mount a lvm on top of a raid 1 array on a live cd. Any ideas on how to do this?	05:41
bobertdos	earthbound01: What is the output of: sudo fdisk -l (terminal)	05:42
bobertdos	?	05:42
hellohello	/echo -a $version	05:43
hellohello	$version	05:43
hellohello	!help	05:43
ubottu	Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	05:43
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Flannel	hellohello: Can we help you?	05:44
hellohello	um this is my first time using xchat	05:44
hellohello	I'm not really sure how things work...	05:44
firewall_03	venger are you sure madwifi is whay I am supposed to use	05:44
hellohello	sorry I'm a newbie here	05:45
compgrokker	hellohello: what are you trying to do? if you have a question, just type it	05:45
Bandman614	you're doing a good job typing so far	05:45
compgrokker	hellohello: or just sit back and read :)	05:45
hellohello	oh ok :)	05:45
bobertdos	hellohello: No need to be so apologetic. Just stay polite and we promise we will be as helpful as possible.	05:45
Debolaz	SebNaitsabes: It's never a good thing, but it's not a problem I can't cope with.	05:46
venger	firewall_03, the doc states madwifi for dlink dwl-g650...	05:46
Ikarius	blah. microshaft bungholes. I knew XP didnt support dhcp option 118, but they dont even support it in vista. it works in apple OSX	05:46
firewall_03	venger what was that link again?	05:46
earthbound01	bobert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45627/	05:46
Realcoolguy	alright, i'm having trouble fitting my tennis shoe inside my computer	05:46
venger	firewall_03, in terminal do: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules madwifi-tools	05:47
Debolaz	SebNaitsabes: I'll be trying them both for a while, thanks for the tip.	05:47
chull	ok our son installed a new hardy on my husband's computer. the screen resolution is stuck at 60 hz.. and flickers.. how can we change that?	05:47
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: Amarok is one loads of peopel like	05:47
Realcoolguy	(the guy who sold me the laptop said it'd be great for storage!) alright, i'll make sure to answer a question for wasting lines like that ;)	05:47
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: might have spelt that wrong	05:47
Realcoolguy	chull: is the screen a flatscreen?	05:47
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: ,but all music players I have tried sucked in some form or theo ther	05:48
chull	Realcoolguy, it's a gateway-VX900 CRT	05:48
Debolaz	Banshee uses about twice as much CPU as winamp does, but since winamp barely touches the CPU that's still not a whole lot.	05:48
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: I just use Rythombox	05:48
bobertdos	earthbound01: So, this IS a Linux-only system, correct?	05:48
firewall_03	venger couldn't find package	05:48
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: Winamp is crappy freeware from AOL	05:49
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: and Windows only	05:49
venger	firewall_03, because you don't have network?	05:49
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: yes runs in Wine, but you should use native Linux apps when you can	05:49
firewall_03	venger yes.	05:49
earthbound01	bobertdos: linux only. It used to have XP on it some months ago.	05:49
earthbound01	It went from being a windows only system to a linux only system.	05:49
Realcoolguy	chull: are you able to change anything on the screen resolution/refresh rate at all?	05:50
chull	earthbound01, i'm sure you improved it	05:50
Kr0nik	hey can anyone help me with wicd/wireless	05:50
chull	Realcoolguy, resolution yes.. it just doesn't change hz	05:50
venger	firewall_03, enable cdrom in Administration->Software sources and load the heron CD?	05:50
Debolaz	SebNaitsabes: We'll see if Banshee will be able to replace winamp for me. Finding something that just works without some strange quirk has proven difficult for Linux applications in general.	05:50
bobertdos	earthbound01: I ask because the only reason I can think of for an eighty-gig drive being reported as forty would be if there were a partition Linux isn't detecting.	05:50
venger	firewall_03, i'm assuming it is bunndled	05:50
venger	s/bunndled/bundled	05:51
Ubuntu392944	Someone help	05:51
chull	Debolaz, that's true .. but ubuntu is better than most for that	05:51
firewall_03	venger ok that means nothing to me	05:51
Ikarius	Debolas: you might check out songbird	05:51
Ubuntu392944	I find Ubuntu to be too awesome. I can't contain myself	05:51
Ubuntu392944	Anyway to level the awesomeness down?	05:51
Debolaz	chull: If it weren't for Ubuntu I wouldn't even be using *nix on the desktop.	05:51
Ubuntu392944	Its affecting my productivity	05:52
earthbound01	:chull, much much improved. bobertdos: I just took the hd out today, and it said on the drive that it is an 80 gb drive.	05:52
cheeky	hey room sup; i have a question i was straming music onto my vlc player and then i started to watch a video on veoh.com but the sound didnt play and it was kinda choppy .. but my internet was fine .. so i thought of closing vlc player and check if my sound will be turned on in the video; but even worse.. i triead streaming music again .. on vlc and it doesnt play any music @ all .. could some one help me out ?	05:52
Debolaz	Some bugs here and there but alltogether a good experience.	05:52
Debolaz	Right now I'm trying to figure out why SMB shares no longer shows in the open dialgue for applications.	05:53
SebNaitsabes	Debolaz: 42 of the best free Linux audio software: http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080622143124178/Audio.html I also have 3 of those for games	05:53
venger	firewall, click System->Administration->Software Sources, enable Installable from CDROM , put the CD in the drive, do sudo apt-get update, then run the previous command	05:53
Realcoolguy	chull: do you know if you need to adjust your frequency to get it to not flicker? (IE: What frequency have you used in the past?)	05:53
bobertdos	earthbound01: but do you know for a fact that Windows detected it as eighty? How about a live session? Maybe you should check to see if a Live session detects it as 80.	05:53
Niche	hello	05:54
chull	Realcoolguy, I think we had 85 hz	05:54
Debolaz	The only application I have yet to find an open source alternative for is Vmware.	05:54
firewall_03	venger ok... I have the latest version of ubuntu, and I am running the 7.04 how do I upgrade	05:54
Kr0nik	anyone use wicd?	05:54
Realcoolguy	chull: i'm looking and i see a 75hz as a spec	05:54
Debolaz	Due to USB requirements.	05:54
earthbound01	Windows detected it as 80 gb, and I'm in a live session right now.	05:54
Vladimir	i just installed an internal PCI wireless card (Dynex brand, Broadcom chipset). Ubuntu recognizes a wireless card as existing, however i cannot find or connect to my wireless network	05:55
Vladimir	help?	05:55
chull	Realcoolguy, we would be willing to try 75 .. if we can figure out how to change it .. we can adjust as needed after	05:55
Ikarius	no ubunto on the desktop for me, but I'm using it as a home file server, vmware server, and streaming media server for my home theater	05:55
Kr0nik	mine finds wireless, and will connect with 0 signal strength	05:55
Kr0nik	:P	05:55
Realcoolguy	chull: have you installed any ATI or NVIDIA drivers?	05:55
earthbound01	bobert: live session says 40 gig, windows said 80 gig.	05:55
Niche	Does anyone know how to change the font color of the minimized windows???	05:55
compgrokker	Vladimir: did you install the drivers?	05:55
SebNaitsabes	!samba \| Debolaz	05:55
ubottu	Debolaz: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.	05:55
Conexion2	Hey guys, I recent reformatted my Windows partition, and the BIOS screen that let me choose linux or windows doesn't show up. It goes straight to windows. What can I do to fix this?	05:56
firewall_03	!upgrade	05:56
ubottu	For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes	05:56
venger	firewall_03, do you not have a fiesty cd?	05:56
SebNaitsabes	!Grub \| Conexion2	05:56
ubottu	Conexion2: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	05:56
chull	Realcoolguy, we have been fighting it for weeks. our son ssh'ed in from texas and put Hardy on it now. I suspect he thinks he's got the right drivers.. how to check what he did?	05:56
firewall_03	venger nope	05:56
compgrokker	you also have to fiddle with the networking settings	05:56
Vladimir	well no :p let me give it a go	05:56
Kr0nik	my wireless doesnt work period	05:56
Conexion2	Thanks guys, I figured it's a common issue :P	05:56
Kr0nik	right drivers	05:56
Kr0nik	sees networks	05:56
Kr0nik	but doesnt connect	05:56
Realcoolguy	chull: try looking at system>Administration>Hardware Drivers	05:56
FloodBot1	Kr0nik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	05:56
Conexion2	wasn't sure how to google it :P	05:57
Kr0nik	dhcp doesnt hand out ips	05:57
SebNaitsabes	Kr0nik: ndiswrapper or native Linux drivers?	05:57
Debolaz	SebNaitsabes: No, the problem is that the shares don't show up in the open dialogue despite that they are mounted.	05:57
Kr0nik	i dunno i sued some program to install the firmware right over	05:57
Kr0nik	ndiswrapper says im using broadcom drivers but i dont think its using ndiswrapper	05:57
Kr0nik	im using wicd to manage my networks	05:57
Niche	Does anyone know how to change the font color of the minimized windows???	05:57
Kr0nik	iwlist scan shows my network	05:58
Kr0nik	i can set a static ip in wicd and hit connect, it connects at 0 dbm	05:58
CostaRicanQuaker	help	05:58
bobertdos	earthbound01: When you installed Ubuntu, did you allow the installer to completely wipe the drive? Also, what is that extended partition in the list?	05:59
chull	Realcoolguy, it says it has NO proprietary drivers	05:59
outbackwifi	Kr0nik: is it an undecured network?	05:59
firewall_03	venger any ideas?	05:59
CostaRicanQuaker	i have an ide hard drive, i tried a second ide harddrive and that didn't fly so i took it out, i added my other computer's ram memory as this had very little memory, now i can't seem to turn off the computer	05:59
venger	firewall_03, on what?	05:59
jigp	hello how to defrag ubuntu 8.04 desktop?	05:59
outbackwifi	Kr0nik: unsecured	05:59
Kr0nik	yeah	05:59
JoshH	when i doubleclick text in any gnome application, it only selects letter and number characters. any dots or dashes or similar seems to be a boundary. so for example, i cannot double click to select an ip address. can anyone tell me how to fix that?	06:00
Realcoolguy	chull: you probably need to install an ATI or NVIDIA Driver to get your display working fully	06:00
CostaRicanQuaker	sure the mmeory must be working as the computer's faster	06:00
outbackwifi	Kr0nik: does it have dhcp enabled	06:00
CostaRicanQuaker	but it doesnt let me turn off the computer when it shuts off it says there's not a daemon or something	06:00
Kr0nik	the router yes	06:00
bobertdos	!defrag > jigp	06:00
Realcoolguy	Chull: can you confirm that you have an ATI or NVIDIA card?	06:00
ubottu	jigp, please see my private message	06:00
Kr0nik	on here no	06:00
Kr0nik	i set a static ip	06:00
JoshH	non-gnome applications have the normal double click selection, but i can't find any preference about that anywhere	06:00
Kr0nik	if i set it to dhcp and hit connect it wont obtain a ip	06:00
Ikarius	JoshH: don't think that's tunable	06:00
JoshH	Ikarius: i do have another hardy box at work, and it doesn't have the same issue.	06:01
firewall_03	venger what do I need to type to upgrade from 7.04 to the latest version I tryed booting from the cd and that didn't work but the cd worked on my other computer	06:01
Ikarius	JoshH: interesting. I've never seen any other behaviour than what you described	06:01
venger	firewall_03, did you try sticking it in while booted and see if wanted to upgrade?	06:02
cheeky	could anyone tell me why all of a sudden my music doesnt comeback on when my speakers are on and my volume bar is to the max..i was streaming music b4on vlc and i started to play veoh videos in the browser .. and there was no sound from the video .. except vlc still had sound .. but when i stopped vlc .. .. and tried veoh ... still no sound and now i have no sound ... wat could be the problem?	06:02
Jordan_U	firewall_03: You can't upgrade directly from 7.04 to 8.04, you need to upgrade to 7.10 first then 8.04	06:02
ph0rensic	Grub is not autofinding my windows partition, and I don't quite understand how to make an entry to GRUB.. Any experienced users want to take a stab at it?	06:02
firewall_03	Jordan_U why does that matter	06:02
firewall_03	venger yes I did	06:02
outbackwifi	Kr0nik: if you do sudo dhclient ath0 (if that is your wireless interface) wht do you get	06:02
Jordan_U	firewall_03: Also, only the alternate CD / DVD can do upgrades	06:02
slashjamiec	ph0rensic: Looks like you've got a date with fstab :)	06:03
venger	firewall_03, there you go, burn another cd or actually why not just burn a fiesty cd and fix the network first by installing the madwifi package from the cd	06:03
Kr0nik	outback can i pm it to you?	06:03
ph0rensic	slashjamiec: What does fstab have to do with it?	06:03
firewall_03	venger I don't have the fiesty cd iso	06:03
ph0rensic	slashjamiec: I dont want to mount the drive.. i got it to do that	06:04
venger	firewall_03, download it	06:04
outbackwifi	Kr0nik: pastebin it pls	06:04
ph0rensic	slashjamiec: I want to be able to boot to windows for some obscure programs I need to run	06:04
slashjamiec	ph0rensic: Ooops. You want to be able to select the partition to boot from?	06:04
earthbound01	did chat go idle?	06:04
slashjamiec	ph0rensic: I see.	06:04
RickZilla	Ok, trying this again...apparently, the file I downloaded was corrupt somehow...going to try a different mirror and see what happens	06:05
bobertdos	ph0rensic: menu.lst takes center stage here :D	06:05
ph0rensic	slashjamiec: yah..It's weird because it always showed up in the boot menu till I installed kubuntu on a seperate drive a few weeks ago, and since then grub doesn't auto find it, even though it is on the same disk as my main ubuntu install	06:05
venger	anyone know for sure that the madwifi-tools package in distributed on the CDrom, i guess in fiesty it was in universe at that time. i dont know the rules on that and i dont want to unknowingly mislead firewall_03	06:05
firewall_03	venger whats the download link for the older versions	06:05
slashjamiec	ph0rensic: Oh yeah ...ummm well	06:06
ph0rensic	bobertdos: I agree, I just am not confident on how to write it.. actually here is a question, Say I have two drives both with linux drives on them, how do you tell which drive is loading grub?	06:06
earthbound01	bobertdos: when I installed Ubuntu I did allow it to completely wipe the drive. I have no idea what the extended partition is for.	06:06
Madpilot	venger, madwifi-tools looks to still be in Universe; whether it's also on the CD-Rom I don't know.	06:07
slashjamiec	ph0rensic: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst , then add a # infront of "hiddenmenu", and then try that. If it doesn't show your bootable windows partition then you'll need to manually enter it by	06:07
venger	firewall_03, acquaint yourself with google, search term; download fiesty	06:07
Kr0nik	outback: http://pastebin.com/m668e3269	06:07
slashjamiec	ph0rensic: title Windows	06:07
slashjamiec	root (hd0,4)	06:08
slashjamiec	savedefault	06:08
slashjamiec	makeactive	06:08
slashjamiec	chainloader +1	06:08
FloodBot1	slashjamiec: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	06:08
RickZilla	ok, when I create a disk image for the file ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso, it should create a Live cd where I can try out Ubuntu, right? For some reason, I'm not getting the "Start" option	06:08
firewall_03	venger no need to be a douche thats what I am doing	06:08
bobertdos	ph0rensic: If you've ever read the grub wiki entry, you would see that the partition in control is whatever "find /boot/grub/stage1" returns.	06:08
venger	firewall_03, well good luck on the remainder of your endeavor	06:08
Niche	Has anyone gotten MediaTomb to work correctly with their PS3 yet on 8.04???	06:08
ph0rensic	bobertdos: Thanks but you don't have to chastise me :-)	06:09
firewall_03	venger I will probably be back to ask more questions if u can stomach to answer me	06:09
danbh_intrepid	RickZilla: no	06:10
ph0rensic	slashjamiec: I know it doesn't show up on the menu because I have several entries for other OS's	06:10
bobertdos	ph0rensic: Didn't mean it that way, sorry. I just am used to interpreting things for people. Actually, it's whichever partition grub regards as root.	06:10
slashjamiec	ph0rensic: okay	06:10
RickZilla	Ok, how do I create a Live CD then/	06:10
_phoenix_	i cant unse dpkg	06:10
ph0rensic	bobertdos: Doesn't that depend on which OS I am currently in though?	06:10
ph0rensic	Or which drive I am booted in to?	06:11
_phoenix_	Starting Monitor Daemon for Secure Virtual Private Network: cp: cannot stat `/etc/inittab': No such file or directory	06:11
_phoenix_	invoke-rc.d: initscript secvpnmon, action "start" failed.	06:11
Jordan_U	_phoenix_: Why not?	06:11
danbh_intrepid	RickZilla: the alternate cd, is not the livecd. the livecd IS the livecd. Thats the main difference...	06:11
_phoenix_	dont know	06:11
RickZilla	ah, ok...that's available for download also? I musta missed it	06:11
Jordan_U	_phoenix_: Can you pastebin the errors if any you get when you try?	06:11
danbh_intrepid	RickZilla: ya	06:11
_phoenix_	Starting Monitor Daemon for Secure Virtual Private Network: cp: cannot stat `/etc/inittab': No such file or directory	06:11
_phoenix_	invoke-rc.d: initscript secvpnmon, action "start" failed.	06:11
_phoenix_	there is it	06:11
_phoenix_	!paste	06:12
ubottu	pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)	06:12
RickZilla	On this page, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download, I'm not sure which one to download, if I want to create a Live CD	06:12
outbackwifi	Kr0nik: this doesnt look like you're connecting to the access point at all --> Link Quality=0/100 Signal level=0 dBm Noise level=0 dBm	06:12
earthbound01	I'm off to bed, thanks for looking in to stuff. If anybody has anyplace I should look regarding my harddrive misreading, please let me know.	06:12
bobertdos	ph0rensic: Well, Windows is usually regarded as its own root because generally Grub chainloads Windows. Otherwise, it really just comes down to whichever partition you set as Grub's root when you follow that wiki.	06:12
Kr0nik	it says that even when i hit connect in wicd	06:13
danbh_intrepid	RickZilla: did you check the little box?? you want it unchecked...	06:13
balrog	how do i get thunderbird to display html mail?	06:13
balrog	*correctly	06:13
_phoenix_	jordan_u http://paste.ubuntu.com/45636/	06:13
hustledaily	Anyone here ever have problems with madwifi/wpa_supplicant and setting wpa-psk? I can see the card and see networks but cannot set my wpa key. I have the config file set, and tried to use wpa_cli with no success... ALL help appreciated!	06:13
RickZilla	danbh_intrepid: The one right below "Start Download"? It's unchecked...and I'm pretty sure it was unchecked when I downloaded it earlier	06:14
ph0rensic	bobertdos: I suppose if I knew a little more about the boot process and MBR etc It'd make a little more sense	06:15
_phoenix_	http://paste.ubuntu.com/45636/ can anyone help me to fix this?	06:15
Jordan_U	_phoenix_: Would you mind filing a bug report against the secvpn package?	06:15
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_phoenix_	jordan_u what?	06:15
danbh_intrepid	RickZilla: http://samaritan.ucmerced.edu/ubuntu-releases/cd/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso	06:15
JoshH	Ikarius: i got it fixed for gnome-terminal (which i cared about the most, by far) by adding some character classes to the "select-by-word characters" box in the profile settings	06:16
danbh_intrepid	RickZilla: I even hacked your location, and tried to pick a good server for you!	06:16
RickZilla	danbh_intrepid: Thanks, somehow I downloaded the other one	06:16
JoshH	somehow i never noticed that there before	06:16
RickZilla	ha, thanks	06:16
Jordan_U	_phoenix_: That error seems to be a bug in the secvpn package that should be fixed, if you report it hopefully someone else won't have the same problem that you are having in the future	06:16
bobertdos	ph0rensic: My menu.lst looks like this, as an example. On average, my Windows entry is the standard. http://paste.ubuntu.com/45637/	06:16
outbackwifi	Kr0nik: how far away are you from the AP?	06:16
RickZilla	There's actually a mirror about 40 miles from here, but it's really slow	06:16
Kr0nik	my router?	06:17
Kr0nik	like 15 feet	06:17
Jordan_U	_phoenix_: Either way, do you need the secvpn package installed or is OK to remove it to get dpkg working again?	06:17
danbh_intrepid	RickZilla: well, you are from, Oregon, which I guessed is near Cali, so I pick the one in CA	06:17
RickZilla	There are about 3 closer...but this is working just fine	06:17
RickZilla	Walla Walla U., University of Idaho, and Oregon State University	06:17
RickZilla	This one is faster than those 3, I think	06:18
Jordan_U	RickZilla: Try using Software Source's automatic repository chooser	06:18
RickZilla	I've had a heck of a time getting the right file tonight...the first one was corrupt	06:18
chull	Realcoolguy, it sort of crashed but as son says "not entirely" .. someone flooded us off of undernet on all my clients..dunno if it's all related to the vonage phone losing it's call log (don't you love technology?)	06:18
ph0rensic	bobertdos: Here is my current config .. I sort of deleted on of the other OS's that was on my other drive so now just 2 OS's and windows is missing http://paste.ubuntu.com/45638/	06:19
bobertdos	earthbound01: I would maybe try installing Ubuntu again, and if you didn't the first time, use manual control so you can delete every existing partition yourself, and so that nothing happens that you don't know about.	06:19
argento	guys widescreen support on virtualbox is only supported on installed OS? I try to configure wide resolution on live cd trial...	06:19
Realcoolguy	chull: the menu i sent you to should let you install the driver as well, at least i think...	06:19
RickZilla	The help in here has been well appreciated, btw...I've never been on an IRC channel where the help came so quickly	06:19
b4b3	hello	06:20
Jordan_U	argento: You may be able to install virtualbox tools in the liveCD session, did you try that?	06:20
ph0rensic	RickZilla: Yes the Ubuntu channel rocks	06:20
RickZilla	A couple other IRC's I frequent are plain rude	06:20
RickZilla	GIMP, for one...and I use that software all the time	06:20
argento	Jordan_U, can you explain how?	06:20
ph0rensic	RickZilla: Try asking a simple question in Myth-users!	06:20
RickZilla	ha	06:20
bobertdos	ph0rensic: So, all that Mint stuff is also still part of your system, or no?	06:21
ph0rensic	bobertdos: This has to be the wrong menu.lst	06:22
RickZilla	My ultimate goal: Get handy with installing/using Ubuntu, and install them on some older machines so I can loan them out to families from our school who don't otherwise have access to a computer	06:22
ph0rensic	bobertdos: I don't have 7.10 anymore (LinuxMCE with kubuntu)	06:22
outbackwifi	Kr0nik: which driver did you use with ndiswrapper?	06:22
ph0rensic	bobertdos: it should only be 8.04 Ubuntu and Mint	06:23
outbackwifi	Kr0nik: was it WinXP or Windows 98?	06:23
bobertdos	ph0rensic: Oh, well where did you pull it from?	06:23
Kr0nik	bcmwl5	06:23
Kr0nik	um i do not know	06:24
ph0rensic	bobertdos: My last install was the latest mint.. so I should go to that partition and pull the list from there?	06:24
Kr0nik	i can setup a shell acount for you and you can check it out	06:24
bobertdos	ph0rensic: Well, if Mint happens to be the dominant loader right now, then yes.	06:24
ph0rensic	bobertdos: haah figured ok copying it now..	06:25
Kr0nik	i found a program in the ubuntu forums that had a python install file. i ran it and set it up to copy the firmware over and then the lights went on on my card	06:25
Jordan_U	_phoenix_: It seems someone else has already filed a bug report, do you need secvpn or is it OK to remove it to get dpkg working again?	06:25
Kr0nik	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990 i followed that	06:26
ph0rensic	bobertdos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45641/ .. How does BIOS know where to look for the correct menu to load?	06:26
ushimitsudoki	I am trying to adjust the latency of some devices. However after the appropriate "sudo setpci", when I check with "lspci -v", the latency values remain the same as before. Why can I not adjust the latencies?	06:27
kindofabuzz	uname -p unknown good or bad?	06:28
Ubuntu392944	Does ubuntu have like a central control center? To edit settings? Or just the usual KDE control panel? (Sorry if I sound confused, its because I somewhat am! im new to this distro)	06:29
bobertdos	ph0rensic: Well, when Grub gets installed, it either gets installed directly onto the Master Boot Record (which is generally not the way people prefer to do it), or it gets installed to a specific partition, in which case I suppose a little flag or something like that is set upon the MBR to let the system know to jump there.	06:29
Kr0nik	kindofabuzz: i get that too.	06:29
kindofabuzz	Kr0nik, probably no biggie, it's supposed to list your processor. are you amd by any chance?	06:30
Kr0nik	yeah	06:30
ph0rensic	bobertdos: If there are 2 drives that are both able to boot OS's how does it know which to choose? the MBR is in the first 512-byte sector of the HDD no?	06:31
Gnuyen	is there a way to make cp make all the directories	06:32
Gnuyen	in a path	06:32
Flannel	ph0rensic: the BIOS does	06:32
Gnuyen	like if i do cp testfile /someplace/someotherplace/testfile	06:32
kevin_	I'm running Hardy on an HP v6000, anyone have problems with the SYSTEM Standby? -- mine doesn't work...	06:32
Kr0nik	kindofabuzz: are you trying to find out what cpu you have?	06:32
ylmario	hey	06:32
Jordan_U	Gnuyen: You can use mkdir -p first	06:32
Gnuyen	and have it make the directories /someplace/someotherplace	06:32
Kr0nik	kindofabuzz: cat /proc/cpuinfo	06:32
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ph0rensic	Flannel: Info gets stored onto the BIOS flagging which drives to look for the MBR?	06:32
ylmario	does anyone know how to get atheros cards working on ubuntu	06:32
kindofabuzz	Kr0nik, yeah i know, i'm just messing with commands	06:32
Flannel	ph0rensic: The BIOS is configured to boot to one of the drives or the other.	06:33
Gnuyen	Jordan_U: but no way to do it with cp or some other thing?	06:33
Assargadon	is it possible to find my logins and logouts history somehow?	06:33
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^Phantom^[linux]	Hi :D	06:34
^Phantom^[linux]	This is cool	06:34
Jordan_U	Gnuyen: What do you mean "or some other thing"?	06:34
bobertdos	ph0rensic: So, if you take into account Flannel's point, part of your probably could be that your BIOS' boot priority is set to the drive opposite of what you want.	06:34
Gnuyen	Jordan_U: a different command	06:34
Gnuyen	basically I have a list of files and I don't want to have to parse out the path and pass it into mkdir	06:34
^Phantom^[linux]	Now, just one question	06:34
Gnuyen	and then do the copy	06:34
kervel	hello, my keyboard mappings are completely broken since last upgrade in ubuntu intrepid ... is this a known problem ?	06:35
bobertdos	ph0rensic: *part of your problem, I meant to say	06:35
Gnuyen	i want to do it with one command if possible	06:35
Kr0nik	Assargadon: try cat/dev/log/auth.log	06:35
kervel	no more alt gr, no more arrow keys, ..	06:35
^Phantom^[linux]	How can I get this VM to let the resolution go above 800x600?	06:35
Kr0nik	Assargadon: try cat /dev/log/auth.log	06:35
Kr0nik	woops	06:35
Kr0nik	missed a space lol	06:35
vn	hai, I'm with a laptop on a livecd and I want to test the CPU cooling that I just fixed, what would be a CPU intensive command I could use?	06:35
Jordan_U	Gnuyen: It would be a simple script using the "dirname" command	06:35
hateball	Assargadon: That'd be /var/log/auth.log , not /dev	06:35
ph0rensic	bobertdos: I doubt it because the partition that has windows on it is the same as the other two OS's, I formatted the whole other drive just to see if that could be part of the problem for auto configuration of grub, and it didn't do anything	06:35
Kr0nik	yeah i ment var	06:36
Gnuyen	hrm	06:36
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Gnuyen	that'll work	06:36
Kr0nik	woops big slip	06:36
Gnuyen	thanks	06:36
^P[ubuntu]^	there, shorter nick :D	06:36
ph0rensic	bobertdos: It is strange because grub has never done this to me before.. but also a good learning experience..	06:36
Jordan_U	Gnuyen: mkdir $( dirname $DESTINATION ) && cp $SOURCE $DESTINATION	06:37
Gnuyen	mkdir -p /backup/`dirname $filename`; cp $filename /backup$filename	06:37
Gnuyen	Jordan_U: or like that too	06:37
Nu	1	06:37
bobertdos	ph0rensic: Well, it seems to be that the loader with Mint in the list is the dominant one right now. Is that accurate?	06:37
Niche	Has anyone gotten MediaTomb to work correctly with their PS3 yet on 8.04???	06:38
EK9	Got a question! I'am using Transmission for downloading an Torrent file. And on Windows XP i was able to download at 300k\sec and on Ubuntu, i just downloading at 2k\sec... WHY? Please!	06:38
balz	how do you delete a directory and all of it's contents via command line?	06:38
Nu	มันเล่นยังงัยอ่ะ	06:38
Kr0nik	rm -f /directory	06:38
Jordan_U	balz: rm -r	06:38
Nu	พระเจ้าจอซ	06:38
balz	thanks	06:39
Niche	be careful now @! lol	06:39
Tha_Vampyr	Just wondering if anyone is using gtksee with gnome, and if so can they give me some pointers to get it going (newb)	06:39
Jordan_U	Kr0nik: Please don't suggest using -f when it is not needed	06:39
ph0rensic	bobertdos: Absolutely, so now we just have to edit it to work with my windows partition which I found to be on sdb1 btw..	06:39
Nu	ใครก็ได้ สอนหน่อย	06:39
balz	Jordan_U what's the difference?	06:39
Niche	do you know what rm -f /directory/ * would do	06:39
ph0rensic	the empty drive is sda1 ...	06:39
wat	okay I have a computer with no cdrom, if I go and buy a USB cdrom, will I be able to dl ubuntu and burn it to a CD then create a new partition on comp with the USB cdrom and install ubuntu that way???? will that work????	06:39
^P[ubuntu]^	crap i forgot how to mount my shared folder... <_< lol	06:40
ThePub	wat: if your mb supports it, sure	06:40
wat	i have a flash drive but apparently that wont be able to partition the drive	06:40
EJ	wat: if your pc's bios supports booting from usb	06:40
wat	so im guessing i have to buy a cdrom usb drive or something	06:40
Jordan_U	balz: One forces deletion even if there is a possible reason why the file shouldn't be deleted ( though it doesn't actually work with directories with -f alone ) the other recursively deletes all files in he directory and the directory itself	06:40
ThePub	wat: you could do it from flash too with a little work and another computer.	06:40
ph0rensic	^P[ubuntu]^: Can you navigate to it and right click mount?	06:40
wat	yah it has the options	06:41
wat	pub how, im clueless with linux is prob	06:41
balz	Jordan_U thanks!	06:41
wat	but id rather do it from flash drive	06:41
vn	Nu: english please, not sure if there's a thai help channel	06:41
hateball	!thai	06:41
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about thai	06:41
Assargadon	hateball, Kr0nik : thanks. There are no such files in my ubuntu insatllation, but it helps me to find "last" command :)	06:41
EK9	Got a question! I'am using Transmission for downloading an Torrent file. And on Windows XP i was able to download at 300k\sec and on Ubuntu, i just downloading at 2k\sec... WHY? Please!	06:41
hateball	Nope, guess not	06:41
vn	heh	06:41
bobertdos	ph0rensic: Alright, well Grub's labeling scheme is a bit different, but sdb1 probably means hd(1,0). Based on that, I'm guessing Windows was the first OS installed to your second hard drive, Ubuntu second, and Mint third. Correct?	06:41
vn	btw, I'm with a laptop on a livecd and I want to test the CPU cooling that I just fixed, what would be a CPU intensive command I could use?	06:41
Tha_Vampyr	/msg nickserv register chaotic richard@chaoticbydesign.com	06:41
Nu	เล่นงัยอ่ะ	06:42
* vn spams		06:42
vn	:p	06:42
Jordan_U	Tha_Vampyr: Might want to change your password :)	06:42
EJ	wat: read this page it will explain all. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick	06:42
Tha_Vampyr	yes yes i might :P	06:42
Tha_Vampyr	that said i dont actually have one :P	06:42
RickZilla	Just so I've got this straight...nothing in Ubuntu will support .mp3 files, but I can always download and install something like Songbird and play them from there...is that correct?	06:42
ph0rensic	bobertdos: The order is complicated BUT the partitions is somewhat like sdb1=windows, sdb2=linux root sdb3=swap sdb4=linux mint lemme double check that	06:43
hateball	RickZilla: Lots of applications support ,mp3, you just need the restricted codecs	06:43
^P[ubuntu]^	i'll try	06:43
RickZilla	ah, so Songbird wouldn't necessarily have that codec	06:44
magnetron	RickZilla, every app in ubuntu will support mp3 if you just get the right codecs. install the package "ubuntu-restricted-extras" and you should be set	06:44
ph0rensic	bobertdos: I knew there was something awry with GRUB's schema	06:44
^P[ubuntu]^	no	06:44
magnetron	RickZilla, exactly	06:44
RickZilla	good to know...thanks, do I just google that to download?	06:44
ph0rensic	RickZilla: Do it from the command line or use synaptic package manager	06:44
Aorjang	เอ้ย	06:44
hateball	RickZilla: Use the add/remove application	06:44
^P[ubuntu]^	ph0rensic: VirtualBox told me to type some kind of command	06:44
^P[ubuntu]^	I forgot what to type <_<	06:44
magnetron	RickZilla, no. go to Applications > add/remove, then find the package named "ubuntu-restricted-extras"	06:45
RickZilla	...ok, but I need to download that package first, correct?	06:45
RickZilla	ah, ok...gotcha	06:45
bobertdos	ph0rensic: Yup, but at any rate, I would put an entry in for Windows using hd(1,0). That's my guess.	06:45
NCommander	http://blueballfixed.ytmnd.com/ o_o;	06:45
RickZilla	I'm still trying to get a clean download! :-)	06:45
reqqit	join #linuxhelp	06:45
reqqit	damn slash	06:45
magnetron	RickZilla, you don't need to download anything manually	06:45
Aorjang	hello	06:45
magnetron	RickZilla, just follow the instruction i gave you.	06:45
RickZilla	gotcha...I'm on my 3rd d/l attempt...the first one was corrupted, the 2nd was the wrong file	06:46
ph0rensic	bobertdos: I was correct in my partitioning scheme	06:46
Aorjang	my name is aorjang	06:46
^P[ubuntu]^	ph0rensic: I have the folder set up in VirtualBox but ubuntu is not seeing it	06:46
Aorjang	ชีวิต	06:46
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Aorjang	อยากเล่นแต่เล่นมะเปง	06:46
bobertdos	ph0rensic: Good, well it sounds like you're getting things under control. I'll back off now, :D	06:46
patrick	um	06:47
patrick	hi	06:47
patrick	i need some help	06:47
Aorjang	มะมีคนไทยเลย	06:47
patrick	with my essay	06:47
Aorjang	5555555555555555	06:47
FloodBot1	patrick: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	06:47
FloodBot1	Aorjang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	06:47
ph0rensic	^P[ubuntu]^: hang on bud	06:47
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^P[ubuntu]^	thank you :)	06:47
Guest81291	Aorjang sa wad dee	06:47
Jordan_U	!english \| Aorjang	06:47
ubottu	Aorjang: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat	06:47
Guest81291	Aorjan‎g is speaking thai	06:48
reqqit	Is using ubuntu live CD for disk recovery / data recovery a useful idea? Anyone had to recover data from a drive?	06:48
johninlex	Darn you all know there is no way to use up 6gig of ram I cant gegt no closes than 98% any ony know how to use the other 2%? or why I cant use it	06:48
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Aorjang	yer	06:48
patrck	see	06:48
Aorjang	yes	06:48
co_anuh	hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii	06:48
patrck	i know because i'm thai also	06:48
Aorjang	speak thai	06:48
patrck	sa bai dee mai?	06:48
Aorjang	i do not play	06:48
Flannel	!english	06:48
ubottu	The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat	06:48
patrck	flannel can u help me with my essay	06:49
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Flannel	patrck: No, try #ubuntu-offtopic	06:49
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patrck	word	06:49
Tha_Vampyr	anyone using GTKSee?	06:49
Tha_Vampyr	(on gnome)	06:49
bobertdos	reqqit: Oh yes, heck yes, I've used Ubuntu Live sessions for so many backup/recovery type things, and I love it!	06:50
Niche	am I able to still use my gnome desktop if I enable and install kcontrol?	06:50
Jordan_U	Niche: Yes	06:50
bobertdos	!recover > reqqit	06:50
ubottu	reqqit, please see my private message	06:50
lunat1que	quelqu'un parle francais ici ?	06:50
patrck	flanned whats some good apllication	06:50
balz	how do i connect to a wpa2 wifi network on the command line?	06:51
reqqit	bobertdos, cheers - burning the live CD again (gave away last copy)	06:51
bobertdos	!fr \| lunat1que	06:51
ubottu	lunat1que: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr	06:51
Niche	Jordan_U, so if I edit my minimized windows font color with kcontrol it will still work even though I use gnome, right?	06:51
lunat1que	tnx ubottu	06:51
ph0rensic	bobertdos: Ok so the 0 of hd(1,0) stands for the first partition of that disk? so it doesn't account for the first boot part of the disk??	06:51
wat	so what ubuntu do I need to install if I plan on burning it to a disk to use to boot/reformat my comp??	06:51
^P[ubuntu]^	Also, can I get the clipboards to "combine"	06:51
^P[ubuntu]^	so that I can easily copy text and files back and forth	06:51
balz	what's the cli command to connect to a wireless network?	06:52
Jordan_U	Niche: I don't think that kcontol will change any gnome preferences	06:52
bobertdos	ph0rensic: correct	06:52
Flannel	ph0rensic: By the time you get to GRUB, you're already past the MBR stage of the boot process	06:52
Bandman614	balz: I use "iwconfig <int> essid any"	06:52
Bandman614	then I run "iwconfig <int>" to see what essid it picked up. you can specify what essid you want it to get, instead of "any"	06:53
balz	Bandman614: can you help me break that command down? what is <int> essid any?	06:53
UUd	hai	06:53
ph0rensic	Flannel: Thanks I realize this, Im just coming to terms with how grub reads the drives	06:53
Bandman614	Well, for me, <int> is eth1. Some people it's wlan0. If you run "iwconfig" by itself, it'll tell you which one to use, because the others won't have wireless extensions	06:53
Bandman614	I think that's the terminology	06:53
Flannel	ph0rensic: the same way linux does, just with only numbers, and starting at 0	06:53
ph0rensic	Flannel: How does it determine between SATA and PATA, how does it issue priority?	06:54
Bandman614	essid any just says "pick up whichever wireless signal is the strongest"	06:54
balz	!l33tBandman614... i get lo and eth0 ... with no wireless extensions when i run iwconfig... is something wrong?	06:54
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	06:54
Flannel	ph0rensic: Its given a list of drives by the BIOS, so the bios handles that sorting.	06:54
ph0rensic	Flannel: OIC thanks dude.	06:55
Bandman614	balz: Your wireless driver isn't loaded. Do you know what kind of card you have?	06:55
bex	anyone able to give some advice on access the windows shares in nautilus. I have ubuntu 8.04, i have joined the windows domain successfully using likewise. however when i browse the network shares, the servers appear but not the shares within them. eg. smb://rtisrv/ has an empty window yet smb://rtisrv/rtiday (though it asks me for a username and password)	06:55
balz	Bandman614: yes it's a ralink chipset. rt2860	06:55
chull	if 'escape' isn't working how can i get out of vi insert mode?	06:56
johninlex	anyone know how to save an image that is 26498X2254, I just created my own skydome pic and I cant save it	06:56
Rat409	chull: try :c	06:56
Bandman614	balz: Looks like this guy manually downloaded the source and compiled it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=683085	06:57
balz	Bandman614. yeah that's what i just did	06:57
essial	Anyone know why I would get an "/lib/libc.so.6: file not recognized: File format not recognized" while trying to bootstrap the latest gcc (4.3.2)?	06:57
chull	Rat409, not if you can't get out of insert mode to make : work	06:57
ph0rensic	bobertdos: If I manually add a grub menu that is incorrect, will I still be able to boot back to the known good options>	06:58
johninlex	anyone know how to save an image that is 26498X22541 please help	06:58
Rat409	chull: hmm i'm no vi wiz maybe :q	06:58
ph0rensic	johninlex: Are you sure it is a resolution problem?	06:58
Bandman614	balz: ok. Did it give you a module to load, or does it interact with ndis?	06:58
johninlex	no	06:59
Bandman614	I don't have any experience with this chip, in case you were curious ;-)	06:59
balz	Bandman614: i'm not sure. how can i check?	06:59
bobertdos	ph0rensic: Yes you should, and of course, if things go particularly bad, you can use a Live session to mount the drive and edit the file from there.	06:59
Bandman614	Did the "make" finish successfully?	06:59
balz	Bandman614: no worries. i'm sure you know more than I do	06:59
balz	Bandman614: as far as i could tell yes. i saw no error codes	06:59
johninlex	I can save the smaller one that I created earler, but I cant save this huge image ph0rensic	07:00
essial	are you talking to me bandman?	07:00
ph0rensic	bobertdos: I loaded gparted to check my partitions and for the flags under the windows partition it didn't show it having a bootable flag, could this be why grub isn't finding it during its automatic search or is this normally how it will appear?	07:00
Bandman614	essial: no, sorry. balz	07:00
balz	Bandman614: could this be a module? MODPOST 1 modules	07:00
balz	LD [M] /home/louis/RaLink/os/linux/rt2860sta.ko	07:00
Bandman614	Could be. Can you paste the output into here and post the url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/	07:01
ph0rensic	johninlex: That is strange, Im not quite sure how to trouble shoot that, are you saving it to the same folder you saved in before?	07:01
Bandman614	yea	07:01
Bandman614	that's the url	07:01
Bandman614	err	07:01
Bandman614	module	07:01
Bandman614	(it's late)	07:01
balz	haha okay	07:01
FloodBot1	Bandman614: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:01
balz	Bandman614. indeed it is!	07:01
ph0rensic	^P[ubuntu]^: What was the issue again?	07:01
Bandman614	heh.	07:01
bobertdos	ph0rensic: Possibly, I'm not a hundred percent certain to be perfectly honest.	07:01
balz	so what do i do with the module?	07:01
ph0rensic	Flannel: ?? ^^	07:01
Bandman614	ok, balz. type "sudo insmod /home/louis/RaLink/os/linux/rt2860sta.ko"	07:01
Bandman614	that's saying "insert this module into the kernel"	07:02
aj_	i have bluetooth in my laptop...how do i use it in ubuntu?	07:02
Flannel	ph0rensic: bootable flags mean nothing to almost all OSes	07:02
johninlex	ph0rensic , I have tried to use another folder and the same one, diff. names, diff formats about everything I can think of	07:02
balz	Bandman614: i think it succeeded silently	07:02
Bandman614	which will hopefully provide you the interface	07:02
Bandman614	excellent	07:02
balz	iwconfig?	07:02
Bandman614	run "iwconfig" again without any options	07:02
bobertdos	Flannel: Forgive me for being ot a moment, but I just want to give you ops credit where credit is due. I don't know how you guys do this every day. It's tiring! :D	07:02
^P[ubuntu]^	getting my shared folder to mount to linux with VirtualBox	07:02
ph0rensic	Flannel: Ok thanks I like u	07:02
johninlex	it would be a nicest skydome pic ever if I could save it, ph0rensic	07:02
balz	Bandman: we are getting somewhere! let me pastebin	07:02
Bandman614	ok, try the "iwconfig <interface> essid auto" again	07:03
Flannel	bobertdos: we appreciate it	07:03
ph0rensic	johninlex: Make sure you are saving to a folder that you have permission to write to	07:03
balz	bandman614: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45649/	07:04
johninlex	ph0rensic I am the only user, thats not the problem	07:04
ph0rensic	Well you and root.	07:04
balz	Bandman: what do i replace <interface> with?	07:04
Bandman614	hah, that's great :)	07:04
Bandman614	ra0	07:05
Bandman614	iwconfig ra0 essid any	07:05
johninlex	ph0rensic, yes I have no root, i took the root user out, I know I shouldnt have but i did	07:05
patrck	how do u spell suprise	07:05
aj_	can anyone tell me how to use bluetooth in ubuntu...iam not able to send or recieve any file	07:05
ph0rensic	surprise	07:05
Bandman614	surprise?	07:05
patrck	oh yea	07:05
patrck	thx	07:05
* bobertdos facepalms		07:05
balz	Bandman614: i get this root@kiosk:/etc/init.d# iwconfig iwconfig ra0 essid any	07:05
balz	iwconfig: unknown command "ra0"	07:05
Bandman614	google = best spellcheck evar.	07:05
Vladimir	i hate installing stuff on linux	07:05
Vladimir	you'd think	07:05
Vladimir	there'd be an easier way	07:06
ph0rensic	Vladimir: I love it it is too easy	07:06
balz	Vladmir: .debs should be required under penalty of torture	07:06
Bandman614	reread your command line ;-) it should be "iwconfig ra0 essid any"	07:06
balz	oh duh...	07:06
johninlex	ph0rensic , I will figuare this out see you all soon thanks for the thoughts	07:06
ph0rensic	Atleast with using the package manager its easy .. synaptic and compiling are a pain	07:06
balz	it's late... lol	07:06
Vladimir	but no, it has to be tar svxflweart4 filedirectory.tar.gz upurasstoo/ls	07:06
Bandman614	Vlad: easier than apt-get?	07:06
SaraSmith	wife of chull... i broke it good.	07:06
ph0rensic	john ok gl	07:06
jahnkeanater	is there a addon i need for apache2 to use .swf files or is there something i have to do to fire fox	07:07
balz	Bandman: Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :	07:07
balz	SET failed on device ra0 ; Network is down.	07:07
Vladimir	well i'm trying to get ndiswrapper on this system	07:07
jahnkeanater	i think its firefox	07:07
Bandman614	hrm.	07:07
SaraSmith	atm we have NO video..	07:07
Vladimir	so i can get my wireless drivers	07:07
balz	Vladimir: what card?	07:07
Vladimir	and the install instructions may as well be in a different language	07:07
ph0rensic	.debs aren't always the best method to install	07:07
Vladimir	Dynex Wireless-G PCI card	07:08
balz	ph0rensic: lies!	07:08
Vladimir	uses Broadcom i believe	07:08
^P[ubuntu]^	rather	07:08
^P[ubuntu]^	i put a folder up for sharing on my network	07:08
^P[ubuntu]^	how can i access that folder in ubuntu?	07:08
aj_	can anyone tell me how to use bluetooth in ubuntu...i am not able to send or recieve any file	07:08
Bax	what's the terminal command for deleting a directory, and all files and sub-directories within said directory?	07:08
bum	lspci -v	07:08
balz	Bandman614... i'm confused by the essid any part. there's a specific network i want to join and i know the ssid	07:08
Vladimir	i picked it up for free from my buddy's house earlier today because trying to use ethernet and a hub to use my PC as a host did not work	07:09
ph0rensic	balz: .deb does make it easy yes, but they can also leave you hanging if they were compiled on slightly different versions of libraries than yours (for example)	07:09
Bandman614	balz: Then specify the name instead of using any	07:09
balz	Bandman; the computer i'm trying to connect is already connected via ethernet too, if that matters	07:09
Bandman614	balz: but I don't think it will work yet. Try this: "sudo ifup ra0"	07:09
ph0rensic	bobertdos: So you think just manually enter that (1,0) entry that you have (and of course the other 3 lines or whatever) should do the trick?	07:10
Bandman614	balz: Na, the physical ethernet won't interfere with this any	07:10
balz	Bandman614: Ignoring unknown interface ra0=ra0.	07:10
jahnkeanater	where can i install a flash pluging for firefox	07:10
Bandman614	ph0rensic: You're right, deb, like lots of others, has it's own quirks, but after 10 years of running Slack, I'm grateful for it	07:10
Rajec	guys does ubuntu become slower after using it for several months ?	07:10
bobertdos	ph0rensic: Ideally, of course one should always remain on guard when it comes to dealing with these things :D	07:10
jahnkeanater	i think i have gnash but i dont know if that works with the update	07:11
Rakuli	Good afternoon :D I was wondering if anyone knew how I could give 1 user (who is not an admin and cannot access sudo), the ability to restart apache -- presently I have to use sudo /etc... restart or be signed in as root. Is there a permission for this, or a group I can add them to?	07:11
Bandman614	balz: try: ifconfig eth1 and see what it says	07:11
ph0rensic	bobertdos: I didn't really understand some of the text i read regarding it is why I ask	07:11
wbmj	jahnkeanater: sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree	07:11
Bandman614	balz: I'm looking at this page here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-259234.html	07:12
jahnkeanater	k thx	07:12
balz	Bandman614: not found. eth0?	07:12
balz	bc eth0 gives me something	07:12
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Bandman614	eth0 is your physical ethernet, I'd wager	07:12
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balz	seems like it	07:12
ph0rensic	bobertdos: I suppose now I know which file it is concerning and I have a livecd in case and I can just make a backup file	07:12
Bandman614	I hate to do this, but I've got to run. I've got to be up in 5 hours, and I've still got cleaning to do in the house. We're trying to sell it and someone is coming to look at it tomorrow	07:13
bobertdos	ph0rensic: The main concept to understand when it comes to the Windows entry is chainloading. This essentially just means that one bootloader loads another.	07:13
balz	are there any cheap wpa2-compliant wifi cards that ubuntu supports out of the box?	07:13
Vladimir	k entered lspci -v	07:13
UUd	hey	07:13
ph0rensic	bobertdos: Got it.. and now the grub structure makes sense (starts with 0 for partition 1 etc)	07:13
balz	Bandman: totally understandable. don't sweat it	07:13
Vladimir	Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 (Airgotce One 54g)	07:14
* bobertdos nods		07:14
balz	just one quick question	07:14
reqqit	I've mounted the disk and backed up most things, but some files in the directory I don't have permissions to read --- these files were copied from a flash drive from a windows system	07:14
jahnkeanater	cant find	07:14
Bandman614	balz: here's the google search I was running	07:14
Bandman614	http://tinyurl.com/5f34pd	07:14
reqqit	I am using the livecd to access my home folder and backup files	07:14
balz	could the fact that it's a WPA2 network matter?	07:14
Bandman614	the wireless cards supported? I've never had problems with an intel chip	07:14
reqqit	some give me permission errors - even a sudo nautilus - can I tell nautilus I want to access these files, or somehow 'login' to access them?	07:14
Bandman614	I'm running this one now: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)	07:15
balz	Bandman614. at this point i'm willing to dish out some buckage. i'll look into that one. it was just plug n pleasure?	07:15
^P[ubuntu]^	i'll have to worry about the folder tomorrow after work	07:15
bobertdos	jahnkeanater: First, in order to save yourself migraines, purge your system of gnash. Now, do you have all the repos active?	07:15
^P[ubuntu]^	cause time for bed	07:15
^P[ubuntu]^	bye	07:15
Niche	What is an Option Argument in Unix?	07:15
Derath	Quick question about dist-upgrade issues?	07:15
Bandman614	this was built into the dell laptop I'm on, but other similar intel chips should be painless	07:16
magnetron	!gksudo \| reqqit	07:16
ubottu	reqqit: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)	07:16
Vladimir	just trying to see if anyone knows about the broadcom chip?	07:16
ph0rensic	Derath: Shoot it brah	07:16
unhu	I just upgraded to Hardy Heron and had to restart due to a freezup. But I got an error about GDM user	07:16
JUM	HALLO	07:16
reqqit	I'll try that magnetron	07:16
Bandman614	just go to a place with a decent return policy	07:16
jussi01	!bcm43xx \| Vladimir	07:16
ubottu	Vladimir: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx	07:16
unhu	I have been using Ubuntu for months but have no idea what to do.	07:16
ph0rensic	bobertdos: so any significance to the 1 in chainload +1 ??	07:16
Bandman614	g'night	07:16
unhu	and I ma stuck in terminal only	07:16
balz	sounds good. night man	07:16
chalcedony	we adjusted the screen resolution and then made some changes to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and now it has NO video at all! what to do?	07:16
Derath	k, trying to go 7.10 -> 8.04, I've cleaned out /var/log, trash, etc and still need 80M	07:16
unhu	I have text based browsing, nothing more	07:17
Vladimir	danke	07:17
Derath	What other /var folder can I kill?	07:17
unhu	any help with a GDM error?	07:17
unhu	anyone?	07:17
jussi01	Derath: try sudo apt-get clean	07:17
Derath	jussi: tried that already	07:18
jussi01	!anyone \| unhu	07:18
ubottu	unhu: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	07:18
ePax	how do i install vboxdrv on Hardy. I have installed virtualbox-ose 1.5.6?	07:18
unhu	jussi01, sorry about that	07:18
ph0rensic	chalcedony: Did you try the dokg command?	07:18
bobertdos	ph0rensic: I've always assumed that's best described as an "offset" as in, "The Windows bootloader ,is the second (Linux being the first) link in the chain."	07:18
Vladimir	hmm	07:18
chalcedony	ph0rensic: what's that?	07:18
Vladimir	okay, so my wireless card is natively supported	07:18
Vladimir	but i still can't get online	07:18
Rajec	guys does ubuntu become slower after using it for several months ?	07:18
=== seyo is now known as meopy_gulz
Vladimir	only if you're looking at a lot of porn :p	07:19
unhu	I am recieving this error 'The GDM user 'gdm' does not exist. Please correct GDM configuration and resolve GDM.	07:19
jussi01	!ohmy \| Vladimir	07:19
ubottu	Vladimir: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	07:19
ph0rensic	chalcedony: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can help you reconfigure your X display if you totally jack it up	07:19
chalcedony	Oh!	07:19
chalcedony	except we can't see anythign to tell	07:20
Rajec	Vladimir :)	07:20
ph0rensic	You don't get any text on screne	07:20
chalcedony	i suspect what i need is ssh ph0rensic and then more	07:20
ph0rensic	screen**	07:20
Rajec	jussi01: this is catolic channel ?:)	07:20
jussi01	Rajec: no, but it is "g" rated ;)	07:20
ph0rensic	chalcedony: When you boot it just blank or what?	07:20
chalcedony	Rajec: it's everybody related to Ubuntu	07:21
ph0rensic	chalcedony: is this a local pc?? or your remoting in?	07:21
chalcedony	ph0rensic: we have a lan .. i'm here on my desktop, we have a laptop in there and his box	07:21
ph0rensic	Ok but which pc is not giving display?	07:22
=== slaytani1 is now known as slaytanic
chalcedony	ph0rensic: last time we restarted it it had red.. and a lot of little red and white lines.. he restarted again and now its black	07:22
Rajec	jussi01, chalcedony: hh ok ;) May I ask you for sharing your exprience of ubuntu? I am courious if its become slower after some time of using it.	07:22
ph0rensic	chalcedony: ok so this is a pc displayed locally then	07:22
=== Kwitschibo_ is now known as Kwitschibo
chalcedony	ph0rensic: my husband's new desktop computer	07:22
chalcedony	Rajec: do top and see if you are using too much ram	07:23
clarenc1	How to use Ubuntu Recovery mode？	07:23
Vladimir	i'm about to trash this CPU	07:23
ph0rensic	chalcedony: ok ... how about when it goes through boot up do you see the bios entries etc?	07:23
chalcedony	ph0rensic: no .. freaked me out	07:23
Vladimir	everything i've read and heard suggests that the wireless card works	07:23
Vladimir	but it doesn't	07:23
Derath	Are there any other folders in /var that would be safe to delete for dist-upgrade? I need roughly 81M more space according to update-manager.	07:23
Vladimir	does Ubuntu have a problem with WPA2 encrypted networks?	07:23
chalcedony	Vladimir: if it's Hardy .. you have a challenge	07:24
ph0rensic	chalcedony: So you dont get any readable display at all? not even the bios boot screen or anything	07:24
Vladimir	indeed it is	07:24
chalcedony	ph0rensic: it didn't .. really no	07:24
genii	Anyone tried an ATI 4870 on ubuntu yet? I'm curious. I have now an 8800GTS which works fine, but this box dual-boots to XP Pro 64bit for gaming (COD4, Crysis) and toying with a card swap	07:24
Vladimir	the only reason this computer exists is to go online	07:24
ph0rensic	chalcedony: Do you have the livecd?	07:24
macGerhard	hi. I was upgrading Gutsy to Hardy, it stalled at "Reloading system cache" (or something similar). I've done a CTRL+C, now I can't restart the upgrade process. :(	07:24
chalcedony	ph0rensic: it worked fine the time before those but i messed with the .conf and hit control alt backspace (dummy)	07:24
chalcedony	it was flickery	07:24
Jordan_U	macGerhard: Try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"	07:25
chalcedony	ph0rensic: my son did this install remotely.. we have been having a horrible time trying to get it to load from the 8.4 cd.	07:25
macGerhard	Jordan_U: OK, it restarted - phew. But it's at the same point where it was last time: * Starting kernel log daemon...	07:26
macGerhard	how long should that take?	07:26
Jordan_U	macGerhard: I don't know	07:27
ph0rensic	chalcedony: Ok i see... well you need to reconfigure your xserver settings .. does this pc have onboard gfx or a seperate card?	07:27
macGerhard	ok, because yesterday I've stopped it after about 10'-15'. Should it take THAT long?	07:27
ph0rensic	Jordan_U: Is there a command to load ubuntu in a console rather than a gnome session?	07:27
ph0rensic	chalcedony: Also is this from a wubi install or was this a full system install?	07:28
Jordan_U	ph0rensic: Yes, you can get to a tty with ctrl+alt+F1 and stop GDM / X with "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop"	07:28
Jordan_U	macGerhard: I am pretty sure that it shouldn't	07:29
ph0rensic	Jordan_U: Sorry I meant during boot time	07:29
Zelbinian	Quick question - does anyone know how to give VirtualBox USB access to Ubuntu?	07:29
=== nate_ is now known as C0L7
Zelbinian	If not I can go ask in the vbox chat	07:29
macGerhard	Jordan_U: ok. is there a way to stop this upgrade and rollback to Gutsy?	07:29
Jordan_U	ph0rensic: Recovery mode, but that also doesn't start networking and other things as well	07:30
cheeky	is there a document on how to set up torrent clients for faster downloads?	07:30
Jordan_U	macGerhard: No	07:30
Derath	Zelbinian, Grab the non-free version from VB's website	07:30
C0L7	I just set up a dual boot with xp. I need to sync my ipod with itunes from XP, (i really dont like the music players for linux) anyhow...I need to be able to access my music folder in ubuntu from xp. any advice	07:30
Derath	Zelbinian, Basically the non OSE version	07:30
chalcedony	ph0rensic: it's because this is GIGABYTE GA-MA69GM-S2H with an ATI card and this monitor: http://sydney.gumtree.com.au/c-Stuff-for-Sale-computers-software-Gateway-VX900-19-inch-Monitor-W0QQAdIdZ67326870	07:30
RickZilla	C0L7: Songbird might be an option for you at some point...it's not quite iTunes yet, but it's getting there	07:30
Zelbinian	Only the non-free one grants USB access?	07:30
macGerhard	Jordan_U: crap. ok, now I've got a fail. Let's see the log.	07:30
chalcedony	ph0rensic the ATI is onboard graphics	07:31
Jordan_U	macGerhard: It gave you an error?	07:31
ph0rensic	Jordan_U: Ok, without editing the boot.lst how can you view the boot menu to select recovery mode	07:31
macGerhard	Jordan_U: just fail!!	07:31
Derath	Zelbinian, Yep, I've got it installed on another of my systems, and the non-free (as in free-speech) is the only one with usb support	07:31
C0L7	well until then any solutions on how to make my "music" folder in ubuntu the root for my itunes, in xp?	07:31
Jordan_U	ph0rensic: Hit escape when you see grub on the screen	07:31
macGerhard	Jordan_U: Setting up klogd (1.5-1ubuntu1) ...	07:31
macGerhard	* Stopping kernel log daemon...	07:31
macGerhard	...done.	07:31
macGerhard	* Starting kernel log daemon...	07:31
macGerhard	...fail!	07:31
FloodBot1	macGerhard: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:31
ph0rensic	chalcedony: ATI ... figures...ok ok Im just an nvidia fan .. what did you change in xorg?	07:31
Zelbinian	. . . well, that does me no good.	07:31
Derath	Zelbinian, It's still free as in no cost	07:32
Jordan_U	macGerhard: Try booting into a previous kernel and trying again	07:32
nnull	my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?	07:32
Derath	Zelbinian, You just don't have the source code	07:32
valentinex	Hello after updates my installers etc not working :((	07:32
macGerhard	Jordan_U: hmmm. how do I do that?	07:32
Zelbinian	Ah.	07:32
ph0rensic	Jordan_U: Im trying to help chalcedony but she says she cannot get any display at all, so I was going to guide her through dpkg-reconfigure xserv...	07:32
Zelbinian	I wonder which version I have installed . . . lemme check.	07:32
macGerhard	Jordan_U: this is a server btw where I have only SSH access...	07:32
Derath	Zelbinian, Enjoy VB, I know I do! :)	07:32
=== UUd is now known as magic
Jordan_U	ph0rensic: Tell him to boot into recovery mode from grub and try the "fix X" menu item	07:33
chalcedony	Identifier "Default Screen"	07:33
chalcedony	Device "Generic Video Card"	07:33
chalcedony	Monitor "Gateway-VX900"	07:33
chalcedony	DefaultDepth 24	07:33
chalcedony	SubSection "Display"	07:33
FloodBot1	chalcedony: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:33
Zelbinian	I have 1.6.4 (and yes, it's awesome) from the Sun website. Is that the one or do I need to download something else?	07:33
chalcedony	changed the 24 to 16	07:33
nnull	my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?	07:33
Derath	Zelbinian, One sec	07:34
ph0rensic	chalcedony: Oh, why would you want to do that	07:34
maxua	anyone knows why "ssh host sudo something" still asks a password? interactive shells do not (added NOPASSWD to sudoers)	07:34
chalcedony	ph0rensic: my friend said to	07:34
valentinex	Hello after updates my installers etc not working :(( have I lost my ubuntu?	07:34
chalcedony	what we needed to chage was from 60 HZ to 75 .. i didn't see a setting for that and exited.	07:34
ph0rensic	chalcedony: Was your display not looking right or something?	07:34
Derath	Zelbinian, Their website shows a 2.0 version, might have some new goodies	07:35
ph0rensic	chalcedony: Can you try to reboot the computer and press escape when the grub menu usually loads and boot to a recovery console (or chose a fix X option)	07:35
pun_jiwan	hi	07:35
chalcedony	ph0rensic: the standard setup that comes with Hardy FLICKERS i get sick looking at it	07:35
Zelbinian	sigh I'm never getting to bed tonight, am I? lol	07:35
macGerhard	Jordan_U: would it be a good call to have the server re-installed from image?	07:36
nnull	my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?	07:36
Zelbinian	Upgrading doesn't destroy any current VM's right?	07:36
matiu	What's the command to link a mod-available into mods-enabled (apache2) ?	07:36
Jordan_U	macGerhard: OK, edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and change "default 0" to "default 3" and reboot, but be careful if there is no way for you to get physical access	07:36
ph0rensic	chalcedony: I think you want to chance the sync rate not the default depth	07:36
chalcedony	ph0rensic: ok	07:36
Derath	Zelbinian, You'll get in bed soon, I promise, unless you start playing :) And no, upgrades will not hurt the vms	07:36
chalcedony	i'll have to try that when we get that far	07:36
chalcedony	if	07:36
Derath	Zelbinian, I've done that one as well	07:36
macGerhard	Jordan_U: before I do that, I'm running top, init seems to be using 100% of the CPU..	07:37
chalcedony	ph0rensic: if i remember right on that one it's more likc control f2 or f4 ?	07:37
nnull	my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?	07:37
ph0rensic	chalcedony: not to go to cmos .. we want grub boot menu options	07:38
Zelbinian	Ok, sweet. I just want to fill up my new Zune before I go to the freakin' gym tomorrow. Is that too much to ask? lol	07:38
chalcedony	ph0rensic: i'll go try restarting and maybe esc will make it visible .. wish me luck	07:38
Derath	Zelbinian, Should be up and running shortly after the download :) I think my last VB upgrade took about 7 minutes total including download time	07:38
ph0rensic	chalcedony: GKL	07:39
macGerhard	Jordan_U: I can't seem to find grub. this is a VM btw...	07:39
chalcedony	ty	07:39
valentinex	when I try to install anything it do nothing just silence :(( >>Hello after updates my installers etc not working	07:39
nnull	my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?	07:39
Zelbinian	"Delete old modules" hmm . . . that is very cryptically worded, Sun Microsystems. Be ashamed.	07:39
Jordan_U	macGerhard: Shouldn't matter that it's a VM, "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"	07:39
pingveno	Is there a particular way I should install Python egg files that works with the /usr/share/pyshared file layout?	07:39
Zelbinian	But thanks Derath	07:40
Derath	Zelbinian, No problem! and enjoy	07:40
RickZilla	Dang, my heartburn has really flared up this evening	07:40
Zelbinian	K, it still doesn't see my USB devices lol	07:40
valentinex	Help me ...... too waiting :)	07:41
nnull	my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?	07:41
Derath	Zelbinian, In the settings area (vm must be turned off) check to see if there's a check box for usb support	07:41
valentinex	nnull: :D	07:41
Zelbinian	Yeah, there's a checkbox for USB support and 2.0 support.	07:41
macvr	hi all......has any1 got the Texas 5in1 card reader to work in hardy?	07:41
Jordan_U	valentinex: Did you just upgrade from gutsy to hardy?	07:41
Zelbinian	But don't you have to add the devices to the filters list?	07:42
valentinex	Jordan_U: hardy	07:42
nnull	hihi valentinex	07:42
clarence	hello	07:42
Jordan_U	valentinex: Is that a yes or a no ? :)	07:42
valentinex	Jordan_U: I was at harday before	07:42
Zelbinian	The help file also says something about permission to access the Linux USB controller.	07:42
RickZilla	Ok kids, 3rd download tonight is imaged to the cd...here goes nothing.	07:42
Jordan_U	valentinex: Is there any output from "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?	07:43
livingdaylight_	Good people of Ubuntuland, i can not play any of my music or movie files. Totem and Mplayer come up when i click on a media file, but nothing happens	07:43
valentinex	Jordan_U: I don't know much am new :-s I think I was at hardy and just got updates on existing hardy	07:43
valentinex	Jordan_U: I don't know about that output :-s	07:43
clarence	how to edit /etc/modprobe.d of the black list?	07:44
C0L7	anybody. ideas. just need to be able to read/write files to linux partition from xp	07:44
Jordan_U	valentinex: Please open a terminal ( Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal ) and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and use the pastebin service to paste the output ( if any )	07:44
RickZilla	Sweeeeeet...it's working, so far	07:44
clarence	in last time, someone told me can use this way, but when I find out, that's a txt file	07:45
magnetron	C0L7, in fact that would be a windows support question, but i'll give you some hints; you need to download some extra software for windows that supports ext2 or ext3	07:45
Jordan_U	macGerhard: Did you get the menu.lst edited OK ?	07:45
SaraSmith	ph0rensic i'm chalcedony on the laptop. i hit esc and up to a point it DID have things i could see and read.. but not now.	07:45
error404notfound	I have install trac using easy install, I can't seem to find trac.conf	07:45
nnull	hihi valentinex	07:46
livingdaylight_	magnetron, can you help me with an Ubuntu support question :p	07:46
nnull	my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?	07:46
ph0rensic	SaraSmith: What did they say?	07:46
magnetron	just ask, livingdaylight_	07:46
livingdaylight_	i can not play any of my music or movie files. Totem and Mplayer come up when i click on a media file, but nothing happens	07:46
macvr	hi all......has any1 got the Texas 5in1 card reader to work in hardy?	07:46
nnull	livingdaylight_, its because there are aliens in your pc :O	07:47
macGerhard	Jordan_U: ok, the file isn't there and locate cannot find menu.lst	07:47
macGerhard	I have to go now, but will catch up later	07:47
livingdaylight_	nnull, you may be right	07:47
SaraSmith	ph0rensic i don't remember very well.. maybe i try it again ? is there something I should be looking for?	07:47
Jordan_U	macGerhard: Well that makes absolutely no sense :)	07:47
valentinex	Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45654/	07:47
ph0rensic	SaraSmith: Well if it is the right menu you want to look for recovery mode and select that boot option	07:48
livingdaylight_	nnull, i thought one didn't have to worry about aliens in linux based os	07:48
nnull	livingdaylight_, and i thought it was stable :s	07:48
Jordan_U	valentinex: And what happens when you try to install software?	07:48
SaraSmith	ph0rensic i'll try again but i did't see it	07:48
ph0rensic	SaraSmith: if you are at the right menu it usually will wait for 10 seconds and then automatically choose the default menu item unless you arrow down	07:48
macGerhard	Jordan_U: well, /boot is empty...	07:48
ph0rensic	SaraSmith: Ok just tell me what u see	07:48
macGerhard	Jordan_U: so no trace of that file	07:48
=== livingdaylight_ is now known as kieko
macGerhard	Jordan_U: this is a VM running under virtuozzo	07:49
kieko	i can not play any of my music or movie files. Totem and Mplayer come up when i click on a media file, but nothing happens	07:49
macGerhard	Jordan_U: cheers for your help mate, I'll come back later ;)	07:49
C0L7	i have tried 2+ programs that is not working	07:49
valentinex	Jordan_U: EXample when I open a .deb package it opens a box then I click on install package box disappears but nothing happens :-s	07:49
Jordan_U	macGerhard: np	07:49
Jordan_U	valentinex: What if you use "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/whatever.deb" ?	07:50
* ph0rensic hifives bazhang		07:50
adiction	Hello to all!!	07:50
* smmagic hi-5s ph0rensic for the hell of it		07:50
* ph0rensic jumps up and down for joy cause he feels like part of the team!		07:50
adiction	Who is ubuntu channel in spanish?	07:50
adiction	please??	07:51
jussi01	!es	07:51
ph0rensic	!es	07:51
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	07:51
karname	hello , i need ebook about remastering , can you give me ?	07:51
nnull	kay	07:51
smmagic	Now thats style, MS doesn't give you that	07:51
adiction	thank you	07:51
adiction	see later	07:51
ph0rensic	YW	07:51
clarence	Could someone help me?	07:51
valentinex	Jordan_U: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/whatever.deb its long :-s and for every package I should use this? :(( why my main just double click work not fine	07:51
ph0rensic	!ask clarence	07:51
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ask clarence	07:51
valentinex	Jordan_U: now what is path and to in this command "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/whatever.deb"	07:52
kieko	jussi01, lol	07:53
Jordan_U	valentinex: Where is the .deb file saved ?	07:53
nameless	et	07:53
valentinex	Jordan_U: at desktop	07:53
kieko	i can not play any of my music or movie files. Totem and Mplayer come up when i click on a media file, but nothing happens	07:53
ph0rensic	Back for more RickZilla	07:53
Jordan_U	valentinex: Do you only have that one .deb file on the desktop?	07:53
valentinex	Jordan_U: many I have many	07:54
RickZilla	Hi again gang....my third attempt at a download tonight has resulted in this: I get the Ubuntu splash screen with the status bar that goes back and forth, then it freezes...is it common to have to attempt multiple downloads before you get a clean one?	07:54
Jordan_U	valentinex: Do you want to install all of them?	07:54
valentinex	Jordan_U: no just one at this time	07:54
RickZilla	Now it's going through a big error list	07:54
RickZilla	%&(@%	07:54
Jordan_U	valentinex: And out of curiosity why so many .debs, do you know about synaptic?	07:55
adiction	I need to help with JSP in ubuntu	07:55
valentinex	Jordan_U: I only know synaptic is a installer :D	07:55
patrck	im getting no sound from youtube	07:56
Jordan_U	valentinex: I mean that for almost all software you don't need to download the .debs yourself because synaptic will take care of that for you	07:56
cafenet8	Cewek cantiQ	07:56
valentinex	Jordan_U: but that don't have games :D and the facebook plugin for pidgin	07:57
RickZilla	Should it take me multiple times to get a clean download?	07:57
kieko	komm schon, kann mir nicht jemand helfen?	07:57
Jordan_U	valentinex: Just run "sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/name_of_file.deb" To install a single .deb file on your desktop ( replace name_of_file.deb with the name of the file, you can use tab completion )	07:57
kieko	ist jemand da?	07:59
waan	I've just upgraded gutsy to hardy heron, and my wireless adapter has dissapeard. It still shows in the hardware list but not in networks or restricted drivers where it used to be. Any ideas?	07:59
kieko	i can not play any of my music or movie files. Totem and Mplayer come up when i click on a media file, but nothing happens	07:59
waan	kieko: does it ask you to install any codecs?	08:00
Jordan_U	waan: Does System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers offer to install the drivers?	08:00
kieko	waan, no	08:00
waan	Jordan_U: nope, it used to be activated there but now its gone	08:00
waan	kieko: have you tried another player to see what happens?	08:00
Jordan_U	waan: What chipset?	08:00
kieko	i installed ubuntu restriced, so all the codecs are there	08:00
Zelbinian	How can I tell if Ubuntu is detecting a USB device?	08:00
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waan	Jordan_U: I can't remember of the top of my head, but it used AirForce One (Broadcom something)	08:01
Jordan_U	Zelbinian: "lsusb" What type of device though?	08:01
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kieko	waan, i never have aproblem with Totem before playing either audio or video codec, but just for the hell of it i also tried to open .avi with Mplayer same result	08:01
waan	kieko: try mplayer maybe	08:01
Zelbinian	A Zune. Yes, I know, it's not supposed to be able to interface with it directly. I just want it to be able to see it so that my VM can see it.	08:01
waan	kieko: hmm whats weird	08:01
kieko	waan, its not the players	08:01
nnull	my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?	08:01
Jordan_U	waan: Ok, try installing the "b43-fwcutter" package and let it download and extract the firmware automatically when it asks	08:02
Zelbinian	Yeah, Ubuntu sees the device. VirtualBox does not.	08:02
Zelbinian	sigh	08:02
kieko	waan, i agree its weird. That's why everyone here is keeping a wide berth from this problem... easier to support windows questions than this one	08:02
waan	Jordan_U: thats the problem I have no internet access	08:02
Jordan_U	Zelbinian: Did you add a virtual USB hub to your guest VM ?	08:02
Zelbinian	I'm pretty sure I did.	08:03
waan	kieko: does mplayer give you any output when run in the console?	08:03
Zelbinian	I followed steps someone linked to me here: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-install-virtualbox-in-hardy-heron.html	08:03
waan	Jordan_U: do you think the update my had removed the restricted driver for the b43 broadcom chipset?	08:04
Zelbinian	But I admit I'm not sure if I'm enabling USB support in the VB gui correctly	08:04
Rajec	guys :) http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/09/are-linux-programmers-getting-too-fat/	08:04
kieko	waan, how does one do that?	08:04
waan	kieko: open a terminal, then type mplayer "filename"	08:04
nnull	my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?	08:04
Jordan_U	waan: No, I think that the newer drivers need newer firmware	08:05
kieko	waan, just the filename? or withpath?	08:05
Jordan_U	waan: The drivers are open source BTW, it's just the firmware that's proprietary	08:05
waan	kieko: the whole path and filename	08:05
C0L7	they sent me over here.	08:06
C0L7	something about set grub to chain the xp bootloader?	08:06
waan	Jordan_U: ok i'll try that package you suggested and see if it reappears	08:06
Jordan_U	waan: I thought you couldn't connect to the internet?	08:07
valentinex	How to unstall KDE and switch default graphics to gnome?	08:07
waan	Jordan_U: i'll move it to a hardline	08:07
kieko	waan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/45663/ as i said, nothing happens. This is the output, which i can't decipher, maybe it tells you something?	08:08
Zelbinian	Ok, lsusb lists my devices, but VBoxManager list usbhost doesn't list anything.	08:09
Zelbinian	That seems to be a problem.	08:09
ChuanQi	hi all	08:09
ChuanQi	anyone use on board RAID 1 (mirror)?	08:10
waan	kieko: do you get a black window with any sound>	08:10
kieko	waan, a black window yes. Why would there be any sound? No, no sound, nada	08:10
smmagic	hey guys, does the GRUB menu end up being scrollable? Mine gets bigger with each kernel update	08:10
Jordan_U	smmagic: Yes it does	08:11
smmagic	Can I remove the entries I don't need?	08:11
smmagic	Like the older kernels.	08:11
kieko	waan, i am not gettiing any sound on audio files, nor any visual or sound on .avi files either; both with Totem and with Mplayer when i tried	08:11
Jordan_U	smmagic: Yes, just remove the older kernel packages	08:11
smmagic	From the terminal?	08:11
valentinex	Jordan_U: its also not opening my synaptic package manager	08:11
Jordan_U	valentinex: It won't open synaptic as synaptic uses dpkg and not the other way around	08:12
valentinex	synaptic package mangar, update manger and installers not working :-s all opens when I click them to do something they get close.	08:13
waan	kieko: when did the problem start?	08:13
smmagic	Jordan_U, Do I just remove the kernels from the terminal or the entries from grub?	08:13
Jordan_U	smmagic: Remove them using apt / synaptic	08:14
kieko	waan, its a fresh install of Ubuntu. I only just figured it out when i tried to play one of my audio files today in 'Music'	08:14
Jordan_U	kieko: Do any sounds play?	08:14
valentinex	I am at dualboot time for me to reinstall ubuntu :-s	08:14
smmagic	Jordan_U, Do you know the name of the 3 last kernels?	08:14
kieko	waan, i spent yesterday just trying to configure nvidia with my tv screen. And youtube and everything online was working, so i prsumed all was good	08:14
SaraSmith	ph0rensic? seems to have left. I have it in a Recovery menu. choices are: resume resume normal mode, dpkg Repair broken packages, root Drop to root shell prompt, xfix Try to fix Xserver... problem was that i changed the x conf and it suddenly had a completely black screen after it booted. so.. what to click to make it better?	08:15
kieko	Jordan_U, yes, as i was just saying, youtube etc - finie	08:15
waan	try a different video output driver, use "mplayer -vo help" to see a list	08:15
cpro	hello everybody - goodmorning from France	08:15
waan	kieko: try a different video output driver, use "mplayer -vo help" to see a list	08:15
SaraSmith	the basic Hardy setup doesn't work very well with this ATI card and monitor... it flickers.	08:15
valentinex	cpro: welcome	08:16
waan	kieko: try the gl/gl2 if you have it	08:16
kieko	waan, err... that is beyond me	08:16
cpro	is there anyone who knows about WINE, I mean the windows emulator?	08:16
waan	kieko: as for sound I have no idea sorry, do you have a usb headphones or anything else plugged in?	08:16
Jordan_U	!anyone \| cpro	08:17
ubottu	cpro: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	08:17
kieko	waan, no, lol. Wouldn't it be great if it was something simple like that	08:17
valentinex	Jordan_U: your brain is made of what all commands in your brain saved >:)	08:17
waan	kieko: well try "mplayer -vo gl <filename>" just for the hell of it and see if you get any video	08:18
error404notfound	I am trying to install Remote Desktop (http://www.nongnu.org/grdesktop) from source, and on configure I get: checking for gtk+-2.0... configure: error: cannot find GTK+ 2.0!	08:18
error404notfound	I am using gutsy gibbon	08:18
cpro	well, I would like if there is a list of softwares running under WINE	08:18
waan	kieko: you might have two seperate problems or just one common one, such has being hooked up to your tv	08:18
valentinex	Jordan_U: Thank you for the help. :)	08:18
Jordan_U	kieko: Does the audio test in System -> Preferences -> Sound work ( I know youtube works but it may not be going through pulseaudio )	08:18
kieko	Last.fm also works	08:19
ph0rensic	blasted grub	08:19
kieko	waan, Unknown option on the command line: -gl	08:19
kieko	Error parsing option on the command line: -gl	08:19
waan	kieko: mplayer -vo gl <filename>	08:19
macvr		08:20
macvr	hi all......has any1 got the Texas 5in1 card reader to work in hardy?	08:20
ph0rensic	Jordan_U: If I reinstall windows on the same partition it is currently occupying, can I just reinstall GRUB via the live disk and be back to triplebooting? Or would I have to actually reinstall ubuntu?	08:20
kieko	waan, sorry, same	08:21
dooglus	waan: that reminds me. last time I booted, mplayer would fullscreen properly. this time, when I hit 'f', the picture doesn't get any bigger - it goes fullscreen, but same size, with huge black border.	08:21
macvr	ph0rensic: just have to reinstall grub	08:21
dooglus	waan: "[VO_XV] It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available." - but I didn't change anything. waah	08:21
Jordan_U	!boot \| ph0rensic ( First link )	08:21
ubottu	ph0rensic ( First link ): Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto	08:21
cpro	ubottu: well, apparently NOBODY has an answer to my question, thanx	08:22
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	08:22
Jordan_U	!grub \| ph0rensic Sorry :)	08:22
ubottu	ph0rensic Sorry :): grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	08:22
Jordan_U	!appdb \| cpro	08:22
ubottu	cpro: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org	08:22
asho79	I´m having trouble installing updates; update manager doesn´t download or install packages, it just reads package information	08:22
asho79	anyone any ideas?	08:22
waan	dooglus: no idea sorry,maybe try a different output driver "mplayer -vo help"	08:22
cpro	ubottu: what is a bot	08:22
ubottu	I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	08:22
waan	kieko: hmm I have no idea what the problem might be sorry	08:23
kieko	Jordan_U, i'm looking at Sound as you suggested. When i click on 'test' should i be getting sounds? coz nothing happens	08:23
kieko	waan, ok, well, you tried - thanks :)	08:23
Jordan_U	cpro: ubottu is a script that we use in this channel to give commonly needed messages / info	08:23
macvr	cpro: ubottu is an automated system... NOT HUMAN	08:23
kieko	waan, i have to wonder whether its being set up to to tv somehow; even though that doesn't make any sense	08:24
waan	kieko: that's what I'm thinking, the video is being output somewhere else other than your screen	08:24
Jordan_U	kieko: Yes you should, I bet that if you used -ao alsa in mlayer, or set everything to use alsa in the preferences there that it would work ( though you may want to just figure out why pulse isn't working )	08:24
cpro	ubottu: well, hello machine, how are you today ?	08:25
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	08:25
waan	kieko: yes try that	08:25
kieko	Jordan_U, but this just works out of the box norrmally?	08:25
Jordan_U	kieko: Yes	08:25
kieko	Jordan_U, how do i set everything to alsa?	08:25
Jordan_U	kieko: Change everything in those preferences from "auto" to "alsa"	08:25
waan	kieko: he means totem not mplayer	08:26
xess	I have an odd question. Is there any way to look at the firm ware of my MP3 player or at least get Linux to probe it and tell me what is in there?	08:26
kieko	waan, does Jordan_U mean change everything in System>Prefernce>Sound to 'Alsa' instead of Autodetect?	08:27
Jordan_U	kieko: Yes	08:27
kieko	Jordan_U, ok, i changed all the settings in 'Sound' to Alsa	08:27
Jordan_U	kieko: Or to change mplayer specifically use "mplayer -ao alsa <filename>"	08:27
CostaRicanQuaker	help, can i create some free space on my hard drive with g parted so i can install another operative system? currently i'm on ubuntu hardy and it's a single partition, my question is wether i can do this without having to get a partitioner cd and get out of the partition i'm on	08:28
Jordan_U	kieko: Try playing something now	08:28
jburd	When I enter a secured wireless network, network manager asks me for a network password. I input the password, but the password is never saved into the keyring. It also does not ask me whether "I should allow keyring access to this program".	08:28
kieko	Jordan_U, mplayer -ao alsa works lke magic	08:28
bcs\|postal	Anyone know why when I install the latest Nvidia drivers that I'm supposed to use according to their site why instead of loading in I just get a blinking white screen	08:28
jburd	What should I do to allow network manager to use the keyring?	08:28
Jordan_U	CostaRicanQuaker: Yes you can, the ubuntu liveCD comes with gparted	08:29
waan	kieko: thats good to hear, so just the video to work on now?	08:29
CostaRicanQuaker	i want to install pcbsd specifically	08:29
CostaRicanQuaker	Jordan_U, here's the deal, i've already a pretty nice set up set up	08:29
CostaRicanQuaker	i don't want ot have to reinstall ubuntu	08:29
CostaRicanQuaker	i want to just make some space from ubuntu	08:29
Jordan_U	CostaRicanQuaker: Gparted can do that	08:29
xintron	how can I search for a string in all files in a certain dir from the terminal?	08:30
kieko	Jordan_U, \| waan everything plays now :D	08:30
dooglus	xintron: grep string *	08:30
CostaRicanQuaker	i think it's already installed, how do i do that Jordan_U ?from within the partitioon	08:30
xintron	dooglus: thanks	08:30
CostaRicanQuaker	as in without logging out of ubuntu	08:30
waan	kieko: cool,it should also work in totem now	08:30
kieko	Jordan_U, why did you make me suffer so long and so much? you could have told me right away?! :)	08:30
bcs\|postal	Anyone know why my video after I try to install my Nvidia driver will just blink white once it loads in?	08:30
CostaRicanQuaker	just resize the size from ubuntu	08:30
kieko	waan, yes, indeed!	08:30
CostaRicanQuaker	to create some new space	08:30
dooglus	xintron: if the string has spaces, put it in quotes. if it has stuff like dots or stars, use grep -F "string" *	08:30
kieko	waan, i didn't know, all i had to do was set 'everything' in 'Sound' to Alsa!	08:30
Jordan_U	kieko: I didn't know what the problem was at first :) ( or maybe I'm just evil... )	08:31
* Jordan_U laughs miniacally		08:31
kieko	muahhahaahaa	08:31
waan	Jordan_U: why would the sound stop his video from playing too?	08:31
LGKeiz	lol.. you know theres like 1250 people in here and only like 4 people talk	08:31
LGKeiz	I never got that :P	08:31
kieko	waan, good question	08:31
wb	i want been a hack what i learn ?	08:31
Jordan_U	waan: pulseaudio makes sure that the audio and video stay in sync, I guess that means that if the audio doesn't start the video will just keep waiting for it to "catch up " but it never will	08:32
kieko	Jordan_U, that makes sense	08:33
waan	Jordan_U: yeah good call	08:33
Cosmo-san	hmm, where is the ignore enters and exits in Pidgin config... =/	08:33
CostaRicanQuaker	Jordan_U, how do i do it? i run gparted and then what?	08:33
jburd	So how does one get network-manager to remember wireless network passwords?	08:33
Flannel	Cosmo-san: right click the channel and it's in there... properies or something	08:33
waan	Jordan_U, kiekoL ok im off to try and fix my wireless card	08:33
Flannel	Cosmo-san: that is, right click the tab or something like that.	08:33
Jordan_U	waan: Good luck	08:33
bcs\|postal	Anyone know why my video after I try to install my Nvidia driver will just blink white once it loads in?	08:33
kieko	waan, please say sorry to the tv monitor :) I still wonder why pulseaudio doesn't work here	08:33
CostaRicanQuaker	Flannel: how do i free up space from ubuntu to install another OS later?	08:34
kieko	waan, k, thx agin, gl	08:34
Cosmo-san	right clicked pretty much everywhere. no option for that. ;)	08:34
hickop	hi, i have a problem with rhythmbox, it seams it cant load the jamendo library, any solution please ?	08:34
waan	kieko: np	08:34
Flannel	CostaRicanQuaker: What do you mean? You want to remove Ubuntu? or install somethign alongside or what?	08:34
wb	how can i don't use xchat join this room ?please tell me .thanks a lot	08:34
wat	Hello, Im installing ubuntu on my comp and I already have a linux distribution on t, but I want to reformat and delete old liniux etc... which partition do i chose? guided- resize scsi3(0,0,0), parition #3 (sda) and use freed space..... or the Guided-use entire disk, SCSI3(0,0,0) (sda) - 80.0GB ata etc etc	08:34
kieko	Jordan_U, agues, why bother trying to fix the pulseaudio problem when there is a simple solution like switching everything to Alsa?	08:35
wat	with the first one it says ubuntu 8.04.1 and 94% 62.8gb, so umm im uncertain here	08:35
CostaRicanQuaker	Flannel: i want to create free space from the unused space on my harddrive to install a different operative system withouthaving to reinstall ubuntu	08:35
Flannel	wat: Guided Use Entire disk. You don't care abut anything on the drive currently, right?	08:35
wat	no i do not	08:35
Jordan_U	kieko: Because pulseaudio has some awesome features, most people don't use / need them though	08:35
wat	okay thx :)	08:35
Cosmo-san	owait, #pidgin is on freenode. whee~	08:35
xintron	dooglus: If I want to search through all subdirs as well, how do I do that?	08:36
Flannel	CostaRicanQuaker: Use a liveCD (the Desktop CD works fine), and use gparted to shrink the Ubuntu partition	08:36
kieko	Jordan_U, do you think we could fix pulseaudio here?	08:36
CostaRicanQuaker	Flannel: do i have to download gparted and burn an image to a cd? i don't have my ubuntu cd with me	08:37
jburd	I'd like to add network-manager applet to the list of applications allowed to access the keyring.	08:37
CostaRicanQuaker	is there a way i can do it by just runing gparted from ubuntu Flannel?	08:37
dooglus	xintron: use the -r flag to grep: grep -F -r "my string" .	08:37
Jordan_U	kieko: It's hard to say without knowing what is causing the problem, and I personally wouldn't know where to start figuring that out. #puseaudio might though	08:37
Flannel	CostaRicanQuaker: No, you can't resize an ext3 partition while its in use.	08:37
wb	how can i don't use xchat join this room ?please tell me .thanks a lot	08:38
jburd	!gnome-keyring	08:38
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-keyring	08:38
kieko	Jordan_U, ok, thx... we'll just let it be as long as it works now	08:38
jburd	!keyring	08:38
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about keyring	08:38
kieko	Jordan_U, #pulseaudio may just refer me back to #ubuntu so.....	08:38
jburd	uhh	08:38
wb	how can i don't use xchat join this room ?please tell me .thanks a lot	08:38
d_dyer	hey,i need some help,When i try to install new applications i get a error,When i try to run dpkg --configure -a it says this "$ dpkg --configure -a	08:39
d_dyer	dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege" Can anyone help me out?	08:39
dooglus	d_dyer: stick a 'sudo ' in front of the command, then type your password if it asks for a password	08:40
jburd	d_dyer: Use sudo as a prefix to that command:	08:40
d_dyer	ok so sudu dpkg --configure -a Like that	08:40
DrkLordSauron	ultra-quick: will ubuntu 8.10 have better support for nvraid (fakeraid, etc.?) I've been pretty abused by the poor raid support so far :(	08:40
d_dyer	ok thanks	08:41
waan	Jordan_U, ok do I tick "fetch and extract firmware" ?	08:41
cpro	adios guys	08:43
d_dyer	ok it worked,Thanks guys,i have one more question,When a new version of ubuntu comes out how do i upgrade?	08:44
waan	d_dyer, just go to the update manager and select, update distribution	08:44
Jordan_U	waan: Yes	08:45
d_dyer	ok	08:45
davidfraser	I'm trying to get apt-pinning working in my /etc/apt/preferences file, but specifying Package: * seems to get ignored (pinning only gets applied if I put an actual package name there). Any hints or is this a bug?	08:46
Jordan_U	davidfraser: Is it expecting a regex rather than a glob? Try ".*"	08:46
kieko	waan, i don't recommend upgrading that way	08:47
Jordan_U	kieko: That is the official method	08:47
asho79	does anyone know why my update manager isn´t installing anything? There are updates to get but I can´t get them	08:47
waan	kieko, how do you upgrade? I've used it twice so far and I even had a powerout but it still worked :)	08:47
kieko	Jordan_U, always left me with a broken system. To be sure always install fresh	08:47
bcs\|postal	Anyone know why my video after I try to install my Nvidia driver will just blink white once it loads in?	08:48
davidfraser	Jordan_U: No, that doesn't help - the man page and all the docs say * as well	08:48
waan	kieko, that makes sense if you come from windows, but I trust ubuntu and it works great	08:48
Flannel	asho79: pastebin the output of this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	08:48
kieko	waan, ok, works for some, but i know many and certainly i speak for myself from experience that uupgrading hasn'tworked for me. Easier just to backup /home and do a fresh install	08:48
Flannel	kieko: You should look into a separate home partition	08:49
waan	kieko, yeah both work, depends on your situation	08:49
Jordan_U	bcs\|postal: Did you mwan to say log in?	08:49
kindofabuzz	anyone ever use gedit snippets plugin?	08:49
kieko	Flannel, that' s what i mean. I backup my /home	08:50
wat	What is GRUB?	08:50
kieko	Flannel, only thing i lose is configuration n stuff	08:50
kieko	!grub	08:50
ubottu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	08:50
Flannel	kieko: With a separate home partition, you don't need to back it up.	08:50
asho79	Flannel: that seems to be working, do you still want me to pastebin it?	08:51
wat	okay so grub is good, lol I heard a lot of people talking bad about grub was like shit i hae grub	08:51
wat	;)	08:51
kieko	Flannel, oh...	08:51
Flannel	kieko: Well, you still need to have backups, but you don't need to copy it to put it back after the install	08:51
Flannel	asho79: If its working, then no.	08:51
wat	is there a way to set it so that my linux will not need me to login everytime I restart my comp?	08:51
wat	so it will automatically login?	08:51
Flannel	wat: Yes. See the login screen setup	08:51
kieko	Flannel, you would just re-install Root (/) ?	08:52
wat	Flannel: where do I find this?	08:52
asho79	++Flanel	08:52
Cosmo-san	wat: look for it	08:52
asho79	thanks, tried to give you a beer	08:52
Flannel	kieko: yes, and then have it use the home partition for /home, but without reformatting it	08:52
Flannel	asho79: no problem	08:52
wat	lol im linux noob, where would I look? in system?	08:52
Flannel	wat: system > administration I believe.	08:52
wat	okay thx ;)	08:52
Flannel	wat: If not there, then preferences. But it really ought to be in admin	08:52
kieko	Flannel, k, thanks, i'll try that next time	08:53
Flannel	!separatehome \| kieko	08:53
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about separatehome	08:53
Flannel	hmmm	08:53
kieko	hehe	08:53
Jordan_U	wat: Yes, System -> Administration -> Login Window	08:53
Jordan_U	!home \| kieko	08:54
ubottu	kieko: Your home folder is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For mounting your home folder on a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome	08:54
Flannel	!separatehome \| kieko	08:54
waan	Jordan_U, ok package installed, no change to the system so far	08:54
Flannel	kieko: You can convert it to being on another partition without having to reinstall as well (see tha tlink)	08:54
wat	how do I update/install postgresql?	08:55
Jordan_U	waan: You need to reload the driver now that you have the firmware, try "sudo modprobe b43" ( or reboot )	08:55
Flannel	wat: install "postgresql"	08:55
wat	just type that? thats it?	08:56
waan	Jordan_U, reboot it is :)	08:56
wat	okay ;)	08:56
Jordan_U	wat: That with "sudo apt-get " in front of it :) ( or use synaptic for a GUI )	08:56
Flannel	!synaptic \| wat	08:56
ubottu	wat: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto	08:56
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Martiini	wat .. do you need help with something	08:58
wat	Martiini: yes and no, im complete linux noobie, and im trying to get a postgresql server setup to work on my localhost	08:59
wat	err localnetwork not localhoost	08:59
wat	so my windows pcs can connect to it	08:59
waan	Jordan_U, ok same thing after reboot. I tried modprobe b43, it says no module	09:03
waan	Jordan_U, however when modprobe -l grep 43, this shows up "/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko"	09:05
d_dyer	Hey i am wanting to know if there is a way to completly restore ubuntu to its orignal ways?	09:05
Jordan_U	waan: That's odd	09:05
waan	Jordan_U, another thing, when I run test hardware it shows up there with the other network devices	09:06
waan	Jordan_U, its almost like it's being omited from networks and iwconfig	09:07
d_dyer	can anyone help me>	09:07
d_dyer	?*	09:07
waan	d_dyer, I just reinstalled over the top, then updated to the latest version	09:07
d_dyer	oh okay	09:08
d_dyer	i didnt really want to do that but whatever	09:08
waan	d_dyer, reinstall from the original cd is probably the easiest/quickest way	09:08
d_dyer	ok	09:08
patrck	how do u spell	09:08
waan	d_dyer, there might be a way to "reset to factory defaults" but I haven't found it yet	09:08
patrck	cerlebery	09:08
d_dyer	Well Be Back Later	09:09
d_dyer	okay	09:09
patrck	celiberty	09:09
waan	patrck, dictionary.com	09:09
Cosmo-san	what?	09:12
Cosmo-san	celebrity?	09:12
Cosmo-san	celibacy?	09:13
Cosmo-san	honestly? honestly?	09:13
wat	how do i start my postgresQL service	09:13
wat	and how do i set it so it runs when computer turns on?	09:13
nnull	anyone tell me where in gconf-editor/anywhere i change the font of my tooltip text?	09:15
Jordan_U	waan: Just for the sake of trying, try "sudo modprobe bcm43xx"	09:15
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Jordan_U	waan: what is the output of "uname -r" ?	09:17
nnull	anyone tell me where in gconf-editor/anywhere i change the font of my tooltip text?	09:17
wat	how do i find out my IP address in ubuntu?	09:17
Jordan_U	wat: ifconfig	09:17
wat	i typed it and it didnt ddo anything :o	09:18
qiang_	ifconfig -a	09:18
Ahadiel	wat, local => ifconfig, external => http://whatismyip.com	09:18
nnull	how do i create a shortcut of a folder	09:19
wat	k how do i start my postgreSQL server then?	09:19
waan	Jordan_U, ok module seems to have loaded, kernel is 2.6.22-14-generic	09:19
nnull	how do i create a shortcut of a folder	09:19
nnull	!shortcuts	09:19
ubottu	Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts	09:19
nnull	!symbolic links	09:20
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about symbolic links	09:20
Cosmo-san	nnull: ctrl + M	09:20
nnull	lolk	09:20
nnull	Cosmo-san, that does nothing for me	09:20
waan	Jordan_U, I also restarted dbus, it seems to be in the network list now, I just need to reboot	09:20
Jordan_U	waan: Looks like you don't have hardy's kernel installed	09:20
nnull	oh actually it does	09:20
Jordan_U	waan: Try "sudo apt-get install linux"	09:20
Cosmo-san	what do you want? you click the folder, you press ctrl + m, you have link	09:20
waan	Jordan_U, really? that is super weird since I upgraded	09:20
Cosmo-san	voila	09:20
nnull	Cosmo-san, know where in gconf-editor/anywhere i change the font of my tooltip text?	09:21
rajec	Guys is there any normal video player for ubuntu? I tried VLC, mplayer and Movie player. All had problems when I want to skip across video.	09:21
Cosmo-san	ok, channel downtime. So I'm trying to get my firefox set up so I can use the fourth mouse button to go back a page, I believe it's default in Windows, but I don't know where to add it in Ubuntu. #firefox doesn't know, google isn't helpful.	09:21
Cosmo-san	the font of your tooltip text? is it important?~	09:21
nnull	Cosmo-san, yea	09:22
DosKey	I have a little challenge...	09:22
Niche	How would I go about getting those large program buttons on the desktop that I see on so many Ubuntu user's screenshots?	09:22
nnull	all other fonts changed but that one	09:22
waan	Jordan_U, ok it's going to install "linux-image linux-restricted-modules"	09:22
nnull	Cosmo-san, how do i find out why my pc locksup/freezes?	09:23
rajec	samp: :) I want to provide him something too and I believe that this article(or better blog which is not main! ) could help him	09:23
rajec	Guys is there any normal video player for ubuntu? I tried VLC, mplayer and Movie player. All had problems when I want to skip across video.	09:23
DosKey	I have no cd's to burn ubuntu onto, i want to enable a mount to a virtual drive which boots the ubuntu iso from windows before the bootloader boots? Anyone know a way?	09:23
Jordan_U	waan: Nothing else? ( if not then you may have the latest kernel installed but just aren't booting from it for some reason )	09:23
Cosmo-san	nnull: reformat. or try gnome-system-monitor	09:24
waan	Jordan_U, It just occured to me what the problem is	09:24
waan	Jordan_U, when I upgraded I accidentally clicked to leave the grub menu.lst instead of updating it	09:24
Jordan_U	DosKey: Ubuntu comes with a windows installer	09:24
Cosmo-san	or notice what program you are running every time it locks up and freezes	09:24
Jordan_U	waan: That would do it :)	09:24
Niche	How would I go about getting those large program buttons on the desktop that I see on so many Ubuntu user's screenshots?	09:25
nnull	Cosmo-san, the pc isnt under any strain it just does hard locks randomly, usually when ive got alot of text on the screen and im using dropdown menus	09:25
waan	Jordan_U, know how I can remake it with the autogenerator that the upgrade uses?	09:25
DosKey	For some reason wubi wasn't so successfull... Anyway, i don't want to emulate my Linux.	09:25
DosKey	So	09:26
DosKey	I have no cd's to burn ubuntu onto, i want to enable a mount to a virtual drive which boots the ubuntu iso from windows before the bootloader boots? Anyone know a way?	09:26
DosKey	You think it's plausable?	09:26
waan	Jordan_U, it's always human error, the os was fine the whole time, just my stupid mistake that I forgot about	09:26
Jordan_U	DosKey: It's possible, but probably not easy	09:26
Niche	#b How would I go about getting those large program buttons on the desktop that I see on so many Ubuntu user's screenshots?	09:27
HymnToLife	DosKey: just install from an USB drive, you surelt have one	09:27
Jordan_U	DosKey: Debian has such a feature that installs to a new partition @ http://goodbye-microsoft.com/	09:27
waan	Niche, just drag them from the applications menu	09:27
DosKey	That's a web-install link	09:27
Jordan_U	waan: First backup your current menu.lst	09:27
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DosKey	I am on wi-fi	09:27
HymnToLife	DosKey: or you have !wubi	09:27
waan	Niche, or are you referring to a docking type menu?	09:27
DosKey	Wubi doesn't work	09:28
Niche	I think the docking type?	09:28
DosKey	\|I don't want to emulate \|Linux	09:28
Niche	It's not default in ubuntu, I know you can drag programs to the top bar	09:28
DJones	DosKey: Maybe this will help, it suggests a way or installing from Windows https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows	09:28
Jordan_U	DosKey: Wubi is not emulation BTW	09:28
waan	Jordan_U, yep done	09:28
Niche	waan, sometimes the icons rotate when they drag their mouse over them too	09:28
DosKey	Your whole OS goes into a file on windows	09:28
Jordan_U	waan: Ok, try "sudo update-grub"	09:28
DosKey	I don't want that, i would just use a virtualisation server if i wanted that	09:29
waan	Niche, ahh yes I think I know what you mean, its a dock which I cant remember the name of. Similar to rocketdock for windows	09:29
waan	Jordan_U, ok it found the new kernel, i'll check the list out and then reboot	09:30
DosKey	DJones, thanks	09:30
Niche	waan, yep that's it, thanks!	09:30
DosKey	Just use UNetbootin	09:30
Jordan_U	waan: Good, not sure if it will automatically update itself from now on or not	09:31
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waan	Jordan_U, the operating system or the menu?	09:31
Jordan_U	waan: The menu	09:31
waan	Jordan_U, yeah it didn't update it at all	09:32
rajec	Guys is there any normal video player for gnome? I tried VLC, mplayer and Movie player. All had problems when I want to skip across video.	09:33
outbackwifi	rajec: xine	09:33
Jordan_U	waan: Try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub" and see if it gives you the option of weather or not to update the list again	09:33
kieko	hi,	09:34
kieko	Q: is there a quick way of getting a terminal up? like control+ t or something?	09:34
waan	Jordan_U, nope nothing. I'll just google for a bit and come back if I don't find the answer	09:35
rajec	oubackwifi: great I just tried it(gxine) and I get some segment error	09:35
mdkaneda55	hey, how can i run xmodmap and xbindkeys at startup in XFCE? i tried adding lines to /etc/rc.local, but apparently it's running it too early and being canceled out or something..	09:35
TimboUK	Is it ok to ask a quick, hopefully simple Q?	09:36
KillGuta	hello all :D	09:36
mdkaneda55	whats ur question, TimboUK?	09:37
KillGuta	I was wondering if I can use VM workstation for DX support for games :D	09:37
TimboUK	its about Wine, Im trying to work out how the thing works. Do I need a Windows installation on my machine for it to function? Or will it function just as happilly without one?	09:37
waan	Niche, you could try kiba-dock or avant window navigator	09:37
TimboUK	I dont want to dual boot anymore	09:37
TimboUK	and I could use the space windows is taking up.	09:37
KillGuta	you dont need windows so WINE can work	09:37
HymnToLife	mdkaneda55: make a shell script to run your commands and put it in ~/.config/autostart	09:37
mdkaneda55	VMWorkstation doesn't work too well w/ games, you can install Direct X and run simple games, but nothing too graphical.. i got some 2D Reflexive.com games to run great tho, =)	09:37
ushimitsudoki	TimboUK: you do not need windows for Wine.	09:38
TimboUK	thanks.	09:38
TimboUK	appreciated.	09:38
ePax	TimboUK: wine is simuletor for windows programs on linux. So you dont need to have windows on you comp.	09:38
KillGuta	damn...	09:38
rajec	When fast forwarding in vlc video displaying is screwed only audio works	09:38
mdkaneda55	HymnToLife: awesome! i looked in there, but there was a .desktop entry file, wasnt sure if a simple bash script would work in there	09:38
donkeyofdarkness	orly?	09:39
KillGuta	Anyone got TF2 working properly?	09:39
KillGuta	on linux?	09:39
rajec	*When fast forwarding in vlc video displaying is screwed only audio works. What to do about iut?	09:39
KleinerHa1	Hi, often when i want to delete my trash I delete just the icon in the panel. Can i remove the "Remove" Icon?	09:39
TimboUK	how would it deal with specific windows drivers that a package requires, for example DX coding, if windows is not present?	09:39
ushimitsudoki	KillGuta: I played TF2 in linux for while, but haven't in quite some time	09:39
KillGuta	because when I put it to the lowest resolution, settings it still works at ~10fps	09:39
donkeyofdarkness	wtf	09:39
donkeyofdarkness	don't use DX	09:40
ushimitsudoki	TimboUK: the whole purpose of wine is to NOT need windows. it re-implements the dlls that windows uses	09:40
KillGuta	and on windows it works ~60fps :(	09:40
kindofabuzz	KleinerHa1, deleting the icon won't delete your trash	09:40
rajec	I am starting be confessed that media in ubuntu sucks	09:40
ushimitsudoki	TimboUK: this is why it works better for some apps than others, because they may not have implemented a certain set of features	09:40
shankhs	rajec, media in ubuntu rox	09:40
donkeyofdarkness	media in ubuntu works better than wind0ze	09:41
ePax	TimboUK: As i said. Its a simulator. And it does not need windows att all. Allthough all things just want work with it. but you can allways have windows as virtual machine on your linux	09:41
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donkeyofdarkness	moar formats	09:41
TimboUK	thanks again. So far Wine has been 100% for me. I just didnt want to risk ruining it by removing Windows....Now I can!	09:41
shankhs	rajec,i agree wid donkeyofdarkness	09:41
waan	Jordan_U, ok I deleted the old menu.lst and update-grub generated a brand spanking new one, all fixed	09:41
KleinerHa1	kindofabuzz: That's it! I don't want to delete the icon! But i do sometimes. It's not a problem to recover it. But I want to set this icon permanent.	09:41
rajec	donkeyofdarkness, shankhs: yeah so tell me one player which will be able to skip across video without any problems ?	09:41
nnull	this channel is like a constant fragment of problems, so quite in fedora :s	09:41
outbackwifi	rajec: what is the format of the video?	09:41
Jordan_U	waan: And wireless?	09:41
rajec	outbackwifi: .mov	09:42
donkeyofdarkness	I've never had any problems after installing all codecs	09:42
mdkaneda55	rajec: mplayer fastforwards beautifully for me for all formats.. =)	09:42
donkeyofdarkness	I've only had problems with windows media files	09:42
rajec	donkeyofdarkness: maybe there is problem	09:42
shankhs	rajec, do u have vlc?	09:42
kindofabuzz	KleinerHa1, right click it and choose lock to panel. then to delete trach, right click and choose delete trash	09:42
master5o1	hi	09:42
donkeyofdarkness	I've seen .mov be a little buggy	09:42
waan	Jordan_U, i have to reboot with the new kernel and find out	09:42
outbackwifi	hi master5o1	09:42
donkeyofdarkness	I have an HD camera that records in that format	09:42
rajec	shankhs: yes and when I skip some part sound continue properly but video is screwed(i got black screen)	09:43
donkeyofdarkness	use a different format	09:43
outbackwifi	rajec: use theora	09:43
Jordan_U	waan: Please do, I am curious :)	09:43
shankhs	rajec, thats strange it never happened to me try amarok and see	09:43
donkeyofdarkness	I stay away from mov and wmv	09:43
rajec	mdkaneda55: when using mplayer I cannto skip by little chunks and sometime mplayer shutdown without any error	09:44
DosKey	lol? UNetbootin seems to have crashed...	09:44
shankhs	rajec, post this in vlc bug tracker site	09:45
donkeyofdarkness	you could also try xine	09:45
Kn_	join/ #ubuntu.de	09:45
rajec	shankhs: amarok is only for audio no?	09:45
piranesi	how can I set the opengl output in totem-gstreamer?	09:46
koshari	anyone know if virtualboxOSE 2 is backported?	09:46
donkeyofdarkness	xine also pwns	09:46
KillGuta	anyone have an idea how to get TF2 working properly?	09:46
outbackwifi	KillGuta: whats TF2	09:46
mdkaneda55	yup amarok for audio, but exaile is gtk equivilant, much faster in gnome	09:46
KillGuta	team fortress2 a game :D	09:46
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outbackwifi	oh ok	09:47
shankhs	rajec, i agree	09:47
bentob0x	what is the best light client computer to use with Ubuntu/Kubuntu?	09:48
bentob0x	something small that can be used as a kiosk	09:49
KleinerHa1	bentob0x: For Kiosk use xubuntu.	09:49
koshari	bentob0x look at the new atom based itx offerings	09:49
donkeyofdarkness	or fluxbox	09:49
KleinerHa1	bentob0x: I did already and it's awesome!	09:49
bentob0x	nice	09:50
outbackwifi	bentob0x: the asus eee desktop pc	09:50
Cosmo-san	TF2 is a Steam based FPS~ Steam and Ubuntu do not get along well, but gl!	09:50
bentob0x	but what about the hardware?	09:50
bentob0x	eee desktop pc	09:50
bentob0x	k going to check that	09:50
donkeyofdarkness	whatever is cheapest	09:50
bentob0x	any idea on Dell's side?	09:50
KleinerHa1	Xubuntu start's with 800 Mhz and 128 MB Ram	09:50
Cosmo-san	what was the command to autodetect new hardware? specifically finding my printer on the Lpt1 port? :D	09:50
rajec	whats command to list all running processes?	09:50
kindofabuzz	open arena is all you need =) and tc:e =)	09:50
donkeyofdarkness	Go to walmart	09:50
nathan	hi	09:50
nathan	haloooo	09:50
nathan	jj	09:50
donkeyofdarkness	walmart actually has a couple linux boxes on their website	09:51
donkeyofdarkness	cheap ones	09:51
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Ad0	huge channe	09:51
DJones	rajec: type "top" in a terminal window	09:51
KleinerHa1	I wanna start web design are there any good programms for it?	09:51
Ad0	l	09:51
KleinerHa1	Like Dreamweaver?	09:51
koshari	bentob0x http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/display/20080819193707_Intel_Unveils_Desktop_Motherboard_for_Nettops.html	09:51
donkeyofdarkness	KleinerHa1, kompozer	09:51
kindofabuzz	KleinerHa1, gedit	09:51
bentob0x	I just want to have some hardware that I would be sure not to have any problems with Xubuntu install/setup etc	09:51
donkeyofdarkness	bluefish	09:51
bentob0x	reading, thx koshari	09:51
donkeyofdarkness	kate	09:51
kindofabuzz	learn how first before you use an IDE	09:51
trucMuche	KleinerHa1, dreamweaver -> quanta+	09:51
KleinerHa1	Wow! Much programs :) COol, Thanks	09:52
shankhs	I have screwed my GUI and after lots of posting in ubuntu forum i realized that I have to reinstall it,is there any way to know the level of damage to the ubuntu linux kernel	09:52
donkeyofdarkness	dreamweaver runs in wine	09:52
wathek	hello all	09:52
trucMuche	donkeyofdarkness, :(	09:52
donkeyofdarkness	o_O	09:52
mdkaneda55	bentob0x: i built a cheap Athlon 64 3200+ setup off newegg for $180 that works great =) mini-atx board so u could get a small case to put it in..	09:53
trucMuche	is bad :p	09:53
J-_	shankhs: whatever you do, try to reconfigure xorg first before going to reinstall.	09:53
wathek	I've installed Ubntu Hardy Heron on a Toshiba Portege R100 but I cannot get a full screen graphic mode that computer has a Trident graphic card	09:53
J-_	!xorg \| shankhs	09:53
ubottu	shankhs: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto	09:53
shankhs	J-_, tried but since I dont have any idea of xorg so I couldnt do much	09:53
donkeyofdarkness	you can buy some tiny boxes from the damnsmalllinux website	09:53
Ad0	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916597 whelp	09:53
KleinerHa1	wathek: There's no problem without a solution!	09:53
donkeyofdarkness	they have no hard drives	09:54
donkeyofdarkness	just cfcards	09:54
waan	Jordan_U, Wireless is back to normal now. Thanks for your help. Also I get the added bonus of power management with the new kernel, my laptop now uses the dim/bright hotkeys and can hibernate. Ubuntu is awesome!!!	09:54
donkeyofdarkness	http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/Mini_ITX_Systems	09:54
Jordan_U	waan: np :)	09:54
waan	Jordan_U, also a blue wireless led shows which doesn't work in windows	09:55
mdkaneda55	bentob0x: board i used is ECS GeForce 7050M-M, it's cheap and perfect for a basic setup, really nice onboard video	09:55
shankhs	ubottu, let me try these things fisrdt	09:55
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	09:55
Jordan_U	waan: :)	09:55
shankhs	ubottu, I tried startx but no help	09:55
waan	Jordan_U, and it boots heaps quicker, ubuntu for the win	09:55
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	09:55
outbackwifi	bentob0x: http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=24&l2=165&l3=0&l4=0&model=2289&modelmenu=2	09:55
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co_goodboyfriend	rian_19	09:55
outbackwifi	shankhs: dont talk to ubottu; its a bot ;O	09:56
shankhs	kk	09:56
donkeyofdarkness	http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/Mini_ITX_Systems/533MHz_fanless_Mini_ITX_PC	09:57
Zeepo	hello	09:57
Zeepo	got prob here	09:58
outbackwifi	the eee box pc is only $353	09:59
donkeyofdarkness	orly?	09:59
outbackwifi	hi zeepo	09:59
Zeepo	hi	09:59
outbackwifi	whats the prob	09:59
Zeepo	does anyone know how to disable touchpad when mouse connected to laptop?	09:59
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outbackwifi	Zeepo: automatically or manually?	10:00
Zeepo	either one	10:00
ballzee	id like to beat to death the person that puts only two ram slots on a motherbord	10:00
Zeepo	but it would be better if when i connect my mouse to the laptop, then automatically my touchpad disabled	10:01
yaya	Hi guys,	10:01
yaya	A little question:	10:01
outbackwifi	Zeepo: check if this helps --> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/disable-synaptics-touchpad/	10:01
Cosmo-san	'spose I could ask here. I want a different color scheme for my Kdevelop, how do I import a theme and does anyone have a site to browse good schemes?	10:02
yaya	I want to buy a new computer and install Ubuntu 8.04 and compiz fusion on it. Can anyone let me know of hardware specs that work properly?	10:02
yaya	Thanks!	10:02
Jordan_U	Cosmo-san: KDE-look.org	10:03
Jordan_U	yaya: You could buy a Dell with Ubuntu pre-installed	10:03
donkeyofdarkness	buy a core 2 quad	10:03
Cosmo-san	danke. also, what is the command that stops the application I am running in the terminal from stealing the terminal window?	10:03
donkeyofdarkness	8GBs ram	10:03
donkeyofdarkness	geforce 9800	10:03
outbackwifi	yaya: check out the ubuntu HCL http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/	10:03
Jordan_U	Cosmo-san: <command> &	10:04
macv1		10:04
macv1	hi all......... is anyone able to use Texas 5in1 Card reader	10:04
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joaopinto	complexity, nohup command &	10:04
joaopinto	ops, was cosmo-kramer	10:04
joaopinto	erm, Cosmo-san	10:04
yaya	Thanks!	10:05
Cosmo-san	o_o	10:05
jp73107	in the ubuntu repository, is a package called kubuntu-artwork-kbfx... does anyone know what kbfx is?	10:05
Cosmo-san	nohup? or just use the ampersand after the command?	10:05
wathek	KleinerHa1, didn't work	10:05
yaya	donkeyofdarkness - can the 9800 run compiz properly? I heard that due to driver issues (or something) Compiz was unusable	10:05
jp73107	i've never heard of it and all i can get on google is crap from kde-look.org and extra themes and such, from the looks of it it looks like its some kind of emerald for kde but idk =/	10:05
Jordan_U	!info kbfx \| jp73107	10:05
ubottu	jp73107: kbfx (source: kbfx): an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.3.1-1 (hardy), package size 1718 kB, installed size 4108 kB	10:05
jp73107	thanks :)	10:05
jp73107	!info kbfx	10:05
jp73107	oh hehe :3	10:06
jp73107	alright sweet, good enough for me	10:06
jp73107	thanks Jordan_U	10:06
Jordan_U	jp73107: np	10:06
wathek	still can't get a full screen graphic mode with my Toshiba Portege R100 that has a Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XP4m32 graphic card	10:06
wathek	:'(	10:06
jp73107	:(	10:06
koshari	yaya nvidia or intel graphics would be my recomendation,	10:07
jp73107	i've always wanted a laptop. i was going to buy one of the new macbook pros, and install ubuntu on it	10:07
Cosmo-san	Jordan_U: the site gives me a text file for the scheme, to import it do I need to save it as a certain file type?	10:07
jp73107	but then i mentioned this to a friend who is an avid mac user who just about passed out when i mentioned the mac os would no longer be on the laptop	10:07
Jordan_U	Cosmo-san: I don't know, I don't use KDE. Try asking in #kubuntu	10:07
koshari	jp73107 unless you specificly want to dual boot with macOS i beleive you will be wasting money	10:08
jp73107	probably, the macbook pro was just for the hardware specs	10:08
Cosmo-san	screw it, gedit is fine	10:08
koshari	jp73107 well get an acer/dell/toshy with the same specs for %20 less	10:08
waan	Jordan_U, sorry to bother you again, but compiz is now not working. I've checked the desktop effects manager and they are all still enabled, any ideas?	10:09
jp73107	if only you could upgrade laptops as easy as you could upgrade desktops :(	10:09
yaya	Anyone has tried an nVidia 8600 card?	10:09
jp73107	i have an 8600GT on my box	10:09
jp73107	no problems with it	10:09
Jordan_U	waan: Can you pastebin the output of "compiz --replace" ?	10:09
koshari	yaya for compiz fusion even a 5*** nvidia card would more than suffice	10:09
jp73107	nforce 630i/7150 board	10:09
jp73107	compiz is pretty but i use vmware a lot, and it bogs everything down somewhat	10:10
koshari	jp73107 maybee its vmware dung the bogging, i use compiz and virtualbox no prob	10:10
jp73107	perhaps!	10:11
koshari	jp73107 and i only have a e2220 and a 6600Nvid	10:11
jp73107	i'm so used to vmware now though i'm not sure i could switch to virtualbox	10:11
waan	Jordan_U, xgl: not present, found ati driver, aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity	10:11
Jordan_U	waan: Does it say anything about it being a laptop?	10:12
jp73107	i suppose i can give it a try	10:12
waan	Jordan_U, yes. Found laptop using ati driver.	10:12
koshari	waan aaaahhh ati sucks with compiz	10:12
waan	koshari, it works fine for me	10:13
yaya	Thanks!	10:13
Jordan_U	waan: Ok, there are a lot of ATI laptops that are having problems ( X crashes completely ) when compiz is started, since they couldn't find a way to identify them and the bug was preventing people from being able to login at all they blacklisted all ATI laptops, but you can remove that blacklisting	10:13
yaya	jp73107 - I think I will get a 8600GT then.	10:13
yaya	I think 7xxx cards are hard to find nowadays...	10:14
jp73107	newegg.com	10:14
waan	Jordan_U, ok, I can always get into recovery mode to put the blacklist back if it has issues?	10:14
jp73107	i got mine (pci-e) for like, less than 100$?	10:14
donkeyofdarkness	there's some cheap 8800s now	10:14
koshari	yaya it doesnt matter the 8*** series are about $25USD	10:14
jp73107	i think it was only 100$+ because i got the 2 year extended warranty	10:14
Chousuke	compiz is the root source of stability problems on ubuntu	10:14
Jordan_U	waan: Yes	10:14
Chousuke	please consider not using it.	10:14
jp73107	i'm thinking about getting one of the new 200 series :3	10:15
jp73107	all i do is play WoW though i think that'd be absolute overkill	10:15
Jordan_U	waan: First try running "SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz --replace"	10:15
jp73107	Nvidia isn't going to release anymore linux drivers until after Xorg does whatever they're going to do with this new version of X they're doing with though, i hear	10:16
koshari	Chousuke i would argue edid detection in xorg is more of a prob than compiz	10:16
Chousuke	koshari: hm, I'm not familiar with that.	10:16
Zeepo	hi	10:16
Zeepo	got prob again	10:17
donkeyofdarkness	xorg's autodetection sux	10:17
Chousuke	koshari: all I know is that I managed to crash ubuntu twice yesterday and compiz caused it.	10:17
recoy	cody reed	10:17
ActionParsnip	yo yo yo	10:17
yodc	02:16:26 -- recoy (n=recoy@resnet25-254.housing.hawaii.edu) has joined #ubuntu	10:17
ActionParsnip	donkeyofdarkness: yep, manually configure it	10:17
Jordan_U	waan: Does compiz start when you run "SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz --replace" ?	10:17
Zeepo	my drive C: is not autmount	10:17
koshari	Chousuke so it wasnt related to graphic drivers?	10:17
Zeepo	automount	10:17
ActionParsnip	!ntfs-3g \| Zeepo	10:17
ubottu	Zeepo: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions	10:17
Chousuke	I have an Intel graphics chip	10:17
Zeepo	i cant download it	10:17
donkeyofdarkness	intel pwns	10:17
lmg	Zeepo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5549171&postcount=8	10:17
koshari	Zeepo you may need to place it in the fstab if its a perminant drive	10:18
Zeepo	the terminal said my system have the latest ntfs-3g	10:18
ActionParsnip	donkeyofdarkness: not in the graphics department	10:18
waan	Jordan_U, that sounds a little dangerous. Wouldn't it be easier to just remove ati from /usr/bin/compiz ?	10:18
donkeyofdarkness	it's usually pretty compatible though	10:18
koshari	Chousuke i have used intel graphics many a time with compiz with no drama?	10:18
ActionParsnip	Zeepo: then read the walktrough and add the line to your /etc/fstab	10:18
donkeyofdarkness	good on linux laptops	10:18
ActionParsnip	donkeyofdarkness: yeah but dont expect much gaming power	10:18
donkeyofdarkness	I know	10:18
Jordan_U	waan: That is what I was going to suggest after confirming that skip checks worked	10:19
donkeyofdarkness	I've tried	10:19
koshari	ActionParsnip who games on linux anyway?	10:19
donkeyofdarkness	it sucks for gaming	10:19
ActionParsnip	donkeyofdarkness: therefore intel != pwns	10:19
ActionParsnip	koshari: i do	10:19
Felix_Krull	Hello, I already asked this question, to solve one annoying problem. Namely, I suddenly lost autostart of the Nautilus when I insert cd/dvd or sd-card. However, usb-flash still starts happily in Nautilus. Does anyone know what is the problem???	10:19
Chousuke	intel owns if you want something that works.	10:19
koshari	koshari fires up another session of bzflag and scorched earth	10:19
Chousuke	ATI drivers are still a bit immature and nvidia... well they have closed drivers	10:19
waan	Jordan_U, yep it works fine	10:20
koshari	Chousuke yes ther are closed source but they work well.	10:20
lmg	Felix_Krull: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GNOME_Wechseldatentr%C3%A4ger_und_-medien (german)	10:20
Chousuke	koshari: they'll still cause problem	10:20
Jordan_U	waan: Ok, can you figure out what to comment out on your own?	10:20
Chousuke	+s	10:20
Chousuke	koshari: and there's no guarantee they will be maintained forever	10:21
koshari	Chousuke well the current drivers are fine for me	10:21
ActionParsnip	Chousuke: my nvidia is fine, im not too bothered the drivers are not open	10:21
Chousuke	I'm still going to prefer ATI if I need graphics power on linux :)	10:22
xnv	Anyone know which package the "bitmap" program would be in?	10:22
ActionParsnip	!bitmap	10:22
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about bitmap	10:22
lmg	xnv: use apt-file	10:22
ActionParsnip	!info bitmap	10:22
ubottu	Package bitmap does not exist in hardy	10:22
koshari	Chousuke anyway by the time the ATI open drivers are released and come up to speed i bet intel graphics will be fine for me anyway	10:22
Jordan_U	xnv: Easy way to check, run "bitmap" at a terminal :)	10:22
xnv	Jordan_U: Try it	10:22
Chousuke	koshari: might be :D	10:22
waan	Jordan_U, maybe not	10:22
ActionParsnip	xnv: whats it do?	10:22
xnv	ActionParsnip: http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/bitmap/	10:23
koshari	Chousuke in the meantime i will stick with Nv	10:23
waan	Jordan_U, i'm not sure which hardware id to remove	10:23
Shihan	anyone gotten a desktop install working via pxe?	10:23
Shihan	for 8.04 that is	10:23
ActionParsnip	xnv: ahh so it makes ascii art?	10:23
Chousuke	I'd support ATI just for being more open though.	10:23
xnv	ActionParsnip: No, it makes bitmaps	10:23
langzn	Hi all	10:24
Jordan_U	waan: It's not a hardware id, it's an if statement. Search for "laptop"	10:24
langzn	I need help	10:24
rajec	guys some program to convert video from .mov to something else?	10:24
ActionParsnip	!ask \| langzn	10:24
Jordan_U	xnv: X11-apps	10:24
ubottu	langzn: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)	10:24
langzn	Im looking for a good scanning software	10:24
waan	Jordan_U, ahh yes I see	10:24
ActionParsnip	rajec: what do you wanna convert to	10:24
langzn	anyone know of 1	10:24
xnv	Jordan_U: I already have newest version, it says	10:24
ActionParsnip	!scanner \| langzn	10:24
ubottu	langzn: Scanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR	10:24
langzn	I hate xsane	10:25
waan	Jordan_U, can I just replace return1 with return0 ?	10:25
langzn	doesn't seem to work well	10:25
koshari	Chousuke after i was stuck with an ati 9250 that my old Nv mx2 ran rings round ati leaves a bitter taste in my mouth	10:25
ActionParsnip	langzn: there are millions of alternatives	10:25
truszx	I have an M-Audio 2496 sound card and after I suspend ubuntu and then resume working, there is no sound and I have to sudo alsa force-reload. Is there a fix for this? Seems a common problem with many soundcards but I can't seem to find a reliable fix	10:25
langzn	what are the good ones you know of ?	10:25
rajec	guys some program to convert video from .mov to something else?	10:25
macv1		10:26
macv1	hi all......... is anyone able to use Texas 5in1 Card reader	10:26
ActionParsnip	langzn: no idea man, try a few, see which you like	10:26
koshari	langzn i only know of sane	10:26
donkeyofdarkness	rajec, ffmpeg	10:26
donkeyofdarkness	mencode	10:26
donkeyofdarkness	transcode	10:26
Jordan_U	waan: No, that will still exit the script	10:26
ActionParsnip	rajec: what do you want to convert to?	10:26
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rajec	ActionParship: mpeg, avi	10:26
Jordan_U	waan: Just comment out the return statement entirely	10:27
Flannel	!afk > lmg_AFK	10:27
ubottu	lmg_AFK, please see my private message	10:27
langzn	cool guys ive been looking for them just cant seem to find alternatives	10:27
Kn_	when i start ubuntu my awn doesnt show up. i try to enable my desktop effekt, and i get an error but also the awn shows up then but the position on my desktop is messed up.	10:27
ActionParsnip	rajec: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369822	10:27
langzn	you say you get one called gimp :?	10:27
waan	Jordan_U, ok thanks again for your help	10:27
Jordan_U	waan: np	10:27
koshari	langzn gimp still uses sane for scanning, most apps do	10:27
ActionParsnip	rajec: all i websearched was ubuntu mov to avi, and i got a whole swathe of results	10:27
donkeyofdarkness	ffmpeg works great	10:28
langzn	ok thanx guys seeya later	10:28
Felix_Krull	lmg: I checked that. The only thing I saw is that under System>Preferences>Removable drives and Media there are no removable drives AT ALL. Also, I did my job with Nautilus>Edit>Preferences>Media and checked everything as should be, before...	10:28
langzn	how do i save this channel on Pidgin	10:28
biouser_	how to remove a ln symbolic link or can I just rm the file?	10:29
error404notfound	I have a drive and I want to convert it to ntfs without losing data, how do I do it?	10:29
rajec	ActionParsnip: I want something tested. From my experience you can't be sure when trying something on linux	10:29
koshari	biouser_ you rm the symlink	10:29
biouser_	error404notfound, I don't think that is possible	10:29
Felix_Krull	Why on Earth would usb-flash work and cd/dvd and sd not??? This is stupid and annoying. Ans it worked in all previous versions, and in Hardy, in the beginning...	10:29
koshari	error404notfound use windows	10:29
ActionParsnip	rajec: well thats how you learn, you try stuff	10:29
Kn_	when i start ubuntu my awn doesnt show up. i try to enable my desktop effekt, and i get an error but also the awn shows up then but the position on my desktop is messed up.	10:30
biouser_	$rm (same syntax as to make th link) koshari?	10:30
error404notfound	isn't there any tool under linux that would format it as ntfs?	10:30
donkeyofdarkness	yes	10:30
donkeyofdarkness	gparted	10:30
Shihan	for some reason, the netboot kernel/initrd from the alt cd keeps trying to load a cdrom... i just dont get it	10:30
koshari	biouser_: ln is the command to create a lionk	10:30
donkeyofdarkness	back the data up, format it, and put the data back on it	10:30
ActionParsnip	langzn: under conversation you should see add	10:30
ActionParsnip	langzn: i use pidin but cant seem to add	10:31
biouser_	rm -s then , eh?	10:31
langzn	Dude action	10:31
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langzn	All you do is	10:31
langzn	go to buddies	10:32
koshari	while on pidgin subject anyone know how to hide the rooms comments ie entering, leaving	10:32
ActionParsnip	error404notfound: there mkfs.vfat	10:32
langzn	and click add chat	10:32
koshari	biouser_ just rm linkname	10:32
langzn	then add the channel room name	10:32
ActionParsnip	langzn: ive got rooms add dude, just couldnt remember	10:32
Muhammad_Saad	Hi, I want to know how to change the resolution used at the GDM login screen. Can someone help?	10:32
langzn	ok cool	10:33
ActionParsnip	langzn: you can add them from different servers too and they all hang together making it transparent	10:33
Jordan_U	koshari: Use a real IRC client, pidgin is great, just not for IRC :)	10:33
orly_owl	how can i tell what video driver is being used on the hardy live CD?	10:33
ActionParsnip	langzn: well, the connecting transparent	10:33
coyctecm	Hi guys. I used Archlinux for a long time(year or two) yesterday I decided to come back to the ubuntu camp. I'm amazed how good Ubuntu is. Everything just works out of the box. Even my Microsoft nx-3000 webcam. Now I can do my coding without playing around with os settings. Cheers!	10:33
langzn	NOW a real question how do you add a new theme on ubuntu	10:33
ActionParsnip	Onyx: glxinfo	10:33
langzn	I like eyecandy	10:33
ActionParsnip	!themes \| langzn	10:33
ubottu	langzn: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy	10:33
Jordan_U	langzn: Drag the theme into the theme chooser	10:33
koshari	Jordan_U yeah but i dont like xchat, no coloured names and hard to copy/drag user names	10:33
ActionParsnip	!compiz \| langzn	10:34
ubottu	langzn: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion	10:34
Niche	hehe my ubuntu looks sexy right now ^_^	10:34
koshari	langzn in gnome download the theme and drag it into the theme manager	10:34
donkeyofdarkness	I made mine ugly	10:34
Niche	lmao	10:34
stampida	anybody knows how to install beryl on unbuntu 8	10:34
Niche	how'd you do that	10:34
waan	Niche, which one did you settle on?	10:34
Jordan_U	!beryl \| stampida	10:34
ubottu	stampida: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion. New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz	10:34
langzn	so i download the theme file and just drag to theme manager	10:34
Niche	cairo	10:34
donkeyofdarkness	I used old themes	10:34
langzn	?	10:34
Nemesis	does anyone know how i can mount an iso so i can run it like it would be a cd (like alcohol120%	10:34
koshari	stampida beryl is no longer supported you want compiz fusuion	10:34
joaopinto	!iso \| Nemesis	10:34
ubottu	Nemesis: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.	10:34
erUSUL	!iso \| N	10:34
ubottu	N: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.	10:35
Jordan_U	langzn: Yup	10:35
stampida	thank you	10:35
Nemesis	cheers guys