[00:00] <sammino> ya i am trying to get a good search result but everything is returning dual boot with windows as first install
[00:00] <DIFH-iceroot> solexious: mailx
[00:00] <danbhfive> flip: so, what have you tried to get it working?
[00:00] <emma> !lol > alexbobp
[00:01] <flip> danbhfive: honestly? dist-upgrade; reboot
[00:01] <Ahmed-Alaa> ﻿sammino: you dont need to install any thing if your pc supports dual boot
[00:01] <flip> danbhfive: im totally new to ubuntu --- but a long time linux user; though not on a laptop; im just unframiliar on how to connect
[00:01] <flip> danbhfive: i may have support for all i know? the ubuntu network manager only shows my wired connection
[00:01] <danbhfive> flip: well, it looks like its either madwifi, or ndiswrapper for your wifi card
[00:02] <flip> which SUCKS because the windows driver is really tough to extract
[00:02] <sammino> ahmed, so if i want to dual boot  and install windows after my ubuntu, i assume i resize the drive then change grub and install..  which is the instructions i am looking for :)
[00:02] <danbhfive> flip: since I just tried madwifi on my own card, and it was SUPPOSED to work, but failed, I suggest the windows driver
[00:03] <balz> sammino:  http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[00:03] <DIFH-iceroot> is there a way to block some ports if i CANT use iptables (because of vserver)
[00:03] <Ahmed-Alaa> :D
[00:04] <lizzie> Why is ubottu able to be told to send unsolicited private messages to people who are not in the channel?
[00:04] <sammino> thanks
[00:04] <lyk3n> DIFH-iceroot firestarter is a free firewall
[00:04] <danbhfive> lizzie: are you sure its happening?  if so, try your question in #ubuntu-ops maybe
[00:04] <DIFH-iceroot> lyk3n: thank you, i will look at it
[00:05] <flip> danbhfive: you dont think the ipw3945 drive is worth a shot?
[00:05] <lizzie> danbhfive: danbhfive I'm sure it's happening
[00:06] <lizzie> danbhfive: emma just got ubottu to PM alexbobp
[00:06] <lizzie> I'll ask in that channel, thanks
[00:06] <balz> sammino:  np
[00:06] <balz> lyk3n:  firestarter is a frontend for iptables
[00:06] <Finiras> help.. my wireless internet doesn't work anymore while i selected the right protocol and password. it just keeps asking for the password as if its wrong
[00:07] <balz> DIFH-iceroot:  i believe firestarter is a frontend for iptables... so if you can't use iptables, i don't know if firestarter can help
[00:07] <Ahmed-Alaa> ppl my wireless work good without any drivers but i send email to D-link support and get driver for linux the driver name is ﻿"madwifi" what i get if i install it ??
[00:07] <slashjamiec> mornin' all :)
[00:08] <Ahmed-Alaa> hi
[00:08] <DIFH-iceroot> balz: ah ok
[00:08] <danbhfive> flip: well, it looks like you still need to get a binary blob.  I don't suggest it simply because I don't quite understand the directions im looking at.  I don't understand these "external" drivers, that aren't in the kernel already, but you can still install them.  Half free, half closed source, all beta?  I say, screw it, ndiswrapper  : )
[00:09] <slashjamiec> Ahmed-Alaa : If it already works then you won't probably need to install the driver, although if you install madwifi, you'll get the following: "http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/madwifi/"
[00:10] <solvanora> is the latest ubuntu hardy?
[00:10] <Neon_> yep
[00:10] <zapato> for now, yes
[00:10] <solvanora> hehe ok
[00:10] <zapato> new releases are out ever 6 months
[00:10] <solvanora> they all get a nickname?
[00:10] <zapato> yeah they do
[00:10] <slashjamiec> I'm always back in the times, lol, I'm on 7.10
[00:10] <SebNaitsabes> solvanora:  yep for now untill some time at the end of October
[00:10] <Neon_> Mhhmm. Intrepid will be awesome. :]
[00:11] <solvanora> is the next with an "I"?
[00:11] <SebNaitsabes> probably not that much differnet from Hardy
[00:11] <zapato> all ubuntu releases are named with the same pattern ie. Gutst Gibbon (GG) Hardy Heron (HH)
[00:11] <zapato> i think that's cool
[00:11] <Neon_> yup, then Intrepid Ibex and Jaunty Jackalope
[00:11] <zapato> and rather clever
[00:11] <SebNaitsabes> zapato:  oh didn't reolize that, makes sense
[00:11] <Finiras> what happens when it reaches ZZ? :P
[00:11] <solvanora> yes its cool "D
[00:11] <slashjamiec> That's awesome, all my computers get a nickname, I use the 7 Deadly Sins nicknames, so this PC would be "superbia"
[00:11] <SebNaitsabes> zapto: what was the first Ubuntu called I don't remember that
[00:12] <Neon_> warty warthog wasn't it?
[00:12] <SebNaitsabes> that's what I thought
[00:12] <SebNaitsabes> so his pattern is wrong
[00:12] <zapato> SebNaitsabes: i cant honestly remember...
[00:12] <Finiras> oh so its not from AA to ZZ
[00:12] <Finiras> ?
[00:12] <Neon_> -googles-
[00:12] <slashjamiec> It's on the tip of my tongue
[00:13] <Neon_> yess, Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog)
[00:13] <zapato> Warty Warthog
[00:13] <slashjamiec> Excellent
[00:13] <balz> is there a  way to implement on-the-fly compression in an ubuntu filesystem?
[00:13] <Neon_> then breezy badger, dapper drake, edgy eft
[00:13] <Finiras> why does it start at 4.10
[00:13]  * solvanora gives genius_ a great deal (wrapped with a ribbon) of respect for his help
[00:14] <DIFH-iceroot> if i want a domain for my server, do i just need to point the url to my ip-adresse and write the domain in /etc/hosts ?or are there any other steps to do?
[00:14] <SebNaitsabes> Finiras: because they like their weird numbering system
[00:14] <Area_51__> if wanted to make a backup of the way i have this system how would i go about making a install disk that would load everything i have put into this distrobution
[00:14] <narimanmm> is it possible to change seconds of idle time in the Auto Dim future???
[00:14] <bobbyd> hi, it is possible (and safe) to update from 32bit ubuntu hardy to 64 bit on my core2 due machine?
[00:14] <slashjamiec> DIFH-iceroot : You can do it that way providing that your IP address is static
[00:14] <danbhfive> !clone > Area_51__
[00:14] <DIFH-iceroot> slashjamiec: its static
[00:14] <zapato> This is a tech question coming at you guys: I just ripped a fried 330 watt power supply out of a micro tower and I need to put another one in.  Now we all know that 330's suck but I need something small to fit in the micro tower. Are there any small sized 400 or 500 watts that would fit?
[00:14] <bobbyd> !clone > bobbyd
[00:15] <slashjamiec> DIFH-iceroot : Excellent, just point your domain to your IP address from a nameserver it's hosted at and everything will work flawlessly. Easy!
[00:15] <Area_51__> nah if this thing crashs i just want it back the way i had it without going through everything i already went through
[00:15] <solvanora> 330 can be quite nice, if its a proper brand
[00:15] <zapato> i find 330'
[00:15] <SuperQ> zapato: Most power supplies are far over-speced for machines
[00:15] <DIFH-iceroot> slashjamiec: ok, thanks
[00:15] <zapato> 330's to be far underpowered
[00:16] <Area_51__> ok
[00:16] <hitman1985> hi at all, for a amd 3800+ x2 athlon 64 should i install 64 bit ubuntu or should i run with regular ?
[00:16] <SanityInFlux> over-specing a PSU can put you at a better efficiency
[00:16] <solvanora> i run overclocked core 2 duo (1.6->3.2ghz) and a 8800 GT on a 350 or something
[00:16] <SuperQ> SanityInFlux: not true
[00:16] <`Matir> Can anyone recommend a decent non-linear video editor for linux?  I've looked at kino and cinelerra... but was wondering what others use lately.
[00:16] <DIFH-iceroot> so i will try that postfix can handle 2 domains :)
[00:16] <SanityInFlux> SuperQ: yes, true
[00:16] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd: nope. do a fresh install
[00:16] <SuperQ> SanityInFlux: That highly depends on the efficency curve of the switching supply
[00:16] <zapato> Guess I'll just put another 330w in.
[00:16] <bellatlantic> hi
[00:16] <KDB9000> I have a small problem. I can live with it if there is no fix but when something get highlighted (and is the only one) I can't read the text. Anyway to change this?
[00:16] <zapato> I don't feel like worrying about it to much, its for a friend.
[00:16] <ckyle> this isn't ##hardware
[00:16] <SanityInFlux> SuperQ: yes, it does, and most of them run most efficiently when at 50-60% load
[00:16] <bobbyd> ScheissDrogen: ok :( are there generally any problems with 64 bit?
[00:17] <slashjamiec> KDB90000 : I think it could be an issue with your GTK+ theme
[00:17] <solvanora> zapato, you should use a proper brand, as i said
[00:17] <solvanora> i really like Antecs
[00:17] <SanityInFlux> is opengeu discussion valid here?
[00:17] <zapato> 64 bit support for Ubuntu is just that. support actually exists.
[00:17] <narimanmm> change idle time for auto dim anyone???
[00:17] <solvanora> but others may differ ofc
[00:17] <slashjamiec> KDB90000 : If you have recently changed themes when this happened, rollback to the last one and see if that fixes it
[00:17] <KDB9000> slashjamiec, Is there anything I can do to fix it?
[00:17] <cyphase> wow, a lot of proposed updates today..
[00:17] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd: its no so far supported as 32, but no prob to use 32apps in 64 install
[00:18] <zapato> solvanora: I'll go with a 330 then. save some money that way anyways
[00:18] <SuperQ> SanityInFlux: true
[00:18] <Area_51__> !automate
[00:18] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd: *not
[00:18] <slashjamiec> KDB90000 : Sure, http://ubuntuanswers.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/applying-gtk-themes-in-ubuntu-710/
[00:18] <lizzie> stdin: thanks!
[00:18] <lizzie> !automate > alexbobp
[00:18] <bobbyd> ScheissDrogen: maybe I'll stick with 32 :)
[00:18] <SuperQ> SanityInFlux: I just go poke around on 80plus.org
[00:18] <SanityInFlux> zapato: i'd look for one with a certified 80plus efficiency and be done with it
[00:18] <smm289> ubuntu 8.04 here, why do I not hvae a System > Administration > Shared folders selection
[00:18] <lizzie> stdin: that's not right, he seems to have gotten the PM
[00:18] <solvanora> efficiency is nice, stability is everything
[00:18] <smm289> its all there except for the Shared Folders option
[00:19] <cyphase> smm289: you can share folders from within nautilus
[00:19] <diamantisk> ubundu is the best
[00:19] <ckyle> the best wha?
[00:19] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd: if you got enough space on hd, you could try 64 also, is what I'm doing
[00:19] <zapato> sanityinflux: I'm just going to search newegg. 80plus you say? ok, ill keep an eye out for that
[00:19] <ckyle> what?
[00:19] <zapato> thanks everyone
[00:19] <SanityInFlux> solvanora: they go hand in hand most of the time when power supplies are concerned
[00:19] <diamantisk> the best OS for pc
[00:19] <diamantisk> laptop
[00:19] <cyphase> smm289: meaning, it doesn't run the old share-folders utility, and doesn't require admin privleges
[00:19] <diamantisk> etc
[00:19] <SuperQ> zapato: Yes, 80plus.org is a great site for looking for efficient supplies
[00:19] <solvanora> true true
[00:19] <bobbyd> ScheissDrogen: just dual boot?
[00:19] <cyphase> smm289: try it
[00:19] <solvanora> yw zapato
[00:19] <hitman1985> ScheissDrogen, should i run the 64 bit on my 3800+ x2 ? :-)
[00:19] <smm289> try what
[00:19] <zapato> superq: awesome, thanks again
[00:19] <smm289> its not there
[00:19] <zapato> later guys
[00:20] <DIFH-iceroot> can i just make a mirror from a ubuntu repo with wget and can use this repo instead of ubuntu repos? so 10 computers can get updates from lan and not wan
[00:20] <solvanora> bb
[00:20] <cyphase> smm289: right click on a folder
[00:20] <cyphase> smm289: in nautilus
[00:20] <smm289> sorry did not see above folder
[00:20] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd: or multiple boot... depending on space (and a will to figure it out)
[00:20] <SuperQ> zapato: It's also worth looking at the actual usage of your system using a kill-a-watt or watts up in-line power meter
[00:20] <slashjamiec> okay, time for coffee and wakeup, I will be unavailable for 10 minutes.
[00:20] <cyphase> smm289: and choose Sharing Options
[00:20] <smm289> ok, i can do the right click nautilus thing, but I think the samba server on that system has taken over the entire sharing process
[00:20] <smm289> the windows share works fine through samba
[00:21] <cyphase> smm289: what do you mean?
[00:21] <SanityInFlux> SuperQ: why?  facts are useless :)  just go with "i o/c therefore I need a 1kw"
[00:21] <SuperQ> zachb: For example, my dual-core AMD (5000+) with 5x SATA drives and a decent (but not insane) nvidia card uses ~120W at idle, and 230W at peak
[00:21] <smm289> but even if i have done the right click share options in Nautilus, my linux laptop still wants to access the share throught smb://
[00:21] <SuperQ> SanityInFlux: Hahaha
[00:21] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd,hitman1985: its just my oppinion that 64 is still in the coming, for best reliability I would prefer 32, but 64 gets developed more and more
[00:21] <[Kastor]> hey there :)
[00:21] <cyphase> smm289: access what share? the one on your computer?
[00:21] <SuperQ> I use an older antec 380W PSU
[00:21] <smm289> file server running ubuntu 8.04, samba setup for windows clients, right click share for linux clients
[00:22] <hitman1985> ScheissDrogen, ok, ima stick with 32 later, i just traded my p4 2.8 against a 3800+ :0 haha
[00:22] <smm289> when i use the linux client to access the share I still get the smb:// in the address bar
[00:22] <SanityInFlux> SuperQ: and I see nothing wrong with using a 1kw on an atom
[00:22] <^Phantom^> Question:  how much space should I give ubuntu when I do the partition
[00:22] <[Kastor]> could anyone please direct me to a good CPU OC software for Ubu 8.04, with at least some basic GUI?
[00:22] <SuperQ> SanityInFlux: :)
[00:22] <cyphase> smm289: yea.. because it's using the smb protocol
[00:22] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd,hitman1985: it also depends on how much ram u want to use (see windows)
[00:22] <^Phantom^> here's my current hdd status
 Fixed Drives Total:[107GB] Free:[69.4GB] Used:[37.8GB] [64.73% free] <UPP>
[00:22] <zachb> ﻿SuperQ: why me?
[00:22] <KDB9000> slashjamiec, I didn't see anything that helped me. I did all that already and checked in there to see if I can change the highlight color or something like that, didn't see anything.
[00:22] <SuperQ> zachb: sorry, miss-directed
[00:22] <zachb> oh, okay :-)
[00:22] <smm289> but with linux to linux sharing shouldn;t it NOT be using the samba protocol, or does it not matter
[00:23] <lyk3n> ScheissDrogen:dude it still didnt work
[00:23] <cyphase> smm289: it doesn't matter
[00:23] <hitman1985> ScheissDrogen, only thing im worried about is that it runs fine :P i dont care about usage too much :)
[00:23] <SuperQ> smm289: You get a bit more speed out of NFS, but it really doesn't matter that much
[00:23] <Area_51__> !cloning
[00:23] <^Phantom^> I was thinking 8 or 12 gigs
[00:23] <^Phantom^> which would be better?
[00:23] <hitman1985> ScheissDrogen, but ok, i ll talk to you later again, when i get the e521 runing and ready to go :) have a good one
[00:23] <SanityInFlux> is nfs4 more reliable than v3 used to be?
[00:24] <smm289> if I don't right click share optins the linux client does not see the share under the network browse, I have to manually type in the address.  So with linux to linux share the right click share option just allows it to show up in the network browse window ?
[00:24] <ScheissDrogen> hitman1985: use 32 then, only (very minimal) differ is at compiling whole kernel I found, see you then
[00:24] <^Phantom^> i will brb
[00:24] <smm289> <-- is new to ubuntu - 2 weeks and counting
[00:24] <[Kastor]> sigh.. guys? anyone? please? :)
[00:25] <solvanora> cpu overclock?
[00:25] <solvanora> why dont you use bios?
[00:25] <[Kastor]> yeah, on 8.04, with a GUI
[00:25] <cyphase> smm289: if it's shared by samba, it should show up. why do you have to manually type it in? is the address you're manually typing an smb address?
[00:25] <StevenX> How come I seem to have a higher resolution in Windows than in Ubuntu? There seems to be more screen real estate in Windows. It's my only real tick about Ubuntu.
[00:25] <[Kastor]> because it's less effective that way on my rig
[00:26] <solvanora> well i cant help you as im brandnew to ubuntu
[00:26] <solvanora> but i think its strange =]
[00:26] <[Kastor]> the same settings are unstable when set in BIOS, stable when set in Windows ClockGen
[00:26] <cyphase> StevenX: is it actually a higher resolution, or does it just seem like it is
[00:26] <solvanora> oh ok
[00:26] <solvanora> but dont trust overclock progs in windows
[00:26] <solvanora> they lie
[00:26] <[Kastor]> yeah, but cpu-z does not :D
[00:26] <solvanora> aye
[00:26] <StevenX> cyphase, I'm doing something at the moment, so I can't actually check the numbers, but if my memory serves me right, it just "seems" like its a higher resolution on Windows.
[00:27] <solvanora> but maybe it adjusts voltages without you knowing?
[00:27] <solvanora> concealing the truth is also lying
[00:27] <cyphase> StevenX: i have noticed this before, and how i fixed it was by changing the DPI settings in Gnome
[00:27] <[Kastor]> and I get 2.87Ghz stable out of my 2.1Ghz X2 4000+ (FSB 270.19), when the same on BIOS is unstable
[00:27] <solvanora> so my consious says when i dont tell a piggy she's fat
[00:27] <moghadam> is it possible to change idle time in the "auto dim LCD" feature
[00:27] <smm289> if I don't have a folder shared through nautilis just through samba, and im on the linux client, when i click network the file server does not show up, but if i type in the samba address the folder is displayed fine.  If I have a nautilus share when I click network the file server is displayed and when I click on the icon for the server all of the shares are displayed, nautilus and samba, now when I click on the Nautilus share the folder 
[00:27] <cyphase> StevenX: it's not really a bug, just a different setting
[00:27] <[Kastor]> solvanora, nope it does not
[00:27] <smm289> should I just ignore this and be happy I have connection
[00:27] <[Kastor]> cpu-z would detect that and there's no change
[00:28] <solvanora> strange
[00:28] <[Kastor]> yeah, I know
[00:28] <StevenX> cyphase, thank you. Know that I know what the prolem might be, I can fix it. I'll look up how to change those settings.
[00:28] <cyphase> smm289: the nautilus share dialog is using samba
[00:28] <solvanora> retarded mobo?
[00:28] <solvanora> brand?
[00:28] <cyphase> StevenX: one second
[00:28] <[Kastor]> DFI Infinity :D
[00:28] <solvanora> omg
[00:28] <SanityInFlux> what music players come on the livecd?
[00:28] <cyphase> System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[00:28] <[Kastor]> definitely not a retarded mobo :D
[00:28] <solvanora> nope
[00:29] <cyphase> StevenX: System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[00:29] <smm289> ok, I guess I will just be happy i have share access between windows clients and linux clients, I will just ignore the smb address on the linux client
[00:29] <Finiras> my wireless internet doesn't work anymore while i selected the right protocol and password. it just keeps asking for the password as if its wrong
[00:29] <[Kastor]> I think it hiccups when the settings are set all at once
[00:29] <[Kastor]> it might be rather my RAM giving up
[00:29] <alphaaa> hi
[00:29] <solvanora> RAM can be a bitch
[00:29] <cyphase> smm289: i don't understand what's wrong.. one second..
[00:29] <alphaaa> anyone here receiving the slashdot newsletter ?
[00:29] <cyphase> StevenX: then go to the Font tab
[00:29] <[Kastor]> but when I get them in BIOS, only FSB on defs, and then up the FSB in ClockGen, everything's fine
[00:30] <[Kastor]> hence, I need an OC soft for ubuntu :)
[00:30] <StevenX> cyphase, thanks.
[00:30] <l_mysterioso> slashdot, for years
[00:30] <solvanora> right you are
[00:30] <solvanora> cant help you alas
[00:30] <smm289> nothings really wrong, I was just thought that it was bad for two linux systems to share under samaba, and that samba was just for linux to windows
[00:30] <cyphase> StevenX: then the Details button at the bottom
[00:30] <[Kastor]> and I can't find any :/
[00:30] <ANONYMOU5> Hai guise.
[00:30] <alphaaa> l_mysterioso : i often don't get it. do they skip it sometimes ?
[00:30] <moghadam> 4chan?
[00:30]  * [Kastor] needs CPU overclocking soft for Ubuntu 8.04 - please HALP. 
[00:30] <l_mysterioso> @alphaaa it's pretty daily for me
[00:31] <cyphase> StevenX: i set mine to 75
[00:31] <l_mysterioso> @alphaaa might want to check your spam filters
[00:31]  * solvanora plz help dear old [Kastor]
[00:31] <[Kastor]> solvanora, thanks anyway :)
[00:31] <solvanora> ^^
[00:31] <solvanora> im off
[00:31] <solvanora> glg
[00:31] <[Kastor]> cya
[00:31] <[Kastor]> thx
[00:31] <moghadam> no body wants to help me then?
[00:31] <alphaaa> l_mysterioso : i didn't get it most of last week
[00:31] <Finiras> my wireless internet doesn't work anymore while i selected the right protocol and password. it just keeps asking for the password as if its wrong
[00:31] <cyphase> StevenX: also, remember there are 2 panels in ubuntu, as opposed to one in windows. you can change the size of the panels, delete them, etc
[00:32] <smm289> well back to work, thanks for the help. --> LONG LIVE UBUNTU ---> DOWN WITH WINDOWS
[00:32] <cyphase> smm289: i'm about to pm you
[00:32] <solvanora> WINDOWN, UBUNTUP
[00:32] <smm289> ok
[00:33] <Finiras> windows is ok as long as ubuntu has so many bugs
[00:33] <solvanora> i really hope, M$ made a capital mistake with launching vista and make it extremely expensive once again
[00:33] <solvanora> finiras, XP is ok
[00:33] <moghadam> agree wth Finiras
[00:33] <solvanora> but Vista is buggy as well
[00:33] <l_mysterioso> @alphaaa i just took a look at my email and i have all of them.
[00:34] <TrailWhisperer> Anyone know how to disable cube caps in compiz (so that they're not there, not just disable with a blank solid face). Used to have a plugin for cube caps, in the latest compize, I'm clueless.
[00:34] <slashjamiec> KBD90000 : Sorry, I'm unsure as to why to help
[00:34] <slashjamiec> KBD0000 : Sorry, *how to help*
[00:34] <l_mysterioso> TrailWhisperer are you using Hardy?
[00:35] <K^Holtz> ive got a 2 gb flash drive but only 120MB of it is being recognized. even if i use parted or format the drive in windows.... any idea how i can get all 2 gigs back? i think it was corrupted by putting a program on it
[00:35] <K^Holtz> i dont care about the data on it
[00:35] <slashjamiec> k^Holtz : Format it?
[00:36] <K^Holtz> i tried to format it in windows slashjamiec ... it still only formateed 120MB
[00:37] <pepperjack> K^Holtz try deleting and recreating the partition maybe in ubuntu.
[00:37] <slashjamiec> pepperjack +1
[00:37] <pepperjack> K^Holtz somebody stole your megabytes
[00:37] <danbhfive> K^Holtz: maybe its just broken
[00:37] <K^Holtz> pepperjack: in red hat using parted i deleted the partitions and made a new one, but it kept failing to format saying i was trying to build beyond the size of the disk
[00:37] <slashjamiec> oh noes! but THATS my megabytes >.<
[00:38] <K^Holtz> danbhfive: its 3 different drives that this happened to
[00:38] <slashjamiec> K^Holtz: Seems like some broken sectors (if USB has sectors) or something hardware based.
[00:38] <slashjamiec> K^Holtz: You sure there isn't assigned partitions? Or have you used it for an OS recently?
[00:38] <K^Holtz> so is there an easy way to just completely wipe it clean and regain any corrupted 'sectors'?
[00:39] <nonewmsgs> !gyache
[00:39] <nonewmsgs> !gyach
[00:39] <K^Holtz> if u could just tell me a utility to use, and what command to type, that would be awesome
[00:39] <nonewmsgs> is Gyache no longer in the repositories?
[00:40] <spiritssight> Does any one know of a VERY good HTML editor or design tool so I can create screen layouts of a webpage
[00:41] <slashjamiec> K^Holtz: Have you EVER seen 2GB of space on that USB?
[00:41] <K^Holtz> slashjamiec: yes, and it says 2g on the drive
[00:41] <slashjamiec> ok
[00:41] <frenchy> does anyone else experience slower copy speed in ubuntu than other distros
[00:42] <K^Holtz>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[00:42] <K^Holtz> /dev/sdc1               1         980      125424    b  W95 FAT32
[00:42] <K^Holtz> theres the drive in fdisk -l
[00:42] <slashjamiec> spiritssight : kompozer?
[00:42] <pepperjack> frenchy you can check hdparm or sdparm to see what your settings are
[00:42] <danbhfive> K^Holtz: why not just use fdisk?
[00:43] <K^Holtz> danbhfive: what command do i type to wipe it clean and reformat in fat32?
[00:43] <Cynic> tell me
[00:43] <pepperjack> frenchy example: http://www.linuxweblog.com/hdparm
[00:44] <frenchy> pepperjack dont know why anything would be different in ubuntu - im copying my music from my ext HD and i get about 13MB/s and yesterday i was doing the same in sabayon and got about 23Mb/s
[00:44] <AlNahar> im getting an "input not supported" error after booting to newly installed ubuntu?
[00:44] <slashjamiec> Alnahar: Hardware.
[00:44] <AlNahar> what do i do?
[00:44] <K^Holtz> heres proof that its 2 gigs...
[00:44] <K^Holtz> Disk /dev/sdc: 1994 MB, 1994227200 bytes
[00:44] <K^Holtz> 8 heads, 32 sectors/track, 15214 cylinders
[00:44] <K^Holtz> Units = cylinders of 256 * 512 = 131072 bytes
[00:44] <K^Holtz> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[00:44] <FloodBot1> K^Holtz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:45] <K^Holtz> lil too much :/
[00:45] <amit> K^Holtz: mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/device ?
[00:45] <slashjamiec> alNahar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=457519
[00:45] <danbhfive> K^Holtz: try parted
[00:45] <amit> don't run that unless you're sure you want to nuke the device contents
[00:45] <pepperjack> K^Holtz its just lazy cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdc until it cleans up its act
[00:46] <K^Holtz> amit im sure
[00:46] <amit> and don't mistype the device name :P
[00:46] <slashjamiec> amit: LOL
[00:46] <K^Holtz> ok, i typed it amit... lets see
[00:47] <Elektro_Boy> exit
[00:47] <l_mysterioso> Elektro_Boy: wrong window?
[00:47] <K^Holtz> nope, still only recognizes 128MB
[00:48] <slashjamiec> balls.
[00:48] <K^Holtz> slashjamiec: thats what i said
[00:48] <slashjamiec> K_Holtz: lol
[00:48] <amit> is this some kind of flash card?
[00:48] <K^Holtz> pepperjack: what was that cat thing u were talking about?
[00:49] <ph0rensic> !flash
[00:49] <K^Holtz> amit, its a usb flash memory disk
[00:49] <K^Holtz> drive.. not disk
[00:49] <amit> okay, I just read the backlog
[00:49] <amit> I've had that happen to me before with a microsd card actually
[00:49] <K^Holtz> this happened two 3 different drives
[00:49] <slashjamiec> K^Holtz: This is v. weird.
[00:50] <danbhfive> K^Holtz: what are you using this for?
[00:50] <K^Holtz> danbhfive: i just want to reclaim the drive so i can use it for file transport between systems...
[00:50] <K^Holtz> someone i work with loaded something on it that claimed almost all of one 2 gig drive and two 1 gig drives
[00:51] <Imaginativeone> what's a good PVP for linux?
[00:51] <amit> K^Holtz: did you repartition it?
[00:51] <slashjamiec> Imaginativeone : You mean, PVP game, or P2P network client?
[00:51] <ScheissDrogen> whats wrong if ff can do internet but terminal (apt) can't ? if I boot to terminal, it also works with apt
[00:51] <mib_lhfac4> hello
[00:51] <amit> the fdisk you pasted shows the first partition is only 128MB
[00:51] <amit> consistent with what you're seeing
[00:51] <K^Holtz> amit, i used parted to delete all the partitions...
[00:51] <Imaginativeone> Portable Video Player
[00:51] <slashjamiec> !hi | mib_lhfac4
[00:51] <mib_lhfac4> someone know the correct alternative of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?
[00:52] <nonewmsgs> if i find a deb that was "designed for gutsy", will it work in hardy?
[00:52] <amit> K^Holtz: what did you type to create the new partition?
[00:52] <mib_lhfac4> Someone know the correct alternative of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?
[00:52] <K^Holtz> amit: but when i tried to use parted to make a 2 gig partition, it kept telling me i was using too much space
[00:52] <slashjamiec> nonewmsgs : It should, you might just need to grab a dependency or two
 can you ping from the terminal, is it just apt that won't connect?
[00:53] <slashjamiec> mib_lhfac4: Please only state your problem once every 10 minutes, or try on the ubuntu forums, Someone who knows a correct answer will be with you shortly.
[00:53] <ScheissDrogen> ﻿ l_mysterioso: can't ping
[00:53] <amit> K^Holtz: when you run parted /dev/sdc, and type p at the prompt, what does it say after "Disk /dev/sdc:"
[00:53] <K^Holtz> i hope this isnt too long.. but here is the output of a parted print all for sdc1
[00:53] <l_mysterioso> ScheissDrogen: but you can browse with FF?
[00:54] <K^Holtz> Disk /dev/sdc: 1994MB
[00:54] <K^Holtz> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[00:54] <K^Holtz> Partition Table: msdos
[00:54] <K^Holtz> Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags
[00:54] <K^Holtz>  1      16.4kB  128MB  128MB  primary  fat32
[00:54] <FloodBot1> K^Holtz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:54] <amit> uhh
[00:54] <amit> K^Holtz: delete the partition, and make one that's 1994MB
[00:54] <K^Holtz> pretty weird huh?
[00:54] <slashjamiec> K^Holtz: That really sucks. Something you DONT want to see on a 2gb drive.
[00:54] <ScheissDrogen> ﻿ l_mysterioso: yes, its very strange, also opera and pidgin don't work
[00:54] <amit> 2GB will be too big for it
[00:54] <amit> since that translates to 2048MB, and your drive is slightly smaller
[00:55] <slashjamiec> try 1999MB
[00:55] <amit> parted is annoying in that it won't let you just hit enter for the default of the partition taking all remaining space
[00:55] <K^Holtz> rm 1 does nothing.. says the partition doesnt exist
[00:55] <amit> so you have to type in the end size by hand
[00:55] <RickZilla> Ok, downloading ubuntu for the first time, going to try it out on an old 486 machine I grabbed from my parents when they got a new computer a few months ago
[00:56] <slashjamiec> RickZilla: Excellent, is there an issue?
[00:56] <nonewmsgs> rickzilla not to be an ass but are you going to want a gui?
[00:56] <RickZilla> slashjamiec:  None that I know of, except that it's currently running win98 :-)
[00:56] <K^Holtz> amit oh, its saying /dev/sdc is 1994 MB but its saying /dev/sdc1 is 128
[00:57] <MarcC> how can I stop Ubuntu from logging me off when I lock the screen? It happens sometimes.
[00:57] <RickZilla> nonewmsgs:  Nope, you're not being an ass...what's a gui?  (sorry, total linux newb here)
[00:57] <slashjamiec> RickZilla: Cancel the download, and try download "Puppy Linux" or a smaller distribution because Ubuntu won't bootup natively in a gui with those system specs within 7 days.
[00:57] <nonewmsgs> RickZilla, a 486 will probably be too old.  a gui is that nice thing with an arrow instead of just typing things (like dos)
[00:58] <RickZilla> oh...graphic user interface
[00:58] <amit> K^Holtz: what about typing "resize 1 16.4kB 1994MB"
[00:58] <l_mysterioso> RickZilla: G.raphical U.ser I.nterface
[00:58] <RickZilla> within 7 days?  not sure whta you mean
[00:58] <slashjamiec> nonewmsgs: I have 512MB of RAM and I'm running fluxbox with a ripped-to-nothing version of ubuntu and I still get graphical lag. Oh, even with a 256MB video card!
[00:58] <RickZilla> so a 486 is too slow for full ubuntu?
[00:58] <slashjamiec> RickZilla: Ubuntu will take days to load on a 486.
[00:59] <K^Holtz> (parted) resize 1 16.4kB 1994MB
[00:59] <K^Holtz> No Implementation: GNU Parted cannot resize this partition to this size.  We're
[00:59] <K^Holtz> working on it!
[00:59] <amit> hmmmm
[00:59] <RickZilla> really...didn't know that
[00:59] <grobda24> RickZilla, check the requirements on the Ubuntu site.
[00:59] <slashjamiec> RickZilla: Try "DamnSmallLinux", or also try "PuppyLinux" ... They're both fine desktop OS's for new users.
[00:59] <nonewmsgs> RickZilla, try damn small linux.  but if i recall correctly the minimum stats for even that are 133mhz
[00:59] <RickZilla> This has at least that, I'm pretty sure
[00:59] <amit> K^Holtz: oh, that's because it wants to resize the fat32 fs
[00:59] <RickZilla> 256, actually
[00:59] <amit> and it doesn't know how
[01:00] <amit> so "rm 1" does nothing?
[01:00] <RickZilla> I"ll try it....thanks for you info and saving me some grief down the road
[01:00] <slashjamiec> RickZilla: I still don't recommend it. Seriously :P
[01:00] <Codiah> Anyone willing to help a new guy out with a question or two?
[01:00] <RickZilla> slashjamiec:  Your help is much appreciated
[01:00] <slashjamiec> RickZilla: No problems, if you decide to go back to ubuntu, you know where we are!
[01:00] <K^Holtz> amit: ok, it might have worked that time
[01:00] <amit> K^Holtz: and when you do p afterwards, 1 still shows up?
[01:00] <BiteMeBill> amit, if you do rm --help or man rm you can see what does what.
[01:00] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: can i get around that error?
[01:01] <nonewmsgs> slashjamiec, how fast is your processor?
[01:01] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: I'm not sure, disabling the troubled device if you're not using it might work
[01:01] <amit> BiteMeBill: i'm pretty sure the syntax within parted is "help rm"
[01:01] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: nothing else is plugged in and it still happens
[01:01] <slashjamiec> nonewmsgs: Uhh. 2.03GHZ last time I checked
[01:01] <K^Holtz> amit: here is the output of print now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45557/
[01:01] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: hmmm
[01:02] <Qster> why hasnt ubuntu made an easier way to add monitor graphics display modes i still havent figured out how to get 120hz even tho my monitor supports it. got it to 100hz
[01:02] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: You're running an LCD monitor, aren't you? :P
[01:03] <l_mysterioso> Codiah: of course
[01:03] <AlNahar> yes
[01:03] <amit> uhh
[01:03] <amit> K^Holtz: have you tried another program like cfdisk?
[01:04] <soundray> Qster: are you aware that 100Hz is much more ergonomic than 120Hz?
[01:04] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: yes, an lcd monitor
[01:04] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: It's to do with that. You'll need to edit your xorg.conf file to go with your LCD's "horiz sync" and "vert refresh", X is loading something that isn't supported. I can't help you on this matter because I don't know these functions for your monitor, refer to your manual.
[01:04] <Codiah> ok, well i'm extreemly interested in ubuntu, at themoment running windows vista on a notebook pc i just bought, but i hate vista with a passion, at least i have come to... question is, if i remove vista and install ubuntu will everything work fine, such as my wireless and touchpad mouse
[01:05] <AlNahar> cant i just remove the horiz sync and vert lines?
[01:05] <K^Holtz> amit: is this what i would type to make it a 1994 mb drive partition? (parted) mkpartfs primary fat32 0 1994
[01:05] <slashjamiec> Codiah: Yes.
[01:05] <Codiah> wireless as in internet card if that was confusing
[01:05] <helpme> what command in linux is equivalent to ipconfig in windows?
[01:05] <BiteMeBill> Codiah what make and model notebook do you have?
[01:05] <slashjamiec> Codiah: I'm not too sure about "everything" working seamlessly, but a driver here and there needed to be installed doesn't hurt anybody
[01:05] <l_mysterioso> Codiah: that all depends on your hardware but the most likely answer is yes.
[01:05] <soundray> helpme: ifconfig (roughly)
[01:05] <amit> K^Holtz: put MB after the numbers
[01:05] <amit> i'm not sure what unit it assumes if you don't put one
[01:05] <Codiah> HP compaq presario f700
[01:05] <l_mysterioso> Codiah: you can try the live disk and see how it works out.
[01:06] <helpme> it says bash: ipconfig: command not found
[01:06] <soundray> helpme: read carefully
[01:06] <Codiah> what does the live disk do?
[01:06] <amit> so mkpartfs primary fat32 0MB 1994MB
[01:06] <grobda24> slashjamiec, why does this page https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html say 486 is supported ? Confused :/
[01:06] <K^Holtz> amit: oh man, i think it might have worked...
[01:06] <BiteMeBill> Codiah, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656756
[01:07] <BiteMeBill> helpme, it is ifconfig not ipconfig
[01:07] <slashjamiec> grobda24: I didn't say it wasn't, I said it would be a pain trying to run Ubuntu on a 486 and I personally wouldn't, but it's up to you to take the plunge and try and run a GUI on a 233mhz
[01:07] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: can't i comment out thoselines?
[01:07] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: Oh, oh, god no
[01:07] <grobda24> slashjamiec, so it does it really take days to load ?
[01:07] <MarcC> how can I get ubuntu to tell me what network card I have?
[01:07] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: i've done that in fedora before and it just did some defaults
[01:08] <AlNahar> like right now, in my xorg.conf in fedora, i have this
[01:08] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: Oh yeah, try reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202934
[01:08] <soundray> MarcC: lspci
[01:08] <AlNahar>     HorizSync       30.0 - 110.0
[01:08] <AlNahar> #    VertRefresh     50.0 - 150.0
[01:08] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Not days per-se, but some time, yes.
[01:08] <Codiah> oh, thanks allot. have a good one..
[01:08] <ripper> are there any libs that i need to convert micrsoft office to openoffice corectly some thing are a miss and text is off
[01:08] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: so ubuntu wont work if you comment out those lines?
[01:09] <ripper> works but not perfect text is overlapping
[01:09] <slashjamiec> grobda24: I tried booting ubuntu off a livecd on a 533mhz PC, it took around 30 minutes to get to the desktop.
[01:09] <grobda24> slashjamiec, hmmm, I'm not sure I agree with your approach, if they were running win98 on it. gnome with all the extras turned off should be ok. But no matter.
[01:09] <ripper> any help
[01:09] <soundray> ripper: conversion just isn't perfect
[01:09] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: I'm unsure, read that forum post.
[01:09] <grobda24> slashjamiec, 30 mins is not days !
[01:09] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: i ask because it works for me in another distro when i just comment it out
[01:09] <soundray> ripper: you could check if zamzar does a better job (online file conversion)
[01:09] <ripper> soundray: that what i thought thanx man
[01:10] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Well, you try using gnome on a 233mhz PC :P
[01:10] <grobda24> slashjamiec, yeah your recommended distros may be faster of course.
[01:10] <ripper> soundray: are you here all day man.... lol thanx for the help all day though i greatly appreciate it
[01:10] <BiteMeBill> you can try to comment out the refresh rates in your xorg file just might have to change them in console.
[01:10] <grobda24> slashjamiec, I might have to but an old 486 just to try this :P
[01:11] <grobda24> but = buy
[01:11] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: I'd imagine it isn't required, I'm sure that it would just go back to defaults, yeah. I'm sure those functions in xorg.conf are only used as parameters for custom bootup. Ubuntu installer can do stuff like this sometimes. :P
[01:11] <soundray> !info smartmontools > tabakhase_
[01:12] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Lol, you'll need to read the requirements on running a LiveCD of ubuntu on the ubuntu website. You need 256MB of ram I'd imagine.
[01:12] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: when you are prompted with "input not supported" should i be able to do something to get out of it?
[01:12] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: Restart X maybe? Or revert to a terminal and edit xorg.conf (restarting X is simply ctrl+alt+backspace)
[01:13] <K^Holtz> amit: confirmed.. it all works!!! thanks a lot for your help
[01:13] <grobda24> slashjamiec, seems important seeing that Ubuntu is aimed at low resource users ?
[01:13] <ilovefedora> hi im runing ubuntu server 6.06 and cant get apache to start
[01:13] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Not as low as a 486 for livecd, unfortunately. Maybe if you installed it instead of livecd and then went to fluxbox, then everything would work seamlessly.
[01:14] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Fluxbox is a lightweight window manager, sorry
[01:15] <grobda24> slashjamiec, who mentioned any livecd's ? I see your point though.
[01:15] <sanassar> Hey guys
[01:15] <templaedhel> can someone help me get my 2wire dongle set up?
[01:15] <slashjamiec> grobda24: I'm assuming since you're a new user you'd automatically use the livecd. Sorry.
[01:16] <sanassar> I was able to make a portable version of firefox,thunderbird,seamonkey,and instantbird.
[01:16] <slashjamiec> templaedhel: Yup! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=707972
[01:16] <djhash> templaedhel: you need to be more specific and provide more details..
[01:16] <grobda24> slashjamiec, s'ok.
[01:16] <slashjamiec> templaedhel: Please follow the link I pasted and follow it accordingly.
[01:16] <slashjamiec> grobda24: ok
[01:17] <templaedhel> ﻿slashjamiec: okay
[01:17] <J-a-k-e> Hi all, does anyone know if it's possible to setup a high pass filter & lfe crossover in pulseaudio?
[01:17] <soundray> grobda24: Ubuntu isn't aimed at low-resource users. Not sure where you got that from.
[01:17] <slashjamiec> soundary +1
[01:17] <decker> holas!!
[01:17] <decker> nassss
[01:18] <slashjamiec> decker: English?
[01:18] <decker> not, i'm spaniard
[01:18] <djhash> !sp
[01:18] <djhash> !spanish
[01:18] <decker> thanks!
[01:19] <sanassar> Anyone want to make a portable version of firefox,thunderbird,seamonkey,or instantbird for linux?
[01:19] <cosmodad> isn't there some mobile edition of firefox going on already?
[01:20] <cosmodad> by the mozilla guys...
[01:20] <slashjamiec> yeah im sure there is
[01:20] <Flare183> cosmodad: yeah
[01:20] <grobda24> slashjamiec, I read something about Ubuntu for developing countries somewhere.
[01:20] <Flare183> cosmodad: you mean like for a flash drive?
[01:20] <macGerhard> hi. I just got a clean 7.04 server install, can't seem to find the sources file... shouldn't it be in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:20] <sanassar> It is only one script to setup the portable editio
[01:20] <cosmodad> Flare183: no idea, I just read a headline about some mobile copy of FF the other day.
[01:20] <Flare183> macGerhard: yeap
[01:20] <sanassar> *editition*
[01:21] <macGerhard> Flare183: ok, but that file doesn't exist
[01:21] <Flare183> cosmodad: well goto portableapps.com to find out about portable FF
[01:21] <Flare183> macGerhard: I have no idea what to tell you there, keep asking.
[01:21] <macGerhard> Flare183: there is only /etc/apt/sources.list.d which doesn't contain the actual sources...
[01:21] <macGerhard> k
[01:21] <cosmodad> Flare183: cool link, thanks.
[01:22] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Ubuntu develops everywhere. The name derives from an african word.
[01:22] <Flare183> np
[01:22] <K^Holtz> I just renamed these songs (.ogg) in ubuntu, but when i play them, they still dont recognize a artist, album, or title... is there a program (id3 editer) that will ensure this data is associated w/ every song?
[01:22] <Flare183> umm
[01:22] <mib_lhfac4> Someone know the correct alternative of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?
[01:22] <djhash> macGerhard: what do you get when you type "apt-get update"
[01:22] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: where is xorg.conf on ubuntu?
[01:23] <macGerhard> djhash: Reading package lists... Done
[01:23] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: /etc/xorg.conf
[01:23] <SuperQ> AlNahar: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, not needed for many configurations in 8.04
[01:23] <AlNahar> SuperQ: well, i'm getting an error due to using an lcd, so im not sure what else to do
[01:23] <slashjamiec> SuperQ : He's having issues with vsync on his monitor.
[01:23] <Codiah> hey, back, quick question, is the live cd the same as the regular install cd??
[01:23] <templaedhel> ﻿slashjamiec: the driver files are just text docs. should I "save link as" instead? and where do I put them?
[01:23] <SuperQ> slashjamiec: ahh
[01:23] <grobda24> slashjamiec, well, anyway, we're down to semantics really. I can't find where I read about Ubuntu (the distro) in developing countries now. Interesting discussion. Laters.
[01:23] <SebNaitsabes> Codiah:  the Live CD has the installer on it yes
[01:23] <cosmodad> K^Holtz: not quite sure what you mean and did, but there are apps like easytag which can help you with tagging music files.
[01:24] <Codiah> k thanks again....
[01:24] <Codiah> ciao..
[01:24] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Right. I'm here for Ubuntu Support, not about story telling philosophy's, sorry
[01:24] <djhash> macGerhard: dunno what to tell you.. something prob. went wrong in the install and sources.list didnt get placed properly..
[01:25] <macGerhard> djhash: yep, the web host seems to have screwed the install. couldn't install 8.04, now this. hmmm..
[01:25] <K^Holtz> cosmodad: thanks, ill try that
[01:25] <djhash> macGerhard: how come 8.04 didn't install?
[01:26] <slashjamiec> templaedhel: I want you to go to terminal and type "wget linkhere" where linkhere is the driver link
[01:26] <macGerhard> djhash: incorrect image. have to upgrade all the way from 7.04...
[01:26] <slashjamiec> templaedhel: It tells you all this in the tutorial, read carefully :P
[01:26] <macGerhard> some issues with the 8.04 they had. too "cutting edge" I suppose :D
[01:26] <djhash> macGerhard: can't you get the 8.04 CD image and install it?
[01:26] <mib_lhfac4> Someone know the correct alternative of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?
[01:27] <templaedhel> ﻿slashjamiec: okay
[01:28] <macGerhard> djhash: not in the DC & no access to images. I know it's not ideal upgrading, but my choices is stay with 7.04 or upgrade.
[01:30] <slashjamiec> I love this Fluxbox Theme. Hell yeah I do.
[01:30] <[1]Tony> Is there anyone that could recommend a good Wifi manager that doesn't recquire a whole lot of dependancies for Haron?
[01:30] <[1]Tony> *heron
[01:31] <earthbound01> I'm installing Ubuntu (Hardy Heron) and it's reading my 80gb hdd as  a 40 gb hdd.  Please Help.
[01:32] <Bagualas> is there any way to see shared folders (samba) created by the gnome? like a list or something
[01:32] <_Zeus_> earthbound01: did you use dd?
[01:32] <_Zeus_> !smbfs | Bagualas
[01:32] <_Zeus_> !samba | Bagualas
[01:32] <earthbound01> I'm sorry, I don't know what dd is.  I'm something of a newb.
[01:32] <dr_willis> _Zeus_,  dont forget the fusesmb wiki page. :)
[01:33] <dr_willis> !dd
[01:33] <Bagualas> _Zeus_, is mention there about my question? i know how smb.conf works... I mean in my question about the graphical from gnome
[01:33] <earthbound01> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix) ?
[01:33] <djhash> earthbound01: do you have anything installed in the hard drive?
[01:34] <dr_willis> earthbound01,  dd is a 'data dump' command - with the right ussage - it can do all sorts of usefull things.
[01:34] <_Zeus_> Bagualas: install that first
[01:34] <_Zeus_> then you shoud be able to connect to samba shares
[01:34] <earthbound01> djhash- it had windows a long time ago, and it has an installation of Hardy Heron on it now.
[01:34] <Bagualas> _Zeus_, I already have samba installed, working man
[01:35] <tabakhase___> grr
[01:35] <tabakhase___> lol, smart prints: "Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA!"
[01:35] <tabakhase___> Power on: 1889207 hours xD
[01:35] <Bagualas> just, I made some shares
[01:35] <Bagualas> and want to list then
[01:35] <_Zeus_> Bagualas: i don't know how to list them
[01:35] <templaedhel> ﻿slashjamiec: hey I just used the graphical drive install that came with ndiswrapper. worked like a charm
[01:35] <djhash> earthbound01: are you sure you are looking at the entire drive and not just the partition
[01:35] <templaedhel> thanks
[01:35] <Bagualas> made some shares, by clicking with right button, Share!
[01:35] <dr_willis> the smbclient command i belive can scan/list seen shares..
[01:35] <helpme> I have a question... okay I bought this shuttle PC, and it came with foresight linux... how would I go at installing UBUNTU on here?  this PC DOES NOT have a CD ROM drive, so CAN I install it with a USB hard drive or flash drive or w/e??? pls help
[01:35] <LBIguy> how do i get compiz setup?
[01:35] <_Zeus_> !compiz | LBIguy
[01:35] <earthbound01> I'll put up a screenshot of my problem.
[01:36] <dr_willis> helpme,  check the alternative methods of installing.. Yes you can do it..
[01:36] <djhash> !usb
[01:36] <dr_willis> !install | helpme
[01:36] <slashjamiec> templaedhel: Excellent
[01:36] <slashjamiec> brb phone
[01:36] <helpme> thanks!, also is ubuntu going to be easier to use than a lot of linuxs? im completly new to linux and just want a postgresql server set up :o
[01:37] <michaesaur> how can i tell what a package is being depended on?
[01:37] <SebNaitsabes> yes  Ubuntu is a lot easier to use than many others
[01:37] <djhash> helpme: yes..
[01:37] <SebNaitsabes> the terminal should tell you or you can use the package manager to help with that
[01:37] <michaesaur> djhash: how can i tell what a package is being depended on?
[01:37] <djhash> michaesaur: in synaptic you can get that information
[01:37] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: i am trying to help someone with this problem, they said ls -la /etc/X11/xorg.conf says no such file
[01:37] <michaesaur> okay.
[01:38] <LBIguy> when i go into kmenu settings i dont see desktop effects
[01:39] <dr_willis> helpme,  ubuntu is very easy and focused on useability.  of course you wull proberly have to do some reading on using postgresql thats a bit advanced.
[01:40] <kailiey> I had to patch a kernel.  I followed the instructions from !kernel.  The problem is, once I install it.. everything works great.. EXCEPT... the aptitude upgrade ALWAYS wants to reinstall the kernel*header's... even tho they're the same
[01:40] <earthbound01> I actually can't do a screenshot because I can't use my hard drive right now.
[01:40] <jStefan> I need help getting 5.1 sound, speaker-test seems to work, but when i play a 5.1 source it is down mixed to stereo (but sent to all speakers)
[01:40] <hdz> anyone know of a semi-fun game for ubuntu for d/l through apt or another source that would be worth playing, just for sh*ts n giggles after installing that nvidia driver
[01:41] <mkquist> hey all, anyone have luck getting canon scanners to work in ubuntu?
[01:41] <hdz> heh i had prob w/scanner
[01:41] <groppo> t
[01:41] <cosmodad> kailiey: you sure that kernel Ubuntu seeks to upgrade to isn't of a higher version (maybe just in the late part after the dash)?
[01:41] <hdz> had to make avahi start later
[01:41] <mypup> need help finding file location for conkyrc please
[01:41] <x2o> hi, how can i over or underclock my cpu in my notebook, yes i know about the risks
[01:42] <hdz> sudo updatedb; sudo locate conky
[01:42] <mypup> thanks
[01:42] <earthbound01> but- /dev/sda
[01:42] <earthbound01> free space 38321 MB   (*note, not 80gb)
[01:42] <earthbound01> /dev/sda swap  1686 used 0mb
[01:42] <djhash> earthbound01: type "sudo fdisk -l" and use pastebin to give me the output
[01:42] <kailiey> it keeps wanting to install : linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic
[01:42] <kailiey> and I'm running: Linux smb 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Sep 10 18:13:41 MDT 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:42] <SaraSmith> what's the name of the file you update to change your graphic settings?
[01:42] <cosmodad> kailiey: you used the same name?
[01:42] <hdz> theres a bunch of em
[01:43] <hdz> xorg.conf is a big one
[01:43] <kailiey> Oh I guess I should have named the kernel?  I just cut/pasted what it said to build a generic kernel
[01:43] <SaraSmith> hdz hmm yes..
[01:43] <djhash> earthbound01: that is how much free space is on that disk.. and since you have both windows and ubuntu installed on it.. you'll definately not have an empty drive..
[01:43] <hdz> for what type of grx settings sara
[01:43] <jStefan> I need help getting 5.1 sound, speaker-test plays each speaker individually, but when i play a 5.1 source it is down mixed to stereo and then sent to all speakers
[01:43] <earthbound01> I typed  sudo fdisk/dev/sda
[01:43] <earthbound01> and it said:
[01:43] <earthbound01> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4864.
[01:43] <earthbound01> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[01:43] <earthbound01> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[01:43] <earthbound01> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[01:43] <FloodBot1> earthbound01: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <cosmodad> kailiey: I don't know the instructions say, but I used to label my custom kernels differently to stay unambiguous
[01:44] <kailiey> k thank you
[01:44] <kailiey> i will try that
[01:44] <peller> n00b question: why doesn't the install fit on a CD, and how am I supposed to work around that?
[01:44] <djhash> earthbound01: use pastebin
[01:44] <djhash> !pastebin
[01:44] <hdz> anyone know the dirs i can remove saftely from updating 4 kernels so far, files downloading from regular previous kernels etc
[01:44] <hdz> Linux turtle 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 17:32:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:44] <cosmodad> kailiey: not though that once -20 comes out, Ubuntu will go for the upgrade again. Pin your custom kernel if you don't want that to happen and be aware that you don't catch security updates that way.
[01:44] <jStefan> peller, is it a 700mb cd or 650mb?
[01:45] <cosmodad> kailiey: note though
[01:45] <hdz> how am i SMP with p4?
[01:45] <SaraSmith> hdz i feel like an idiot.. my husband is still having problems with graphics.. in fact it won't load at all.. so if i can go back where we were maybe i messed it up??
[01:45] <peller> jStefan: I only have 650mb.  There are 700mb?
[01:45] <hdz> sara what card does he have
[01:45] <jStefan> peller, yes 700mb exists, and i think it's needed for the ubuntu iso
[01:45] <kailiey> ya?
[01:45] <hdz> actually do /exec -o lspci |grep nvidia -i
[01:45] <earthbound01> pastebin url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45570/
[01:45] <hdz> in irc
[01:45] <dr_willis> peller,  i havent seen a  650mb cd here in the stores in ages...
[01:46] <cosmodad> kailiey: just corrected a typo
[01:46] <^Phantom^> Okay... I'm on the live ubuntu cd
[01:46] <jStefan> hdz, intel's HT uses SMP
[01:46] <hdz> hyperthread jstefan?
[01:46] <jStefan> hdz, yes
[01:46] <peller> dr_willis, jStefan: wow, hard to believe nobody else ran into this. ok, any way for me to get around this problem w/o waiting and buying new CDs tomorrow?  I tried memory stick, but the instructions got me nowhere fast.
[01:47] <SaraSmith> htz it's a GA-MA69GM-S2H
[01:47] <hdz> 2.8ghz v.A uses hyper? damn so it's not dual core really, not multi-cpu but considered SMP?
[01:47] <peller> I'm ashamed to say I'm upgrading from Breezy Badger
[01:47] <SaraSmith> gigabyte hdz
[01:47] <^Phantom^> I want to do a custom partition, and would like some help please.
[01:47] <djhash> earthbound01: its "sudo fdisk -l"  <-- add the -l (lowercase L)
[01:47] <SebNaitsabes> phantom
[01:47] <SebNaitsabes> ok sure
[01:47] <slashjamiec> Alnahar : gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or "gedit /etc/xorg.conf"
[01:47] <SebNaitsabes> pm me
[01:47] <^Phantom^> okay
[01:47] <hdz> sarasmith: the video card is gigabyte?
[01:47] <earthbound01> Sorry.
[01:47] <dr_willis> peller,  no wayt around that i know of.  If you got blank dvds you could download the dvd version i guess.
[01:48] <hdz> qparted phantom
[01:48] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: he can't get to X:)
[01:48] <AlNahar> cant use gedit
[01:48] <hdz> nano
[01:48] <AlNahar> he's going to reinstall with a crt
[01:48] <shadowhywind> hay all, in order to get my wireless card to work (ndiswrapper), I have to restart dbus first? is this normal?
[01:48] <SaraSmith> hdz ATI on board
[01:48] <danielm_mc> vim
[01:48] <hdz> oh
[01:48] <jStefan> hdz, if it's a pentium D it's dual core, but if it's just a pentium 4, it's likely it uses HT
[01:48] <hdz> sara you may need to do the proprietery drivers
[01:48] <hdz> just search for your gfx card on help.ubuntu.com has a walkthru
[01:48] <slashjamiec> Alnahar: Use nano via a terminal then
[01:49] <danielm_mc> vim
[01:49] <peller> jStefan, dr_willis: ok, thanks anyways
[01:49] <hdz> it's p4 1mb cache 533 8kb 16kb
[01:49] <smev81> azureus/vuze cannot find cairo as stated here http://pastebin.com/d7538544a. Why? Can you help me?
[01:49] <solexious> [q] Ive removed with apt-get sendmail but the deamon still starts up when i boot, any ideas why?
[01:49] <sanassar> Hey
[01:49] <sanassar> Anyone need some help
[01:49] <earthbound01> fdisk readout: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45571/
[01:49] <jStefan> hdz, doesn't sound like a dual core pentium to me
[01:49] <jStefan> hdz, just HT
[01:50] <hdz> damn it's cap is 3800mhz when its stuck at 2.8
[01:50] <hdz> yeah
[01:50] <SaraSmith> hdz thank you .. darn this is difficult
[01:50] <hdz> it's just weird a p4, hT
[01:50] <hdz> there's only 3 p4 on intel site that are below 3.2 that are HT
[01:51] <jStefan> hdz, is a desktop or a laptop?
[01:51] <hdz> sara there is much work ahead i dunno about ati but nvidia was a bit of a workthrough
[01:51] <hdz> desktop
[01:51] <hdz> i just did cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:51] <hdz> it's p4
[01:51] <djhash> earthbound01: is ubuntu the only OS installed?
[01:51] <SaraSmith> hdz it's a desktop.
[01:52] <hdz> um
[01:52] <earthbound01> djhash: it should be.  A long time ago this disk had XP on it.
[01:52] <hdz> these ubuntu folks are smart
[01:52] <hdz> like
[01:52] <hdz> must've used slackware back n the day
[01:52] <jStefan> hdz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_4_microprocessors#.22Prescott.22_.2890_nm.29
[01:52] <jStefan> hdz, 4th from prescott list?
[01:52] <arooni> can someone tell me how i can get a microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 to get its back/forward buttons working correctly (in firefox to go back/forward but also in nautilus to navigate folders etc)
[01:53] <djhash> earthbound01: are you sure it is an 80GB HDD? does the bios see it as 80GB?
[01:53] <hdz> imma check jsetefan
[01:53] <Checkmate91> does anyone know how to download an entire website to a local directory preserving links and everything for offline use?
[01:53] <smev81> noone knows :(
[01:54] <djhash> smev81 you might need to compile and install cairo
[01:54] <zhaowm> moring,in China
[01:54] <earthbound01> djhash: This might be a bios problem, you're right.  It says 80gb on the case, and when it had XP it had 80gb too.
[01:54] <tabakhase___> no --force in smartctl -.-
[01:54] <SaraSmith> [20:50:03] <SaraSmith> hdz thank you .. darn this is difficult
[01:54] <SaraSmith> [20:50:03] <hdz> yeah
[01:54] <SaraSmith> [20:50:09] <hdz> it's just weird a p4, hT
[01:54] <SaraSmith> [20:50:33] <hdz> there's only 3 p4 on intel site that are below 3.2 that are HT
[01:54] <SaraSmith> [20:50:35] * Quits: pizzapie (n=chatzill@pool-141-156-243-125.res.east.verizon.net) (Client Quit)
[01:54] <FloodBot1> SaraSmith: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:54] <dr_willis> Checkmate91,  httptrack (or some name similer to that) can do it.. may be other ways also.
[01:54] <SaraSmith> [20:50:59] <jStefan> hdz, is a desktop or a laptop?
[01:54] <smev81> checkmate i buyed a c't last month, which had a tool for your needs.
[01:54] <slashjamiec> I'm unavailable now
[01:54] <earthbound01> djhash: it says 80gb (or the equivalent in bytes) directly on the drive.
[01:55] <arooni> can someone tell me how i can get a microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 to get its back/forward buttons working correctly (in firefox to go back/forward but also in nautilus to navigate folders etc)?  right the back button on mouse = middle button, and forward button = right click.
[01:55] <Checkmate91> dr_willis, thanks I will check it out
[01:55] <arrrghhh> what's the best cli torrent tool?  azureus is awesome because it's so feature rich, but still java takes a lot of processor cycles
[01:55] <djhash> earthbound01: maybe you have lost sectors and filesystems..
[01:55] <djhash> earthbound01: or hidden for that matter..
[01:55] <SaraSmith> i'm sorry.
[01:55] <smev81> compile cairo? i installed it already. Do you think it isnt build for the needs of azureus and i have to rebuild it to ensure?
[01:56] <SaraSmith> vista is frustrating me
[01:56] <jStefan> hdz, according to that list the 2.8A is not HT
[01:56] <Xcerca> what download manager do you guys use with firefox and FlashGot ?  any suggestions ?
[01:56] <arrrghhh> Xcerca, downloadthemall
[01:56] <danbhfive1> arooni  I do it with an xmodmap file
[01:56] <earthbound01> djhash: Hidden is unlikely, I'm the original owner of this drive.
[01:56] <djhash> smev81: you might need to get dev filers..
[01:56] <smev81> i try
[01:57] <hdz> i think that's it
[01:57] <carandraug> Xcerca: I use wget. It's not Firefox extension but it's does what I want
[01:57] <hdz> i know i saved a .gif of the whole thread and it said HT
[01:57] <NoMax> Hello
[01:57] <herenow> Any idea why I would be banned from #apache even though I've never been there?  I don't know where would b a good place to ask this..
[01:57] <hdz> if i do /exec -o uname -asr
[01:57] <hdz> Linux turtle 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 17:32:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:57] <hdz> it wouldn't say SMP if it wasn't HT right?
[01:57] <sooki> okay, i have a question, i've had linux installed for a while. i think it's an ext3 fs, and i have a swap partition, i just dropped an old hd i have in that's formatted to ntfs but doesn't have an os installed on it, and i'm trying to install windows to it, but it's saying it's going to need to reformat the linux partition or something to access the mbr, is there a safe way to install windows to a second drive without damaging my linux i
[01:57] <sooki> nstall?
[01:57] <carandraug> Xcerca: I've heard that Aria2 works with FlashGot and is one of the best out there
[01:57] <jStefan> hdz, not sure
[01:57] <Xcerca> ﻿arrrghhh  cool ,  i'll try it out
[01:58] <rafaelhwm> hello everybody
[01:58] <jStefan> brb, need to reboot...
[01:58] <sooki> and yeah, i know that i'm going to have to replace the bootloader
[01:58] <herenow> how long does it usually take for an install cd to MEMCHeck for 2 gigs?
[01:58] <arrrghhh> sooki, just unplug the linux hdd
[01:58] <hdz> if you install windows it'll overwrite the bootloader, you can use grub afterwards to do dual boot though
[01:58] <Xcerca> so Aria2 and Downthemall are worth checking out...  alright,  peace bros
[01:58] <arrrghhh> herenow, you can let it run forever if you wish
[01:58] <rafaelhwm> im having a problem, i have and usb headset, what can i do to make the speakers and the headset play together?
[01:59] <keith_> Does anyone know how to get evolution to display notifications when not running?
[01:59] <hdz> jsefan: so that is HT?
[01:59] <herenow> arrrghhh: so after I get one pass with no errors I should be ok?
[01:59] <danbhfive> arooni I don't understand the xmodmap file, but I can pastebin mine if you like
[01:59] <NoMax> Can any1 tell me what wifi USB adapter will work in adhoc mode? Asus wl-167g doesn't...
[01:59] <arrrghhh> herenow, normally.  usually if memory is bad memtest fails within the first 30 secs.
[01:59] <sooki> oh yeah, duh, how could i forget that. thanks arrrghhh
[01:59] <arrrghhh> sooki, np :D
[02:00] <hdz> i got my wifi usb to work through ndiswrapper windows driver in ubuntu
[02:00] <sooki> <3
[02:00] <djhash> earthbound01: you can use a utility called "testdisk" to make sure everything is ok.. but it is a very powerful program and used improperly can basically damage your filesystem beyond recovery.. you could ask for help here for someone who knows how to use it.. or read up on it.
[02:00] <NoMax> In adhoc mode?
[02:00] <hdz> well both
[02:00] <arrrghhh> sooki, if you need help settin up grub when you're done installing windows i know how to do that too haha
[02:00] <hdz> all work in adhoc or infrostructure
[02:00] <herenow> I tried to $sudo tasksel remove lamp-server
[02:00] <Xcerca> ﻿arrrghhh with dTa can i remove FlashGot ?
[02:00] <herenow> don't do that
[02:00] <NoMax> Ok I will try ndiswrapper
[02:01] <hdz> look up yer stuff on google card ndiswrapper
[02:01] <arrrghhh> sooki, normally you install windows first and then ubuntu to not worry about grub issues, but with separate hdds it's not that difficult.
[02:01] <NoMax> Thanks
[02:01] <sooki> thanks, i have a kubuntu cd laying around, is there a way to do it off the livecd?
[02:01] <hdz> there's a billion wireless card go-throughs
[02:01] <arrrghhh> Xcerca, i don't use flashgot... so i dunno
[02:01] <earthbound01> thanks djhash.
[02:01] <herenow> is there a way to install from (initramfs)?
[02:01] <sooki> yeah, i've typically always installed windows first, but i've been windows free for a couple of years
[02:02] <hdz> i installed win then ubuntu, works fine
[02:02] <arooni> danbhfive, thanks
[02:02] <sooki> that's the easy way :P
[02:02] <rafaelhwm> im having a problem, i have an usb headset, what can i do to make the speakers and the headset play together the same sound? hope you understand...
[02:02] <herenow> BusyBox... my install cd lead me to busy box instead of the live cd....
[02:02] <arrrghhh> that's the "recommended" way.  but with separate hdds, it's trivial to setup grub.
[02:02] <hdz> not the good way either
[02:02] <hdz> just needed some drivers from win for my wifi and printer
[02:02] <NoMax> Should the adapter be plugged in when u install ndiswrapper???
[02:02] <hdz> no
[02:03] <arrrghhh> herenow, that means your system doesn't like the livecd.  have you tried the alternate or "minimal" install cd?
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> what?
[02:03] <hdz> don't plug it in til the end
[02:03] <NoMax> Ok thx
[02:03] <danbhfive> NoMax: Im not sure it matters, Ive always had it plugged in
[02:03]  * Daisuke_Ido facepalms
[02:03] <arrrghhh> herenow, sorry alternate cd and minimal cd are separate discs entirely, didn't mean to make them sound like the same disc.
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> further and further down the spiral
[02:03] <hdz> you'll need the .sys and .inf files from win for your adapter then install them and copy them from ndiswrapper binary then you will plug in reboot all should go well
[02:04] <hdz> you should really look at a walkthrough
[02:04] <NoMax> I'll give it a try .... Be back if not working ;-)
[02:04] <hdz> like google to make sure there's a need for ndiswrapper first
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> rebooting isn't always necessary, i wish people would quit assuming this is windows lite
[02:04] <herenow> arrrghhh: so there is nothing I can do to install or format hd from busybox?
[02:05] <hdz> um with my wusb54gs there was a need one time, ya know linux supposed to be win-free but i needed to mod a driver to work with ubuntu
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> hdz: occassionally it's necessary
[02:05] <Aquahallic> what's a good virus scanner to use with ubuntu.. I used AVG when I had winblows
[02:05] <arrrghhh> herenow, there probably is, but i don't know how.
[02:05] <hdz> same with nvidia
[02:05] <NoMax> It works in infrastructure mode but not adhoc...I get operation not permitted when brnging up adhoc mode
[02:05] <carandraug> hdz: you got your wusb54gs working without ndiswrapper?
[02:05] <danbhfive> !virus > Aquahallic
[02:05] <hdz> other then that, not really
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> hdz: wasn't referring to you in particular, just the mentality of "oh, i changed something, i'd better reboot"
[02:05] <arrrghhh> Aquahallic, that's the thing... you don't need a virus scanner.  there's clamav, but that's mostly if you're using linux as a mailserver sending mail to winblows machines
[02:05] <hdz> carandraug: no i don't see how it would work without ndiswrapper
[02:06] <arrrghhh> !virus
[02:06] <kavelot> is there a way to install QT 4.4.* using apt-get?
[02:06] <Daisuke_Ido> err...
[02:06] <hdz> daisuke_ido: yeah i don't want ppl to think that either, if they do then they should try slackware out for a bit
[02:06] <Daisuke_Ido> i believe 4.4 is in hardy-backports
[02:07] <carandraug> hdz: oh, ok. It seemmed to me you did said that, and then I was interested. Also, I think it's necessary to blacklist some modules for ndiswrapper.At least I needed to do that.
[02:07] <hdz> linux isn't attacked with virus's like a closed source system
[02:07] <kavelot> gonna check, thanks
[02:07] <hdz> no i don't think blacklist is needed at all
[02:07] <jtmoney> hey guys, i apt-get purged samba, rm -rf'd /etc/samba, and i'm trying to apt-get install samba and it's not installing smb.conf, etc. how do i get these files back?
[02:08] <hdz> developers of linksys could care less really
[02:08] <kaell> how do i specify a port to connect to on a server in xchat?  when i do /server moo 1234 it works.... but when i enter "moo 1234" in for a server it says invalid server
[02:08] <simester>  I'm new to Linux/Ubuntu and I just installed 8.04, my wireless card is recognized, but a wireless connection (which I have) cannot be found. My only choices are "Wired Connection" and "Point to Point Connection". Help...please?
[02:08] <hdz> they'll make one for a popular router, not an access point
[02:08] <NoMax> De-wrt rules
[02:08] <hdz> simester: google for your (card) and ndiswrapper
[02:09] <carandraug> simester: tried to run "iwconfig scan" in a terminal?
[02:10] <[1]Tony> tony
[02:10] <carandraug> hdz: yeah. Specially because few people make a fuss about it since it works with ndiswrapper
[02:10] <simester> My card (in the Hardware Drivers screen) is Atheros 802.11. Is that the term I should Google or am I looking for another manufacturer name?
[02:10] <[1]Tony> Is there anyone that could recommend a good Wifi manager that doesn't recquire a whole lot of dependancies for Heron?
[02:10] <bullgard4> In dmesg  in the identifier 'ata2.00' what does  "2" and "00" stand for? (see for example https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+questions/31411)
[02:10] <hdz> bus id
[02:11] <^Phantom^> actually
[02:11] <hdz> simester try atheros usb (version) ndiswrapper
[02:11] <seedbox> hey can someone help me make a init.d script to start a process on startup
[02:11] <hdz> or just go to help.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <hdz> man nice
[02:11] <EnjoyMe> install google chrome on ubuntu -> http://www.shawncassick.com
[02:12] <[1]Tony> anyone?
[02:12] <miyako> hello
[02:12] <^Phantom^> I have a stuck window
[02:12] <carandraug> simester: you can make sure with "lshw -C network"
[02:12] <hdz> hey enjoyme: you try chome?
[02:12] <[1]Tony> i've tried gtkwifi but it's a pain in the ass to install the dependencies because i don't have an internet connection to this computer that isn't wireless
[02:12] <^Phantom^> I accidentally pressed space when the install window showed up
[02:12] <^Phantom^> and now the "Abort the installation?" Window is stuck
[02:12] <^Phantom^> I can't "cancel" or "quit"
[02:13] <simester> HDZ, sorry for uber-newbie ignorance. Is Atheros USB NDISWRAPPER software I should download? I did a search and instructions came up for prev versions (FF, GG). Would that work?
[02:13] <dr_willis> ^Phantom^,  try the tab key?
[02:13] <cocotico> wat can i do installing but its geting stuck with the sawp partition
[02:13] <seedbox> hey can someone help me make a init.d script to start a process on startup
[02:14] <dr_willis> seedbox,  depending on the task. You may just want to launch it from /etc/rc.local
[02:14] <^Phantom^> I push the button and the window just stays there
[02:14] <^Phantom^> They're like dead buttons...
[02:14] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: you could set up your wifi network with simple comand-line tools, and once you managed that, install gtkwifi off the Internet.
[02:14] <carandraug> simester: most likely they will work. I still follow instructions from 6.10 to install mine with ndiswrapper
[02:14] <seedbox> well basically i have process that wants a admin password when it starts up with this program...i want the process to start up with root priv dr willis
[02:15] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: if you can afford to run an unsecured or WEP-network (basically the same) for a really short while, it's just a few steps.
[02:15] <simester> carandraug: I ran that and got info spit back. I dont know how to interpret it, though.
[02:15] <herenow> you can't get a text install from a desktop livecd?
[02:15] <dr_willis> herenow,  last i looked.. No you cant.
[02:15] <kavelot> should I find problems installing QT 4.4 from hardy-backports on gutsy?
[02:16] <dr_willis> herenow,  the dvd version i think can do both
[02:16] <yates> has anyone had luck with the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics touchpad driver?
[02:16] <^Phantom^> desktop livecd?
[02:16] <Aquahallic> danbhfive: ty!.. nice read.. makes sense too...;)
[02:16] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: I have the drivers wrapped with ndiswrapper, the ubuntu wireless manager doens't detect my network though
[02:16] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: I've had this problem before and i remember having to get a different wireless manager
[02:16] <carandraug> simester: search for lines with something like Description or Product
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> yates: i've used synaptics to just disable my touchpad.. i guess youc ould say thats luck..lol
[02:16] <crazyl> greetings all, does anyone know if it is possible to install Ubuntu 8.04.1 on a Dell Inspiron 518?
[02:16] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: what card/wifi chip have you got?
[02:17] <herenow> man, I rode a motorcycle 40 miles round trip to get this disk just to get busybox
[02:17] <^Phantom^> is there a livecd I need to get, a separate one, for a laptop?
[02:17] <seedbox> dr_willis: how would i launch it from /etc/rc.local
[02:17] <yates> IndyGunFreak: the psmouse driver is buggy - shuts off "double-tap-and-hold to drag" very frequently - i heard the synaptics driver fixes this
[02:17] <rellis> I have a binary (liblouis lt-xml2brl) that was compiled on Ubuntu 32bit and will not run on a Ubuntu 64bit install on an AMD Phenom system.. should this be expected?
[02:17] <seedbox> can i PM you dr_willis
[02:17] <crdlb> kavelot: hardy-backports contains backports for hardy not from hardy
[02:17] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: It's a Motorola Wireless PCI Adapter WPCI810G
[02:17] <herenow> how about recovering a totally messed up system where dpkg and apt-get are buggy?
[02:17] <rellis> The binary returns "No such file or directory" when executed.
[02:17] <simester> carndraug: Description: Ethernet contoller  /  Product: AR5413 802.11abg NIC
[02:17] <dr_willis> seedbox,  rc.local is just a script with commands that get ran at boot time.. very simple..  put in the path to the command, it will get ran as root when booting
[02:18] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: so you have the driver working with ndiswrapper?
[02:18] <^Phantom^> Do I need to get a special live cd for laptops?
[02:18] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Yeah, it says it's installed.  ifconfig showed a wlan0 device
[02:18] <jrib> ^Phantom^: no
[02:19] <HostMark> Hi all
[02:19] <HostMark> I am in charge of the room here
[02:19] <HostMark> Please chat nicely
[02:19] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: can you ping some inet host?
[02:19] <goulde> hey guys
[02:19] <jrib> HostMark: do you have a question about ubuntu support?
[02:19] <HostMark> or you will be removed by HostMark
[02:19] <HostMark> Hi jrib nice to meet you :)
[02:19] <yates> if i install the synaptics driver, do i have to do something to uninstall the psmouse driver?
[02:19] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: No because I can't connect to my wireless network
[02:20] <HostMark> I am the chat room Moderater for Ubuntu Network
[02:20] <jrib> HostMark: please stay on topic here.  Everything that's not about ubuntu support belongs in #ubuntu-offtopci
[02:20] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: does AP association work?
[02:20] <crazyl> so no one had any experience with Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 518?
[02:20] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: iwconfig will tell you.
[02:20] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: It doens't show up in the ubuntu wifi manager, I tried putting the stuff in manually too and no luck
[02:20] <jrib> HostMark: #ubuntu-offtopic even
[02:20] <HostMark> jrib, Please stop disrupting the room and quit harrasing me, thanks :)
[02:20] <goulde> here's my problem:  I'm very used to ubuntu and especially ubuntu on laptops.  However, I wanted to check out Ubuntu Studio and I've got it on my laptop now.  Problem is, the support for wireless networking stinks.  I want to have it work like ubuntu does where it's got that network switcher/detecor in the upper right.  I'm trying to get wifi radar to work but it sucks when you have something that won't automatically detect encryption
[02:20] <goulde> types
[02:20] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Correction iwconfig showed wlan0, ifconfig did not
[02:21] <goulde> does anyone know what the name of that "applet" they're using in ubuntu 8.04 is so I can install it on ubuntu studio
[02:21] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: what's your network's encryption type, WEP or WPA?
[02:22] <^Phantom^> I want to manually configure my partitions, giving linux 12gb and leaving the rest for Windows, which is alread installed
[02:22] <hdz-> wierd
[02:22] <dr_willis> ^Phantom^,  this is windows XP or vista?
[02:22] <hdz-> thats what i did phantom
[02:22] <goulde_> hey guys
[02:22] <^Phantom^> May I please get guidance
[02:22] <^Phantom^> XP
[02:22] <^Phantom^> (i dislike Vista)
[02:22] <simester> Carandraug: It says "Description: Ethernet contoller  /  Product: AR5413 802.11abg NIC"
[02:23] <hdz-> just do the guided thing and size it
[02:23] <hdz-> it'll work fine
[02:23] <balrog> how do i change the default handler for pdfs?  right now, gedit tries (and fails) to open all my pdfs...
[02:23] <dr_willis> ^Phantom^,  i normally use the gparted live cd, boot it, use gparted tor esize the windows partition smaller, leaving a spot of the HD unallocated at the end.
[02:23] <cocotico> im seting py dell inspiron 6000 and it ge frosen with the partition swap
[02:23] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: I'm not sure, I do know that there's no security on it
[02:23] <hdz-> anyone else have hald running
[02:23] <jrib> !defaultapp > balrog
[02:23] <goulde_> I'm running Ubuntu Studio and I'm much more used to Ubuntu 8.04LTS.  I just want to see if I can get the awesome wireless/networking switcher that normal ubuntu uses and install it on here.  Ubuntu studio sort of sucks at connecting to wireless networks.  I like how the built in one for ubuntu scans for networks and detects encruption types.
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> simester: thats an atheros device, you shoudl be able to use madwifi w/ it pretty easily
[02:23] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: then it should be quite easy to get you hooked up by a bunch of CLI commands.
[02:23] <dr_willis> ^Phantom^,  if you were using vista. you could use the vista resize tool. and get this task done in about 1/4 of the time..  :) ive herd to NOT use gparted on a vista install. (jiust somthing to rember)
[02:24] <simester> IndyGunFreak: I'm BRAND new to this. Is that part of Ubuntu or somethng I download?
[02:24] <hdz-> they all come down to regular scripts man
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> simester: something you need to download, hang on
[02:24] <simester> k
[02:24] <balrog> jrib: thanks, i didnt see that...
[02:24] <balrog> jrib: heh, works
[02:24] <hdz-> who said they instal ndiswrapper
[02:25] <herenow> does ubuntu-desktop automatically come with postgresql?
[02:25] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: What commands do I need to run?
[02:25] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: first, do this: sudo iwconfig wlan0 key off
[02:25] <carandraug> simester: "AR5413" that's the chip inside your wireless adaptor
[02:25] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: I'm assuming wlan0 is your wifi device.
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> simester: actually, i stand corrected, it looks ilke that device might have some issues w/ ubuntu
[02:25] <hdz-> it has an sql you can install from cd or orig on cd, doesn't install on startup orig
[02:26] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: next: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "YourNetworkName"
[02:26] <hdz-> with regular ubuntu install and wifi if device not supported you copy usb8023.sys and the inf file for the driver with ndiswrapper to get it going just google
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> simester: check out post #3, that might help...  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778726
 Nice. Way to kick off the switch. I also have a Linksys Wireless-G w/ SpeedBooster card, but I had the same problem.
[02:26] <hdz-> oh
[02:26] <hdz-> i have that card
[02:26] <hdz-> running it now
[02:26] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Is that it?
[02:27] <hdz-> wusb54gs
[02:27] <noah> how can i restore my /etc/apt/sources.list to the default, canonical one in gutsy?
[02:27] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: that's the wifi part, now you need to assign an IP.
[02:27] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: better yet, do you use DHCP?
[02:27] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Yes I do
[02:27] <^Phantom^> I want to use about 12gigs of my ntfs partition for ubuntu
[02:27] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: first, tell me if iwconfig wlan0 indicates that you have associated successfully.
[02:27] <jrib> noah: system -> administration -> sources
[02:28] <dottedquad> I'm reading how to mount a hfs+ partion and understand the steps.   How do I find a device name of my external usb hard drive?
[02:28] <noah> jrib: hmmm... this is a server that i only have command line access on
[02:28] <hdz-> sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[02:28] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Well.. I'm kind of in Windows right now lol.. Let's assume that it does what would I do next to have DHCP assign an IP?
[02:28] <jrib> noah: :/
[02:29] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: before you try DHCP, you should make sure that the card works in managed mode using: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
[02:29] <jrib> noah: just give yourself hardy, -updates, and -security for main, restricted, universe, and multiverse
[02:30] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: finally, you'd try: sudo dhclient wlan0 (and pray :) )
[02:30] <simester> IndyGunFreak: Do you think  a Linksys Wireless-G w/ SpeedBooster card may work better?
[02:30] <jrib> noah: omit anything you don't want.  Even though universe and multiverse are not enabled by default, most people enable them
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> simester: dunno to be truthful
[02:30] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Alright, I'm gonna boot up Ubuntu and try that, Thanks!
[02:30] <miyako> damn small linux doesn't seem to have been updated in a long time
[02:30] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: hold on
[02:30] <c_lisp> im trying to test my cron tab so I put this in it   0 * * * * /usr/bin/gedit  but its not load gedit at all anybody can help me?
[02:30] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Alright
[02:30] <jrib> !cron > c_lisp
[02:31] <jrib> c_lisp: read about gui apps there
[02:31] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: if dhclient won't allow you to request an IP, you might need to do another "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" first.
[02:31] <dottedquad85> How do i find my external usb device name so i can mount the hfs+ partition?
[02:31] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Alrighty
[02:31] <Ferry> If I have ubuntu already installed, but would also like to have a windows dual boot added on, what would be the best way to do that
[02:31] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: that's all. Good luck!
[02:31] <dottedquad85> i opened up gparted and it didn't find it
[02:31] <c_lisp> ty
[02:31] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Thanks!
[02:31] <jigp> hello is there any site for shortcut keys for ubuntu desktop 8.04?
[02:31] <ScheissDrogen> ﻿dottedquad85: sudo fdisk-l
[02:32] <dottedquad85> thx i'll give that a shot
[02:32] <usser> c_lisp, i think that 0 has to be a 1 to run it every minute
[02:32] <GamingX> Ferry: I dunno if this is the best option, but I would opt for a Virtual Machine for Windows.
[02:32] <simester> ok, thx anyway!
[02:33] <vock> I have a question about OpenSSH: I found my rsa and dsa keys, but it says on the community docs "opening the file .ssh/authorized_keys". I don't have that file, are you supposed to make it?
[02:33] <jrib> noah: do you understand what you need to do?
[02:33] <acyclic_graph> hey. I have a permissions problem, I think. All of a sudden I can't edit files on my external HDD. Can anyone help?
[02:33] <GamingX> Ferry: i.e if you have the resources.
[02:33] <jrib> acyclic_graph: what filesystem?
[02:33] <acyclic_graph> vfat
[02:33] <acyclic_graph> fat32
[02:33] <usser> Ferry, or put windows on an external hdd and use bios to choose boot device
[02:33] <noah> jrib: more or less
[02:33] <jrib> acyclic_graph: did you set anything up in fstab?
[02:33] <adude> is there a way to turn compiz on and off easily and have it remember my settings?
[02:33] <Ferry> gamingx what kind of resources would I need
[02:33] <jrib> noah: if you're not sure, I don't mind looking it over if you pastebin when you are done
[02:33] <c_lisp> in man it says 0 to 59
[02:33] <bastid_raZor> vock; can you give me the link you're using?
[02:33] <noah> jrib: i managed to find what i was looking for tho
[02:33] <ScheissDrogen> ﻿acyclic_graph:pm me , if you want
[02:34] <acyclic_graph> I didn't, it's been mounting fine for months and this is the first time this has happened
[02:34] <ScheissDrogen> pm, damn
[02:34] <vock> bastid_raZor:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[02:34] <noah> jrib: on a machine i had upgraded to hardy, it was there in /etc/apt/sources.list.save
[02:34] <GamingX> Ferry: I meant system hardware resources to allocate to Windows so that both Ubuntu and Windows can run at a time.
[02:34] <rafaelhwm> hello
[02:34] <rafaelhwm> im having a problem with my usb headset, can somebody help me?
[02:34] <saik0> how do i get the full path of a bin thats someplace in the PATH
[02:34] <usser> c_lisp, yea thats minutes 0 * * * * * in this case means run a command every 0th minute
[02:35] <Ferry> gamingx oh, yeah my comp has been a bit buggy lately, and all I really want windows for is gaming
[02:35] <jrib> saik0: which some_bin_here
[02:35] <GamingX> Ferry: If you want it for gaming, then I VM wouldn't be a good idea.
[02:35] <saik0> jrib, thanks couldint remember for that for some reasomn
[02:35] <GamingX> Ferry: Dual-Booting would be an option then.
[02:35] <^Phantom^> would i be better off partitioning from within windows?
[02:36] <Ferry> Gamingx I know I need to make a separate partition, but all the resources I seem to find are for setting up a dual boot from a clean reformat
[02:36] <seid> join #c
[02:36] <janek64> Enter text here...witaj
[02:36] <bastid_raZor> vock; have you installed openssh-server and openssh-client ?
[02:37] <carandraug> ^Phantom^: to install ubuntu and dual-boot? I think it's better to formate with Ubuntu CD
[02:38] <GamingX> Ferry: Though I've never tried installing Windows after Ubuntu, (I've done it the other way round) but heres a tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395185&p=2388318
[02:38] <vock> bastid_raZor: yeah
[02:38] <Drk_Guy> Hi!
[02:38] <seedbox> dr_willis: adding to local.rs worked i think but now the program i added to sessions-startup wont start up on startup anymore?
[02:38] <_Zeus_1> !hi
[02:38] <dvlper> hi all
[02:38] <Drk_Guy> lol
[02:38] <usser> c_lisp, sorry my bad your crontab means run every hour use /5 to specify interval ie */2 * * * * * should run every two minutes
[02:38] <^Phantom^> i want to keep my current partitions intact and my windows install as it is
[02:39] <dvlper> I have a question about sourcing kernel
[02:39] <dvlper> ?
[02:39] <Drk_Guy> !wubi | ^Phantom^
[02:39] <Ferry> gamingx thank you for your help.
[02:39] <dvlper> anyone would help me figure it out
[02:39] <Drk_Guy> !kernel | dvlper
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ Wubi is not the best long term solution
[02:39] <SubOne> When a window needs my attention it flashes. Is there any way to make this flashing more prominent with the human theme? I am constantly missing IMs because I didn't see them
[02:39] <carandraug> ^Phantom^: just be careful when installing Ubuntu. You can create the partitions for Ubuntu from within windows because they have to be as ext3 and whatever for swap
[02:40] <herenow> wow, this apt does ave super cow powers
[02:40] <dvlper> I want to understand I have typed apt-get source linux
[02:40] <GamingX> Ferry: I can't guarantee it to work, you can try though. Also read up the whole thread.
[02:40] <Syco54645_AAO> why would it be that after using my laptop for a bit nautilus will freeze then when i kill it i cannot reopen it (doesnt give an error, just hangs) along with gnome-terminal.  that just hangs as well
[02:40] <Drk_Guy> herenow, super cow --> root user ;)
[02:40] <SebNaitsabes> Ferry: see my pm
[02:40] <dvlper> but the files I got
[02:40] <^Phantom^> If i format the drive i'll lose the system recovery and system restore utilities provided with the laptop
[02:41] <SebNaitsabes> Phanton
[02:41] <SebNaitsabes> wubi
[02:41] <SebNaitsabes> or virtual machine in Windows
[02:41] <billy_> hi. i have a problem with my firefox. im on an ubuntu machine, and when im on a webpage, say msn.com, then when I open a new tab, the address bar does change to blank one but rahter keeps msn.com. anyone know how to fix this? it works fine when i run it from root (sudo firefox).
[02:41] <Syco54645_AAO> and there went the gnome panels as well
[02:41] <billy_> doesnt* change
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> dvlper What are you trying to do.. that isnt even close
[02:41] <dvlper> I want to compile e kernel
[02:41] <dvlper> from source
[02:41] <Ferry> gamingx I always look before I leap, no reason to risk everything
[02:41] <seedbox> is there an alternate way for a prog to start on startup then going to sessions startup and adding it
[02:42] <_Zeus_1> billy_: move your ~/.mozilla directory to ~/.mozilla_bak and see if that fixes it
[02:42] <RickZilla> Hi gang, I just downloaded the ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso file and saved it to my computer.  Do I put it on a cd-rom and run it from there, or what?  I was hoping to create a Live CD to try out ubuntu before installing it onto a machine.
[02:42] <herenow> so how clean will my broken system (boot to command-line, fix apt with install -f) after $sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ you can shrink the existing windows partition and add an ext3 and swap to the unallocated space
[02:42] <carandraug> ^Phantom^: can't you backup your system as it is with those utilities?
[02:42] <Rabbitbunny> dvlper: the enter key is not puncuation. type your replies on a single line.
[02:42] <GamingX> Ferry: Fine then, and good luck :)
[02:42] <dvlper> ok
[02:42] <herenow> apt can not remove anything that was built from source, eh?
[02:42] <carandraug> ^Phantom^: you can also do what Jack_Sparrow said and resize the partition. I've heard it's a lot safer nowadays
[02:42] <Drk_Guy> herenow, no
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> dvlper /join #Kernel
[02:42] <dvlper> thanks
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ USe a windows tool like partition magic for that matter
[02:43] <herenow> how does the package manager interact with things that are built from source example=postgresql
[02:43] <^Phantom^> can i resize the partition from on the livecd and keep the windows installation intact and bootable?
[02:43] <billy_> _Zeus_1, thanks, worked perfectly
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> dvlper np
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> herenow It handles packages.. not things built from source
[02:44] <carandraug> RickZilla: ueah. Burn the iso into a CD and boot from it. If you want to install with Wubi you can just insert the CD when already in widnows
[02:44] <Drk_Guy> herenow, everything apt downloads is precompiled, if you want to compiled off everything by yourself, with optimizations for your hardware, then use Gentoo
[02:44] <^Phantom^> Jack_Sparrow, should I boot into windows before I resize the partitions?
[02:44] <^Phantom^> Also, I have 1.41 gb unpartitioned...
[02:44] <herenow> Jack_Sparrow: what if you have redundancies... can you point me documentation about some conf files and how paths are defined and some basics like that?
[02:44] <RickZilla> carandraug:  I just burned it onto a cd...when I try to open it, my Roxio cd creator utility tries to open it up
[02:44] <RickZilla> Not even sure how to run it from cd right now
[02:44] <bastid_raZor> vock; have you connected to any where with ssh? it is autogenerated once you actually connect to someplace.
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ You can use the Ubuntu installer to make the partitions you need, but in your case we are going to hit the 4 primary partition limit
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> herenow not right now no
[02:45] <carandraug> RickZilla: I never used Wubi. But to test it as liveCD, restart the PC with the CD in there. If you come back to windows, go change the boot order in your BIOS
[02:45] <carandraug> RickZilla: you know how to change the boot order in the BIOS?
[02:46] <vock> bastid_raZor: I haven't connected anywhere yet, I have another computer I wanted to ssh into, don't you have to share the key somehow?
[02:46] <RickZilla> Yeah...F8 on powerup, right?
[02:46] <herenow> can gentoo get compilers/interpreters with a package manager :P ?
[02:46] <vock> bastid_raZor: and after get the key, load it into .ssh/authorized_keys ?
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ You get around the limit by created an extended partition and creating logical partitions on the single extended
[02:46] <carandraug> RickZilla: it changes from computer from computer I guess. But yeah!
[02:46] <^Phantom^> Jack_Sparrow, I'll only be putting ubuntu on it.
[02:46] <michaesaur> you must be kidding.  there's a million scripts out there!!
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ before you do anything.. you need to defrag your windows system.. twice
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ok
[02:47] <SubOne> anyone hear my question about panel flashing?
[02:47] <RickZilla> carandraug:  I'll try that first...thanks for your help
[02:47] <Damin> Hey guys..
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !seperatehome
[02:47] <strategy> How do i find out what my IP address is?
[02:47] <usser> strange, ifconfig
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ Let me give you a link on making a seperate /home
[02:47] <strategy> thanks usser
[02:47] <Damin> Trying to get the word out about Ohio Linuxfest.. Jono Bacon is keynoting, so we're trying to get as many people to pass this along as possible..
[02:48] <Damin> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ohio_LinuxFest_2008
[02:48] <^Phantom^> Will I need to be in windows for this?
[02:48] <^Phantom^> I'm livecd now...
[02:48] <Damin> Please digg that and get it out to your LOCO teams / LUGS etc..
[02:48] <SebNaitsabes> Ferry | Grub
[02:48] <michaesaur> Damin: money people as possible?
[02:48] <SebNaitsabes> !Grub  | Ferry
[02:48] <Damin> michaesaur: Sorry.. as "many" people as possible! :)
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[02:49] <saik0> do backgrounded process continue if you exit the shell
[02:49] <^Phantom^> I already defragmented once today...
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ That will make your life easier in the long run
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ as long as you defragged you should be fine..   go into partition editor
[02:49] <Tina> hi I'm Tina.
[02:50] <khin> hey i just installed ubuntu hardy but i can't seem to find xchat in the repos. do i need to add some weird repos or something for this?
[02:50] <mandark> can anyone tell me how to update only a particular package
[02:50] <^Phantom^> I also deleted like 60 gigs of junk after I did that :D
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !info xchat
[02:51] <khin> but universe is enabled and its not there
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> mandark DO you mean to a version newer than in our repos
[02:51] <mandark> Jack_Sparrow; ya
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> khin sudo apt-get update
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> mandark find a deb or build it yourself
[02:51] <magbuntu> so, i've got an odd question... is there a way i can get irc in a transparent window..  essentially i want no window at all.. just text on my desktop..
[02:51] <magbuntu> ??
[02:51] <Bsims> Hrm does the server not allow /list #ubu*?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Bsims correct
[02:52] <mandark> Jack_Sparrow; i wanted 2 update only wine package..can u tell me how
[02:52] <Bsims> magbuntu: I've seen consoles embeded into a background
[02:52] <^Phantom^> Why is it so important to defrag in windows?  (I'm curious)
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> mandark /join #winehq
[02:52] <Bsims> Jack_Sparrow: so how does one search it?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ because you are going to resize the Windows partition.
[02:52] <magbuntu> Bsims: ah, .. so i'd have to get like irsii or something? and use the console to do that?
[02:53] <Bsims> ^Phantom^: less important with ntfs but it moves all the freespace together
[02:53] <carandraug> Bsims: there's a list of them here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:53] <Bsims> magbuntu: yeah its what I'd do
[02:53] <magbuntu> Bsims: marvelous, thanks.
[02:53] <Bsims> thanks magbuntu
[02:53] <mandark> Jack_Sparrow; not many ppl ther 2 answer
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Bsims Sorry to busy atm and I need to go to dinner.  THe wife is giving me that look
[02:53] <bastid_raZor> vock; a key is autogenerated once you make a ocnnection.
[02:53] <Bsims> er carandraug
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> mandark that is your only optiuon
[02:53] <Bsims> magbuntu: I am typing this in a full page terminal but its not the background
[02:53] <manu__> HI
[02:54] <dottedquad85> I unplugged and plugged the external drive back in and ubuntu ended up find and auto mounting it for me :-)
[02:54] <^Phantom^> should i redefrag since I deleted the data AFTER I defragmented?
[02:54] <magnatop> Bsims: i understand... you've given me a good start tho :)  thanks.
[02:54] <Bsims> magnatop: I really like irssi for a terminal client
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ absolutely
[02:54] <ScheissDrogen> ﻿ dottedquad85:so youre fine ?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ deleting those files after blew all sorts of holes in your windows side
[02:54] <Bsims> magnatop: also apt-get install screen, its basicaly tabs for the terminal and you can disconnect the window and have it still running
[02:55] <vock> bastid_raZor: So you just make the connection using the root password for a linux box? that seems kinda unsecure
[02:55] <dottedquad85> SchiessDrogen: yes I am
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ I dont mean to leave you..  You should find plenty of competent help here.
[02:55] <^Phantom^> jaakkome
[02:55] <^Phantom^> Jack_Sparrow
[02:55] <^Phantom^> before you go
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:55] <bastid_raZor> vock; no, use your user password on the box you're connecting to. you will need to have a user already set up on the box you are connecting to.
[02:55] <carandraug> Bsims: magnatop: it's also more than a terminal with tabs. You can split a terminal window into two. Really, really handy
[02:56] <magnatop> nice.
[02:56] <magnatop> i'll look into that.
[02:56] <^Phantom^> should I just virtualbox install ubuntu in windows?
[02:56] <Bsims> carandraug: indeed never used it that way but last time I egosurfed some dude in china was using my config file
[02:56] <magnatop> today is my first day having a linux install.. old box.. so i'm learning :)
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[02:56] <bastid_raZor> vock; with Ubuntu you can not use the root password anyways... unless you've set one and that is bad.
[02:56]  * Bsims needs to throw it back up to the new webpace
[02:56] <magnatop> why won't it let me apt-get?
[02:56] <magnatop> ...
[02:56] <Bsims> magnatop: sudo apt-get
[02:57] <vock> bastid_raZor: isn't root password the same as user password?
[02:57] <carandraug> Bsims: I've heard there's a patch to split it vertically as well but I never used it myself
[02:57] <magnatop> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntubox
[02:57] <magnatop> Oo
[02:57] <Bsims> heh wierd
[02:57] <Bsims> Oh new slrn version out
[02:57] <Bsims> magnatop: on a default install?
[02:57] <vock> bastid_razor: don't you use the user password to get root priveliges?
[02:57] <magnatop> yes.
[02:57] <bastid_raZor> vock; the root account password is not the same no, you being in the admin group gives you root privledges
[02:58] <magnatop> hmm..
[02:58] <Bsims> magnatop: do me a favor less /etc/hostname and tell me what it says
[02:58] <magnatop> ubuntubox
[02:58] <Bsims> Hrm thats right then
[02:58] <carandraug> magnatop: what error does it give you when you try apt-get install?
[02:59] <magnatop> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:59] <magnatop> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:59] <Strav> he. I'm experiencing suspend problems since kernel 2.6.24 (most probably due/linked to the change from proc/acpi to sys/acpi)... When resuming from suspend, it seems that the system do resume but my video card (ati radeon mobility 7500) goes beserk. I thought it might be the framebuffer drivers I had activated but blacklisting them won't solve the problem. Any suggestion?
[02:59] <strategy> magnatop, 'sudo apt-get install .....'
[02:59] <carandraug> magnatop: "sudo apt-get install nameofpackage"
[02:59] <Bsims> and its sudo, and you don't have synaptic or anything else up
[02:59] <magnatop> hehe
[02:59] <magnatop> oh
[02:59] <strategy> magnatop, you must be root to do administrative stuff. You ever used vista? sudo is the equiveant of "run as administrator"
[03:00] <Bsims> magnatop: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:00] <Bsims> synaptic is a nice gui for apt
[03:00] <magnatop> oh
[03:00] <magnatop> haha
[03:00] <magnatop> there it goes :)
[03:00] <strategy> magnatop, "sudo ..command.." runs "..command.." with administrative privelages
[03:00] <Strav> btw any news on the gui for aptitude? (was on google summer of code if I'm right)
[03:00] <magnatop> strategy: gotcha
[03:00] <Bsims> magnatop: want me to tell you the most important command for linux?
[03:00] <vock> bastid_razor: So if i set up my ssh badly, and someone can log into my only user at the moment, then they are in the admin group and since they know my user pwd, they can use that to gain root priv?
[03:01] <magnatop> Bsims: yes :)
[03:01] <Bsims> magnatop: man man its the manual for the manual system
[03:01] <magnatop> lol
[03:01] <Bsims> Heh you laugh, saved my butt before
[03:01] <magnatop> Bsims: thanks :)
[03:01] <strategy> magnatop, no joke
[03:01] <strategy> it's by far the most important imho
[03:01] <steph3> hiya
[03:01] <strategy> type `man [any command or program name here]'
[03:01] <strategy> it'll give you tons of info on it
[03:01] <Strav> and then there's the classic: apt-get remove --purge libc6 --yes-I-am-aware-I-m-scraping-my-system
[03:01] <bastid_raZor> vock; correct. by using sudo in CLI or gksudo to launch a gui application with root privileges.
[03:02] <carandraug> magnatop: they're all talking serious. It's the command you'll use the most in Linux
[03:02] <magnatop> well, in that case, i better go find my reading glasses :)
[03:02] <vock> bastid_razor: Is there a way to make it so someone can't ssh into my admin group user then?
[03:02] <magnatop> sudo apt-get install screen
[03:02] <magnatop> er..
[03:02] <bastid_raZor> vock; don't give them your password.
[03:02] <Strav> magnatop: I might suggest you the "info" instead of man pages...
[03:03] <Strav> if you wish to get a more structured view on that are the basics of your system
[03:03] <carandraug> magnatop: you can also check a man page of configuration files to learn what to do with it, not only of programs.
[03:03] <vock> bastid_raZor: heh, i guess, no way to disable access though?
[03:03] <magnatop> wow, thats very helpfull.
[03:03] <Bsims> magnatop: linux is helpful
[03:04] <RickZilla> Ok gang...I put ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso on a cd-rom, changed my boot sequence so that the cd drive would boot first, verified it, restarted, then...nothing.  Windows booted as usual...can somebody suggest something I'm doing wrong?
[03:04] <seedbox> whats the best ubuntu torrent client besides transmission that gui
[03:04] <bastid_raZor> vock; disable ssh you mean? 'access' meaning?
[03:04] <Bsims> If I was making a distro first time you opened a command prompt it would show it
[03:04] <Strav> Bsims: yea, and that's because you often need help.
[03:04] <ScheissDrogen> !best | seedbox
[03:04] <Bsims> Strav: but eventually it all makes sense
[03:04] <strategy> RickZilla, did you burn it using the normal windows burning utility?
[03:04] <seedbox> god damnit just name some
[03:04] <ScheissDrogen> seedbox : try ktorrent or opera
[03:04] <strategy> RickZilla, if you did that, the CD isnt 'bootable'.
[03:04] <tj83> RickZilla, did you write the .iso to disk or write the image from .iso?
[03:04] <seedbox> thanks
[03:04] <bastid_raZor> !torrent | seedbox
[03:04] <Bsims> seedbox: apt-cache show torrent|less|sort
[03:05] <ScheissDrogen> lol
[03:05] <steph3> i got a prob, if i start xchat on ubuntu it opens but if close after one sec
[03:05] <vock> bastid_raZor: disable ssh, or disable ssh capabilities into specific accounts, beyond just not giving out passwords?
[03:05] <RickZilla> strategy and tj83:  I burned the file to a cd like I would any other file...is there another way of doing that?  creating a bootable cd?
[03:05] <Bsims> steph3: open it from a command line
[03:05] <strategy> RickZilla, yes. See this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[03:05] <Bsims> RickZilla: Ahh you need to actually burn the iso
[03:05] <steph3> im new to ubuntu
[03:05] <steph3> whats the commandline?
[03:05] <RickZilla> ok...back I go, lol....thanks for the quick and generous help
[03:06] <Strav> Bsims: linux is quite well documented yea, but most of the time, you'd wish to keep that doc away and focus on your main occupation (that MIGHT NOT BE operating systems)
[03:06] <strategy> RickZilla, No problem :P
[03:06] <ScheissDrogen> steph3 : terminal
[03:06] <steph3> danke
[03:06] <steph3> ty*
[03:06] <ScheissDrogen> schon ok
[03:06] <carandraug> RickZilla: you can select burn iso with some utilities or mount it to a virtual drive and choose copy CD. Those ways are correct. If you open the iso and just copy the files to a CD, that's not the correct way
[03:06] <ScheissDrogen> !gr
[03:06] <bastid_raZor> vock; it would be best to come up with a well crafted password. more than 10 letters with numbers and letters.
[03:06] <ScheissDrogen> !de
[03:06] <steph3> whats tjhe exactly cmd in terminal to open it?
[03:06] <dvlper> any help on apt-get source
[03:07] <dvlper> ?
[03:07] <Strav> argh I'll do some more google on my resume from suspend problem.
[03:07] <steph3> drogen ty , but i use english language on ubuntu
[03:07] <Bsims> Strav: heh yeah true enough, but do you know what sold me on linux? I asked for help in a mailinglist with a problem, got a response within 30 minutes BY the guy who wrote the program
[03:07] <ScheissDrogen> steph3 : see pm
[03:07] <Nigra4justice>  irc.partyvan.fm
[03:07] <steph3> ty
[03:07] <Nigra4justice> FUCKING
[03:07] <tj83> dvlper, what are you trying to install?
[03:07] <Nigra4justice> ]GOD DAMNIT
[03:07] <FloodBot1> Nigra4justice: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:08] <pirate> I'm having a problem with my fstab. I have two hard drives. However, they seem to argue about which one is sda and which is sdb. One has a partition I want to always mount at a certain point, the other I could care less about. Both are NTFS. Can someone help me out?
[03:08] <vock> bastid_raZor: thanks for your help, and now i have a long winded passwd to type everytime i need to sudo
[03:09] <carandraug> Bsims: yes. That's one of the best things from Linux and it's often overlooked by new users
[03:09] <tj83> pirate, /join #ubuntu
[03:09] <pirate> ... I'm in that room, I believe
[03:09] <tj83> pirate, /join #seaphor i mean
[03:09] <bastid_raZor> vock; that is better than having your system compromised.
[03:09] <tj83> lol
[03:09] <Bsims> carandraug: you know how in pan you can drag and drop collumn layouts? that was my idea
[03:10] <Bsims> Sorry seeing my name in the changelog sold me for life
[03:10] <bastid_raZor> !sudo > vock: read this. it may give you some hints.
[03:11]  * Bsims laughs been windows free from 2000
[03:11] <carandraug> Bsims: hehe! That's good for the ego as well. I had to google what pan is 'cos I don't use it.
[03:12] <Bsims> carandraug: used to stand for pimp ass newsreader
[03:13] <Bsims> carandraug: what got me was I can explore and learn as deep as I want
[03:13] <Bsims> If I care I can look and see why it does what it does
[03:13] <bastid_raZor> vock; since ubottu is lagging:: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:14] <Ice_Max> I having problems with my download manager, its saying Could not download all repository indexes
[03:14] <vock> bastid_raZor: thanks for everyting
[03:14] <Wii60> So, I've got one of the wierder tech support questions if someone wants to give it a shot
[03:14] <Bsims> Ice_Max: it happens try again in a bit
[03:14] <Bsims> Wii60: go for it
[03:15] <carandraug> Bsims: I started with it just 'cos I wanted something different. I stayed 'cos I enjoyed to know how things actually work, like you
[03:15] <steph3> brb
[03:15] <Wii60> Well, I'm running ubuntu on my old Gateway M680, I installed because windows locked up no BSOD, just froze, after about 5 mins of use
[03:15] <Wii60> also the USB ports didn't work
[03:15] <Bsims> carandraug: heh only reason I'm on ubuntu? at the time my hd died, ubuntu had a working installer and sid was in one of its you cant upgrade modes
[03:15] <harushimo> hey everyone
[03:16] <Bsims> this was back when woody? I think was stable
[03:16] <harushimo> question
[03:16] <Wii60> I'm running Ubuntu, just fine, after many reinstalls of windows, so obviously its hardware, but what makes ubuntu work here and not windows?
[03:16] <shakaponk> hey guys
[03:16] <Ice_Max> its saying this as well
[03:16] <Ice_Max> "Failed to fetch http://98111.free.fr/apt/dists/gutsy/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[03:16] <Ice_Max> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[03:16] <Ice_Max>  and every time i check it does it, its been doing it for a while.
[03:16] <vock> bastid_raZor: now i wish i picked a better username as well
[03:16] <FloodBot1> Ice_Max: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:16] <harushimo> my internet is cutting out on ubuntu. I don't understand why
[03:16] <harushimo> I checked my router. the traceroute and ping is working
[03:16] <Bsims> Wii60: sounds like your motherboard died, does it work under linux?
[03:16] <Wii60> yeah works great under linux, but no USB support
[03:16] <noah> harushimo: what doesn't work?
[03:17] <carandraug> Bsims: I started with Ubuntu but then tried archlinux. Still using it in another computer. I found it best to learn. But we're getting a bit offtopic now
[03:17] <Bsims> Hrm could be the controler, go into bios and disable usb if you can
[03:17] <bastid_raZor> vock; you can always create a new user.
[03:17] <harushimo> I think the NIC card isn't functioning properly
[03:17] <harushimo> it works now
[03:17] <Wii60> ok, I'll give that a go, thanks man
[03:17] <tonsofpcs> what's a NIC card?
[03:17] <magnatop> nic card is redundant :)
[03:17] <magnatop> :)
[03:17] <harushimo> your right it is redundant
[03:17] <magnatop> :)
[03:18] <harushimo> nic card is integrated with motherboard
[03:18] <Bsims> Wii60: hey no problem
[03:18] <Bsims> Wii60: I got my mainboard from newegg
[03:18] <harushimo> how can test for it
[03:18] <harushimo> you*
[03:18] <Bsims> they and the forums on line can steer you to one that works with linux and newegg has a good return policy
[03:18] <vock> bastid_raZor: If i made a new user, copied everythign from the old home directory to the new home directory, would that be effectively just chaning the user names, or would i need to do something else?
[03:18] <Ice_Max> what does it mena when it says this
[03:18] <harushimo> pidgin always get disconnected. if I'm watching a video, its buffers a very long time
[03:18] <usser> vock, nope thats about it
[03:19] <shakaponk> i'm a linux beginner, and i've installed on a ubuntu server edition vm x window with install ubuntu-desktop and then uninstalled it... now i have an ubuntu recovery menu after shutdown... what does it mean and how can i remove it?
[03:19] <usser> vock, the only thing i'd just in case is change ownership of your home
[03:19] <Bsims> shakaponk: hrm means it left grub installed
[03:19] <Ice_Max> Failed to fetch http://98111.free.fr/apt/dists/gutsy/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[03:19] <harushimo> what would be a solutions for that
[03:19] <Ice_Max> ﻿Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:19] <Bsims> shakaponk: did you install over windows?
[03:19] <HillmN> wats up everyone
[03:19] <harushimo> or an idea whats going on
[03:19] <bastid_raZor> vock; right create the new user copy your current /home/user to home/newuser then chmod the file to the newuser and you're basically done.
[03:19] <Bsims> Ice_Max: nothing to worry about means that one is down
[03:20] <Ice_Max> how do i remove it?
[03:20] <shakaponk> Bsims: sorry cant follow you. i've installed in a clean ubuntu server apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and then apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:20] <bastid_raZor> vock; chmod the /home/newuser directory that is.. chmod -R newuser /home/newuser
[03:21] <harushimo> i'm just trying to think do I need to get a new mobo or not
[03:21] <Bsims> Ice_Max: you mean the entry entirely
[03:21] <harushimo> thats why
[03:21] <Ice_Max> assuming i can update fine without, yeah
[03:21] <Bsims> shakaponk: Hrm try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[03:21] <bastid_raZor> vock; you would need to do that with sudo also. then add the newuser to the admin group and anything else your previous user was apart of.
[03:21] <usser> bastid_raZor, vock thats actually chown -R newuser:newuser /home/newuser
[03:21] <Bsims> Ice_Max: you will be able to
[03:21] <Bsims> Ice_Max: apt is smart
[03:21] <shakaponk> Bsims: but i don't want the desktop...
[03:22] <Eleaf> How can I save wireless networks that have hidden essids?  I have to re-enter the wpa key every time I unsuspend my laptop ;S.
[03:22] <Bsims> shakaponk: somethings may depend on it
[03:22] <bastid_raZor> usser; technically the group doesn't matter but it can't hurt.
[03:22] <Bsims> edit init to not start x then
[03:22] <^Phantom^> would 8 gigs be sufficient enough for a fixed-size virtual hard drive for ubuntu?
[03:22] <ChrisULM> when I boot my computer, the normal ubuntu boot screen loads up but then it goes to scrolling text instead of the nice loading bar. The system boots up fine, but how do i go back to the normal boot splash?
[03:22] <Bsims> ^Phantom^: yeah
[03:23] <shakaponk> Bsims: is there a possibility to remove them? i want the server like it was after the installation
[03:23] <strategy> ^Phantom^, ubuntu needs around 4GB, so that'll be good enough for ubuntu + some programs
[03:23] <yates> what isn't my .bash_profile getting executed?
[03:23] <Bsims> shakaponk: that will install it back just as it was
[03:23] <Bsims> Hrm I am assuming you don't want xserver?
[03:23] <shakaponk> Bsims: no
[03:24] <^Phantom^> i was considering 12
[03:24] <ChrisULM> anyone know how to replace the boot screen?
[03:24] <Ice_Max> Bsims: i found it in the 3rd party tabs in the software sources manager, its safe to uncheck it right?
[03:24] <strategy> ^Phantom^, depends on if you'll need more than 4GB of applications
[03:24] <Bsims> shakaponk: apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <Bsims> shakaponk: then apt-get uninstall xorg
[03:24] <yates> what isn't my .bash_profile getting executed? this is when popping up an xterm
[03:25] <adiabatic> Is there a program included with Ubuntu that'll reformat and set up to automount a new HD that I just installed?
[03:25] <^Phantom^> but 8 seems more practical for the amount of data i moved from my internal hdd to my external
[03:25] <Bsims> Ice_Max: correct, or if you want I can tell you how to do it manually
[03:25] <Bsims> adiabatic: gparted
[03:25] <adiabatic> thanks
[03:25] <ScheissDrogen> !repeat | yates
[03:25] <^Phantom^> all of it backed up, some moved
[03:25] <shakaponk> Bsims: thx, i'll try
[03:25] <^Phantom^> it was like 30-40 gigs
[03:26] <yates> SheissDrogen: added info - sorry for th e repeititiontiontiontiontiontion... :)
[03:26] <Ice_Max> Bsims: Nah, as long as everything updates Ok the way it is now thats fine.
[03:26] <mal3> what's the console command for restricted manager?
[03:26] <yates> ubottu: i love you
[03:26] <ScheissDrogen> ﻿adiabatic:use gparted
[03:26] <yates> ubottu: .bash_profile
[03:26] <adiabatic> ScheissDrogen, Bsims: thanks
[03:26] <Bsims> Not a problem ya all
[03:26] <yates> ubottu: bash
[03:26] <harushimo> one more question, does dban for i386 work with core 2 duo
[03:27] <^Phantom^>  i'll go with 10 :D
[03:27] <strlng> I just installed Ubuntu server but for some reason when doing an apt-get update all the index files are returning 404s
[03:27] <ScheissDrogen> mal3 : sources. list is the files determines your software-base
[03:27] <Bsims> harushimo: i386 will work with anything later than and including an intel 386 you tell me
[03:27] <ScheissDrogen> file
[03:27] <harushimo> isn't core 2 duo under i486 or later
[03:28] <Ice_Max> One more thing; is there any way to make it so that when i press the mouse wheel down i can move the mosue up or down to scrool through documents or web pages?
[03:28] <harushimo> i386 were the late 90's processor like pentium
[03:28] <harushimo> that's what I'm wondering
[03:28] <hdevalence> WHere would I request an application be added to the Ubuntu repositories?
[03:28] <Bsims> harushimo: No I mean intell 386 pentium is 586
[03:28] <ScheissDrogen> harushimo: you're asking 'bout 64 or 32 bit
[03:28] <subone> Does anyone know if there's a way to make the gnome-panel flash brighter and more noticable when a window needs my attention?
[03:28] <Bsims> so it will work
[03:28] <harushimo> yeah
[03:29] <Bsims> harushimo: I beleve the default is still 32 bit
[03:29] <harushimo> I have core 2 duo which I think 64 bit
[03:29] <Bsims> but a core 2 duo can be either
[03:29] <Bsims> what version of ubuntu did you install 32 or 64
[03:29] <^Phantom^> i have put 512mb ram as base memory for the linux virtual hd, will that be sufficient for most applications to run smoothly
[03:29] <harushimo> ubuntu 64
[03:29] <Bsims> ^Phantom^: should be
[03:29] <Rev> hi
[03:29] <harushimo> i know that
[03:29] <ScheissDrogen> harushimo: 32 is still better supported and 64 only brings a slighty advantage until you want to run tons of ram
[03:30] <Bsims> then its 64 bit all in how that app was compiled
[03:30] <bastid_raZor> harushimo; even if it is 64bit .. 64bit Ubuntu has many issues that an intermediate user will have trouble with. it is recommended to use 32bit for less hassle.
[03:30] <Rev> I just tried to change my fonts under xfce, and now, letters dont appear anymore in firefox on some sites
[03:30] <Rev> like they do in google news, but they dont in facebook
[03:30] <Rev> any idea?
[03:30] <Rev> i tried to restore the original police, without any chance
[03:30] <harushimo> oh okay...I'm doing a reinstall, so its better to have 32 bit even with a core 2 duo processor
[03:30] <harushimo> that's what I'm understanding
[03:30] <^Phantom^> 512 is half my ram
[03:31] <arooni> can someone tell me how i can get a microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 to get its back/forward buttons working correctly (in firefox to go back/forward but also in nautilus to navigate folders etc)?  right the back button on mouse = middle button, and forward button = right click.
[03:31] <anthony> hello. Got questions about my graphics card driver setup. Any takers?
[03:31] <^Phantom^> (i will be upgrading to 2gigs of ram soon)
[03:31] <^Phantom^> (when i finally get enough money saved up :D)
[03:31] <david73> hi all
[03:31] <ScheissDrogen> anthony : hich card ?
[03:31] <ScheissDrogen> !hi
[03:31]  * fserve Looking for notebooks com vga BOA por menos de 2k, PVT : P
[03:31] <ScheissDrogen> anthony : which card ?
[03:32] <harushimo> i've been using ubuntu 64. I haven't had any problems but I have problems with 8.10
[03:32] <anthony> thanks scheiss
[03:32] <bringatowel> !es | fserve
[03:32] <pirate> I'm having a problem. Sometimes when I boot up my computer my partition I want fstab to mount is sda2, other times it's sdb2. Why does it seem to randomly swap?
[03:32] <anthony> I have an via motherboard with an s3 prosavage8 chipset on board
[03:32] <SaraSmith> where can i download ubuntu 8.4 ? (assuming there isn't a kubuntu)
[03:32] <Bsims> ^Phantom^: unless you are using more than 4gigs of ram 32bit will suit you nicely
[03:32] <david73> just installed it the other day
[03:32] <bringatowel> !uuid | pirate
[03:32] <fserve> bringatowel, sorry, was a /amsg thing
[03:32] <^Phantom^> 32bit it is
[03:32] <khin> whenever i click a text file gnome / nautilus says "blah is an executable text file. Would you like to run it or display it." How do I set things so that it always displays it ( .py files should display in emacs, for instance... )
[03:32] <outbackwifi> hi there
[03:32] <^Phantom^> no 64bit processors
[03:33] <ScheissDrogen> pirate : removable drive, see bringatowel
[03:33] <bringatowel> fserve, hehe no prob, just trying to get you support in whatever language
[03:33] <cygoku> I screwed up big time.  My biggest resolution is now 640x480 instead of 1280x800 ! :( I am under a laptop with an ati x1400 card.
[03:33] <fserve> : )
[03:33] <fserve> portuguese btw
[03:33] <outbackwifi> khin: change file associations
[03:33] <fserve> but, dont worry
[03:33] <Ice_Max> ﻿is there any way to make it so that when i press the mouse wheel down i can move the mouse up or down to scroll through documents or web pages?
[03:33] <khin> outbackwifi where
[03:33] <fserve> i want buy a new laptop with a good gfx
[03:33] <ScheissDrogen> !who | anthony
[03:34] <ScheissDrogen> anthony : which card ?
[03:34] <Bsims> Ice_Max: in what browser?
[03:34] <bringatowel> fserve, ah lol yeah im not always able to tell those apart (at least not in 10 words or less)
[03:34] <Ice_Max> Bsims: Firefox
[03:34] <anthony> scheissDrogen: sysinfo identifies my graphics card as a VT8475 ProSavage8 km266/kl266
[03:34] <^Phantom^> is 512 enough for running video-editing applications on ubuntu?
[03:34] <Ice_Max> Bsism: doesnt work in any app actually
[03:35] <orionr> is there a way to download .debs using apt-get with out installing them?
[03:35] <Bsims> Hrm wierd
[03:35] <Bsims> orionr: I just use wget or firefox for that, why?
[03:35] <magnatop> alright, sweet, now i just have to figure out how to get out of 800x600 :)
[03:35] <flip> ok so after playing w/ my new laptop and ubuntu today for quite some time... i finally got wireless working; soft of
[03:35] <bringatowel> ^Phantom^, it should work, just depends what size videos, and how fast it will be processed, also what program you use
[03:35] <flip> i was using the wrong drivers.. and thinking it had a differant chipset then it actually does
[03:35] <cygoku> I screwed up big time.  My biggest resolution is now 640x480 instead of 1280x800 ! :( I am under a laptop with an ati x1400 card.
[03:35] <khin> anyone know how to make nautilus display my text files automatically instead of asking me whether they should be displayed or run as scripts
[03:35] <flip> i can connect to the ssid now ---- but i get no traffic
[03:35] <khin> this is kind of annoying
[03:36] <orionr> Bsims: our school has a matlab package it its repo but you can only install it if your oncampus and i have a friend who is off campus so i'm trying to get that for him.
[03:36] <captain> quick question, I just input "uptime" in terminal and along with the time it says 2 users. There are not 2 users, could that be because of my Virtual Machine?
[03:36] <bringatowel> orionr, have you tried octave or scilab?
[03:36] <orionr> its not for me but i believe the teacher requires matlab.
[03:36] <bringatowel> khin, are they set as executable for some reason?
[03:36] <Zikey> Hi, what command can i use to know if i run 8.04 or 8.04.1 ?
[03:37] <ScheissDrogen> ﻿ captain: root and standard user ?
[03:37] <flip> can anyone think of any reason i cant ping my router... although i have a static address and i am connected to the wireless ssid?
[03:37] <markys-l> captain: type "w" in the console to see who is logged in and where
[03:37] <bastid_raZor> Zikey; lsb_release -a
[03:37] <Zikey> thx bastid :)
[03:37] <khin> bringatowel if i click a text file i get a dialog that says, "Do you want to run blah, or display its contents? Blah is an executable text file."
[03:38] <captain> ScheissDrogen: sounds bout right, should have known thanks
[03:38] <bringatowel> captain, i have 2 logged in users, but im not running any vm
[03:38] <Bsims> orionr: download it next time you are on, and it will be in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:38] <captain> markys-l it was me twice, locations 0 and 0.0
[03:38] <bastid_raZor> caplink811_log; that is your GUI and terminal.. each show as a seperate entity of you running... i have 12 users atm
[03:38] <Prose> besides OSSEC, anyhthing required to have a safe ssh connection opened to the interwebs ?
[03:38] <bastid_raZor> captain; ^^^^
[03:39] <outbackwifi> khin: right-click on the file in nautilus, click on properties and open-with and then choose the preferred application eg gedit
[03:39] <bringatowel> khin, enable the permissions column in the file browser, or go to shell and type "ls -l" and see if they are set to executable
[03:39] <feles> Hello all
[03:39] <markys-l> captain: yep, tty7 is your gui
[03:39] <st3ph> :D
[03:39] <feles> Quick question really: Is it possible to install Windows after installing Ubuntu?
[03:39] <feles> (in a dual boot environment)
[03:39] <captain> markys-l awesome, knew there was a simple answer, thanks
[03:39] <flip> feles: sure
[03:40] <flip> feles: after you install windows though --- youll have to use the ubuntu cd to reinstall the grub boot mangaer
[03:40] <feles> Most walkthroughs I'm finding are talking about having windows installed first
[03:40] <feles> ooh, ok
[03:40] <flip> feles: its easier to install windows first... but totally not required.
[03:40] <Ikarius> hey folks... I just read the ubuntu wiki on compiling packages and found a few bits of the documentation insufficient. anyone willing to help me with what I need to do to build an 8.10 package for 8.04?
[03:40] <Bsims> Ikarius: sure let me google
[03:41] <Ikarius> I hope it's not as simple as google... I found the wiki page with that
[03:41] <Bsims> Ikarius: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html#s-dh_make then http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-build.en.html
[03:41] <Ikarius> I read that Bsims
[03:41] <flip> in 8.04 when i connected to my wireless lan... i had an applet showing the reception up top (this is a stock install) all of a sudden its back to the 2 black monitors and i have no connectivity
[03:41] <flip> how do i get it back?
[03:41] <Bsims> Ikarius: so its dh_make --createorig; then sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[03:42] <Bsims> Ikarius: then dpkg -i whatever.deb
[03:42] <Bsims> er sudo dpkg
[03:43] <cygoku_> Huh hello ??
[03:44] <cygoku_> I have a laptop that can no longer be in 1280x800 resolution, I am stuck at 640x480
[03:44] <Ikarius> trying the dh_make route... I was reading docs on the pbuilder route
[03:44] <khin> bringatowel i typed ls -l and it includes x ... but i want to be able to execute text files potentially ... i just don't want it to ever happen from nautilus
[03:44] <Ikarius> pbuilder route looked a bit... heavyweight
[03:44] <patrickmn> cygoku_: shy do you think you are stuck at that resolution?
[03:45] <patrickmn> *why
[03:45] <cygoku_> patrickmn : I don't know, I guess that's why I am here no ?
[03:45] <bringatowel> khin, hmm not sure about that, what i would do is chmod them all to disable execution, then you can still execute them from the command line using "sh filename"
[03:45] <Kai_wp> I see this video I'm trying to play in both VLC and Totem Movie Player both display it interlaced. I don't think it's supposed to appear like this. Is there anyway to de-interlace it?
[03:46] <starn_> can anyone help me really fast? for my ubuntu keeps locking up.... and its a fresh install and freshly updated
[03:46] <Kai_wp> I didn't notice the interlacing in Windows, so it's either that it's playing it interlaced when it shouldn't be, or in Windows it was de-interlaced.
[03:46] <cygoku_> ...
[03:46] <khin> bringatowel how would i disable it for all text files
[03:46] <patrickmn> cygoku_: have you went into the system > preferences > screen resolution and tried to change it?
[03:46] <bringatowel> Kai_wp, there are some options in vlc to de-interlace, don't recall which to try exactly
[03:47] <adiabatic> Is there something that'll help me automount a freshly-installed /dev/sdb, or do I need to modify /etc/mtab myself?
[03:47] <myo> hey guys, does anyone know why my computer would be running in top shape, and when I steped out for a couple hours, now it complains that my user is not in the sudoers file?
[03:47] <cygoku_> patrickmn : I get the same, max is 640x480 :(
[03:48] <cygoku_> Wich is rly bad :(
[03:48] <starn_> can anybody help me fix my freeze ups with ubuntu? i just reinstalled it and it is giving me lockup issues now...
[03:48] <ianliu_88> When I log on Ubuntu, sometimes my panel itens (tray icons, clock, sound, etc) get unordered even if they are locked... How can I fix this?
[03:48] <Ikarius> grumble. dh_make is giving me trouble with getting the version correct
[03:48] <patrickmn> cygoku_: are you using restricted drivers?
[03:48] <^Phantom^> k
[03:48] <strategy> myo, are you sure you didnt just log into an account without sudoer privelages?
[03:48] <vantrigge2> guys, im downloading something in terminal and i got disconnected. now it doesnt seem like it's still downloading.  how do i make it resume?
[03:48] <Ikarius> version is 3.1.1-1ubuntu1,  it's giving me version 1ubuntu1 and leaving 3.1.1 attached to the package name.
[03:49] <cygoku_> patrickmn : Yes I am using the restricted drivers and compiz works good.
[03:49] <^Phantom^> my virtual linux is not letting me select a display resolution above 800x600 <_<
[03:49] <myo> strategy: yes, there's only one account on this computer (laptop), and it was logged in the whole time I was gone
[03:49] <strategy> ^Phantom^, are you running it on MS VirtualPC?
[03:49] <Bricker> does anyone know anything about the program called fuppes?
[03:49] <ScheissDrogen> !xen
[03:49] <bringatowel> khin, not sure, you could try "chmod -R 644 *.txt"
[03:49] <^Phantom^> VirtualBox
[03:49] <patrickmn> cygoku_: bare with me a little, I am noob to linux, just made the switch last week
[03:49] <n-iCe> oidentd uses my user name as ident, is there a way to change it, without create a new user?
[03:49] <eblume> Hi! I need to transfer a Very Large File (8.8 gigs) from an Ubuntu machine to a ista machine. They are connected on a wireless network, and I am computer savvy. The wireless transfer speed would take 3 hours.
[03:49] <eblume> My question is - how hard is it to set up a crossover ethernet connection to speed it up?
[03:49] <cygoku_> patrickmn : Okay ! :(
[03:50] <bringatowel> adiabatic, don't you mean /etc/fstab ?
[03:50] <ScheissDrogen> !xen >﻿ st3ph
[03:50] <patrickmn> cygoku_: I think that you may need to verify that you are using the correct driver, what kind of laptop are you using?  have you had larger resolution before?
[03:50] <strategy> ^Phantom^, i have a friend who uses VPC(not sure about virtualbox), but he says vpc doesnt have a virtual video card
[03:50] <pirate> !uuid
[03:50] <adiabatic> bringatowel: most likely
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> eblume: 10gig thumb drive maybe?
[03:50] <eblume> IndyGunFreak, I know it's gasp-worthy, but the biggest I have on me is 512 MiB.
[03:51] <bringatowel> adiabatic, there is a disk manager package that will give you a gui
[03:51] <^Phantom^> eblume, i normally connect both to the router with ethernet cables
[03:51] <magnatop> eblume: have you ever made a cat5 cable?
[03:51] <strategy> ^Phantom^, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:51] <eblume> magnatop, I have, and I have both crossover and noncrossover at hand.
[03:51] <cygoku_> patrickmn : I am using the correct driver I know that because I installed many times before.  I have a laptop DELL Inspiron with an ATI card and I use to have 1280x800 as default resolution
[03:51] <adiabatic> bringatowel: do you happen to know the name?
[03:51] <myo> does anyone have any ideas about my sudo problem? I can't do anything with this machine now, and su is disabled in ubuntu
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> eblume: couple blank DVDR's?(like 4.9gigs eachi think)
[03:51] <strategy> ^Phantom^, that should fix it
[03:51] <magnatop> oh, hmm..
[03:51] <adiabatic> I'm in gparted, but it doesn't seem to fiddle with fstab
[03:51] <Bricker> if i need to install a dependency for a program, do i have to reinstall the program and the dependency at the same time....   or can i install the dependency later after the fact and gain all the functionality?
[03:51] <^Phantom^> but it might not be practical for you
[03:51] <eblume> IndyGunFreak, do you know the command to split a g'zipped tar into 4.9 gig chunks?
[03:51] <jrib> myo: what is the output of 'groups'?
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> eblume: sorry id on't
[03:52] <bringatowel> adiabatic, try searching for disk in add/remove
[03:52] <st3ph> !xen
[03:52] <myo> jrib: @#$$! it just says disk
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> eblume: youd ont by chance have an old hard drive laying arund do you?
[03:52] <myo>  the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[03:52] <myo> myo@myoX61:~$ sudo visudo
[03:52] <myo> [sudo] password for myo:
[03:52] <myo> myo is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[03:52] <myo> myo@myoX61:~$ cat /etc/sudoers
[03:52] <FloodBot1> myo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:52] <eblume> IndyGunFreak, Saddly no.
[03:52] <myo> cat: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[03:52] <patrickmn> i looked at the link that [STRATEGY] posted and it recommends to run the auto max display script have you looked at that page?
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> eblume: are yo pretty savy w/ computer hardware?
[03:52] <jrib> myo: there you go.  Reboot in "recovery mode" and do: sudo adduser YOUR_USER admin
[03:52] <bringatowel> adiabatic, it's called "disk management" in add/remove
[03:53] <Bricker> anyone know??
[03:53] <vantrigge2> guys, im downloading something in terminal and i got disconnected. now it doesnt seem like it's still downloading.  how do i make it resume?
[03:53] <strategy> patrickmn, that doesnt help in most cases, but adding the video resoultion (lower down) will work in some cases
[03:53] <jrib> Bricker: how are you installing?
[03:53] <strategy> patrickmn, if you try all of that, at least one solution should work
[03:53] <jrib> vantrigge2: how are you downloading?
[03:54] <patrickmn> thanks strategy, thats good to know
[03:54] <strategy> patrickmn, good luck =]
[03:54] <vantrigge2> jrib: cd compiz-git
[03:54] <vantrigge2> ./compiz-git install
[03:54] <khin> outbackwifi bringatowel i found the solution, you must go in nautilus to edit ->
[03:54] <Bricker> bricker: i installed a program called fuppes via terminal a few days ago....    today i found out it would have been useful if i have an optional dependency installed for it...     i want to know if i have to reinstall the whole thing now?   (i'm a linux newbie)
[03:55] <Bricker> err, i meant jrib :)
[03:55] <khin> preferences -> behavior and then alter the setting for text files
[03:55] <outbackwifi> khin: godo for you
[03:55] <outbackwifi> khin: good for you
[03:55] <binarycodes> i am making a 250GB partition for storing video files, will XFS be a proper filesystem for this?
[03:55] <Bricker> jrib: ﻿ i installed a program called fuppes via terminal a few days ago....    today i found out it would have been useful if i have an optional dependency installed for it...     i want to know if i have to reinstall the whole thing now?   (i'm a linux newbie)
[03:55] <jrib> vantrigge2: depends on how the program handles the missing dependency really. Compiz-fusion is in the repos though
[03:55] <khin> i tried to install compiz-fusion a while back and it said it wasn't compatible with my hardware
[03:56] <bringatowel> khin, oh cool, good to know =)
[03:56] <patrickmn> cygoku_: you may have to go in to your xconf and view if the option for higher resolution is in there
[03:56] <vantrigge2> jrib: Pulling atlantis2 from git...   was the last statement.
[03:56] <vantrigge2> jrib: and doesnt seem like it's moving
[03:56] <myo> jrib: sorry, it pasted all that stuff in there an confused the heck out of irssi
[03:56] <jrib> vantrigge2: ignore my first sentence as I thought you were Bricker.  It's totally up to that random script as to how you resume a download.  Try asking the #compiz-fusion channel
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> eblume: ths is reasonably inexpensive, and more versatile than a thumb drive... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822242006
[03:57] <vantrigge2> jrib: ok. thanks
[03:57] <jrib> Bricker: safer to just reinstall.  It depends how the program handles it really
[03:57] <ahtmly2k> is there a chatroom specified for Blender?
[03:57] <Bricker> jrib: thank you... also, is there anyway i can check what dependencies i actually installed with a program?  ( i just copy and paste a lot from the tutorial, so it would be useful if i could make sure i have not already installed it)
[03:57] <myo> I think I know what happened; I was trying to get my firewire audio interface to work, and I must have run the usermod command wrong and unjoined all of the groups but disk
[03:58] <jrib> ahtmly2k: hidden away at #blender ;)
[03:58] <zelrikriando> hello
[03:59] <ahtmly2k> thnx
[03:59] <jrib> Bricker: if you are compiling programs, they usually don't install anything other than themselves.  If you use APT, it will take care of dependencies automatically.  You can use something like Synaptic if you want a GUI to see what you've installed through APT.  Otherwise, ask a clearer question :)
[03:59] <arooni> can someone tell me how i can get a microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 to get its back/forward buttons working correctly (in firefox to go back/forward but also in nautilus to navigate folders etc)?  right the back button on mouse = middle button, and forward button = right click.
[04:00] <Bricker> jrib: there is no general install log or something i can check in ubuntu?
[04:00] <strategy> Bricker, system -> admin -> system logs
[04:00] <jrib> Bricker: what do you expect it to log?
[04:00] <Bricker> thank you  (no idea)
[04:01] <IdleOne> Bricker: like jrib said "  You can use something like Synaptic if you want a GUI to see what you've installed through APT."
[04:02] <jrib> Bricker: most (all?) of the stuff you install should be through APT.  That is well-managed and you can search for what you installed, etc.  But if you are just running scripts to install things, APT doesn't know about them
[04:02] <IdleOne> Bricker: apps you compile yourself will not be shown in Synaptic. it does not track things we compile ourself
[04:03] <Bricker> i'm actually trying to steam movies through my xbox360... i found a program called fuppes, but it's not on synaptic....   also, i'm a newbie so i appreciate everyone's help and all your information.. it's quite useful :)
[04:03] <vantrigge2> jrib: do u have any idea how to see its status?
[04:03] <szx0> How can I completely remove then reinstall the Apache2.2 configuration of my Ubuntu 8.04/64Bit Server installation. I tried apt-get -f remove apache2 / apt-get --purge remove apache2 / .. then installing again and many different combinations with apache2 and apache2.2-common.. but nothing appears to make the /etc/apache2 directory or the init.d/apache2 file... ideas?
[04:04] <adiabatic> `man mount` points me to `man 7 undocumented`...which says there's no entry for 'undocumented' in section 7. How can I find out how to write an entry of my own in /etc/fstab?
[04:04] <magbuntu> strategy: what was that screen res. url again?  i closed out my window and now i can't find it :)
[04:05] <acp_> !smalltalk
[04:05] <szx0> adiabatic, http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p10.htm
[04:05] <patrickmn> i am looking to install apache and mysql on desktop version of ubuntu for testing. I am a total noob to linux. where would be a good place to start?
[04:06] <Bsims> patrickmn: apt-get install apache
[04:06] <Meshezabeel> when I try to run a jnlp program from firefox, it does not open, any ideas why?
[04:06] <kreggz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:07] <patrickmn> thank you
[04:09] <ubuntu> okay, so i just installed windows to a second drive, and of course my mbr was overdone and i'm now stuck on a livecd, how can i recover my grub and with it a dualboot menu or whatever?
[04:09] <IdleOne> !fixmbr
[04:10] <ubuntu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 <- i've done this, and all it does is bring me to windows' "oh em gee something borked how do you want to boot?" menu
[04:10] <n-iCe> oidentd uses my user name as ident, is there a way to change it, without create a new user?
[04:10] <IdleOne> man oidentd
[04:10] <szx0> Trouble re-installing Ubuntu's packaged Apache2 configuration for my Ubuntu 7.10 (2.6.22-15-server) x86_64 ... Please read my short description here: http://ww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5766036#post5766036
[04:11] <Ice_Max> how can i get rid of Os Selections in GRUB? I have at least 3 different Linux Kernel versions that show up, and i only need one
[04:11] <tehboriz> does anyone use steam with wine stuff
[04:11] <yao_ziyuan> anyone installed google's official toolbar for firefox?
[04:11] <tehboriz> ew hell no
[04:11] <yao_ziyuan> today it suddenly says a new version is installed
[04:11] <szx0> tehboriz, I used to
[04:12] <yao_ziyuan> that scared me a lot
[04:12] <tehboriz> toolbars are for noobs
[04:12] <SebNaitsabes> agreed
[04:12] <tehboriz> szx0: what made you stop lol
[04:12] <bringatowel> binarycodes, i have heard xfs is good for large files, so i guess it depends what size the video files are, but probably that is fine
[04:12] <SebNaitsabes> toolsbars for browsers suck indeed
[04:12] <szx0> tehboriz, nothing really just stopped playing
[04:12] <yao_ziyuan> i hate software to silently download and install executable updates
[04:12] <szx0> tehboriz, it worked pretty decent for me
[04:12] <yao_ziyuan> i'm in china; this could compromise my information security
[04:12] <Stanton> can any one help me with ubuntu freezing up for no reason? some one suggested it was my WIFI USB adaptor.
[04:12] <tehboriz> im thinking about getting ubuntu on my other hard drive in my laptop so i could dual boot..
[04:12] <IdleOne> !lamp > szx0
[04:12] <tehboriz> last time i tried steam with wine, i had 15 fps
[04:13] <Meshezabeel> tehboriz, not the toolbar for quantum transmission
[04:13] <SebNaitsabes> Shanton: could be, which one you got?  did you get it using native Linux drivers or ndiswrapper
[04:13] <szx0> ubottu, thank you
[04:13] <szx0> lol
[04:13] <Stanton> ndiswrapper
[04:13] <szx0> wow I thanked the bot ;-)
[04:13] <tehboriz> lol
[04:13] <bringatowel> Meshezabeel, have you installed Sun Java and the Sun Java browser plugin?
[04:13] <Stanton> no linux drivers for it
[04:14] <Meshezabeel> bringatowel, yes
[04:14] <phece> is it any faster if you don't dual boot and have all your files on your single ubuntu partition?
[04:14] <szx0> IdleOne, re-installing LAMP will re-install Apache2 for me huh.. lets give it a whirl
[04:14] <IdleOne> szx0: well it should
[04:14] <SebNaitsabes> Stanton:  well  I been told that USB adapters aren't good basicalely
[04:14] <bringatowel> Meshezabeel, are you running 32 or 64 bit?
[04:14] <n-iCe> IdleOne: I have read it
[04:15] <n-iCe> you know how?
[04:15] <SebNaitsabes> !wireless |  Stanton
[04:15] <IdleOne> n-iCe: i don't but figured that was a good place to start
[04:15] <n-iCe> IdleOne: nah
[04:15] <SebNaitsabes> Stanton: maybe you can get onto something usful from that, even though you have working
[04:15] <Meshezabeel> bringatowel, actually, how do I double check to see if I have the firefox java plugin, I have javaws on my computer, so I thought that is all I needed
[04:15] <myo> phew, ok guys, I fixed my sudo problem by login as root via the recovery boot option and adding my user back to the 'admin' group
[04:15] <Stanton> SebNaitsabes, it works great under wuindows before i had reinstall linux to fix a huge issue that could not be fixed and now i get freeze ups on a fresh install
[04:16] <Prose> hi all, apache weirdness: i can get my web page with local ip and I can ssh into my webserver with external IP but I can't get webpage through external IP :(
[04:16] <bringatowel> Meshezabeel, it's in Add/Remove, idk what javaws is though
[04:16] <SebNaitsabes> Stanton: what about on Windows?
[04:16] <myo> but now, since I'm only a member of the groups 'disk' and 'admin', might someone be so kind as to give me a list of all the groups a normal ubuntu user should be a member of?
[04:16] <Meshezabeel> also, how do I tell if I'm running 32bit or 64bit, it's been a while since I installed it, so don't remember which one I finally installed
[04:17] <Stanton> SebNaitsabes, i am on windows right now this usb adatport has worked better than my wired connection soo now i am moved into a place where i have to have wifi :(
[04:17] <hellohello> !help
[04:17] <IdleOne> Prose: you have to forward port 80 to your internal ip in router. don't ask me how, search for info on port forwarding for your router
[04:17] <shiloh7> myo, #compiz-fusion is helpful
[04:17] <mojo> hi!  i have a question regarding email services on ubuntu server (hardy i386)... I am following http://www.linux.com/feature/146613 with the intention of using fetchmail to get mail from my google and yahoo accounts, as well as some yahoo, hotmail, and comcast accounts for my roomies.  exim4 is installed already (for whatever reason).  Q1:  Will replacing exim4 with postfix be okay for whatever program needed a mailer (i think apache2)???
[04:17] <mojo>  Also, the install asks what TYPE of mail server.  Can I use Internet + Smarthost and LATER make my server a proper domain mail server on my dyndns account????  THANKS!!!
[04:17] <Meshezabeel> bringatowel, javaws is what is needed to launch the jnlp applications
[04:17] <eurozip> in /etc/snmpd.conf, I have com2sec readonly  default         public and in /etc/default/snmpd I have "SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid'" where I removed the localhost bind... however I still cannot get it to listen on the network address
[04:17] <SebNaitsabes> Stanton:  yes  Windows dirvers in Linux with ndiswrapper won't be perfect I guess
[04:17] <Prose> IdleOne: I did forward port 80 much like I forwared port 22
[04:17] <myo> shiloh7: I'm not sure. I'm just looking for someone to run the groups command, and paste the output here
[04:18] <bringatowel> Meshezabeel, well if the Java browser plugin will let you install it, then you have 32 bit, it wont then you have 64 bit ;)
[04:18] <Stanton> SebNaitsabes, all i know is it worked before.. but um... i do think i get freeze ups even with wireless turned off
[04:18] <eurozip> snmpd is running correctly, with the correct SNMPDOPTS
[04:18] <SebNaitsabes> Stanton:  and hardwired should work better than wireless
[04:18] <n-iCe> oidentd uses my user name as ident, is there a way to change it, without create a new user?
[04:18] <eurozip> however it will not listen on my local network, any ideas?
[04:18] <bringatowel> Meshezabeel, hmm well iirc some websites that use .jnlp work for me just using sun java + browser plugin
[04:18] <^Phantom^> omg
[04:19] <^Phantom^> can i even run win98 on virtualbox?
[04:19] <IdleOne> ^Phantom^: probably yeah
[04:19] <mojo> I am also interested in implementing a private jabber server for myself and friends/relatives available via dyndns domain.  Jabber addy's look like email addy's... do they need to be in sync with local postfix mailbox names?
[04:19] <SebNaitsabes> yes you can run 98 on Virtualbox
[04:19] <Stanton> SebNaitsabes, i would go wired but i have no wired accesse here.... i was kinda forced into wieless...
[04:20] <SebNaitsabes> ok see my PM
[04:20] <^Phantom^> i have an install cd with a key :D
[04:20] <SebNaitsabes> Stanton
[04:20] <Meshezabeel> bringatowel, does this site work for you? You can make up any name you want: http://tinyurl.com/5db9xq
[04:20] <Stanton> SebNaitsabes, besides how could wireless freeze an entire computer?
[04:20] <IdleOne> Prose: I don't even get a ping response. make sure the settings are correct in your router is all I can suggest
[04:20] <SebNaitsabes> Stanton:  buggy driver for Ndiswrapper?
[04:21] <Prose> IdleOne: okay thanks :)
[04:21] <Datz> hello, do any repositories still have airsnort?  I tried adding a few that should, but the package manager couldn't find anything.
[04:21] <IdleOne> Prose: just got a response
[04:21] <Stanton> SebNaitsabes, if thats the case i might be able to fix it be back later.
[04:21] <SebNaitsabes> Stanton: in fact another one of these USB adapters not the one you have, can cause Blue Screen of Death in Windows
[04:21] <bringatowel> Meshezabeel, yeah it looks like it :)
[04:22] <n-iCe> oidentd uses my user name as ident, is there a way to change it, without create a new user?
[04:22] <Meshezabeel> bringatowel, uname -a suggests that I am running 64-bit version
[04:22] <st3ph> how can i add different servers on pidgin?
[04:22] <SebNaitsabes> accounts
[04:23] <bringatowel> Meshezabeel, that might be more difficult then, i think you need to install the 32bit version of java, but i have not tried that before
[04:23] <SebNaitsabes> account manage
[04:23] <SebNaitsabes> at teh top
[04:23] <SebNaitsabes> acounts manage at the top
[04:23] <Meshezabeel> bringatowel, hmm, for me, I asks me if I want to open with Java Webstart, I say yes, it downloads it but then doesn't seem to do anything else
[04:23] <st3ph> ty
[04:23] <IdleOne> !java64
[04:24] <Blaze_Boy> can any one give me help .... i want to make an account on deviantart and the IP range is banned ... i want a volunteer to make me an account please ... talk to me on private...that's the only way i can make an account and i need it .. pleeez..
[04:25] <Datz> Is anyone able to get a result for "airsnort" with synaptic?
[04:25] <danbh_intrepid> Datz: nope
[04:25] <Meshezabeel> okay, thanks bringatowel, at least I kind of have an idea what is causing the problem
[04:25] <bringatowel> Meshezabeel, yeah that might be because the browser plugin doesn't seem to be compatible with 64bit java, you might want to do a search for installing 32bit java in 64bit linux
[04:25] <Datz> ok, thank you
[04:25] <danbh_intrepid> Blaze_Boy: try emailing  the admin@deviantart.com   and sell your case there
[04:26] <Blaze_Boy> it's faster if someone make me an account
[04:26] <bringatowel> Meshezabeel, sure, you saw that link from ubottu right?
[04:26] <Meshezabeel> bringatowel, oh, no thanks :) and thanks IdleOne
[04:26] <danbh_intrepid> Datz: it looks like it was in dapper
[04:27] <mojo> bringatowel:  ford prefect?
[04:27] <IdleOne> Meshezabeel: np
[04:27] <arooni-mobile> i was trying to get my 7 button mouse working but now i'm getting the error: 'your session only lasted less than 10 seconds" ... and errors in ~/.xsession-errors file shows: /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_CA; Start IM throug h/etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default
[04:27] <arooni-mobile> how do i fix?
[04:27] <Meshezabeel> mojo, don't speak his name here
[04:27] <mojo> Meshezabeel:  he he
[04:27] <Datz> ﻿danbh_intrepid, is there a way to get the package and install it on to hardy?
[04:27] <remu> Hey guys, I'm trying to get the following to work, any ideas what I should do? The problem I am having is that the audio seems to stutter/loop, the card is: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[04:27] <Meshezabeel> :)
[04:27] <bringatowel> mojo, 4 transgalactic gargle blasters, on helium ice plz ;)
[04:28] <danbh_intrepid> Datz: it looks like it was removed from hardy
[04:28] <d0lphin> who can give me a command line mail tool?
[04:28] <Flannel> d0lphin: Define tool
[04:28] <Datz> ﻿danbh_intrepid, ah so they want you to do it the hard way.
[04:28] <mojo> bringatowel:  maybe you can fire up that improbability drive and help me get my server running smooth for me?
[04:28] <Blaze_Boy> can any one give me help .... i want to make an account on deviantart and the IP range is banned ... i want a volunteer to make me an account please ... talk to me on private...that's the only way i can make an account and i need it .. pleeez..
[04:28] <Meshezabeel> so long and thanks for all the fish
[04:29] <IdleOne> d0lphin: Synaptic can or apt-cache search
[04:29]  * mojo sticks his head in a bucket of water
[04:29] <Flannel> Blaze_Boy: please don't ask about that here.  Try somewhere else, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:29] <microchip420> heys guys, how do i add an app to the panel when it doesnt appear in the menu? epiphany web browser to be specific
[04:29] <danbh_intrepid> Datz: I bet you could just go to the debian archives, and install it from there.  According to the info I see, they made no changes from the debian version to the ubuntu version
[04:29] <arquebus> dolphin-pine, but I dont know if its currently in the repo
[04:29] <bringatowel> mojo, that does sound ... improbable ... (feel free to ask though and ill try)
[04:30] <d0lphin> thanks a lot
[04:30] <Datz> danbh_intrepid, thanks for the info, I see that aircrack is in the repo so I will try that.  ;)
[04:30] <danbh_intrepid> Datz: hehe, Im installing from the gutsy repo as we speak
[04:30] <mojo> bringatowel:  well i asked earlier, really, it is my inexperience running mail servers.  exim4 is on the box due to some program needing a mailer (apache2 i think?  i forget).  but i want to replace with postfix, use fetchmail to grab my gmail stuff (and others), and LATER use it as my own mail server on my dyndns domain
[04:30] <Flannel> arquebus: pine is non-free, mutt is the free clone.
[04:30] <Datz> ﻿danbh_intrepid, sweet, I will try it too then
[04:31] <Datz> ﻿danbh_intrepid, do I add a URl to the sources.list or somthing?
[04:31] <radioaktivstorm> is there a reason why java would register a key held down with keyrelease and keypress repeatedly under ubuntu?
[04:31] <danbh_intrepid> Datz: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/airsnort/
[04:32] <mojo> bringatowel:  thing is 1) will replacing exim4 with postfix still let whatever it was mail out?  (drop in repl?), also, installing Postfix asks what TYPE of server.  Should I choose Internet + Smarthost, so i can have gmail fwd'd to the gmail server to go out, and comcast to the comcast server, while still having the ability to make my own internet mail services off my dydnds domain in the near future?
[04:32] <evan__> 大家好
[04:32] <bazhang> !cn | evan__
[04:32] <microchip420> heys guys, how do i add an app to the panel when it doesnt appear in the menu? epiphany web browser to be specific.....
[04:33] <Datz> ﻿danbh_intrepid, thanks  ;)
[04:33] <danbh_intrepid> Datz: it doesnt seem to work :(
[04:33] <Datz> :(
[04:33] <Datz> ok
[04:33] <bringatowel> mojo, yikes, i have no clue, never had to set up a mail server actually. maybe it would be helpful to figure out what exactly is using the current server? it seems like you will have to configure the new server anyway, but im not sure =P
[04:33] <mojo> microchip420:  if you edit the menus, can you activate the menu item?  it may be there but inactive.  activate it then drag/drop to the panel
[04:34] <mojo> bringatowel:  i just can't remember, and forgot to make notes (like a real braniac)... i think it just wants to use cmdline "mail" to send out notifications.  i am _pretty sure_ it was apache2 that wanted that
[04:35] <patrickmn> how do i save an edited apache conf file?
[04:35] <microchip420> mojo: i will check
[04:35] <danbh_intrepid> patrickmn: whats the problem?
[04:36] <mojo> patrickmn:  depends on what editor you used?  ^w^q in nano/pico :wq in vi methinks
[04:36] <mojo> sry, ^o^x in nano
[04:36] <patrickmn> I just setup apache to toy around with and I cannot save and edited conf file.  I am using gedit
[04:36] <danbh_intrepid> patrickmn: try gksu gedit next time
[04:36] <tuxxy__> hey anyone have any ideas how to get system sounds working on hardy?
[04:37] <bringatowel> mojo, is there some way you can test it?
[04:37] <mojo> patrickmn:  well you may be editing it as the USER without WRITE permissions to the config file.  you should use alt-f2 to type in a command to run and use gksudo gedit to run gedit with super-user permissions
[04:38] <ballzee> i typed chown -fRv ballzee:ballzee /media/OneTouch4/*   and root still owns everything what am i doing wrong ?
[04:38] <mojo> bringatowel:  well i am DOING the install, my main question is about the TYPE of server to install... but i guess it's no harm if i have to backtrack later... this is just me tinkering right now.
[04:38] <Crayboff> umm i need some help with a psych project, if anyone wishes to help me. is it possible to do private chat?
[04:39] <danbh_intrepid> ballzee: what is that folder mounted to?  a formatted partition?  what format?
[04:39] <bringatowel> mojo, hehe well, good luck, just remember not to panic :D
[04:39] <strategy> Crayboff,  psych project ?
[04:39] <strategy> wuzzat mean
[04:39] <mojo> well what the heck, i'll just run with "internet + smarthost" and see what happens.  if something else breaks because of exim4 removal then i'll deal with that
[04:39] <patrickmn> thank you, that resolved my issue.  is this a normal way to go abouts playing around with web development on ubuntu?
[04:39] <Crayboff> psychology project
[04:39] <strategy> ah
[04:39] <patrickmn> or am i doing it bass ackwards?
[04:40] <Beryllium> I want to configure SSH to listen on multiple ports; on the standard SSH port, I want it to allow all users to log in, but on a second port I want to restrict it to only allowing a single user to use that port. Any ideas on how to accomplish this?
[04:40] <Crayboff> i'm supposed to strike up an informal conversation with someone and see what I learn about myself
[04:40] <Flannel> patrickmn: What are you trying to do with your edits?
[04:40] <mojo> patrickmn:  the security model of running as a user w/o priv's and using sudo (cmdline) or gksudo (gui) to run AS superuser is the preferred ubuntu way
[04:40] <Agent_bob> anyone know how to make wvdial/pppd not redial when a connection is lost ?
[04:40] <greenie> anybody got Colinux working with ubuntu with gui?
[04:40] <danbh_intrepid> patrickmn: I have a separate /home to save my configurations, so I like to store the apache files on /home, and sym link to them from wherever apache wants them
[04:41] <tuxxy__> does anyone have any idea why system sounds play when i manually run them but otherwise dont play on events as they should
[04:41] <patrickmn> well, the first thing I was thinking about was to change the apache configuration to point to /home/USERID/var/www
[04:42] <Flannel> patrickmn: Nah, that's the wrong way to do it.  We have userdir for that.
[04:42] <eurozip> can anyone help with snmpd, I cannot get it to listen on anything but 127.0.0.1
[04:42] <patrickmn> danbh_intrepid: good idea, thanks
[04:43] <eurozip> it's listening on 0.0.0.0, however it will not allow access from anywhere but localhost
[04:43] <eurozip> udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:161             0.0.0.0:*                           -
[04:43] <Ikarius> eurozip- my guess is that the communities aren't set up right
[04:43] <joeb3_> eurozip, don't know the exact command, but your snmpd.conf has to allow connections from other addresses.
[04:44] <eurozip> mine too, but I've been changing them around for hours
[04:44] <eurozip> no resolve
[04:44] <eurozip> com2sec mynetwork 63.99.9.0/24          public
[04:44] <eurozip> group MyROGroup v1         mynetwork
[04:44] <eurozip> access MyROGroup ""      any       noauth    exact all    none  none
[04:44] <eurozip> those are the three lines that matter
[04:44] <Meshezabeel> join #icedtea
[04:44] <eurozip> I don't understand what's going on
[04:45] <charles3> okay I bought a PC and it came with foresight linux, and it sucks i somehow deleted the administrator user or w/e the big problem with this comp is there is no CD ROM so should I switch to ubuntu?
[04:45] <eurozip> Sep 10 22:38:33 marlin snmpd[4099]: netsnmp_assert !"registration != duplicate" failed agent_registry.c:535 netsnmp_subtree_load()
[04:45] <eurozip> that's the only thing in syslog
[04:45] <charles3> i only want this comp for a postgresql database to be held on the comps on my local network
[04:45]  * Crayboff confused
[04:45]  * Crayboff has never used IRC before, so please forgive him while he tries out commands
[04:46] <MYHOME> what
[04:46] <RaW[b33f]> Everything works - but I cant see my Windows machine in a Samba browse. SSH/SFTP works great between them, RDP works fine, but the (k)ubuntu ox can (by samba) see the Win box ... any help?
[04:46] <Ikarius> eurozip maybe you're trying to configure the same community twice?
[04:46] <MYHOME> i am mr.myhome
[04:46] <MYHOME> plz don't hack my laptop plz
[04:46] <charles3> how do i install ubuntu to a flash drive?
[04:47] <bazhang> !usb
[04:47] <eurozip> I only have 2 communities ikarius
[04:47] <eurozip> hmm
[04:47] <MYHOME> i think i am the smartest one in here
[04:47] <eurozip> well, there's
[04:47] <eurozip> com2sec local    localhost      public
[04:47] <eurozip> com2sec mynetwork 63.99.9.0/24          public
[04:47] <bazhang> MYHOME, this is not a chat channel.
[04:47] <RaW[b33f]> MYHOME then help me
[04:47] <eurozip> would that be the issue? both being public
[04:47] <Ikarius> donno euro... I havent fiddled with snmp on ubuntu yet, only on CentOS
[04:47] <bazhang> MYHOME, you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:47] <MYHOME> where is the chat channel?
[04:47] <eurozip> I think you might have solved it, let me restart
[04:48] <Ikarius> euro- simply restart the snmp service
[04:48] <Ikarius> no need to reboot
[04:48] <charles3> thx bazhang
[04:48] <bazhang> charles3, also pendrivelinux.com
[04:49] <Flannel> MYHOME: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:49]  * Ikarius ignores the troll
[04:49] <eurozip> still doing the same thing ikarius
[04:49] <shiloh7> is it possible to have KDE and Gnome?
[04:50] <bazhang> shiloh7, yes
[04:50] <joeb3_> eurozip, do you have snmpconf?
[04:50] <shiloh7> bazhang, i am not familiar with KDE, so I am thinking best way to learn is to have both enviornments
[04:50] <charles3> wow all this comp talk doesnt make much sense to me
[04:51] <charles3> is all I do is dl ubuntu and put the file on the flash drive?
[04:51] <charles3> then try to boot from that?!?
[04:51] <bazhang> shiloh7, kubuntu-desktop is what you need to install to get that
[04:51] <RaW[b33f]> You have to make it bootable
[04:51] <bazhang> charles3, no; best to read the links
[04:51] <ushimitsudoki1> shiloh7: you can install both and then select which "session" you want to use at the login screen. applications based on either KDE or GNOME can run under either one. That is, you can run a "KDE app" on a "GNOME desktop"
[04:51]  * RaW[b33f] points @ bazhang
[04:52] <eurozip> yes joe
[04:52] <charles3> im reading link sand they have unt the partition (mount /dev/sda1 /mnt) and copy the following files from the Ubuntu archives to the stick:
[04:52] <charles3>     *
[04:52] <charles3>       vmlinuz (kernel binary)
[04:52] <charles3>     *
[04:52] <charles3>       initrd.gz (initial ramdisk image)
[04:52] <FloodBot1> charles3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:52] <charles3>     *
[04:52] <eurozip> I tried that also, still nothing
[04:52] <shiloh7> cool, ty
[04:52] <Ikarius> euro- didn't have snmpd installed on my ubuntu
[04:52] <Ikarius> I was gonna fiddle with it eventually anyhoo, lemme install it quick
[04:52] <eurozip> ok, ty ikarius
[04:52] <magbuntu> woo, got it :)
[04:52] <arooni-mobile> i was trying to get my 7 button mouse working (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28374) but now i'm getting the error: 'your session only lasted less than 10 seconds" ... and errors in ~/.xsession-errors file shows: /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_CA; Start IM throug h/etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default
[04:53] <ravendark> charles3: no there is more to it than that, i suggest a nice little utility called unetbootin to help, find it at http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[04:54] <charles3> okay im sorry for noob question, but I can dl that on my windows pc put in a usb and install ubunto ont that usb flash drie, then put flash drive into other comp and install ubuntu from it?
[04:54] <charles3> right? :x
[04:54] <Cacodemon> Why can't Ubuntu detect my 56K modem, yet Windows makes it SO easy to connect to the internet?!?
[04:55] <RaW[b33f]> charles3 no
[04:55] <charles3> then what do I have to do? :/
[04:55] <bazhang> charles3, read the links fully
[04:56] <charles3> lol the links make 0 sense
[04:56] <RaW[b33f]> charles3 - it is not easy - I will tell you that
[04:56] <Kai_wp> For some reason Totem Video Player will no longer play music and plays video without sound, VERY laggy. VLC plays video but has no sounds. I just played a video with sound fine in both players 10 minutes ago, why would it stop working? I didn't change anything related to the programs, video or audio.
[04:56] <Ikarius> eurozip: http://pastebin.com/d6dca223e
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> Kai_wp, are you on youtube ?
[04:56] <Ikarius> try those, see if that works for you
[04:56] <charles3> raw is there someway I can dl ubuntu on a computer and install it that way?
[04:57] <danbh_intrepid> !winmodem | Cacodemon: looks like they are working on it
[04:57] <deamonknight> good day. how do i upgrade my kernel to 686 version? that has smp? thank you
[04:57] <eurozip> Ikarius, I figured it out
[04:57] <Cacodemon> Ubuntu is installed onto my C drive, yet I can't browse it.
[04:57] <SebNaitsabes> Kai_wp: yes  try Youtube if no sound there either  try this:  open terminal and  sudo kilall  pulseaudio    then try something that makes sound
[04:57] <Cacodemon> Only my D and E drive I can use.
[04:57] <eurozip> turns out I am just an idiot... too many damn servers... was all confused on which one I was on
[04:57] <Ikarius> ....
[04:57] <eurozip> thanks for your help
[04:57] <danbh_intrepid> deamonknight: if you are running the latest ubuntu, you have it already
[04:57] <Ikarius> that will do it
[04:58] <gaintsura> hey all, I'm having a problem getting my firewall to allow svn connections, and I don't use it often enough to take and unblock it. Could someone send me the latest svn of linux uvc?
[04:58] <RaW[b33f]> charles3, yes  - download Ubuntu, and put it in your CD drive. It will easily partiion your drive and allow you to dual boot
[04:58] <Ikarius> danbh- any chance you could help me build an intrepid package for gutsy?
[04:58] <deamonknight> but when i do uname -a it says 386-generic
[04:58] <ravendark> charles3: that utility will indeed allow just that, stick usb stick into windows box, run app, and it will make the usb stick bootable, take to other machine, set it to boot from usb and install from stick
[04:58] <Flannel> deamonknight: -generic is for 686, and includes SMP support
[04:58] <Cacodemon> Why can't Ubuntu do anything with my C drive where it's installed on?
[04:59] <Ikarius> danbh- I'd like to update my dhcpd to 3.1.1, which is in intrepid.  I downloaded the source, patch & .dsc file, but it's giving me fits trying to build a .deb out of it
[05:00] <danbh_intrepid> Ikarius: no clue about that, sorry
[05:00] <Ikarius> gah, hokay. thanks anyhow
[05:00] <arooni-mobile> ok any suggestions on getting all 7 buttons of my 7 button mouse working ... in ubuntu hardy?  i dont want to blow it up again
[05:00] <Ikarius> er, wow, not gutsy. hardy.
[05:01] <danbh_intrepid> arooni-mobile: xmodmap didnt work?
[05:01] <Ikarius> c'est la vie
[05:01] <macvr> hi all... i'm a noob , could anyone suggest a good backup and restore program, which will take care of everything incase of a crash,  has a GUI. also i came across this program REMASTERSYS, from which u can create a Custom LiveCD of the present installation as it is, BUT it doesnt work in Hardy, could any1 suggest a similar program?
[05:01] <Cacodemon> I go to Computer and only the D and E drives are listed among with two hidden ones.
[05:01] <Flannel> !backup | macvr
[05:01] <Ikarius> macvr- check acronis trueimage
[05:01] <deamonknight> flannel: thanx
[05:01] <arooni-mobile> danbh_intrepid, xmodmap?
[05:02] <arooni-mobile> danbh_intrepid, right now xorg has it listed as a 5 button mouse too
[05:02] <Styles> Hi
[05:02] <Cacodemon> Thanks for the help. D:<
[05:02] <SebNaitsabes> Styles:  yes Hi
[05:02] <acp_> !sqeak
[05:02] <Styles> I am trying to install Ubuntu with 64bit (Intel Processors). I boot up and my screen is just boxes. (Only with ubuntu)
[05:03] <De[X]tone> afternoon guys...
[05:03] <Ikarius> hrm. I thought most monitors were rectangular....
[05:03] <Styles> Its like green and draker and flickers
[05:03] <deamonknight> Flannel: this is what i get when i type uname -a "Linux deamonknight-laptop 2.6.24-19-386 #1 Wed Aug 20 21:59:50 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:03] <deamonknight> " is this the newest one??
[05:03] <mojo> how do i change my host name?
[05:03] <danbh_intrepid> mmm, arooni-mobile: that guide was written years ago, and they have been making changes to xorg.   Where does xorg list how many buttons your mouse has?
[05:03] <Styles> Any ideas?
[05:03] <bullgard4> Why does there not exist a 'man sgrep'?
[05:03] <arooni-mobile> danbh_intrepid, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:03] <mojo> i am set to zen.no-ip.net but that is not valid; i want to switch to zen.dynalias.net
[05:04] <Cacodemon> Why doesn't Ubuntu show the drive it's installed on? Is it because it shares the drive with Windows Vista?
[05:04] <SebNaitsabes> show the drive where?
[05:04] <ushimitsudoki1> bullgard4: because you haven't installed sgrep?
[05:04] <mojo> !hostname
[05:04] <sely> the drive it's installed on is /
[05:04] <macvr> ﻿acronis trueimage, / !backup > are to crate backups? ......... is there anything that would create a Live CD of the present install?
[05:04] <Flannel> deamonknight: Did you install the -386 version yourself?
[05:05] <Cacodemon> Ubuntu and Vista is on C:/ and I have a D:/ drive.
[05:05] <bullgard4> ushimitsudoki1: Ah!  --  This is very likely the reason. Thank you very much.
[05:05] <arooni> danbh_intrepid, see here: http://pastie.org/270202
[05:05] <acp_> !squeak
[05:05] <danbh_intrepid> arooni-mobile: well, I think the guide was telling you to change the driver, which is why it failed later on.  I would undo everything you did, and just do the xmodmap
[05:05] <sely> there is no C: and D: in linux
[05:05] <SebNaitsabes> Cacodemon:  you cannot access or even see your Ubuntu partition inside  Vista,  unless  you have a driver for that, which is not a very good idea
[05:05] <deamonknight>  Flannel: no, its what got installed when i installed hardy heron
[05:06] <Ikarius> !dpkg-buildpackage
[05:06] <macvr> flannel/ ikarius>>>﻿﻿acronis trueimage, / !backup > are to create backups? ......... is there anything that would create a Live CD of the present install?
[05:06] <arooni> danbh_intrepid, instructions to use xmodmap?
[05:06] <Cacodemon> I can't see the C drive in Ubuntu.
[05:06] <Cpudan80> !dpkg buildpackage
[05:06] <Cpudan80> :-(
[05:06] <SebNaitsabes> Cacodemon: it won't be called C
[05:06] <Cpudan80> hrm...
[05:06] <Flannel> deamonknight: That's odd.  Ok, install linux-generic, then reboot and select it, and then you can remove the -386 images after verifying the -generic one works for a while.
[05:06] <earthbound01> Somebody please help me, I have ubuntu installed, but it thinks my 80 gb hd is only 40gb.
[05:06] <Ikarius> acronis trueimage can create an image that can restore a system to bootable state
[05:07] <deamonknight> Flannel: how do i do that??
[05:07] <Ikarius> I haven't fiddled with the backup packages the bot listed
[05:07] <arooni> how do i get the microsoft natural wireless laser mouse 6000 (mouthful) working fully on ubuntu hardy?
[05:07] <SebNaitsabes> Cacodemon:   open computer go to file system and media folder.   you should be able to access Vista in it
[05:07] <Cacodemon> Then what will it be called?
[05:07] <Cacodemon> Oh, ok.
[05:07] <Flannel> deamonknight: install  "linux-generic"
[05:07] <macvr> ok,so that takes care of the backup.... i want to also create A live CD of my install
[05:08] <macvr> is it possible?
[05:08] <Ikarius> macvr- don't think you'll find anything that does that
[05:08] <Ikarius> that's a pretty complex thing to do
[05:08] <macvr> REMASTERSYS.... has an option to create
[05:08] <Ikarius> and there's generally not enough space on an optical disk anyhow
[05:09] <gaintsura> could someone get the svn for linux uvc for me and send it my way? I cannot get svn to run
[05:09] <SebNaitsabes> Cacodemon: also it should be listed in Computer
[05:09] <ahtmly2k> hey is it possible to download americas army from the terminal?
[05:09] <danbh_intrepid> arooni-mobile: create a file: ~/.Xmodmap             add this line: pointer = 1 8 3 4 5 7 6 2 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20                      swap the numbers as  you see fit (each number corresponds to a button).  Notice how I have buttons 8 and 2 switched.  Thats so my thumb button acts as a middle click
[05:09] <macvr> BUt there is doesnt work with hardy!!!
[05:09] <SebNaitsabes> !wget |  ahtmly2k
[05:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> anyone can help me? i'm trying to install a secondary hard drive on my computer....i have ubuntu installed on this one and i want to add the other as a slave drive but i don't know how, they're both ide not SATA
[05:10] <SebNaitsabes> ahtmly2k: it's either in the repo.  or you can download   with wget as long as you know where to download from
[05:10] <arooni> imwheel -c yields:  expected 3 args, got 1, in config. .... how do i fix?
[05:10] <danbh_intrepid> arooni: see my msg above
[05:10] <arooni> danbh_intrepid, ah ok
[05:10] <macvr> !backup
[05:10] <macvr> !sbackup
[05:10] <macvr> !cloning
[05:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> i tried connecting them already but i think i got the wrong powerchord for the second harddrive as it did some weird noise and was undetected then when i used the powerchord that forks from the one the original harddrive it took a long long time to boot up then for grub to boot and then after the spalsh screen it sent me to this propmpt that said busybox something debian shell
[05:11] <Styles> So Ubuntu is messed up for me I had this is freakin out
[05:11] <Styles> The screen is not right its like blocky colors
[05:11] <Styles> Any ideas? I trid 64 bit and 32 bit
[05:11] <Styles> It only happens once I boot.
[05:12] <ushimitsudoki> Styles: sometimes on my laptop the screen is distorted when i boot up. If I restart X it fixes itself. Did you try that?
[05:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> help?
[05:13] <Styles> ushimitsudoki: what do you mean restart X?
[05:13] <Styles> ushimitsudoki: I can't even see the screen to get to the terminal or to anything.
[05:13] <earthbound01> ﻿Somebody please help me, I have ubuntu installed, but it thinks my 80 gb hd is only 40gb.  I'm booting off of a livecd right now.
[05:13] <tony_> how do i find the md5 of a dvd?
[05:13] <SebNaitsabes> Google for it
[05:14] <Ikarius> md5sum /dev/cdrom
[05:14] <SebNaitsabes> tony_: md5sum  nameofile.iso in Google
[05:14] <ushimitsudoki> Styles: You should be able to restart X with CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE. However, this might not help in your case. I thought you were seeing something, but goofy. Did you try to get a virtual terminal (CTRL-ALT-F1)?
[05:14] <Flannel> !md5 | tony_
[05:14] <SebNaitsabes> lkarius: sure, but he still needs to have the code to compare to
[05:14] <tony_> Flannel: thanks
[05:15] <Ikarius> SebNaitsabes: I answered the question he asked... useful answers cost .50 cents ;)
[05:15] <SebNaitsabes> lkarius:  sure or for free from ubottu :d
[05:15] <Ikarius> heheh
[05:16] <tony_> Flannel: that's for an iso, i need to make sure the dvd is the same
[05:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> can someone here help me add a secondary hard drive?
[05:16] <Flannel> tony_: Its the same way, just for the dvd instead of the iso
[05:16] <Cpudan80> tony_: MD5s don't matter
[05:16] <SebNaitsabes> CostaRicanQuaker:  try #hardware
[05:16] <Cpudan80> tony_: It can be gotten for any file -- even a simple txt file
[05:17] <FactTech> Question: Can anyone help me get DHCP *server* up and running?
[05:18]  * Debolaz finally caves in and installs winamp in wine.
[05:18] <`Matir> I have two SATA drives that both give me messages like http://paste.ubuntu.com/45619/ in dmesg.  No problems with the drives reported by SMART and no other notable errors, seem to work fine.  Any idea what would cause that?
[05:19] <ahtmly2k> i'd like to ask a question; in the synaptic, when i'm about to remove a package, there are two options; 1.mark for removal 2.mark for complete removal... what's the difference?
[05:19] <`Matir> the 2nd option removes configuration files, the 1st leaves them
[05:20] <SebNaitsabes> Dabolaz:  winamp in Wine hummmm there are good native Linux players these days
[05:20] <ahtmly2k> so if i choose the 1st, there'll be sum junk left... right?
[05:20] <Flannel> ahtmly2k: Those are global configuration files.  The userconfigs are never touched.
[05:20] <Flannel> ahtmly2k: Yes
[05:20] <ahtmly2k> ok thnx
[05:20] <`Matir> ahtmly2k, yes, files in /etc usually... useful if you're going to install from source but want to keep your config or anything like that
[05:20] <Kai_wp> wickedpuppy & SebNaitsabes : Sorry for the very long wait for an answer, but I'd like to point out that I do have sound, just not in the media players. >.<
[05:21] <SebNaitsabes> Kai_wp:  ok try this:  sudo killall pulseaudio  then try your music again
[05:21] <ripper> hi everyone
[05:22] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz:  Winamp in Wine hummmmmmmmm  Linux has good native players these days
[05:23] <jason> is there a simple way to remove ATI drivers and start from scratch? Everything was working with the "supported" drivers... then I had the bright idea of installing the ones from ATI. Now everything is all dork'd and I can't get either to work.
[05:23] <SebNaitsabes> !ATI
[05:23] <ripper> i know this is going to sound dumb since i have done this b4 with ez but i cant add a gdm to the login window manager. i hit add in the local tab and navigate to the gdm file but i doest see anything in them
[05:23] <arooni_____> i'm viewing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto ... i found out that with imwheel -c that my side buttons are 6 (should be back in firefox) and 7 (should be forward in firefox)... i already have   None,Left,Alt_L|Left;  None,Right,Alt_L|Right;  in .imhweelrc... what do i do now?
[05:23] <Debolaz> SebNaitsabes: I looked in the add/remove software dialogue, but didn't find many alternatives. The totem player is about as uncomfortable to use as it gets, and audacious seems to have huge performance issues.
[05:24] <Styles> I'll try the virtual terminal now, but how will that help?
[05:24] <Debolaz> SebNaitsabes: Audacious had extremely low sound volume for some reason too, despite every knob on the application and system being turned to maximum.
[05:24] <SebNaitsabes> Debolax:  Banshee has an old version in Hardy, but  there is a repo that can be added so  you  get the version that will be in next Ubuntu  (unless it's slightly upgraded by then)
[05:24] <ripper> i have download alot of different one from www.gnome-look.org but i cant get any of them to add
[05:24] <ripper> any help
[05:24] <Styles> It seems to me that it hates the video card, the box its being installed on is a x8 AGP nvidia 5500 I think (model # could be off)
[05:25] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz: Banshee is meant to be a lot better,  I haven't added that repo myself yet though
[05:25] <yates> i've tried to install the synaptic touchpad driver (apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics - Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server)
[05:26] <yates> but it appears from the /var/log/messages log that the psmouse driver is still installed
[05:26] <yates> yes, i've rebooted
[05:26] <firewall_03> I have a ? when someone gets a chance
[05:26] <Kr0ntab> firewall_03, just ask
[05:27] <yates> any ideas why the synaptic driver isn't being used?
[05:27] <ripper>  i know this is going to sound dumb since i have done this b4 with ez but i cant add a gdm to the login window manager. i hit add in the local tab and navigate to the gdm file but i doest see anything in them
[05:27] <firewall_03> I amd trying to get a wireless card to work with ubuntu 7.04
[05:28] <SebNaitsabes> !wireless
[05:28] <firewall_03> I have been there but its not helping me
[05:28] <mambolefik> Hello !!!
[05:28] <SebNaitsabes> which device?
[05:28] <Kr0ntab> firewall_03, do you know what wireless card you have?
[05:28] <sjea> hi all
[05:28] <firewall_03> dlink dwl-g650
[05:29] <mambolefik> Lost my DVD (unable to mount) doesn't exists anymore.
[05:29] <SebNaitsabes> !mount
[05:29] <SebNaitsabes> oh
[05:29] <SebNaitsabes> mambolefk:  did you unmount it propelry?
[05:29] <mambolefik> Yes
[05:29] <mambolefik> I have it sometimes
[05:31] <mambolefik> My DVD was lost after my last update....
[05:31] <Ikarius> good deal. I simply bypassed compiling the intrepid dhcp packages, downloaded the binaries and installed on heron... and it looks like it worked
[05:31] <firewall_03> I couldn't find the proper driver to use to get the card installed
[05:31] <Debolaz> SebNaitsabes: It's not entirely clear on the page, do I install the package banshee or banshee-1?
[05:31] <Debolaz> After having added the repository.
[05:31] <ripper>  i know this is going to sound dumb since i have done this b4 with ez but i cant add a gdm to the login window manager. i hit add in the local tab and navigate to the gdm file but i doest see anything in them
[05:31] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz: give me the link
[05:31] <Debolaz> SebNaitsabes: http://banshee-project.org/download/
[05:32] <mambolefik> I'm using a laptop : Acer 7720z [ DVD LOST ]
[05:32] <arooni_____> i'm viewing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto ... i found out that with imwheel -c that my side buttons are 6 (should be back in firefox) and 7 (should be forward in firefox)... i already have   None,Left,Alt_L|Left;  None,Right,Alt_L|Right;  in .imhweelrc... what do i do now?
[05:32] <cchapman> anyone setup hylafax before?
[05:33] <firewall_03> any ideas about that card?
[05:33] <Kr0ntab> firewall_03, are you on the computer with the wireless card now?  If so... it would be helpful to get some output pasted in pastebin for us to see...
[05:33] <Kr0ntab> !paste
[05:33] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz:  you don't want that, you want this:  https://edge.launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive
[05:33] <firewall_03> Kr0ntab I have the computer next to me I am using my other laptop
[05:34] <Datz> Is there anyway to update the kernel version to 2.6.25?
[05:34] <mambolefik> Anyone using ACER 7720Z ?
[05:34] <keithclark> Is there a Wubi for Linux?  I love how it works in XP
[05:34] <ahtmly2k> y cant i make pydance to fullscreen?
[05:34] <Debolaz> SebNaitsabes: Ie, banshee-1?
[05:35] <Ikarius> here's a question.... is there a timeline for changing to using upstart for actually managing services?
[05:35] <Ikarius> instead of the scripts in etc/init.d
[05:35] <venger> firewall_03, madwifi   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink
[05:36] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz:  yes just follow the instructions on this page:  https://edge.launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive
[05:36] <arooni________a> i followed; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto to the letter;  but i still cant get firefox back/forward buttons to work :(((
[05:36] <arooni> i followed; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto to the letter;  but i still cant get firefox back/forward buttons to work :(((
[05:36] <mambolefik> [ DVD LOST ] : How to solve : APIC error on CPU0: 00(40) - Triying to use noapic nolapic but doesn't work for me
[05:36] <arooni> oops sorry for respost
[05:37] <venger> firewall_03, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi
[05:38] <Kai_wp> SebNaitsabes: Thanks! It works now. :D
[05:38] <SebNaitsabes> Kai_wp: run that command next time you have problems to
[05:38]  * Debolaz hopes banshee is more intelligent than iTunes when it comes to figuring out song names.
[05:39] <SebNaitsabes> Kai_wp:  also issues like that are meant to be fixed in next Ubunt out at end of October, but you can get a bit earlly if you want,  altough  I won't be upgrading untill the Beta
[05:39] <earthbound01> ﻿Somebody please help me, I have ubuntu installed, but it's reading my 80 gb hdd as only 40 gb.
[05:39] <mambolefik> [ DVD LOST ] : My DVD was lost ( /dev/scd0 vanished ) after my last update of HARDY . Any Idea ?
[05:40] <Debolaz> Heh, there's literally a 5 second delay on the volume control in banshee.
[05:40] <SebNaitsabes> that's good or bad?
[05:41] <whyameye> I need to mount a lvm on top of a raid 1 array on a live cd. Any ideas on how to do this?
[05:42] <bobertdos> earthbound01: What is the output of: sudo fdisk -l (terminal)
[05:42] <bobertdos> ?
[05:43] <hellohello> /echo -a $version
[05:43] <hellohello> $version
[05:43] <hellohello> !help
[05:44] <Flannel> hellohello: Can we help you?
[05:44] <hellohello> um this is my first time using xchat
[05:44] <hellohello> I'm not really sure how things work...
[05:44] <firewall_03> venger are you sure madwifi is whay I am supposed to use
[05:45] <hellohello> sorry I'm a newbie here
[05:45] <compgrokker> hellohello: what are you trying to do? if you have a question, just type it
[05:45] <Bandman614> you're doing a good job typing so far
[05:45] <compgrokker> hellohello: or just sit back and read :)
[05:45] <hellohello> oh ok :)
[05:45] <bobertdos> hellohello: No need to be so apologetic. Just stay polite and we promise we will be as helpful as possible.
[05:46] <Debolaz> SebNaitsabes: It's never a good thing, but it's not a problem I can't cope with.
[05:46] <venger> firewall_03, the doc states madwifi for dlink dwl-g650...
[05:46] <Ikarius> blah. microshaft bungholes.  I knew XP didnt support dhcp option 118, but they dont even support it in vista. it works in apple OSX
[05:46] <firewall_03> venger what was that link again?
[05:46] <earthbound01> bobert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45627/
[05:46] <Realcoolguy> alright, i'm having trouble fitting my tennis shoe inside my computer
[05:47] <venger> firewall_03, in terminal do: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules madwifi-tools
[05:47] <Debolaz> SebNaitsabes: I'll be trying them both for a while, thanks for the tip.
[05:47] <chull> ok our son installed a new hardy on my husband's computer. the screen resolution is stuck at 60 hz.. and flickers.. how can we change that?
[05:47] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz:  Amarok is one loads of peopel like
[05:47] <Realcoolguy> (the guy who sold me the laptop said it'd be great for storage!)  alright, i'll make sure to answer a question for wasting lines like that ;)
[05:47] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz: might have spelt that wrong
[05:47] <Realcoolguy> chull: is the screen a flatscreen?
[05:48] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz: ,but all music players I have tried sucked in some form or theo ther
[05:48] <chull> Realcoolguy,  it's a gateway-VX900 CRT
[05:48] <Debolaz> Banshee uses about twice as much CPU as winamp does, but since winamp barely touches the CPU that's still not a whole lot.
[05:48] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz:  I just use Rythombox
[05:48] <bobertdos> earthbound01: So, this IS a Linux-only system, correct?
[05:48] <firewall_03> venger couldn't find package
[05:49] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz:  Winamp is crappy freeware from AOL
[05:49] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz: and Windows only
[05:49] <venger> firewall_03, because you don't have network?
[05:49] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz: yes runs in Wine, but you should use native Linux apps when you can
[05:49] <firewall_03> venger yes.
[05:49] <earthbound01> bobertdos: linux only.  It used to have XP on it some months ago.
[05:49] <earthbound01> It went from being a windows only system to a linux only system.
[05:50] <Realcoolguy> chull: are you able to change anything on the screen resolution/refresh rate at all?
[05:50] <chull> earthbound01, i'm sure you improved it
[05:50] <Kr0nik> hey can anyone help me with wicd/wireless
[05:50] <chull> Realcoolguy,  resolution yes.. it just doesn't change hz
[05:50] <venger> firewall_03, enable cdrom in Administration->Software sources and load the heron CD?
[05:50] <Debolaz> SebNaitsabes: We'll see if Banshee will be able to replace winamp for me. Finding something that just works without some strange quirk has proven difficult for Linux applications in general.
[05:50] <bobertdos> earthbound01: I ask because the only reason I can think of for an eighty-gig drive being reported as forty would be if there were a partition Linux isn't detecting.
[05:50] <venger> firewall_03, i'm assuming it is bunndled
[05:51] <venger> s/bunndled/bundled
[05:51] <Ubuntu392944> Someone help
[05:51] <chull> Debolaz, that's true .. but ubuntu is better than most for that
[05:51] <firewall_03> venger ok that means nothing to me
[05:51] <Ikarius> Debolas: you might check out songbird
[05:51] <Ubuntu392944> I find Ubuntu to be too awesome. I can't contain myself
[05:51] <Ubuntu392944> Anyway to level the awesomeness down?
[05:51] <Debolaz> chull: If it weren't for Ubuntu I wouldn't even be using *nix on the desktop.
[05:52] <Ubuntu392944> Its affecting my productivity
[05:52] <earthbound01> :chull, much much improved.  bobertdos: I just took the hd out today, and it said on the drive that it is an 80 gb drive.
[05:52] <cheeky> hey room sup; i have a question i was straming music onto my vlc player and then i started to watch a video on veoh.com but the sound didnt play and it was kinda choppy .. but my internet was fine .. so i thought of closing vlc player and check if my sound will be turned on in the video; but even worse.. i triead streaming music again .. on vlc and it doesnt play any music @ all .. could some one help me out ?
[05:52] <Debolaz> Some bugs here and there but alltogether a good experience.
[05:53] <Debolaz> Right now I'm trying to figure out why SMB shares no longer shows in the open dialgue for applications.
[05:53] <SebNaitsabes> Debolaz:  42 of the best free Linux audio software:   http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080622143124178/Audio.html   I also have 3 of those for games
[05:53] <venger> firewall, click System->Administration->Software Sources, enable Installable from CDROM , put the CD in the drive, do sudo apt-get update, then run the previous command
[05:53] <Realcoolguy> chull: do you know if you need to adjust your frequency to get it to not flicker? (IE: What frequency have you used in the past?)
[05:53] <bobertdos> earthbound01: but do you know for a fact that Windows detected it as eighty? How about a live session? Maybe you should check to see if a Live session detects it as 80.
[05:54] <Niche> hello
[05:54] <chull> Realcoolguy, I think we had 85 hz
[05:54] <Debolaz> The only application I have yet to find an open source alternative for is Vmware.
[05:54] <firewall_03> venger ok... I have the latest version of ubuntu, and I am running the 7.04 how do I upgrade
[05:54] <Kr0nik> anyone use wicd?
[05:54] <Realcoolguy> chull: i'm looking and i see a 75hz as a spec
[05:54] <Debolaz> Due to USB requirements.
[05:54] <earthbound01> Windows detected it as 80 gb, and I'm in a live session right now.
[05:55] <Vladimir> i just installed an internal PCI wireless card (Dynex brand, Broadcom chipset). Ubuntu recognizes a wireless card as existing, however i cannot find or connect to my wireless network
[05:55] <Vladimir> help?
[05:55] <chull> Realcoolguy, we would be willing to try 75 .. if we can figure out how to change it .. we can adjust as needed after
[05:55] <Ikarius> no ubunto on the desktop for me, but I'm using it as a home file server, vmware server, and streaming media server for my home theater
[05:55] <Kr0nik> mine finds wireless, and will connect with 0 signal strength
[05:55] <Kr0nik> :P
[05:55] <Realcoolguy> chull: have you installed any ATI or NVIDIA drivers?
[05:55] <earthbound01> bobert: live session says 40 gig, windows said 80 gig.
[05:55] <Niche> Does anyone know how to change the font color of the minimized windows???
[05:55] <compgrokker> Vladimir: did you install the drivers?
[05:55] <SebNaitsabes> !samba |  Debolaz
[05:56] <Conexion2> Hey guys, I recent reformatted my Windows partition, and the BIOS screen that let me choose linux or windows doesn't show up. It goes straight to windows. What can I do to fix this?
[05:56] <firewall_03> !upgrade
[05:56] <venger> firewall_03, do you not have a fiesty cd?
[05:56] <SebNaitsabes> !Grub |  Conexion2
[05:56] <chull> Realcoolguy, we have been fighting it for weeks. our son ssh'ed in from texas and put Hardy on it now. I suspect he thinks he's got the right drivers.. how to check what he did?
[05:56] <firewall_03> venger nope
[05:56] <compgrokker> you also have to fiddle with the networking settings
[05:56] <Vladimir> well no :p let me give it a go
[05:56] <Kr0nik> my wireless doesnt work period
[05:56] <Conexion2> Thanks guys, I figured it's a common issue :P
[05:56] <Kr0nik> right drivers
[05:56] <Kr0nik> sees networks
[05:56] <Kr0nik> but doesnt connect
[05:56] <Realcoolguy> chull: try looking at system>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[05:56] <FloodBot1> Kr0nik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:57] <Conexion2> wasn't sure how to google it :P
[05:57] <Kr0nik> dhcp doesnt hand out ips
[05:57] <SebNaitsabes> Kr0nik:  ndiswrapper or native Linux drivers?
[05:57] <Debolaz> SebNaitsabes: No, the problem is that the shares don't show up in the open dialogue despite that they are mounted.
[05:57] <Kr0nik> i dunno i sued some program to install the firmware right over
[05:57] <Kr0nik> ndiswrapper says im using broadcom drivers but i dont think its using ndiswrapper
[05:57] <Kr0nik> im using wicd to manage my networks
[05:57] <Niche> Does anyone know how to change the font color of the minimized windows???
[05:58] <Kr0nik> iwlist scan shows my network
[05:58] <Kr0nik> i can set a static ip in wicd and hit connect, it connects at 0 dbm
[05:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> help
[05:59] <bobertdos> earthbound01: When you installed Ubuntu, did you allow the installer to completely wipe the drive? Also, what is that extended partition in the list?
[05:59] <chull> Realcoolguy, it says it has NO proprietary drivers
[05:59] <outbackwifi> Kr0nik: is it an undecured network?
[05:59] <firewall_03> venger any ideas?
[05:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> i have an ide hard drive, i tried a second ide harddrive and that didn't fly so i took it out, i added my other computer's ram memory as this had very little memory, now i can't seem to turn off the computer
[05:59] <venger> firewall_03, on what?
[05:59] <jigp> hello how to defrag ubuntu 8.04 desktop?
[05:59] <outbackwifi> Kr0nik: unsecured
[05:59] <Kr0nik> yeah
[06:00] <JoshH> when i doubleclick text in any gnome application, it only selects letter and number characters.   any dots or dashes or similar seems to be a boundary.  so for example, i cannot double click to select an ip address.  can anyone tell me how to fix that?
[06:00] <Realcoolguy> chull: you probably need to install an ATI or NVIDIA Driver to get your display working fully
[06:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> sure the mmeory must be working as the computer's faster
[06:00] <outbackwifi> Kr0nik: does it have dhcp enabled
[06:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> but it doesnt let me turn off the computer when it shuts off it says there's not a daemon or something
[06:00] <Kr0nik> the router yes
[06:00] <bobertdos> !defrag > jigp
[06:00] <Realcoolguy> Chull: can you confirm that you have an ATI or NVIDIA card?
[06:00] <Kr0nik> on here no
[06:00] <Kr0nik> i set a static ip
[06:00] <JoshH> non-gnome applications have the normal double click selection, but i can't find any preference about that anywhere
[06:00] <Kr0nik> if i set it to dhcp and hit connect it wont obtain a ip
[06:00] <Ikarius> JoshH: don't think that's tunable
[06:01] <JoshH> Ikarius: i do have another hardy box at work, and it doesn't have the same issue.
[06:01] <firewall_03> venger what do I need to type to upgrade from 7.04 to the latest version I tryed booting from the cd and that didn't work but the cd worked on my other computer
[06:01] <Ikarius> JoshH: interesting. I've never seen any other behaviour than what you described
[06:02] <venger> firewall_03,  did you try sticking it in while booted and see if wanted to upgrade?
[06:02] <cheeky> could anyone tell me why all of a sudden my music doesnt comeback on when my speakers are on and my volume bar is to the max..i was streaming music b4on vlc and i started to play veoh videos in the browser .. and there was no sound from the video .. except vlc still had sound .. but when i stopped vlc .. .. and tried veoh ... still no sound and now i have no sound ... wat could be the problem?
[06:02] <Jordan_U> firewall_03: You can't upgrade directly from 7.04 to 8.04, you need to upgrade to 7.10 first then 8.04
[06:02] <ph0rensic> Grub is not autofinding my windows partition, and I don't quite understand how to make an entry to GRUB.. Any experienced users want to take a stab at it?
[06:02] <firewall_03> Jordan_U why does that matter
[06:02] <firewall_03> venger yes I did
[06:02] <outbackwifi> Kr0nik: if you do sudo dhclient ath0 (if that is your wireless interface) wht do you get
[06:02] <Jordan_U> firewall_03: Also, only the alternate CD / DVD can do upgrades
[06:03] <slashjamiec> ph0rensic: Looks like you've got a date with fstab :)
[06:03] <venger> firewall_03, there you go, burn another cd or actually why not just burn a fiesty cd and fix the network first by installing the madwifi package from the cd
[06:03] <Kr0nik> outback can i pm it to you?
[06:03] <ph0rensic> slashjamiec: What does fstab have to do with it?
[06:03] <firewall_03> venger I don't have the fiesty cd iso
[06:04] <ph0rensic> slashjamiec: I dont want to mount the drive.. i got it to do that
[06:04] <venger> firewall_03, download it
[06:04] <outbackwifi> Kr0nik: pastebin it pls
[06:04] <ph0rensic> slashjamiec: I want to be able to boot to windows for some obscure programs I need to run
[06:04] <slashjamiec> ph0rensic: Ooops. You want to be able to select the partition to boot from?
[06:04] <earthbound01> did chat go idle?
[06:04] <slashjamiec> ph0rensic: I see.
[06:05] <RickZilla> Ok, trying this again...apparently, the file I downloaded was corrupt somehow...going to try a different mirror and see what happens
[06:05] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: menu.lst takes center stage here :D
[06:05] <ph0rensic> slashjamiec: yah..It's weird because it always showed up in the boot menu till I installed kubuntu on a seperate drive a few weeks ago, and since then grub doesn't auto find it, even though it is on the same disk as my main ubuntu install
[06:05] <venger> anyone know for sure that the madwifi-tools package in distributed on the CDrom, i guess in fiesty it was in universe at that time.  i dont know the rules on that and i dont want to unknowingly mislead firewall_03
[06:05] <firewall_03> venger whats the download link for the older versions
[06:06] <slashjamiec> ph0rensic: Oh yeah ...ummm well
[06:06] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: I agree, I just am not confident on how to write it.. actually here is a question, Say I have two drives both with linux drives on them, how do you tell which drive is loading grub?
[06:06] <earthbound01> bobertdos: when I installed Ubuntu I did allow it to completely wipe the drive.  I have no idea what the extended partition is for.
[06:07] <Madpilot> venger, madwifi-tools looks to still be in Universe; whether it's also on the CD-Rom I don't know.
[06:07] <slashjamiec> ph0rensic: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst , then add a # infront of "hiddenmenu", and then try that. If it doesn't show your bootable windows partition then you'll need to manually enter it by
[06:07] <venger> firewall_03, acquaint yourself with google, search term; download fiesty
[06:07] <Kr0nik> outback: http://pastebin.com/m668e3269
[06:07] <slashjamiec> ph0rensic: title Windows
[06:08] <slashjamiec> root (hd0,4)
[06:08] <slashjamiec> savedefault
[06:08] <slashjamiec> makeactive
[06:08] <slashjamiec> chainloader +1
[06:08] <FloodBot1> slashjamiec: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:08] <RickZilla> ok, when I create a disk image for the file ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso, it should create a Live cd where I can try out Ubuntu, right?  For some reason, I'm not getting the "Start" option
[06:08] <firewall_03> venger no need to be a douche thats what I am doing
[06:08] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: If you've ever read the grub wiki entry, you would see that the partition in control is whatever "find /boot/grub/stage1" returns.
[06:08] <venger> firewall_03, well good luck on the remainder of your endeavor
[06:08] <Niche> Has anyone gotten MediaTomb to work correctly with their PS3 yet on 8.04???
[06:09] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: Thanks but you don't have to chastise me :-)
[06:09] <firewall_03> venger I will probably be back to ask more questions if u can stomach to answer me
[06:10] <danbh_intrepid> RickZilla: no
[06:10] <ph0rensic> slashjamiec: I know it doesn't show up on the menu because I have several entries for other OS's
[06:10] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: Didn't mean it that way, sorry. I just am used to interpreting things for people. Actually, it's whichever partition grub regards as root.
[06:10] <slashjamiec> ph0rensic: okay
[06:10] <RickZilla> Ok, how do I create a Live CD then/
[06:10] <_phoenix_> i cant unse dpkg
[06:10] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: Doesn't that depend on which OS I am currently in though?
[06:11] <ph0rensic> Or which drive I am booted in to?
[06:11] <_phoenix_> Starting Monitor Daemon for Secure Virtual Private Network: cp: cannot stat `/etc/inittab': No such file or directory
[06:11] <_phoenix_> invoke-rc.d: initscript secvpnmon, action "start" failed.
[06:11] <Jordan_U> _phoenix_: Why not?
[06:11] <danbh_intrepid> RickZilla: the alternate cd, is not the livecd.  the livecd IS the livecd.  Thats the main difference...
[06:11] <_phoenix_> dont know
[06:11] <RickZilla> ah, ok...that's available for download also?  I musta missed it
[06:11] <Jordan_U> _phoenix_: Can you pastebin the errors if any you get when you try?
[06:11] <danbh_intrepid> RickZilla: ya
[06:11] <_phoenix_> Starting Monitor Daemon for Secure Virtual Private Network: cp: cannot stat `/etc/inittab': No such file or directory
[06:11] <_phoenix_> invoke-rc.d: initscript secvpnmon, action "start" failed.
[06:11] <_phoenix_> there is it
[06:12] <_phoenix_> !paste
[06:12] <RickZilla> On this page, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download, I'm not sure which one to download, if I want to create a Live CD
[06:12] <outbackwifi> Kr0nik: this doesnt look like you're connecting to the access point at all --> Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=0 dBm  Noise level=0 dBm
[06:12] <earthbound01> I'm off to bed, thanks for looking in to stuff.  If anybody has anyplace I should look regarding my harddrive misreading, please let me know.
[06:12] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: Well, Windows is usually regarded as its own root because generally Grub chainloads Windows. Otherwise, it really just comes down to whichever partition you set as Grub's root when you follow that wiki.
[06:13] <Kr0nik> it says that even when i hit connect in wicd
[06:13] <danbh_intrepid> RickZilla: did you check the little box??  you want it unchecked...
[06:13] <balrog> how do i get thunderbird to display html mail?
[06:13] <balrog> *correctly
[06:13] <_phoenix_> jordan_u http://paste.ubuntu.com/45636/
[06:13] <hustledaily> Anyone here ever have problems with madwifi/wpa_supplicant and setting wpa-psk? I can see the card and see networks but cannot set my wpa key. I have the config file set, and tried to use wpa_cli with no success... ALL help appreciated!
[06:14] <RickZilla> danbh_intrepid:  The one right below "Start Download"?  It's unchecked...and I'm pretty sure it was unchecked when I downloaded it earlier
[06:15] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: I suppose if I knew a little more about the boot process and MBR etc It'd make a little more sense
[06:15] <_phoenix_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/45636/ can anyone help me to fix this?
[06:15] <Jordan_U> _phoenix_: Would you mind filing a bug report against the secvpn package?
[06:15] <_phoenix_> jordan_u what?
[06:15] <danbh_intrepid> RickZilla: http://samaritan.ucmerced.edu/ubuntu-releases/cd/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[06:16] <JoshH> Ikarius: i got it fixed for gnome-terminal (which i cared about the most, by far) by adding some character classes to the "select-by-word characters" box in the profile settings
[06:16] <danbh_intrepid> RickZilla: I even hacked your location, and tried to pick a good server for you!
[06:16] <RickZilla> danbh_intrepid:  Thanks, somehow I downloaded the other one
[06:16] <JoshH> somehow i never noticed that there before
[06:16] <RickZilla> ha, thanks
[06:16] <Jordan_U> _phoenix_: That error seems to be a bug in the secvpn package that should be fixed, if you report it hopefully someone else won't have the same problem that you are having in the future
[06:16] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: My menu.lst looks like this, as an example. On average, my Windows entry is the standard. http://paste.ubuntu.com/45637/
[06:16] <outbackwifi> Kr0nik: how far away are you from the AP?
[06:16] <RickZilla> There's actually a mirror about 40 miles from here, but it's really slow
[06:17] <Kr0nik> my router?
[06:17] <Kr0nik> like 15 feet
[06:17] <Jordan_U> _phoenix_: Either way, do you need the secvpn package installed or is OK to remove it to get dpkg working again?
[06:17] <danbh_intrepid> RickZilla: well, you are from, Oregon, which I guessed is near Cali, so I pick the one in CA
[06:17] <RickZilla> There are about 3 closer...but this is working just fine
[06:17] <RickZilla> Walla Walla U., University of Idaho, and Oregon State University
[06:18] <RickZilla> This one is faster than those 3, I think
[06:18] <Jordan_U> RickZilla: Try using Software Source's automatic repository chooser
[06:18] <RickZilla> I've had a heck of a time getting the right file tonight...the first one was corrupt
[06:18] <chull> Realcoolguy, it sort of crashed but as son says "not entirely" .. someone flooded us off of undernet on all my clients..dunno if it's all related to the vonage phone losing it's call log (don't you love technology?)
[06:19] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: Here is my current config .. I sort of deleted on of the other OS's that was on my other drive so now just 2 OS's and windows is missing http://paste.ubuntu.com/45638/
[06:19] <bobertdos> earthbound01: I would maybe try installing Ubuntu again, and if you didn't the first time, use manual control so you can delete every existing partition yourself, and so that nothing happens that you don't know about.
[06:19] <argento> guys widescreen support on virtualbox is only supported on installed OS? I try to configure wide resolution on live cd trial...
[06:19] <Realcoolguy> chull: the menu i sent you to should let you install the driver as well, at least i think...
[06:19] <RickZilla> The help in here has been well appreciated, btw...I've never been on an IRC channel where the help came so quickly
[06:20] <b4b3> hello
[06:20] <Jordan_U> argento: You may be able to install virtualbox tools in the liveCD session, did you try that?
[06:20] <ph0rensic> RickZilla: Yes the Ubuntu channel rocks
[06:20] <RickZilla> A couple other IRC's I frequent are plain rude
[06:20] <RickZilla> GIMP, for one...and I use that software all the time
[06:20] <argento> Jordan_U, can you explain how?
[06:20] <ph0rensic> RickZilla: Try asking a simple question in Myth-users!
[06:20] <RickZilla> ha
[06:21] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: So, all that Mint stuff is also still part of your system, or no?
[06:22] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: This has to be the wrong menu.lst
[06:22] <RickZilla> My ultimate goal:  Get handy with installing/using Ubuntu, and install them on some older machines so I can loan them out to families from our school who don't otherwise have access to a computer
[06:22] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: I don't have 7.10 anymore (LinuxMCE with kubuntu)
[06:22] <outbackwifi> Kr0nik: which driver did you use with ndiswrapper?
[06:23] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: it should only be 8.04 Ubuntu and Mint
[06:23] <outbackwifi> Kr0nik: was it WinXP or Windows 98?
[06:23] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: Oh, well where did you pull it from?
[06:23] <Kr0nik> bcmwl5
[06:24] <Kr0nik> um i do not know
[06:24] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: My last install was the latest mint.. so I should go to that partition and pull the list from there?
[06:24] <Kr0nik> i can setup a shell acount for you and you can check it out
[06:24] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: Well, if Mint happens to be the dominant loader right now, then yes.
[06:25] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: haah figured ok copying it now..
[06:25] <Kr0nik> i found a program in the ubuntu forums that had a python install file. i ran it and set it up to copy the firmware over and then the lights went on on my card
[06:25] <Jordan_U> _phoenix_: It seems someone else has already filed a bug report, do you need secvpn or is it OK to remove it to get dpkg working again?
[06:26] <Kr0nik> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990 i followed that
[06:26] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45641/   .. How does BIOS know where to look for the correct menu to load?
[06:27] <ushimitsudoki> I am trying to adjust the latency of some devices. However after the appropriate "sudo setpci", when I check with "lspci -v", the latency values remain the same as before. Why can I not adjust the latencies?
[06:28] <kindofabuzz> uname -p  unknown   good or bad?
[06:29] <Ubuntu392944> Does ubuntu have like a central control center? To edit settings? Or just the usual KDE control panel? (Sorry if I sound confused, its because I somewhat am! im new to this distro)
[06:29] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: Well, when Grub gets installed, it either gets installed directly onto the Master Boot Record (which is generally not the way people prefer to do it), or it gets installed to a specific partition, in which case I suppose a little flag or something like that is set upon the MBR to let the system know to jump there.
[06:29] <Kr0nik> kindofabuzz: i get that too.
[06:30] <kindofabuzz> Kr0nik, probably no biggie, it's supposed to list your processor.  are you amd by any chance?
[06:30] <Kr0nik> yeah
[06:31] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: If there are 2 drives that are both able to boot OS's how does it know which to choose? the MBR is in the first 512-byte sector of the HDD no?
[06:32] <Gnuyen> is there a way to make cp make all the directories
[06:32] <Gnuyen> in a path
[06:32] <Flannel> ph0rensic: the BIOS does
[06:32] <Gnuyen> like if i do cp testfile /someplace/someotherplace/testfile
[06:32] <kevin_> I'm running Hardy on an HP v6000, anyone have problems with the SYSTEM Standby? -- mine doesn't work...
[06:32] <Kr0nik> kindofabuzz: are you trying to find out what cpu you have?
[06:32] <ylmario> hey
[06:32] <Jordan_U> Gnuyen: You can use mkdir -p first
[06:32] <Gnuyen> and have it make the directories /someplace/someotherplace
[06:32] <Kr0nik> kindofabuzz: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:32] <ph0rensic> Flannel: Info gets stored onto the BIOS flagging which drives to look for the MBR?
[06:32] <ylmario> does anyone know how to get atheros cards working on ubuntu
[06:32] <kindofabuzz> Kr0nik, yeah i know, i'm just messing with commands
[06:33] <Flannel> ph0rensic: The BIOS is configured to boot to one of the drives or the other.
[06:33] <Gnuyen> Jordan_U: but no way to do it with cp or some other thing?
[06:33] <Assargadon> is it possible to find my logins and logouts history somehow?
[06:34] <^Phantom^[linux]> Hi :D
[06:34] <^Phantom^[linux]> This is cool
[06:34] <Jordan_U> Gnuyen: What do you mean "or some other thing"?
[06:34] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: So, if you take into account Flannel's point, part of your probably could be that your BIOS' boot priority is set to the drive opposite of what you want.
[06:34] <Gnuyen> Jordan_U: a different command
[06:34] <Gnuyen> basically I have a list of files and I don't want to have to parse out the path and pass it into mkdir
[06:34] <^Phantom^[linux]> Now, just one question
[06:34] <Gnuyen> and then do the copy
[06:35] <kervel> hello, my keyboard mappings are completely broken since last upgrade in ubuntu intrepid ... is this a known problem ?
[06:35] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: *part of your problem, I meant to say
[06:35] <Gnuyen> i want to do it with one command if possible
[06:35] <Kr0nik> Assargadon: try cat/dev/log/auth.log
[06:35] <kervel> no more alt gr, no more arrow keys, ..
[06:35] <^Phantom^[linux]> How can I get this VM to let the resolution go above 800x600?
[06:35] <Kr0nik> Assargadon: try cat /dev/log/auth.log
[06:35] <Kr0nik> woops
[06:35] <Kr0nik> missed a space lol
[06:35] <vn> hai, I'm with a laptop on a livecd and I want to test the CPU cooling that I just fixed, what would be a CPU intensive command I could use?
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Gnuyen: It would be a simple script using the "dirname" command
[06:35] <hateball> Assargadon: That'd be /var/log/auth.log , not /dev
[06:35] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: I doubt it because the partition that has windows on it is the same as the other two OS's, I formatted the whole other drive just to see if that could be part of the problem for auto configuration of grub, and it didn't do anything
[06:36] <Kr0nik> yeah i ment var
[06:36] <Gnuyen> hrm
[06:36] <Gnuyen> that'll work
[06:36] <Kr0nik> woops big slip
[06:36] <Gnuyen> thanks
[06:36] <^P[ubuntu]^> there, shorter nick :D
[06:36] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: It is strange because grub has never done this to me before.. but also a good learning experience..
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Gnuyen: mkdir $( dirname $DESTINATION ) && cp $SOURCE $DESTINATION
[06:37] <Gnuyen> mkdir -p /backup/`dirname $filename`; cp $filename /backup$filename
[06:37] <Gnuyen> Jordan_U: or like that too
[06:37] <Nu> 1
[06:37] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: Well, it seems to be that the loader with Mint in the list is the dominant one right now. Is that accurate?
[06:38] <Niche> Has anyone gotten MediaTomb to work correctly with their PS3 yet on 8.04???
[06:38] <EK9> Got a question! I'am using Transmission for downloading an Torrent file. And on Windows XP i was able to download at 300k\sec and on Ubuntu, i just downloading at 2k\sec... WHY? Please!
[06:38] <balz> how do you delete a directory and all of it's contents via command line?
[06:38] <Nu> มันเล่นยังงัยอ่ะ
[06:38] <Kr0nik> rm -f /directory
[06:38] <Jordan_U> balz: rm -r
[06:38] <Nu> พระเจ้าจอซ
[06:39] <balz> thanks
[06:39] <Niche> be careful now @! lol
[06:39] <Tha_Vampyr> Just wondering if anyone is using gtksee with gnome, and if so can they give me some pointers to get it going (newb)
[06:39] <Jordan_U> Kr0nik: Please don't suggest using -f when it is not needed
[06:39] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: Absolutely, so now we just have to edit it to work with my windows partition which I found to be on sdb1 btw..
[06:39] <Nu> ใครก็ได้ สอนหน่อย
[06:39] <balz> Jordan_U what's the difference?
[06:39] <Niche> do you know what rm -f /directory/ * would do
[06:39] <ph0rensic> the empty drive is sda1 ...
[06:39] <wat> okay I have a computer with no cdrom, if I go and buy a USB cdrom, will I be able to dl ubuntu and burn it to a CD then create a new partition on comp with the USB cdrom and install ubuntu that way???? will that work????
[06:40] <^P[ubuntu]^> crap i forgot how to mount my shared folder... <_< lol
[06:40] <ThePub> wat: if your mb supports it, sure
[06:40] <wat> i have a flash drive but apparently that wont be able to partition the drive
[06:40] <EJ> wat: if your pc's bios supports booting from usb
[06:40] <wat> so im guessing i have to buy a cdrom usb drive or something
[06:40] <Jordan_U> balz: One forces deletion even if there is a possible reason why the file shouldn't be deleted ( though it doesn't actually work with directories with -f alone ) the other recursively deletes all files in he directory and the directory itself
[06:40] <ThePub> wat: you could do it from flash too with a little work and another computer.
[06:40] <ph0rensic> ^P[ubuntu]^:  Can you navigate to it and right click mount?
[06:41] <wat> yah it has the options
[06:41] <wat> pub how, im clueless with linux is prob
[06:41] <balz> Jordan_U thanks!
[06:41] <wat> but id rather do it from flash drive
[06:41] <vn> Nu: english please, not sure if there's a thai help channel
[06:41] <hateball> !thai
[06:41] <Assargadon> hateball, Kr0nik : thanks. There are no such files in my ubuntu insatllation, but it helps me to find "last" command :)
[06:41] <EK9> Got a question! I'am using Transmission for downloading an Torrent file. And on Windows XP i was able to download at 300k\sec and on Ubuntu, i just downloading at 2k\sec... WHY? Please!
[06:41] <hateball> Nope, guess not
[06:41] <vn> heh
[06:41] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: Alright, well Grub's labeling scheme is a bit different, but sdb1 probably means hd(1,0). Based on that, I'm guessing Windows was the first OS installed to your second hard drive, Ubuntu second, and Mint third. Correct?
[06:41] <vn> btw, I'm with a laptop on a livecd and I want to test the CPU cooling that I just fixed, what would be a CPU intensive command I could use?
[06:41] <Tha_Vampyr> ﻿/msg nickserv register chaotic richard@chaoticbydesign.com
[06:42] <Nu> เล่นงัยอ่ะ
[06:42]  * vn spams
[06:42] <vn> :p
[06:42] <Jordan_U> Tha_Vampyr: Might want to change your password :)
[06:42] <EJ> wat: read this page it will explain all. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[06:42] <Tha_Vampyr> yes yes i might :P
[06:42] <Tha_Vampyr> that said i dont actually have one :P
[06:42] <RickZilla> Just so I've got this straight...nothing in Ubuntu will support .mp3 files, but I can always download and install something like Songbird and play them from there...is that correct?
[06:43] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: The order is complicated BUT the partitions is somewhat like sdb1=windows, sdb2=linux root sdb3=swap sdb4=linux mint lemme double check that
[06:43] <hateball> RickZilla: Lots of applications support ,mp3, you just need the restricted codecs
[06:43] <^P[ubuntu]^> i'll try
[06:44] <RickZilla> ah, so Songbird wouldn't necessarily have that codec
[06:44] <magnetron> RickZilla, every app in ubuntu will support mp3 if you just get the right codecs. install the package "ubuntu-restricted-extras" and you should be set
[06:44] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: I knew there was something awry with GRUB's schema
[06:44] <^P[ubuntu]^> no
[06:44] <magnetron> RickZilla, exactly
[06:44] <RickZilla> good to know...thanks, do I just google that to download?
[06:44] <ph0rensic> RickZilla: Do it from the command line or use synaptic package manager
[06:44] <Aorjang> เอ้ย
[06:44] <hateball> RickZilla: Use the add/remove application
[06:44] <^P[ubuntu]^> ph0rensic: VirtualBox told me to type some kind of command
[06:44] <^P[ubuntu]^> I forgot what to type <_<
[06:45] <magnetron> RickZilla, no. go to Applications > add/remove, then find the package named "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[06:45] <RickZilla> ...ok, but I need to download that package first, correct?
[06:45] <RickZilla> ah, ok...gotcha
[06:45] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: Yup, but at any rate, I would put an entry in for Windows using hd(1,0). That's my guess.
[06:45] <NCommander> http://blueballfixed.ytmnd.com/ o_o;
[06:45] <RickZilla> I'm still trying to get a clean download!  :-)
[06:45] <reqqit> join #linuxhelp
[06:45] <reqqit> damn slash
[06:45] <magnetron> RickZilla, you don't need to download anything manually
[06:45] <Aorjang> hello
[06:45] <magnetron> RickZilla, just follow the instruction i gave you.
[06:46] <RickZilla> gotcha...I'm on my 3rd d/l attempt...the first one was corrupted, the 2nd was the wrong file
[06:46] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: I was correct in my partitioning scheme
[06:46] <Aorjang> my name is aorjang
[06:46] <^P[ubuntu]^> ph0rensic:  I have the folder set up in VirtualBox but ubuntu is not seeing it
[06:46] <Aorjang> ชีวิต
[06:46] <Aorjang> อยากเล่นแต่เล่นมะเปง
[06:46] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: Good, well it sounds like you're getting things under control. I'll back off now, :D
[06:47] <patrick> um
[06:47] <patrick> hi
[06:47] <patrick> i need some help
[06:47] <Aorjang> มะมีคนไทยเลย
[06:47] <patrick> with my essay
[06:47] <Aorjang> 5555555555555555
[06:47] <FloodBot1> patrick: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:47] <FloodBot1> Aorjang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:47] <ph0rensic> ^P[ubuntu]^: hang on bud
[06:47] <^P[ubuntu]^> thank you :)
[06:47] <Guest81291> Aorjang sa wad dee
[06:47] <Jordan_U> !english | Aorjang
[06:48] <Guest81291> Aorjan‎g is speaking thai
[06:48] <reqqit> Is using ubuntu live CD for disk recovery / data recovery a useful idea? Anyone had to recover data from a drive?
[06:48] <johninlex> Darn you all know there is no way to use up 6gig of ram I cant gegt no closes than 98% any ony know how to use the other 2%? or why I cant use it
[06:48] <Aorjang> yer
[06:48] <patrck> see
[06:48] <Aorjang> yes
[06:48] <co_anuh> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:48] <patrck> i know because i'm thai also
[06:48] <Aorjang> speak thai
[06:48] <patrck> sa bai dee mai?
[06:48] <Aorjang> i do not play
[06:48] <Flannel> !english
[06:49] <patrck> flannel can u help me with my essay
[06:49] <Flannel> patrck: No, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:49] <patrck> word
[06:49] <Tha_Vampyr> anyone using GTKSee?
[06:49] <Tha_Vampyr> (on gnome)
[06:50] <bobertdos> reqqit: Oh yes, heck yes, I've used Ubuntu Live sessions for so many backup/recovery type things, and I love it!
[06:50] <Niche> am I able to still use my gnome desktop if I enable and install kcontrol?
[06:50] <Jordan_U> Niche: Yes
[06:50] <bobertdos> !recover > reqqit
[06:50] <lunat1que> quelqu'un parle francais ici ?
[06:50] <patrck> flanned whats some good apllication
[06:51] <balz> how do i connect to a wpa2 wifi network on the command line?
[06:51] <reqqit> bobertdos, cheers - burning the live CD again (gave away last copy)
[06:51] <bobertdos> !fr | lunat1que
[06:51] <Niche> Jordan_U, so if I edit my minimized windows font color with kcontrol it will still work even though I use gnome, right?
[06:51] <lunat1que> tnx ubottu
[06:51] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: Ok so the 0 of hd(1,0) stands for the first partition of that disk? so it doesn't account for the first boot part of the disk??
[06:51] <wat> so what ubuntu do I need to install if I plan on burning it to a disk to use to boot/reformat my comp??
[06:51] <^P[ubuntu]^> Also, can I get the clipboards to "combine"
[06:51] <^P[ubuntu]^> so that I can easily copy text and files back and forth
[06:52] <balz> what's the cli command to connect to a wireless network?
[06:52] <Jordan_U> Niche: I don't think that kcontol will change any gnome preferences
[06:52] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: correct
[06:52] <Flannel> ph0rensic: By the time you get to GRUB, you're already past the MBR stage of the boot process
[06:52] <Bandman614> balz: I use "iwconfig <int> essid any"
[06:53] <Bandman614> then I run "iwconfig <int>" to see what essid it picked up. you can specify what essid you want it to get, instead of "any"
[06:53] <balz> Bandman614:  can you help me break that command down?  what is <int> essid any?
[06:53] <UUd> hai
[06:53] <ph0rensic> Flannel: Thanks I realize this, Im just coming to terms with how grub reads the drives
[06:53] <Bandman614> Well, for me, <int> is eth1. Some people it's wlan0. If you run "iwconfig" by itself, it'll tell you which one to use, because the others won't have wireless extensions
[06:53] <Bandman614> I think that's the terminology
[06:53] <Flannel> ph0rensic: the same way linux does, just with only numbers, and starting at 0
[06:54] <ph0rensic> Flannel: How does it determine between SATA and PATA, how does it issue priority?
[06:54] <Bandman614> essid any just says "pick up whichever wireless signal is the strongest"
[06:54] <balz> !l33tBandman614... i get lo and eth0 ... with no wireless extensions when i run iwconfig... is something wrong?
[06:54] <Flannel> ph0rensic: Its given a list of drives by the BIOS, so the bios handles that sorting.
[06:55] <ph0rensic> Flannel: OIC thanks dude.
[06:55] <Bandman614> balz: Your wireless driver isn't loaded. Do you know what kind of card you have?
[06:55] <bex> anyone able to give some advice on access the windows shares in nautilus. I have ubuntu 8.04, i have joined the windows domain successfully using likewise. however when i browse the network shares, the servers appear but not the shares within them. eg. smb://rtisrv/ has an empty window yet smb://rtisrv/rtiday (though it asks me for a username and password)
[06:55] <balz> Bandman614:  yes it's a ralink chipset.  rt2860
[06:56] <chull>  if 'escape' isn't working how can i get out of vi insert mode?
[06:56] <johninlex> anyone know how to save an image that is 26498X2254, I just created my own skydome pic and I cant save it
[06:56] <Rat409> chull: try :c
[06:57] <Bandman614> balz: Looks like this guy manually downloaded the source and compiled it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=683085
[06:57] <balz> Bandman614.  yeah that's what i just did
[06:57] <essial> ﻿Anyone know why I would get an "/lib/libc.so.6: file not recognized: File format not recognized" while trying to bootstrap the latest gcc (4.3.2)?
[06:57] <chull> Rat409, not if you can't get out of insert mode to make : work
[06:58] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: If I manually add a grub menu that is incorrect, will I still be able to boot back to the known good options>
[06:58] <johninlex> anyone know how to save an image that is 26498X22541 please help
[06:58] <Rat409> chull: hmm i'm no vi wiz maybe :q
[06:58] <ph0rensic> johninlex: Are you sure it is a resolution problem?
[06:58] <Bandman614> balz: ok. Did it give you a module to load, or does it interact with ndis?
[06:59] <johninlex> no
[06:59] <Bandman614> I don't have any experience with this chip, in case you were curious ;-)
[06:59] <balz> Bandman614:  i'm not sure.  how can i check?
[06:59] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: Yes you should, and of course, if things go particularly bad, you can use a Live session to mount the drive and edit the file from there.
[06:59] <Bandman614> Did the "make" finish successfully?
[06:59] <balz> Bandman614:  no worries. i'm sure you know more than I do
[06:59] <balz> Bandman614:  as far as i could tell yes. i saw no error codes
[07:00] <johninlex> I can save the smaller one that I created earler, but I cant save this huge image ph0rensic
[07:00] <essial> are you talking to me bandman?
[07:00] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: I loaded gparted to check my partitions and for the flags under the windows partition it didn't show it having a bootable flag, could this be why grub isn't finding it during its automatic search or is this normally how it will appear?
[07:00] <Bandman614> essial: no, sorry. balz
[07:00] <balz> Bandman614:  could this be a module?    MODPOST 1 modules
[07:00] <balz>   LD [M]  /home/louis/RaLink/os/linux/rt2860sta.ko
[07:01] <Bandman614> Could be. Can you paste the output into here and post the url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:01] <ph0rensic> johninlex: That is strange, Im not quite sure how to trouble shoot that, are you saving it to the same folder you saved in before?
[07:01] <Bandman614> yea
[07:01] <Bandman614> that's the url
[07:01] <Bandman614> err
[07:01] <Bandman614> module
[07:01] <Bandman614> (it's late)
[07:01] <balz> haha okay
[07:01] <FloodBot1> Bandman614: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:01] <balz> Bandman614. indeed it is!
[07:01] <ph0rensic> ^P[ubuntu]^:  What was the issue again?
[07:01] <Bandman614> heh.
[07:01] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: Possibly, I'm not a hundred percent certain to be perfectly honest.
[07:01] <balz> so what do i do with the module?
[07:01] <ph0rensic> Flannel: ?? ^^
[07:01] <Bandman614> ok, balz. type "sudo insmod /home/louis/RaLink/os/linux/rt2860sta.ko"
[07:02] <Bandman614> that's saying "insert this module into the kernel"
[07:02] <aj_> i have bluetooth in my laptop...how do i use it in ubuntu?
[07:02] <Flannel> ph0rensic: bootable flags mean nothing to almost all OSes
[07:02] <johninlex> ph0rensic , I have tried to use another folder and the same one, diff. names, diff formats about everything I can think of
[07:02] <balz> Bandman614:  i think it succeeded silently
[07:02] <Bandman614> which will hopefully provide you the interface
[07:02] <Bandman614> excellent
[07:02] <balz> iwconfig?
[07:02] <Bandman614> run "iwconfig" again without any options
[07:02] <bobertdos> Flannel: Forgive me for being ot a moment, but I just want to give you ops credit where credit is due. I don't know how you guys do this every day. It's tiring! :D
[07:02] <^P[ubuntu]^> getting my shared folder to mount to linux with VirtualBox
[07:02] <ph0rensic> Flannel: Ok thanks I like u
[07:02] <johninlex> it would be a nicest skydome pic ever if I could save it, ph0rensic
[07:02] <balz> Bandman:  we are getting somewhere!  let me pastebin
[07:03] <Bandman614> ok, try the "iwconfig <interface> essid auto" again
[07:03] <Flannel> bobertdos: we appreciate it
[07:03] <ph0rensic> johninlex: Make sure you are saving to a folder that you have permission to write to
[07:04] <balz> bandman614:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/45649/
[07:04] <johninlex> ph0rensic I am the only user, thats not the problem
[07:04] <ph0rensic> Well you and root.
[07:04] <balz> Bandman:  what do i replace <interface> with?
[07:04] <Bandman614> hah, that's great :)
[07:05] <Bandman614> ra0
[07:05] <Bandman614> iwconfig ra0 essid any
[07:05] <johninlex> ph0rensic, yes I have no root, i took the root user out, I know I shouldnt have but i did
[07:05] <patrck> how do u spell suprise
[07:05] <aj_> can anyone tell me how to use bluetooth in ubuntu...iam not able to send or recieve any file
[07:05] <ph0rensic> surprise
[07:05] <Bandman614> surprise?
[07:05] <patrck> oh yea
[07:05] <patrck> thx
[07:05]  * bobertdos facepalms
[07:05] <balz> Bandman614:  i get this        root@kiosk:/etc/init.d# iwconfig iwconfig ra0 essid any
[07:05] <balz> iwconfig: unknown command "ra0"
[07:05] <Bandman614> google = best spellcheck evar.
[07:05] <Vladimir> i hate installing stuff on linux
[07:05] <Vladimir> you'd think
[07:06] <Vladimir> there'd be an easier way
[07:06] <ph0rensic> Vladimir: I love it it is too easy
[07:06] <balz> Vladmir:  .debs should be required under penalty of torture
[07:06] <Bandman614> reread your command line ;-) it should be "iwconfig ra0 essid any"
[07:06] <balz> oh duh...
[07:06] <johninlex> ph0rensic , I will figuare this out see you all soon thanks for the thoughts
[07:06] <ph0rensic> Atleast with using the package manager its easy .. synaptic and compiling are a pain
[07:06] <balz> it's late... lol
[07:06] <Vladimir> but no, it has to be tar svxflweart4 filedirectory.tar.gz upurasstoo/ls
[07:06] <Bandman614> Vlad: easier than apt-get?
[07:06] <SaraSmith> wife of chull... i broke it good.
[07:06] <ph0rensic> john ok gl
[07:07] <jahnkeanater> is there a addon i need for apache2 to use .swf files or is there something i have to do to fire fox
[07:07] <balz> Bandman:  Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[07:07] <balz>     SET failed on device ra0 ; Network is down.
[07:07] <Vladimir> well i'm trying to get ndiswrapper on this system
[07:07] <jahnkeanater> i think its firefox
[07:07] <Bandman614> hrm.
[07:07] <SaraSmith> atm we have NO video..
[07:07] <Vladimir> so i can get my wireless drivers
[07:07] <balz> Vladimir:  what card?
[07:07] <Vladimir> and the install instructions may as well be in a different language
[07:07] <ph0rensic> .debs aren't always the best method to install
[07:08] <Vladimir> Dynex Wireless-G PCI card
[07:08] <balz> ph0rensic:  lies!
[07:08] <Vladimir> uses Broadcom i believe
[07:08] <^P[ubuntu]^> rather
[07:08] <^P[ubuntu]^> i put a folder up for sharing on my network
[07:08] <^P[ubuntu]^> how can i access that folder in ubuntu?
[07:08] <aj_> can anyone tell me how to use bluetooth in ubuntu...i am not able to send or recieve any file
[07:08] <Bax> what's the terminal command for deleting a directory, and all files and sub-directories within said directory?
[07:08] <bum> lspci -v
[07:08] <balz> Bandman614... i'm confused by the essid any part.  there's a specific network i want to join and i know the ssid
[07:09] <Vladimir> i picked it up for free from my buddy's house earlier today because trying to use ethernet and a hub to use my PC as a host did not work
[07:09] <ph0rensic> balz: .deb does make it easy yes, but they can also leave you hanging if they were compiled on slightly different versions of libraries than yours (for example)
[07:09] <Bandman614> balz: Then specify the name instead of using any
[07:09] <balz> Bandman;  the computer i'm trying to connect is already connected via ethernet too, if that matters
[07:09] <Bandman614> balz: but I don't think it will work yet. Try this: "sudo ifup ra0"
[07:10] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: So you think just manually enter that (1,0) entry that you have (and of course the other 3 lines or whatever) should do the trick?
[07:10] <Bandman614> balz: Na, the physical ethernet won't interfere with this any
[07:10] <balz> Bandman614:  Ignoring unknown interface ra0=ra0.
[07:10] <jahnkeanater> where can i install a flash pluging for firefox
[07:10] <Bandman614> ph0rensic: You're right, deb, like lots of others, has it's own quirks, but after 10 years of running Slack, I'm grateful for it
[07:10] <Rajec> guys does ubuntu become slower after using it for several months ?
[07:10] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: Ideally, of course one should always remain on guard when it comes to dealing with these things :D
[07:11] <jahnkeanater> i think i have gnash but i dont know if that works with the update
[07:11] <Rakuli> Good afternoon :D I was wondering if anyone knew how I could give 1 user (who is not an admin and cannot access sudo), the ability to restart apache -- presently I have to use sudo /etc... restart or be signed in as root.  Is there a permission for this, or a group I can add them to?
[07:11] <Bandman614> balz: try: ifconfig eth1 and see what it says
[07:11] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: I didn't really understand some of the text i read regarding it is why I ask
[07:11] <wbmj> jahnkeanater: sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree
[07:12] <Bandman614> balz: I'm looking at this page here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-259234.html
[07:12] <jahnkeanater> k thx
[07:12] <balz> Bandman614:  not found. eth0?
[07:12] <balz> bc eth0 gives me something
[07:12] <Bandman614> eth0 is your physical ethernet, I'd wager
[07:12] <balz> seems like it
[07:12] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: I suppose now I know which file it is concerning and I have a livecd in case and I can just make a backup file
[07:13] <Bandman614> I hate to do this, but I've got to run. I've got to be up in 5 hours, and I've still got cleaning to do in the house. We're trying to sell it and someone is coming to look at it tomorrow
[07:13] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: The main concept to understand when it comes to the Windows entry is chainloading. This essentially just means that one bootloader loads another.
[07:13] <balz> are there any cheap wpa2-compliant wifi cards that ubuntu supports out of the box?
[07:13] <Vladimir> k entered lspci -v
[07:13] <UUd> hey
[07:13] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: Got it.. and now the grub structure makes sense (starts with 0 for partition 1 etc)
[07:13] <balz> Bandman:  totally understandable. don't sweat it
[07:14] <Vladimir> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 (Airgotce One 54g)
[07:14]  * bobertdos nods
[07:14] <balz> just one quick question
[07:14] <reqqit> I've mounted the disk and backed up most things, but some files in the directory I don't have permissions to read --- these files were copied from a flash drive from a windows system
[07:14] <jahnkeanater> cant find
[07:14] <Bandman614> balz: here's the google search I was running
[07:14] <Bandman614> http://tinyurl.com/5f34pd
[07:14] <reqqit> I am using the livecd to access my home folder and backup files
[07:14] <balz> could the fact that it's a WPA2 network matter?
[07:14] <Bandman614> the wireless cards supported? I've never had problems with an intel chip
[07:14] <reqqit> some give me permission errors - even a sudo nautilus - can I tell nautilus I want to access these files, or somehow 'login' to access them?
[07:15] <Bandman614> I'm running this one now: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[07:15] <balz> Bandman614. at this point i'm willing to dish out some buckage.  i'll look into that one.  it was just plug n pleasure?
[07:15] <^P[ubuntu]^> i'll have to worry about the folder tomorrow after work
[07:15] <bobertdos> jahnkeanater: First, in order to save yourself migraines, purge your system of gnash. Now, do you have all the repos active?
[07:15] <^P[ubuntu]^> cause time for bed
[07:15] <^P[ubuntu]^> bye
[07:15] <Niche> What is an Option Argument in Unix?
[07:15] <Derath> Quick question about dist-upgrade issues?
[07:16] <Bandman614> this was built into the dell laptop I'm on, but other similar intel chips should be painless
[07:16] <magnetron> !gksudo | reqqit
[07:16] <Vladimir> just trying to see if anyone knows about the broadcom chip?
[07:16] <ph0rensic> Derath: Shoot it brah
[07:16] <unhu> I just upgraded to Hardy Heron and had to restart due to a freezup. But I got an error about GDM user
[07:16] <JUM> HALLO
[07:16] <reqqit> I'll try that magnetron
[07:16] <Bandman614> just go to a place with a decent return policy
[07:16] <jussi01> !bcm43xx | Vladimir
[07:16] <unhu> I have been using Ubuntu for months but have no idea what to do.
[07:16] <ph0rensic> bobertdos: so any significance to the 1 in chainload +1 ??
[07:16] <Bandman614> g'night
[07:16] <unhu> and I ma stuck in terminal only
[07:16] <balz> sounds good. night man
[07:16] <chalcedony> we adjusted the screen resolution and then made some changes to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and now it has NO video at all! what to do?
[07:16] <Derath> k, trying to go 7.10 -> 8.04, I've cleaned out /var/log, trash, etc and still need 80M
[07:17] <unhu> I have text based browsing, nothing more
[07:17] <Vladimir> danke
[07:17] <Derath> What other /var folder can I kill?
[07:17] <unhu> any help with a GDM error?
[07:17] <unhu> anyone?
[07:17] <jussi01> Derath: try sudo apt-get clean
[07:18] <Derath> jussi: tried that already
[07:18] <jussi01> !anyone | unhu
[07:18] <ePax> how do i install vboxdrv on Hardy. I have installed virtualbox-ose 1.5.6?
[07:18] <unhu> jussi01, sorry about that
[07:18] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: Did you try the dokg command?
[07:18] <bobertdos> ph0rensic: I've always assumed that's best described as an "offset" as in, "The Windows bootloader ,is the second (Linux being the first) link in the chain."
[07:18] <Vladimir> hmm
[07:18] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: what's that?
[07:18] <Vladimir> okay, so my wireless card is natively supported
[07:18] <Vladimir> but i still can't get online
[07:18] <Rajec> guys does ubuntu become slower after using it for several months ?
[07:19] <Vladimir> only if you're looking at a lot of porn :p
[07:19] <unhu> I am recieving this error 'The GDM user 'gdm' does not exist. Please correct GDM configuration  and resolve GDM.
[07:19] <jussi01> !ohmy | Vladimir
[07:19] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can help you reconfigure your X display if you totally jack it up
[07:19] <chalcedony> Oh!
[07:20] <chalcedony> except we can't see anythign to tell
[07:20] <Rajec> Vladimir :)
[07:20] <ph0rensic> You don't get any text on screne
[07:20] <chalcedony> i suspect what i need is ssh ph0rensic and then more
[07:20] <ph0rensic> screen**
[07:20] <Rajec> jussi01: this is catolic channel ?:)
[07:20] <jussi01> Rajec: no, but it is "g" rated ;)
[07:20] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: When you boot it just blank or what?
[07:21] <chalcedony> Rajec: it's everybody related to Ubuntu
[07:21] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: is this a local pc?? or your remoting in?
[07:21] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: we have a lan .. i'm here on my desktop, we have a laptop in there and his box
[07:22] <ph0rensic> Ok but which pc is not giving display?
[07:22] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: last time we restarted it it had red.. and a lot of little red and white lines.. he restarted again and now its  black
[07:22] <Rajec> jussi01, chalcedony: hh ok ;) May I ask you for sharing your exprience of ubuntu? I am courious if its become slower after some time of using it.
[07:22] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: ok so this is a pc displayed locally then
[07:22] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: my husband's new desktop computer
[07:23] <chalcedony> Rajec: do top and see if you are using too much ram
[07:23] <clarenc1> How to use Ubuntu Recovery mode？
[07:23] <Vladimir> i'm about to trash this CPU
[07:23] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: ok ... how about when it goes through boot up do you see the bios entries etc?
[07:23] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: no .. freaked me out
[07:23] <Vladimir> everything i've read and heard suggests that the wireless card works
[07:23] <Vladimir> but it doesn't
[07:23] <Derath> Are there any other folders in /var that would be safe to delete for dist-upgrade? I need roughly 81M more space according to update-manager.
[07:23] <Vladimir> does Ubuntu have a problem with WPA2 encrypted networks?
[07:24] <chalcedony> Vladimir: if it's Hardy .. you have a challenge
[07:24] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: So you dont get any readable display at all? not even the bios boot screen or anything
[07:24] <Vladimir> indeed it is
[07:24] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: it didn't .. really no
[07:24] <genii> Anyone tried an ATI 4870 on ubuntu yet? I'm curious. I have now an 8800GTS which works fine, but this box dual-boots to XP Pro 64bit for gaming (COD4, Crysis) and toying with a card swap
[07:24] <Vladimir> the only reason this computer exists is to go online
[07:24] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: Do you have the livecd?
[07:24] <macGerhard> hi. I was upgrading Gutsy to Hardy, it stalled at "Reloading system cache" (or something similar). I've done a CTRL+C, now I can't restart the upgrade process. :(
[07:24] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: it worked fine the time before those but i messed with the .conf and hit control alt backspace (dummy)
[07:24] <chalcedony> it was flickery
[07:25] <Jordan_U> macGerhard: Try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:25] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: my son did this install remotely.. we have been having a horrible time trying to get it to load from the 8.4 cd.
[07:26] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: OK, it restarted - phew. But it's at the same point where it was last time: * Starting kernel log daemon...
[07:26] <macGerhard> how long should that take?
[07:27] <Jordan_U> macGerhard: I don't know
[07:27] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: Ok i see... well you need to reconfigure your xserver settings .. does this pc have onboard gfx or a seperate card?
[07:27] <macGerhard> ok, because yesterday I've stopped it after about 10'-15'. Should it take THAT long?
[07:27] <ph0rensic> Jordan_U: Is there a command to load ubuntu in a console rather than a gnome session?
[07:28] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: Also is this from a wubi install or was this a full system install?
[07:28] <Jordan_U> ph0rensic: Yes, you can get to a tty with ctrl+alt+F1 and stop GDM  / X with "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop"
[07:29] <Jordan_U> macGerhard: I am pretty sure that it shouldn't
[07:29] <ph0rensic> Jordan_U: Sorry I meant during boot time
[07:29] <Zelbinian> Quick question - does anyone know how to give VirtualBox USB access to Ubuntu?
[07:29] <Zelbinian> If not I can go ask in the vbox chat
[07:29] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: ok. is there a way to stop this upgrade and rollback to Gutsy?
[07:30] <Jordan_U> ph0rensic: Recovery mode, but that also doesn't start networking and other things as well
[07:30] <cheeky> is there a  document on how to set up torrent clients for faster downloads?
[07:30] <Jordan_U> macGerhard: No
[07:30] <Derath> Zelbinian, Grab the non-free version from VB's website
[07:30] <C0L7> I just set up a dual boot with xp. I need to sync my ipod with itunes from XP, (i really dont like the music players for linux) anyhow...I need to be able to access my music folder in ubuntu from xp. any advice
[07:30] <Derath> Zelbinian, Basically the non OSE version
[07:30] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: it's because this is GIGABYTE GA-MA69GM-S2H  with an ATI card  and this monitor:  http://sydney.gumtree.com.au/c-Stuff-for-Sale-computers-software-Gateway-VX900-19-inch-Monitor-W0QQAdIdZ67326870
[07:30] <RickZilla> C0L7:  Songbird might be an option for you at some point...it's not quite iTunes yet, but it's getting there
[07:30] <Zelbinian> Only the non-free one grants USB access?
[07:30] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: crap. ok, now I've got a fail. Let's see the log.
[07:31] <chalcedony> ph0rensic the ATI is onboard graphics
[07:31] <Jordan_U> macGerhard: It gave you an error?
[07:31] <ph0rensic> Jordan_U: Ok, without editing the boot.lst how can you view the boot menu to select recovery mode
[07:31] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: just fail!!
[07:31] <Derath> Zelbinian, Yep, I've got it installed on another of my systems, and the non-free (as in free-speech) is the only one with usb support
[07:31] <C0L7> well until then any solutions on how to make my "music" folder in ubuntu the root for my itunes, in xp?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> ph0rensic: Hit escape when you see grub on the screen
[07:31] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: Setting up klogd (1.5-1ubuntu1) ...
[07:31] <macGerhard>  * Stopping kernel log daemon...
[07:31] <macGerhard>    ...done.
[07:31] <macGerhard>  * Starting kernel log daemon...
[07:31] <macGerhard>    ...fail!
[07:31] <FloodBot1> macGerhard: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:31] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: ATI ... figures...ok ok Im just an nvidia fan .. what did you change in xorg?
[07:31] <Zelbinian> . . . well, that does me no good.
[07:32] <Derath> Zelbinian, It's still free as in no cost
[07:32] <Jordan_U> macGerhard: Try booting into a previous kernel and trying again
[07:32] <nnull> my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?
[07:32] <Derath> Zelbinian, You just don't have the source code
[07:32] <valentinex> Hello after updates my installers etc not working :((
[07:32] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: hmmm. how do I do that?
[07:32] <Zelbinian> Ah.
[07:32] <ph0rensic> Jordan_U: Im trying to help chalcedony but she says she cannot get any display  at all, so I was going to guide her through dpkg-reconfigure xserv...
[07:32] <Zelbinian> I wonder which version I have installed . . . lemme check.
[07:32] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: this is a server btw where I have only SSH access...
[07:32] <Derath> Zelbinian, Enjoy VB, I know I do! :)
[07:33] <Jordan_U> ph0rensic: Tell him to boot into recovery mode from grub and try the "fix X" menu item
[07:33] <chalcedony> Identifier      "Default Screen"
[07:33] <chalcedony> Device          "Generic Video Card"
[07:33] <chalcedony> Monitor         "Gateway-VX900"
[07:33] <chalcedony> DefaultDepth    24
[07:33] <chalcedony> SubSection "Display"
[07:33] <FloodBot1> chalcedony: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:33] <Zelbinian> I have 1.6.4 (and yes, it's awesome) from the Sun website. Is that the one or do I need to download something else?
[07:33] <chalcedony> changed the 24 to 16
[07:33] <nnull> my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?
[07:34] <Derath> Zelbinian, One sec
[07:34] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: Oh, why would you want to do that
[07:34] <maxua> anyone knows why "ssh host sudo something" still asks a password? interactive shells do not (added NOPASSWD to sudoers)
[07:34] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: my friend said to
[07:34] <valentinex> Hello after updates my installers etc not working :(( have I lost my ubuntu?
[07:34] <chalcedony> what we needed to chage was from 60 HZ to 75 .. i didn't see a setting for that and exited.
[07:34] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: Was your display not looking right or something?
[07:35] <Derath> Zelbinian, Their website shows a 2.0 version, might have some new goodies
[07:35] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: Can you try to reboot the computer and press escape when the grub menu usually loads and boot to a recovery console (or chose a fix X option)
[07:35] <pun_jiwan> hi
[07:35] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: the standard setup that comes with Hardy FLICKERS i get sick looking at it
[07:35] <Zelbinian> *sigh* I'm never getting to bed tonight, am I? lol
[07:36] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: would it be a good call to have the server re-installed from image?
[07:36] <nnull> my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?
[07:36] <Zelbinian> Upgrading doesn't destroy any current VM's right?
[07:36] <matiu> What's the command to link a mod-available into mods-enabled (apache2) ?
[07:36] <Jordan_U> macGerhard: OK, edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and change "default 0" to "default 3" and reboot, but be careful if there is no way for you to get physical access
[07:36] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: I think you want to chance the sync rate not the default depth
[07:36] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: ok
[07:36] <Derath> Zelbinian, You'll get in bed soon, I promise, unless you start playing :) And no, upgrades will not hurt the vms
[07:36] <chalcedony> i'll have to try that when we get that far
[07:36] <chalcedony> if
[07:36] <Derath> Zelbinian, I've done that one as well
[07:37] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: before I do that, I'm running top, init seems to be using 100% of the CPU..
[07:37] <chalcedony> ph0rensic:  if i remember right on that one it's more likc control f2 or f4 ?
[07:37] <nnull> my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?
[07:38] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: not to go to cmos .. we want grub boot menu options
[07:38] <Zelbinian> Ok, sweet. I just want to fill up my new Zune before I go to the freakin' gym tomorrow. Is that too much to ask? lol
[07:38] <chalcedony> ph0rensic: i'll go try restarting and maybe esc will make it visible .. wish me luck
[07:38] <Derath> Zelbinian, Should be up and running shortly after the download :) I think my last VB upgrade took about 7 minutes total including download time
[07:39] <ph0rensic> chalcedony: GKL
[07:39] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: I can't seem to find grub. this is a VM btw...
[07:39] <chalcedony> ty
[07:39] <valentinex> when I try to install anything it do nothing just silence :(( >>﻿Hello after updates my installers etc not working
[07:39] <nnull> my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?
[07:39] <Zelbinian> "Delete old modules" hmm . . . that is very cryptically worded, Sun Microsystems. Be ashamed.
[07:39] <Jordan_U> macGerhard: Shouldn't matter that it's a VM, "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[07:39] <pingveno> Is there a particular way I should install Python egg files that works with the /usr/share/pyshared file layout?
[07:40] <Zelbinian> But thanks Derath
[07:40] <Derath> Zelbinian, No problem! and enjoy
[07:40] <RickZilla> Dang, my heartburn has really flared up this evening
[07:40] <Zelbinian> K, it still doesn't see my USB devices lol
[07:41] <valentinex> Help me ...... too waiting :)
[07:41] <nnull> my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?
[07:41] <Derath> Zelbinian, In the settings area (vm must be turned off) check to see if there's a check box for usb support
[07:41] <valentinex> nnull: :D
[07:41] <Zelbinian> Yeah, there's a checkbox for USB support and 2.0 support.
[07:41] <macvr> ﻿hi all......has any1 got the Texas 5in1 card reader to work in hardy?
[07:41] <Jordan_U> valentinex: Did you just upgrade from gutsy to hardy?
[07:42] <Zelbinian> But don't you have to add the devices to the filters list?
[07:42] <valentinex> Jordan_U: hardy
[07:42] <nnull> hihi valentinex
[07:42] <clarence> hello
[07:42] <Jordan_U> valentinex: Is that a yes or a no ? :)
[07:42] <valentinex> Jordan_U: I was at harday before
[07:42] <Zelbinian> The help file also says something about permission to access the Linux USB controller.
[07:42] <RickZilla> Ok kids, 3rd download tonight is imaged to the cd...here goes nothing.
[07:43] <Jordan_U> valentinex: Is there any output from "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?
[07:43] <livingdaylight_> Good people of Ubuntuland, i can not play any of my music or movie files. Totem and Mplayer come up when i click on a media file, but nothing happens
[07:43] <valentinex> Jordan_U: I don't know much am new :-s I think I was at hardy and just got updates on existing hardy
[07:43] <valentinex> Jordan_U: I don't know about that output :-s
[07:44] <clarence> how to edit /etc/modprobe.d of the black list?
[07:44] <C0L7> anybody. ideas. just need to be able to read/write files to linux partition from xp
[07:44] <Jordan_U> valentinex: Please open a terminal ( Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal ) and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and use the pastebin service to paste the output ( if any )
[07:44] <RickZilla> Sweeeeeet...it's working, so far
[07:45] <clarence> in last time, someone told me can use this way, but when I find out, that's a txt file
[07:45] <magnetron> C0L7, in fact that would be a windows support question, but i'll give you some hints; you need to download some extra software for windows that supports ext2 or ext3
[07:45] <Jordan_U> macGerhard: Did you get the menu.lst edited OK ?
[07:45] <SaraSmith> ph0rensic i'm chalcedony on the laptop. i hit esc and up to a point it DID have things i could see and read.. but not now.
[07:45] <error404notfound> I have install trac using easy install, I can't seem to find trac.conf
[07:46] <nnull> hihi valentinex
[07:46] <livingdaylight_> magnetron, can you help me with an Ubuntu support question :p
[07:46] <nnull> my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?
[07:46] <ph0rensic> SaraSmith: What did they say?
[07:46] <magnetron> just ask, livingdaylight_
[07:46] <livingdaylight_> i can not play any of my music or movie files. Totem and Mplayer come up when i click on a media file, but nothing happens
[07:46] <macvr> ﻿ ﻿hi all......has any1 got the Texas 5in1 card reader to work in hardy?
[07:47] <nnull> livingdaylight_, its because there are aliens in your pc :O
[07:47] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: ok, the file isn't there and locate cannot find menu.lst
[07:47] <macGerhard> I have to go now, but will catch up later
[07:47] <livingdaylight_> nnull, you may be right
[07:47] <SaraSmith> ph0rensic i don't remember very well.. maybe i try it again ? is there something I should be looking for?
[07:47] <Jordan_U> macGerhard: Well that makes absolutely no sense :)
[07:47] <valentinex> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45654/
[07:48] <ph0rensic> SaraSmith: Well if it is the right menu you want to look for recovery mode and select that boot option
[07:48] <livingdaylight_> nnull, i thought one didn't have to worry about aliens in linux based os
[07:48] <nnull> livingdaylight_, and i thought it was stable :s
[07:48] <Jordan_U> valentinex: And what happens when you try to install software?
[07:48] <SaraSmith> ph0rensic i'll try again but i did't see it
[07:48] <ph0rensic> SaraSmith: if you are at the right menu it usually will wait for 10 seconds and then automatically choose the default menu item unless you arrow down
[07:48] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: well, /boot is empty...
[07:48] <ph0rensic> SaraSmith: Ok just tell me what u see
[07:48] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: so no trace of that file
[07:49] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: this is a VM running under virtuozzo
[07:49] <kieko> i can not play any of my music or movie files. Totem and Mplayer come up when i click on a media file, but nothing happens
[07:49] <macGerhard> Jordan_U: cheers for your help mate, I'll come back later ;)
[07:49] <C0L7> i have tried 2+ programs that is not working
[07:49] <valentinex> Jordan_U: EXample when I open a .deb package it opens a box then I click on install package box disappears but nothing happens :-s
[07:49] <Jordan_U> macGerhard: np
[07:50] <Jordan_U> valentinex: What if you use "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/whatever.deb" ?
[07:50]  * ph0rensic hifives bazhang
[07:50] <adiction> Hello to all!!
[07:50]  * smmagic hi-5s ph0rensic for the hell of it
[07:50]  * ph0rensic jumps up and down for joy cause he feels like part of the team!
[07:50] <adiction> Who is ubuntu channel in spanish?
[07:51] <adiction> please??
[07:51] <jussi01> !es
[07:51] <ph0rensic> !es
[07:51] <karname> hello , i need ebook about remastering , can you give me ?
[07:51] <nnull> kay
[07:51] <smmagic> Now thats style, MS doesn't give you that
[07:51] <adiction> thank you
[07:51] <adiction> see later
[07:51] <ph0rensic> YW
[07:51] <clarence> Could someone help me?
[07:51] <valentinex> Jordan_U: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/whatever.deb    its long :-s and for every package I should use this? :(( why my main just double click work not fine
[07:51] <ph0rensic> !ask clarence
[07:52] <valentinex> Jordan_U: now what is path and to in this command "﻿sudo dpkg -i /path/to/whatever.deb"
[07:53] <kieko> jussi01, lol
[07:53] <Jordan_U> valentinex: Where is the .deb file saved ?
[07:53] <nameless> et
[07:53] <valentinex> Jordan_U: at desktop
[07:53] <kieko> i can not play any of my music or movie files. Totem and Mplayer come up when i click on a media file, but nothing happens
[07:53] <ph0rensic> Back for more RickZilla
[07:53] <Jordan_U> valentinex: Do you only have that one .deb file on the desktop?
[07:54] <valentinex> Jordan_U: many I have many
[07:54] <RickZilla> Hi again gang....my third attempt at a download tonight has resulted in this:  I get the Ubuntu splash screen with the status bar that goes back and forth, then it freezes...is it common to have to attempt multiple downloads before you get a clean one?
[07:54] <Jordan_U> valentinex: Do you want to install all of them?
[07:54] <valentinex> Jordan_U: no just one at this time
[07:54] <RickZilla> Now it's going through a big error list
[07:54] <RickZilla> %&(@%
[07:55] <Jordan_U> valentinex: And out of curiosity why so many .debs, do you know about synaptic?
[07:55] <adiction> I need to help with JSP in ubuntu
[07:55] <valentinex> Jordan_U:  I only know synaptic is a installer :D
[07:56] <patrck> im getting no sound from youtube
[07:56] <Jordan_U> valentinex: I mean that for almost all software you don't need to download the .debs yourself because synaptic will take care of that for you
[07:56] <cafenet8> Cewek cantiQ
[07:57] <valentinex> Jordan_U:  but that don't have games :D and the facebook plugin for pidgin
[07:57] <RickZilla> Should it take me multiple times to get a clean download?
[07:57] <kieko> komm schon, kann mir nicht jemand helfen?
[07:57] <Jordan_U> valentinex: Just run "sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/name_of_file.deb" To install a single .deb file on your desktop ( replace name_of_file.deb with the name of the file, you can use tab completion )
[07:59] <kieko> ist jemand da?
[07:59] <waan> I've just upgraded gutsy to hardy heron, and my wireless adapter has dissapeard. It still shows in the hardware list but not in networks or restricted drivers where it used to be. Any ideas?
[07:59] <kieko> i can not play any of my music or movie files. Totem and Mplayer come up when i click on a media file, but nothing happens
[08:00] <waan> kieko: does it ask you to install any codecs?
[08:00] <Jordan_U> waan: Does System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers offer to install the drivers?
[08:00] <kieko> waan, no
[08:00] <waan> Jordan_U: nope, it used to be activated there but now its gone
[08:00] <waan> kieko: have you tried another player to see what happens?
[08:00] <Jordan_U> waan: What chipset?
[08:00] <kieko> i installed ubuntu restriced, so all the codecs are there
[08:00] <Zelbinian> How can I tell if Ubuntu is detecting a USB device?
[08:01] <waan> Jordan_U: I can't remember of the top of my head, but it used AirForce One (Broadcom something)
[08:01] <Jordan_U> Zelbinian: "lsusb" What type of device though?
[08:01] <kieko> waan, i never have aproblem with Totem before playing either audio or video codec, but just for the hell of it i also tried to open .avi with Mplayer same result
[08:01] <waan> kieko: try mplayer maybe
[08:01] <Zelbinian> A Zune. Yes, I know, it's not supposed to be able to interface with it directly. I just want it to be able to see it so that my VM can see it.
[08:01] <waan> kieko: hmm whats weird
[08:01] <kieko> waan, its not the players
[08:01] <nnull> my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?
[08:02] <Jordan_U> waan: Ok, try installing the "b43-fwcutter" package and let it download and extract the firmware automatically when it asks
[08:02] <Zelbinian> Yeah, Ubuntu sees the device. VirtualBox does not.
[08:02] <Zelbinian> *sigh*
[08:02] <kieko> waan, i agree its weird. That's why everyone here is keeping a wide berth from this problem... easier to support windows questions than this one
[08:02] <waan> Jordan_U: thats the problem I have no internet access
[08:02] <Jordan_U> Zelbinian: Did you add a virtual USB hub to your guest VM ?
[08:03] <Zelbinian> I'm pretty sure I did.
[08:03] <waan> kieko: does mplayer give you any output when run in the console?
[08:03] <Zelbinian> I followed steps someone linked to me here: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-install-virtualbox-in-hardy-heron.html
[08:04] <waan> Jordan_U: do you think the update my had removed the restricted driver for the b43 broadcom chipset?
[08:04] <Zelbinian> But I admit I'm not sure if I'm enabling USB support in the VB gui correctly
[08:04] <Rajec> guys :) http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/09/are-linux-programmers-getting-too-fat/
[08:04] <kieko> waan, how does one do that?
[08:04] <waan> kieko: open a terminal, then type mplayer "filename"
[08:04] <nnull> my hardy keeps freezing requiring me to push power on the tower, where can i find why this is happening please?
[08:05] <Jordan_U> waan: No, I think that the newer drivers need newer firmware
[08:05] <kieko> waan, just the filename? or withpath?
[08:05] <Jordan_U> waan: The drivers are open source BTW, it's just the firmware that's proprietary
[08:05] <waan> kieko: the whole path and filename
[08:06] <C0L7> they sent me over here.
[08:06] <C0L7> something about set grub to chain the xp bootloader?
[08:06] <waan> Jordan_U: ok i'll try that package you suggested and see if it reappears
[08:07] <Jordan_U> waan: I thought you couldn't connect to the internet?
[08:07] <valentinex> How to unstall KDE and switch default graphics to gnome?
[08:07] <waan> Jordan_U: i'll move it to a hardline
[08:08] <kieko> waan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/45663/ as i said, nothing happens. This is the output, which i can't decipher, maybe it tells you something?
[08:09] <Zelbinian> Ok, lsusb lists my devices, but VBoxManager list usbhost doesn't list anything.
[08:09] <Zelbinian> That seems to be a problem.
[08:09] <ChuanQi> hi all
[08:10] <ChuanQi> anyone use on board RAID 1 (mirror)?
[08:10] <waan> kieko: do you get a black window with any sound>
[08:10] <kieko> waan, a black window yes. Why would there be any sound? No, no sound, nada
[08:10] <smmagic> hey guys, does the GRUB menu end up being scrollable? Mine gets bigger with each kernel update
[08:11] <Jordan_U> smmagic: Yes it does
[08:11] <smmagic> Can I remove the entries I don't need?
[08:11] <smmagic> Like the older kernels.
[08:11] <kieko> waan, i am not gettiing any sound on audio files, nor any visual or sound on .avi files either; both with Totem and with Mplayer when i tried
[08:11] <Jordan_U> smmagic: Yes, just remove the older kernel packages
[08:11] <smmagic> From the terminal?
[08:11] <valentinex> Jordan_U: its also not opening my synaptic package manager
[08:12] <Jordan_U> valentinex: It won't open synaptic as synaptic uses dpkg and not the other way around
[08:13] <valentinex> synaptic package mangar, update manger and installers not working :-s all opens when I click them to do something they get close.
[08:13] <waan> kieko: when did the problem start?
[08:13] <smmagic> Jordan_U, Do I just remove the kernels from the terminal or the entries from grub?
[08:14] <Jordan_U> smmagic: Remove them using apt / synaptic
[08:14] <kieko> waan, its a fresh install of Ubuntu. I only just figured it out when i tried to play one of my audio files today in 'Music'
[08:14] <Jordan_U> kieko: Do any sounds play?
[08:14] <valentinex> I am at dualboot time for me to reinstall ubuntu :-s
[08:14] <smmagic> Jordan_U, Do you know the name of the 3 last kernels?
[08:14] <kieko> waan, i spent yesterday just trying to configure nvidia with my tv screen. And youtube and everything online was working, so i prsumed all was good
[08:15] <SaraSmith> ph0rensic? seems to have left. I have it in a Recovery menu. choices are: resume resume normal mode, dpkg Repair broken packages, root Drop to root shell prompt, xfix Try to fix Xserver... problem was that i changed the x conf and it suddenly had a completely black screen after it booted. so.. what to click to make it better?
[08:15] <kieko> Jordan_U, yes, as i was just saying, youtube etc - finie
[08:15] <waan> try a different video output driver, use "mplayer -vo help" to see a list
[08:15] <cpro> hello everybody - goodmorning from France
[08:15] <waan> kieko: try a different video output driver, use "mplayer -vo help" to see a list
[08:15] <SaraSmith> the basic Hardy setup doesn't work very well with this ATI card and monitor... it flickers.
[08:16] <valentinex> cpro: welcome
[08:16] <waan> kieko: try the gl/gl2 if you have it
[08:16] <kieko> waan, err... that is beyond me
[08:16] <cpro> is there anyone who knows about WINE, I mean the windows emulator?
[08:16] <waan> kieko: as for sound I have no idea sorry, do you have a usb headphones or anything else plugged in?
[08:17] <Jordan_U> !anyone | cpro
[08:17] <kieko> waan, no, lol. Wouldn't it be great if it was something simple like that
[08:17] <valentinex> Jordan_U: your brain is made of what all commands in your brain saved >:)
[08:18] <waan> kieko: well try "mplayer -vo gl <filename>" just for the hell of it and see if you get any video
[08:18] <error404notfound> I am trying to install Remote Desktop (http://www.nongnu.org/grdesktop) from source, and on configure I get: checking for gtk+-2.0... configure: error: cannot find GTK+ 2.0!
[08:18] <error404notfound> I am using gutsy gibbon
[08:18] <cpro> well, I would like if there is a list of softwares running under WINE
[08:18] <waan> kieko: you might have two seperate problems or just one common one, such has being hooked up to your tv
[08:18] <valentinex> Jordan_U: Thank you for the help. :)
[08:18] <Jordan_U> kieko: Does the audio test in System -> Preferences -> Sound work ( I know youtube works but it may not be going through pulseaudio )
[08:19] <kieko> Last.fm also works
[08:19] <ph0rensic> blasted grub
[08:19] <kieko> waan, Unknown option on the command line: -gl
[08:19] <kieko> Error parsing option on the command line: -gl
[08:19] <waan> kieko: mplayer -vo gl <filename>
[08:20] <macvr> ﻿
[08:20] <macvr> ﻿ ﻿hi all......has any1 got the Texas 5in1 card reader to work in hardy?
[08:20] <ph0rensic> Jordan_U: If I reinstall windows on the same partition it is currently occupying, can I just reinstall GRUB via the live disk and be back to triplebooting? Or would I have to actually reinstall ubuntu?
[08:21] <kieko> waan, sorry, same
[08:21] <dooglus> waan: that reminds me.  last time I booted, mplayer would fullscreen properly.  this time, when I hit 'f', the picture doesn't get any bigger - it goes fullscreen, but same size, with huge black border.
[08:21] <macvr> ﻿ph0rensic: just have to reinstall grub
[08:21] <dooglus> waan: "[VO_XV] It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available." - but I didn't change anything.  waah
[08:21] <Jordan_U> !boot | ph0rensic ( First link )
[08:22] <cpro> ubottu: well, apparently NOBODY has an answer to my question, thanx
[08:22] <Jordan_U> !grub | ph0rensic Sorry :)
[08:22] <Jordan_U> !appdb | cpro
[08:22] <asho79> I´m having trouble installing updates; update manager doesn´t download or install packages, it just reads package information
[08:22] <asho79> anyone any ideas?
[08:22] <waan> dooglus: no idea sorry,maybe try a different output driver "mplayer -vo help"
[08:22] <cpro> ubottu: what is a bot
[08:23] <waan> kieko: hmm I have no idea what the problem might be sorry
[08:23] <kieko> Jordan_U, i'm looking at Sound as you suggested. When i click on 'test' should i be getting sounds? coz nothing happens
[08:23] <kieko> waan, ok, well, you tried - thanks :)
[08:23] <Jordan_U> cpro: ubottu is a script that we use in this channel to give commonly needed messages / info
[08:23] <macvr> cpro: ubottu is an automated system... NOT HUMAN
[08:24] <kieko> waan, i have to wonder whether its being set up to to tv somehow; even though that doesn't make any sense
[08:24] <waan> kieko: that's what I'm thinking, the video is being output somewhere else other than your screen
[08:24] <Jordan_U> kieko: Yes you should, I bet that if you used -ao alsa in mlayer, or set everything to use alsa in the preferences there that it would work ( though you may want to just figure out why pulse isn't working )
[08:25] <cpro> ubottu: well, hello machine, how are you today ?
[08:25] <waan> kieko: yes try that
[08:25] <kieko> Jordan_U, but this just works out of the box norrmally?
[08:25] <Jordan_U> kieko: Yes
[08:25] <kieko> Jordan_U, how do i set everything to alsa?
[08:25] <Jordan_U> kieko: Change everything in those preferences from "auto" to "alsa"
[08:26] <waan> kieko: he means totem not mplayer
[08:26] <xess> I have an odd question. Is there any way to look at the firm ware of my MP3 player or at least get Linux to probe it and tell me what is in there?
[08:27] <kieko> waan, does Jordan_U mean change everything in System>Prefernce>Sound to 'Alsa' instead of Autodetect?
[08:27] <Jordan_U> kieko: Yes
[08:27] <kieko> Jordan_U, ok, i changed all the settings in 'Sound' to Alsa
[08:27] <Jordan_U> kieko: Or to change mplayer specifically use "mplayer -ao alsa <filename>"
[08:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> help, can i create some free space on my hard drive with g parted so i can install another operative system? currently i'm on ubuntu hardy and it's a single partition, my question is wether i can do this without having to get a partitioner cd and get out of the partition i'm on
[08:28] <Jordan_U> kieko: Try playing something now
[08:28] <jburd> When I enter a secured wireless network, network manager asks me for a network password.  I input the password, but the password is never saved into the keyring.  It also does not ask me whether "I should allow keyring access to this program".
[08:28] <kieko> Jordan_U, mplayer -ao alsa works lke magic
[08:28] <bcs|postal> Anyone know why when I install the latest Nvidia drivers that I'm supposed to use according to their site why instead of loading in I just get a blinking white screen
[08:28] <jburd> What should I do to allow network manager to use the keyring?
[08:29] <Jordan_U> CostaRicanQuaker: Yes you can, the ubuntu liveCD comes with gparted
[08:29] <waan> kieko: thats good to hear, so just the video to work on now?
[08:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> i want to install pcbsd specifically
[08:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> Jordan_U, here's the deal, i've already a pretty nice set up set up
[08:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> i don't want ot have to reinstall ubuntu
[08:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> i want to just make some space from ubuntu
[08:29] <Jordan_U> CostaRicanQuaker: Gparted can do that
[08:30] <xintron> how can I search for a string in all files in a certain dir from the terminal?
[08:30] <kieko> Jordan_U, | waan everything plays now :D
[08:30] <dooglus> xintron: grep string *
[08:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> i think it's already installed, how do i do that Jordan_U ?from within the partitioon
[08:30] <xintron> dooglus: thanks
[08:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> as in without logging out of ubuntu
[08:30] <waan> kieko: cool,it should also work in totem now
[08:30] <kieko> Jordan_U, why did you make me suffer so long and so much? you could have told me right away?! :)
[08:30] <bcs|postal> Anyone know why my video after I try to install my Nvidia driver will just blink white once it loads in?
[08:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> just resize the size from ubuntu
[08:30] <kieko> waan, yes, indeed!
[08:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> to create some new space
[08:30] <dooglus> xintron: if the string has spaces, put it in quotes.  if it has stuff like dots or stars, use grep -F "string" *
[08:30] <kieko> waan, i didn't know, all i had to do was set 'everything' in 'Sound' to Alsa!
[08:31] <Jordan_U> kieko: I didn't know what the problem was at first :) ( or maybe I'm just evil... )
[08:31]  * Jordan_U laughs miniacally
[08:31] <kieko> muahhahaahaa
[08:31] <waan> Jordan_U: why would the sound stop his video from playing too?
[08:31] <LGKeiz> lol.. you know theres like 1250 people in here and only like 4 people talk
[08:31] <LGKeiz> I never got that :P
[08:31] <kieko> waan, good question
[08:31] <wb> i want been  a hack what i learn ?
[08:32] <Jordan_U> waan: pulseaudio makes sure that the audio and video stay in sync, I guess that means that if the audio doesn't start the video will just keep waiting for it to "catch up " but it never will
[08:33] <kieko> Jordan_U, that makes sense
[08:33] <waan> Jordan_U: yeah good call
[08:33] <Cosmo-san> hmm, where is the ignore enters and exits in Pidgin config...  =/
[08:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> Jordan_U, how do i do it? i run gparted and then what?
[08:33] <jburd> So how does one get network-manager to remember wireless network passwords?
[08:33] <Flannel> Cosmo-san: right click the channel and it's in there... properies or something
[08:33] <waan> Jordan_U, kiekoL ok im off to try and fix my wireless card
[08:33] <Flannel> Cosmo-san: that is, right click the tab or something like that.
[08:33] <Jordan_U> waan: Good luck
[08:33] <bcs|postal> Anyone know why my video after I try to install my Nvidia driver will just blink white once it loads in?
[08:33] <kieko> waan, please say sorry to the tv monitor :) I still wonder why pulseaudio doesn't work here
[08:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> Flannel: how do i free up space from ubuntu to install another OS later?
[08:34] <kieko> waan, k, thx agin, gl
[08:34] <Cosmo-san> right clicked pretty much everywhere.  no option for that. ;)
[08:34] <hickop> hi, i have a problem with rhythmbox, it seams it cant load the jamendo library, any solution please ?
[08:34] <waan> kieko: np
[08:34] <Flannel> CostaRicanQuaker: What do you mean?  You want to remove Ubuntu? or install somethign alongside or what?
[08:34] <wb> how can i don't use xchat join this room ?please tell me .thanks a lot
[08:34] <wat> Hello, Im installing ubuntu on my comp and I already have a linux distribution on t, but I want to reformat and delete old liniux etc... which partition do i chose? guided- resize scsi3(0,0,0), parition #3 (sda) and use freed space..... or the Guided-use entire disk, SCSI3(0,0,0) (sda) - 80.0GB ata etc etc
[08:35] <kieko> Jordan_U, agues, why bother trying to fix the pulseaudio problem when there is a simple solution like switching everything to Alsa?
[08:35] <wat> with the first one it says ubuntu 8.04.1 and 94% 62.8gb, so umm im uncertain here
[08:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> Flannel: i want to create free space from the unused space on my harddrive to install a different operative system withouthaving to reinstall ubuntu
[08:35] <Flannel> wat: Guided Use Entire disk.  You don't care abut anything on the drive currently, right?
[08:35] <wat> no i do not
[08:35] <Jordan_U> kieko: Because pulseaudio has some awesome features, most people don't use / need them though
[08:35] <wat> okay thx :)
[08:35] <Cosmo-san> owait, #pidgin is on freenode.  whee~
[08:36] <xintron> dooglus: If I want to search through all subdirs as well, how do I do that?
[08:36] <Flannel> CostaRicanQuaker: Use a liveCD (the Desktop CD works fine), and use gparted to shrink the Ubuntu partition
[08:36] <kieko> Jordan_U, do you think we could fix pulseaudio here?
[08:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> Flannel: do i have to download gparted and burn an image to a cd? i don't have my ubuntu cd with me
[08:37] <jburd> I'd like to add network-manager applet to the list of applications allowed to access the keyring.
[08:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> is there a way i can do it by just runing gparted from ubuntu Flannel?
[08:37] <dooglus> xintron: use the -r flag to grep:   grep -F -r "my string" .
[08:37] <Jordan_U> kieko: It's hard to say without knowing what is causing the problem, and I personally wouldn't know where to start figuring that out. #puseaudio might though
[08:37] <Flannel> CostaRicanQuaker: No, you can't resize an ext3 partition while its in use.
[08:38] <wb> how can i don't use xchat join this room ?please tell me .thanks a lot
[08:38] <jburd>  !gnome-keyring
[08:38] <kieko> Jordan_U, ok, thx... we'll just let it be as long as it works now
[08:38] <jburd>  !keyring
[08:38] <kieko> Jordan_U, #pulseaudio may just refer me back to #ubuntu so.....
[08:38] <jburd> uhh
[08:38] <wb> how can i don't use xchat join this room ?please tell me .thanks a lot
[08:39] <d_dyer> hey,i need some help,When i try to install new applications i get a error,When i try to run dpkg --configure -a it says this "$ dpkg --configure -a
[08:39] <d_dyer> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege" Can anyone help me out?
[08:40] <dooglus> d_dyer: stick a 'sudo ' in front of the command, then type your password if it asks for a password
[08:40] <jburd> d_dyer: Use sudo as a prefix to that command:
[08:40] <d_dyer> ok so sudu dpkg --configure -a Like that
[08:40] <DrkLordSauron> ultra-quick: will ubuntu 8.10 have better support for nvraid (fakeraid, etc.?)  I've been pretty abused by the poor raid support so far :(
[08:41] <d_dyer> ok thanks
[08:41] <waan> Jordan_U, ok do I tick "fetch and extract firmware" ?
[08:43] <cpro> adios guys
[08:44] <d_dyer> ok it worked,Thanks guys,i have one more question,When a new version of ubuntu comes out how do i upgrade?
[08:44] <waan> d_dyer, just go to the update manager and select, update distribution
[08:45] <Jordan_U> waan: Yes
[08:45] <d_dyer> ok
[08:46] <davidfraser> I'm trying to get apt-pinning working in my /etc/apt/preferences file, but specifying Package: * seems to get ignored (pinning only gets applied if I put an actual package name there). Any hints or is this a bug?
[08:46] <Jordan_U> davidfraser: Is it expecting a regex rather than a glob? Try ".*"
[08:47] <kieko> waan, i don't recommend upgrading that way
[08:47] <Jordan_U> kieko: That is the official method
[08:47] <asho79> does anyone know why my update manager isn´t installing anything? There are updates to get but I can´t get them
[08:47] <waan> kieko, how do you upgrade? I've used it twice so far and I even had a powerout but it still worked :)
[08:47] <kieko> Jordan_U, always left me with a broken system. To be sure always install fresh
[08:48] <bcs|postal> Anyone know why my video after I try to install my Nvidia driver will just blink white once it loads in?
[08:48] <davidfraser> Jordan_U: No, that doesn't help - the man page and all the docs say * as well
[08:48] <waan> kieko, that makes sense if you come from windows, but I trust ubuntu and it works great
[08:48] <Flannel> asho79: pastebin the output of this:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:48] <kieko> waan, ok, works for some, but i know many and certainly i speak for myself from experience that uupgrading hasn'tworked for me. Easier just to backup /home and do a fresh install
[08:49] <Flannel> kieko: You should look into a separate home partition
[08:49] <waan> kieko, yeah both work, depends on your situation
[08:49] <Jordan_U> bcs|postal: Did you mwan to say log in?
[08:49] <kindofabuzz> anyone ever use gedit snippets plugin?
[08:50] <kieko> Flannel, that' s what i mean. I backup my /home
[08:50] <wat> What is GRUB?
[08:50] <kieko> Flannel, only thing i lose is configuration n stuff
[08:50] <kieko> !grub
[08:50] <Flannel> kieko: With a separate home partition, you don't need to back it up.
[08:51] <asho79> Flannel: that seems to be working, do you still want me to pastebin it?
[08:51] <wat> okay so grub is good, lol I heard a lot of people talking bad about grub was like shit i hae grub
[08:51] <wat> ;)
[08:51] <kieko> Flannel, oh...
[08:51] <Flannel> kieko: Well, you still need to have backups, but you don't need to copy it to put it back after the install
[08:51] <Flannel> asho79: If its working, then no.
[08:51] <wat> is there a way to set it so that my linux will not need me to login everytime I restart my comp?
[08:51] <wat> so it will automatically login?
[08:51] <Flannel> wat: Yes.  See the login screen setup
[08:52] <kieko> Flannel, you would just re-install Root (/) ?
[08:52] <wat> Flannel: where do I find this?
[08:52] <asho79> ++Flanel
[08:52] <Cosmo-san> wat: look for it
[08:52] <asho79> thanks, tried to give you a beer
[08:52] <Flannel> kieko: yes, and then have it use the home partition for /home, but without reformatting it
[08:52] <Flannel> asho79: no problem
[08:52] <wat> lol im linux noob, where would I look? in system?
[08:52] <Flannel> wat: system > administration I believe.
[08:52] <wat> okay thx ;)
[08:52] <Flannel> wat: If not there, then preferences.  But it really ought to be in admin
[08:53] <kieko> Flannel, k, thanks, i'll try that next time
[08:53] <Flannel> !separatehome | kieko
[08:53] <Flannel> hmmm
[08:53] <kieko> hehe
[08:53] <Jordan_U> wat: Yes, System -> Administration -> Login Window
[08:54] <Jordan_U> !home | kieko
[08:54] <Flannel> !separatehome | kieko
[08:54] <waan> Jordan_U, ok package installed, no change to the system so far
[08:54] <Flannel> kieko: You can convert it to being on another partition without having to reinstall as well (see tha tlink)
[08:55] <wat> how do I update/install postgresql?
[08:55] <Jordan_U> waan: You need to reload the driver now that you have the firmware, try "sudo modprobe b43" ( or reboot )
[08:55] <Flannel> wat: install "postgresql"
[08:56] <wat> just type that? thats it?
[08:56] <waan> Jordan_U, reboot it is :)
[08:56] <wat> okay ;)
[08:56] <Jordan_U> wat: That with "sudo apt-get " in front of it :) ( or use synaptic for a GUI )
[08:56] <Flannel> !synaptic | wat
[08:58] <Martiini> wat .. do you need help with something
[08:59] <wat> Martiini: yes and no, im complete linux noobie, and im trying to get a postgresql server setup to work on my localhost
[08:59] <wat> err localnetwork not localhoost
[08:59] <wat> so my windows pcs can connect to it
[09:03] <waan> Jordan_U, ok same thing after reboot. I tried modprobe b43, it says no module
[09:05] <waan> Jordan_U, however when modprobe -l grep 43, this shows up "/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko"
[09:05] <d_dyer> Hey i am wanting to know if there is a way to completly restore ubuntu to its orignal ways?
[09:05] <Jordan_U> waan: That's odd
[09:06] <waan> Jordan_U, another thing, when I run test hardware it shows up there with the other network devices
[09:07] <waan> Jordan_U, its almost like it's being omited from networks and iwconfig
[09:07] <d_dyer> can anyone help me>
[09:07] <d_dyer> ?*
[09:07] <waan> d_dyer, I just reinstalled over the top, then updated to the latest version
[09:08] <d_dyer> oh okay
[09:08] <d_dyer> i didnt really want to do that but whatever
[09:08] <waan> d_dyer, reinstall from the original cd is probably the easiest/quickest way
[09:08] <d_dyer> ok
[09:08] <patrck> how do u spell
[09:08] <waan> d_dyer, there might be a way to "reset to factory defaults" but I haven't found it yet
[09:08] <patrck> cerlebery
[09:09] <d_dyer> Well Be Back Later
[09:09] <d_dyer> okay
[09:09] <patrck> celiberty
[09:09] <waan> patrck, dictionary.com
[09:12] <Cosmo-san> what?
[09:12] <Cosmo-san> celebrity?
[09:13] <Cosmo-san> celibacy?
[09:13] <Cosmo-san> honestly?  honestly?
[09:13] <wat> how do i start my postgresQL service
[09:13] <wat> and how do i set it so it runs when computer turns on?
[09:15] <nnull> anyone tell me where in gconf-editor/anywhere i change the font of my tooltip text?
[09:15] <Jordan_U> waan: Just for the sake of trying, try "sudo modprobe bcm43xx"
[09:17] <Jordan_U> waan: what is the output of "uname -r" ?
[09:17] <nnull> anyone tell me where in gconf-editor/anywhere i change the font of my tooltip text?
[09:17] <wat> how do i find out my IP address in ubuntu?
[09:17] <Jordan_U> wat: ifconfig
[09:18] <wat> i typed it and it didnt ddo anything :o
[09:18] <qiang_> ifconfig -a
[09:18] <Ahadiel> wat, local => ifconfig, external => http://whatismyip.com
[09:19] <nnull> how do i create a shortcut of a folder
[09:19] <wat> k how do i start my postgreSQL server then?
[09:19] <waan> Jordan_U, ok module seems to have loaded, kernel is 2.6.22-14-generic
[09:19] <nnull> how do i create a shortcut of a folder
[09:19] <nnull> !shortcuts
[09:20] <nnull> !symbolic links
[09:20] <Cosmo-san> nnull: ctrl + M
[09:20] <nnull> lolk
[09:20] <nnull> Cosmo-san, that does nothing for me
[09:20] <waan> Jordan_U, I also restarted dbus, it seems to be in the network list now, I just need to reboot
[09:20] <Jordan_U> waan: Looks like you don't have hardy's kernel installed
[09:20] <nnull> oh actually it does
[09:20] <Jordan_U> waan: Try "sudo apt-get install linux"
[09:20] <Cosmo-san> what do you want?  you click the folder, you press ctrl + m, you have link
[09:20] <waan> Jordan_U, really? that is super weird since I upgraded
[09:20] <Cosmo-san> voila
[09:21] <nnull> Cosmo-san, know where in gconf-editor/anywhere i change the font of my tooltip text?
[09:21] <rajec> Guys is there any normal video player for ubuntu? I tried VLC, mplayer and Movie player. All had problems when I want to skip across video.
[09:21] <Cosmo-san> ﻿ok, channel downtime.  So I'm trying to get my firefox set up so I can use the fourth mouse button to go back a page, I believe it's default in Windows, but I don't know where to add it in Ubuntu.  #firefox doesn't know, google isn't helpful.
[09:21] <Cosmo-san> the font of your tooltip text?  is it important?~
[09:22] <nnull> Cosmo-san, yea
[09:22] <DosKey> I have a little challenge...
[09:22] <Niche> How would I go about getting those large program buttons on the desktop that I see on so many Ubuntu user's screenshots?
[09:22] <nnull> all other fonts changed but that one
[09:22] <waan> Jordan_U, ok it's going to install "linux-image linux-restricted-modules"
[09:23] <nnull> Cosmo-san, how do i find out why my pc locksup/freezes?
[09:23] <rajec> samp: :) I want to provide him something too and I believe that this article(or better blog which is not main! ) could help him
[09:23] <rajec> Guys is there any normal video player for ubuntu? I tried VLC, mplayer and Movie player. All had problems when I want to skip across video.
[09:23] <DosKey> I have no cd's to burn ubuntu onto, i want to enable a mount to a virtual drive which boots the ubuntu iso from windows before the bootloader boots? Anyone know a way?
[09:23] <Jordan_U> waan: Nothing else? ( if not then you may have the latest kernel installed but just aren't booting from it for some reason )
[09:24] <Cosmo-san> nnull: reformat.  or try  gnome-system-monitor
[09:24] <waan> Jordan_U, It just occured to me what the problem is
[09:24] <waan> Jordan_U, when I upgraded I accidentally clicked to leave the grub menu.lst instead of updating it
[09:24] <Jordan_U> DosKey: Ubuntu comes with a windows installer
[09:24] <Cosmo-san> or notice what program you are running every time it locks up and freezes
[09:24] <Jordan_U> waan: That would do it :)
[09:25] <Niche> How would I go about getting those large program buttons on the desktop that I see on so many Ubuntu user's screenshots?
[09:25] <nnull> Cosmo-san, the pc isnt under any strain it just does hard locks randomly, usually when ive got alot of text on the screen and im using dropdown menus
[09:25] <waan> Jordan_U, know how I can remake it with the autogenerator that the upgrade uses?
[09:25] <DosKey> For some reason wubi wasn't so successfull... Anyway, i don't want to emulate my Linux.
[09:26] <DosKey> So
[09:26] <DosKey> I have no cd's to burn ubuntu onto, i want to enable a mount to a virtual drive which boots the ubuntu iso from windows before the bootloader boots? Anyone know a way?
[09:26] <DosKey> You think it's plausable?
[09:26] <waan> Jordan_U, it's always human error, the os was fine the whole time, just my stupid mistake that I forgot about
[09:26] <Jordan_U> DosKey: It's possible, but probably not easy
[09:27] <Niche> #b How would I go about getting those large program buttons on the desktop that I see on so many Ubuntu user's screenshots?
[09:27] <HymnToLife> DosKey: just install from an USB drive, you surelt have one
[09:27] <Jordan_U> DosKey: Debian has such a feature that installs to a new partition @ http://goodbye-microsoft.com/
[09:27] <waan> Niche, just drag them from the applications menu
[09:27] <DosKey> That's a web-install link
[09:27] <Jordan_U> waan: First backup your current menu.lst
[09:27] <DosKey> I am on wi-fi
[09:27] <HymnToLife> DosKey: or you have !wubi
[09:27] <waan> Niche, or are you referring to a docking type menu?
[09:28] <DosKey> Wubi doesn't work
[09:28] <Niche> I think the docking type?
[09:28] <DosKey> |I don't want to emulate |Linux
[09:28] <Niche> It's not default in ubuntu, I know you can drag programs to the top bar
[09:28] <DJones> DosKey: Maybe this will help, it suggests a way or installing from Windows https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[09:28] <Jordan_U> DosKey: Wubi is not emulation BTW
[09:28] <waan> Jordan_U, yep done
[09:28] <Niche> waan, sometimes the icons rotate when they drag their mouse over them too
[09:28] <DosKey> Your whole OS goes into a file on windows
[09:28] <Jordan_U> waan: Ok, try "sudo update-grub"
[09:29] <DosKey> I don't want that, i would just use a virtualisation server if i wanted that
[09:29] <waan> Niche, ahh yes I think I know what you mean, its a dock which I cant remember the name of. Similar to rocketdock for windows
[09:30] <waan> Jordan_U, ok it found the new kernel, i'll check the list out and then reboot
[09:30] <DosKey> DJones, thanks
[09:30] <Niche> waan,  yep that's it, thanks!
[09:30] <DosKey> Just use UNetbootin
[09:31] <Jordan_U> waan: Good, not sure if it will automatically update itself from now on or not
[09:31] <waan> Jordan_U, the operating system or the menu?
[09:31] <Jordan_U> waan: The menu
[09:32] <waan> Jordan_U, yeah it didn't update it at all
[09:33] <rajec> Guys is there any normal video player for gnome? I tried VLC, mplayer and Movie player. All had problems when I want to skip across video.
[09:33] <outbackwifi> rajec: xine
[09:33] <Jordan_U> waan: Try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub" and see if it gives you the option of weather or not to update the list again
[09:34] <kieko> hi,
[09:34] <kieko> Q: is there a quick way of getting a terminal up? like control+ t or something?
[09:35] <waan> Jordan_U, nope nothing. I'll just google for a bit and come back if I don't find the answer
[09:35] <rajec> oubackwifi: great I just tried it(gxine) and I get some segment error
[09:35] <mdkaneda55> hey, how can i run xmodmap and xbindkeys at startup in  XFCE? i tried adding lines to /etc/rc.local, but  apparently it's running it too early and being canceled  out or something..
[09:36] <TimboUK> Is it ok to ask a quick, hopefully simple Q?
[09:36] <KillGuta> hello all :D
[09:37] <mdkaneda55> whats ur question, TimboUK?
[09:37] <KillGuta> I was wondering if I can use VM workstation for DX support for games :D
[09:37] <TimboUK> its about Wine, Im trying to work out how the thing works.  Do I need a Windows installation on my machine for it to function?  Or will it function just as happilly without one?
[09:37] <waan> Niche, you could try kiba-dock or avant window navigator
[09:37] <TimboUK> I dont want to dual boot anymore
[09:37] <TimboUK> and I could use the space windows is taking up.
[09:37] <KillGuta> you dont need windows so WINE can work
[09:37] <HymnToLife> mdkaneda55: make a shell script to run your commands and put it in ~/.config/autostart
[09:37] <mdkaneda55> VMWorkstation doesn't work too well w/ games, you can install Direct X and run simple games, but nothing too graphical.. i got some 2D Reflexive.com games to run great tho, =)
[09:38] <ushimitsudoki> TimboUK: you do not need windows for Wine.
[09:38] <TimboUK> thanks.
[09:38] <TimboUK> appreciated.
[09:38] <ePax> TimboUK: wine is simuletor for windows programs on linux. So you dont need to have windows on you comp.
[09:38] <KillGuta> damn...
[09:38] <rajec> When fast forwarding in vlc video displaying is screwed only audio works
[09:38] <mdkaneda55> HymnToLife: awesome! i looked in there, but there was a .desktop entry file, wasnt sure if a simple bash script would work in there
[09:39] <donkeyofdarkness> orly?
[09:39] <KillGuta> Anyone got TF2 working properly?
[09:39] <KillGuta> on linux?
[09:39] <rajec> *When fast forwarding in vlc video displaying is screwed only audio works. What to do about iut?
[09:39] <KleinerHa1> Hi, often when i want to delete my trash I delete just the icon in the panel. Can i remove the "Remove" Icon?
[09:39] <TimboUK> how would it deal with specific windows drivers that a package requires, for example DX coding, if windows is not present?
[09:39] <ushimitsudoki> KillGuta: I played TF2 in linux for while, but haven't in quite some time
[09:39] <KillGuta> because when I put it to the lowest resolution, settings it still works at ~10fps
[09:39] <donkeyofdarkness> wtf
[09:40] <donkeyofdarkness> don't use DX
[09:40] <ushimitsudoki> TimboUK: the whole purpose of wine is to NOT need windows. it re-implements the dlls that windows uses
[09:40] <KillGuta> and on windows it works ~60fps :(
[09:40] <kindofabuzz> KleinerHa1, deleting the icon won't delete your trash
[09:40] <rajec> I am starting be confessed that media in ubuntu sucks
[09:40] <ushimitsudoki> TimboUK: this is why it works better for some apps than others, because they may not have implemented a certain set of features
[09:40] <shankhs> rajec, media in ubuntu rox
[09:41] <donkeyofdarkness> media in ubuntu works better than wind0ze
[09:41] <ePax> TimboUK: As i said. Its a simulator. And it does not need windows att all. Allthough all things just want work with it. but you can allways have windows as virtual machine on your linux
[09:41] <donkeyofdarkness> moar formats
[09:41] <TimboUK> thanks again. So far Wine has been 100% for me.  I just didnt want to risk ruining it by removing Windows....Now I can!
[09:41] <shankhs> rajec,i agree wid donkeyofdarkness
[09:41] <waan> Jordan_U, ok I deleted the old menu.lst and update-grub generated a brand spanking new one, all fixed
[09:41] <KleinerHa1> kindofabuzz: That's it! I don't want to delete the icon! But i do sometimes. It's not a problem to recover it. But I want to set this icon permanent.
[09:41] <rajec> donkeyofdarkness, shankhs: yeah so tell me one player which will be able to skip across video without any problems ?
[09:41] <nnull> this channel is like a constant fragment of problems, so quite in fedora :s
[09:41] <outbackwifi> rajec: what is the format of the video?
[09:41] <Jordan_U> waan: And wireless?
[09:42] <rajec> outbackwifi: .mov
[09:42] <donkeyofdarkness> I've never had any problems after installing all codecs
[09:42] <mdkaneda55> rajec: mplayer fastforwards beautifully for me for all formats.. =)
[09:42] <donkeyofdarkness> I've only had problems with windows media files
[09:42] <rajec> donkeyofdarkness: maybe there is problem
[09:42] <shankhs> rajec, do u have vlc?
[09:42] <kindofabuzz> KleinerHa1, right click it and choose lock to panel.  then to delete trach, right click and choose delete trash
[09:42] <master5o1> hi
[09:42] <donkeyofdarkness> I've seen .mov be a little buggy
[09:42] <waan> Jordan_U, i have to reboot with the new kernel and find out
[09:42] <outbackwifi> hi master5o1
[09:42] <donkeyofdarkness> I have an HD camera that records in that format
[09:43] <rajec> shankhs: yes and when I skip some part sound continue  properly but video is screwed(i got black screen)
[09:43] <donkeyofdarkness> use a different format
[09:43] <outbackwifi> rajec: use theora
[09:43] <Jordan_U> waan: Please do, I am curious :)
[09:43] <shankhs> rajec, thats strange it never happened to me try amarok and see
[09:43] <donkeyofdarkness> I stay away from mov and wmv
[09:44] <rajec> mdkaneda55: when using mplayer I cannto skip by little chunks and sometime mplayer shutdown without any error
[09:44] <DosKey> lol? UNetbootin seems to have crashed...
[09:45] <shankhs> rajec, post this in  vlc bug tracker site
[09:45] <donkeyofdarkness> you could also try xine
[09:45] <Kn_> join/ #ubuntu.de
[09:45] <rajec> shankhs: amarok is only for audio no?
[09:46] <piranesi> how can I set the opengl output in totem-gstreamer?
[09:46] <koshari> anyone know if virtualboxOSE 2 is backported?
[09:46] <donkeyofdarkness> xine also pwns
[09:46] <KillGuta> anyone have an idea how to get TF2 working properly?
[09:46] <outbackwifi> KillGuta: whats TF2
[09:46] <mdkaneda55> yup amarok for audio, but exaile is gtk equivilant, much faster in gnome
[09:46] <KillGuta> team fortress2 a game :D
[09:47] <outbackwifi> oh ok
[09:47] <shankhs> rajec, i agree
[09:48] <bentob0x> what is the best light client computer to use with Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[09:49] <bentob0x> something small that can be used as a kiosk
[09:49] <KleinerHa1> bentob0x: For Kiosk use xubuntu.
[09:49] <koshari> bentob0x look at the new atom based itx offerings
[09:49] <donkeyofdarkness> or fluxbox
[09:49] <KleinerHa1> bentob0x: I did already and it's awesome!
[09:50] <bentob0x> nice
[09:50] <outbackwifi> bentob0x: the asus eee desktop pc
[09:50] <Cosmo-san> TF2 is a Steam based FPS~   Steam and Ubuntu do not get along well, but gl!
[09:50] <bentob0x> but what about the hardware?
[09:50] <bentob0x> eee desktop pc
[09:50] <bentob0x> k going to check that
[09:50] <donkeyofdarkness> whatever is cheapest
[09:50] <bentob0x> any idea on Dell's side?
[09:50] <KleinerHa1> Xubuntu start's with 800 Mhz and 128 MB Ram
[09:50] <Cosmo-san> what was the command to autodetect new hardware?  specifically finding my printer on the Lpt1 port?  :D
[09:50] <rajec> whats command to list all running processes?
[09:50] <kindofabuzz> open arena is all you need =) and tc:e =)
[09:50] <donkeyofdarkness> Go to walmart
[09:50] <nathan> hi
[09:50] <nathan> haloooo
[09:50] <nathan> jj
[09:51] <donkeyofdarkness> walmart actually has a couple linux boxes on their website
[09:51] <donkeyofdarkness> cheap ones
[09:51] <Ad0> huge channe
[09:51] <DJones> rajec: type "top" in a terminal window
[09:51] <KleinerHa1> I wanna start web design are there any good programms for it?
[09:51] <Ad0> l
[09:51] <KleinerHa1> Like Dreamweaver?
[09:51] <koshari> bentob0x http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/display/20080819193707_Intel_Unveils_Desktop_Motherboard_for_Nettops.html
[09:51] <donkeyofdarkness> KleinerHa1, kompozer
[09:51] <kindofabuzz> KleinerHa1, gedit
[09:51] <bentob0x> I just want to have some hardware that I would be sure not to have any problems with Xubuntu install/setup etc
[09:51] <donkeyofdarkness> bluefish
[09:51] <bentob0x> reading, thx koshari
[09:51] <donkeyofdarkness> kate
[09:51] <kindofabuzz> learn how first before you use an IDE
[09:51] <trucMuche> KleinerHa1, dreamweaver -> quanta+
[09:52] <KleinerHa1> Wow! Much programs :) COol, Thanks
[09:52] <shankhs> I have screwed my GUI and after lots of posting in ubuntu forum i realized that I have to reinstall it,is there any way to know the level of damage to the ubuntu linux kernel
[09:52] <donkeyofdarkness> dreamweaver runs in wine
[09:52] <wathek> hello all
[09:52] <trucMuche> donkeyofdarkness, :(
[09:52] <donkeyofdarkness> o_O
[09:53] <mdkaneda55> bentob0x: i built a cheap Athlon 64 3200+ setup off newegg for $180 that works great =) mini-atx board so u could get a small case to put it in..
[09:53] <trucMuche> is bad :p
[09:53] <J-_> shankhs:  whatever you do, try to reconfigure xorg first before going to reinstall.
[09:53] <wathek> I've installed Ubntu Hardy Heron on a Toshiba Portege R100 but I cannot get a full screen graphic mode that computer has a Trident graphic card
[09:53] <J-_> !xorg | shankhs
[09:53] <shankhs> J-_, tried but since I dont have any idea of xorg so I couldnt do much
[09:53] <donkeyofdarkness> you can buy some tiny boxes from the damnsmalllinux website
[09:53] <Ad0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916597 whelp
[09:53] <KleinerHa1> wathek: There's no problem without a solution!
[09:54] <donkeyofdarkness> they have no hard drives
[09:54] <donkeyofdarkness> just cfcards
[09:54] <waan> Jordan_U, Wireless is back to normal now. Thanks for your help. Also I get the added bonus of power management with the new kernel, my laptop now uses the dim/bright hotkeys and can hibernate. Ubuntu is awesome!!!
[09:54] <donkeyofdarkness> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/Mini_ITX_Systems
[09:54] <Jordan_U> waan: np :)
[09:55] <waan> Jordan_U, also a blue wireless led shows which doesn't work in windows
[09:55] <mdkaneda55> bentob0x: board i used is ECS GeForce 7050M-M, it's cheap and perfect for a basic setup, really nice onboard video
[09:55] <shankhs> ubottu, let me try these things fisrdt
[09:55] <Jordan_U> waan: :)
[09:55] <shankhs> ubottu, I tried startx but no help
[09:55] <waan> Jordan_U, and it boots heaps quicker, ubuntu for the win
[09:55] <outbackwifi> bentob0x: http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=24&l2=165&l3=0&l4=0&model=2289&modelmenu=2
[09:55] <co_goodboyfriend> rian_19
[09:56] <outbackwifi> shankhs: dont talk to ubottu; its a bot ;O
[09:56] <shankhs> kk
[09:57] <donkeyofdarkness> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/Mini_ITX_Systems/533MHz_fanless_Mini_ITX_PC
[09:57] <Zeepo> hello
[09:58] <Zeepo> got prob here
[09:59] <outbackwifi> the eee box pc is only $353
[09:59] <donkeyofdarkness> orly?
[09:59] <outbackwifi> hi zeepo
[09:59] <Zeepo> hi
[09:59] <outbackwifi> whats the prob
[09:59] <Zeepo> does anyone know how to disable touchpad when mouse connected to laptop?
[10:00] <outbackwifi> Zeepo:  automatically or manually?
[10:00] <Zeepo> either one
[10:00] <ballzee> id like to beat to death the person that puts only two ram slots on a motherbord
[10:01] <Zeepo> but it would be better if when i connect my mouse to the laptop, then automatically my touchpad disabled
[10:01] <yaya> Hi guys,
[10:01] <yaya> A little question:
[10:01] <outbackwifi> Zeepo:  check if this helps --> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/disable-synaptics-touchpad/
[10:02] <Cosmo-san> 'spose I could ask here.  I want a different color scheme for my Kdevelop, how do I import a theme and does anyone have a site to browse good schemes?
[10:02] <yaya> I want to buy a new computer and install Ubuntu 8.04 and compiz fusion on it. Can anyone let me know of hardware specs that work properly?
[10:02] <yaya> Thanks!
[10:03] <Jordan_U> Cosmo-san: KDE-look.org
[10:03] <Jordan_U> yaya: You could buy a Dell with Ubuntu pre-installed
[10:03] <donkeyofdarkness> buy a core 2 quad
[10:03] <Cosmo-san> danke.  also, what is the command that stops the application I am running in the terminal from stealing the terminal window?
[10:03] <donkeyofdarkness> 8GBs ram
[10:03] <donkeyofdarkness> geforce 9800
[10:03] <outbackwifi> yaya: check out the ubuntu HCL http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[10:04] <Jordan_U> Cosmo-san: <command> &
[10:04] <macv1> ﻿
[10:04] <macv1> hi all......... is anyone able to use Texas 5in1 Card reader
[10:04] <joaopinto> complexity, nohup command &
[10:04] <joaopinto> ops, was cosmo-kramer
[10:04] <joaopinto> erm, Cosmo-san
[10:05] <yaya> Thanks!
[10:05] <Cosmo-san> o_o
[10:05] <jp73107> in the ubuntu repository, is a package called kubuntu-artwork-kbfx... does anyone know what kbfx is?
[10:05] <Cosmo-san> nohup?  or just use the ampersand after the command?
[10:05] <wathek> KleinerHa1, didn't work
[10:05] <yaya> donkeyofdarkness - can the 9800 run compiz properly? I heard that due to driver issues (or something) Compiz was unusable
[10:05] <jp73107> i've never heard of it and all i can get on google is crap from kde-look.org and extra themes and such, from the looks of it it looks like its some kind of emerald for kde but idk =/
[10:05] <Jordan_U> !info kbfx | jp73107
[10:05] <jp73107> thanks :)
[10:05] <jp73107> !info kbfx
[10:06] <jp73107> oh hehe :3
[10:06] <jp73107> alright sweet, good enough for me
[10:06] <jp73107> thanks Jordan_U
[10:06] <Jordan_U> jp73107: np
[10:06] <wathek> still can't get a full screen graphic mode with my Toshiba Portege R100 that has a Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XP4m32 graphic card
[10:06] <wathek> :'(
[10:06] <jp73107> :(
[10:07] <koshari> yaya nvidia or intel graphics would be my recomendation,
[10:07] <jp73107> i've always wanted a laptop. i was going to buy one of the new macbook pros, and install ubuntu on it
[10:07] <Cosmo-san> Jordan_U: the site gives me a text file for the scheme, to import it do I need to save it as a certain file type?
[10:07] <jp73107> but then i mentioned this to a friend who is an avid mac user who just about passed out when i mentioned the mac os would no longer be on the laptop
[10:07] <Jordan_U> Cosmo-san: I don't know, I don't use KDE. Try asking in #kubuntu
[10:08] <koshari> jp73107 unless you specificly want to dual boot with macOS i beleive you will be wasting money
[10:08] <jp73107> probably, the macbook pro was just for the hardware specs
[10:08] <Cosmo-san> screw it, gedit is fine
[10:08] <koshari> jp73107 well get an acer/dell/toshy with the same specs for %20 less
[10:09] <waan> Jordan_U, sorry to bother you again, but compiz is now not working. I've checked the desktop effects manager and they are all still enabled, any ideas?
[10:09] <jp73107> if only  you could upgrade laptops as easy as you could upgrade desktops :(
[10:09] <yaya> Anyone has tried an nVidia 8600 card?
[10:09] <jp73107> i have an 8600GT on my box
[10:09] <jp73107> no problems with it
[10:09] <Jordan_U> waan: Can you pastebin the output of "compiz --replace" ?
[10:09] <koshari> yaya for compiz fusion even a 5*** nvidia card would more than suffice
[10:09] <jp73107> nforce 630i/7150 board
[10:10] <jp73107> compiz is pretty but i use vmware a lot, and it bogs everything down somewhat
[10:10] <koshari> jp73107 maybee its vmware dung the bogging, i use compiz and virtualbox no prob
[10:11] <jp73107> perhaps!
[10:11] <koshari> jp73107 and i only have a e2220 and a 6600Nvid
[10:11] <jp73107> i'm so used to vmware now though i'm not sure i could switch to virtualbox
[10:11] <waan> Jordan_U, xgl: not present, found ati driver, aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[10:12] <Jordan_U> waan: Does it say anything about it being a laptop?
[10:12] <jp73107> i suppose i can give it a try
[10:12] <waan> Jordan_U, yes. Found laptop using ati driver.
[10:12] <koshari> waan aaaahhh ati sucks with compiz
[10:13] <waan> koshari, it works fine for me
[10:13] <yaya> Thanks!
[10:13] <Jordan_U> waan: Ok, there are a lot of ATI laptops that are having problems ( X crashes completely ) when compiz is started, since they couldn't find a way to identify them and the bug was preventing people from being able to login at all they blacklisted all ATI laptops, but you can remove that blacklisting
[10:13] <yaya> jp73107 - I think I will get a 8600GT then.
[10:14] <yaya> I think 7xxx cards are hard to find nowadays...
[10:14] <jp73107> newegg.com
[10:14] <waan> Jordan_U, ok, I can always get into recovery mode to put the blacklist back if it has issues?
[10:14] <jp73107> i got mine (pci-e) for like, less than 100$?
[10:14] <donkeyofdarkness> there's some cheap 8800s now
[10:14] <koshari> yaya it doesnt matter the 8*** series are about $25USD
[10:14] <jp73107> i think it was only 100$+ because i got the 2 year extended warranty
[10:14] <Chousuke> compiz is the root source of stability problems on ubuntu
[10:14] <Jordan_U> waan: Yes
[10:14] <Chousuke> please consider not using it.
[10:15] <jp73107> i'm thinking about getting one of the new 200 series :3
[10:15] <jp73107> all i do is play WoW though i think that'd be absolute overkill
[10:15] <Jordan_U> waan: First try running "SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz --replace"
[10:16] <jp73107> Nvidia isn't going to release anymore linux drivers until after Xorg does whatever they're going to do with this new version of X they're doing with though, i hear
[10:16] <koshari> Chousuke i would argue edid detection in xorg is more of a prob than compiz
[10:16] <Chousuke> koshari: hm, I'm not familiar with that.
[10:16] <Zeepo> hi
[10:17] <Zeepo> got prob again
[10:17] <donkeyofdarkness> xorg's autodetection sux
[10:17] <Chousuke> koshari: all I know is that I managed to crash ubuntu twice yesterday and compiz caused it.
[10:17] <recoy> cody reed
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:17] <yodc> 02:16:26 -- recoy (n=recoy@resnet25-254.housing.hawaii.edu) has joined #ubuntu
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> donkeyofdarkness: yep, manually configure it
[10:17] <Jordan_U> waan: Does compiz start when you run "SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz --replace" ?
[10:17] <Zeepo> my drive C: is not autmount
[10:17] <koshari> Chousuke so it wasnt related to graphic drivers?
[10:17] <Zeepo> automount
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | Zeepo
[10:17] <Chousuke> I have an Intel graphics chip
[10:17] <Zeepo> i cant download it
[10:17] <donkeyofdarkness> intel pwns
[10:17] <lmg> Zeepo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5549171&postcount=8
[10:18] <koshari> Zeepo you may need to place it in the fstab if its a perminant drive
[10:18] <Zeepo> the terminal said my system have the latest ntfs-3g
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> donkeyofdarkness: not in the graphics department
[10:18] <waan> Jordan_U, that sounds a little dangerous. Wouldn't it be easier to just remove ati from /usr/bin/compiz ?
[10:18] <donkeyofdarkness> it's usually pretty compatible though
[10:18] <koshari>  Chousuke i have used intel graphics many a time with compiz with no drama?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Zeepo: then read the walktrough and add the line to your /etc/fstab
[10:18] <donkeyofdarkness> good on linux laptops
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> donkeyofdarkness: yeah but dont expect much gaming power
[10:18] <donkeyofdarkness> I know
[10:19] <Jordan_U> waan: That is what I was going to suggest after confirming that skip checks worked
[10:19] <donkeyofdarkness> I've tried
[10:19] <koshari> ActionParsnip who games on linux anyway?
[10:19] <donkeyofdarkness> it sucks for gaming
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> donkeyofdarkness: therefore intel != pwns
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> koshari: i do
[10:19] <Felix_Krull> Hello, I already asked this question, to solve one annoying problem. Namely, I suddenly lost autostart of the Nautilus when I insert cd/dvd or sd-card. However, usb-flash still starts happily in Nautilus. Does anyone know what is the problem???
[10:19] <Chousuke> intel owns if you want something that works.
[10:19] <koshari> *koshari fires up another session of bzflag and scorched earth*
[10:19] <Chousuke> ATI drivers are still a bit immature and nvidia... well they have closed drivers
[10:20] <waan> Jordan_U, yep it works fine
[10:20] <koshari> Chousuke yes ther are closed source but they work well.
[10:20] <lmg> Felix_Krull: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GNOME_Wechseldatentr%C3%A4ger_und_-medien (german)
[10:20] <Chousuke> koshari: they'll still cause problem
[10:20] <Jordan_U> waan: Ok, can you figure out what to comment out on your own?
[10:20] <Chousuke> +s
[10:21] <Chousuke> koshari: and there's no guarantee they will be maintained forever
[10:21] <koshari> Chousuke well the current drivers are fine for me
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Chousuke: my nvidia is fine, im not too bothered the drivers are not open
[10:22] <Chousuke> I'm still going to prefer ATI if I need graphics power on linux :)
[10:22] <xnv> Anyone know which package the "bitmap" program would be in?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> !bitmap
[10:22] <lmg> xnv: use apt-file
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> !info bitmap
[10:22] <koshari> Chousuke anyway by the time the ATI open drivers are released and come up to speed i bet intel graphics will be fine for me anyway
[10:22] <Jordan_U> xnv: Easy way to check, run "bitmap" at a terminal :)
[10:22] <xnv> Jordan_U: Try it
[10:22] <Chousuke> koshari: might be :D
[10:22] <waan> Jordan_U, maybe not
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> xnv: whats it do?
[10:23] <xnv> ActionParsnip: http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/bitmap/
[10:23] <koshari> Chousuke in the meantime i will stick with Nv
[10:23] <waan> Jordan_U, i'm not sure which hardware id to remove
[10:23] <Shihan> anyone gotten a desktop install working via pxe?
[10:23] <Shihan> for 8.04 that is
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> xnv: ahh so it makes ascii art?
[10:23] <Chousuke> I'd support ATI just for being more open though.
[10:23] <xnv> ActionParsnip: No, it makes bitmaps
[10:24] <langzn> Hi all
[10:24] <Jordan_U> waan: It's not a hardware id, it's an if statement. Search for "laptop"
[10:24] <langzn> I need help
[10:24] <rajec> guys some program to convert video from .mov to something else?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> !ask | langzn
[10:24] <Jordan_U> xnv: X11-apps
[10:24] <langzn> Im looking for a good scanning software
[10:24] <waan> Jordan_U, ahh yes I see
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> rajec: what do you wanna convert to
[10:24] <langzn> anyone know of 1
[10:24] <xnv> Jordan_U: I already have newest version, it says
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> !scanner | langzn
[10:25] <langzn> I hate xsane
[10:25] <waan> Jordan_U, can I just replace return1 with return0 ?
[10:25] <langzn> doesn't seem to work well
[10:25] <koshari> Chousuke after i was stuck with an ati 9250 that my old Nv mx2 ran rings round ati leaves a bitter taste in my mouth
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> langzn: there are millions of alternatives
[10:25] <truszx> I have an M-Audio 2496 sound card and after I suspend ubuntu and then resume working, there is no sound and I have to sudo alsa force-reload. Is there a fix for this? Seems a common problem with many soundcards but I can't seem to find a reliable fix
[10:25] <langzn> what are the good ones you know of ?
[10:25] <rajec> guys some program to convert video from .mov to something else?
[10:26] <macv1> ﻿
[10:26] <macv1> hi all......... is anyone able to use Texas 5in1 Card reader
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> langzn: no idea man, try a few, see which you like
[10:26] <koshari> langzn i only know of sane
[10:26] <donkeyofdarkness> rajec, ffmpeg
[10:26] <donkeyofdarkness> mencode
[10:26] <donkeyofdarkness> transcode
[10:26] <Jordan_U> waan: No, that will still exit the script
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> rajec: what do you want to convert to?
[10:26] <rajec> ActionParship: mpeg, avi
[10:27] <Jordan_U> waan: Just comment out the return statement entirely
[10:27] <Flannel> !afk > lmg_AFK
[10:27] <langzn> cool guys ive been looking for them just cant seem to find alternatives
[10:27] <Kn_> when i start ubuntu my awn doesnt show up. i try to enable my desktop effekt, and i get an error but also the awn shows up then but the position on my desktop is messed up.
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> rajec: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369822
[10:27] <langzn> you say you get one called gimp :?
[10:27] <waan> Jordan_U, ok thanks again for your help
[10:27] <Jordan_U> waan: np
[10:27] <koshari> langzn gimp still uses sane for scanning, most apps do
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> rajec: all i websearched was ubuntu mov to avi, and i got a whole swathe of results
[10:28] <donkeyofdarkness> ffmpeg works great
[10:28] <langzn> ok thanx guys seeya later
[10:28] <Felix_Krull> lmg: I checked that. The only thing I saw is that under System>Preferences>Removable drives and Media there are no removable drives AT ALL. Also, I did my job with Nautilus>Edit>Preferences>Media and checked everything as should be, before...
[10:28] <langzn> how do i save this channel on Pidgin
[10:29] <biouser_> how to remove a ln symbolic link or can I just rm the file?
[10:29] <error404notfound> I have a drive and I want to convert it to ntfs without losing data, how do I do it?
[10:29] <rajec> ActionParsnip: I want something tested. From my experience you can't be sure when trying something on linux
[10:29] <koshari> biouser_ you rm the symlink
[10:29] <biouser_> error404notfound, I don't think that is possible
[10:29] <Felix_Krull> Why on Earth would usb-flash work and cd/dvd and sd not??? This is stupid and annoying. Ans it worked in all previous versions, and in Hardy, in the beginning...
[10:29] <koshari>  error404notfound use windows
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> rajec: well thats how you learn, you try stuff
[10:30] <Kn_> when i start ubuntu my awn doesnt show up. i try to enable my desktop effekt, and i get an error but also the awn shows up then but the position on my desktop is messed up.
[10:30] <biouser_> $rm (same syntax as to make th link)   koshari?
[10:30] <error404notfound> isn't there any tool under linux that would format it as ntfs?
[10:30] <donkeyofdarkness> yes
[10:30] <donkeyofdarkness> gparted
[10:30] <Shihan> for some reason, the netboot kernel/initrd from the alt cd keeps trying to load a cdrom... i just dont get it
[10:30] <koshari> biouser_: ln is the command to create a lionk
[10:30] <donkeyofdarkness> back the data up, format it, and put the data back on it
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> langzn: under conversation you should see add
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> langzn: i use pidin but cant seem to add
[10:31] <biouser_> rm -s then , eh?
[10:31] <langzn> Dude action
[10:31] <langzn> All you do is
[10:32] <langzn> go to buddies
[10:32] <koshari> while on pidgin subject anyone know how to hide the rooms comments ie entering, leaving
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: there mkfs.vfat
[10:32] <langzn> and click add chat
[10:32] <koshari> biouser_ just rm linkname
[10:32] <langzn> then add the channel room name
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> langzn: ive got rooms add dude, just couldnt remember
[10:32] <Muhammad_Saad> Hi, I want to know how to change the resolution used at the GDM login screen. Can someone help?
[10:33] <langzn> ok cool
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> langzn: you can add them from different servers too and they all hang together making it transparent
[10:33] <Jordan_U> koshari: Use a real IRC client, pidgin is great, just not for IRC :)
[10:33] <orly_owl> how can i tell what video driver is being used on the hardy live CD?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> langzn: well, the connecting transparent
[10:33] <coyctecm> Hi guys. I used Archlinux for a long time(year or two) yesterday I decided to come back to the ubuntu camp. I'm amazed how good Ubuntu is. Everything just works out of the box. Even my Microsoft nx-3000 webcam. Now I can do my coding without playing around with os settings. Cheers!
[10:33] <langzn> NOW a real question how do you add a new theme on ubuntu
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Onyx:  glxinfo
[10:33] <langzn> I like eyecandy
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> !themes | langzn
[10:33] <Jordan_U> langzn: Drag the theme into the theme chooser
[10:33] <koshari> Jordan_U yeah but i dont like xchat, no coloured names and hard to copy/drag user names
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | langzn
[10:34] <Niche> hehe my ubuntu looks sexy right now ^_^
[10:34] <koshari> langzn in gnome download the theme and drag it into the theme manager
[10:34] <donkeyofdarkness> I made mine ugly
[10:34] <Niche> lmao
[10:34] <stampida> anybody knows how to install beryl on unbuntu 8
[10:34] <Niche> how'd you do that
[10:34] <waan> Niche, which one did you settle on?
[10:34] <Jordan_U> !beryl | stampida
[10:34] <langzn> so i download the theme file and just drag to theme manager
[10:34] <Niche> cairo
[10:34] <donkeyofdarkness> I used old themes
[10:34] <langzn> ?
[10:34] <Nemesis> does anyone know how i can mount an iso so i can run it like it would be a cd (like alcohol120%
[10:34] <koshari> stampida beryl is no longer supported you want compiz fusuion
[10:34] <joaopinto> !iso | Nemesis
[10:34] <erUSUL> !iso | N
[10:35] <Jordan_U> langzn: Yup
[10:35] <stampida> thank you
[10:35] <Nemesis> cheers guys
[10:35] <langzn> but normally they are .rpm folders that i download
[10:35] <langzn> that need to be extracted
[10:36] <langzn> ?
[10:36] <Jordan_U> langzn: Where are you getting themes?
[10:36] <langzn> I still very new to ubuntu
[10:36] <seedbox> can anyone think of anything within ubuntu that would mess up port forwarding on my router?
[10:36] <langzn> the net
[10:36] <langzn> dunno what site
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> langzn: rpm is not for debian
[10:36] <langzn> o
[10:36] <Jordan_U> langzn: .rpm's are Red Hat's package format, used for software. While it can be used for gnome themes it usually isn't
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> langzn: go to www.gnomelook.org
[10:37] <Niche> rats... when I click to open Cairo Dock nothing happens... anyone know what could be going on?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Niche: have you configured it any?
[10:37] <Niche> ActionParsnip, no... I just got it installed
[10:38] <Jordan_U> langzn: You might also try installing "gnome-art" it lets you browse and install many themes from art.gnome.org
[10:38] <l3d> is there a way to ,manualy change the login window in ubuntu not through the gui
[10:38] <l3d> or to try to change it as root
[10:39] <donkeyofdarkness> http://www.gnome-look.org/
[10:39] <G14N14RI12> Hello.
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Niche: did you install the plugins?
[10:39] <Niche> yep
[10:39] <Niche> ActionParsnip, yeah I did
[10:40] <G14N14RI12> I'm still having problems installing Ubuntu on the fakeRAID. :(
[10:40] <kindofabuzz> you can aliean an rpm
[10:40] <kindofabuzz> alien
[10:40] <lcj> trhgdsdfghdf
[10:40] <lcj> 反对恢复
[10:40] <langzn> Guys thanks for all the help
[10:40] <Kn__> #ubuntu.de
[10:41] <langzn> Can you tell me how exactly to download Gnome Art
[10:41] <langzn> I went to the site
[10:41] <langzn> Clicked the Download link
[10:41] <G14N14RI12> has anyone here gone through the fakeRAID howto?
[10:41] <langzn> And now it brought me to a page
[10:41] <langzn> than give me info
[10:42] <langzn> no physical download
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> !raid | G14N14RI12
[10:42] <Niche> brb
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Niche: try this: cd ~/ ls -a
[10:42] <langzn> ok wait something happening
[10:42] <koshari> langzn use synaptic if you are new
[10:43] <koshari> langzn oh sorry not for gnome art
[10:44] <langzn> gnome art has come up with a ftp page
[10:45] <Nemesis> just another question about the mounting from iso's what do i fill in for <mountpoint>?
[10:45] <langzn> with diff.gz or tar.bz2 files
[10:45] <Nemesis> i am new to this all
[10:45] <G14N14RI12> Is ubottu automated to respond to fakeRAID or something?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: any empty folder (id suggest making one in /mnt (you'll need sudo))
[10:45] <Nemesis> ah ok
[10:45] <Nemesis> cool gonna try that
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: sudo mkdir /mnt/virtualcd
[10:46] <Nemesis> thanks action parsnip
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: then sudo mount /path/to/file.iso /mnt/virtualcd
[10:46] <Nemesis> superb
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: theres some -loop stuff there too but it will tell you
[10:46] <DJones> G14N14RI12: ubottu's not quite that clever, ActionParsnip saw your question about fakeraid and gave ubottu the command to give you the info/link
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: you can mount anything to an empty folder anywhere (just not /var)
[10:47] <Nemesis> ok and i use console to do the command s right
[10:47] <kisk> @ubunti servers
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> G14N14RI12: i poked ubottu to tell youo
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: indeed
[10:47] <Nemesis> i'll try the one you gave as an example
[10:47] <LordAnubis> Hi
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: users cannot mount so you'll need sudo
[10:48] <waan> Is there a reason only firefox 3 beta is available for hardy?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> waan: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[10:48] <LordAnubis> I'm trying to install ubunut to a virtual machine using Windows Virtual PC, and it's giving me checksum errors. Can anyone help me please?
[10:48] <waan> ActionParsnip, cool I thought that was a bit weird
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> waan: not massively, try tab completing package names ;)
[10:49] <G14N14RI12> I've been trying to follow the howto, but now I'm stuck at installing the bootloader
[10:49] <langzn> Ok ive downloaded the tar file and extracted it now how do i install gnome art
[10:50] <waan> ActionParsnip, I just thought firefox would update through the package manager, but I guess the beta will only update beta versions
[10:50] <donkeyofdarkness> epiphany is better
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> G14N14RI12: i dont think you can install the bootloader on raid, i seem to remember someone saying it but ive never set it up (well fakeraid anyhoo)
[10:51] <G14N14RI12> there's a section in the howto where you tell GRUB what to boot from.
[10:51] <Nemesis> i did this
[10:51] <Nemesis> sudo mount /home/patrick/Adobe Photoshop CS2.iso /mnt/virtualcd
[10:51] <G14N14RI12> setting up the bootloader for RAID
[10:51] <Nemesis> but get below it the usage for mount commands
[10:52] <recoy> hello i got a question about my log in screen. The font when you type in your user name and password is ridiculously big! i was wondering if anyone knew how to fix this.
[10:52] <Nemesis> the virtualcd folder in mnt has been created
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: cool
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: you can copy and paste to the terminal you know
[10:52] <Nemesis> yes
[10:53] <niche> Can anyone help me uninstall cairo-dock? I have problems with it and it won't show up on Add/Remove programs
[10:53] <waan> ActionParsnip, it's already installed, firefox-3.0 still opens the beta
[10:53] <Nemesis> so the steps i did are as follows
[10:53] <Nemesis> sudo mkdir /mnt/virtualcd
[10:53] <Nemesis> which created the folder in mnt
[10:53] <Nemesis> then i did sudo mount /home/patrick/Adobe Photoshop CS2.iso /mnt/virtualcd
[10:53] <Nemesis> but from there it doesnt do anything
[10:54] <Nemesis> just the help,commands for mounting
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: you'll need to type Adobe\ Photoshop\ CS2.iso
[10:54] <niche> does photoshop work on linux..?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: as spaces need those
[10:54] <Nemesis> ah ok
[10:54] <test4711> ignore #ubuntu CRAP NOTICES SNOTES CTCPS JOINS PARTS QUITS KICKS MODES WALLOPS NICKS DCC DCCMSGS CLIENTNOTICES CLIENTCRAP CLIENTERRORS HILIGHTS
[10:54] <Nemesis> trying now :P
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> niche: works with cedega
[10:54] <Aque0s> Hi all, I have my old laptop next to me - it is a compaq nx9000. I have the Ubuntu 8.04 ISO burned to a disk - but when I try to install it on the laptop, it just sits on the desktop for HOURS and the disk drive is 'working' -- i am completely new to *nix and i would like to learn :)
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> niche: or similar
[10:54] <Tim183> atheros ar5007eg card, ubuntu 8.4.1 madwifi 10.5.6, can see networks but not access them, any help? ive tried jsut about every howto on every forum i could find?????? thanks
[10:54] <niche> ActionParsnip, is that like Wine?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: you do realise that gimp is open source and does a very very similar job
[10:55] <waan> ActionParsnip, the package manager still shows it as 3.0~b5
[10:55] <panhack> http://panhack.tk
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> niche: pretty much but its got some extra goodies, cedega is also closed source and paid for
[10:55] <st3ph> :D
[10:55] <panhack> my site is http://panhack.tk
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> waan: then uninstall all firefoxes and reinstall, your settings are held in ~/.mozilla so will be safe
[10:55] <Nemesis> yes it is just that i am soo used tp photoshop
[10:56] <niche> ActionParsnip, that's right... it's like $5 a month! Is there a free program that runs Photoshop?
[10:56] <Nemesis> and i quickly need to do some stuff for a friend
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> panhack: we told you to quit advertising yesterday
[10:56] <DJones> !ops | panhack (Spamming his website - Did the same thing yesterday)
[10:56] <Nemesis> i removed windows and took the step to go fully linux now
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> niche: no idea, it not something of interest to me
[10:56] <niche> Can anyone help me uninstall cairo-dock?
[10:56] <niche> i r the nooob
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> niche: do you have a .cairo-dock folder in ~/
[10:57] <Aque0s> ActionParsnip: maybe you have an idea? :/
[10:57] <LimCore> hello
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Aque0s: about what?
[10:57] <Aque0s> Hi all, I have my old laptop next to me - it is a compaq nx9000. I have the Ubuntu 8.04 ISO burned to a disk - but when I try to install it on the laptop, it just sits on the desktop for HOURS and the disk drive is 'working' -- i am completely new to *nix and i would like to learn :)
[10:58] <LimCore> kmail asks me each time for stupid openpgp passphrase. Why it doesnt see kgpg backend?!   Using http://kontact.kde.org/kmail/kmail-pgpmime-howto.php did not help much
[10:58] <niche> ActionParsnip, not sure, it's in my Home/Niche/ folder... is that ~/ ??
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Aque0s: did you md5 check the image and the cd once it was burned
[10:58] <nnull> ActionParsnip, any idea how i found out why my system hardlocks? like does it log any file or anything to tell me what caused the system lockup?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> niche: yes ~/ = /home/<your name>
[10:58] <Aque0s> ActionParsnip:  how do i do that ;/
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> nnull: read the logs
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Aque0s
[10:58] <nnull> ActionParsnip, i do i cant find any information of any use
[10:58] <waan> ActionParsnip, it still grabs 3.0~b5 when installing
[10:58] <DJones> Aque0s: how much memory does the laptop have, with it being an old laptop, maybe its not got enough to install
[10:58] <niche> ActionParsnip, ok so yeah it's in there... What do I do?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Aque0s: you may have a bad image or a bad disk
[10:58] <Aque0s> ty ActionParsnip
[10:59] <Nemesis> ActionParsnip: it now works except .iso is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[10:59] <langzn> WHAT is the best program to run windows app on ubuntu
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> niche: rm it
[10:59] <Aque0s> It has 192mb i think?
[10:59] <nnull> langzn, wine? lol
[10:59] <Cosmo-san> hey guys, trying to display some systems resources in a c++ program, is there a command for cpu/memory usage and the standard stuff?
[10:59] <DJones> !wine | langzn
[10:59] <waan> langzn, WINE
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: yes, add that to after the word mount in the command
[10:59] <Nemesis> ok
[10:59] <Ad0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916597 whelp :(
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Cosmo-san: konky does that
[10:59] <st3ph> action hi
[11:00] <niche> ActionParsnip, can I sudo nautilus it too?
[11:00] <Cosmo-san> konky?  uh oh~
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> niche: never sudo nautilus, you use gksu nautilus
[11:01] <st3ph> my xchat dont works since yesterday everytime i open that program its closes after one sec
[11:01] <Nemesis> ActionParsnip: sudo mount -o loop /home/patrick/CS2.iso /mnt/virtualcd
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> niche: if you are simply removing that folder then use rm -rf ./.cair-dock
[11:01] <nnull> gksu nautilus --browser
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: looks fine, you can try stuff like that, it wont break anything
[11:01] <Nemesis> ok i pressed enter and got command line after that
[11:01]  * ActionParsnip uses thunar
[11:01] <smm289> is there a linux command that is similiar to the windows chkdsk
[11:01] <DJones> Aque0s: The recommendation for installing ubuntu from the livecd is 384mb, you might need to try the alternative cd which doesn't use a graphical installer during installation, or you could use xubuntu which is aimed at lower memory systems
[11:02] <niche> ActionParsnip, I think I did it with "sudo rm -r ~/cairo-dock" is that correct too or hazardous?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | smm289
[11:02] <Cosmo-san> ActionParsnip:  can you narrow that down?  google comes up empty.
[11:02] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the command to find out how much ram ive got in human readable form?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> !konky | Cosmo-san
[11:02] <Nemesis> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help it worked :)
[11:02] <Pirate_Hunter> !concky
[11:02] <Cosmo-san> !conky
[11:02] <niche> ActionParsnip, I wanted to uninstall it though b/c it's not working so I can try it again... Did that uninstall it or do I need to do more?
[11:02] <HymnToLife> Pirate_Hunter: free -m
[11:02] <Tim183> atheros ar5007eg card, ubuntu 8.4.1 madwifi 10.5.6, can see networks but not access them, any help? ive tried jsut about every howto on every forum i could find?????? thanks
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> !info konqi | Cosmo-san
[11:03] <ghaleb> hello, I have created a keypair for ssh, but the server ask for password only from one client, others are work fine, any help ?
[11:03] <Pirate_Hunter> HymnToLife: ok
[11:03] <Aque0s> DJones: does xubuntu have a gui etc? what is the difference between it and standard ubuntu?
[11:03] <Cosmo-san> =/
[11:03] <smm289> i place the system into hybernate, when it wakes up it seems like fsck always finds some kinda of error.  But then the system continues booting and all is well.  Just one of those things I should ignore?
[11:04] <HymnToLife> ghaleb: do you have your private key on said client ?
[11:04] <ghaleb> Aque0s: xubuntu uses XFCE desktop manager
[11:04] <nnull> Aque0s, yes it has a gui, just a more simplistic one
[11:04] <HymnToLife> desktop environment*
[11:04] <ghaleb> HymnToLife: yes indeed
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> !superkaramba | Cosmo-san
[11:04] <nnull> where ive got a candy desktop that hardlocks whenever its used for anything remotely useful heh
[11:04] <niche> ActionParsnip, I wanted to uninstall it though b/c it's not working so I can try it again... Did that uninstall it or do I need to do more?
[11:05] <Cosmo-san> uh, I'll look around, I guess
[11:05] <Aque0s> ok and the alternate CD, it basically is normal ubuntu with what differences?
[11:05] <Nemesis> dont you just love Ubuntu :)
[11:05] <HymnToLife> Aque0s: the installer is text-based, not graphical
[11:05] <ghaleb> HymnToLife: it made me crazy! .. there should be sth
[11:05] <niche> Nemesis, yarrse
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> niche: dpkg -l | firefox
[11:05] <Aque0s> HymnToLife: thats it? thats the only difference?
[11:06] <HymnToLife> yes
[11:06] <waan> Is there a way to upgrade firefox beta to firefox 3.0 without downloading the package from mozilla.com?
[11:06] <nnull> Nemesis, how long u been using it\
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> niche: you trying to remove firefox?
[11:06] <Nemesis> 4 weeks
[11:06] <Nemesis> dumped windows all together
[11:06] <nnull> lolk
[11:06] <niche> ActionParsnip, haha no, I am trying to remove cairo-dock
[11:06] <Nemesis> but i got everything i need running on ubuntu
[11:06] <Nemesis> so windows is out
[11:06] <smm289> Nemesis, me too, ditched windows on my laptop, and on my file server.  Am not going back ;)
[11:06] <HymnToLife> Aque0s: well, the alternate CD can also be used to install a command-line only system, while the desktop one cannot
[11:07] <nnull> niche, sudo apt-get remove cairo-dock? or use synaptic would be a better idea
[11:07] <smm289> I just miss my roboform
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> niche: oh ok, if you close cairo-dock and delete that folder, you will get stock settings when it is next run
[11:07] <Nemesis> me neither gonna stick with it now
[11:07] <Nemesis> i used opensuse for some time but like ubuntu better
[11:07] <niche> Ah ok, Thanks
[11:08] <ghaleb> HymnToLife: I'm sure i did everything correctly , I made the same process for many hosts and servers, it worked, I don't know why this special client refused
[11:08] <DJones> !xubuntu | Aque0s: thhe xubuntu gui is quite similar to ubuntu Have a look at ubottu's link
[11:09] <ackbahr> Hello!
[11:09] <Nemesis> lo
[11:09] <vincenzo> ciao
[11:09] <ackbahr> I'm a teacher and I'm getting really bored with these scissors and glue thing to create handouts.... Does someone know of a good tool to do this from scans? I'm talking in the context of Ubuntu or GPL at least, of course.... Thanks!
[11:10] <Russian> hello, I am having a lot of trouble with getting my wireless connection working on my laptop, can anyone help me please?
[11:10] <thecarrioncrow> is it a encrypted network or not?
[11:11] <Russian> yes, but I dont even see any connections
[11:11] <Russian> I am running ubuntu x64
[11:11] <thecarrioncrow> ok
[11:11] <Russian> these are the specs --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/45454/
[11:11] <yeshaswi_mr> `
[11:11] <smm289> am running fsck -n -v, i'm getting a list of orphaned inodes,  whats that all about
[11:11] <niche> Russian, I had the same problem
[11:12] <Russian> niche did you fix it?
[11:12] <waan> Is there a way to upgrade firefox beta to firefox 3.0.1 without downloading the package from mozilla.com?
[11:12] <niche> Russian, I'm trying find the post that I followed
[11:12] <ackbahr> Gotta go... So long folks!
[11:12] <Russian> niche ok thanks =)
[11:13] <LimCore> does ubuntu yet support email encryption (fully) or not realy?
[11:13] <erUSUL> waan: what version of ubntu?
[11:14] <smm289> orphaned inode list ? is that bad ?
[11:14] <Cosmo-san> ubuntu is not an email client, for email encryption you may want to try an email client
[11:14] <matteo_> Hi all, i am trying to install the latest version of ubuntu on an old hp laptop from a dvd. I choose language from the menu and then i select install and the loading begin, but it stck for more than 10 min.. Any tips?? :D
[11:14] <waan> erUSUL, 8.04 hardy
[11:15] <Ad0> erUSUL: hi again :) I made a forum post this time.
[11:15] <waan> erUSUL, i've updated my package sources but the latest seems to be 3.0~b5
[11:15] <erUSUL> waan: should have been upgraded autopmatically...
[11:15] <donkeyofdarkness> you broke it
[11:15] <mikebeecham> hi guys...this is not Ubuntu driven, but please dont flame me.  I have a freenode channel and I am having problems kicking them from the channel....can anyone help?
[11:15] <erUSUL> waan: Check System>Admin>Software sources the updates tab
[11:15] <smm289> !orhaned ubide
[11:15] <erUSUL> Ad0: hi; hope you get some good advice
[11:16] <DJones> mikebeecham: You might want to ask that in #freenode, they should be able to help you
[11:16] <smm289> !orphaned inode
[11:16] <mikebeecham> thanks
[11:16] <enos> hello. can bugs be reported here?
[11:16] <DJones> !bugs | enos
[11:16] <niche> Russian, you still waiting? I'm still looking .... :S
[11:17] <enos> ty
[11:17] <yeshaswi_mr> +
[11:17] <waan> erUSUL, ok for some reason everything was deselected, I just upgraded to the latest version so thats weird. Everythings updating now thanks :)
[11:17] <Finnish> I have a new laptop. Sometimes my headphones output works, and sometimes not. When not, laptop plays songs from speakers. Whats wrong?
[11:17] <Russian> niche yes I am
[11:18] <erUSUL> waan: do *not* mark *proposed* updates only the other ones
[11:18] <mrwhippy> hi all, can anyone help me with my bind9 setup please, i get errors in syslog when restarting stating that my zone files one saying extra text the other saying unknown class/type yet i cant see anything wrong with them
[11:18] <waan> erUSUL, no just security and recommended :)
[11:18] <Russian> niche did you say anything?
[11:18] <Russian> I got disconnected
[11:18] <erUSUL> waan: ok :)
[11:18] <Russian> niche if you have a link please paste it in pm, cause I have to go for 15 min
[11:19] <Tim183> atheros ar5007eg card, ubuntu 8.4.1 madwifi 10.5.6, can see networks but not access them, any help? ive tried jsut about every howto on every forum i could find?????? thanks
[11:19] <waan> erUSUL, 102MB of goodness to update :) woohoo
[11:19] <Tengu> hello
[11:19] <enos> can anyone help me to repeat a bug before I file it pls? it's about gnome panel
[11:20] <Ad0> erUSUL: yeah hope so too
[11:20] <Tengu> I'm wondering on how I can execute networking post-up scripts when I'm using networkmanager
[11:20] <Ad0> so far noone has responded.
[11:20] <Tengu> does anyone of you know ?
[11:20] <Ad0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916597 for reference, erUSUL
[11:20] <Ad0> I have no idea what it could be
[11:21] <jochenh> Hi! I'm searching for a software which syncs folders with the server.Do you have any suggestions?
[11:21] <enos> nm bye
[11:21] <Tengu> "nm" isn't a networkmanager tool :P
[11:22] <Tengu> in fact, on other debian-like system, there are directories in /etc/network/if-[up/down] and some other; we put scripts in them, and if-up / if-down commands just launch them
[11:23] <Tengu> unfortunately, it seems that it's not the case when we use networkmanager
[11:23] <donkeyofdarkness> failure??
[11:23] <Tengu> and, if we dare put some specific NIC configurations in /etc/network/interfaces, networkmanager can't see them anymore.
[11:23] <Tengu> donkeyofdarkness: nope.
[11:24] <Tengu> script runs fine, paths are in "full" mode so that there's no problem for it to find programs/commands
[11:25] <jochenh> any suggestions for a software which syncs folders with a server?
[11:25] <donkeyofdarkness> rsync?
[11:26] <jochenh> donkeyofdarkness: has it a gui?
[11:26] <donkeyofdarkness> it might
[11:26] <nnull> are onboard network cards the devil?
[11:26] <Tim183> atheros ar5007eg card, ubuntu 8.4.1 madwifi 10.5.6, can see networks but not access them, any help? ive tried jsut about every howto on every forum i could find?????? thanks
[11:27] <donkeyofdarkness> everything is the devil
[11:27] <kisk> @ubunti servers
[11:28] <jochenh> donkeyofdarkness: how do i start the gui?do i have to install it?
[11:29] <donkeyofdarkness> yes
[11:30] <l3d> is there a way to ,manualy change the login window in ubuntu not through the gui
[11:30] <donkeyofdarkness> grsync
[11:30] <donkeyofdarkness> http://www.opbyte.it/grsync/screenshot.html
[11:32] <mrwhippy> hi all, anyone around willing to help me find the errors in my bind9 zone files i have been looking at them all week and cant see an error
[11:32] <[nrx]> mrwhippy, stick them in a pastebin :)
[11:32] <donkeyofdarkness> you broke it
[11:34] <newb> !clone
[11:34] <newb> !clone
[11:35] <ph0rensic> well
[11:35] <ph0rensic> whats shakin
[11:35] <[nrx]> y0 ass.
[11:35] <ph0rensic> damn and i slapped it a good ten minutes ago too
[11:36] <mrwhippy> nrx: http://pastebin.com/m7fe957f thanks they are both on there,
[11:36] <rubydiamond> test
[11:36] <rubydiamond> hush
[11:36] <Tim183> atheros ar5007eg card, ubuntu 8.4.1 madwifi 10.5.6, can see networks but not access them, any help? ive tried jsut about every howto on every forum i could find??????  would love some help
[11:37] <rubydiamond> was away fro mthe channel for the two days
[11:37] <[nrx]> mrwhippy, missed '.' from ns line
[11:38] <[nrx]> mrwhippy, and your SOA lines after .uk
[11:39] <CapaH> My /bin/ directory and a variety of files such as hostname, ps, etc has been corrupted (my mistake) --- how can I recover them? When I try to run for example ps or hostname I get: bash: unable to run executable
[11:39] <mrwhippy> nrx: ah thanks, been on this for days,
[11:39] <CapaH> bash: /bin/hostname: cannot execute binary file
[11:39] <mrwhippy> nrx: will give it a try now
[11:39] <CapaH> The files themselves have been corrupted and I need to restore them -- anyone know how to go about doing this?
[11:39] <[nrx]> mrwhippy, general rule anything with text in it (domain names) must close with a period '.'
[11:39] <doctorow> I have a long list of filenames like "/home/doctorow/Music/A/Ames Brothers and Roy Ross/From CD - orig. Coral 60140/Rag Mop.mp3" that I want to copy into a directory. I've tried making a shell script that just does cp '$FILENAME$ . but it keeps choking on special characters in the filename, like parens -- why doesn't surrounding the filename with 'quotes' take care of this? Alternately, is there a smarter way to do this?
[11:40] <mrwhippy> nrx: thanks again for that and thanks for the tip
[11:40] <[nrx]> find . -type f -exec cp /path/to -v {} \;
[11:40] <[nrx]> mrwhippy, np
[11:41] <erUSUL> doctorow: the file list is on a text file?
[11:41] <doctorow> erUSUL: yes
[11:42] <erUSUL> doctorow: cp "$FILENAME$" (with double quotes) does not work ?
[11:42] <dns53> doctorow you are going to have problems and some of this depends on the shell you use, i have heard fish handles this better but i don't know
[11:42] <erUSUL> doctorow: also ask in #bash
[11:42] <doctorow> erUSUL, EMbarassingly, I've only tried single-quotes. Let me try double quotes quickly.
[11:43] <Terra_> hi
[11:43] <dns53> double quotes work some of the time, you generally need to use \'s to get special  characters to work
[11:45] <doctorow> erUSUL, Double-quotes worked! Many thanks!
[11:45] <Simonono> Hi, Can anyone help me with creating a launcher I can use in starterbar? I've got a script that disables Compiz Fusion while I play OpenArena, and then reenables it when i close openarena, but I can't add it as a launcher?! I just want the script to be executed when I push the launcher! Please help :)
[11:45] <erUSUL> doctorow: no problem
[11:45] <Simonono> Ohhh. And I'm quite new to ubuntu! (Loving it!!)
[11:46] <dns53> Simonono the best way is create a bash script and then create the launcher to call the script
[11:46] <mrwhippy> nrx: hi mate, afraid its still not working, i get the following erros in my syslog, for the top bit, "dns_rdata_fromtext: /etc/bind/db.swintonit.local:7: near '@': extra input text and for the bottom bit unknown class type, however things have improved as i no longer get server failed from nslookup i get timeouts now
[11:47] <[nrx]> mrwhippy, can you pasteup your zones again?
[11:47] <st3ph> wb action
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:48] <st3ph> my second ay on ubuntu :D
[11:48] <st3ph> day*
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> st3ph: and how is it going?
[11:48] <mrwhippy> nrx: http://pastebin.com/m79533224
[11:49] <st3ph> i still didnt throw the pc out of window lol
[11:49] <mrwhippy> nrx: do i need . after the local on lines 2 and 20??
[11:49] <DIFH-iceroot> what happend if swap + ram are full? any warnings? or just crash?
[11:50] <CapaH> bash: /bin/hostname: cannot execute binary file <--- I managed to overwrite some key files in /bin/ such as hostname, ps and a few others -- can anyone please tell me a fast way to recover/restore these files?
[11:50] <CapaH> basically -- how to reinstall the 'core' system
[11:50] <CapaH> preferably with some nice apt-get or aptitude command
[11:50] <st3ph> its weird to use it
[11:50] <[nrx]> mrwhippy, yes
[11:50] <st3ph> especial the download and install section
[11:51] <mrwhippy> nrx: doh sorry mate thought i had put them all in noticed that when re reading it.
[11:51] <[nrx]> :)
[11:51] <ghaleb> hello, is there a way to pass the password while typing ssh bb@serv.com
[11:51] <[nrx]> mrwhippy, check line 25 too.
[11:51] <macv1> ﻿
[11:51] <macv1> hi all......... is anyone able to use Texas 5in1 Card reader
[11:52] <st3ph> got already some probs but try to figure them out
[11:52] <[nrx]> mrwhippy ) before ;, can't remember which way it should be. Think it's ; before )
[11:52] <mib_bio> I have a nice new server install here. I am wondering how is a an easy way to get a Desktop manager and some goodies without going all the way through with ubuntu-desktop
[11:52] <mrwhippy> nrx: ; on wrong side
[11:52] <mrwhippy> nrx: ill swap it over and see what happens
[11:52] <DIFH-iceroot> mib_bio: why a gui for a server?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> mib_bio: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[11:53] <mib_bio> DIFH-iceroot: so I can do some development and stuff sometimes with multiple workspaces and such
[11:53] <DIFH-iceroot> mib_bio: ok
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> mib_bio: fluxbox is nice and light and doesnt come with all the gnome rubish that ubuntu-desktop brings
[11:53] <mib_bio> multiple instances of vim
[11:54] <mib_bio> tabbed terminals
[11:54] <mib_bio> a cat here and a grep there
[11:55] <Finnish> My cousin can't use WoW on his PC (too old machine) and it is unregistered so I got it. Do I have to pay in the beginning if I register WoW?
[11:56] <mib_bio> wrong channel?
[11:56] <l3d> is there a way to ,manualy change the login window in ubuntu not through the gui
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Finnish: as long as its unregistered you can use it
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Finnish: plus wrong channel, your question is not ubuntu based
[11:56] <mib_bio> couldn't connect to XServer
[11:57] <Finnish> Well I'm going to try it with Ubuntu, so I guess I'm gonna need some help to get it run
[11:57] <favro> mib_bio: you'll need xorg as well
[11:57] <dns53> l3d the config file is /etc/gdm/gdm.conf so open it up and have a look
[11:57] <mib_bio> I have xorg
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> !wow | finnish
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> mib_bio: do you have xorg-server
[11:58] <mib_bio> ActionParsnip: probably not, thanks
[11:58] <[nrx]> mrwhippy, any joy?
[11:59] <waan> Can you make security and recommended updates download from your selected mirror instead of security.ubuntu.com, or are they only available this way?
[11:59] <mib_bio> couldn't find package... guess I have to play with source.lst
[11:59] <Bug_> test
[12:01] <mib_bio> where can I find what to put in sources.list?
[12:01] <mrwhippy> nrx: still get the same errors, not sure whats happening at all http://pastebin.com/d3cf352c
[12:02] <mrwhippy> nrx: just realised i did not do the serial numbers
[12:02] <kindofabuzz> mib_bio, http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror
[12:02] <[nrx]> mrwhippy lolol
[12:02] <mib_bio> to just use a bare gdm do you know what the packages would be?
[12:03] <favro> mib_bio: it would be gdm
[12:03] <mikeyfbi> hey guys, i have a funny glitch
[12:03] <mikeyfbi> i just upgraded to a fresh install of 8.04
[12:03] <mikeyfbi> and installed ccsm
[12:04] <mikeyfbi> but none of my keyshortcuts will save
[12:04] <mib_bio> with panels and workspaces and such... or is that all ubuntu-desktop
[12:04] <mib_bio> favro: ^
[12:04] <slashjamiec> steph_: Are you here? :)
[12:05] <favro> mib_bio: I install fluxbox and thunar 'cause it comes with xfce-panel
[12:05] <slashjamiec> favro: yeah, it's nice like that
[12:06] <st3ph> slashhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:-*
[12:06] <st3ph> yes i am :P
[12:06] <slashjamiec> st3ph: yay =D
[12:06] <slashjamiec> st3ph: <3
[12:07] <niche> Do you guys think the new kernal used for 8.10 going to improve much over 8.04?
[12:07] <rubydiam_> Hi.. I want to uninstall installed git from my ubuntu machine
[12:07] <rubydiam_> how do I do that..  I did sudo apt-get remove git
[12:07] <slashjamiec> rubydiam: sudo aptitude remove git
[12:07] <rubydiam_> but still git is there
[12:08] <slashjamiec> replace apt-get with aptitude
[12:08] <Chousuke> git-core?
[12:08] <Chousuke> !info git-core
[12:08] <niche> lowls get-core it is
[12:08] <rubydiam_> Chousuke: yeah..
[12:08] <dns53> there are 2 things called git, git-core is the version control
[12:08] <rubydiam_> it worked
[12:08] <st3ph> <3
[12:08] <dns53> you may need to update-alternatives and set the right git
[12:09] <rubydiam_> what is difference between apt-get and aptitude, need I remove it from both
[12:09] <slashjamiec> rubydiam: cool
[12:09] <rubydiam_> bascially I wanted to upgrade to latest version of git on my ubuntu machine
[12:09] <Chousuke> rubydiam_: they both operate on the dpkg database, so no
[12:09] <Chousuke> rubydiam_: aptitude is just smarter than apt-get
[12:09] <slashjamiec> rubydiam_ : Only need to remove it from aptitude, as aptitude is your package manager, while apt-get gets packages from your aptitude repository's
[12:10] <dns53> apt-get --purge remove
[12:10] <_julian> hi all
[12:10] <Chousuke> slashjamiec: that's not quite correct
[12:10] <Chousuke> slashjamiec: apt-get and aptitude are both APT frontends
[12:10] <jonrust> help
[12:10] <_julian> I have a problem logging in to some ssh servers (they work if I connect from my mac os notebook) - I get:
[12:10] <_julian> buffer_get_ret: trying to get more bytes 4 than in buffer 0
[12:10] <_julian> buffer_get_int: buffer error
[12:10] <_julian> any ideas?
[12:10] <slashjamiec> Chousuke: I spose not, I've just got back from a great drinking session, so please bare with my lack of knowledge about certain apps tonight
[12:10] <FloodBot1> _julian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <Chousuke> strictly speaking, dpkg is the package manager.
[12:11] <waan> Are ubuntu security updates only available from security.ubuntu.com, or can they be downloaded from your selected mirror?
[12:12] <rubydiam_> what is the best way to install latest version got git on my ubuntu machine
[12:12] <rubydiam_> I am using gutsy
[12:12] <xota> hi! how can I organize my wlan networks? Because ubuntu always connect to a wlan that I don't like
[12:13] <rubydiamond> test
[12:14] <rubydiamond> how do I assure latest version of git is installed on my ubuntu machine, when I do sudo apt-get install git-core
[12:15] <ufo> ubuntu slow?
[12:15] <nnull> yes
[12:15] <nnull> kbye
[12:15] <favro> rubydiamond: sudo apt-get update then install will get the latest ubuntu package
[12:15] <nnull> lolk
[12:16] <slashjamiec> ufo: Is there an issue?
[12:16] <spiritssight> how can I change a user's password on my system
[12:16] <frederick> on my intel graphics card opengl video output is always shown in foreground. for example when i use glxgears the gears are always rendered even though i put a window in front of it. i'm using the intel driver on hardy, just upgraded to version 2.4.0, but it did not give any improvement. is this a known bug, or does it just happen for me?
[12:17] <waan> spiritssight, go to administration -> users and groups
[12:17] <xbxb> Hey, I resized my swap partition from 1.8 GB to 3.7 GB with gparted, even checked /etc/fstab, everything is mounted correctly, but my system monitor still says 'swap: 1.8 GB'. what did I do wrong?
[12:18] <rubydiamond> favro: still it is pretty old one  git-core 1.5.2.5-2build1, I did sudo apt-get update
[12:18] <ph0rensic> spiritssight: Or just use passwd
[12:19] <dns53> xbxb you probably need to reformat the swap partition, the file system does not know it's bigger
[12:19] <rajec> Guys it is possible for workspace to have its own files? I would like to be able to divide files as I am now able windows. You know what I mean?
[12:19] <favro> rubydiamond: well that is the latest ubuntu package for git - there might be a deb on their site you can use
[12:19] <xbxb> dns53: thanks, I'll try that
[12:19] <mikea87> hi, why my ubuntu is sometimes restarting as if I clicked ctrl+alt+Bakspace?
[12:20] <waan> rajec, not quite, what do you mean?
[12:20] <waan> mikael79, because that is the hotkey for restart xsession
[12:20] <rajec> waan: now you can have different windows on each workspace right?
[12:20] <mikea87> I know but I didn't press these keys - ubuntu is restarting automaticly
[12:20] <mib_bio> can someone try again to tell me how to get a basic gnome desktop from a new server install (with panels :P) but so the system still boots to command line
[12:20] <waan> rajec, yep i'm using 3 now
[12:21] <mib_bio> I can seem to find any documentation
[12:21] <mib_bio> *can't
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> rajec: you can have different apps running in different workspaces but the files are gloally accessible
[12:21] <slashjamiec> mikea97: Did you edit anything to do with GTK or xorg prior to this
[12:21] <Chousuke> mib_bio: install ubuntu-desktop, remove gdm :p
[12:21] <mib_bio> but then I get OO and al sorts of stuff
[12:21] <mib_bio> gedit
[12:22] <Chousuke> mib_bio: well yeah
[12:22] <slashjamiec> mikea87: * Did you edit anything to do with GTK or xorg prior to this
[12:22] <Chousuke> you can also install the gnome packages one by one.
[12:22] <ph0rensic> mib_bio: I know sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will install gnome and its packages but I don't know if it still boots to command line
[12:22] <rajec> ActionParsnip: Is there any way how turn it off? I would like to have certain files on certain workspace
[12:22] <favro> mib_bio: I think the basics are called gnome-core - and don't install gdm
[12:22] <mikea87> I didn't edit anything - it seems to me that it has lack of memory but gtk widget shows only 60% memory usage
[12:22] <mib_bio> all I have is xorg right now that it isn't fresh out of the server install
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> rajec: not sure, im sure theres a way
[12:23] <ganes>  screen resolution is not coming properly for HP Compaq 6720s laptop
[12:23] <waan> rajec, what you're talking about doesn't really make sense ??
[12:23] <rajec> waan: ActionParsnip understands it
[12:23] <waan> rajec, sorry i'm not sure
[12:23] <mib_bio> favro: then how do you go into desktop... something in \etc\
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> waan: he wants certain files only accessible when a certain workspace is in view
[12:24] <waan> rajec, it sounds like you want a different filesystem for each workspace, which is weird
[12:24] <favro> mib_bio: no - you type   startx  - and it starts x
[12:24] <mib_bio> hmm.. that would be convenient...
[12:24] <rajec> waan: I want to have different files on each workspace
[12:24] <favro> mib_bio: with you're installed window manager
[12:24] <waan> mikael79, sorry I'm not sure why your computer is restarting
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> rajec: you could have some logic based on what workspace is in view and add the logged in user to a group and remove it from another (making the user permission move as the workspace moves)
[12:25] <unggnu> hi all
[12:25] <mib_bio> gnome-core is 58meg dl - 336meg disk space... that should have some panels...
[12:25] <waan> rajec, like, open a different folder on each workspace?
[12:25] <slashjamiec> !hi | unggnu
[12:25] <rajec> ActionParsnip: hmm something more easier more direct
[12:25] <favro> mib_bio: it will :)
[12:25] <oops6_4> I think this is not the very right place but still I am asking here because after all windows %$%$% , I want to install vista on my laptop I have ubuntu 8.04 already install I want to make dual boot, i have 50 gb of free space where I wan to install vista , I have attempt for it , select the free space and format it using the gui of vist then proceed for installation its give me this error "windows is unable to find a system voluem that meets its criteri
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> rajec: im unsure how to go about that but you could then set the owner of your selected files to the groups and the user would only have access if the certain workspace was visible
[12:25] <unggnu> Does anyone know how to have the same functionality of this python script http://pastebin.ca/1199883 with bash?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> rajec: not gonna happen, what you are asking is very complex
[12:25] <rajec> waan: have different files on different workspace. For example. When I look on first workspace there will be media files, on second some other files..
[12:25] <unggnu> hi slashjamiec
[12:26] <slashjamiec> oops6_4 : Only ubuntu issues or installs, try creating a new partition with your left over space, as you can't install vista on the same partition as ubuntu
[12:26] <slashjamiec> How are you, unggnu?
[12:26] <mib_bio> just trying to have some goodies this time but not start grabbing everything that looks tasty out of the repos
[12:26] <rajec> ActionParsnip: teoretically if each workspace will be able to hold list of files it contain with some information it should work
[12:26] <unggnu> slashjamiec: Fine, thanks ;)
[12:26] <slashjamiec> excellent!
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> rajec: i think you can have different shortcuts on different workspaces but that does not deny access if the user fires up a terminal
[12:26] <waan> rajec, can't you store the files in seperate folders, and have each folder for each window?
[12:26] <mib_bio> meanwhile making the source and running the .bins redundantly :P
[12:26] <slashjamiec> I'll grab another beer and I'll be back
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> rajec: is that what you mean? just shortcuts or actual file permissions and access
[12:27] <xbxb> dns53:  thanks, it worked :)
[12:27] <waan> ActionParsnip, I think he wants music on one window, movies on another etc etc
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> waan: he sounded like he wanted permissions switching too
[12:28] <oops6_4> slashjamiec: I have created a new partition of my left place and tried to install the vista on that but still it won't
[12:28] <slashjamiec> back
[12:29] <slashjamiec> oops6_4: Is there an error being displayed?
[12:29] <rajec> waan: folder are shared too so its same
[12:29] <oops6_4> slashjamiec: yes its "windows is unable to find a system voluem that meets its criteria for installation  me:  windows is unable to find a system voluem that meets its criteria for installation"
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> werd up slashjamiec
[12:29] <waan> rajec, do you want to restrict access to files from one workspace, or just list certail files?
[12:29] <slashjamiec> ActionParsnip: chea
[12:29] <Nemesis> lo all does anyone know how to get shockwave player to work with firefox?
[12:30] <rajec> waan: I think we are thinking about something else so nevermind ;)
[12:30] <jrib> !shockwave | Nemesis
[12:30] <kindofabuzz> !flash | Nemesis
[12:30] <slashjamiec> oops6_4: I'm natively a *nix user and can't help with Windows Vista installations beyond partitioning on the same drive as ubuntu installs. Refer to your user manual, sorry.
[12:30] <waan> rajec, if you just mean different shortcuts for different workspaces??
[12:30] <rajec> waan: I am getting confused ;)
[12:30] <oops6_4> slashjamiec: ok not a problem thanks for time
[12:31] <rajec> waan: I want to have different files on each workspace.
[12:31] <solexious> [
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> rajec: do you want to see shortcuts to your multimedia on one desktop, and games on another?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> rajec: define "files"
[12:31] <waan> rajec, how many workspaces do you have?
[12:31] <mib_bio> yes! tabbed-terminals and workspaces... gnome-core is pretty cruft-less.. ty favro and everyone else!
[12:32] <favro> np :)
[12:32] <ph0rensic> Anyone heard any news on Chrome for linux?
[12:33] <waan> rajec, maybe if you rephrase the question a bit?
[12:33] <waan> ActionParsnip, he might mean physical workspaces like laptop/desktop
[12:33] <slashjamiec> rajec: I thought workspaces were display and temporary memory only, if you want to assign different files and permissions for each workspace, just create user accounts that can seamlessly be switched?
[12:34] <waan> rajec, what do you use to view you "files"
[12:34] <rajec> waan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_file
[12:35] <waan> do you use a console, nautillus?
[12:35] <rajec> I want to be able to have different files on each my workspace. Now I can open 4 different Firefox windows and  put each on different workspace. I want to do the same with files
[12:36] <waan> rajec, ok then what it sounds like is.. you want different parts of your filesystem available for seperate workspaces?
[12:36] <niche> Will Ubuntu have any performance issues running on a 15GB partition?
[12:36] <slashjamiec> niche: nah it shouldn't
[12:36] <jrib> niche: I don't see why
[12:37] <RoflCoptr> http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
[12:38] <jrib> !offtopic | RoflCoptr
[12:38] <jlgshk> ubuntu-es
[12:38] <javierg> Would anyone know what I can't click on VNC option in the drop down box for Terminal Server Client?
[12:38] <jlgshk> #ubuntu-es
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> rajec: just make symlinks
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> jlgshk: try /j #ubuntu-es
[12:39] <_-Jay-_> Afternoon all.  Just wondering if anyone else is having any trouble with kpanel on ubuntu at the moment,  mine is kind of sick after the last update on 8.4
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> !kpanel
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> !info kpanel
[12:39] <ricardoromao> someone could help me, I have a Ubuntu in a windows network, I setup the samba in ubuntu and I can see the network but doesn't the files inside the windows folder
[12:39] <dns53> !kpannel
[12:40] <Russian> is there a way to remove grub and not damaginb Vista?
[12:40] <damla> hi
[12:41] <waan> Russian, if you remove grub you will probably have to reinstall windows bootloader
[12:41] <dns53> put in your vista cd, there is an option for vista to rewrite your mbr
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Russian: run the vista cd and boot to recovery console, in console, type fixboot
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Russian: id ask in #windows
[12:41] <waan> Russian, if you dont like grub you could use lilo instead
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Russian: its more a windows question
[12:41] <mib_bio> How would one stop X?
[12:42] <dns53> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:42] <favro> mib_bio: ctrl+alt+bkspace
[12:42] <Russian> so fixboot remove grub?
[12:42] <Russian> removes*
[12:42] <dns53> yes, it rewrites the windows bootloader
[12:42] <waan> Russian, no idea what fixboot is sorry
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Russian: yes in the vista boot cd, id ask in#windows as its a windows question
[12:42] <Russian> dns53 thanks
[12:42] <Russian> ActionParsnip ok ty
[12:43] <slashjamiec> ActionParsnip: *passes you a Jack Daniels and Ice*
[12:43] <mib_bio> ty favro
[12:43] <duton> those commands used to be inside the windows folder
[12:43] <duton> i think
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> slashjamiec: i got some JD icecube makers to celebrate jack's birthday
[12:44] <slashjamiec> ActionParsnip: Great, so do you have the spirit?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> slashjamiec: always
[12:44] <slashjamiec> ActionParnsip: Awesome =D - join me?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> duton: i just know of it, ive not done it
[12:45] <jlgshk> saludo
[12:45] <edaoman> how could i look for which packages i had installed?
[12:45] <waan> rajec, did you figure it out yet?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> edaoman: dpkg -l | less
[12:46] <edaoman> thanks
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> edaoman: or if you prefer: cd ~/; dpkg -l > packages.txt; gedit ./packages.txt
[12:47] <Jafet> Hi. How would I set the incorrect password delay? Three seconds is a minor nuisance.
[12:47] <spiritssight> Do you know where the default home directory is for apachie webserver
[12:47] <spiritssight> under ubuntu
[12:47] <dns53> /var/www
[12:48] <spiritssight> thanks
[12:48] <edaoman> oh,thanks
[12:48] <ganes> resolution is not fit to the screen for hp compaq 6720s laptop what to do
[12:48] <waan> ganes, change the resolution?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> ganes have you installed graphics drivers?
[12:48] <javierg> Would anyone know what I can't click on VNC option in the drop down box for Terminal Server Client?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> javierg: can you if you run it with gksu?
[12:49] <javierg> hm let me try that.
[12:49] <babaklinux> hi
[12:49] <spiritssight> how can I do some thing in gui and log sudo as root to do it
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> spiritssight: use gksu for gui apps and sudo for cli apps
[12:50] <waan> open a terminal "sudo su"
[12:50] <babaklinux> whwn i want install ubuntu after few min this message appear  http://i38.tinypic.com/2v2d0qw.jpg  what is this ?
[12:50] <javierg> ActionParsnip, No =(
[12:50] <teste> Hi
[12:50] <mib_bio> babaklinux: mystery to me
[12:51] <nagyv1> Hi! I have a webcam that works perfectly with Skype, but I can't have it recording my voice in a flash application in Firefox. I've allowed the app to access my microphone, but still nothing. I've tried to record sound with the sound recorder but that doesn't work either.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> babaklinux: did you md5 check the cd and image you downloaded?
[12:51] <Nemesis> is there an easy way to upgrade amsn? it says on amsn there is a newer version
[12:51] <lyte> hi, i have cron emailing to my gmail account, is there a way to change the from address in the email it sends?
[12:51] <babaklinux> ActionParsnip: no
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> babaklinux: gt it checked, you may have a bad image
[12:51] <babaklinux> ActionParsnip: how can i check it?
[12:51] <spiritssight> see I want to be able to change or what ever to files that are under root premission but I want tdo it in gui I get this box that says run ... as user... I don't know what to type in run its for the file browser
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> babaklinux: which means the data is incorrect
[12:51] <Ziroday> Hi, I can't connect to MSN through pidgin
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | babaklinux
[12:51] <teste> tOla
[12:51] <teste> Ola
[12:52] <Nemesis> lo
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Ziroday: you have to use http method
[12:52] <waan> lyte, you'd have to edit the mailserver config
[12:52] <waan> lyte, I haven't used ubuntu for mail so i have no idea how to do it
[12:53] <Ziroday> ActionParsnip: is this temporary?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Ziroday: nope its the way it is
[12:53] <Nemesis> mine pidge works with direct connection
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Ziroday: as far as ive seen
[12:53] <Ziroday> ActionParsnip: how come I didn't have to do this before?
[12:53] <lyte> waan, i've adjusted the /etc/mailname file and that made sendmail send with the right domain but cron uses the domain from /etc/hostname (which is not what i want)
[12:53] <Optyk> Hi there.
[12:54] <Andy80> hi all
[12:54] <whyameye> I need to shrink an lvm partition configured on 2 disks as raid 1. How would I do this using a live cd?
[12:54] <Optyk> My gnome doesn't start up, kde session runs fine, how can I fix it?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Ziroday: its the only way ive ever had it work
[12:54] <waan> lyte, I thinkn the mailserver will always use what's in hostname. That's how it worked when I used mail on FreeBSD
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Ziroday: it works the same
[12:54] <waan> lyte, maybe sendmail documentation might help for changing the hostname
[12:54] <Andy80> I'm using proprietary Nvidia driver at the moment... I'd like to restore the old "nv" driver to make some tests. How can I restore it? Do I have to change from nvidia to nv in xorg.conf or do I have to change something else?
[12:55] <Ziroday> ActionParsnip: hmm I wouldn't agree with that :), thanks anyway
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Ziroday: np bro
[12:55] <dns53> whyameye first resize the file system, then shrink the file system with lvresize
[12:55] <lyte> waan, hahah... oops. just needed to restart cron :/
[12:55] <waan> lyte, hehe
[12:56] <Optyk> Andy80: just restart X now
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Andy80: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Andy80: edit the nvidia line to nv
[12:56] <Nemesis> i run the latest version of ubuntu does this mean i have Tcl/Tk 8.5
[12:56] <ozkelligirl> hi all what is the ubuntu desktop with the most visual fx
[12:56] <Nemesis> or 8.4?
[12:56] <Optyk> Can I anywhere find gnome logs?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Nemesis: dpkg -l | grep tcl
[12:57] <javierg> Would anyone know what I can't click on VNC option in the drop down box for Terminal Server Client?
[12:57] <Andy80> ActionParsnip, Optyk: thanks! I restart X
[12:57] <Nemesis> thx
[12:57] <Onyx> ActionParsnip: what about it?
[12:57] <whyameye> dns53: how do I resize the partition? gparted won't let me because it doesn't recognize lvm as a file system type.
[12:57] <citronbleu-v> bonjour, quelqu'un peut me dire comment on se déplace dans la zone 3D de blender sur ubuntu
[12:57] <citronbleu-v> ?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Onyx: about what?
 Onyx:  glxinfo
[12:57] <steve_> hi, can someone help me with dvd play back, I have totem and totem-xine installed but totem can't do menus and totem-xine can't find libdvdcss
[12:57] <dns53> you use the command line tool lvresize as root
[12:57] <citronbleu-v> hoops sorry
[12:57] <ozkelligirl> hi all
[12:58] <whyameye> dns53: lvresize is on the live cd?
[12:58] <Jafet> ozkelligirl, Vista?
[12:58] <Ziroday> ActionParsnip: fron the pidgin folks, currently MSN servers are experiencing 'issues'
[12:58] <ozkelligirl> ubuntu
[12:58] <slashjamiec> steve_ sudo apt-get install libdvdcss and run totem-xine again
[12:58] <dns53> it should be on most linux cds
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Ziroday: when are they not?
[12:58] <slashjamiec> ActionParsnip: I've been d/c'd 4 times in the past 48 hours. MSN sucks right now in my books
[12:58] <Ziroday> ActionParsnip: :)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> its a poor protocol
[12:59] <[nrx]> This one time, in band camp.
[12:59] <[nrx]> I saw your mom.
[12:59] <[nrx]> wrong channel. </spam>
[12:59] <slashjamiec> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I reimplemnented MSNP9 on my servers for fun one day
[12:59] <waan> Ziroday, hello... microsoft :P
[12:59] <whyameye> dns53: looking at the man page it looks like lvresize resizes the logical volume, but not the physical partition.
[12:59] <steve_> slashjamiec: thanks
[13:00] <slashjamiec> setve_ no problems mate
[13:00] <st3ph> :D
[13:00] <whyameye> dns53: and the file system itself has to be shrunk first, according to the man page.
[13:00] <slashjamiec> st3ph: :D:D:D:D
[13:00] <slashjamiec> st3ph: <3
[13:00] <st3ph> :P
[13:00] <ozkelligirl> i'm looking for a desktop for ubuntu with lots of visual fx can any one  help?
[13:01] <jrib> ozkelligirl: are you using GNOME now?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> ozkelligirl: install graphics drivers then jump into #compiz
[13:01] <ozkelligirl> using gnome
[13:01] <jrib> !ccsm | ozkelligirl
[13:02] <ganes> waan, changing the resolution is not affecting
[13:02] <ganes> ActionParsnip, yeah everything is there
[13:02] <waan> ganes, so it's still streched no matter what resolution?
[13:02] <ozkelligirl> thanks all
[13:02] <waan> ozkelligirl, compiz is the bomb
[13:02] <Pirate_Hunter>  how do i add more dekstop windows in xubuntu?
[13:03] <ganes> waan, some part of the screen is not covered when i boot in windows it s covering fully
[13:03] <Armada> does Adobe Flash use OSS or something? as it locks up with no sound whenever I run a second application that uses the sound card
[13:03] <slashjamiec> Pirate_Hunter: In xfce, you mean you can add more panels?
[13:03] <waan> ganes, so you have a black part on one side?
[13:03] <hummesse> hello! I'm trying to join the ##java channel but it says that i need to be 'identified' whatever that means. Can anybody help?
[13:04] <Pici> !register | hummesse
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Armada: are you on 32bit ubuntu or 64bit ubuntu
[13:04] <ganes> waan, no both side
 32-bit
[13:04] <waan> ganes, what resolution do you have right now?
[13:04] <hummesse> thanks
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Armada: you may need sudo apt-get install flahplugin-nonfree
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> !flash | Armada
[13:05] <Armada> ActionParsnip: I've got that one
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Armada: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ubuntu+flash+no+sound&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
[13:06] <Armada> ActionParsnip: Already solved it, thanks anyway
[13:06] <Pirate_Hunter> slashjamiec: hmm like in ubuntu i want four virtual desktops
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Armada: sweet
[13:06] <ganes> waan, right it is at 1280x1024
[13:07] <__gotcha> Is there a way to allow a non root user to open a port under 1024 ?
[13:07] <waan> ganes, try 1280x800
[13:07] <slashjamiec> pirate_hunter: Yeah, in your desktop manager it should just be there
[13:07] <slashjamiec> brb
[13:07] <ganes> waan, right it is at 1280x768
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> __gotcha: im sure you could but itd be a massive security risk
[13:07] <Pirate_Hunter> slashjamiec: but yeah please tell me how to add panek as i deleted my lower one by accident
[13:08] <ganes> waan, even if i change the resolution in xorg.conf file .. it is not affecting   why
[13:08] <Jafet> Pirate_Hunter, right-click any other panel and do "New Panel"
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Pirate_Hunter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=407350
[13:08] <Armada> Can I safely completely remove pulseaudio?
[13:08] <waan> ganes, is this a fresh install?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Armada: yeah sure
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Armada: its just a sound system
[13:09] <ganes> waan, yea
[13:09] <slashjamiec> back yo
[13:09] <Armada> ActionParsnip: K, because it was the culprit behind my flash not working
[13:09] <waan> ganes, what video card do you have in that computer?
[13:09] <babaklinux> ActionParsnip: excuse me your mean from md5 is a  text file which is on dvd ?
[13:10] <Pirate_Hunter> ActionParsnip, Jafet, slashjamiec: ty
[13:10] <suwerrat> start2enjoy.com
[13:11] <slashjamiec> suwerrat: No spam, please, ubuntu only questions.
[13:11] <suwerrat> ok sorry bout that
[13:11] <slashjamiec> ok
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> babaklinux: no, the md5 on the server yuo downloaded from
[13:11] <Armada> ActionParsnip: Can't remove it, ubuntu-desktop depends on it
[13:11] <ganes> waan,  lspci showing --- Intel corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Armada: then leave it and use alsa
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> babaklinux: and get an md5 checking app and compare the outputs
[13:12] <slashjamiec> IM GOING TO STAB MSN MESSENGER
[13:12] <st3ph> LOL
[13:12] <babaklinux> ActionParsnip: i bout this dvd  not download now what can i do?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> babaklinux: md5check the cd
[13:12] <Pici> babaklinux: Are you on Windows right now?
[13:13] <Jafet> babaklinux, take the .iso or whatever you downloaded, take the MD5 string for that file you downloaded, use an md5 program to see if the MD5 for your .iso matches the one given by the server.
[13:13] <babaklinux> Pici: yes
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> babaklinux: you can also boot the cd and tell it to check the cd for errors
[13:13] <suwerrat> is there an open VEOH player for Ubuntu?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> suwerrat: whats VEOH?
[13:13] <Jafet> babaklinux, there is http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/winmd5sum_portable for Windows, among other programs.
[13:13] <suwerrat> its a movie format - like avi or vob
[13:14] <legend2440> Armada: are you having problem of no sound with flash?
[13:14] <Pici> babaklinux: And you do not have an ISO file, correct, just the physical media?
[13:14] <suwerrat> it more of a player then anything
[13:14] <waan> ganes, do you know what the native resolution of the lcd is?
[13:14] <Armada> legend2440: already solved it
[13:14] <waan> ganes, if you use that and restart it should work fine
[13:14] <ganes> waan, do not know
[13:14] <Pici> babaklinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck?action=show&redirect=CDIntegrityCheck
[13:15] <waan> ganes, then I'm not sure sorry :( somebody else can probably help more
[13:15] <Kardoso> Hi
[13:15] <slashjamiec> !hi | Kardoso
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> hi Kardoso
[13:16] <slashjamiec> !hi | slashjamiec
[13:16] <ganes> waan, do you know the resolution for that
[13:16] <Kardoso> I plan to buy a new HDD for ubuntu: 160 GB WD 7200 8MB   will ubuntu run good on it?
[13:16] <lat> I have a usb hard drive formatted for NTFS which I want to reformat as ext3. What is the best way to do this?
[13:16] <slashjamiec> Kardoso: I don't see why not
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> lat: backup the data then run gparted
[13:17] <Kardoso> hi ActionParsnip :)
[13:17] <Kardoso> slashjamiec: ok
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> lat: formatting will destroy the data
[13:17] <slashjamiec> Kardoso: Actually, should run brilliant on 7200RPM :d
[13:17] <waan> ganes, what model is your laptop?
[13:18] <lat> ActionParsnip, ok. Many thanks!
[13:18] <slashjamiec> oh noes, jack daniels everywhere in keyboard!
[13:18] <Kardoso> slashjamiec: thats great to hear :) thank you
[13:18] <slashjamiec> Kardoso: No problems
[13:18] <ganes> waan, hp compaq 6720s
[13:18] <waan> ganes, you shouldn't need to modify xorg.conf, just change in System -> preferences -> screen resolution
[13:19] <Kardoso> ganes: wow! i have same laptop model!
[13:19] <jlgshk_> #ubuntu-es
[13:19] <ganes> waan, yeah i tried there only .. it is showing only 1280x768 is the last
[13:19] <kunisch> anybody wanna help with loading a kernelmodule ?. I think im missing the intelfb module for my 945gm gfx. my lsmod: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45764/ system: laptop with ubuntu 8.04
[13:20] <ganes> waan, what to do if i want other than that
[13:20] <slashjamiec> ganes: So that'd be the only supported res for your lcd?
[13:20] <waan> ganes, yeah it should be 1280x800
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> kunisch: sudo modprobe <whatever>
[13:21] <Kardoso> ganes: the HP-Compaq 6720s laptop's max res is 1280x800
[13:21] <ganes> waan, 1024x768 is current now .. then how to select the 1280x800
[13:21] <waan> ganes, i have no idea @_@
[13:21] <rich_> yo
[13:21] <ganes> Kardoso, that option is not there in the list
[13:21] <rich_> is it possible to boot a proliant server from the 2nd cpu only? the first ppm is damaged
[13:21] <waan> ganes, did you backup xorg.conf?
[13:22] <ganes> waan, yeah
[13:22] <legend2440> ganes: in terminal type     gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> ganes: you could change the res in xorg.conf and restart x, id backup xorg.conf before playing
[13:22] <linduxed> how do i get a command run at logout? (kinda the opposite of the session window)
[13:22] <waan> ganes, what happens if you put the original back, reboot and then what resolutions are in the list?
[13:23] <ubuntu_> join #ubuntu.it
[13:23] <waan> ganes, I'm talking about the screen resolutions list in gnome
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUK248&=&q=ubuntu+run+a+command+at+logout&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[13:23] <ubuntu_> azz
[13:23] <ganes> ActionParsnip, yeah that only i did its not taking .. even if i remove the whole part from the xorg file .. then also it is entering to 1024x768
[13:23] <linduxed> ActionParsnip: thx
[13:23] <slashjamiec> anyone else having issues with MSN?
[13:23] <ganes> waan, yeah that only im telling you
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: can you see what i did?
[13:23] <Ab3L> hello
[13:23] <slashjamiec> !hi | ab3l
[13:23] <waan> ganes, hmm
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> slashjamiec: im not on it
[13:24] <Jafet> slashjamiec, what be these issues?
[13:24] <Ad0> http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=253588&messageID=2472483
[13:24] <Kardoso> sorry, i had connection lost
[13:24] <slashjamiec> Jafet: Can't sign in, got dc'd and can't sign back in, same issues as last night at this exact time, and same issues 7 hours ago, too
[13:24] <Kardoso> ganes, did you say something while i reconnected?
[13:24] <Kardoso> ganes, if yes please repeat it
[13:24] <st3ph> i see u as online
[13:24] <ganes> Kardoso, about what
[13:24] <st3ph> naa now u offline
[13:25] <Jafet> slashjamiec, well, MSN is rubbish. Deal with it; I did.
[13:25] <Kardoso> about the screen res
[13:25] <slashjamiec> st3ph: Well thats bullocks, I have no emesene process running
[13:25] <slashjamiec> Jafet: Thanks for your inspiring device that I already was aware of.
[13:25] <Kardoso> ganes: about the HP-Compaq 6720s screen res
[13:25] <st3ph> i saw u online few mins ago
[13:25] <st3ph> now u offline :P
[13:25] <ganes> legend2440, no response for this command  gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[13:25] <slashjamiec> device = advice *
[13:25] <slashjamiec> st3ph: Thanks
[13:25] <Kardoso> st3ph: me?
[13:25] <linduxed> ActionParsnip: yeah you did the nicer version of http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/
[13:25] <slashjamiec> Kardoso: nah, me
[13:25] <linduxed> ActionParsnip: :-P
[13:25] <st3ph> no i dont have ur msn lmao
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: you got it ;)
[13:26] <ganes> Kardoso, yeah i repeated
[13:26] <Kardoso> slashjamiec: oh, ok. sorry
[13:26] <slashjamiec> !language | linduxed
[13:26] <Kardoso> ganes: ok
[13:26] <st3ph> which is the perfect msn "alternative"?
[13:26] <ganes> Kardoso, same error
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: it appears theres a few so i sent you the lot, plus i use more than just google
[13:26] <Jafet> Google is family friendly.
[13:26] <Jafet> st3ph, you're on it.
[13:26] <ganes> Kardoso, same error only (resolution)
[13:26] <slashjamiec> st3ph: emesene a Python GTK vairant
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> st3ph: no such thing
[13:26] <Kardoso> st3ph: i think aMSN
[13:26] <slashjamiec> variant*
[13:26] <ulifer> does anyone know what sources i need to install urxvt or dhcpcd?
[13:26] <linduxed> slashjamiec: will do
[13:26] <Jafet> st3ph, there is also Jabber.
[13:26] <st3ph> i use amsn it sucks
[13:26] <waan> st3ph, pidgin works good
[13:26] <slashjamiec> Kardoso: Yuk
[13:26] <rubydiamond> Hi what is wrong with my .bashrc http://pastie.org/270421
[13:26] <Andril> can some one look at this and tell me what you think for Ubuntu http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/acer-aspire-m1640-u1401a/4505-3118_7-33016439.html
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> st3ph: you can run msn with wine but not the latest one
[13:26] <legend2440> ganes: in terminal type     sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk
[13:27] <Kardoso> ganes: which ubuntu version you have?
[13:27] <waan> st3ph, pidgin supports pretty much every other im protocal also
[13:27] <slashjamiec> st3ph: emesene is a nice python GTK alternative.
[13:27] <st3ph> i cant login with my account in pidgin for msn only for irc
[13:27] <ganes> Kardoso, 7.04
[13:27] <st3ph> is there an alternative to wine?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> st3ph: you need to go to advanced connection settings and use http method
[13:27] <Kardoso> ganes, oh. please try to run 8.04 in live cd mode
[13:27] <slashjamiec> st3ph: Exactly, MSN login server is having issues. It's not the application, I've tried everything including executing commands directly from the protocol on 1863
[13:27] <st3ph> Action i dunno how
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> st3ph: cedega or crossover office (both cost)
[13:28] <ganes> Kardoso, i didnt 8.04 cd
[13:28] <slashjamiec> anywho, goodnight all
[13:28] <st3ph> poor slash (K)
[13:28] <ulifer> anyone knwo why dhcpcd shows up in synaptic package manager but no twhen i sudo aptitude search for it?
[13:28] <ganes> Kardoso, here net is very slow to download
[13:28] <slashjamiec> ehe thanks st3ph (K)(K)
[13:28] <st3ph> u go :(
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> st3ph: accounts -> manage -> modify the account and click advanced tab
[13:28] <slashjamiec> goodnight all (L)
[13:28] <st3ph> nighty hun
[13:28] <Kardoso> ganes, i could not try 7.04 because i only have 8.04
[13:28] <Kardoso> ganes, oh. im so sorry
[13:29] <st3ph> Action pm?
[13:29] <ganes> Kardoso, u got these problem anytime
[13:29] <st3ph> its maybe easier for me
[13:29] <ganes> Kardoso, i can order for ubuntu latest version .. how to
[13:29] <Kardoso> ganes, can you give me a link where can i download 7.04?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> ganes: shippit.ubuntu.org
[13:30] <ganes> ActionParsnip, its not opening
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> ganes: websearch for order ubuntu cds
[13:31] <Kardoso> ganes, one moment
[13:31] <ganes> Kardoso, i got this cd from from my friend i didnt know .. how to download
[13:31] <waan> ganes, it's probably a simple problem but hard to diagnose over chat
[13:32] <Ad0> is there a daemon in ubuntu that listens to apps that crash ?
[13:32] <Kardoso> ganes, https://shipit.ubuntu.com/  you can order it there
[13:32] <Kardoso> ganes, oh ok.
[13:33] <Pirate_Hunter> is there an app that changes theme when logging onto the system?
[13:34] <rblst> Pirate_Hunter: do you mean the login screen?
[13:34] <mandark> any idea how to update only my wine package
[13:34] <Pirate_Hunter> rblst: yes
[13:35] <ushimitsudoki> mandark: do you mean you want to install a newer package of wine than is in the repositories?
[13:35] <rblst> Pirate_Hunter: yes, in the System->Administration menu
[13:36] <Pirate_Hunter> ushimitsudoki: i think he means just update wine to a newer version through terminal
[13:36] <Pirate_Hunter> rblst: yah.... once i go there what do i do
[13:36] <kindofabuzz> mandark, winehq.com has all the info on how to add to repos
[13:36] <Kardoso> ganes, can you give me a link where to download 7.04? ill try it on my laptop
[13:37] <rblst> Pirate_Hunter: do you use gnome?
[13:37] <waan> Does anybody have an Intel Pro Wireless 200bg they use with Ubuntu?
[13:37] <waan> *2200bg
[13:37] <jrib> Kardoso: 7.04 is about to lose support in october, why would you want to install it now?
[13:38] <Pirate_Hunter> rblst: yah im just want the theme to change on every login or boot
[13:38] <Kardoso> jrib: i dont want to install it, just to test it in live cd mode
[13:38] <ganes> Kardoso, better google
[13:38] <ganes> Kardoso, i too dont know
[13:38] <Kardoso> jrib: i would like to help to ganes, we have same laptop
[13:38] <jrib> Kardoso: releases.ubuntu.com
[13:38] <Kardoso> jrib: ok. thanks
[13:38] <Kardoso> jrib: can i run it in live cd mode?
[13:39] <jrib> Kardoso: yep, just grab the Desktop CD and don't click on "Install" :)
[13:39] <Kardoso> jrib: ok :)
[13:39] <ganes> Kardoso, yeah you can help me
[13:40] <rblst> Pirate_Hunter: so there's an item "login screen" or something similar in that menu, i don't use the english version; or run /usr/sbin/gdmsetup in terminal
[13:40] <Siph0n> hey, how do I find out the workgroup name of my linux laptop?
[13:40] <Pirate_Hunter> rblst: thats for gdm im trying to change actual desktop themes on every boot or login its different
[13:40] <Finnish> Can I modify an XP-image in Ubuntu? And then burn it as a bootable iso?
[13:41] <rblst>  Pirate_Hunter: and then select the "local" tab at the top, and then change "theme" to "random"
[13:41] <Pirate_Hunter> is there an app that changes desktop theme on every boot or loggin?
[13:41] <Kardoso> ganes, i started to download it
[13:41] <ganes> Kardoso, try this link for 7.04 http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Ubuntu-Feisty-Fawn-Download-20757.html
[13:41] <ganes> Kardoso, i didnt see your previous messagge
[13:42] <st3ph> Action
[13:42] <rich_> any hardware guyds here?
[13:42] <legend2440> Siph0n: in terminal type     gedit /etc/hostname
[13:42] <Kardoso> ganes, ok, thanks but i started from releases.ubuntu.com
[13:42] <Kardoso> how can i change the host name?
[13:43] <mrxmike> what is a PPA repos?
[13:43] <Pici> !hostname > Kardoso
[13:43] <st3ph> wheres action?
[13:43] <mrxmike> personal repos? :S
[13:43] <mrxmike> !ppa
[13:43] <Kardoso> Pici: thanks
[13:43] <m12> hello
[13:44] <rblst> then i misunderstood you, Pirate_Hunter, sorry, i don't think there is such an app
[13:44] <Pirate_Hunter> rblst: np
[13:44] <m12> i am trying to install sun-java6-plugin on 8.04 to fix error with java applet loading in Firefox3, but it says that package is referd to by another package, can someone help resolve this ?
[13:45] <Kardoso> ill brb
[13:46] <argento> m12, you cant install it with synaptic?
[13:46] <m12> agento, i dont have idea what other package is that ?
[13:47] <argento> system administration synaptic
[13:47] <m12> argento, i was refering to sun-java6-plugin package
[13:47] <overridex> is there a newer/easier way to configure extra mouse buttons besides the old imwheel tricks?
[13:47] <ushimitsudoki> overridex: check out btnx i like it
[13:48] <argento> m12, im asking if you cant install it...
[13:48] <m12> argento : Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[13:49] <jrib> m12: what is the output of 'uname -m'?
[13:49] <argento> m12, sudo update-alternatives --config java   what are the options?
[13:49] <m12> jrib: x86_64
[13:49] <yell0w> hey guys what's the default password for the live cd ?
[13:49] <dns53> none
[13:49] <m12> argento , 1 min
[13:50] <dns53> yell0w i mean a blank password, press enter
[13:50] <m12> argento : There is only 1 program which provides java
[13:50] <m12> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
[13:50] <jrib> m12: sun does not provide a 64bit plugin.  Either use some open java or install a 32bit firefox with plugins
[13:50] <jrib> !java > m12
[13:50] <jrib> !flash64 > m12
[13:51] <argento> m12, jrib did it
[13:51] <m12> jrib:  tnx i try it out
[13:51] <scucci> How do I go about refreshing my preview icons for movie files?
[13:51] <overridex> ushimitsudoki: is that in the normal repos or do I need to add one?
[13:51] <jrib> scucci: tried hitting reload in nautilus?
[13:52] <ushimitsudoki> overridex: i think when i installed it i got a deb from the web site (http://www.ollisalonen.com/btnx/)....it's been a while
[13:52] <scucci> Yeah, does nothing. Just reloads the existing icons and the ones it didn't make a preview of because I was still downloading them.
[13:52] <SPEED_VIRUS> Привет всем!
[13:52] <scucci> Just shows the little 'film reel' icon.
[13:53] <SPEED_VIRUS> есть кто нибудь?
[13:53] <jrib> scucci: rm -rf ~/.thumbnails/fail/ then hit reload do any better?
[13:53] <jrib> !ru | SPEED_VIRUS
[13:53] <scucci> Well... I'll be damned. lol
[13:53] <scucci> Yeah, that worked... I'm retarded. Thank you.
[13:54] <jrib> scucci: well it's not an obvious thing to do :)
[13:54] <jono> kelemengabor: ping
[13:54] <kelemengabor> jono: pong
[13:54] <scucci> Yeah, but I should've looked through my hidden folders to see if anything looked like it could've worked...
[13:55] <scucci> If I had seen a folder names ".thumbnails"... probably would'a figured that one out.
[13:55] <jrib> scucci: well you could checkout things like freedesktop.org for the thumbnail spec
[13:55] <scucci> Thank you again, that's been bugging me for a while.
[13:55] <overridex> ushimitsudoki: thanks for the help :)
[13:56] <ushimitsudoki> overridex: sure thing...good luck
[13:57] <scucci> I tried looking through a few pages, but couldn't really find anything... then again, it is early here and I did just wake up a little bit ago, so there's a better than average chance that I just looked over it in my morning fog.
[13:58] <versus> hi, I use the 173.14.12 nvidia driver with ubuntu hardy on a dell vostro 1500 and want to connect it to a HP w2408h the driver seems to see the display but I have no idea how to tell him to use it
[14:00] <edistar_> hi, the graphical user and groups tool shows me different groups than are written in /etc/groups, is there any way to check from where the gui tool takes its group file?
[14:01] <arvind_khadri> edistar_, gksu users-admin
[14:01] <jrib> edistar_: it probably just recognizes certain groups as special and then has a tab with checkboxes for enabling those groups.  Like "admin" is "Allow user to be an administrator" or something similar.  You'd have to check the source
[14:01] <arvind_khadri> edistar_, run that on a terminal
[14:02] <versus> !de
[14:03] <killfile> hi, i'm looking for some help configuring a 3M microtouch touchscreen under Ubuntu 7.10
[14:03] <killfile> can anyone offer any advice, or point me in the direction of anyone who could help?
[14:04] <doojin> hello
[14:04] <doojin> I have xnote e300
[14:04] <doojin> and ubuntu 4.08 and 4.10 don't support e300 built-in keyboard
[14:04] <doojin> what happend?
[14:04] <killfile> what i've been able to locate via google hasn't worked
[14:04] <doojin> xnote e300 laptop
[14:04] <jrib> doojin: don't use enter to break up your thoughts as it makes it harder to follow what you are saying
[14:04] <lng> hi! how may i fix this error: 'Could not download all repository indexes', Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found, Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[14:04] <dns53> killfile i think drivers are avalable in xorg, you may need to google it
[14:04] <edistar_> arvind_khadri: I get a nice error: http://nopaste.org/p/azbusvSgab
[14:04] <killfile> dns53: xorg comes with drivers, but they're broken
[14:05] <jrib> lng: edgy is no longer supported.  You need to upgrade
[14:05] <arvind_khadri> lng, egdy isnt supported anymore
[14:05] <lng> jrib: well, how may i do it?
[14:05] <arvind_khadri> lng, sudo apt-get distro-upgrade
[14:06] <lng> arvind_khadri: tnx
[14:06] <Jafet> s/ro//
[14:06] <dns53> killfile you could try intrepid or go down a version to fusion
[14:06] <lng> arvind_khadri: does it upgrade kernel?
[14:06] <jrib> lng: at this point you would need to do 6.10 -> 7.04 -> 7.10 -> 8.04 to get the latest stable release.  It is probably a lot easier to just backup and install a fresh copy of 8.04.  What arvind_khadri said will not work
[14:07] <killfile> dns53: it's a general X/linux issue rather than ubuntu-specific
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> edistar_, well no idea...seems like you dont have permission
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> lng, jrib is correct...its better to do a fresh install ...
[14:07] <lng> jrib: how do i get it?
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> jrib, wasnt there a supported path from edgy to hardy?
[14:08] <killfile> dns53: we've tried 6.10, 7.04 and 7.10
[14:08] <arvind_khadri> !torrents | lng
[14:08] <edistar_> arvind_khadri: I'll investigate, just thought it might a known issue
[14:08] <jrib> arvind_khadri: there is, but it involves 3 upgrades.  It would be faster to just reinstall imo
[14:08] <sorsis> if i put flash videos in fullscreen i see a laggy video. why so? in windows i have no prblems.
[14:08] <Jafet> arvind_khadri, might destabilize stuff, with such a long upgrade chain...
[14:08] <killfile> dns53: along with fedora, redhat, suse, etc - same problem in all distros
[14:08] <dns53> killfile well you could compile your own xorg, they have released a new version today
[14:08] <arvind_khadri> Jafet, jrib, oh ...iirc i had read somewhere that you can directly from edgy to hardy
[14:09] <lng> arvind_khadri: how do i check which version i have?
[14:09] <jrib> arvind_khadri: no, that's dapper to hardy
[14:09] <DJones> !version | lng
[14:09] <arvind_khadri> lng, lsb_release -a
[14:09] <jrib> arvind_khadri: because they are both LTS releases
[14:09] <dns53> killfile the problem could possibly be in the hardware not the drivers
[14:09] <bullgard4> I am calling System > Administration > 'Synaptic Package Manager' and obtain: "Error when running /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root. Could not copy the X authorization file." How to get rid of this error message?
[14:09] <arvind_khadri> jrib, i always confuse between the versions.... sorry :S
[14:10] <lng> arvind_khadri:  i got hardy
[14:10] <lng> arvind_khadri:  Ubuntu 8.04.1
[14:10] <killfile> dns53: the hardware works fine in windows :)
[14:10] <Jafet> lng, as a CD?
[14:10] <arvind_khadri> lng, then what is that edgy repo doing in your sources.list?
[14:10] <sorsis> why fullscreen flash videos are laggy? do other ppl have same problems?
[14:10] <lng> Jafet: as current sys
[14:10] <jrib> lng: then you have an edgy sources.list... pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:11] <lng> arvind_khadri: dunno
[14:11] <killfile> dns53: the issue is rather that the drivers in X expect the position reported by the touchscreen to be relative to the resolution to the screen, and the touchscreen provides absolute co-ordinates
[14:11] <lng> jrib: http://pastebin.com/f23598506
[14:12] <jrib> lng: get rid of the last two lines and run 'sudo apt-get update'
[14:12] <lng> jrib: remove those two last lines?
[14:12] <lng> ))
[14:12] <No1_Gentoo_user> hi
[14:12] <dns53> killfile well i believe the new xorg has the multi pointer x changes which may have changed some of the touch screen stuff
[14:12] <jekyll> ciaooo
[14:12] <riverbed> hi all
[14:13] <jekyll> !addon
[14:13] <No1_Gentoo_user> hi
[14:13] <jrib> lng: yep.  You might want to grab the hardy line for winehq from their site
[14:13] <fr500> are msn servers broken or is it just me?
[14:13] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Could someone recommend a firewall other than firestarter for Ubuntu?
[14:13] <lng> jrib: winehq?
[14:13] <Nutzebahn> fr500: I can't connect to MSN either.
[14:14] <hullap> Nutzebahn, ucf
[14:14] <jrib> lng: winehq.org it's the wine site
[14:14] <hullap> err
[14:14] <hullap> ufw
[14:14] <lng> jrib: why?
[14:14] <ushimitsudoki> killfile: this is off-topic but did you look at: http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/ ?
[14:14] <jrib> lng: because you had it before.  It's up to you if you want it again
[14:15] <lng> jrib: i don't need that anymore. thanx!
[14:15] <Nutzebahn> Something with a GUI?
[14:15] <jrib> lng: k
[14:15] <jrib> Nutzebahn: be more specific?
[14:15] <dns53> ushimitsudoki killfile this has been merged upstream, and i think the mpx guy was writing some of the driers for it
[14:15] <Nutzebahn> I would like a firewall other than Firestarter.
[14:15] <ushimitsudoki> dns53: oh cool i didn't know that
[14:16] <Nutzebahn> ?
[14:16] <killfile> well, we're looking at the new X
[14:16] <hullap> Nutzebahn, bulldog
[14:16] <Jafet> Nutzebahn, ufw?
[14:16] <riverbed> i'm planning to switch from suse to ubuntu
[14:16] <hullap> Nutzebahn, iptables?
[14:16] <riverbed> had enough of this damn puse, so much bloat
[14:17] <riverbed> i hate it
[14:17] <No1_Gentoo_user> use gentoo
[14:17] <ksbalaji> how to form rules in ufw?
[14:17] <jrib> ksbalaji: man page has a decent intro with examples, try 'man ufw'
[14:17] <nnull> ive got a computer with free 3 partitions free, 1 990 meg, 2 990 meg, 3 3gig... can i use this for ubuntu?
[14:17] <Nutzebahn> Something with a GUI.
[14:17] <riverbed> lol no i am not that expert and i heard gentoo is like a lot of work
[14:17] <ksbalaji> jrib, thanks
[14:17] <jrib> Nutzebahn: ask everything on one line...
[14:17] <No1_Gentoo_user> riverbed: noo, u can compile it in half a day
[14:18] <ksbalaji> jrib, do we have ufw GUI?
[14:18] <riverbed> No1_Gentoo_user: compile? :O
[14:18] <riverbed> that is a scary word for me
[14:18] <nnull> jrib, it says allow tcp/port but what about if u want to change outbound traffic..
[14:18] <Jafet> nnull, depends on how fussy you are with the resulting condition of the filesystems, naturally.
[14:18] <inflex> hi, I've got an X800 GTO card (ATi) and X will constantly crash after a few minutes of use (esp if I'm running OpenOffice) but the mouse is still operational and I can still SSH into the box
[14:18] <jrib> ksbalaji: not that I know of.  ufw is just a (friendlier) frontend for iptables anyway
[14:18] <No1_Gentoo_user> riverbed: you noob?
[14:18] <riverbed> No1_Gentoo_user: yes
[14:18] <jrib> nnull: what?
[14:18] <ksbalaji> jrib, thanks and bye!
[14:19] <inflex> and now X is taking up 97.4% CPU
[14:19] <inflex> (Xorg)
[14:19] <riverbed> No1_Gentoo_user: is gentoo better than ubuntu?
[14:19] <jrib> No1_Gentoo_user: this channel is for ubuntu support, discuss the (dis)merits of gentoo in #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
[14:19] <dashavoo> I recompiled my kernel (the debian way) because I needed a patch, but I am not sure how to recompile linux-ubuntu-modules against it, can somebody point me in the right direction please?
[14:19] <olskolirc> how do I find that default white panel bar that comes with kde please?  what path is it in?
[14:19] <nnull> like alllow tcp/80 would open up the port for inbound port 80, what about opening/closing ports for outbound traffic... liek you can do in firestarter (or almost do, i just uninstalled it)
[14:19] <nnull> jrib, ^^
[14:19] <No1_Gentoo_user> riverbed: :-/
[14:20] <No1_Gentoo_user> jr:-\
[14:20] <No1_Gentoo_user> jrib: :-\
[14:20] <No1_Gentoo_user> jrib: dismerits?
[14:20] <nnull> ive got a computer with free 3 partitions free, 1 990 meg, 2 990 meg, 3 3gig... can i use this for ubuntu?
[14:20] <remoteCTR1> does actually anybody do the effort to test a package if it is even working beore that is put into the distribution??
[14:20] <jrib> No1_Gentoo_user: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[14:21] <Jafet> remoteCTR1, I suppose distributors make reasonable effort.
[14:21] <Jafet> remoteCTR1, I expect the main reason defective software ships is because the coders are lazy, not the testers.
[14:21] <remoteCTR1> Jafet:  in that case i wonder how that is possible that installing xen completely rendes the server unbootable due to TWO errors in scrpts
[14:21] <Nutzebahn> I want a replacement because Firestarter keeps loading on startup and I don't want it to.
[14:22] <Jafet> Nutzebahn, ... that is the only main problem you're having?
[14:22] <error404notfound> is there any software that can do what vmware workstation/server does and can play vmware vmx as well? (does VB run vmx as well? )
[14:22] <remoteCTR1> Jafet: actually it is even three if i count in that the network bridge is not being setup correctly
[14:22] <nnull> ive got a computer with free 3 partitions free, 1 990 meg, 2 990 meg, 3 3gig... can i use this for ubuntu?
[14:22] <Jafet> nnull, have you tried?
[14:22] <remoteCTR1> really incredible
[14:23] <nnull> im not gunna try install something if its gunna try copy and theres not enough space...
[14:23] <Jafet> remoteCTR1, software has sucked since 1990, deal with it.
[14:23] <Nutzebahn> Yes, Jafet.
[14:23] <nnull> just asking how much does ubuntu install?
[14:23] <Jafet> nnull, probably less than 2 GB for the desktop version.
[14:23] <Jafet> !size
[14:23] <remoteCTR1> Jafet: i wonder how it is possible to put a software into a distro that can under no circumstances work
[14:24] <nnull> Jafet, well the root partition is 3 gig.. ive got a gig for swap and a gig for a user partition.. you think this will be ok?
[14:24] <remoteCTR1> id say not software but qa sucks
[14:24] <DJones> !requirements | nnull
[14:24] <Jafet> Nutzebahn, well you just need to stop it from being started at boot then. It might be in your System > Prefs > Sessions, which makes things easy.
[14:24] <nnull> i actually have the xubuntu iso mmm
[14:24] <olskolirc> how do I find that default white panel bar that comes with kde please?  what path is it in?
[14:24] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: i have the CD in front of me for 8.04 and it says "at least 4GB of disk space available for installation". I bet you could squeeze it in much less, but there it is official-like
[14:25] <nnull> ushimitsudoki, :x
[14:26] <Xantor> Hey ! I need some help in turning of HDMI-soundcard in Ubutu or any other way to get my Realtek HD audio to work. It seems the "normal" soundcard aint in use. using a laptop asus m51ta - Realtek HD audio alc663
[14:26] <Jafet> remoteCTR1, well, it doesn't work where you are, but it might have been successfully tested on the packagers' machines.
[14:27] <remoteCTR1> Jafet: i seriously doubt that due to the nature of the nature of the errors in the scripts
[14:28] <Jafet> Software interact in mysterious ways.
[14:28] <Jafet> If tasked with writing artificial intelligence, Microsoft would write Skynet and Linux would turn out a Matrix.
[14:28] <Nutzebahn> I already did that, Jafet.
[14:29] <nnull> mmm this is bad, my computer is good enough but doesnt have enough space
[14:29] <Jafet> Nutzebahn, as in, firestarter is in the session start list, you unchecked it, and it's still starting regardless?
[14:29] <Jafet> nnull, obtain a larger hard disk?
[14:29] <nnull> Jafet, cant :x
[14:30] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: i bet you can squeeze it on there (or you could try the server install and then add packages) ... why not try it and see? it might make a good forum or blog post
[14:30] <kibibyte> how to install with apt-get localfile.deb ?
[14:30] <Nutzebahn> Yes.
[14:30] <Nutzebahn> I remove it from the list.
[14:30] <kibibyte> Ja wohl
[14:30] <arvind_khadri> kibibyte, use dpkg
[14:31] <kibibyte> arvind_khadri, but dpkg doesnt resolve dependicies
[14:31] <kibibyte> :
[14:31] <kibibyte> :/
[14:31] <Nutzebahn> Yes, Jafet.
[14:31] <bombshelter13> what's the stuff in /var/lib/dpkg/info?
[14:31] <javierg> Would anyone know what I can't click on VNC option in the drop down box for Terminal Server Client?
[14:31] <ushimitsudoki> kibibyte: can't you just click on it and the GUI package app open up? that works for me if i understand what you are trying
[14:31] <arvind_khadri> kibibyte, you will have to resolve them
[14:31] <ushimitsudoki> javierg: you have to install a vnc program first like tightvnc if i remember right
[14:32] <arvind_khadri> kibibyte, use gdebi to look up the dependencies
[14:32] <javierg> ushimitsudoki, Oh ok, I thought it came defaulted. Thanks.
[14:32] <m12> jrib: tried install both versions of java , used java-6-openjdk and java-6-sun with icedtea-gcjwebplugin and without and still cant load java applet
[14:32] <RickZilla> I'm downloading ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso, and trying to create an image of it to cd....I've done this about 4x now, and keep running into disk errors...is it common to have to attempt a download multiple times before you get it right?  I've even tried a different mirror each time...thanks in advance for your help
[14:32] <lapoisse> hi
[14:33] <nnull> ushimitsudoki, im thinking the install cannot be 4/8 gig as they proclaim as the iso is only 700 meg?
[14:33] <Jafet> nnull, http://apina.biz/6392
[14:33] <lapoisse> I have some problems with my graphic cards
[14:33] <Jafet> It also depends on what you install, of course.
[14:33] <DJones> RickZilla: What speed are you burning the image at, the normal recommendation is to burn slowly at 4x as it reduces the chance of errors, you can also check the md5sum before you burn to make sure the image isn't corrupt first
[14:34] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: compression? I'm only reading the CD text - plus you will be downloading stuff too. Still, I would try it with 3G
[14:34] <RickZilla> wait...now I think it's working...
[14:34] <Xantor> Hey ! I need some help in turning of HDMI-soundcard in Ubutu or any other way to get my Realtek HD audio to work. It seems the "normal" soundcard aint in use. using a laptop asus m51ta - Realtek HD audio alc663
[14:34] <m12> what is problem with java applets in firefox ? i cant load it with openjdk and with sun java, any tips how to fix this ?
[14:34] <RickZilla> DJones:  max speed, I'll try slower next time...did the md5sum and found lots of errors the first few times
[14:34] <Jafet> Nutzebahn, then you'll have to look for it in the startup scripts themselves, or wherever there are...
[14:35] <ushimitsudoki> Xantor: do you mean you have two sound cards and you want to turn off one (like the built in one on the mobo)?
[14:35] <lapoisse> I can t install the Nvidia proprietary drivers
[14:35] <DJones> RickZilla: When you get an iso without md5 errors, burn at a slow speed, that should solve the problem
[14:35] <Xantor> I have the HDMI soundcard and the normal so to say
[14:35] <nnull> ushimitsudoki, do you think i should merge the swap with the 3gig part and run no swap?
[14:35] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: how much RAM do you have there?
[14:35] <RickZilla> DJones, thanks for the advice...looks like I may actually have a working copy of Ubuntu now!
[14:35] <nnull> 512ddr1
[14:35] <ushimitsudoki> Is it a laptop or desktop?
[14:35] <nnull> desktop
[14:35] <Xantor> Laptop Asus
[14:35] <DJones> RickZilla: Good look with the install
[14:36] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: then 512 as a swap will be enough
[14:36] <nnull> ahh, someone told me to use double your ram as swap, why was that do you think?
[14:36] <bizkut_> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 31326 package `alsa-utils':
[14:36] <bizkut_>  `Depends' field, invalid package name `module/init-tools': character `/' not allowed (only letters, digits and characters `-+._')
[14:36] <bizkut_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[14:36] <Jafet> nnull, those are rules of thumb.
[14:36] <nnull> im currently not even using swap atm
[14:37] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: i don't know why, double the ram seems generous to me, but that's just my opinion
[14:37] <nnull> so do i need a user partition?
[14:37] <RickZilla> Woo hoo!  I'm on my way to being a Ubuntu user!
[14:37] <snakel_> hi .. i've a server running hardy with xen and as soon as some I/O is generated (e.g. dd) or the system has a bit of load, dmesg shows "BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00100100"
[14:37] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: i like to have /home on a separate partition, but it is not required
[14:38] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: since you have limited size, you might want to forgo that separation ... just a thought
[14:38] <nnull> ushimitsudoki, any particular reason you prefer that mate?
[14:38] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: because I have huge ass harddrives and can roll like that :)
[14:38] <snakel_> I found a few bug reports which say to have a look at the newer 2.6.27 kernel of intrepid, but I can not find a xen-version of this kernel.
[14:38] <Xantor> Must one go turn of soundcards and such the texty way or is there a graphic way to do it ? =P
[14:39] <nnull> this pc is setup like that also, but im i dont even know why i do it heh
[14:39] <nnull> ushimitsudoki, ^
[14:39] <remoteCTR1> !nfs
[14:39] <ushimitsudoki> Xantor: you probably need to figure out what driver is loading for the built in card, remove it and the blacklist it. that is what i did because i use an external sound card
[14:40] <bizkut_> hai
[14:41] <Xantor> Ahh ok =P Thing is tho.. ive got not idea of how to do it.. not by typing could prolly do it if i were able to click around
[14:41] <dashavoo> How do I compile linux-ubuntu-modules against my kernel?
[14:42] <HymnToLife> why do you want to ?
[14:42] <HymnToLife> sounds like a waste of space to me, surely you don't need _all_ of them
[14:42] <Ockonal> hi
[14:43] <Ockonal> Can u help me with compiz? When i resize the windows my comp is slowly
[14:43] <ushimitsudoki> Xantor: no clicking around for this i'm afraid. Step one is to see what modules are loaded. Try "cat /proc/asound/modules" for that, and see if you can not determine which one is for the sound card you want to disable. Step two is to blacklist that driver in "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist". Step 3 is edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to load the proper driver. Step 3 may not be necessary. That's the basic outline i would say
[14:43] <jrib> !away > _UsUrPeR_
[14:44] <Xantor> Cool thx
[14:44] <Xantor> ill try to get it to work .. =)
[14:44] <matteo_> Hi all!!! With 248 MB of ram whic version of ubuntu is good? thx alot
[14:44] <jrib> matteo_: I'd go with xubuntu
[14:45] <dashavoo> HymnToLife, was that question in response to me? If so because I recompiled my kernel (I needed a patch) but now I don't have some of the modules I need because they are usually contained in that package.
[14:45] <HymnToLife> dashavoo: find out the module you need and compile it then ;) no need to compile all of them
[14:47] <dashavoo> HymnToLife, how should I compile them then? Using module-assistant?
[14:47] <HymnToLife> maybe
[14:47] <HymnToLife> m-a is more of a hassle than not; imo
[14:48] <HymnToLife> just grab the source, make, make install
[14:49] <lapoisse> #nvidia
[14:49] <HymnToLife> fail
[14:49] <HymnToLife> very wel-chosen nick; too
[14:49] <HymnToLife> well*
[14:50] <bullgard4> I am calling System > Administration > 'Synaptic Package Manager' and obtain: "Error when running /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root. Could not copy the X authorization file." How to get rid of this error message?
[14:52] <_UsUrPeR_> jrib: wat
[14:52] <IntangibleLiquid> help, I installed smbsf to get my files from my sister's xp box. I changed the Domain to MSHOME in Network and now get-apt says :unable to resolve host .... What should I do?
[14:52] <HymnToLife> _UsUrPeR_: read the pm from ubottu
[14:53] <HymnToLife> IntangibleLiquid: you probably messed up your DNS configuration somewhere along the way
[14:53] <_UsUrPeR_> I don't understand. Is there a giant message that appears that I don't see pertaining to changing usernames?
[14:53] <HymnToLife> !away
[14:53] <HymnToLife> there
[14:54] <IntangibleLiquid> HymnToLife: 1. I installed smbfs, 2. I changed the Domain name to MSHOME. That's all. Now what should I do to fix it?
[14:54] <Ockonal> Hi, can you tell me, how to get sound in Pidgin?
[14:54] <_UsUrPeR_> huh
[14:55] <jrib> _UsUrPeR_: don't change your name to userper_away when you are away, just use   /away <reason>   to indicate you are away
[14:55] <HymnToLife> IntangibleLiquid: go back to the network settings and fix your DNS servers
[14:55] <HymnToLife> you shouldn't change the domain name, by the way, this is not what you want
[14:55] <Ad0> is there some service in ubuntu that respawns processes with dirty exits ?
[14:56] <IntangibleLiquid> HymnToLife: so is it safe for me to delete the domain, as it was blank last time. the current DNS server is the gateway's address. How do I fix the DNS server?
[14:57] <HymnToLife> IntangibleLiquid: if it's your gateway address, then it's probably good
[14:57] <HymnToLife> hmm, do you also get an "unresolvable host" when trying to ping a website?
[14:59] <IntangibleLiquid> HymnToLife: no, I'm still able to access websites and irc. apt-get is the only one that doesn't work so far
[14:59] <Tower_Joo> hello,all
[15:00] <Ockonal> Tower_Joo: hi
[15:00] <HymnToLife> IntangibleLiquid: then it's most likely a problem with the mirror you're using
[15:01] <Tower_Joo> This is my first time to use irc.
[15:01] <IntangibleLiquid> HymnToLife: the thing is, I was able to install smbfs before I changed the domain. Weird :(
[15:01] <Ockonal> Tower_Joo: ^_^
[15:01] <IntangibleLiquid> Tower_Joo: welcome on board
[15:01] <amenado> IntangibleLiquid-> what is the gateway addresss?
[15:01] <HymnToLife> amenado: how does that matter?
[15:01] <Tower_Joo> So can anyone tell me about this channel?
[15:02] <HymnToLife> !offtopic
[15:02] <IntangibleLiquid> amenado: 192.168.1.1
[15:02] <amenado> HymnToLife-> it matters because if it does not get fed with the real dns addresss
[15:02] <IntangibleLiquid> Tower_Joo: I guess you can read the topic
[15:02] <Tower_Joo> thanks
[15:02] <bad_image> ubuntu sux
[15:02] <Ad0> is there a way to disable session manager?
[15:02] <Ockonal> Tower_Joo: Here you can find many answers on your questions :)
[15:03] <amenado> IntangibleLiquid-> change that to your ISP's real dns server..
[15:03] <Ockonal> bad_image: why...?
[15:03] <bad_image> ubuntu is the biggest shit I've ever heard about. It's for complete losers and utter dummies
[15:03] <HymnToLife> jrib
[15:03] <HymnToLife> we ,eedz ur powerz
[15:03] <HymnToLife> needz*
[15:03] <jrib> bad_image: keep your comments related to ubuntu support here
[15:03] <Tower_Joo> yeah.thanks a lot.
[15:03] <bad_image> Ockonal, Because it's even worse than Windows
[15:03] <Ad0> :)
[15:03] <Ockonal> bad_image: So windows...
[15:04] <jrib> Ockonal: don't egg him on please
[15:04] <bad_image> I'm helping to Octonal. My support care is aimed to let him know why he should switch to GNU/Linux distribution, intended to be used by smart people.
[15:05] <Ockonal> jrib: ;)
[15:05] <phece> right now i'm dual booting hardy and xp. i keep all of my files on the xp partition, but i was thinking of switching to ubuntu only
[15:05] <jrib> bad_image, Ockonal: in #ubuntu-offtopic you may discuss the merits of other distros vs ubuntu
[15:05] <phece> would that speed things up at all if it doesn't have to read from another partition? or would it have no effect?
[15:05] <Ockonal> I think, that all distributions of linux good
[15:05] <phece> also, is it easy to do? to expand a partition?
[15:05] <Ockonal> jrib: sorry
[15:05] <bad_image> You can do more, with Gentoo GNU/Linux. Due to increased performance, it's also possible to play 3d fps games, such as Quake4 SMOOTHLY
[15:05] <IntangibleLiquid> amenado: changed it. Still get the same error mess
[15:06] <Ockonal> bad_image: to private?
[15:07] <IntangibleLiquid> This is a fresh and complete reinstall. I wondered how i could mess it up in less than 3 minutes. :(
[15:07] <ben34> hi is there a way i can wireless sync my phones pictures with bluetooth automatically, it sees it as obex://[00:1F:45:F6:F3:30]/Phone%20memory/Camera%20album/100MSDCF
[15:08] <bad_image> Ockonal, in case you daily suffer from some annoying features, for example in Firefox, Gentoo GNU/Linux lets you to choose the USE flags, and thus it compiles new binary based on your requirements.
[15:08] <bad_image> Ockonal, join #gentoo
[15:08] <bert1> hi
[15:08] <IntangibleLiquid> Also, I'm able to get files from the Inspiron 1420 via my router dsl-2640t
[15:09] <bert1> does any know if you can close xchat to the notification area??? (so it doesnt show in the task bar, but its still running with an icon in the systray)
[15:09] <bert1> ?
[15:09] <amenado> IntangibleLiquid-> what error mess? what is the exact error?
[15:10] <IntangibleLiquid> amenado: unable to resolve host ...
[15:10] <amenado> IntangibleLiquid-> what does your /etc/hosts looks like? paste in pastebin
[15:10] <ben34> bert1, press x
[15:10] <deltaray> Is there a package for the dos2unix command?  I can't find dos2unix in the normal apt repositories.
[15:10] <jrib> bert1: right click on the xchat icon in the notification area, and press "hide"
[15:10] <IntangibleLiquid> amenado: miraculous! I deleted the domain, changed the host to the previous one. It's back now. It's working!
[15:10] <ben34> then minimize to system tray
[15:10] <jrib> deltaray: tofrodos
[15:11] <amenado> IntangibleLiquid-> that can do it
[15:11] <deltaray> jrib, That's an intuitive name.
[15:11] <IntangibleLiquid> amenado: cool, thanks
[15:11] <ben34> bert1, you could not figure that out?
[15:11] <amenado> IntangibleLiquid-> you're welcome
[15:11] <rconan> the ubuntu livecd doesn't recognise the drive on my new motherboard... the controller is the Intel ICH10
[15:11] <IntangibleLiquid> I'm heading for Barcamp Phom Penh next week, anyone going there by chance?
[15:11] <jrib> deltaray: heh, apt-cache search dos2unix  would return it though
[15:12] <jrib> IntangibleLiquid: we like to keep this channel dedicated to ubuntu support only since it is so busy.  Mind moving your discussion over to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[15:12] <IntangibleLiquid> ok :)
[15:13] <bert1> thanks jrib, clicking the X just closes the application completely... the "hide" function is what i was looking... thanks
[15:13] <ben34> anyone know how to sync obex device
[15:14] <bert1> ben34, that doesnt work, it closes xchat down
[15:14] <ben34> oh it does for me
[15:14] <jrib> bert1: by default it asks, but there is a checkbox to not ask anymore.  You can probably make it ask again in preferences
[15:15] <bert1> ok jrib, thanks for your help dude =)
[15:15] <ben34> bert1, http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotquitxchatou2.png
[15:15] <deltaray> jrib, thanks, didn't know about that command.
[15:16] <jrib> !apt > deltaray
[15:18] <Cosmo-san> guys, is there a commandline term that will display System Resources or System Performance in Ubuntu?  I know this sounds stupid, but supposedly we are supposed to display this info in a C++ program...
[15:18] <ketk_> anybody knows what's the compiz plugin that minimize all the windows to show desktop when the mouse moves to a corner?
[15:18] <amenado> Cosmo-san-> look around the /proc  where most of these stuff is stored
[15:19] <jrib> Cosmo-san: see how 'ps' and 'top' work
[15:19] <jrib> !source > Cosmo-san
[15:19] <Cosmo-san> is proc the temporary folder in memory?
[15:20] <amenado> Cosmo-san-> its a psuedo file system yes
[15:21] <HymnToLife> amenado: pseudo != temporary
[15:22] <HymnToLife> files in a temporary filesystem are stored in RAM, files in a pseudo file system are not stored anywhere
[15:22] <HymnToLife> they are dynamically generated by the kernel when you try to access them
[15:23] <amenado> they have to be stored somewhere, and most likely in ram, so psuedo file system do get stored but may be temporarily
[15:24] <HymnToLife> amenado: no, they are not stored, they don't even exist
[15:24] <Cosmo-san> how do I know what header file to include for these commands?  There usually isn't a simple header file I can see in the man pages
[15:24] <sooki> okay, so i installed windows to a second drive and it of course wiped the mbr and i've been trying to restore grub so i can get a dual boot menu, but the tutorials say to do the sudo grub find whatever method
[15:24] <sooki> and when i do that, windows will boot saying there was a bad shut down or something
[15:24] <g33k_gir1> is there a programme I can use to batch process a bunch of photos. I need to resize them from, like super high res 5 bazillion pixels wide, to something more webfriendly. and theres tons of them. and I need to do it fast
[15:24] <sooki> i don't get a grub menu
[15:25] <soundray> sooki: are you following the RecoveringUbuntu... instructions?
[15:25] <soundray> !grub | sooki
[15:25] <HymnToLife> or rather, they exist but they have no "physical" content
[15:26] <olskolirc> how do I find that default white panel bar that comes with kde please?  what path is it in?
[15:26] <sooki> that's the method i used
[15:26] <sooki> but i don't get a menu, it just boots straight to windows
[15:27] <sooki> and windows knows something's been messed with so it goes to the "do you want to boot in safe mode?" screen
[15:27] <IntangibleLiquid> what's the command to unload a module? opposite of modprobe
[15:27] <Pici> IntangibleLiquid: rmmod
[15:27] <dbrewer_rjr> good morning chatterheads. I need to install java on my hardy lamps server. All the reading I am doing online says it is broken, needs to be patched, do this, do that. I am completely confused. What is the correct path as of today?
[15:28] <mgolisch> java is broken?
[15:28] <soundray> sooki: you're trying to boot the live CD, but it boots into Windows?
[15:28] <mgolisch> it works great on my hardy desktop
[15:28] <dbrewer_rjr> it's been fixed?
[15:28] <soundray> !java | dbrewer_rjr
[15:29] <amenado> dbrewer_rjr-> which java ?
[15:29] <dbrewer_rjr> java 6
[15:29] <bullgard4> I am calling System > Administration > 'Synaptic Package Manager' and obtain: "Error when running /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root. Could not copy the X authorization file." How to get rid of this error message?
[15:29] <IntangibleLiquid> I guess I should give up with ndiswrapper already :(
[15:29] <amenado> dbrewer_rjr-> go ahead and install the sun java 6 its working
[15:30] <soundray> bullgard4: have you done anything to your /tmp directory setup?
[15:30] <sooki> i have 2 drives, the original is a ubuntu install, i added my old second drive which is an ntfs that i installed windows to, i'm trying to get my grub back so i can choose which i want to boot into
[15:30] <dbrewer_rjr> install from sun or is there an apt-get install?
[15:30] <bullgard4> soundray: No.
[15:30] <soundray> sooki: the instructions require that you boot the live CD. Have you tried that?
[15:30] <sooki> i'm currently stuck on a live cd cause the windows is broken
[15:30] <dbrewer_rjr> amenado:install from sun or is there an apt-get install?
[15:31] <sooki> i only tried the quick start method, i'm going to try the second
[15:31] <marcules> "Mahlzeit" :p
[15:31] <soundray> sooki: hold on...
[15:31] <netsurf3> test
[15:31] <ubuntu_> test
[15:31] <soundray> sooki: what happens when you run the find command?
[15:31] <soundray> netsurf3, ubuntu_: failed
[15:31] <sooki> it returns hd(0,0) or whatever the format was
[15:32] <sooki> but it was 0,0 i can tell you
[15:32] <soundray> bullgard4: what do you get from a "ls -l ~/.Xauthority"
[15:32] <solexious> [Q] how can I unmerge mailx and emerge nails? All google gives me is gentu not ubuntu
[15:33] <soundray> sooki: so, did you then enter "root (hd0,0)" as the instructions suggest?
[15:33] <amenado> dbrewer_rjr-> for me, i'd go directly to sun but if you dont know what to do, use the repository..per whats pasted to you
[15:33] <sooki> yep, i followed the quick way perfectly
[15:33] <soundray> sooki: and did you get an error message?
[15:34] <bullgard4> soundray: I obtain -rw------- 1 root root 0 2008-09-07 17:54 /home/detlef/.Xauthority
[15:34] <sooki> nope, it said ok
[15:34] <IntangibleLiquid> is it possible to test OO 3.0 in Hardy now?
[15:34] <dbrewer_rjr> amenado: i just looked at the posted link, it gives me the choice of open-jdk or sun. is the sloppy_locks thingy still necessary with either?
[15:34] <Vinconzo> hi
[15:35] <soundray> bullgard4: do a 'sudo chown detlef:detlef ~/.Xauthority'   -- that should fix it.
[15:35] <amenado> dbrewer_rjr-> id go for sun
[15:35] <soundray> bullgard4: and please, in the future, use 'gksudo' rather than 'sudo' to run graphical programs.
[15:35] <dbrewer_rjr> amenado: did you have a problem with libmawt.so?
[15:36] <Vinconzo> i remember there was a game in Windows called Wallstreet Tycoon, simulating the stock-market, where you could buy and sell stockings. is there anything like that in linux?
[15:36] <solstralen> solexious> You're using apt-get and not emerge in ubuntu... right?
[15:36] <amenado> dbrewer_rjr-> i dont recall, but the tutorial tips i think mentioned about modifying that, but then i dont recall if it was for fedora or for ubuntu
[15:36] <soundray> sooki: is it possible that the Windows disk somehow becomes the first BIOS disk, so you're actually booting from what you thought is the second disk?
[15:36] <dirkgently> x
[15:36] <sooki> i'm trying the "overwriting the windows bootloader" method, will that get me to what i need?
[15:36] <bullgard4> soundray: Please define "graphical programs".
[15:36] <soundray> bullgard4: those that create an X window, rather than running inside the terminal.
[15:37] <sooki> i was just thinking that, actually, how can i check the boot order?
[15:37] <dbrewer_rjr> amenado: thanks
[15:37] <bullgard4> soundray: Thank you.
[15:37] <sooki> maybe the second older drive is set to master, would that effect it?
[15:37] <soundray> !gksu | bullgard4
[15:37] <amenado> dbrewer_rjr-> you're welcome
[15:37] <linkinxp> hello how can i play safe with changing modules? like iwl3945 to ipwraw???? is there any tool??
[15:38] <solexious> solstralen, correct
[15:38] <RediXe>  Radeon X1300 Pro (Single-Head, Y split) trying to get dual-monitor working but struggling. Anyone good in this area have any suggestions? Googled all night and found some guide's but nothing seemed to work. Using Ubuntu Hardy.
[15:38] <solstralen> sudo apt-get install mailx
[15:38] <solstralen> ?
[15:39] <solexious> solstralen, aaa, i must have missunder stood. nails is no more and has been added into mailx. I thought unmerge and emerge were ways of beinging just nails out of mailx
[15:40] <mauro> hi
[15:40] <solexious> solstralen, i.e. to make a standalone of nails
[15:40] <solstralen> emerge is specific to gentoo.. the package manager in ubuntu is synaptic or apt-get
[15:41] <solexious> ok, i get it. Shame, thought i had found a way then
[15:41] <solstralen> great
[15:41] <linkinxp> hello how can i play safe with changing modules? like iwl3945 to ipwraw???? is there any tool??
[15:42] <Pici> linkinxp: What do you mean by safe?
[15:42] <sooki> okay, i'm going to reboot and see if it worked, if it didn't then there's probably something wrong with the order of the drives
[15:42] <RediXe> !X1300
[15:43] <RediXe> !ait
[15:43] <RediXe> !ati
[15:43] <sooki> or master/slave problem
[15:43] <soundray> sooki: sry
[15:43] <KDB9000> Does anyone know how I can remove the link to Network Servers from the places toolbar?
[15:43] <linkinxp> Pici, yea like mmm to have injection in ubuntu i have to change the module of the WIFI to iwpraw , can i use any tool for that?? GUI??
[15:43] <Pici> linkinxp: no, you'd have to use rmmod and modprobe.
[15:43] <lapoisse> Hi, does this channel could response to a problem with modprobe?
[15:43] <sooki> don't be, thanks for the help, i may or may not be back :P
[15:43] <linkinxp> Pici, will rmmod erase it or disable it?
[15:43] <soundray> sooki: do make sure that the jumpers are set correctly. If the second drive isn't set to slave, that may well be causing your trouble.
[15:43] <Pici> linkinxp: disable.
[15:43] <sooki> okay, thank you
[15:44] <Pici> linkinxp: see the manpages for each for more info
[15:44] <linkinxp> Pici, thanks :)
[15:44] <Rindae> how get sound drivers?
[15:45] <soundray> !sound > Rindae
[15:46] <g33k_gir1> wow! phatch is amazing for batch processing photos!
[15:46] <linkinxp> g33k_gir1, indeed!
[15:46] <linkinxp> who is using Intrepid here?
[15:47] <IdleOne> linkinxp: #ubuntu+1
[15:47] <qzio> anyone knows if its possible to use gnome-do or something like that in awesome ?
[15:47] <mrwhippy> hey all,
[15:47] <ketk_> linkinxp, i do
[15:48] <Alim> Салам всем
[15:48] <RediXe>  Radeon X1300 Pro (Single-Head, Y split) trying to get dual-monitor working but struggling. Anyone good in this area have any suggestions? Googled all night and found some guide's but nothing seemed to work. Using Ubuntu Hardy.
[15:48] <mrwhippy> anyone help me out, ive installed vmware server on my ubuntu 8.04 server, and realised i put the wrong location for where the virtual machines are stored can i change this or do i have to run the config again
[15:48] <linkinxp> ketk_, how is it running?
[15:48] <linkinxp> ketk_, faster? . buggy?
[15:49] <Alim> Че тут происходит?
[15:49] <IdleOne> !ru
[15:49] <Alim> Че тут происходит?
[15:50] <Alim> Спс
[15:50] <DJones> !english | Alim
[15:52] <interflop> My laptop can go into Suspend just fine but when I try Waking it from Suspend, it will only properly Wake sometimes.  Sometimes my screen will remain black, and sometimes I will get my login prompt but my mouse and keyboard don't work.  What is wrong with my system?  It has an ATI chipset.
[15:52] <brolly81> any experts with ubuntu or somebody that knows how to use the prog
[15:52] <brolly81> '?
[15:52] <soundray> !anyone | brolly81
[15:52] <Alim> Дау фщтха?
[15:52] <soundray> !en | Alim
[15:53] <soundray> ubottu, no, en =~ s/english/English/
[15:53] <RediXe>  Radeon X1300 Pro (Single-Head, Y split) trying to get dual-monitor working but struggling. Anyone good in this area have any suggestions? Googled all night and found some guide's but nothing seemed to work. Using Ubuntu Hardy.
[15:54] <DJones> soundray: Thats been tried for Alim, which country is "gecos JA" doing a whois, Japan?
[15:54] <danielbw> does anyone else experience trouble with their keyboard keys while using vmware
[15:54] <TXX> Hey
[15:54] <danielbw> it seems like i can't use any modifier keys now and it happens a lot
[15:54] <interflop> My laptop can go into Suspend just fine but when I try Waking it from Suspend, it will only properly Wake sometimes.  Sometimes my screen will remain black, and sometimes I will get my login prompt but my mouse and keyboard don't work.  What is wrong with my system?  It has an ATI chipset.
[15:54] <danielbw> i have to kill x in order for it my keys to work correctly again.
[15:55] <TXX> Anybody on #debian ?
[15:55] <Pici> TXX: Dunno, this is #ubuntu , try asking in #debian
[15:55] <soundray> DJones: Alim does not appear to be speaking Japanese, though
[15:55] <TXX> Pici that is the problem
[15:55] <TXX> i am banned
[15:55] <TXX> dunno why : S
[15:57] <jrib> TXX: try #debian-offtopic to see what you need/can do
[15:57] <TXX> thanks
[15:58] <badserii> ﻿Hi. Please tell me if there is an application to prompt for ssh login and password for graphical programs. Thank you in advance
[15:59] <javierg> What wold people suggest would be a really good remote terminal program? NXmachine?
[15:59] <Tophat> need help setting up a vpn and firewall from scratch. any suggestions as for my best way to go about doing this?
[15:59] <soundray> badserii: 'ssh -X user@remotehost xlogo' should work just fine -- or is that not what you mean?
[16:00] <danielbw> yay
[16:00] <danielbw> I fixed it!
[16:00] <danielbw> running setxkbmap fixes the problem
[16:01] <Glady> XAUTHORITY
[16:01] <badserii> soundray: i'm using tortoisehg - a graphical interface for mercurial cvs system
[16:02] <Niek> Hi
[16:02] <badserii> soundray: and can't connect through ssh because there is a missing utility, for login.
[16:02] <kasim> anyone install jeos from a usbdisk?????????
[16:02] <Niek> is there an app in the repos (or not in the repos) that can convert a .sql file to a nice visual Database layout ? so that I can visually with "graphics" can see the database ?
[16:03] <sooki> okay, does the physical location on the ribbon determine first or second drives?
[16:03] <gabriele> salve
[16:03] <soundray> badserii: I've not used that, but perhaps it will help to set up key-based authentication
[16:03] <sooki> or should that matter?
[16:04] <soundray> sooki: no
[16:04] <gabriele> Hi, I have a issue with my acer aspire 5930
[16:04] <sooki> okay, damnit
[16:04] <soundray> sooki: the jumpers determine that. One should be set to master, one to slave. If both are set to the same, you'll have a race condition
[16:04] <sooki> cause the linux drive doesn't have a jumper at all, and i don't know what kind it is to look up jumper settings
[16:04] <badserii> soundray: thank you for your answer
[16:05] <gabriele> soundray
[16:05] <gabriele> can you help me?
[16:05] <sooki> and the second, all the diagrams on it for jumpers show it with 2-3 jumpers, i only have one
[16:05] <gabriele> i have a problem with the wireless of my acer aspire 5930
[16:05] <sooki> and i none of them give a clear "master" "slave" diagram
[16:06] <gabriele> can anybody help me?
[16:07] <gabriele>  i have a problem with the wireless of my acer aspire 5930
[16:07] <gabriele> can anybody help me?
[16:07] <bobbob1016> Is there any where in my logs I can find my home's IP, I'm not home now, so I can't check it locally.
[16:07] <kiki_> ...
[16:08] <gabriele> nobody? :(
[16:08] <kiki_> Nope
[16:08] <bobbob1016> gabriele, Patience...
[16:08] <weird55> can i run mac software on ubuntu?
[16:09] <bobbob1016> gabriele, Not everyone here is 100% focused on this specific channel or anything.
[16:09] <linkinxp> weird55, what for?
[16:09] <linkinxp> ubuntu has a lot of alternatives
[16:09] <weird55> vmware
[16:09] <gabriele> i suggest vmware
[16:10] <danielbw> ubuntu hosting a mac guest on vmware?
[16:10] <weird55> a friend of my, can buy vmware for mac, for a low price
[16:10] <bobbob1016> I'd think it might be possible to run mac software, but not by any means any form of anything probably probably...
[16:10] <bobbob1016> weird55, Get the free VMware from their site, vmware player
[16:11] <gabriele> i m sure there is a lot of alternative open source of mac's application
[16:11] <weird55> i can`t vmwareplayer has no support for 3d
[16:11] <Gnea> weird55: it doesn't?
[16:11] <debCarlos> weird55: there are other virtualization programs, like Virtualbox...
[16:12] <snitko> what could be the reason for a service not to start at boot time, when it starts just fine manually with 'service name start' and has all appropriate symlinks in rcN.d dirs?
[16:12] <weird55> virtualbox has no support for 3d
[16:12] <Gnea> snitko: could be something in /etc/default/ telling it not to
[16:12] <amenado> snitko-> lets say its dependent on others before it can start itself
[16:12] <weird55> 3d support is a must
[16:13] <Gnea> weird55: uhm, 3d works just fine in vmware, not sure about vbox.
[16:13] <bobbob1016> weird55, Why?  Isn't 3D support buggy still?
[16:13] <debCarlos> weird55: oh, ok...
[16:13] <danielbw> yeah vmware has hardware acceleration too
[16:13] <UnionPivo> hi
[16:13] <amenado> weird55-> can you imagine if your base system does not have 3D and now by just running a virtual os you suddenly have a 3D? seems impossible
[16:13] <bobbob1016> Gnea, He was saying it doesn't work in vbox, but does in vmware
[16:13] <snitko> Gnea: what could it be in /etc/default, I'm just not sure. I've just added it, it's 'mongrel_cluster' service.
[16:13] <weird55> Gnea, only the pay version of vmware has support for 3d
[16:13] <Rindae> ubottu: thanks! :D
[16:13] <Gnea> bobbob1016: please read what i said.
[16:14] <weird55> but mac  software in ubuntu is not possible?
[16:14] <Gnea> snitko: usually there's a name there that directly relates to the name of the application in question.
[16:14] <bakarat> just out of curiosity, is there any priority to fixing easy multiple screen management?
[16:15] <Rioting_pacifist> is there a problem with sourceforge svn ssh atm ? im getting an invalid cert is this a mitm attack or just a temporary problem at sf?
[16:15] <bobbob1016> Gnea, You said "uhm, 3d works just fine in vmware, not sure about vbox."  meaning "Um, not sure if you know this but it works in vmware, not sure bout vbox..."
[16:15] <snitko> Gnea: and if there's no such file, the service doesn't start? I'm just not familiar with /etc/default and it's purposes
[16:15] <linkinxp> bobbob1016, lol
[16:15] <Gnea> weird55: is this something that you know by reading about it, or through actual experience? i've used 3d in vmplayer without any problems at all.
[16:15] <bobbob1016> Gnea, reading as* not meaning, I don't know what you meant
[16:16] <Gnea> bobbob1016: that's what i said, yes. i said that *I* am not sure if 3d works in vbox, since i haven't tried using it in vbox before.
[16:16] <weird55> Gnea, you used 3d in vmplayer or in het pay version of vmplayer?
[16:16] <Gnea> weird55: there is no pay version vmplayer.
[16:16] <linkinxp> any ubuntu blog that is updated everyday with tools news etc?????
[16:17] <Gnea> snitko: some programs have them there, some don't. try looking at some of the files there to get a better idea.
[16:17] <MrSoundless> hi all, I'm trying to set 'harddisk permissions' by command anyone got an idea how I should start? (using dsl not ubuntu.. @ livecd)
[16:17] <weird55> workstation has support, but you must buy it
[16:17] <bobbob1016> Gnea, This is off topic, but he said it doesn't work in vbox, so he knows, and I thought you were correcting him saying that 3D does work in vmware which he said works...
[16:18] <Pit_bull> Пред
[16:18] <bobbob1016> weird55, Have you tried qemu?  Not sure if it works with 3D though
[16:18] <Gnea> weird55: no you don't, you can use the 30-day trial key to do anything with workstation. the resulting files can then be used in vmplayer.
[16:18] <weird55> oke
[16:18] <MrSoundless> hi all, I'm trying to set 'harddisk permissions' by command anyone got an idea how I should start? (using dsl not ubuntu.. @ livecd)
[16:18] <weird55> thank you verry mutch and have vmplayer also support for 3d?
[16:19] <weird55> thank you verry mutch everyone
[16:19] <nomoa> hi, anyone can explain to me what is causing /proc permissions restrictions like this : http://pastebin.com/m14b89bf4 ?
[16:19] <Gnea> bobbob1016: i was correcting him from spreading disinformation.
[16:19] <Aquahallic> Hi all
[16:19] <mrwhippy> hi all, anyone help me with mounting lvm drives i have the drives setup and want one to be used to store my virtual machines in but i cant access it
[16:20] <bobbob1016> Gnea, Again, off topic, but he never was spreading disinformation, since he said "3D works in vmware"
[16:20] <Gnea> !lv | mrwhippy
[16:20] <Gnea> !lvm | mrwhippy
[16:20] <MrSoundless> hi all, I'm trying to set 'harddisk permissions' by command anyone got an idea how I should start? (using dsl not ubuntu.. @ livecd)
[16:20] <mrwhippy> gnea: i have no idea what that means
[16:20] <Gnea> mrwhippy: ignore the first one.
[16:20] <debCarlos> !repeat MrSoundless
[16:20] <weird55> Gnea, thank you verry mutch for the information
[16:20] <DoofsMcDiddles> hi
[16:20] <debCarlos> !repeta | MrSoundless
[16:20] <Aquahallic> I have ubuntu hardy installed and running emerald and compiz... I'm trying to install a package that says I have to have qt 4.3 or later installed... is this already installed with ubuntu hardy?
[16:20] <mrwhippy> gnea i still have no idea what that means
[16:20] <bobbob1016> !patience | MrSoundless
[16:20] <weird55> have a good day, and see you later
[16:20] <debCarlos> !repeat | MrSoundless
[16:21] <Tulimaq> ﻿MrSoundless: have you allredy mounted the partitions ?
[16:21] <mrwhippy> thanks ubottu
[16:21] <MrSoundless> srry guys I'm just in a hurry
[16:21] <debCarlos> Man, three tries to do a simple !repeat :P
[16:21] <Gnea> mrwhippy: why do you need to run LVM?
[16:21] <MrSoundless> I'm at work and trying to fix a harddisk/server problem
[16:22] <UbuntuWizkid> Hello All, Has anyone here tried to build Ubuntu server only to find that they can't get startx to work?
[16:22] <MrSoundless> and I got like ... 10 mins left
[16:22] <Gnea> !patience | MrSoundless
[16:22] <MrSoundless> I know just saying.. so you know why I did it >.<
[16:22] <Gnea> :)
[16:22] <mrwhippy> gnea: i put it in there to give me more control over the disks on the server also to try and figure it out, unfortunately i seem to be stuck at the first hurdle
[16:22] <pawel> does anyone of you have a cure for firefox and flash in ubuntu?
[16:23] <bakarat> just out of curiosity, is there any priority to fixing easy multiple screen management?
[16:23] <debCarlos> !flash
[16:23] <pawel> debCarlos: but it's so unstable
[16:23] <callbox47> can anyone point to info on how to boot 8.04 from CD?  I'm stuck in a loop at the logon / password prompt
[16:23] <pawel> debCarlos: it crashes every so often
[16:24] <pawel> debCarlos: both ff2 and ff3
[16:24] <soundray> UbuntuWizkid: server comes without X, so it's no surprise that startx doesn't work
[16:24] <brolly81> i have my pc hooked up to a 42in lcd, how do i resize so that my prog a within my screen. i tried the screen resolution and that didnt work.
[16:24] <pawel> and when it doesn't crash and goes grey occasionally :)
[16:24] <brolly81> ﻿i have my pc hooked up to a 42in lcd, how do i resize so that my prog a within my screen. i tried the screen resolution and that didnt work.
[16:25] <debCarlos> pawel: really ? i don't know, my ff have never crashed... But that's not much since my machine is one month old ...
[16:25] <GEORGIO_ARMANI> салам всем
[16:25] <soundray> brolly81: try to configure a display with the correct resolution through 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk'
[16:25] <UbuntuWizkid> Yeah Soundray I know I have installed core windows components and updates, but the best I can get the server to show is a blank desktop
[16:26] <UbuntuWizkid> Just wondered if there was a gotcha I wasn't aware of.
[16:26] <brolly81> ﻿i how do i get to ﻿gksudo displayconfig-gtk'
[16:26] <soundray> UbuntuWizkid: so startx does work
[16:26] <IdleOne> !ru | GEORGIO_ARMANI
[16:26] <Gnea> mrwhippy: check this out: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem
[16:26] <soundray> brolly81: call it from a terminal
[16:26] <soundray> !cli | brolly81
[16:27] <IdleOne> brolly81: alt-F2
[16:27] <StickyLap> Hi, if I wish to allow .htaccess files on a virtual host, where would be my best place to have a look to find out information?
[16:27] <soundray> brolly81: or just hit Alt-F2 and enter it in the run dialog
[16:27] <Glady> lol
[16:27] <soundray> UbuntuWizkid: if you want a complete desktop environment, install ubuntu-desktop  (but why, then, did you choose server?)
[16:28] <Glady> stickylap
[16:28] <StickyLap> Hi Glady
[16:28] <Guest75098> is there a command to convert a drawer of pnm files into djvu ?
[16:28] <UbuntuWizkid> I haven't used the server product before I am just playing with it to see if it could push some of our windows boxes out.
[16:28] <Glady> rolf
[16:28] <tjcrazy> Anyone help me with a MAC OS X iso in virtualbox/vmware?
[16:29] <UbuntuWizkid> always looking for ways to reduce our dependency on Microsoft
[16:29] <tjcrazy> Anyone?
[16:30] <Glady> I think this place is doomed
[16:30] <tjcrazy> [tjcrazy()] Anyone help me with a MAC OS X iso in virtualbox/vmware?
[16:30] <Glady> mac os x
[16:30] <tjcrazy> Lol so this is the main ubuntu support channel :p
[16:30] <Glady> u have to set xauthority
[16:30] <krauss> Woot. Down with Microsoft @ UbuntuWizid
[16:30] <tjcrazy> I want it for video editing :p
[16:30] <krauss> Woot. Down with Microsoft @ UbuntuWizikd
[16:30] <tjcrazy> xauthority? Whats that?
[16:31] <krauss> OMG....
[16:31] <krauss> Woot. Down with Microsoft @ UbuntuWizkid
[16:31] <krauss> There.
[16:31] <soundray> krauss: stop please
[16:31] <krauss> o_o
[16:31] <mypup> lol
[16:31] <krauss> I was only trying to get his name right, soundray.
[16:31] <Baryon> Is there tech help here?
[16:31] <mandark> hm
[16:31] <Glady> krauss is should be banned
[16:31] <Gnea> krauss: your method of doing so is clearly inappropriate.
[16:31] <Glady> you should
[16:32] <krauss> Soundray: Warning appreciated though.
[16:32] <Gnea> Baryon: there is if you ask a straight-forward and detailed question.
[16:32] <Baryon> Can I find tech help for Ubuntu Server here?
[16:32] <krauss> I've stopped, leave me alone please?
[16:32] <Gnea> !server | Baryon
[16:32] <Glady> lol
[16:32] <Flannel> Baryon: Yes
[16:32] <Glady> leave me alone
[16:32] <Glady> I m in a 200 persons' channel
[16:32] <Glady> BUT
[16:33] <Glady> leave me alone
[16:33] <Flannel> Glady: Please stop
[16:33] <Glady> sry sry
[16:33] <Gnea> !offtopic
[16:33] <tjcrazy> Anyone help me with a MAC OS X iso in virtualbox/vmware?
[16:33] <Baryon> I just performed "apt-get upgrade" on Gusty, then "apt-get update", following an "apt-get install ircd-hybrid", and the system stopped respondiong to my cygwin XWin client
[16:33] <soundray> Baryon: there is also a #ubuntu-server channel, but feel free to describe the problem here
[16:33] <Gnea> tjcrazy: tried #vmware? that's not really an ubuntu issue.
[16:34] <sbeh> hi, man hcid.conf says, that the user is asked for a pin, if you try to create a connection with 'hcitool cc', where and how is the user asked for that pin?
[16:34] <Ockonal> How can i get systemsettings( kde4 ) with root?
[16:34] <tjcrazy> Ok
[16:34] <Flannel> Baryon: You did those in the wrong order, by the way.  update then upgrade (or update than dist-upgrade)
[16:34] <Gnea> sbeh: it usually pops up a window when the connection is made
[16:34] <soundray> krauss: that wasn't so much a warning as a polite request. Your intention noted, though ;)
[16:34] <sbeh> Gnea: but the machine is headless
[16:34] <Baryon> SHould I remove ircd-hybrid, and re-install it then?
[16:35] <krauss> soundray: thanks =]
[16:35] <Flannel> Baryon: have you tried reconnecting with xwin?
[16:36] <Baryon> No. Cygwin still works with my other server which I have not "updraded"
[16:36] <Gnea> sbeh: have you tried adding the pin to one of the /etc/bluetooth/* files?
[16:37] <Ockonal> How can i get systemsettings( kde4 ) with root?
[16:37] <sbeh> Gnea: how do i do that?
[16:37] <Gnea> sbeh: should be a passkey option in the hci.conf file in the options{}
[16:37] <sbeh> Gnea: passkey is for incoming connections
[16:38] <Gnea> sbeh: i have no idea then. does the device not allow you to enter a pin on it?
[16:39] <Baryon> Has anyone performed today's "apt-get upgrade" with Gutsy Server (V7.10)
[16:39] <Glady> how come I do apt-get update and synaptic still says that I have updates to do?
[16:39] <Cosmo-san> hey guys, is there a way to have the file save in two places, specifically in gedit?
[16:39] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: save it 2 times
[16:39] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: or save it once and copy it
[16:39] <Gnea> Cosmo-san: yeah, make a symbolic link
[16:39] <Glady> ah
[16:39] <`Matir> Is anyone aware of a good cross-platform program for photo tagging/categorization?  I have a NAS with ~10k photos and users on both Windows and Linux and I'm trying to find something decent before deciding to develop something myself. :)
[16:39] <Glady> u read the same book than me
[16:40] <Rindae> How to enable backports?
[16:40] <soundray> Glady: because apt-get update only updates your repository list and doesn't install anything
[16:40] <IdleOne> !sources | Rindae
[16:40] <sbeh> Gnea: i connected remote with Xnest -query and entered the pin in the dialog you mentioned
[16:40] <soundray> Glady: run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to update your installed packages
[16:40] <sbeh> Gnea: thx
[16:40] <Cosmo-san> can I make a symbolic link for an entire folder?
[16:41] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: for the folder, or all it's contents
[16:41] <Cosmo-san> and if any file in the folder or subfolder is changed, it will update the symbolic link?
[16:41] <rolf_> Glady
[16:42] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: a sym link is for 1 file
[16:42] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: so you can't have a link for 1 file linking to multiple files
[16:42] <smacnay> Hi, I am using 8.04 as a server and seem to not be able to get fuse (on a client) to find the samba shares on the server.  Is this a problem with Hardy Heron right now?
[16:42] <`Matir> Cosmo-san, you CAN make a symlink that points to a folder.
[16:42] <ikonia> smacnay: no, it's not a problem
[16:42] <ikonia> `Matir: that won't do what he wants though
[16:43] <kdnewton> Cosmo-san: Think of a 'symlink' as a "shortcut" to a folder/file
[16:43] <jakechen> hello
[16:43] <`Matir> ikonia, perhaps I misinterpreted his request
[16:43] <ikonia> `Matir: it's not very clear at a first glance
[16:43] <Cosmo-san> ah, so it won't copy the contents, it'll just point to them?
[16:43] <kdnewton> That's right
[16:43] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: I wonder if rsync would meet your needs
[16:43] <Cosmo-san> I basically would like a backup of the file in a nother location
[16:43] <`Matir> Cosmo-san, why do you want to save a file in two places?
[16:43] <`Matir> Cosmo-san, ah
[16:43] <Cosmo-san> *another
[16:44] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: I sugggest rsync then
[16:44] <smacnay> ikonia, ok, thanks - not sure why I can't get this server to show up on my client machine, though.
[16:44] <`Matir> Cosmo-san, I agree with ikonia.  I use cron to routinely rsync my more important files to another server.
[16:44] <smacnay> Cosmo-san, also look at rdiff-backup.
[16:44] <laptop> Hello, I installed ubuntu 8.04, and when I was installing it I used option to use whole hard disk(120gb), now I have lots of space left, and I want to install Windows XP without deleting Ubuntu, is that possible?
[16:45] <Nutzebahn-Gentoo> Hello.
[16:46] <soundray> laptop: possible, but hairy. Have you got a bit of Linux experience?
[16:46] <rockosays> laptop: try using vmware server
[16:46] <Nutzebahn-Gentoo> How many packages does Ubuntu have?
[16:46] <Er_Fantasma> Hy guys!
[16:46] <ikonia> Nutzebahn-Gentoo: hundreds
[16:46] <eight> Nutzebahn-Gentoo: 7
[16:46] <Er_Fantasma> Long time no see
[16:46] <laptop> I have some linux experience, yes
[16:46] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: don't be silly
[16:46] <Er_Fantasma> :)
[16:47] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: it's not nice to miss-lead people
[16:47] <Shishire> laptop: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[16:47] <RickZilla> Trying out Ubuntu for the first time on cd...it's rocking my face off, can't wait to install it on some older machines I've got at home
[16:47] <Er_Fantasma> ikonia WHAT?
[16:47] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: sorry - not you
[16:47] <Er_Fantasma> I've just arrived
[16:47] <Er_Fantasma> k :)
[16:47] <Nutzebahn-Gentoo> 7?
[16:47] <ikonia> eight: it doesn't have 7 packages
[16:47] <Nutzebahn-Gentoo> How many in their repositories?
[16:47] <ikonia> Nutzebahn-Gentoo: ignore that - it has hundreds
[16:47] <Shishire> RickZilla: nice! I've found that Ubuntu even runs well on a 2000 celeron, so...
[16:47] <Nutzebahn-Gentoo> Ok.
[16:47] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: apologies, autocomplete went wrong
[16:48] <Er_Fantasma> Ubuntu runs on everything!
[16:48] <soundray> laptop: if it was my laptop, I would wipe it, install Windows, then install Ubuntu again. Having said that, you can install Windows and preserve your Ubuntu installation.
[16:48] <Er_Fantasma> Even a Z80!
[16:48] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: not quite
[16:48] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: it has ram and cpu limitations
[16:48] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: different platforms have difference support levels also
[16:48] <Er_Fantasma> Yeap! I know! It was a kind of saying
[16:49] <Cosmo-san> thanks guys, that helped a lot.  :D
[16:49] <soundray> laptop: what makes it difficult is that Windows expects to be on the first partition. So what you do is to resize your existing partition, create a new partition in the space won, duplicate the contents of the first into the second partition, format the first partition with fat32 and install Windows on it.
[16:50] <soundray> laptop: you will have to update /etc/fstab, /boot/grub/menu.lst and reinstall grub.
[16:50] <Shishire> soundray: fat32? talk about taking forever to load...
[16:50] <krauss> I had Grub on my Dell Optiplex
[16:50] <Er_Fantasma> Is there a good program that you can generate some GUI windows that you can then mix with the c++ code?
[16:50] <krauss> I had two HDD's though.
[16:51] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: gui programming is normally do through c++ tool kits
[16:51] <Er_Fantasma> something like the crap Vision from microsoft
[16:51] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: there is no such product as "crap vision" if you can't be factual and respectful to products - don't talk about them
[16:51] <Er_Fantasma> so... how's functioning?
[16:51] <Er_Fantasma> got to join #c++ ?
[16:51] <soundray> Shishire: yeah, I just said it so it would be visible to the WIndows installer. It should normally be converted to ntfs automatically during installation
[16:51] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: depends what you want
[16:51] <Er_Fantasma> Sorry!
[16:52] <xnv> Er_Fantasma: Is something like Glade what you're looking for?
[16:52] <Shishire> soundray: yes, but the XP installer can also detect both unformatted space and NTFS.  It still needs to reformat them, though
[16:52] <eml> Hey all, I'm looking for help with MTP (Music Transfer Protocol), I'm trying to get it working for my Sandisk Sansa Clip mp3-player. I installed mtp-tools and the library, and I'm getting some errors: http://rafb.net/p/HK07Gy58.html
[16:52] <Er_Fantasma> ok... A program that can generate GUI windows for gnome that you can mix with the c++ code.
[16:53] <soundray> Shishire: okay -- there's nothing inherently wrong with my suggestion, though -- is there?
[16:53] <Er_Fantasma> Lets say to build graphical interfaces for c++ programs
[16:53] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: the gui is developed with c++ against graphics libraries/widgets like gtk
[16:53] <Shishire> soundray: sorry, no.  I'm just a bit jumpy
[16:53] <Er_Fantasma> Yes!
[16:53] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: so there is your answer
[16:53] <soundray> laptop: am I making sense?
[16:54] <DPVNB> Hi, I have a problem with my sound card. The input doesn't work. Here are the outputs of lspci etc: http://tinyurl.com/558x3c
[16:54] <xnv> Er_Fantasma: Look at Glade to see if that's what you want.
[16:54] <Aquahallic> afternoon folks
[16:54] <Guest75098> How to change the following command so that $i will always be a 4 digits number ? for ((i=0; i<15; i++)) do echo MonFichier-$i; done;
[16:54] <hal_v2> Okay, not new to ubuntu or compiz but recently I switched from desktop cube to plane and then back to cube. problem is now that when I use my middle mouse button or my scrolling buttons it doesn't recognize it's inside a window and it just switches viewport/zooms out as if it was on the desktop. this was never a problem before.
[16:54] <Er_Fantasma> But something that you can build windows like QT4 assistant
[16:54] <Aquahallic> compiling a software that there's no package for in the repos... what does this warning mean... You should update your `aclocal.m4' by running aclocal.
[16:54] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: you may want to join the gnome channel and ask the developers how they deal with it
[16:55] <xnv> Er_Fantasma: Or you can just look at Glade like I keep repeating
[16:55] <Er_Fantasma> OK!
[16:55] <ikonia> Aquahallic: "run acloclal to update aclocal.m4"
[16:55] <Er_Fantasma> :)
[16:55] <ikonia> Aquahallic: what package
[16:55] <Er_Fantasma> Ok! OK!
[16:55] <Aquahallic> it's the new firewall builder
[16:55] <Alim> Helo
[16:56] <hal_v2> Okay, not new to ubuntu or compiz but recently I switched from desktop cube to plane and then back to cube. problem is now that when I use my middle mouse button or my scrolling buttons it doesn't recognize it's inside a window and it just switches viewport/zooms out as if it was on the desktop. this was never a problem before.
[16:56] <soundray> !repeat | hal_v2
[16:56] <ikonia> hal_v2: you've just asked that
[16:56] <hal_v2> Thanks, that's helpful.
[16:56] <smm289> hello all.  is it possible for a graphics driver to cause artifacts on an LED laptop screen.  I have been running vista on my xps1330 for awhile an never noticed to little white dots on my screen.  These dots are only visible when I cover them with a light window, like the one this chat is displayed on.  These artifacts actually look like little LEDs in the back ground.  I never noticed these in vista, could the ubuntu drivers for the nvi
[16:56] <hal_v2> Asshat.
[16:56] <ikonia> hal_v2: be polite
[16:56] <eml> Okay I found something that might fix my problem. I need to update libmtp to version 0.3.1, but I don't know if there's an ubuntu package for it. How do I see which version is in the repository?
[16:56] <soundray> !ops | hal_v2 abuse
[16:56] <hal_v2> Oh my god.
[16:57] <eml> !help mtp
[16:57] <hal_v2> I can't help but wonder if you people are here to help or just to quote rules.
[16:57] <eml> !mtp
[16:57] <eml> Too bad
[16:57] <Myrtti> can you kids please behave?
[16:57] <hal_v2> I can try.
[16:57] <ikonia> hal_v2: calm down, someone will respond when they know the answer
[16:57] <amaranth> what?
[16:57] <pabix> Hello — I am trying to run a script that used to work well with netcat (it sends HTTP requests and captures the responses), but now it does not work with nc, only with telnet. Is there that much difference?
[16:57] <hal_v2> I'm calm, this just always happens.
[16:57] <ikonia> hal_v2: however, that doesnt mean you can be smart / rude to people
[16:57] <ikonia> hal_v2: then adjust your attitude and follow the rules.
[16:57] <amaranth> i don't speak english.
[16:58] <hal_v2> Grrr, you're angry. I get it. I'm sorry for breaking your rules.
[16:58] <ikonia> hal_v2: I'm not angry - I'm trying to help you get a response for your question
[16:58] <Ockonal> Hey, guys. How can i open systemsettings with root-privilegies?
[16:58] <hal_v2> Just don't ban me again, please. :)
[16:58] <ikonia> hal_v2: just be polite to people
[16:58] <soundray> hal_v2: how about apologizing for the gross insult you dished out
[16:58] <Ockonal> sudo systemsettings - unknow command
[16:59] <hal_v2> soundray: which one?
[16:59] <ikonia> hal_v2: soundray please drop it
[16:59] <ikonia> just be polite/respectful to each other and lets move on
[16:59] <hal_v2> Will do.
[16:59] <CShadowRun> does anyone know the licensing surrounding /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/4x6.pcf.gz and if it's open who i should assign credit to, i want to include it in something i'm making :)
[17:01] <hal_v2> Just a side note: Anyone know any programs that will do mla format for me automatically? College papers are annoying.
[17:01] <bullgard4> I have read 'man sgrep'. What is the most common practical use case of sgrep?
[17:01] <Wanderer> anyone running a bind9 master server with google doing the slave services?
[17:01] <ikonia> bullgard4: not in #ubuntu please
[17:01] <gnuskool> hello
[17:02] <ikonia> Wanderer: google doing the slave ?
[17:02] <ikonia> Wanderer: google does not have open DNS servers that I'm aware of
[17:02] <bullgard4> ikonia: Ubuntu users should not use sgrep?
[17:02] <smm289> whats the diff between the ubuntu cd and the ubuntu dvd
[17:02] <ikonia> bullgard4: thats generic linux command help
[17:02] <gnuskool> is there a prog in ubuntu to  check sectors on a flash drive, and mark them as bad?
[17:02] <ikonia> smm289: dvd has more packages on without downloading
[17:02] <kdnewton> Ockonal: You could try right clicking the link in the menu and finding the command that is run for systemsettings
[17:02] <PriceChild> smm289: the dvd contains the entire main and restricted repositories.
[17:02] <xnv> CShadowRun: It's X11, so probably the MIT license
[17:02] <soundray> gnuskool: flash drives don't have sectors
[17:02] <Wanderer> ikonia: they're doing mail/dns for my domain under the google apps
[17:03] <brolly81> my display is all messed up. how do i fix it? I have it hocked up to a 42in lcd samsung
[17:03] <gnuskool> soundray: my bad, so how do i stop certain parts of it being used then?
[17:03] <kdnewton> Ockonal: I'm not too familiar with KDE4 to know if the menu displays the command
[17:03] <Ockonal> kdnewton: it doesn't work
[17:03] <CShadowRun> xnv i see :)
[17:03] <Alim>  
[17:03] <bullgard4> smm289: The difference is not big. The DVD has a few additional programs.
[17:03] <arun> hi
[17:03] <PriceChild> bullgard4: the dvd contains the entire main and restricted repositories.
[17:03] <ikonia> Wanderer: apologies I'm not following
[17:03] <carandraug> hal_v2: you mean formatting references?
[17:04] <spiritssight> what is the differents between ubuntu server and desktop?
[17:04] <gnuskool> when you get a read error on a 5 gig flash drive must you throw it away?
[17:04] <Ockonal> kdnewton: right-clicking will open
[17:04] <brolly81> my display is all messed up. how do i fix it? I have it hocked up to a 42in lcd samsung
[17:04] <soundray> gnuskool: you don't. Flash drives manage themselves, you can't address a particular memory region on them. This is due to wear-levelling, which takes place outside the control of the OS.
[17:04] <arun> how to run windows installed software using wine
[17:04] <Ockonal> kdnewton: I need to set date/time
[17:04] <ikonia> !wine > arun
[17:04] <magnetron> !helpersnack | ikonia
[17:04] <jonathan_> hello!
[17:04] <Wanderer> ikonia: sec, may have found something
[17:04] <jonathan_> can anyone tell me where the config of the video4linux driver is safed??
[17:04] <hal_v2> Maybe. I'm thinking like an openoffice only it is guided specifically at college papers.
[17:04] <smm289> so it doesn't really matter then.  I going force convert my girlfriend to ubuntu ;) I am going to try out her laptop with a Live CD or DVD I have both, just wondering what the diff was
[17:04] <soundray> gnuskool: it's painful, I know. I had to bin a 4GB SD card
[17:05] <brolly81> ﻿my display is all messed up. how do i fix it? I have it hocked up to a 42in lcd samsung
[17:05] <bicz> halo where i can find list of supported prints?
[17:05] <arun> mr ubottu ,iam able to run only notepad using wine,if i specify any other path i recieve a dos disk not found error
[17:05] <gnuskool> soundray: its really a waste, but i suppose i'll have to toss this one too
[17:06] <Ockonal> kdnewton: do you know, how to change time/date with console?
[17:06] <carandraug> hal_v2: you have zotero which is a firefox extension ot biblius which is a program on it's own. Both of them integrate in OpenOffice. Zotero is much simpler to work with
[17:06] <jonathan_> no ideas?
[17:06] <hal_v2> Thanks. Anyone get anything on my first question yet?
[17:06] <krauss> soundray: I just clicked the maximum visual effects on my appearance preferences window, it looks as if it has stopped responding.
[17:06] <ikonia> hal_v2: just be patient
[17:06] <hal_v2> K
[17:06] <brolly81> soundtray how do i get to my display config
[17:06] <brolly81> ?
[17:07] <hal_v2> It's very irritating, sorry.
[17:07] <ikonia> hal_v2: if they didn't see your question, they won't know it, if they saw it but don't know it, they won't all of a sudden know
[17:07] <Ruslan}> Саламы
[17:07] <kdnewton> Ockonal: date -s "11 SEPT 2008 CUR:RENT:TIME"
[17:07] <krauss> soundray: do I just wait, or should I force it to close?
[17:07] <hal_v2> ikonia: that's why I repeat myself. :P
[17:07] <kdnewton> where cur:rent:time is the current time
[17:07] <magnetron> arun, wine doesn't operate on the physical disks, but instead it operates on the virtual disks. you need to install your software on the Virtual wine disks to be able to run them - the virtual disks only contain notepad after wine is installed
[17:07] <carandraug> hal_v2: try repeating that question every hour or so. Maybe in the mean time someone that knows the answer will be in the room
[17:07] <soundray> brolly81: 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk'
[17:07] <Ockonal> kdnewton: thanks!
[17:07] <dzhoser> кто нибудь говорит по русски
[17:07] <Ockonal> dzhoser: i'm
[17:07] <hal_v2> carandraug: I wish I had that kind of time
[17:08] <arun> how to do that mr magnetron
[17:08] <soundray> krauss: I'd give it a minute, then kill
[17:08] <Ockonal> dzhoser: я :)
[17:08] <Rioting_pacifist> why would stuff intermintantly apear in lsusb when its always physicaly inside my laptop
[17:08] <krauss> soundray: it's been like that for a while. thanks. I'll kill it
[17:08] <ikonia> arun: have you read the docs ubottu posted you
[17:09] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: internal devices can be connected to the USB
[17:09] <magnetron> arun, usually you doubleclick on the installer exe file. ubottu will give you a link to a site with per-application instructions.
[17:09] <magnetron> !appdb > arun
[17:09] <magnetron> !pm > arun
[17:09] <gnuskool> any thinkpad r51 users here?
[17:09] <krauss> Gah, brb.
[17:09] <ikonia> gnuskool: just ask the real question
[17:09] <BashItOut> brb
[17:09] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray: but why would it disapear when its still got to be physically connected ?
[17:09] <brolly81> ﻿i am having a hard time with my display? i have a sumsunt 42in lcd, can you help? i tried to pull it up on my terminal and adjust and the the OS is too big
[17:09] <magnetron> arun, wine isn't windows and not all apps run in wine
[17:09] <brolly81> wtf
[17:10] <smm289> its amazing, I bought my xps1330 with 3Gb ram, vista regularly used about 40% of that.  Ubuntu uses about 350Mb and runs beautifully fast.   Its just amazing to me
[17:10] <gnuskool> my intel graphics mobile extreme card on thinkpad r51 is really slow, like 386 slow, ive tried everything under the sun, any ideas?
[17:11] <ikonia> gnuskool: what driver are you using
[17:11] <brolly81> ﻿﻿i am having a hard time with my display? i have a sumsunt 42in lcd, can you help? i tried to pull it up on my terminal and adjust and the the OS is too big
[17:11] <gnuskool> ikonia: intel driver
[17:11] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: this can happen if the laptop BIOS has the capability to power the internal device down.
[17:11] <ikonia> gnuskool: intel or i810
[17:11] <soundray> !wtf > brolly81
[17:11] <soundray> !repeat > brolly81
[17:11] <gnuskool> ikonia: i810 :D
[17:12] <ikonia> gnuskool: change it to intel
[17:12] <gnuskool> ikonia: how?
[17:12] <ikonia> gnuskool: intel is the more advanced driver
[17:12] <ikonia> gnuskool: in your xorg.conf
[17:12] <soundray> brolly81: why don't you run displayconfig-gtk as has been suggested?
[17:12] <gnuskool> ikonia: thx
[17:12] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray:  so it cant be fixed using some special lsusb command? :(
[17:13] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: explain what the exact problem is please
[17:13] <Wanderer> ok, opendns has something cached wrong
[17:14] <spiritssight> can someone tell me the differents between ubuntu server and desktop
[17:15] <soundray> !server | spiritssight
[17:15] <kindofabuzz> server = no desktop
[17:15] <kindofabuzz> by default
[17:16] <kindofabuzz> Wanderer, you can go to opendns's site and have it check a cache
[17:17] <lat> I used gparted to format a USB drive, but it doesn't show up in the file browser. Is there something else I need to do?
[17:17] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray:  i have a webcam (m5602 not supported) and it sometimes shows in lsusb, thats about all i know
[17:17] <ronny> hi
[17:18] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: do you dualboot Windows?
[17:18] <ronny> got a weird issue, network-manager stops my manual configured usb0 (in /etc/network/interfaces) from working
[17:18] <ronny> im using intrepid
[17:18] <ronny> anyone got an idea on what to do ?
[17:18] <soundray> ronny: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:18] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray: nope, vista doesnt work since i shrunk it.
[17:19] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: if you disable the webcam in the BIOS setup, it probably won't be seen by lsusb any more.
[17:20] <gsd> Hey guys can someone help me with an error I get when ever I try to play an .avi in VLC? [00000345] a52 decoder: A/52 channels:6 samplerate:48000 bitrate:448000
[17:20] <gsd> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[17:21] <hal_v2> blargh
[17:21] <brolly81> soundtray i did as you suggested and looked up my manual for the tv and choose the best option close to my tv, restarted my pc and now the display is worst
[17:21] <slashzul> is there an IM for ubuntu gnome desktop?
[17:22] <ksbalaji> What is .ICE Authority file? I had problems with it while opening session and I had to login as root to delete it. Now my session works but some features are gone.
[17:22] <`Matir> slashzul, pidgin?
[17:22] <filius> i want your help
[17:22] <tyo> yfikyu
[17:22] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray: i was trying to get the camera working, but i suppose if its a bios problem theres not much i can do
[17:22] <matteo_> Hello, i am trying to install Xubuntu's last version on an gp with 238 Mb ram all went fine until now. I am stucked at 15% of installation :"finding system's files" i can hear some sound from the pc but nothing happens... Any tips?
[17:22] <filius> anybody can help me?
[17:22] <`Matir> Anyone know of a good photo-tagging application that's cross-platform and allows concurrent access from multiple users?
[17:23] <gsd> filius: just ask
[17:23] <MacAgony> msg nickserv set hidemail on
[17:23] <cgentry72> I am using the latest Ubuntu and trying to get emerald decorations to work but the only way I know how is to run emerald --replace
[17:24] <kindofabuzz> matteo_, you're not from LBC by any chance are you? just curious
[17:24] <ksbalaji> What is .ICE Authority file? I had problems with it while opening session and I had to login as root to delete it. Now my session works but some features are gone.
[17:24] <cgentry72> is there another way?
[17:24] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: so the real problem is that you can't get your webcam to work?
[17:24] <spiritssight> will the server vision work on a computer that had the desktop vision (using a webserver)
[17:24] <slashzul> is there an IM for ubuntu gnome desktop besides pidgin?
[17:24] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray:  well i can get it to work when its in lsusb but it not when its not
[17:24] <filius> i want add snow effect on my ubuntu
[17:24] <spiritssight> (using as webserver)
[17:24] <PriceChild> spiritssight: the server and desktop versions are the same, just slightly different sets of software installed to begin with
[17:25] <PriceChild> spiritssight: you can install a webserver on the desktop version, or gnome on the server version.
[17:25] <filius> now i have the burn effect
[17:25] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: so when does it disappear?
[17:25] <Nitsuga> hello. nobody knows how to set up the partition in text mode? thanks
[17:25] <matteo_> kindo i haven't understand :S
[17:25] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray:  sometimes its not there when i start the laptop othertimes it disapears if i swivel the camera around
[17:25] <spiritssight> Thank you very much for answering
[17:25] <kdnewton> slashzul: You could try kopete (uses KDE libs)
[17:25] <kdnewton> also aMSN
[17:26] <ksbalaji> Please respond -What is .ICE Authority file? I had problems with it while opening session and I had to login as root to delete it. Now my session works but some features are gone.
[17:26] <soundray> Nitsuga: you can use parted, fdisk and mkfs to partition disks and create filesystems
[17:27] <cgentry72> I am using the latest Ubuntu and trying to get emerald decorations to work but the only way I know how is to run emerald --replace
[17:27] <ksbalaji> Am I connected to ubuntu help channel please?
[17:27] <fr4nk-k> cgentry72: so, what's the problem?
[17:27] <cgentry72> fr4nk-k, I have to keep the terminal window open for decorations to show up
[17:27] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: I think it has a wobbly internal connection
[17:28] <cgentry72> fr4nk-k, and i have to type this everytime I start ubuntu
[17:28] <kindofabuzz> cgentry72, alt-f2 emerald replace
[17:28] <kindofabuzz> or emerald --replace &
[17:28] <kindofabuzz> in cli
[17:28] <brolly81> i typed 'displayconfig-gtk' to change my display for my monitor and now it is saying i need administrative rights
[17:28] <kindofabuzz> i meant alt-f2 emerald --replace
[17:28] <hal_v2> Can I repeat my question yet?
[17:28] <smm289> has anyone been succesful in getting vista backup to backup its files to an ubuntu system
[17:28] <kdnewton> ksbalaji: you may have been better off changing the ownership of the .ICEauthority file
[17:29] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray: so it pobably needs taking to a computer shop ? where theyll probably tell me ubuntu is unsupprted :(
[17:29] <kdnewton> ksbalaji: I'm not sure the repercussions of deleting it, sorry
[17:29] <cgentry72> kindofabuzz, yes but it keeps the window open for me to use decorations, if i close it i lose the emerald decorations
[17:29] <smm289> I get a succesful connection, and it rights a few files to the ubuntu directory then I get some dumb windows error saying cannot create file when file already exists
[17:29] <dulapul> hello
[17:29] <brolly81> im sorry soundtray and ubuntu but it is frustrating for me too
[17:29] <fr4nk-k> cgentry72: You can try System > Settings > and there's a point (in German it's called "Sitzungen", the English translation is something like "Sessions"; there you can add emerald
[17:30] <ksbalaji> kdnewton, thanks for responding. In future, how to change ownership?
[17:30] <soundray> brolly81: I told you several times, you need to run 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk'
[17:30] <kindofabuzz> cgentry72, i just told you waht to do
[17:30] <fr4nk-k> cgentry72: by clicking "Add"
[17:30] <spiritssight> Why would someone choice ubuntu server over other verions
[17:30] <soundray> brolly81: and make sure you spell my nick correctly, otherwise I will miss your reply
[17:30] <ikonia> spiritssight: if someone was running on enterprise hardware
[17:30] <hal_v2> Okay, not new to ubuntu or compiz but recently I switched from desktop cube to plane and then back to cube. problem is now that when I use my middle mouse button or my scrolling buttons it doesn't recognize it's inside a window and it just switches viewport/zooms out as if it was on the desktop. this was never a problem before.
[17:31] <mudit> i was following a tutorial on how to setup svn server, and i messed up with 'sudo vigr'
[17:31] <kdnewton> ksbalaji: sudo chown yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername/.ICEauthority
[17:31] <soundray> spiritssight: because it uses less disk space
[17:31] <kindofabuzz> cgentry72, alt -f2 emerald --replace, or on command line, emerald --replace & or add emerald --replace to your sessions
[17:31] <ksbalaji> kdnewton, Now what does ICEauthority do in the system please?
[17:31] <dulapul> how can i mount cd and dvd on ubuntu 8.04?
[17:31] <kindofabuzz> put it in
[17:31] <dulapul> can anyone help me
[17:31] <fr4nk-k> dulapul: should be working automatically.
[17:31] <mudit> how to get out of modifying mode ?
[17:31] <dulapul> no
[17:31] <dulapul> is not :(
[17:31] <Frozenball> ^^_______--
[17:31] <fr4nk-k> dulapul: using GNOME?
[17:32] <mudit> help me out please
[17:32] <dulapul> yes
[17:32] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray: thx for the help
[17:32] <rsc_> anyone know what media player is used here? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=86717&file1=86717-1.jpg&file2=86717-2.jpg&file3=86717-3.jpg&name=Shiki-Colors
[17:32] <smm289> !gksu
[17:32] <kdnewton> ksbalaji: Not sure what .ICEauthority does, really. I had problems with it and ksmserver back in 2005
[17:32] <minus_> dulapaul: try sudo mount scd0 /media/cdrom0
[17:32] <Krauss> Whew/
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> rsc_: hmm,i'm not sure..
[17:33] <smm289> i have used gksu and it allows me to right click a file in nautilus and then change the ownership and stuff.  however if the file is on an old ntfs windows drive you cannot change the ownership
[17:33] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: if you find a shop with reasonably competent people, and you tell them that your camera disconnects when you swivel it, they will probably be willing to help you.
[17:33] <minus_> dulapaul: my mistake, it is supposed to be /dev/scd0
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> smm289: why can't you
[17:33] <rrittenhouse> I have two zip files that I backed my data up to last year (with a password). I now can't find the password that I used on the archives.... is there any way (in ubuntu) I can "guess" the password?
[17:33] <Nitsuga> soundray, I have alredy done the disk partitions, I only have to configure mount options and mount points
[17:33] <ksbalaji> kdnewton, thanks. Anyway the system somehow works and I have to find what has really gone wrong!
[17:33] <Krauss> Okay, I've tried to set my visuals to the maximum setting, and it says it couldn't apply it to the desktop. What could have created this problem?
[17:34] <smm289> i dunno, I try and it automatically changes it back to root ownership. I did a google search and i found a forum and they said that you cannot change owner ship of a file that is on ntfs that is root
[17:34] <laeg> alt+f1 or alt+ctrl+tab lets me access the top edged panel where i can easily cursor and tab along from the applications all the way to the end where the power button resides but tab and/or cursor are skipping my minimized apps in the system tray, how can i remedy this? also it's not listen in the ubuntu shortcuts
[17:34] <Rioting_pacifist> ksbalaji: it holds a magic cookie, for securtity stuff in xorg i think
[17:34] <abchirk> what I have to do, that resolvconf starts automatically every systemboot?
[17:34] <smm289> if you placed the file there from the linux box then yes, but if it was there origonally that it is stuck as root
[17:34] <abchirk> or every connection of wlan?
[17:34] <Jaeru> join #animehq
[17:34] <IndyGunFreak> smm289: if you say so..
[17:34] <smm289> least thats what I read, and the behavior is following that
[17:34] <smm289> i dunno
[17:35] <fr4nk-k> Jaeru: no.
[17:35] <Nitsuga> soundray, I have alredy done the disk partitions, I only have to configure mount options and mount points
[17:35] <Nitsuga> soundray, are you there?
[17:35] <Prose> if I asked Apache and SSH to listen to a same port and both daemons are started, could that make a server crash (like also crash samba daemons)?
[17:35] <soundray> !fstab > Nitsuga
[17:35] <smm289> i have an ntfs drive that has a lot of files I placed on it when I was using vista, now I am using ubuntu and I want to change the ownership back to me from root but it wont allow it.  My next step is to get rid of the ntfs file structure, then I should be all set
[17:35] <Ceiling_Cat> quick question - I'm assuming ubuntu keeps a log somewhere of the dates and times a machine boots up
[17:36] <Ceiling_Cat> where is it?
[17:36] <soundray> Ceiling_Cat: /var/log
[17:36] <Nitsuga> soundray, thanks
[17:36] <Krauss> soundray: Okay, I've tried to set my visuals to the maximum setting, and it says it couldn't apply it to the desktop. What could have created this problem?
[17:36] <mudit_> i messed up with vigr in command prompt
[17:36] <ksbalaji> Rioting_pacifist, Now I get it. I tried to enable ufw and disabled it. Most probably that switched off ICEAuthority!
[17:36] <mudit_> can anyone help me with this
[17:36] <Ceiling_Cat> soundf_ - I checked there. /var/log/boot is empty
[17:37] <filius> hello, root
[17:37] <mudit_> i dont know how to come out of 'vigr'
[17:37] <soundray> Krauss: your graphics driver may not support compiz
[17:37] <filius> hello soundray
[17:37] <Nucco> Smm: you have read-write access to the drive?
[17:38] <Krauss> soundray: Ah. So that's a down the drain effort, seeing as this is a laptop?
[17:38] <ksbalaji> Rioting_pacifist, magic cookie? - Net related?
[17:38] <soundray> mudit_: try hitting : then q -- failing that, Esc, then : then q
[17:38] <crdlb> Krauss: what video card is it?
[17:38] <soundray> filius: hi
[17:39] <keithclark> How do you turn on smdb?
[17:39] <spiritssight> soundray: the thing I hear is that the server gets many update and can break the system, what is your feeling on this?  why7 else should choice this over other disro?  I would also like to ask if YOU know of any good reads on learning about server / links and what things mean and do type stuff?
[17:39] <Krauss> soundray: let me check
[17:39] <paul_Xie> hi
[17:39] <mudit_> soundray: thanks. i was locked for ages there
[17:40] <nicoleamy> hello
[17:40] <Rioting_pacifist> ksbalaji: i dont think so but i really dont know much about it, i think its held more for the Xorg protocol
[17:40] <DefunctProcess> anyone have any experience getting wireless working on msi wind?  DHCP doesnt seem to work...
[17:40] <Krauss> crdlb: let me check/
[17:41] <mudit_> i am getting this error now >>> vigr: Couldn't lock file: Interrupted system call
[17:41] <soundray> spiritssight: the server version gets fewer updates than the Desktop. Breakage is extremely rare in released versions of Ubuntu server. Where did you get that misinformation?
[17:41] <laeg> alt+f1 or alt+ctrl+tab lets me access the top edged panel where i can easily cursor and tab along from the applications all the way to the end where the power button resides but tab and/or cursor are skipping my minimized apps in the system tray, how can i remedy this? also it's not listed in the ubuntu shortcuts
[17:41] <Nucco> DefunctProcess: can you explain more pls...
[17:41] <mudit_> i think i messed my groups and passwords
[17:41] <mudit_> damn it
[17:41] <brolly81> soundray: thanks i just used the detect button and it went to a default config display.
[17:41] <Gnea> !language | mudit_
[17:41] <DefunctProcess> Nucco, it associates with the AP but cant get an ip address from it.  I've installed the drivers from source
[17:41] <spiritssight> some person said it to me.  It may of been at the begging of time I don't know
[17:42] <nicoleamy> hello
[17:42] <Gnea> mudit_: have you checked the correct files to make sure it's still the same info?
[17:42] <soundray> spiritssight: for further information about the server edition, look at the ubottu factoid. I'll send it to you again
[17:42] <soundray> !server > spiritssight
[17:42] <nicoleamy> i want to know how to open command prompt at school
[17:42] <mudit_> Gnea: , are you a bot ?
[17:42] <nicoleamy> they have seemed to blocked it
[17:43] <Gnea> mudit_: no, ubottu is.
[17:43] <mudit_> ok
[17:43] <sparr> i want to remote control my home PC while it is behind a firewall, using a client-server-client system like gotomypc or something similar.  are there solutions like that for linux?
[17:43] <spiritssight> soundray: some person told me, maybe it was a pass issue I don't know I am no to all of this and really want to learn but I don't find to many people willing to teach a person that is a little slow at geting this stuff
[17:43] <Nucco> Defunctprocess: you're using networkmanager? It might be an issue with the dhcp config. Can you use manual ip?
[17:43] <mudit_> well, now the sudo command is not working
[17:43] <nicoleamy> hello
[17:43] <BashItOut> back
[17:43] <Gnea> mudit_: how are you trying to use it?
[17:43] <nicoleamy> i need help
[17:43] <NineTails> you tell me ;)
[17:43] <mudit_> i need to recover/backup, can I ?
[17:43] <bringatowel> sparr, idk how gotomypc works, but you can use VNC over secure SSH to do that
[17:43] <Krauss> Ok this sucks.
[17:44] <Gnea> !ask
[17:44] <soundray> mudit_: of course, if you've made a backup
[17:44] <nicoleamy> i serously need help
[17:44] <DefunctProcess> Nucco, I tried setting the ip manually in NM but it didnt work ....
[17:44] <Krauss> How do I check which graphics card I'm using?
[17:44] <soundray> Krauss: lspci | grep VGA
[17:44] <nicoleamy> i want to know how open the cmd at school
[17:44] <Gnea> !patience | nicoleamy
[17:44] <Krauss> soundray: In terminal?
[17:44] <Nucco> Defunctprocess: which version of network manager?
[17:44] <mudit_> Gnea:  this is the command >>> sudo vigr
[17:44] <soundray> Krauss: where else?
[17:45] <Gnea> mudit_: okay, and what is the error message?
[17:45] <Krauss> soundray: ;] haha, point taken
[17:45] <DefunctProcess> Nucco, 0.6.6
[17:45] <nicoleamy> i can't seem to open the cmd at school, do anybody know how to open the cmd for school computers?
[17:45] <Krauss> crdlb: It's an ATI
[17:45] <mudit_> vigr: Couldn't lock file: Interrupted system call
[17:45] <ganesh> from where can i download ubuntu studio ?(torrent)
[17:45] <Gnea> !repeat | nicoleamy
[17:45] <crdlb> Krauss: specifically?
[17:45] <ratpoison> hello! fglrx 8.04.1 x86-64 user: Once, my pc crashed and I restarted X. I was "greeted" not by GDM, but by a message from saying "Out of Sync". GDM seems to work perfectly, I just can't see anything. If I type blindly, I can login.
[17:45] <Krauss> crdlb: It says ATI Technologies Inc RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP]
[17:46] <Gnea> nicoleamy: why do you need it at school?
[17:46] <Nucco> Defunctprocess, that version doesn't support static ip. Disable network manager and try using network-admin to connect, see if that works
[17:46] <nicoleamy> you know, to open all the websites so i can access it
[17:46] <crdlb> Krauss: ah ok, the fix should be easy; please join #compiz-fusion for a moment
[17:46] <mudit_> !kick | mudit_
[17:46] <mudit_> lol
[17:46] <nicoleamy> some websites are banned from school
[17:46] <Krauss> crdlb: Okay, thanks alot
[17:46] <Gnea> nicoleamy: that's a joke, right?
[17:46] <laeg> alt+f1 or alt+ctrl+tab lets me access the top edged panel where i can easily cursor and tab along from the applications all the way to the end where the power button resides but tab and/or cursor are skipping my minimized apps in the system tray, how can i remedy this? also it's not listed in the ubuntu shortcuts
[17:47] <Gnea> !illegal | nicoleamy
[17:47] <nicoleamy> no it isn't a joke
[17:47] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, you want to what?
[17:47] <mudit_> Gnea: i am getting this error >> vigr: Couldn't lock file: Interrupted system call
[17:47] <Gnea> nicoleamy: you're right, it isn't.
[17:47] <sparr> bringatowel: no, i can't
[17:47] <nicoleamy> so its illegal to do that?
[17:47] <krim_> Anyone know how to move a number up or down in OpenOffice? Like say I want to write H2O or cm3 ?
[17:47] <Servarium> yes it is
[17:47] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, to do what?
[17:48] <ganesh> ﻿from where can i download ubuntu studio ?(torrent)
[17:48] <Gnea> mudit_: okay, try this one please: sudo visudo
[17:48] <bringatowel> sparr, how come?
[17:48] <sorolop> hello its my first time here can I  ask something?
[17:48] <nicoleamy> kindofabuzz: get into the cmd at school
[17:48] <Nucco> Krim_ use oo math, or subscript. See help
[17:48] <ratpoison> krim_: mark the text, right click and push superscript or subscript
[17:48] <sparr> bringatowel: NAT
[17:48] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, get into the cmd? you mean like telnet into the system or something?
[17:48] <Gnea> nicoleamy: there's a reason certain websites are blocked. you'll have to go elsewhere to view them. we will not help you break your school's policy.
[17:48] <krim_> Nucco: ratpoison: Thanks!
[17:48] <mudit_> lol
[17:49] <nicoleamy> kindofabuzz: yes
[17:49] <magnetron> nicoleamy, Tor or SSH socks tunnels can be used can be used for passing through web proxies and firewalls
[17:49] <bringatowel> ganesh, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[17:49] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, that's called hacking.  this is not a hacking channel
[17:49] <Gnea> magnetron: stop.
[17:49] <mudit_> Gnea: then what ?
[17:49] <nicoleamy> so which one is a hacking channel?
[17:49] <earthling> lol
[17:49] <ksbalaji> Thanks friends and bye!
[17:49] <Gnea> nicoleamy: try asking in #freenode
[17:50] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, i'd say learn linux first before you even think about hacking
[17:50] <Gnea> mudit_: did it open?
[17:50] <ratpoison> hello! fglrx 8.04.1 x86-64 user: Once, my pc crashed and I restarted X. I was "greeted" not by GDM, but by a message from saying "Out of Sync". GDM seems to work perfectly, I just can't see anything. If I type blindly, I can login.
[17:50] <nicoleamy> how do i get into freenode?
[17:50] <kindofabuzz> lol
[17:50] <mudit_> yes
[17:50] <kindofabuzz> troll
[17:50] <earthling> lol
[17:50] <Gnea> nicoleamy: type:  /join #freenode
[17:50] <Sepu> bonsoir
[17:50] <mudit_> it did
[17:50] <nicoleamy> on this chatline
[17:50] <Sepu> dites, vous savez si le directx 10 tourne sous wine?
[17:50] <Gnea> yes.
[17:50] <abchirk> Hm can anyone help me with resolvconf? I have to run /etc/init.d/resolvconf restart that he updates my /etc/resolv.conf. The wlan I start manually... what can I do that he auto updates resolv.conf?
[17:50] <Sepu> enfin si wine gere le dx10
[17:50] <magnetron> !fr | Sepu
[17:50] <Gnea> nicoleamy: they can help you get to where you're going
[17:51] <Sepu> Oups sorry
[17:51] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, you know if you get caught doing that you could be expelled from your school
[17:51] <nicoleamy> so i type that /join #freenode on this chatline?
[17:51] <mudit_> Gnea:  ?
[17:51] <airdog> Need major help!!! i confirmed my problem - ubuntu ics is routing lan ip's over wan causing my ppp connection to drop - details here http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=906126&page=6
[17:51] <Gnea> nicoleamy: for the final time: yes.
[17:51] <soundray> Sepu: I don't think it will, yet
[17:51] <kindofabuzz> and will probably be pretty easy to catch you since you have no idea what to do anyways
[17:51] <nicoleamy> i'm in year 11 and they will never know that will they?
[17:52] <mudit_> i m locked
[17:52] <nicoleamy> kindofabuzz: I'm a year 11 student in school
[17:52] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy is trying to change his grades because he saw it on a movie before lol
[17:52] <soundray> mudit_: if you can't use sudo because of a mistake you've made editing the user configuration, you have to boot in recovery mode and fix it from there
[17:52] <mib_sa5umw> hey, I am having a problem- when I close my laptop lid in 8..04.1, when i reopen it the screen is black bars and red lines, while the mouse just looks like a block of white on all of that, and I can see it move when I move my mouse... so, while I can fix that bigger problem later, what I need to now is how can I hibernate from the terminal in 8.04?
[17:52] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, what does that have to do with anything/
[17:53] <kindofabuzz> ?
[17:53] <nicoleamy> what?
[17:53] <mudit_> i think i can use sudo,
[17:53] <Gnea> nicoleamy: what school is it?
[17:53] <nicoleamy> its a crappy school
[17:53] <Nucco> Nicoleamy: what is the meaning of year 11?
[17:53] <ek> Haha.
[17:53] <mudit_> i am getting this error >> vigr: Couldn't lock file: Interrupted system call
[17:53] <mudit_> when doing sudo vigr
[17:53] <kindofabuzz> Nucco, 11th grade?
[17:53] <nicoleamy> i can't access to the firewall?
[17:53] <mib_sa5umw> I need to know, because I need to see the stuff on my desktop, I just accidentaly closed the screen
[17:54] <Gnea> mudit_: do you get the same error when using the sudo visudo command?
[17:54] <Nucco> Kindofabuzz: i'm not an american :). What age does that imply?
[17:54] <gaintsura> hey all, I just purchased a logitech quickcam 9000 pro, and when I was checking around before buying it, it said linux-uvc would be needed to make it work. Grabbed the latest svn of linux-uvc, make and make install, the only program that recognizes my camera is Cheese, and I get test pattern + static, does anyone have any suggestions, or has anyone worked with this camera before?
[17:54] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:54] <mudit_> nope @ Gnea
[17:54] <mib_sa5umw> so I need to hibernate. I set a hotkey previously for terminal, so I can get past that.... please, I'm desperate
[17:54] <kindofabuzz> Nucco, i don't think nicoleamy is american either
[17:54] <Gnea> mudit_: can you please pastebin the output of this command:  ls -l /etc/group*
[17:55] <mib_sa5umw> -short version: how do I hibernate from terminal in 8.04?
[17:55] <nicoleamy> kindofabuzz: what you mean ubuntu off topic
[17:55] <mudit_> now how to exit out of visudo !
[17:55] <mudit_> i m dumb
[17:55] <airdog> mib_sa5umw: im guessing man shutdown might have answer for u
[17:55] <Joelito> Hi all, I have an EXE file (self-extractor made with Winzip nor Winrar) is it possible to extract its contents on ubuntu?
[17:55] <soundray> nicoleamy: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask your question there
[17:55] <Gnea> mudit_: :q<enter>
[17:55] <Nucco> Kindofabuzz, do i assume that 11 grade is high sch? Senior perhaps?
[17:55] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, it's a channel, right click this and join: #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:55] <nicoleamy> kindofabuzz: how do i take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:55] <Gnea> Joelito: yes, just install wine
[17:55] <kindofabuzz> Nucco, 12th is senior
[17:56] <nicoleamy> ok got ya
[17:56] <Gnea> !wine | Joelito
[17:56] <ek> mib_sa5umw: You could use the 'hdparm' command if you'd like.
[17:56] <mudit_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 932 2008-09-11 21:33 /etc/group
[17:56] <Joelito> Gnea: So, no package in ubuntu? Ok, thanks :)
[17:56] <spiritssight> soundray: can you send me that link again please?
[17:56] <mudit_> that is the out put
[17:56] <mib_sa5umw> airdog: I can't see my screen right now, I'm on a friend's mac asking this question
[17:57] <soundray> !server > spiritssight
[17:57] <airdog> after 7 months of troubleshooting i confirmed my problem - ubuntu ics is routing lan ip's over wan causing my ppp connection to drop - details here http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=906126&page=6
[17:57] <Gnea> Joelito: see the URL that ubottu gave you, it explains it all :)
[17:57] <spiritssight> soundray: thanks very much
[17:57] <mib_sa5umw> I searched, can't find this on google for some reason... seems pretty basic, so I dont know whz this is so difficul
[17:57] <pdj> hi, anyone installed talkd on 8.04?
[17:57] <mudit_> Gnea: the output is >>>  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 932 2008-09-11 21:33 /etc/group
[17:58] <mib_sa5umw> anyone, please, im begging, its very imporant... how do i hibernate in 8.04?
[17:58] <mib_sa5umw> from terminal)
[17:58] <mib_sa5umw> (because i can't see the screen)
[17:58] <ek> mib_sa5umw: man hdparm
[17:58] <Ferchault> hello! A few days ago I was able to read DVD without any problems. Then sometimes errors occurred (vlc and lsdvd and dd were unable to read from the device). I thought it is copy protection. But now I tried a Video-DVD I made. And it does not work. Data-DVD are fully working. Does that mean that my drive is broken?
[17:58] <airdog> mib_sa5umw: pm_hibernate or pm_suspend research google there are tons of articles on it
[17:58] <Gnea> mudit_: yeah i saw it - i'm kinda busy so please be patient
[17:58] <mudit_> oops !
[17:58] <Gnea> mudit_: what about /etc/group-?
[17:59] <mib_sa5umw> ek, i can' look at man pages, Im on a mac and cant see my screen in ubuntu
[17:59] <ek> mib_sa5umw: Man pages are available online though.
[17:59] <mudit_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 932 2008-09-11 21:33 /etc/group
[17:59] <mib_sa5umw> airdog, ic ant find anything for 8.04 on hibernate from terminal
[17:59] <mudit_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 915 2008-07-18 22:01 /etc/group~
[17:59] <mudit_> -rw------- 1 root root 920 2008-08-17 13:41 /etc/group-
[17:59] <mudit_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 932 2008-09-11 21:33 /etc/group.edit
[17:59] <FloodBot1> mudit_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <mudit_> -rw------- 1 root root   5 2008-09-11 21:54 /etc/group.lock
[17:59] <mudit_> i missed the '*'
[18:00] <ek> mib_sa5umw: Depending on the type of hibernate you're looking for, airdog's recommendation might be better.
[18:00] <airdog> you also need to check acpi settings mib_sa5umw
[18:00] <Gnea> !pastebin | mudit_
[18:00] <Nucco> mib_sa5um why do you believe hibernate will solve your problem?
[18:01] <mib_sa5umw> ek, airdog, googling "pm_hibernate 8.04" gives 0 results
[18:01] <carandraug> mib_sa5umw: man hdparm is http://linux.die.net/man/8/hdparm though it seems that getting hibernate working properly is the least of your problems
[18:01] <mib_sa5umw> nucco, it will let me get to the screen again
[18:01] <Gnea> mudit_: yeah, you've got a lockfile there already - looks like your system got turned off while you were editting it
[18:01] <mudit_> i closed the terminal
[18:01] <mib_sa5umw> at least, I think it will. restarting the compouter is the only waz to see the screen again.#
[18:01] <Gnea> mib_sa5umw: try googling this instead:  ubuntu hardy hibernate
[18:02] <airdog> mib_sa5umw:  Results 1 - 10 of about 377,000 for ubuntu man shutdown. (0.21 seconds)
[18:02] <mib_sa5umw> ek, what kind of hibernation is there?
[18:02] <Nucco> mib_sa5umw you've experienced this before? What exactly is the problem?
[18:02] <mudit_> so how do I undo/recover  ?
[18:02] <smm289> ive been messin around with ubuntu, installing different applications just checking stuff out and uninstalling the ones i dont like, do i need to do anyhting to make sure things are clean
[18:02] <ek> mib_sa5umw: Well, I wasn't sure if you simply wanted to spin-up the HDD (Or spin down) or go into (Or come back from) a complete hibernation.
[18:02] <sjea> hi all
[18:02] <mib_sa5umw> Nucco, anytime I close the screen, when I open it again, I get black and red vertical lines, and a mouse tht is just w htie box on the surface of all of that#
[18:03] <mib_sa5umw> ek, I want to power down completelz#
[18:03] <ek> mib_sa5umw: You want to restart the machine?
[18:03] <sjea> how easy is it to open port for torents?
[18:03] <mib_sa5umw> sorrz for the ypos, Im on a dutch keyboard, and its weird....#
[18:03] <carandraug> mib_sa5umw: then "sudo shutdown -h now"
[18:03] <ek> carandraug++
[18:03] <Gnea> mudit_: first of all, make sure it's not already running:  ps axf | grep vigr
[18:03] <sjea> !torrents
[18:03] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: can you switch to a virtual console with Ctrl-Alt-F2 ?
[18:03] <mib_sa5umw> what is the difference between pm_hibernate and shutdown -h?
[18:04] <mib_sa5umw> soundray: I donät think so, let me check again
[18:04] <airdog> mudit google corrupt <name of file> i messed it up the other day you go into grub menu and then have to remount your drive so its not read only
[18:04] <Gnea> mib_sa5umw: man shutdown  and  man pm-hibernate
[18:04] <Gnea> mib_sa5umw: and it's pm-hibernate, not pm_hibernate
[18:04] <carandraug> mib_sa5umw: with hibernate, when you boot next time, it will be as it was before. It copies the RAM to the swap partition and loads it to RAM
[18:04] <salvo> join 1
[18:04] <Nucco> mib_sa5umw is your system set to suspend on when lid is closed.
[18:04] <airdog> guys what is the best place to get in touch with programmers of ics protocols for ubuntu?
[18:04] <airdog> after 7 months of troubleshooting i confirmed my problem - ubuntu ics is routing lan ip's over wan causing my ppp connection to drop - details here http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=906126&page=6
[18:05] <carandraug> mib_sa5umw: with shutdown, it's pretty much the same as restart
[18:05] <mib_sa5umw> ctr alt f4 and others bring up black screen
[18:05] <Gnea> airdog: look for the RFC
[18:05] <airdog> Gnea whats that mean?
[18:05] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: shutdown -h shuts the machine down completely, requiring cold boot. Hibernate means that you save the system state to disk, and resume where you were when you turn it back on.
[18:05] <ek> mib_sa5umw: Just reboot, 'sudo shutdown -r now'.
[18:05] <mib_sa5umw> Nucco, it is not set to suspecnd, it used to, and that caused even more problems
[18:05] <mib_sa5umw> carandraug: i know what hibernate does...
[18:05] <brolly81> i am trying to put the volume down using my hotkeys on my keyboard and it doesnt work.  I have to manually put the volume down on my surround sound in order to dec. or inc. the volume. The volume on 'movie player' does not work
[18:06] <mib_sa5umw> that s why i am tying to find out how to do it
[18:06] <Winston_SmithVT> I have a folder in my trash that I can't delete do to permissions, when I start nautilus with root privs the trash is empty. how do I empty this?
[18:06] <airdog> im googlin it now.... Gnea
[18:06] <mib_sa5umw> Gnea, I cant easily get to man pages right now
[18:06] <Gnea> airdog: well it's going to depend what you mean by ics, too
[18:06] <Gnea> mib_sa5umw: tried googling for it?
[18:06] <mib_sa5umw> ok, i need hibernate, not shutdown.... sounray, thanks for saving me from that...
[18:07] <mudit_> Gnea: this is what i get >>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/45861/
[18:07] <carandraug> mib_sa5umw: It was you who asked the difference between the two. Also, man pages are available oneline. Go here http://linux.die.net/man/8/shutdown
[18:07] <brolly81> but my hotkeys do work for pausing or going to the next track
[18:07] <mib_sa5umw> ek, I don't want to just powerdown, i need to save everything on mzy desktop... wy is this so hard to understand?
[18:07] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: try 'sudo pm-hibernate' then
[18:07] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: because you never bothered to explain
[18:07] <Nucco> Winston_smithVT from the root account, navigate to the user with the thrash folder's home, show hidden files, look for .trash and delete inside it
[18:07] <mib_sa5umw> ok, thanks.
[18:07] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: also, this is unlikely to rescue you (but worth a try, of course)
[18:08] <ek> soundray++
[18:08] <Gnea> mudit_: yeah, looks like you zombied the process when you closed the terminal - it didn't close vigr, so it's still running. try this:  sudo kill 7951
[18:08] <mib_sa5umw> I'll let you guys know how it turns out#
[18:08] <airdog> gnea ics works it just randomly decides to route a lan ip over my wan usualy when i have increased traffic load
[18:08] <laeg> alt+f1 or alt+ctrl+tab lets me access the top edged panel where i can easily cursor and tab along from the applications all the way to the end where the power button resides but tab and/or cursor are skipping my minimized apps in the system tray, how can i remedy this? also it's not listed in the ubuntu shortcuts
[18:08] <Winston_SmithVT> Nucco, I don't have a .trash, i've looked
[18:08] <mib_sa5umw> soundray, what was that?
[18:08] <airdog> Gnea did you look at my forums post? i have six pages of information..
[18:08] <Gnea> airdog: what *is* ics?
[18:08] <airdog> internet connection sharing
[18:08] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: hibernating is unlikely to rescue you (but worth a try, of course)
[18:08] <Gnea> airdog: 'ics' has many definitions in the ubuntu world.
[18:08] <airdog> oh sorry
[18:08] <Bleep> hello
[18:08] <Gnea> airdog: oh ok, so you meant the windows definition. gotcha.
[18:08] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: trash folder as moved recently
[18:09] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: I expect it will resume to the same messed-up state that it is in now
[18:09] <airdog> heheh i actually got ics from ubunuts ics tutorial
[18:09] <Nucco> Winston_SmitVT then type su
[18:09] <Gnea> airdog: no big deal :)
[18:09] <Winston_SmithVT> carandraug, I checked /.local/share/Trash nothing in it
[18:09] <soundray> Nucco: please don't recommend su here
[18:09] <smm289> maybe ya did not delete anything ;) :-!
[18:09] <sjea> would some one be willint to help me open port for bittorrents
[18:10] <Nucco> Winston_smitVT SORRY, i'm on a cell phone here. You can use the terminal to delete.
[18:10] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: ok. Just in case you didn't knew
[18:10] <nicoleamy> my dad wants to put tomtom home onto ubuntu, is there any chance of doing that?
[18:10] <kindofabuzz> sjea, open them in your router
[18:10] <sjea> or some links im really new to lunus
[18:10] <mudit_> Gnea: i am getting the same output
[18:10] <soundray> nicoleamy: perhaps with wine
[18:10] <sjea> just router i can do that
[18:10] <airdog> after 7 months of troubleshooting i confirmed my problem - ubuntu internet connection sharing is routing lan ip's over wan causing my ppp connection to drop - details here http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=906126&page=6
[18:10] <airdog> there ;)
[18:10] <Falcons_roost> Hello
[18:10] <Gnea> airdog: hrm, perhaps it has something to do with your firewall configuration?
[18:10] <kindofabuzz> airdog, you in TN by any chance?
[18:10] <SurfnKid> hello
[18:10] <Gnea> airdog: dude, you don't need to do that - we got it the first time
[18:10] <sjea> do not need to worrie about port in unbunto ?
[18:10] <airdog> no in colorado
[18:10] <nicoleamy> soundray: right ok, can you tell me the commands that i have to type to get this tomtom home onto the ubuntu desktop?
[18:11] <SurfnKid> what is the best file encryption data-encryption proggy there for linx
[18:11] <airdog> Gnea, i feel its something inside the coding not my config
[18:11] <Winston_SmithVT> carandraug, ya it's odd, my trash that I access by just clicking it from the desktop chows it. But I can't find the files from the command line, or when I'm in nautilus as root.
[18:11] <Gnea> airdog: won't know until you post the firewall config
[18:11] <soundray> nicoleamy: it's not as straightforward as telling you a few commands. You will have to familiarize yourself with wine a bit
[18:11] <airdog> i have tried guide + guard dog , firestarter , and just plain masqing with out a firewall
[18:11] <soundray> !wine | nicoleamy
[18:11] <mudit_> Gnea: i m not able to kill the process !
[18:12] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, tomtom is a piece of hardware. i doubt the software is open source
[18:12] <gaintsura> airdog: I don't mind guarddog, its pretty straight forward
[18:12] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: are the files hidden? If you try ls in the terminal, it won't show them
[18:12] <soundray> kindofabuzz: he said Tomtom Home, that's software
[18:12] <airdog> gaintsura: i have no problem gettin guarddog to work its just randomly routes a lan ip over the wan network
[18:12] <Nucco> Winston_smitVT i mean type sudo chown user.user then drag and drop the troublesome folder in the terminal. User.user is your username
[18:12] <Gnea> mudit_: then try:  sudo kill -9 7951
[18:12] <Winston_SmithVT> carandraug, Ya I tryed ls -a still didn't see anything in the trash
[18:12] <kindofabuzz> oh
[18:13] <nicoleamy> kindofabuzz: so can i download it on ubuntu
[18:13] <Gnea> mudit: ?
[18:13] <soundray> nicoleamy: when you've read the help page that ubottu gave you, insert the Tomtom Home CD, find the installer program and run it with wine.
[18:14] <laeg> opened pidgin and then when it didn't work i looked in prefs.xml and list_visible is set back to 0
[18:14] <mudit>  Gnea : it worked now !
[18:14] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, does it have a linux version?
[18:14] <laeg> wc
[18:14] <laeg> alt+f1 or alt+ctrl+tab lets me access the top edged panel where i can easily cursor and tab along from the applications all the way to the end where the power button resides but tab and/or cursor are skipping my minimized apps in the system tray, how can i remedy this? also it's not listed in the ubuntu shortcuts (i have no mouse and can't access apps that start minimized)
[18:14] <Gnea> mudit: :D
[18:14] <mudit> Gnea: i get this >>  9784 pts/1    S+     0:00      \_ grep vigr
[18:14] <airdog> is thre a better flavor of linux then ubuntu for nat? would even kubuntu be better?
[18:14] <Winston_SmithVT> Nucco, ok, one sec
[18:14] <soundray> kindofabuzz: no, there is no Tomtom Home for Linux yet -- waiting for it myself ( nicoleamy)
[18:14] <nicoleamy> no
[18:14] <Gnea> mudit: okay, try to run vigr again
[18:15] <hwilde> [69486.326312] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 11s! [wpa_supplicant:4379]
[18:15] <nicoleamy> tomtom home only have the windows version
[18:15] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: have you looked for the files in /root/.Trash and /root/.local/share/Trash ? In case they exist
[18:15] <RandomNuB> hello all :D
[18:15] <soundray> nicoleamy: and Mac OS
[18:15] <mudit> i get the same attention now !
[18:15] <RandomNuB> how can I install the compiz manager?
[18:15] <mudit> that a swap file exists and blah blah
[18:15] <Gnea> nicoleamy: you may need to recompile
[18:15] <nicoleamy> recompile?
[18:15] <Gnea> !compiz | RandomNuB
[18:15] <nicoleamy> how do i do that?
[18:15] <airdog> nicoleamy: you only need tomtom home once in a great deal of time, i suggest the hassle might not be worth the use
[18:16] <sjea> !ports
[18:16] <Gnea> nicoleamy: you'd need to install the source
[18:16] <soundray> Gnea: recompile? You didn't mean nicoleamy did you
[18:16] <carandraug> RandomNuB: search for ccsm in add/remove...
[18:16] <sjea> !firewall
[18:16] <Gnea> soundray: pm?
[18:16] <RandomNuB> Well someone gave me an easy command to put into the terminal and it worked :D
[18:17] <Falcons_roost> I have mx 400 video card 32 meg that worked just fine in this installation however even with the opengl and 3d acceleration working it was not strong enoughtorun EVE online so I thought . installed a radeon 9000 and could not get driver decetion working tried synaptic and was unseccessful installing new driver. I put the other video card in and downloaded the latest driver recommended . But when i reboot it comes up sayin
[18:17] <Falcons_roost> g running in low graphics mode even though the driver says it is working. What do i do?
[18:17] <soundray> Gnea: okay
[18:17] <Winston_SmithVT> Nucco, space or no space user.user or user .user , both don't work user.user chown throws an error user .user says no file or dir
[18:17] <mudit> Gnea:  ?
[18:17] <martelm404> I've got a quick stupid question.  I'm running 8.04 x64. When I try and add more than 4gb's of memory to my machine, it panics with an early exception rip at startup.  I found some sites online that indicate the Ubuntu can only see 4gb's unless you use a special kernel.  Any thoughts ? Thanks!
[18:17] <Winston_SmithVT> carandraug, No i'll look now
[18:17] <nicoleamy> what kind of source do i need?
[18:18] <mudit> Gnea: this is what i am getting now >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/45865/
[18:18] <erUSUL> Winston_SmithVT: chown user:group whatever
[18:18] <Falcons_roost> !restore
[18:18] <Nucco> Winston_smitvt, replace user in that statement with your username, both before and after the dot.
[18:18] <unavailable> getting <unknown program name>(7546)/: Communication problem with  "ktorrent" , it probably crashed.
[18:18] <unavailable> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "  when i run ktorrent
[18:18] <gaintsura> has anyone gotten a Logitech QuickCam 9000 Pro to work? Only program it starts in is Cheese, and when it starts there all I get is a test pattern and static
[18:18] <hwilde> [69486.326312] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 11s! [wpa_supplicant:4379]
[18:18] <airdog> how can i prevent nat of lan ips over wan ?
[18:18] <unavailable> anyone?
[18:18] <nicoleamy> what source do i need to be able to download the tomtom?
[18:19] <Winston_SmithVT> Nucco, I did replace user with my username
[18:19] <Gnea> mudit: that's fine, just say 'yes'
[18:19] <unavailable> getting <unknown program name>(7546)/: Communication problem with  "ktorrent" , it probably crashed.  Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "  when i run ktorrent
[18:19] <gaintsura> !repeat | unavailable
[18:19] <Winston_SmithVT> carandraug, No .local or .trash in my root dir
[18:20] <gaintsura> carandraug: I thought it was under .local too (was going to help him too), but its not there
[18:20] <soundray> hwilde: is there a question in there that I can't see?
[18:20] <dasy2k1> hi all
[18:20] <Gnea> nicoleamy: you may need to recompile wine from source if it doesn't work right - or install crossover
[18:20] <hwilde> soundray, why does my cpu lockup with that error message?
[18:20] <Gnea> nicoleamy: crossover would be easier
[18:20] <smm289> did u delete your trash,  lol is that possible ?
[18:20] <Nucco> Winston_smitvt, or just drag and drop the offending folder in the terminal, note the path, then use nautilus as root and navigate there
[18:20] <dasy2k1> what is the path of the alsa device as opposed to /dev/dsp
[18:21] <soundray> hwilde: it tells you: there is a bug. Consider reporting it on launchpad.
[18:21] <Winston_SmithVT> Nucco, ok will try
[18:21] <gaintsura> smm289: even if you delete .trash the next time something is put there it will show back up
[18:21] <soundray> Gnea: nicoleamy hasn't even tried wine so far
[18:21] <Gnea> soundray: oh ok
[18:21] <airdog> what would cause internal ip addresses being routed through extrenal networks when the routing is established correctly and working 99.9% of the time
[18:21] <nicoleamy> ok, and also when i come to turn off my pc, it doesn't shut down properly
[18:21] <Gnea> soundray: just keeping an eye out for the road ahead :)
[18:21] <erUSUL> dasy2k1: /dev/snd/*
[18:22] <nicoleamy> how do i fixd that?
[18:22] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: so, you can see that folder with nautilus but not with the command line? Is that right? What happens when you double in the trash icon?
[18:22] <Gnea> nicoleamy: what do you mean? does it stop all of the programs and then not turn off or..?
[18:22] <airdog> it seems like heavy network loads cause it to break down more frequently
[18:22] <unavailable> getting <unknown program name>(7546)/: Communication problem with  "ktorrent" , it probably crashed.  Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "  when i run ktorrent
[18:23] <carandraug> !repeat > unavailable
[18:23] <nicoleamy> no, i switch all the programs off and then shut down, it shuts down half way through and then it have errors shutting down
[18:23] <soundray> nicoleamy: is your kernel current? What does 'uname -r' give you?
[18:23] <nicoleamy> what?
[18:23] <gnubie> gaintsura, installing gspca-source got logitec webcam going
[18:23] <soundray> nicoleamy: open a terminal and run    uname -r
[18:23] <Winston_SmithVT> Nucco, ok I found it, but no clue how to get to it it's, /root$ trash:///media%252fwd%20Passport%252f.Trash-1000%252fcd%20back%20up%20copies
[18:23] <nicoleamy> ok
[18:24] <airdog> i feel i found a MAJOR bug n ubunut's NAT how do i alert the appropriate people to gettin gthe bug resolved?
[18:24] <soundray> !bug | airdog
[18:24] <carandraug> nicoleamy: but in the end, do you have to cold boot or anything like that? Or it justs shows a bunch of erros and then sutdowns by itself?
[18:24] <mudit> Gnea: how to say yes ?
[18:25] <airdog> thank you very much soundray
[18:25] <Gnea> mudit: whatever the option to continue is
[18:25] <Nucco> Typing on a phone is annoying. I'm out. Cheers.
[18:25] <nicoleamy> it shows a bunch of errors and then it doesn't shut down at all, i have to press and hold down the switch on
[18:25] <airdog> what you guys recommend for a opensource nat platform that supports evdo devices?
[18:25] <unavailable> when I run ktorrent >>    Communication problem with  "ktorrent" , it probably crashed.  Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
[18:26] <gaintsura> gnubie: what video/cam program?
[18:26] <Gnea> nicoleamy: you may need to force acpi then.
[18:26] <Winston_SmithVT> Nucco, Ok think I found it, I think it's in the root of my usb drive where I deleted the files
[18:26] <Winston_SmithVT> Nucco, yep found it
[18:26] <nicoleamy> Gnea: how do i force?
[18:26] <snitko> Is that correct, that usually on VPS I can upload my own OS image (I want Ubuntu 8 server) and install it? Or usually I can't?
[18:26] <Winston_SmithVT> carandraug, thanks for the help
[18:26] <Winston_SmithVT> Nucco, Thanks for the help
[18:26] <smm289> how stable is it to install kde on top of my ubuntu gnome
[18:26] <Gnea> nicoleamy: this webpage will tell you how: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=848807
[18:26] <smm289> I wanna try out kde a little
[18:27] <mudit> when i continue and quit, and start again, i get the same Message @ Gnea
[18:27] <gaintsura> smm289: they are seperate wm's, mostly they wont effect each other
[18:27] <soundray> smm289: as stable as installing it on its own. Just 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and select a KDE session when you log in.
[18:27] <airdog> Gnea: Send RFC-3442 classless static routes (note the netmask encoding) is this what you were refering too? i dont understand rfc?
[18:27] <smm289> is it just going to be a button i click to switch back and forth between gnome and kde ?
[18:27] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: oh, yeah. If it's in pen or external HD, it always go for .Trash in there, not for your home folder
[18:27] <patrick> hey guys
[18:27] <gaintsura> smm289: yes, at login
[18:28] <hicham> hi
[18:28] <patrick> hi
[18:28] <soundray> smm289: note, KDE3 is current, but will be replaced by KDE4 with the October intrepid release.
[18:28] <Scunizi> smm289: you can "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" to get the full ubuntu kde setup.. then from the log-in screen choose sessions and change to kde to use it.. switch back anytime to gnome.
[18:28] <dasy2k1> erUSUL: im trying to get a voice client working (team speak) and the default of /dev/dsp does not work but it dousent work for my mucrphone in anything, what would i change this to to use the alsa sound sytem?
[18:28] <Gnea> airdog: sorry, RFC is Request For Comment, which is the document that defines internet protocols
[18:28] <Guest95349> i was wundering if linux has a tablet anpplicatio
[18:28] <hicham> does any one what a xmpp proxy mean?
[18:28] <smm289> sweet :)
[18:28] <airdog> ok
[18:28] <gnubie> gaintsura, camorama
[18:28] <Guest95349> hey
[18:28] <erUSUL> dasy2k1: never used teamspeak ... dunno what sound system irt uses ..
[18:28] <Scunizi> Guest30496: you mean an external tablet? or a tablet Pc?
[18:28] <Matt_Kaiser-TMS> quit
[18:29] <carandraug> nicoleamy: have you tried to take a look at dmesg logs? I don't know where they are kept (somewhere in /var ). That may be handy to find out the problem
[18:29] <Guest95349> does linux offer tablet feature for tablet pcs?
[18:29] <Gnea> Guest95349: yes.
[18:29] <Guest95349> really?
[18:29] <Gnea> ...
[18:29] <Gnea> YES
[18:29] <Winston_SmithVT> New question how long will it take to delete 20gb of files with rm -r ?
[18:29] <nicoleamy> i don't know how to find out the problem
[18:29] <smm289> ubuntu does it all :D  except my call of duty 2 :(
[18:29] <Guest95349> so if i installed ubuntu 8.04 i t wil work?
[18:29] <Gnea> Winston_SmithVT: until it's done.
[18:30] <nicoleamy> is it the only way to force it to shut down
[18:30] <sipior> Winston_SmithVT: depends on the number of files, among other things.
[18:30] <Gnea> nicoleamy: you've already found the problem. :)
[18:30] <gaintsura> gnubie: Camorama 'could not connect to /dev/video0 please check your connection'
[18:30] <Winston_SmithVT> Gnea, ok good answer lol
[18:30] <unavailable> when I run ktorrent >>    Communication problem with  "ktorrent" , it probably crashed.  Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
[18:30] <nicoleamy> i have?
[18:30] <smm289> has anyone run call of duty2 under wine, does it preform just like it does under my windows install
[18:30] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: I don't know. I think it depends if it's one file or several small files. It didn't took him too long to delete by accident my 50Gb music collection though :'(
[18:30] <Gnea> nicoleamy: yes, it's quite common, actually
[18:30] <Scunizi> Winston_SmithVT: too many variables.. drive speed, computer speed etc.. let us know.,:)
[18:30] <Gnea> nicoleamy: yes, you said the problem is: the pc will not turn off.
[18:30] <Winston_SmithVT> carandraug, ouch
[18:30] <PurpleWolf> hi all
[18:31] <Winston_SmithVT> It's done now
[18:31] <nicoleamy> Gnea: yes
[18:31] <Scunizi> Winston_SmithVT: that was quick
[18:31] <Guest36159> Gnea will i have to config anything after i instil ubuntu on my tablet or does it dectected Manualy
[18:31] <Guest36159> ?
[18:31] <Gnea> nicoleamy: and that, is the problem. the website i gave you has the solution to that problem.
[18:31] <Winston_SmithVT> So I guess I learned that if you delete files from a usb drive the trash is placed on the usb drive
[18:31] <nicoleamy> where is the commands to stop this from happening?
[18:31] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: too quick. It doesn't give you enough time to press cancel once you see the name of the files that are being erased
[18:32] <RandomNuB> with what key combo can I switch desktops?
[18:32] <Gnea> Guest36159: most things will be detected automatically, not sure what else you'll need to configure. which tablet is it?
[18:32] <parlin> adhit
[18:32] <Guest36159> it's a fujitsu stylistic
[18:32] <mudit> Gnea: please help !
[18:32] <parlin> cficghk
[18:32] <parlin> hkvyo
[18:32] <I0n> is this a good channel to look for support?
[18:32] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: yes. And if you select to not erase the files from trash when you remove it, the folder will still be there with the files. Same thing happen with Mac
[18:33] <Gnea> mudit: ok, just quit vigr
[18:33] <soundray> I0n: Ubuntu support, yes
[18:33] <Gnea> !support | I0n
[18:33] <I0n> I just have a question about loading programs that I've installed from the package manager
[18:33] <dasy2k1> I0n: if you can filter out all the other simultanious questions
[18:33] <Winston_SmithVT> carandraug, ok, ya that was my problem not knowing that the trash would be on the usb drive
[18:33] <Guest36159> i have regular xp installed on it now but thet tablet feaeture does not work
[18:33] <nicoleamy> Gnea:  where are the commands to stop this from happening?
[18:33] <soundray> I0n: just ask
[18:33] <Guest36159> even though installed the driver
[18:33] <Gnea> !ask | I0n
[18:33] <I0n> my bad,
[18:33] <nicoleamy> there are only codes but no commands
[18:33] <mudit> Gnea:  ?
[18:34] <mudit> i quit
[18:34] <mudit> but whenever I sudo vigr
[18:34] <mudit> i get the same message
[18:34] <soundray> nicoleamy: please make at least an effort to understand what's being said on that page.
[18:34] <Gnea> nicoleamy: you need to open a terminal first, then use a text edittor to edit the file that it's talking about.
[18:34] <Gnea> mudit: okay - rm /etc/group.edit
[18:34] <Gnea> mudit: then try again.
[18:34] <dasy2k1> erUSUL: juts get a box with soud deiver, by default it reads /dev/dsp
[18:35] <nicoleamy> you mean the rectangle boxes?
[18:35] <Gnea> nicoleamy: YES
[18:35] <airdog> here is an example of whats going on Gnea: 01:05:50.337659 IP 10.10.0.10.60726 > unknown.nscnap.net.www: F 0:0(0) ack 1 win 65535  - thats on my wan network (tcpdump -i ppp0)
[18:35] <eventmaster> hello can somebody help me with my sound
[18:35] <eventmaster> i have no sound
[18:35] <soundray> !sound > eventmaster
[18:35] <nicoleamy> ok
[18:35] <dasy2k1> eventmaster: type alsamixer on a console and see if its muted
[18:35] <erUSUL> dasy2k1: well it uses oss api alsa emulation should work as long only one app is using it. maybe you are running teamspeak with other program that uses oss (the game??)
[18:35] <I0n> I'm trying to run ftp, which i installed through synaptic package manager. How do I load this program? Is it in a folder like /bin?
[18:36] <Gnea> nicoleamy: specifically, right here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5315541&mode=threaded#post5315541
[18:36] <PurpleWolf> I have an Asus EAX1650Pro Gamer Edition video card, and when I watch any kind of video in full screen, the images are not fluent. What to do?
[18:36] <airdog> Gnea: or anyone... if you could help me in my description of the problem so i can correctly post it that would help!
[18:36] <eventmaster> i cannot hear anything
[18:36] <dasy2k1> erUSUL: i think ive done it...
[18:36] <maniheer> l0n, try gftp as ftp looks terminal type
[18:36] <smm289> i think the synaptic package manage just installed the files you needed for ftp, try the add/remove programs for a gui front end for the ftp protocal
[18:36] <eventmaster> alsamixer
[18:36] <eventmaster> *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused
[18:36] <eventmaster> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Connection refused
[18:36] <soundray> I0n: ftp is installed with Ubuntu by default. To run it, you should open a terminal and enter 'ftp'.
[18:36] <soundray> !cli | I0n
[18:36] <I0n> maniheer: load it from terminal? I also installed ftp.app
[18:37] <smm289> the add/remove.. should get you a gui front end for ftp
[18:37] <nicoleamy> i just read it
[18:37] <mudit> Gnea: should i remove the swp file ?
[18:37] <maniheer> l0n, try gftp, its like OpenSCP for windows
[18:38] <mudit> rm /etc/group.edit.swp
[18:38] <mudit> ?
[18:38] <maniheer> or filezilla
[18:38] <eventmaster> nobody here how can help me
[18:38] <PurpleWolf> Hi all, I have an Asus EAX1650Pro Gamer Edition video card, and when I watch any kind of video in full screen, the images are not fluent. What to do?
[18:38] <Gnea> mudit: yes.
[18:38] <BashItOut> eventmaster: Whats up?
[18:38] <eventmaster> yes i cannot hear anything
[18:39] <eventmaster> my sound is broken
[18:39] <BashItOut> Oh
[18:39] <I0n> alright i used add/remove for gftp, but how do I add programs to the application menu that have been installed through gnome apt software manager?
[18:39] <BashItOut> How broken? Software broken?
[18:39] <nicoleamy> help!!!
[18:39] <eventmaster> no i don't know
[18:39] <Sylphid|work> what is the right place to ask for a package to be included in a future release of ubuntu
[18:39] <eventmaster> i can nothing hear
[18:39] <dasy2k1> !ask nicoleamy
[18:40] <carandraug> !sound > eventmaster
[18:40] <Sylphid|work> included in the default installation that is
[18:40] <cheeky> morning room; i was wondering ..does ubuntu have rar capability or doi have to download it .. the reason iam asking is coz i downloaded a file and its all rar files ..couldi double click it to open it ? i dont want to do anything iamnot sure of thank you
[18:40] <dasy2k1> !ask | nicoleamy
[18:40] <nicoleamy> Gnea: when i typed the code in, it says permission denied
[18:40] <carandraug> cheeky: it has rar ability. You may have to "sudo apt-get install unrar"
[18:40] <BashItOut> eventmaster: See ubottu's PM
[18:40] <RandomNuB> how can I install a "screenlet? :D
[18:40] <mudit> Gnea: this is what i am getting >> rm: remove write-protected regular file `/etc/.group.edit.swp'?
[18:40] <mudit> shouls i go ahead ?
[18:40] <Gnea> nicoleamy: prepend it with sudo
[18:40] <eventmaster> yes thanks
[18:40] <mudit> should *
[18:40] <eventmaster> it is a big help for me:(
[18:41] <Gnea> mudit: as long as vigr is NOT running, yes.
[18:41] <cheeky> carandraug: soi need toget the packages..just like downloading winrar .. for windows?
[18:41] <smm289> trying to run live dvd, im getting error messages that say things like squashfs error
[18:41] <smm289> sb_bread failed
[18:42] <smm289> unable to read fragment cache block
[18:42] <smm289> ....
[18:42] <mudit> Gnea: thanks a ton, you solved it
[18:42] <smm289> i/o error on device
[18:42] <Guest36159> hey
[18:42] <soundray> eventmaster: please open a terminal and run 'groups'. Does it list "audio"?
[18:42] <Guest36159> guys
[18:42] <mudit> consider urself as super hero, lol
[18:42] <Gnea> mudit: cheers
[18:42] <Guest36159> Gnea
[18:43] <carandraug> cheeky: kind of. It's in the repositories. I don't if it's installed by default. You use it with fileroller o whatever it is you use to compress/uncompress. You install packages that interact with file roller. For rar diles, it's called unrar or rar-free (but the free (open-source) version has no support for the latest version of rar files)
[18:43] <Guest36159> Since when did linux offer tablet features????
[18:43] <eventmaster> yes
[18:43] <cheeky> carandraug: hey dude when i tried to fetch the package it say i have the latest version of unrar
[18:43] <carandraug> cheeky: then you don't have to woory. Just double click on the rar file and it will open with file-roller
[18:44] <nicoleamy> Gnea: still doesn't work
[18:44] <cheeky> carandraug: and do just like how i used unpackage it like windows
[18:44] <Gnea> nicoleamy: soundray might know how to help, i have to go
[18:44] <nicoleamy> ok
[18:44] <nicoleamy> soundray: i need help
[18:45] <maniheer> cheeky loves windows carandraug
[18:45] <cheeky> maniheer: heeeeel nooo
[18:45] <Sylphid|work> route
[18:45] <Sylphid|work> mt
[18:45] <Aska> Всем привет
[18:45] <nicoleamy> soundray: when i'm trying to shut down the pc, it gives me bunch of errors?
[18:45] <newbiez> hello how do i switch from sqlite to mysql?
[18:45] <carandraug> cheeky: I don't know you used to do in windows. But the interface is similiar to Winrar. You can double-click it to open or left click and select uncompress here
[18:46] <Kevin21> does anyone have an asus f6v running ubuntu?
[18:46] <cheeky> maniheer: yeah thats why ..i have ubuntu ..solely running on my computer ..i just got out of prison ..broke the gates of M$ ... :P
[18:46] <Kevin21> i can't get sound :(
[18:46] <soundray> nicoleamy: Gnea gave you a link to a page. You must make an effort to understand and use the information there.
[18:46] <dooglus> Kevin21: I used to have asus w1j running ubuntu if that's any good
[18:46] <Kevin21> did your sound work ootb?
[18:46] <dooglus> Kevin21: I never got good sound - the woofer never worked, only the 2 tweeters
[18:46] <soundray> nicoleamy: I'm having dinner now, I may be back later, then I'll check how you got on.
[18:46] <Kevin21> hmm
[18:46] <carandraug> cheeky: actually, it's "extract here". You can also, right click in a folder and select to compress and then choose the compress format
[18:47] <Kevin21> damn nation i don't want to go back to windows!
[18:47] <cheeky> carandraug:  thnk you i got it to work
[18:47] <dooglus> Kevin21: I'm running sidux on it now, and I don't think the woofer is working still
[18:47] <dasy2k1> !ru | Aska
[18:47] <dooglus> Kevin21: you got no sound at all?
[18:47] <SebNaitsabes> dooglus: :D
[18:47] <Kevin21> none, only when i turn on the computer
[18:47] <Guest36159> yea i love Ubuntu man
[18:47] <dooglus> SebNaitsabes: dood!
[18:47] <dooglus> SebNaitsabes: long time no see - how's it going?
[18:47] <SebNaitsabes> yeah ok why you not on Jabber?
[18:48] <Kevin21> i don't think they have support for the drivers yet, computer came out 2 months ago
[18:48] <Kevin21> and i'm a linux newb
[18:48] <dooglus> Kevin21: I find that "sudo alsaconf" fixes it when the sound breaks for me
[18:48] <I0n> I'm on a Dell Dimension 4700 using an Intel Chipset video driver. I am trying to run a 3d program worldforge and I am having trouble configuring my video driver. I ran nvidia-xconfig, which had problems with my mouse and keyboard, then used ctrl-alt-backspace and I cannot get any screen resolution higher than 800 x 600. How do I get back to a higher screen res?
[18:48] <Patrick> I I LOVE UBUNTU
[18:48] <Kevin21> ill try that thanks
[18:48] <Patrick> yea im a newbie too
[18:48] <eightbit> anyone know where/how I can do this? http://www.ourdesktops.com/desktop_user.aspx?user=Sealbhach
[18:48] <dooglus> SebNaitsabes: I installed sidux and didn't get around to setting up my IM accounts yet - I'll do it now
[18:48] <Guest99927> im trying to install ubuntu on my tablet pc
[18:48] <cheeky> does ubuntu have problems streaming video in embedded player in browser..for me it seems very choppy ..not that its buffering but real choppy .. i installed the extra stuff codecs as well .. (i stream music just fine)
[18:48] <SebNaitsabes> dooglus:  sidux????
[18:49] <unfo> eightbit:  what does the URL describe?  can you explain it to us in text form?
[18:49] <unfo> :)
[18:49] <eightbit> unfo: it's basically a fish tank.. cube
[18:49] <eightbit> really really weird
[18:49] <eightbit> but looks neat
[18:49] <unfo> eightbit: you mean the screen is one face of a cube and you can spin the cube to get to a different virtual desktop?
[18:50] <eightbit> yeah, that looks like what he's doing there in the pic
[18:50] <dooglus> SebNaitsabes: it's offtopic here, but sidux is a live-cd of debian sid
[18:50] <Kevin21> dooglus: how do i find things when they say they are not found? alsaconf is not found when i type in terminal
[18:50] <unfo> eightbit: i've seen that before but I don't know what it's called.
[18:50] <RoRza> Do I need a software drive in order to use a wirless network with Belkin external card ?
[18:50] <unfo> eightbit: maybe it's called compiz?
[18:50] <magnetron> !hardware | RoRza
[18:51] <dooglus> Kevin21: you can search on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for it, or you can install "apt-file", then "sudo apt-file update", then "apt-file search alsaconf"
[18:51] <shannel> t
[18:51] <dooglus> Kevin21: (or you can ask me - apt-file tells me: alsa-utils: /usr/sbin/alsaconf - ie. it's in the alsa-utils package)
[18:51] <Kevin21> your awesome thanks
[18:51] <eightbit> unfo: hmm... there's actually a tag for it at the site, you might be right
[18:52] <RoRza> I have a external wireless card
[18:52] <Scunizi> RoRza: my belkin usb external works just fine.
[18:53] <unfo> eightbit: try a YouTube search for "compiz".  that may help you to figure it out
[18:53] <unfo> i'm really not sure.
[18:53] <RoRza> Scunizi, : did you install any software ?
[18:53] <eightbit> unfo: thanks
[18:53] <RoRza> Scarey, : mine is PCMCIA
[18:53] <Scunizi> RoRza: nope
[18:53] <nicoleamy> how do i install flash
[18:54] <nicoleamy> i mean flash player?
[18:54] <RoRza> Well mine its not detecting it wen I plug the wirless card . . .
[18:54] <carandraug> !flash | nicoleamy
[18:54] <unfo> eightbit: you're welcome
[18:55] <cheeky> nicoleamy:  apt-get
[18:55] <RoRza> Scunizi,  Well mine its not detecting it wen I plug the wirless card . . .
[18:55] <nicoleamy> apt-get what?
[18:55] <dasy2k1> !ndswrapper | RoRza
[18:55] <Scunizi> This is the one I have.. you may have to make the switch in network manager.. sometimes I have to have it plugged in before booting. http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211
[18:56] <carandraug> nicoleamy: flashplugin-nonfree  <-- it's in the link ubottu gave you
[18:56] <RoRza> dasy2k1, ?
[18:56] <cheeky> carandraug:  i remember when did that stuff..i downloaded something with extra stuff or something is that the same thing ?
[18:57] <dasy2k1> RoRza: sorry about that was an attempt at an info script that diddint work
[18:57] <shannel> привет всем
[18:57] <unfo> !ru
[18:57] <carandraug> cheeky: are you still talking about rar files? Or are you talking about flash player? You hvae to enable some extra repositories to get flash
[18:57] <cheeky> nicoleamy: you could try this , 'apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[18:57] <chamunks> I'm going to a lanparty and will be needing to shrink my main drive a bit for an ntfs partition so i can install winedoze xp to it for gaming
[18:57] <unfo> dasy2k1: you spelled it wrong, it's ndiswrapper.  what is the problem RoRza was trying to deal with?
[18:58] <unfo> chamunks: why not install Windows inside VirtualBox or VMware Server?
[18:58] <Scunizi> dasy2k1: depending on which model RoRza has.. he probably doesn't need ndiswrapper.. just info on how to switch from eth0 to the wireless card.
[18:58] <dasy2k1> unfo: external wireless card
[18:58] <cheeky> carandraug: no iam talking to nicleamy about flash player .. and mention about the ubuntu-restricted-extras ..which should have the flash plugin right ?
[18:58] <chamunks> unfo,  framerate = thumbsdown
[18:58] <unfo> chamunks: what minimum FPS do you need?  :)
[18:58] <chamunks> unfo, for some games anyways
[18:59] <chamunks> unfo, the ones that dont really want to play nicely with ubuntu anyways.
[18:59] <RoRza> unfo, I have problem using my external Belkin PCMCI Wirless card
[18:59] <carandraug> nicoleamy: cheeky: I think it's better to just install the stuff you want, instead of going to all the restricted packages. It contains the msttcorefonts which it just breaks firefox aspect for example. Also, it avoids installing closed-source software that you don't need
[18:59] <Scunizi> unfo: chamunks probably also needs the propriatory driver for his video card to make the game work. DirectX and all that... that'
[18:59] <chamunks> unfo, they have a few games that will play well with wine but i really want to play some that dont.
[19:00] <Scunizi> unfo: chamunks that's not available in the VM's.. unfortunatly.
[19:00] <unfo> chamunks: they may work inside Wine or VirtualBox.  but if you don't want to use those, back up your *entire hard drive* then use System > Administration > Partition Editor to resize it.
[19:00] <unfo> chamunks: you must do what I said using a livecd.
[19:00] <unfo> :)
[19:00] <chamunks> Scunizi, unfo  exactly plus theres some starforce drm in some of them
[19:00] <nicoleamy> now your saying it
[19:00] <nicoleamy> how do i abort downloading then
[19:00] <RoRza> unfo, : ?
[19:00] <u_07> What package(s) is needed in order for me to play .mp3 files?  My soundcard is working fine and I can play .wav files. I don't have an internet connection. I have a very minimal install of Debian, but it's about the same as Ubuntu IMO.
[19:01] <unfo> RoRza: I don't know, sorry.  try asking the whole channel
[19:01] <unfo> u_07: why not ask in #debian
[19:01] <Scunizi> chamunks: if you resize to install xp it will overwrite your boot manager so you won't be able to get back into Ubuntu without using the Live CD to restore Grub
[19:01] <chamunks> unfo, I guess i could image my 120GB maindrive to my 720GB secondary but its in reiserFS
[19:01] <u_07> okay..
[19:01] <carandraug> nicoleamy: What I told you was to follow the ubottu istructions. The instructions for 8.04 it's 4 lines long and it explains better than anyone else here
[19:01] <cheeky> carandraug: oh snap .. so should i remove them .. and then doit all over again .. the only reason i did that was coz i dont know wat to get for me to get my multimedia running; .. so any advice on how i would go around this
[19:01] <unfo> chamunks: you can.  there are various tools for imaging.  I use "dd" but there's partimage and more.
[19:01] <chamunks> Scunizi, and i've not been treated well with trying to restore my grub it allways causes me issues.
[19:01] <nicoleamy> oh ok
[19:01] <jerbear> i noticed that there's an option for google calendar in evolution. how do i set this up? entering the calendar name and username doesn't seem to work (although it doesn't complain)
[19:02] <chamunks> unfo, i've had a bit of experience with 'dd' but its a bit complicated for my tastes sometimes.
[19:02] <erUSUL> u_07: quick and dirty ... install "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[19:02] <RoRza> anyone here use the Belkin external wirless card MCPCIA ?
[19:02] <unfo> jerbear: that's not a very distro-specific question.  you would be better off asking that in an evolution-specific channel; they are the evolution experts.
[19:03] <unfo> :)
[19:03] <carandraug> cheeky: I'm not sure what package contains the restricted media. I thinks it's gstreamer or something like that. You can just remove the package msttcorefonts though if you have problems with t
[19:03] <Scunizi> chamunks: another solution.. make a partition on your 750gig drive for XP.. disconnect the primary drive and install xp to the secondary after changing the bios settings to make it primary.. after install reconnect original primary.. then switch back and forth between the OS's with bios instead of grub or other boot manager..
[19:03] <jlgshk> #ubuntu-es
[19:03] <jerbear> unfo: there's an evolution channel?
[19:03] <askand> Is Nvidia still better then atidrivers?
[19:03] <unfo> jerbear: probably.
[19:03] <chamunks> unfo, Scunizi unfortunately i've become so attatched to the way i have my ubuntu setup now i dont want to have to go through the trouble of redoing everything again.
[19:03] <dasunsrule32> jerbear: irc.gimp.org #evolution
[19:03] <unfo> jerbear: either here or on irc.gnome.org
[19:03] <Scunizi> jerbear: gimp.net #evolution
[19:03] <jerbear> cool
[19:04] <Pirate_Hunter> i am running compiz on xubuntu on an intel card, i have added four workstations but compiz only displays two when rotating cube, how do i activate the other two?
[19:04] <RoRza> anyone here use the Belkin external wirless card MCPCIA ?
[19:04] <cheeky> carandraug: well .. 1) how would i remove this ; i wanan use terminal for mostly everything cause so i can actually undertsand this new system instead of using the GUI .. 2) how wouldi know its causing any problems so far ?
[19:04] <chamunks> Scunizi, well i was thinking ill use an external usb sata2 laptop drive i have here for this. with that idea you just mentioned.
[19:04] <Scunizi> chamunks: my last suggestion won't mess up ubuntu.  after xp is installed you could add a line to grub to allow booting of xp directly from grub
[19:04] <karname> how i can remaster ubuntu?
[19:05] <chamunks> Scunizi, i just dont know if grub will play well with my usb drive.
[19:05] <carandraug> carandraug: but I think you need them to wine. I'm really not sure. To me, that package makes the fonts in some programs (firefox specially) awful
[19:05] <Guest99927> hey guys
[19:05] <carandraug> cheeky: but I think you need them to wine. I'm really not sure. To me, that package makes the fonts in some programs (firefox specially) awful
[19:05] <Guest99927> do i need to create a cd in order to install Ubuntu
[19:05] <unfo> chamunks: "i've become so attatched to the way i have my ubuntu setup now i dont want to have to go through the trouble of redoing everything again."  what do you mean?
[19:05] <Scunizi> ChampS``: that might work with the external.. if you can get xp to install correctly.. you'll still have to make the bios changes to get it to boot from usb
[19:05] <Guest99927> because my tablet does not have a CD drive
[19:05] <chamunks> Scunizi, this idea seems the least scary of all of them.
[19:05] <Scunizi> :)
[19:06] <RoRza> anyone here use the Belkin external wirless card MCPCIA ?
[19:06] <Guest99927> guys
[19:06] <chamunks> unfo, Just that i've got ubuntu exactly as i like it right now i have no issues whatsoever, although as im poking through and learning more i keep finding really cool things i can do lol.
[19:06] <Guest99927> is there any way to install ubuntu without a CD drive???
[19:06] <Scunizi> chamunks: remember the usb install will only work with that computer since winxp has the "verification" nightmare.
[19:06] <unfo> Guest99927: there is a way called "wubi" but I hear it's unoptimal.
[19:06] <DRebellion> !install | Guest99927
[19:07] <cheeky> carandraug: hmm okay ..it seems to work fine here m8 .. umm ill keep a loook out.. but..i do have a problem with my codecs .. like i wanan watch stuff on veoh; it plays and stuff but soo choppy you know .. am i missing .. the codecs for it  ubuntu always is chopping when straming videos?
[19:07] <eventmaster> i hate the fukin soudn
[19:07] <chamunks> Scunizi, i just wish i had amd v or whatever it is kus than i'd run the xen hypervisor... /sigh
[19:07] <blackvd> Need a suggestion for a data dvd ripper, thanks.
[19:07] <openros> iam using hardy, i got some problem. error msg is "Kinit : No resume image , doing normal boot ..." help me out
[19:07] <carandraug> cheeky: you need to know the name of the package and whether you hvae installed or not. I use "aptitude search msttcorefont". It shows that the package name is actually msttcorefonts and it's whether is installed or not (i or p in the beggining of the line). To remove it, sudo apt-get purge msttcorefonts
[19:07] <Guest99927> what do you mean by optimal?
[19:07] <chamunks> Scunizi, i betcha vista is no better for the 'verification nightmare' either.
[19:07] <unfo> Guest99927: one friend of mine tried it and it didn't work very well for him.
[19:07] <Scunizi> chamunks: welcome to the club.  Yep to vista
[19:08] <Guest99927> ohhh i c
[19:08] <Guest99927> well the bot said there are other ways
[19:08] <The-Compiler> Hi there, I want to run a display with 1280x800, but even with modelines and other stuff I only get 800x600. Does anyone know what the problem is? The currently xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/391909/
[19:08] <carandraug> cheeky: do you use mplayer? It works great for me. You can install smplayer which is a great frontend for mplayer "sudo apt-get install smplayer"
[19:08] <unfo> chamunks: did you think I meant Partition Editor cannot resize?  because it *can* resize NTFS.
[19:08] <unfo> :)
[19:08] <BashItOut> openros: Will help via PM
[19:09] <jamiejackson> is there any way to get copy and paste between local and remote in tsclient (over rdp, for instance)?
[19:09] <cheeky> carandraug: well see the thing is mate i watch it on my browser; the only player i have is VLC. ..
[19:09] <macd> I have a usb cable for my cell phone, it has an sd card in it, ubunut shows a usb drive, Im unable to mount it via nautilus, can I show all available disks mounted or not?
[19:09] <chamunks> Scunizi, If ubuntu had a direct-x layer of sorts somewhere i would never concidder windows ever again.  Alas gaming support is still minor in respect to all the games out now.
[19:09] <unfo> BashItOut: openros: it is better if you do not help via PM.  do you know why?
[19:09] <carandraug> Guest99927: yes. You can install ubuntu with an USB pen
[19:09] <The-Compiler> macd, you could use various commands (dmesg, sudo fdisk -l, mount) in a Terminal
[19:09] <BashItOut> unfo: No, tell me :p
[19:09] <kristian_paul> use live usb
[19:09] <chamunks> unfo, i try to use gparted partitioning is something i dont really want to experiment with the cli i have far too much data to lose.
[19:10] <Scunizi> chamunks: you mean gaming mfgr's don't have any respect for systems other than Win
[19:10] <macd> The-Compiler, dmesg, hah! I forgot
[19:10] <macd> it shows the disk node
[19:10] <macd> thx.
[19:10] <chamunks> Scunizi, i
[19:10] <unfo> BashItOut: because then nobody else can see the help you are providing and learn from it; also it then won't get into the web-based irc logs.
[19:10] <carandraug> cheeky: I've heard VLC is also very good. Par to mplayer. Instead of watching in the browser, try saving the file and watch with a software that was made to watch movies
[19:10] <chamunks> Scunizi, im sure they do its just the fact that they cannot enforce proper drm because linux is so easily modified.
[19:10] <BashItOut> Aaaah
[19:11] <earthling> how do i change my screen resolution and model?
[19:11] <unfo> BashItOut: plus, we know most people mean well but it lets us vet what you say to make sure you don't say any wrong advice just in case :)
[19:11] <Scunizi> chamunks: yep..
[19:11] <chamunks> Scunizi, either way the state of things arent 100% opensource yet.  Which in an ideal world the would be.
[19:11] <BashItOut> kk
[19:11] <unfo> openros: that is also why you should usually not accept help by PM.  :)
[19:11] <DRebellion> earthling, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[19:11] <openros> came back to main channel
[19:11] <carandraug> chamunks: they can't enforce proper drm in Windows either
[19:11] <chamunks> Scunizi, i guess proprietary has a place in the economy...
[19:12] <earthling> DRebellion: yeah.. but things arent changing
[19:12] <BashItOut> openros: Right, so you get that error message (better re-paste it here)
[19:12] <lacostej> anyone knows how I can record my screen (e.g. a presentation) together with the stream coming from my webcam (so that I produce 2 synchronized streams) ?
[19:12] <cheeky> carandraug: i could.. but i would prefer to play it in the browser; . ...you think you could help me sort this out ?
[19:12] <RoRza> anyone here use the Belkin external wirless card MCPCIA ?
[19:12] <macd> The-Compiler, check out dmesg http://pastie.org/270659  looks like linux doesnt support the filesystem type (windows however does)  but its listed as fat32 in win.
[19:12] <chamunks> carandraug, HAH that is very true.  Drm is a sad sad goose chase.
[19:12] <openros> ﻿Kinit : name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/64190218-2559-41ac-b167-a09920fbee4) = sda(8,8) kinit : trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/64-190218-2959-41ac-b167-a099207fbee4 Kinit : No resume image , doing normal boot ...
[19:12] <openros> this is my error msg
[19:12] <Scunizi> chamunks: no arguments there.
[19:12] <unfo> RoRza: you seem to keep asking the same question but not getting any help.  do you know why?
[19:13] <earthling> DRebellion: model shows up as LCD but its isnt .. i have normal monitor and the resolution is all messed up
[19:13] <RoRza> ?
[19:13] <carandraug> cheeky: try downloading the movie to check the origin. To see if it's slugish when viewing with a media player as well. Will help finding the origin of the problem
[19:13] <BashItOut> openros: And this is Ubuntu - installed local to the Hard Drive?
[19:13] <chamunks> carandraug, i mean i love the fact that i can encrypt my own stuff so people cant access it without a sizable ammount of effort but the fact is people dont know why they would be digging in my business, games are just fun to crack.
[19:13] <unfo> RoRza: let me find you a web reference to why
[19:13] <chamunks> carandraug, and everyone benefits.
[19:13]  * dundel Kill - One Tree Hill - Jimmy Eat World (x«amarok)
[19:13] <openros> ﻿BashItOut: help me out pls
[19:13] <Pici> dundel: Please disable such scripts if you're going to idle in this channel.
[19:14] <chamunks> Scunizi, you wouldnt happen to have a link or know the ubotu for edititng the grub?
[19:14] <dundel> oeps sorry
[19:14] <The-Compiler> macd, looks like some data became corrupted or something I guess :/
[19:14] <dundel> just installed it
[19:14] <Scunizi> !grub | chamunks
[19:14] <earthling> what is the command to reconfigure screen .. forgot :-(
[19:14] <chamunks> Scunizi, i have a feeling this will be quite the hack but after i get this i can allways just image my portable drive for later use.
[19:15] <macd> The-Compiler, thats what I thought, so I used the phones format utility, same errors. odd. now I have to dedicate a usb port to windows in the vm
[19:15]  * macd growls at linux
[19:15] <Scunizi> earthling: xrandr -a 1280x1024 (or whatever)
[19:15] <unfo> RoRza: i found a reference but am checking it is polite before I point you there
[19:15] <BashItOut> openros: Maybe ask someone else?
[19:15] <BashItOut> openros: Sorry
[19:15] <cheeky> carandraug: errrr m8 ... we have another problem..i was straming music using VLC.. and i tried to check if my the browser played it smoothly ..but .. there no sound .. now..comeing from the broser..so i stopped the vlc .. and then ..i played the video ..again .. but still no sound .. and nowi dont even have sound from my stream!!
[19:15] <BashItOut> openros: I need some more information to be able to help
[19:15] <unfo> RoRza: no, the smart-questions essay is rude.  Instead see http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
[19:15] <chamunks> Scunizi, would i have to tweak things in grub much to get my usb harddrive working with it?
[19:15] <earthling> Scunizi: i was guessing more on the lines of dpkg-reconfigure
[19:16] <Scunizi> cheeky: killall pulseaudio and see if that makes a difference.
[19:16] <BashItOut> openros: Does your GUI work?
[19:16] <RoRza> thx
[19:16] <BashItOut> openros: Or are you dumped into Command Line?
[19:16] <Scunizi> chamunks: not sure about that one... doo-able but I don't know how.
[19:16] <carandraug> cheeky: errr, you better follow their advices in that case. I'm not that good dealing with sound problems
[19:17] <farmakotriftis> i have a sound problem can anyone help plz????
[19:17] <macd> The-Compiler, [604543.124861] FAT: Directory bread(block 3860) failed
[19:17] <macd>   must be some inconsistency in FAT implementation on linux
[19:17] <unfo> RoRza: also: A) you are asking people if they use a Belkin.  probably nobody here uses a Belkin.  But maybe someone here knows how to help you make your belkin work.  B) we need a model number.  C) we need to know what you tried.
[19:17] <Scunizi> earthling: Oh.. that line.. you'll find that in the first part of (gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[19:17] <GoodFella_> hello everyone
[19:17] <unfo> all: was that last message I typed cropped?
[19:17] <unfo> GoodFella_: hi
[19:17] <farmakotriftis> hi
[19:17] <unfo> RoRza: :)
[19:17] <GoodFella_> i need help...my Firefox keeps crashing on different sites...it closes by itself...any help???
[19:17] <GoodFella_> unfo: hi unfo
[19:18] <RoRza> unfo, FYI ....  the model is FCD6020
[19:18] <cheeky> Scunizi:  umm no mate
[19:18] <unfo> farmakotriftis: I cannot, but maybe someone here can.  But not if you do not tell us what the problem is.  Please describe your problem in full on 1 line.  :)
[19:18] <unfo> RoRza: i don't know anything about wireless networking.
[19:18] <unfo> :)
[19:19] <GoodFella_> my Firefox keeps closing by itself on some sites...any way I can fix that???
[19:19] <RoRza> unfo, FYI ....  the model is F5D6020
[19:19] <niuq> hi, apache2 is an equivalent command of httpd?
[19:19] <niuq> i cant find httpd and im sure apache is working, so it has to be there...
[19:19] <Scunizi> cheeky: ok.. you can restart pulse audio with ... pulseaudio.. from the command line.  sorry no other suggestions.
[19:19] <will00> is there a way to set up thunderbird so that i can keep my rss feeds synchronized sort of like imap?
[19:19] <unfo> RoRza: i don't know anything about wireless networking.  So don't tell me, tell the channel.  Describe your entire problem in one long message.  Also, you seem to have typed two different model numbers.  Funny.
[19:20] <RoRza>  ....  the model is F5D6020
[19:20] <earthling> Scunizi: go it thanks
[19:20] <GoodFella_> need help fixing my Firefox problem
[19:20] <nicoleamy> how do i download the flash player
[19:20] <GoodFella_> can anyone help me?
[19:20] <cheeky> Scunizi:  hey  i did "dmesg | grep error" and it spat out two lines .. couldi show you .. like paste the lines inhere
[19:20] <unfo> RoRza: when describing a problem always tell: -your ubuntu version, -what you did, -what happened, -what you expected to happen, and -what you tried already.  Put it all in one long post.
[19:20] <nicoleamy> ?
[19:20] <GoodFella_> cheeky: you can go to paste.ubuntu.com and paste the output there and just paste here the URL
[19:21] <indra> did anybody using irssi
[19:21] <indra> ?
[19:21] <GoodFella_> cheeky: that way you don't flood
[19:21] <carandraug> nicoleamy: close anything you have open abou updates and follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash : look in the section called "Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and 8.04 (Hardy Heron)"
[19:21] <Scunizi> cheeky: I probably wouldn't know what to do with them.. but If you'd like to show them put them in paste.ubuntu.com and provide the link
[19:21] <unfo> !helpme | GoodFella_
[19:21] <unfo> GoodFella_: :)
[19:21] <indra> i don't know how read pvt messages
[19:22] <eduard> i need some help with my xorg.conf, i'm trying to get my wacom stuff to work. ServerLayout mentions the wacom input devices, but not the "Configured Mouse". The mouse does work, but the wacom stuff doesnt. How can i debug?
[19:22] <Scunizi> cheeky: others may pick up on it and look providing suggestions.
[19:22] <unfo> GoodFella_: your question might quicker be dealt with on server irc.mozilla.org in channel firefox.  if you have not tried there, try there first
[19:22] <bonez46> help, I need help setting up a home network...
[19:22] <cheeky> Scunizi:  ok m8
[19:22] <eventmaster> can somebody help me with my sound i cannot hear anything
[19:22] <Sweetandy> Why oh why is the tdfx driver so unsupported for VooDoo?
[19:22] <indra> can anybody help me
[19:22] <unfo> GoodFella_: oops typo.  correction: on server irc.mozilla.org in channel #firefox.  (I left out the pound sign before)
[19:23] <Sweetandy> I can't get a resolution higher than 800x600 for an unexplainable reason.
[19:23] <bonez46> currently, my home is set up , with two cables, to the office.. one for a networked printer, the other for the one PC. trouble is.. I want to set up 3 or 4 pc's in the office here.. without having to run separate cat 5 for each machine that I want to have connected....
[19:23] <carandraug> indra: pvt? You mean private messages? In IRC?
[19:23] <Doonz> !turning on shh
[19:23] <unfo> all: indra: bonez46: eventmaster: when describing a problem always tell: -your ubuntu version, -what you did, -what happened, -what you expected to happen, and -what you tried already.  Put it all in one long post.
[19:23] <javierg> Is there a reason why I don't see a shutdown or restart button when I try to log off? I uninstalled GDM so that I can have a terminal type login I don't know if that has anything to do it the shutdown and restart button not being shown
[19:23] <Doonz> !turning on ssh
[19:23] <indra> yes
[19:23] <Doonz> Hmph
[19:23] <unfo> Doonz: see what I wrote :)
[19:23] <indra> i using irssi
[19:23] <carandraug> indra: what IRC client are you using?
[19:23] <indra> i don't know read pvt message
[19:23] <unfo> all: is there a bot message for what I just wrote to all?
[19:24] <Kevin21> Hi, consomeone help me to get alsaconf running?
[19:24] <indra> i using irssi
[19:24] <unfo> indra: what is your first language?
[19:24] <Kevin21> *can
[19:24] <RoRza> ok I am using Ubuntu 7.04 and my wirless card (Belkin F5d6020), its not working. Does anyone know why ?
[19:24] <indra> human or programming
[19:24] <unfo> human
[19:24] <eduard> RoRza: what is "not working"?
[19:24] <indra> croatian
[19:24] <Doonz> unfo im just trying to turn on the service so i can ssh into my box from my windows box
[19:24] <Phantomas> hello is there any low-level format program available ?
[19:24] <eduard> RoRza:  do you get an error?
[19:25] <nicoleamy> can't download it using apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:25] <RoRza> eduard, : connection using that specific wirless card . .
[19:25] <carandraug> indra: sorry. Don't use irssi. That's terminal based right? Someone here might now. Ask how to see private messages using irssi
[19:25] <openro1> Kinit : name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/64190218-2559-41ac-b167-a09920fbee4) = sda(8,8)
[19:25] <openro1> kinit : trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/64-190218-2959-41ac-b167-a099207fbee4
[19:25] <openro1> Kinit : No resume image , doing normal boot ...
[19:25] <openro1> and i couldnt get into the gui in my hardy. help me out pls
[19:25] <Phantomas> i want to use it from a live cd
[19:25] <FloodBot1> openro1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:25] <cheeky> carandraug:  hey  do you know about the ps aux | grep vlc... command i just used it to see if vlc is still playing even though .. it not on my desktop and actually it was not running on the desk top; so i killed it using pkill vlc ...  but nothing happened cozi did ﻿ps aux | grep vlc that again .. and it still did show vlc running ?
[19:25] <indra> yes
[19:25] <RoRza> eduard, : not signal at all
[19:25] <Guest99927> hey crandraug you said i can install it using usb but i have to be on linux to do this right?
[19:25] <eduard> Phantomas: man mkfs
[19:25] <nicoleamy> got this error message and it says unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:25] <tamizh> i'm a programmer working on c,perl & shell scripts in unix server but new to ubuntu linux. I'm interested in contributing to ubuntu community but not sure of where to start can anyone guide me?
[19:25] <Kevin21> when i run sudo apt-file search alsaconf <----- nothing happens, it just returns to a new line
[19:26] <unfo> indra: did you know there's a channel #ubuntu-hr ?  :)  have you tried there?  they may be better able to understand you.
[19:26] <eduard> RoRza: in your windows? or did you also try the commandprompt?
[19:26] <carandraug> cheeky: try killall vlc
[19:26] <indra> no
[19:26] <unfo> no what?
[19:26] <openro1> can anybody help me out to get my gui
[19:26] <RoRza> eduard,  I am using ubuntu 7.04
[19:26] <jussi01> !contribute | tamizh
[19:26] <RoRza> eduard, : what do you mean ?
[19:26] <darren_> Hi could some one plase help its driving me nuts, I have tried 3 usb wifi cards on my laptop and the 3 do not show signel strength, so I tried them on my girlfriends laptop and it shows up no problem,we have the same ubuntu installed and the same wifi drivers, I also have a buit in wifi and that shows up it just seems to be the the usb wifi s , also with the usb wifi I can connect no problem, its just I do not know which is best
[19:26] <darren_> as the colored bar does not show, I know I can try third party software but I like the built in network manager, sorry for being so long its just hard to explain http://pastebin.ca/1199390
[19:27] <openro1> Kinit : No resume image , doing normal boot ...
[19:27] <carandraug> unfo: indra only wants to know how to change channel/person window in irssi. Someone here have to be using that client
[19:27] <openro1> is my error
[19:27] <unfo> indra: there are lots of language channels.  to find out the name of any given language channel, say: !hr or !fr or !es or such, whatever the language code is.
[19:27] <chamunks> Scunizi, thats fair ill google around
[19:27] <bonez46> unfo: ubuntu 8.04 version....
[19:27] <Guest99927> Carandraug you said i can install linux without a disk right? but i have to be on Linux to do this?
[19:27] <javierg> Is there a reason why I don't see a shutdown or restart button when I try to log off? I uninstalled GDM so that I can have a terminal type login I don't know if that has anything to do it the shutdown and restart button not being shown
[19:27] <eduard> rorza did you have a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99126
[19:27] <unfo> carandraug: i didn't understand what indra was saying.
[19:27] <sys6x> Hi, I got a dell XPS M1530 laptop with a HDMI output, do I need a special configuration if I want it to work with my TVHD?  special drivers?
[19:27] <nicoleamy> can anybody help me please
[19:27] <nicoleamy> i can't download the flash plugin
[19:27] <laeg> does anybody know how i can set focus in a listbox when tab doesn't work? (no mouse)
[19:27] <garrettm> hello
[19:27] <eduard> RoRza: how much do you know of linux?
[19:27] <laeg> f10 jumps to the file menu
[19:27] <Kevin21> nicoleamy: did u try using terminal?
[19:27] <nicoleamy> i get this error message saying  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:28] <carandraug> unfo: hmm. Maybe that's because I'm not english too that I can understand english gibberish so well
[19:28] <Marik> салам
[19:28] <cheeky> carandraug:  spat back at me : vlc : no process killed
[19:28] <nicoleamy> kevin21: yes i did try using the terminal
[19:28] <garrettm> Does anyone here know about accessing Windows fileservers using SMB
[19:28] <garrettm> ?
[19:28] <unfo> !ru | Marik
[19:28] <indra> i don't know how read private message on irssi
[19:28] <nicoleamy> i just got that error message
[19:28] <darren_> Hi could some one plase help its driving me nuts, I have tried 3 usb wifi cards on my laptop and the 3 do not show signel strength, so I tried them on my girlfriends laptop and it shows up no problem,we have the same ubuntu installed and the same wifi drivers, I also have a buit in wifi and that shows up it just seems to be the the usb wifi s , also with the usb wifi I can connect no problem, its just I do not know which is best
[19:28] <darren_> as the colored bar does not show, I know I can try third party software but I like the built in network manager, sorry for being so long its just hard to explain http://pastebin.ca/1199390
[19:28] <carandraug> Guest99927: without a disk? You mean, without a CD drive?
[19:28] <Scunizi> indra: switching to a pm you have received in irssi can be done by ALT+ a number 1-9.. one of those will represent the PM window.
[19:28] <ricardoromao> nicoleamy, try killall dpkg process
[19:28] <Kevin21> nicoleamy: haha k i dunno then, i know less than you most likely :D
[19:29] <RoRza> eduard, : doesnt say anything about the one I asked you . . .
[19:29] <cloudy_nz> Hi all, can someone help me get rid of a sendmail message at startup?
[19:29] <carandraug> cheeky: see if vlc is running. Also, htop is a nice application for that
[19:29] <nicoleamy> ricardoromao: do i type sudo apt-get killall dpkg process?
[19:29] <indra> tnx
[19:29] <Guest99927> yea without the CD drive
[19:29] <Guest99927> im trying to put it on a tablet PC that doesnt have a CD drive
[19:29] <[CK]Davros> can anyone help get MIDI working? Have nforce integrated audio, midi adaptor possibly not working?
[19:29] <Pici> !aptfix | nicoleamy
[19:29] <ricardoromao> nicoleamy, just sudo killall dpkg
[19:30] <cloudy_nz> I have deleted and purged sendmail, but at startup I get a message "Fetching sendmail agent" for 2 minutes
[19:30] <carandraug> Guest99927: you can make a USB pen into a LiveUSB, and bbot from there, the same way you would with a CD
[19:30] <carandraug> Guest99927: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:30] <nicoleamy> sudo killall dpkg
[19:30] <nicoleamy> sorry
[19:30] <ricardoromao> :)
[19:30] <Guest99927> ok let me check that out
[19:30] <unfo> Doonz: bonez46: I do not know how to help your problems.
[19:30] <Kevin21> ﻿when i run sudo apt-file search alsaconf <----- nothing happens, it just returns to a new line. can anyone help??????
[19:31] <Phantomas>  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M is this command ok for making a low-level format?
[19:31] <nicoleamy> it says no process killed
[19:31] <Scunizi> Guest99927: my first thought is to google for "Ubuntu net install" which should give you some links on how to put a bootloader and minimal files on a usb stick that will allow you to boot to it and install from the net.. downloading packages as it goes.. much slower but dooable.
[19:31] <garrettm> Can anyone help with connecting to Windows fileservers?
[19:31] <carandraug> Guest99927: it says you can do it from within windows. I've checked it now. Good luck
[19:31] <ricardoromao> nicoleamy, are you use some kind of update manager like synaptic or update manager ?
[19:31] <erUSUL> Kevin21: what's the problem? no package on the ubuntu archive matches your query so nothing is returned... expected behavior
[19:32] <[eduard]> RoRza:  im not gonna make you happy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/129653
[19:32] <[eduard]>  
[19:32] <cloudy_nz> I have deleted and purged sendmail, but at startup I get a message "Fetching sendmail agent" for 2 minutes - can someone help me get rid of the message?
[19:32] <Guest99927> ok thx budd preciate your help
[19:33] <nicoleamy> i think i've press closed
[19:33] <Kevin21> erUSUL: i'm trying to get my sound working, someone suggested using alsaconf, i installed apt-file but not i'm having trouble
[19:33] <erUSUL> Kevin21: there is no alsaconf in ubuntu afaik ...
[19:33] <garrettm> Can anyone help with connecting to Windows fileservers?
[19:33] <victor_> does anyone know how can I strip the first N characters of a every line in a file using console?
[19:33] <Kevin21> erUSUL: damn nation
[19:34] <[eduard]> somebody here who can help me fix my wacom input device? my xorg.conf should be find, but the alsa input devices mentiond in server layout dont  work, while generic mouse, not mentioned works
[19:34] <erUSUL> Kevin21: asoundconf ? asoundconf-gtk ?
[19:34] <garrettm> victor_:  do a "man cut"; try cut -cN-
[19:34] <ricardoromao> victor_ , head -n
[19:34] <nicoleamy> how do i check whether i'm still using update manager or not
[19:34] <Kevin21> ill try
[19:34] <Scunizi> !wacom | [eduard]
[19:34] <openro1> Kinit : No resume image, doing normal boot, is my error msg. no gui help me out
[19:34] <laeg> does anybody know how i can set focus in a listbox when tab doesn't work? (no mouse)
[19:35] <bobbob1016> Is there any way I can get CNR(click n run)'s feature of "Login and get everything installed the same on each computer" feature?  As in CNR lets you simply sign in to another machine, and can install all the same apps you have on your other machines on the new machine.  I'm looking for an automated way to install basic apps, unattended.
[19:35] <Kasra[K]> hi all
[19:35] <ricardoromao> nicoleamy, do this in a console  ps -efwww | grep apt
[19:35] <john64> laeg, try the space bar and arrow keys
[19:35] <cloudy_nz> can the split command do that, victor?
[19:35] <noodlesgc> laeg try tab
[19:35] <victor_> thanks garrettm
[19:35] <unfo> laeg: enable MouseKeys accessibility feature.  I don't remember how though :(
[19:35] <laeg> noodlesgc: ya tab doesn't cut it :)
[19:35] <laeg> unfo: i'll google it
[19:35] <noodlesgc> laeg ctr+tab?
[19:35] <laeg> john64: will do ty
[19:35] <laeg> brb
[19:35] <ricardoromao> nicoleamy, and kill all ids
[19:35] <Kasra[K]> i want to invite ubottu to #ubuntu-ir-spam
[19:35] <garrettm> Can anyone help with connecting to Windows fileservers?
[19:35] <nicoleamy> what console ps - efwww | grep apt
[19:35] <Kasra[K]> can anyone send it?
[19:36] <Pici> Kasra[K]: join #ubuntu-irc please
[19:36] <unfo> laeg: it may not be called MouseKeys in linux.  Try the accessibility control panel.
[19:36] <Kasra[K]> Pici, thanx
[19:36] <Scunizi> [eduard]: here's a link to my xorg that work for my wacom graphire 4.. only the two buttons on the tablet don't function. otherwise it works.  http://pastebin.com/f5547d1ad
[19:36] <RoRza> there issue with this card
[19:36] <ricardoromao> garrettm, use samba
[19:36] <RoRza> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/43194
[19:36] <garrettm> thank you ricardoromao;  is there a GUI?
[19:36] <Dabbu1> vlc is not able to load .srt (subtitle file)...any help
[19:37] <john64> garrettm, are you using Gnome?
[19:37] <[CK]Davros> can anyone help get MIDI working? Have nforce integrated audio, midi adaptor possibly not working?
[19:37] <nicoleamy> why does it take a long time
[19:38] <[eduard]> Scunizi : thanks! mine almost looks the same, only InputDevice    "Configured Mouse" is missing from the ServerLayout (but the mouse does work and wacom doesnt work!!)
[19:38] <ricardoromao> garrettm, yes and no, the configs files are in text mode, but the access to shares is GUI
[19:38] <john64> laeg, if so go to the places menu then the 'connect to server', select 'Windows Share' then fill in the form as necessary.  By default samba doesn't have a client gui
[19:38] <garrettm> john64: not sure, just the default Ubuntu Desktop 8.0.4; how do you find out?
[19:38] <bonez46> if I have my router... and then put a hub behind it, on one of the lan ports...can I then plug other PC's into that hub.. and have them all network each other AND also have web/WAN access too?
[19:38] <Scunizi> [eduard]: my mouse isn't a usb but a ps2.. that might be the difference.
[19:38] <john64> you are using gnome then
[19:38] <nicoleamy> why does it take a long time to kill all the processes?
[19:39] <garrettm> @ricardoromao: how do you set up the config files?
[19:39] <[eduard]> Scunizi: i have the   Option        "USB"           "on" lines
[19:39] <Scunizi> bonez46: yes if your router provides DHCP which most all do.
[19:39] <bonez46> ok..
[19:39] <john64> garrettm, try the thing i suggested, it is MUCH easier to use and set up
[19:40] <ricardoromao> garrettm, I chnage the workgroup and the security, its easy, have a lot os examples on the config file
[19:40] <ricardoromao> nicoleamy, what is the output of command ps -efwww | grep apt ?
[19:40] <[eduard]> Scunizi strange thing is, no "Configured Mouse" in my "ServerLayout" , but i do have a working mouse
[19:40] <nicoleamy> ricardoramao: i don't think it is actually killing all the processes
[19:40] <nicoleamy> what?
[19:41] <laeg> john64, noodlesgc, unfo: combinations of ctrl, spacebar + tab worked, i'll check out samba accessibility cp, thanks guys
[19:41] <john64> laeg, np
[19:41] <niuq> how do i install php as apache mod?
[19:41] <Guest99927> CAn i use my PSP as a flash drive?
[19:42] <[eduard]> Scunizi, http://pastebin.com/m7437063
[19:42] <Scunizi> [eduard]: then don't mess with that section
[19:42] <nicoleamy> ricardoromao: i got a problem
[19:42] <ricardoromao> nicoleamy, what problem ?
[19:42] <john64> nicoleamy, i have many myself :P
[19:43] <[eduard]> Scunizi, sudo cat /dev/input/wacom also works
[19:43] <nicoleamy> ricardoromao: it says dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[19:43] <ricardoromao> nicoleamy, my crystal ball doesn't work anymore
[19:43] <ricardoromao> nicoleamy, so do that
[19:43] <limitedwisdom> I have a line in my apache2 config (PerlRequire "/my/scipt.pl" ). When i try to start apache it says "Invalid Command 'PerlRequire'. I'm running a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04 LAMP setup...
[19:43] <limitedwisdom> perl-v shows results.
[19:43] <limitedwisdom> any thoughts?
[19:43] <limitedwisdom> I'm a newbie - btw
[19:43] <FloodBot1> limitedwisdom: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <nicoleamy> ricardoromao: do what?
[19:44] <garrettm> @ricardoromao, john64:  thanks for your help
[19:44] <ricardoromao> nicoleamy, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:44] <nicoleamy> ok
[19:45] <john64> garrettm:  awesome (Y)
[19:45] <darksifer> hi guys
[19:45] <YuriQ> anyone a heavy emacs/lisp user here? since a few weeks ago, my lisp indentation is screwed up
[19:46] <kindofabuzz> lisps are funny
[19:46] <darksifer> am using ubuntu for the first time
[19:46] <darksifer> can someone help me with mplayer
[19:46] <Slokunshialgo> Jjust ask the question
[19:46] <Guest99927> does any 1 ere have a PSP?
[19:46] <nicoleamy> i got a psp
[19:47] <Slokunshialgo> Same
[19:47] <nicoleamy> whats wrong with your psp?
[19:47] <kindofabuzz> take it to #psp?
[19:47] <darksifer> movie is not appearing in full screen
[19:47] <nicoleamy> guest99927: whats wrong with your psp
[19:47] <nicoleamy> ?
[19:47] <darksifer> i get a white screen
[19:47] <nicoleamy> ricardoromao: i did what you told me to do
[19:47] <john64> darksifer, are you using Compiz?
[19:48] <ricardoromao> nicoleamy, and works ?
[19:48] <darksifer> u mean the effects
[19:48] <darksifer> yes
[19:48] <Gnea> nicoleamy: please read and wait before asking twice.
[19:48] <agoole> My vlc player never shuts down, I keeps playing movies after i close it...anyone offer help ?
[19:48] <darksifer> shud i turn it off
[19:48] <nicoleamy> not really
[19:48] <nicoleamy> i'm trying to get on a game nd it wont' let me
[19:48] <Gnea> darksifer: you're better off asking in #psp, this isn't a PSP support channel, unless you're trying to load ubuntu on it.
[19:48] <john64> darksifer, try turning off compiz and see if it still happens.  Intel GMA965 or X3100 by any chance?
[19:49] <Guest99927> ntohing is wrong with my PSP im trying to create a liveusb boot using my memory stick
[19:49] <Guest99927> and i was wundering if the psp stick is already set as a fat32
[19:49] <darksifer> no nvidia
[19:49] <john64> darksifer, hmmm,  odd
[19:49] <john64> is this with all media players?
[19:49] <Gnea> Guest99927: they usually are, but if you need to, you can always reformat it
[19:49] <darksifer> i will try turning off compiz
[19:49] <Guest99927> yea but how
[19:49] <Guest99927> i know you can format it in the psp itself
[19:50] <Gnea> darksifer: sorry, got ya confused for a sec
[19:50] <Guest99927> but im curiosuly would it be set as fat32 or fat16
[19:50] <Guest99927> cuz i need the fat32
[19:50] <_ApTyP_> D
[19:50] <Gnea> Guest99927: just plug it in and an icon should pop up on the desktop
[19:50] <nicoleamy> i'm having trouble with my psp
[19:50] <FBI> САЛАМ
[19:51] <_ApTyP_> ERICH:
[19:51] <nicoleamy> where can i find the broken package
[19:51] <darksifer> it didnt work
[19:51] <darksifer> now it shows me a black screen
[19:51] <Vladimir> on 8.04.1 is there a problem with connecting to WPA2 secured networks?
[19:51] <danielm_mc> anyone know how to automatically clean up emacs turds?
[19:51] <nicoleamy> it says that there is a broken package on the synaptic package manager?
[19:51] <Gnea> !ru | FBI
[19:51] <darksifer> i get fullscreen in vlc but not in mplayer
[19:51] <Gnea> Vladimir: sometimes, depending on the setup
[19:51] <skylar> darn, how to get flash-nonfree in hardy 32bit?
[19:52] <Gnea> darksifer: try adjusting your video settings in the mplayer config
[19:52] <Vladimir> hmm
[19:52] <skylar> new year, same question
[19:52] <Vladimir> i just can't get this damned wireless card to connect to my router
[19:52] <darksifer> which video codec family shud i use?
[19:52] <alkaliv2> skylar, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:52] <noodlesgc> skylar try ubuntu-restriced-extras
[19:52] <Gnea> !language | Vladimir
[19:53] <FBI> FloodBot1: пошел нахуи
[19:53] <Guest99927> ok i think its doing it now
[19:53] <jokkaa> Anyone in here that knows where to find som solid noob fluxbox help? im totaly lost...
[19:53] <Gnea> !wireless > Vladimir
[19:53] <Gnea> jokkaa: try googling for this:  ubuntu fluxbox
[19:53] <agoole> can anyone help me with vlc not shutting down ?
[19:53] <Gnea> jokkaa: you could add more, but we'll need to know what the problem is to help you out :)
[19:53] <jokkaa> Gnea, bin trying all day..
[19:54] <jokkaa> Gnea, well basicly i want to get a nice wallpaper, som auto startups and a system monitor on the desktop along with my terminal, lol
[19:54] <skylar> alkaliv2, I've done that
[19:54] <utonto> hi...
[19:54] <Gnea> jokkaa: have you tried #fluxbox?
[19:54] <skylar> anything else?
[19:54] <utonto> just a question
[19:54] <jokkaa> Gnea, i have not. thx
[19:54] <Gnea> !ask | utonto
[19:54] <Gnea> jokkaa: good luck
[19:54] <alkaliv2> skylar, an alternate method is to download the adobe flash installer for linux
[19:55] <jokkaa> Gnea, well needed
[19:55] <darksifer> guys, thank you. it worked out somehow
[19:55] <[CK]Davros> I can't get my nvidia nforce MIDI adaptor to work under ubuntu can anyone help?
[19:55] <utonto> is normal that ubuntu ibex doent have tty 1 -6?
[19:55] <alkaliv2> skylar, it will install to your home directory for you and you can use flash 10.  Thats what I have right now
[19:55] <noodlesgc> utonto #ubuntu+1 for ibex
[19:55] <john64> [CK]Davros, nvidia makes them?
[19:55] <unfo> !gq | [CK]Davros
[19:55] <unfo> [CK]Davros: :-)
[19:55] <utonto> thanks noodlesgc
[19:55] <nicoleamy> my psp firmware verion is3.51 and i ment to download the firmware 3.50 instead and now my psp is completely messed up and i want to play the games i downloaded
[19:56] <Vladimir> i wonder... would having WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES] enabled on my router be causing an issue?
[19:56] <nicoleamy> ahow do i downgrade my psp firmware
[19:56] <unfo> nicoleamy: that is off-topic
[19:56] <alkaliv2> I noticed that xmms has been replaced and it was my default for playing streamtuner streams.  Is there an alternative client?
[19:56] <unfo> nicoleamy: could you please find another channel that can help you?  :)  try #psp maybe?
[19:57] <[CK]Davros> john64, my sound card is integrated (part of the nforce motherboard) it has a "joystick" (MIDI) port
[19:57] <agoole> can anyone help me with vlc not shutting down? it keeps playing movies afterwards in ubuntu
[19:57] <unfo> alkaliv2: banshee and amarok are good alternative MP3 players to xmms.  I don't know what streamtuner is.
[19:57] <john64> [CK]Davros, oh right, cool.  sorry i can't help though
[19:57] <openro1> kinit: no resume image..doing normal boot
[19:57] <openro1> is my error msg
[19:57] <carandraug> alkaliv2: there's audacious. It's quite similar
[19:57] <openro1> help me to get the gui back
[19:57] <Gnea> alkaliv2, unfo: streamtuner is a frontend to internet radio streams
[19:58] <alkaliv2> carandraug, do you use streamtuner by chance?
[19:58] <Gnea> openro1: that's not an error, just a message.
[19:58] <carandraug> alkaliv2: but not sure about streamtuner though. Also, there's xmms2 but I never tried it myself
[19:59] <carandraug> alkaliv2: no
[19:59] <gidna> a
[19:59] <alkaliv2> carandraug, I just attempted to tackle xmms2 and it reminds me a lot of mpd with no frontend.  Audacious seemed incompatible with streamtuner.  Thank you for your help though
[19:59] <unfo> gidna: what is "a"?
[19:59] <openro1> but, when i boot in to my hardy, xserver doesnt start
[20:00] <openro1> startx doesnt work too
[20:00] <Slokunshialgo> openro1, does it give you any specific errors?
[20:00] <MarcoBXBRO1> what are the best advance book for ubuntu
[20:00] <Scunizi> alkaliv2: xmms2 isn't in the repo's anymore but a substitute is audacious
[20:00] <alkaliv2> openro1, did you do a standard ubuntu install or a minimal install
[20:00] <Slokunshialgo> openro1, have you edited your /etc/X11/xorg.conf at any point?
[20:01] <alkaliv2> Scunizi, is there a plugin for audacious to play streams or should it just be compatible like xmms was?
[20:01] <xhamahx> hello, i got stuck on low graphic mode, how can i get back to high graphic mode
[20:02] <Scunizi> alkaliv2: not really sure.. I believe that audacious is a fork of xmms so there should be plugins available.
[20:02] <alkaliv2> Scunizi, I'll check synaptic for any plugins.  Thanks
[20:02] <Smelne> i have aproblem with pure-ftpd none of my users can login
[20:02] <Guest49276> I'm having a problem with my video driver and screen resolution. I posted it at: http://forums.worldforgedev.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2220&p=3380&hilit=intel+chipset+video+driver#p3380
[20:02] <Scunizi> alkaliv2: http://audacious-media-player.org/index.php?title=Downloads
[20:02] <prkos> hi everyone, can anyone tell me where firefox profile is located?
[20:03] <unfo> prkos: why do you want to know?  do you have a firefox problem?  :)
[20:03] <unfo> we can help you with it.
[20:03] <prkos> I found the one under .mozilla/firefox but when I put my userChrome.css there it doesn't catch on
[20:03] <Guest49276> I can't load ubuntu in any resolution higher than 800 x 600
[20:03] <victor_> hey guys, is there an easy way to remove text of fileA from fileB?
[20:04] <noodlesgc> prkos ~/.mozilla
[20:04] <unfo> victor_: i don't understand the question fully, but I bet the answer is "not easily".
[20:04] <`Matir> Is anyone aware of a cross-platform photo organizer/tagger that can be used by multiple users across a network?
[20:04] <xhamahx> hello, i got stuck on low graphic mode, how can i get back to high graphic mode
[20:04] <hateball> victor_: clever usage of !cat and !grep and !sed should do it
[20:04] <agoole> grep is my guess
[20:05] <Smelne> i have aproblem with pure-ftpd none of my users can login
[20:05] <agoole> can anyone help me with vlc not shutting down? it keeps playing movies afterwards in ubuntu
[20:05] <unfo> Smelne: you may get a response quicker in channel #ubuntu-server
[20:05] <carandraug> xhamahx: did you upgrade to intrepid?
[20:05] <Samushka> what is the official channel for IBEX support/chat?
[20:05] <unfo> Samushka: see the topic :)
[20:05] <Smelne> thanks unfo
[20:05] <derekS> has anyone used a mac bluetooth keyboard with ubuntu on a normal pc?
[20:05] <noodlesgc> Samushka #ubuntu+1
[20:06] <carandraug> xhamahx: did anything that could trigger that? Install proprietary drivers for example
[20:06] <carandraug> Samushka: #ubuntu+1
[20:06] <Samushka> thx didnt notice.
[20:06] <xhamahx> carandraug, i did a update, and it got stuck and , i restart the laptop and it got low graphic mode
[20:07] <unfo> prkos: you PMed me can I help you here since it's loud.  The answer is no, sorry.  There are 3 reasons why.
[20:07] <carandraug> xhamahx: try updating again then. It may correct whatever's broken now
[20:07] <prkos> np, can you help here in the room then?
[20:07] <xhamahx> ok thanx carandraug
[20:08] <unfo> prkos: maybe.  Ask the whole room.
[20:08] <unfo> prkos: if I am an expert in your topic, I will try to help.
[20:08] <I0n> would it be better if i copied my forum post in here? I didn't want to spam the channel, but I'm not getting a response
[20:09] <WastePotato> pastebin
[20:09] <unfo> I0n: 1. it would be nice if you changed your nick to something easier to type than i, zero, n :)
[20:09] <I0n> Ion was taken
[20:09] <unfo> I0n: 2. summarize it in here.  50 words or less.
[20:09] <unfo> I0n: how about ion-
[20:09] <unfo> or ion`
[20:10] <Gnea> unfo: don't be lame.
[20:10] <unfo> ion-: thanks :)
[20:10] <rastafarix> Hello, how can I download code blocks, I mean is there any apt-get install command for code blocks, thank you very MUCH!
[20:10] <unfo> Gnea: what do you mean?  it is hard for me to type it.
[20:10] <prkos> I have userChrome.css that I've copied from my other comp, and I've put it in ~/.mozilla/firefox/blah.default/chrome but I don't see the changes in Firefox when I open it
[20:10] <Gnea> unfo: so? it's not hard for me to type, or anyone else, for that matter.
[20:10] <alkaliv2> Scunizi, turns out I wasn't patient enough with audacious. Waited a little longer and it started up :)
[20:11] <ion-> I'm on a Dell Dimension 4700 using an Intel Chipset video card. I tried to configure my video driver because ember was running very slow by running nvidia-xconfig, which had problems with my mouse and keyboard, then used ctrl-alt-backspace and I cannot load Ubuntu (v8.04) with any screen resolution higher than 800 x 600.
[20:11] <rastafarix> Do not ignore me please
[20:11] <Scunizi> alkaliv2: :)
[20:11] <rastafarix> Hello, how can I download code blocks, I mean is there any apt-get install command for code blocks, thank you very MUCH!
[20:11] <Gnea> !patience | rastafarix
[20:12] <unfo> Gnea: i rely heavily on tab completion.  that is why i personally prefer that people do not put numbers in the first 3 chars of their nicks.  it is up to them what to do of course, i do not set any rules
[20:12] <alkaliv2> rastafarix, this link should help you http://wiki.codeblocks.org/index.php?title=Installing_Code::Blocks_nightly_build_on_Ubuntu
[20:12] <unfo> alkaliv2: it's not in apt???
[20:12] <unfo> not even in universe?
[20:12] <alkaliv2> unfo, I did a package google search and thats what came up
[20:13] <sls_> I just called and tried to order a Lenovo with linux pre-installed, and was told that Lenovo no longer supports linux and that I would have to buy atleast Vista basic. Is that true? What a set back! What hae you heard?
[20:13] <Gnea> unfo: so do I, but that doesn't give me the right to tell someone that they need to change their nick because it's inconveniencing my typing style.
[20:13] <Gnea> unfo: so adapt and move on.
[20:13] <alkaliv2> rastafarix, if you have hardy heron I'd go with this link http://www.futuredesktop.org/codeblocks_on_ubuntu_8.04.html
[20:13] <unfo> Gnea: it was meant as merely a polite suggestion.  i guess you saw it as seeming rude how i wrote it?
[20:13] <Gnea> ion-: you can change it back, if you want. in fact, you should register it.
[20:14] <unfo> ion-: gnea is right
[20:14] <Gnea> unfo: the concept, itself, is rude.
[20:14] <ion-> gnea: can you point me in the right direction/
[20:14] <limitedwisdom> about to have a mental breakdown - it doesn't seem like perl is enabled by default in ubuntu 8.04 - the line PerlRequire is unknown in my apache2 config file. Can anyone help this newbie out? (apache won't start)
[20:15] <annoyed> anyone know how to make firefox not make me jump through 5 hoops to see a site with a self signed cert?
[20:15] <unfo> Gnea: ion-: how's this as a summary? "You can make your nick be whatever you want.  if you avoid numbers in the first 3 chars of your nick, it will make it easier for unfo to help you. But feel free to do whatever you want."
[20:15] <Gnea> ion-: /nick I0n, then /msg nickserv help
[20:15] <Vladimir24> I hate wireless networking on this
[20:15] <annoyed> I can't find an about:config setting... am I missing it? or does it not exist?
[20:15] <unfo> annoyed: maybe you can right-click and add it?  I dunno
[20:15] <ion-> unfo: i take no offense, i'm actually glad to learn that having numbers in the first three letters of a name can cause problems
[20:16] <Gnea> ion-: it usually doesn't cause problems :)
[20:16] <unfo> only for me.
[20:16] <annoyed> unfo: nah... it takes 4 or 5 steps regardless.... no amount of right clicking fixes this ;)
[20:16] <unfo> annoyed: no, right-click inside about:config settings list and go "New"
[20:16] <unfo> does that work?
[20:17] <ion-> gnea: so how do i change my video settings back? do you want the steps i took to get here?
[20:17] <annoyed> unfo: ah, I can see all the settings, none of them seem to pertain to my problem though... (no "allow self signed certs" setting or anything)
[20:17] <Gnea> ion-: sure
[20:17] <unfo> annoyed: dunno.  Maybe try server irc.mozilla.org channel #firefox
[20:18] <unfo> maybe what you want is impossible though.
[20:18] <tavl_> anyone knows why i can use X11 fwd (through ssh), when logging as root, but get an "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication" when trying with another user?
[20:18] <prkos> I have userChrome.css that I've copied from my other comp, and I've put it in ~/.mozilla/firefox/blah.default/chrome but I don't see the changes in Firefox when I open it
[20:18] <annoyed> unfo: lame...  I guess I can d/l the source and try "fixing" it myself... lol perhaps a fork is in order
[20:19] <unfo> ion-: as for your Xorg question, i have no idea. :( maybe try asking again in channel?
[20:19] <alkaliv2> tavl_, does the user have the correct permission for the user?
[20:20] <unfo> annoyed: there is an excellent reason why the new default is as it is.
[20:20] <alkaliv2> tavl_, sorry, I mean does the user have the permission to access X11
[20:20] <tavl_> alkaliv2: i dont know... i think this is the problem, but i dont know where to check for it
[20:20] <energY> How to make wubi a real install?
[20:21] <alkaliv2> tavl_, did you build the user when you installed ubuntu or did you add the user afterwards with the program adduser or something?
[20:21] <unfo> energY: did you check the wubi website for the answer first? :)
[20:21] <ion-> gnea: sudo nvidia-xconfig, which came up with an error in /etc/X11/xorg.conf "CorePointer device and CoreKeyboard device not found" then restarted and Ubuntu will not load higher than 800 x 600 res
[20:21] <tavl_> alkaliv2: if the question is if the user can access the X11, as running any graphical application, locally, yes, it can...
[20:21] <Gnea> energY: it's not meant to be - but you can download an ubuntu .iso and install that
[20:21] <alkaliv2> tavl_, then unfortunately you've left my league
[20:21] <alkaliv2> sorry
[20:21] <unfo> Gnea: i hear it is possible using LVPM
[20:21] <tavl_> alkaliv2: i added it later
[20:21] <energY> unfo: I have installed wubi. I need a real install. And the wubi install is what I have to deal with. My cd-rom wont boot
[20:22] <Gnea> ion-: o.O ouch... have you tried reconfiguring X?
[20:22] <Vagilinux> can i share a printer on ubuntu with a windows network?
[20:22] <alkaliv2> tavl_, you may need to add the user to the appropriate groups to access it
[20:22] <unfo> energY: did you check the wubi website and its FAQ for your answer? :)
[20:22] <unfo> Vagilinux: yes.
[20:22] <unfo> I dunno how.
[20:22] <energY> unfo: Link?
[20:22] <Vagilinux> unfo: thx
[20:22] <unfo> energY: i am a volunteer.  Please search google :)
[20:22] <ion-> gnea: ive looked at the config and my video driver is set to nvidia, and I should be using an Intel Chipset
[20:23] <InHisName> I messed with installing nvidia driver and ended with this error. "I could not start your session and so I have started the failsafe xterm session"  I have uninstalled the nvidia, but the error is still there during boot. How do i fix?
[20:23] <Gnea> energY: i stand corrected: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[20:23] <alkaliv2> ion-, I'm new to your issue but do you have a nvidia card in your computer?
[20:23] <HCIS_Helpdesk> OH MY GOD HOW DO I DO THAT THING THAT I WANT TO DO ???
[20:23] <ion-> alkaliv2: no I don't that was my mistake
[20:23] <Gnea> !caps | HCIS_Helpdesk
[20:24] <unfo> !gq | HCIS_Helpdesk
[20:24] <alkaliv2> InHisName, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and in the drivers section change the driver to say "nv"
[20:24] <unfo> annoyed: basically, when Alice uses encryption to send a message to Bob, that usually makes sure only Bob can read it.  but if Bob uses a self-signed cert, then Alice doesn't know if Bob is the real Bob or an imposter.  But self-signed certs cause newbie users to see a lock.  So they think it's guaranteed they are talking to Bob.  Bad.  Makes sense?
[20:24] <unfo> annoyed: was my message clipped in the middle?
[20:24] <Gnea> ion-: that's odd, what does lspci | grep VGA  return?
[20:24] <ion-> alkaliv2: ok i'll try that
[20:24] <InHisName> Ok, I'll try that, alkaliv2
[20:24] <alkaliv2> ion-, so you need it to load the intel driver is what you're saying from console?
[20:25] <ion-> alkaliv2: yes
[20:25] <alkaliv2> ion-, lol don't put nv in there then.  It's for nvidia cards
[20:25] <prkos> I started Firefox profile manager but I don't see any profiles there, no default, could that be connected to the userChrome.css issue?
[20:25] <unfo> prkos: yes.  You need expert help
[20:25] <annoyed> unfo: I'm not really concerned about any of that honestly.  It's more a matter of "this should be optional"
[20:25] <unfo> prkos:  I am not an expert.  I recommend irc.mozilla.org #firefox
[20:26] <ion-> alkaliv2: is there some easy diagnotic tool that will reconfigure to the correct driver?
[20:26] <annoyed> unfo: I  mean, I get it, don't get me wrong.  I'm a developer, I do encryption software... I don't need a nanny though
[20:26] <alkaliv2> ion-, run lspci from console and I
[20:26] <alkaliv2> ion-, will help you figure out what driver to put in xorg.conf
[20:26] <unfo> annoyed: but then some well-meaning "experts" will set their grandparents' PCs to accept self-signed certs as gold
[20:26] <annoyed> unfo: that's their business
[20:26] <unfo> annoyed: that actually hurts the grandparents.
[20:26] <energY> It says nothing about it in the wubi fa
[20:26] <energY> q
[20:27] <unfo> oops ageism s/grandparents/newbie friends/g
[20:27] <ion-> alkaliv2: ok theres a lot of info
[20:27] <unfo> sorry.
[20:27] <annoyed> unfo: sorry, freedom is far more important than security
[20:27] <annoyed> unfo: always has been
[20:27] <annoyed> unfo: always will be
[20:27] <prkos> unfo thanx, ill ask there, i thought it might be ubuntu specific as FX is special for ubuntu
[20:27] <unfo> annoyed: that is why firefox lets you fork it :)
[20:27] <MarcoBXBRO1> where do you select 4.1.1 in your current session
[20:27] <unfo> prkos: hmmm
[20:27] <annoyed> unfo: yep... or use opera ;)
[20:27] <unfo> prkos: try there first.  If they send you back here, ask here instead.  But they may be able to help you
[20:28] <ion-> alkaliv2: what do you want from the lspci?
[20:28] <prkos> thanx i will
[20:28] <unfo> prkos: to help you faster.
[20:28] <Gnea> annoyed: right, which is why it's better to leave your door wide open at night so that the known armed thief down the street can walk in and rob you :)
[20:28] <neeto> So I want to play me some spore, and unfortunately it doesn't look like directX is gonna wanna install on wine, so I have to get some sort of windows partition. I have an extra harddrive on which I will install the new OS, because I don't wanna screw with any of my pre-existing partitions, but the problem I see with this is that windows will probably overwrite GRUB. How do I get GRUB back?
[20:28] <alkaliv2> ion-, just the intel readout that mentions graphics
[20:28] <terror_> кто то говорит по русски...
[20:28] <unfo> neeto: wine comes with directx built in.  see channel #winehq for more
[20:28] <terror_> ??
[20:28] <unfo> !ru | terror_
[20:28] <alkaliv2> ion-, like 945i or something
[20:28] <Pici> !ru | terror_
[20:28] <unfo> terror: ok?
[20:28] <Pici> !grub > neeto
[20:28] <terror_> ок
[20:28] <noodlesgc> neeto what you could do is just set up a virtual machine
[20:29] <terror_> ))))
[20:29] <unfo> funny how terror_'s "ok" showed up in cyrillic small caps :)
[20:30] <ion-> alkaliv2: lspci gives me host bridge, pci bridge, vga compatable controller, display controller, pci bridge, usb controllers, multimedia audio controllers...
[20:30] <alkaliv2> ion-, I googled the driver.  Try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and in the drivers section put in "intel" save, exit, and restart X
[20:30] <ion-> alkaliv2: ok great i'll try that
[20:31] <alkaliv2> I've had more problems with my nvidia card than I even care to talk about
[20:32] <ph0rensic> alkaliv2: never had any problems with nvidia
[20:33] <solvanora> hi, my ubuntu is behaving like windont today. I installed Enemy Territory (OpenGL game) today, but upon restart ubuntu freezes and keeps frozen. I used the install quide from the ubuntu quide. Anyone experienced similair problems?
[20:33] <alkaliv2> ph0rensic, I think it's just because I picked an rare agp card so I have to get a custom kernel installed and such
[20:33] <unfo> solvanora: the word "freezes" in your question does not tell us enough.
[20:33] <solvanora> ok
[20:33] <ph0rensic> solvanora: I had sound issues with enemy territory but no freezing issues
[20:33] <solvanora> sound didnt work either
[20:33] <solvanora> before i restarted ubuntu
[20:33] <ph0rensic> alkaliv2: are you serious? what card is it?
[20:34] <unfo> solvanora: and "sound didn't work either" doesn't tell us enough either :)
[20:34] <alkaliv2> ph0rensic, 7800 GS.  Any driver later than 100.14.19 loads me to a black screen.  I gave up and compiled a 2.6.22 and installed the drivers
[20:34] <st3ph> i need help
[20:34] <solvanora> it freezes just before the date, network manager and similiar additional programs load
[20:34] <unfo> !gq > st3ph
[20:34] <funkyfly> How can I check what local ip I have in Ubuntu?
[20:35] <solvanora> @unfo, sound is not the least of my problems
[20:35] <solvanora> my ubuntu is now useless, who cares about the game :D
[20:35] <alkaliv2> lol
[20:35] <unfo> solvanora: i am sure the freezing is.  but if you tell the channel "it freezes" we can't help you.
[20:35] <unfo> :)
[20:35] <st3ph> lol
[20:35] <unfo> we need more info.
[20:35] <jareth_> funkyfly: /sbin/ifconfig
[20:35] <XtremeGreat> is that bug, which didn't allow mounting of nikon cameras been resolved?
[20:35] <Siph0n> funkyfly, ifconfig
[20:35] <st3ph> yeah i betr
[20:35] <unfo> st3ph: you better what?
[20:35] <funkyfly> ty! ;)
[20:36] <unfo> :)
[20:36] <st3ph> ok i dowloaded skype but im not able to call anyone
[20:36] <solvanora> dont know how to provide more info, other than elaborate more on when it freezes
[20:36] <DreamLnr> hello
[20:36] <alkaliv2> solvanora, can you ctrl+alt+backspace?
[20:36] <unfo> solvanora: that would help us
[20:36] <XtremeGreat> Oh shit trouble in the building...
[20:36] <solvanora> what is ctrl alt backspace?
[20:36] <unfo> DreamLnr: no need to say hello, just start typing :)
[20:36]  * solvanora complete newbee to linux
[20:36] <AliTabuger7> ctl alt backspace kills X
[20:36] <Gnea> solvanora: pressing the ctrl, alt and backspace keys together
[20:36] <alkaliv2> solvanora, it basically resets the X portion of ubuntu back to the command line
[20:36] <ph0rensic> alkaliv2: I think my last card was a 7800 I dunno if it was gs or not.. but yes on agp and i had no issues
[20:36] <solvanora> similiar to ctrl alt del for windows?
[20:37] <patrick> hey guys
[20:37] <AliTabuger7> no
[20:37] <AliTabuger7> its more like an ultra fast restart
[20:37] <patrick> how do you set up a boot option in window vista
[20:37] <zapalony> Hello
[20:37] <alkaliv2> ph0rensic, I sir, am envious of you.  I'm going to build a new computer soon enough.  7 years it's time to let go I guess
[20:37] <ph0rensic> solvanora: not really ctrl-alt-del in windows brings up the task manager and you can restart from there
[20:37] <st3ph> anyonre knows how i configure my headset on ubuntu or on skype
[20:37] <solvanora> mmmh
[20:37] <unfo> Guest57021: zapalony: no need to say hello, just start typing :)
[20:37] <zapalony> Anyone who knows about kernel modules on Ubuntu? I'd appreciate some info
[20:37] <funkyfly> I run Ubuntu in virtualbox. wichever network I put it on, it gives me local ip 10.0.2.15. Is there a way I can change it?
[20:37] <ph0rensic> solvanora: kiling X only restarts the dekstop session if you will
[20:37] <DreamLnr> i have a problem with my scanner. i start xsane, it starts searching for devices and suddenly throws an error "failed to open device v4l:/dev/video0 :invalid argument"
[20:38] <alkaliv2> zapalony, what module are you wondering about?
[20:38] <DreamLnr> how can i bypass that?
[20:38] <Gnea> solvanora: halfway - ctrl-alt-del is intended to restart/reboot the whole computer. killing X only kills the GUI, allowing it to restart without restarting the whole computer (this is why linux > windows - it doesn't tie the kernel and GUI into 100% reliance on each other)
[20:38] <unfo> zapalony: what are you really trying to do?
[20:38] <unfo> :)
[20:38] <DreamLnr> video0 is a builtin camera on a pc
[20:38] <solvanora> ok
[20:38] <solvanora> i understand
[20:38] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I have restarted with changing the driver "xx" to "nv", but the error still was there during reboot.  My screen is the requested resolution when starting $gnome-session to get a desktop to continue.  I can pastebin the xorg.conf file if it will help.
[20:38] <Guest57021> i got a question about booting from a USB
[20:38] <Guest57021> i just created a live USB ubuntu installer
[20:38] <alkaliv2> InHisName, send me the link to the pastebin
[20:38] <unfo> Guest57021: please ask us your entire question on one long line.
[20:38] <solvanora> but this doesnt fix the problem of freezing, i suspect it to just freeze again and again on the same spot
[20:38] <ph0rensic> alkaliv2: Yah I just got a new one within 2 months so I know the feeling! Use the old one as a file server or something useful
[20:39] <Guest57021> im in the boot option now ( F10) but i dont know how to make it read the USB
[20:39] <Guest57021> can any 1 helo nme
[20:39] <Gnea> Guest57021: helo
[20:39] <ph0rensic> Guest57021: Which boot option grub or in cmos?
[20:39] <energY> Can grub read fat32?
[20:39] <unfo> energY: yes
[20:39] <alkaliv2> InHisName, also if you could post your /var/log/xorg.0.log
[20:39] <Gnea> Guest57021: select a USB option to boot from
[20:40] <energY> unfo: So if I change the wubi boot location to usb it will boot fine?
[20:40] <funkyfly> I run Ubuntu in virtualbox. wichever network I put it on, it gives me local ip 10.0.2.15. Is there a way I can change it? (Im a Ubuntu nub)
[20:40] <zapalony> unfo: Get Acer Crystal Eye webcam to work
[20:40] <tarelerulz2> Do any of you do trascoding   a lot ?  If so what do you use ?
[20:40] <Gnea> funkyfly: that's a virtualbox configuration issue
[20:40] <energY> tarelerulz2: vlc
[20:40] <ph0rensic> Guest57021: Also keep in mind some bios versions do not allow for booting to USB, or you may need to upgrade your bios to enable this feature.. check to make sure that the if you do have that option the usb drive is showing up in your drive list
[20:40] <Gnea> !vbox | funkyfly
[20:40] <zapalony> unfo: Can we priv please, not going to take you much time.
[20:40] <unfo> energY: i dunno, sorry
[20:40] <unfo> !pm | zapalony
[20:41] <unfo> zapalony: no, i don't pm, sorry :)
[20:41] <energY> unfo: You think it is probable?
[20:41] <zapalony> unfo: Ok, you're right
[20:41] <unfo> energY: i've never used wubi so i dunno
[20:41] <Guest57021> im in CSMOS
[20:41] <Krauss> Yeesh, I wondered why it seemed like Ubuntu was running slow
[20:41] <Krauss> My RAM is deathly low.
[20:42] <solvanora> i also sudo apt-get install esound, besides enemy territory
[20:42] <zapalony> unfo: My problem is that the uvcvideo driv conflicts with "ehci_hcd"
[20:42] <Guest57021> damn this sucks
[20:42] <solvanora> esound known to cause troubles?
[20:42] <ph0rensic> Guest57021: Did you see if your bios allows usb booting?
[20:42] <alkaliv2> zapalony, ehci_hcd is your usb port drivers
[20:42] <tarelerulz2> VLC, is ok for transcoding ,but it don't seem to work for converting stuff to .wmv  very well .  Do any transcoding tool support .wmv well
[20:42] <Krauss> Is there anyway to change the RAM in a laptop? I always thought this would be forbidden, somehow.
[20:42] <Guest57021> no it doesnt
[20:42] <unfo> zapalony: i don't use webcams, sorry, ask the whole channel.
[20:42] <Guest57021> actually im using the PSP memeory stick as a USB drive would that matter
[20:42] <ph0rensic> Krauss: Yes you can change RAM in a laptop
[20:43] <unfo> Krauss: yes, you'll need a screwdriver.  See the printed or PDF instruction manual that came with your laptop.
[20:43] <Guest78271> alkaliv2: still not working, i tried to use the configure video at startup and set vga to intel and still nothing
[20:43] <Krauss> Righto.
[20:43] <InHisName> alkaliv2: here is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/mfbe1ef7   "error" default to safe mode.
[20:43] <AliTabuger7> It is easy to add ram in laptop, it is one of the few things you can add.
[20:43] <Krauss> If I stil have that. This is 3 years old
[20:43] <zipper> I just downloaded the kernel source from the repos, but i get a lot of "wierd" errors in scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/ when i run 'make menuconfig' . Any ideas what could be wrong? I have 'build-essential'
[20:43] <DreamLnr> i have a problem with my scanner. i start xsane, it starts searching for devices and suddenly throws an error "failed to open device v4l:/dev/video0 :invalid argument". how can i fix that? video0 is my builtin webcam
[20:44] <unfo> Krauss: or bring the laptop to a store, they will show you where the screw in question lies
[20:44] <unfo> i think
[20:44] <zapalony> alkaliv2: Sorry, if I disable it?
[20:44] <Krauss> unfo: Thanks a million
[20:44] <Guest57021> wait i see
[20:44] <alkaliv2> Guest78271, are you using an X server right now?
[20:44] <Guest57021> it now
[20:44] <jareth_> zipper: you read the wiki about kernel compiling?
[20:44] <unfo> Krauss: welcome.
[20:44] <Guest57021> i found the boot from USB option
[20:44] <zipper> jareth_: didnt realize there was one, seeing how ubuntu is "mainstream". I'll get right on it, thanks
[20:45] <ph0rensic> Guest57021: OR you could always just install ubuntu :-)
[20:45] <zipper> i guess most users wouldnt compile their own kernel
[20:45] <alkaliv2> zapalony, well if you disable ehci_hcd you'll turn off your ability to access your usb ports not only via hotplug but altogether
[20:45] <solexious> [Q] Im looking for a non interactive comandline mail client that doesnt need sendmail
[20:45] <Guest57021> phorensic that link does not work
[20:45] <Guest57021> you mean download it an install it without a CD?
[20:45] <alkaliv2> zapalony, there is a way to remove the module and see if it fixes the problem but it's not a great idea
[20:45] <ion-> alkaliv2: i believe so
[20:45] <a-9> May someone tell something about what happens here that I am not able to download this theme ?
[20:45] <ph0rensic> Guest57021: Oh you cant burn a cd?
[20:45] <a-9> http://ubuntu.hamdi.web.id/themes/complete-green-theme-pack.html
[20:46] <Guest57021> no i have no CD DRIVE
[20:46] <ion-> alkaliv2: gnome
[20:46] <WastePotato> o_0
[20:46] <gamedev> hmm
[20:46] <WastePotato> No CD Drive?
[20:46] <alkaliv2> ion-, yea you're graphical.  what is the resolution right now?
[20:46] <zapalony> alkaliv2: Hmm. There's another driver "ohci" still running. Is "ehci" so necessary?
[20:46] <SpeCon> proftp is installed on my system (how can i remove this from my server)
[20:46] <ion-> alkaliv2: 800 x 600
[20:46] <unfo> Guest57021: the easiest thing to do is to buy a cd drive.  they are not that expensive.  There are other options too, though: type !install and press Enter to see them
[20:46] <unfo> Guest57021: then the IRC bot will answer you.
[20:46] <alkaliv2> zapalony, I'm not the end all be all of this knowledge but I think one is for usb speeds 1.1 and the other is speed 2.0
[20:47] <ion-> alkaliv2: lspci shows my vga and display as Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller
[20:47] <alkaliv2> zapalony, as to which is which, you'd have to google it
[20:47] <Denise> someone knows why I cant make my firewall  start at booting?
[20:47] <alkaliv2> ion-, that's what I was looking for. Give me a second to google
[20:47] <TrailWhisperer> I have 2 partitions at /media/disk-1 and /media/disk-2 from another distros installation that I'd like to be shown on the desktop at login. How would I do this. If I click on them in Nautilus, they appear on the desktop, but not initially.
[20:47] <alkaliv2> InHisName, did you post your xorg.0.log file yet to pastebin?
[20:47] <choco72> ma4way.net
[20:47] <unfo> choco72: are you a bot?
[20:47] <mkquist> anyone know how to change the audio output device for web media, like u-tube and such...  I have two sound cards
[20:48] <ph0rensic> a-9: Im getting a timeout on that
[20:48] <pisecx> Hi, is it possible to fix bug with "Human-Murrine" on beta?
[20:48] <Guest57021> !install
[20:48] <unfo> pisecx: what is your first language?
[20:48] <solvanora> is libgtk1.2 known to cause troubles with freezing ubuntu?
[20:48] <ph0rensic> a-9: have you tried looking at gnome-loog.org ?
[20:48] <Guest57021> well look i see the USB drive
[20:48] <Winston_SmithVT> SpeCon, Did you install using the package manager?
[20:48] <Guest57021> but how do i set it up to boot from it
[20:48] <jarlo> I'm unable to update server: Break in  dependencies caused by "Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:48] <jarlo> mysql-server-5.0_5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.3_i386.deb"
[20:48] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I will soon.
[20:48] <pisecx> unfo: russian
[20:48] <alkaliv2> ok
[20:48] <a-9> ph0rensic: Hmm. Let me take a look.
[20:48] <SpeCon> its on my debian server
[20:48] <zipper> jareth_ (and others), if i just need to re-build some modules with a patch applied, is the headers enough? To be honest, i'm not sure what the headers contain
[20:48] <zapalony> alkaliv2: I will. thanks anyway.
[20:48] <ion-> alkaliv2: here is my xconf, http://pastebin.com/me44d9e8
[20:49] <SpeCon> but im ubuntu user at home so i hope you want to help me
[20:49] <unfo> pisecx: did you know about #ubuntu-ru ? you may want to try them first, if they don't help you, try here
[20:49] <SpeCon> my server runs debian 4.0
[20:49] <pisecx> unfo: does it matter?
[20:49] <ph0rensic> Guest57021: You have to put the usb drive as the first bootpriority (or second as long as it comes before the HDD)
[20:49] <Ab3L> good night
[20:49] <pisecx> unfo: yes I know about ubuntu-ru. they know nothing about this problem, so I decided to ask here
[20:49] <unfo> pisecx: it doesn't matter, but your question was hard to understand.
[20:49] <Winston_SmithVT> SpeCon, I'll try i'm pretty green
[20:49] <unfo> pisecx: can you explain your question better?
[20:50] <pisecx> unfo: sorry, I thought it's a know issue on a 8.10 better
[20:50] <Guest57021> its USB hard drive right
[20:50] <unfo> pisecx: what ubuntu are you using, what did you do, what happened, what did you expect should happen
[20:50] <Guest57021> because thers USB DISKEET
[20:50] <alkaliv2> ion-, did you change the driver back to i810 or did it do that itself?
[20:50] <pisecx> unfo http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-8-10-Alpha-4-Screenshot-Tour-91907.shtml here is the description of new ubuntu 8.10 and they say about a bug with gnome look. I have the same, but has not found how to fix it.
[20:50] <unfo> pisecx: you are on intrepid?
[20:50] <pisecx> unfo yes
[20:50] <unfo> pisecx: see #ubuntu+1
[20:51] <unfo> we don't handle intrepid here :)
[20:51] <ion-> alkaliv2: when i started ubuntu a window poped up that says it can only run in low-video mode so I tried to configure the vga to intel
[20:51] <pisecx> g, thanks a lot, man! =)
[20:51] <zapalony> alkaliv2: You're right, ehci is 2.2 USB speed, while OHCI supports 1.1, but is open.
[20:51] <unfo> pisecx: no problem.  btw some free advice: you should use hardy instead, it works better for now :)
[20:51] <alkaliv2> ion-, got your solution right here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:51] <alkaliv2> ion-, your part is under the i810 driver section
[20:52] <pisecx> unfo, yes, I know, I use it. But I wanted to test a beta and install it on vmware machine
[20:52] <agoole> can anyone help me with vlc not shutting down? it keeps playing movies afterwards in ubuntu
[20:52] <alkaliv2> zapalony, I compiled a couple of kernels that needed both for my motherboard so I assumed that was the difference
[20:52] <st3ph> brb
[20:52] <Gnea> agoole: try the ESC key
[20:52] <unfo> pisecx: as you have seen, it still has bugs and is not ready for general public yet :)
[20:53] <agoole> Gnea: I tried it, but after the window closes, another one pops up, on its own, and keeps playing the next video in the playlist,
[20:53] <pisecx> unfo: yeah, you're right.. but october will come soon
[20:53] <agoole> Gnea: and if I close that, I can still hear the sound of the next video but no video
[20:53] <pisecx> unfo: I hope it will be ready
[20:53] <Gnea> agoole: how did u launch vlc? from terminal?
[20:53] <agoole> Gnea: i tried both terminal and just using the menu
[20:54] <zapalony> alkaliv2: I'm not really good at compiling, I'm going to disable "ehci" temporaily to let the webcam works, so I can think how to play around with this
[20:54] <alkaliv2> zapalony, I highly do not recommend this, but if you rmmod ehci_hcd you could see if that clears it up, but you will not have access to your usb modules until you modprobe it again
[20:54] <Gnea> agoole: try this in a terminal: killall -9 vlc
[20:54] <Winston_SmithVT> SpeCon, Sorry not to sure, it all depends on how you it was installed. You may beable to remove it by running sudo rpm -e proftpd that or removing it with the package manage sudo apt-get remove proftpd
[20:54] <unfo> pisecx: it will be ready when it's ready.
[20:54] <alkaliv2> InHisName, what kind of nvidia card do you have?
[20:54] <alkaliv2> InHisName, cause your board name says vesa
[20:54] <agoole> Gnea: ok that worked, but am I going to have to do it every time ? vlc always does this, cna't seem to fix it
[20:54] <pisecx> unfo: well, I'm software developer and can understand it =0
[20:54] <pisecx> =)
[20:55] <unfo> Winston_SmithVT: what do you mean "rpm"?
[20:55] <pisecx> unfo: all i want is the warkarround to fix this issue
[20:55] <coty91> I seem to have a bit of a problem with flash videos in firefox. When im on a site like youtube or msnbc and am watching something after awhile it seems to glitch out all over the screen and freeze my pc for a min or so then continues on. Anyone have some suggestions on how to fix this?
[20:55] <wat> What do I need if I want my linux computer to host a bunch of music and video files, that I can watch or stream? from my windows pc?
[20:55] <Gnea> agoole: well it depends on how you're using it - you said it's going from one video to another - you might want to try opening only one video file at a time instead of a whole bunch
[20:55] <w8tah> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[20:55] <w8tah> as i am trying to start my snort server -- i am getting the following error during boot up :
[20:55] <mikebot> Does anyone know how I can load a .sub in the VLC player?
[20:56] <agoole> Gnea: but then vlc loops back to the start of the one vid :S , its like its toying with me
[20:56] <zapalony> alkaliv2: Yeah, I know what I hope is to have only 2.2 disabled.
[20:56] <unfo> mikebot: try channel #videolan
[20:56] <w8tah> as i am trying to start my snort server -- i am getting the following error during boot up  eth0: error while getting interface flags, no such device -- how do i remedy this?
[20:56] <alkaliv2> zapalony, you're a braver man than me.  Good luck
[20:56] <Lunar_Lamp> My machine crashed requiring a power-button restart.  Where can I find the logs from last time to see what went wrong?
[20:56] <mikebot> unfo: Thanks
[20:56] <wat> What do I need if I want my linux computer to host a bunch of music and video files, that I can watch or stream? from my windows pc?
[20:56] <strategy> Lunar_Lamp, most logs are in /var/
[20:56] <alkaliv2> Lunar_Lamp, /var/log/
[20:56] <ph0rensic> wat: you want like a shared folder on ubuntu???
[20:56] <strategy> Lunar_Lamp, if you can get a GUI up, system -> administration -> system logs
[20:56] <agoole> Gnea: bah, maybe i'll ban vlc altogether
[20:57] <agoole> Gnea: thanks for the help
[20:57] <DreamLnr> will somebody help me?
[20:57] <Gnea> agoole: that's weird, i've never had that problem
[20:57] <Gnea> gah
[20:57] <strategy> DreamLnr, ?
[20:57] <wat> I guess, im not 100% sure what I want, but I want my linux computer to have a bunch of music and videos and I want to be able to watch them on windows
[20:57] <alkaliv2> vlc is my hero
[20:57] <DreamLnr> i have a problem with my scanner. i start xsane, it starts searching for devices and suddenly throws an error "failed to open device v4l:/dev/video0 :invalid argument". how can i fix that? video0 is my builtin webcam
[20:57] <wat> would a shared folder accomplish that? or should I look into a file server of some sort?
[20:57] <strategy> DreamLnr, no idea sorry
[20:57] <jareth_> wat: i use mediatomb for streaming my mp3's
[20:57] <prkos> unfo: the problem with userChrome was in Ubuntu Firefox Modifications addon, when I disable it my settings are recognized. Where can I get help about that addon?
[20:57] <strategy> wat, you'd want samba or a webserver
[20:57] <zapalony> alkaliv2: Disabled. "Lsusb" still shows up all the devices
[20:57] <DreamLnr> so maybe you know how to disable that damn webcam on hp pavillion?
[20:58] <strategy> wat, or an ftp server
[20:58] <wat> thx
[20:58] <wat> k
[20:58] <alkaliv2> zapalony, lsusb is the utilities for messing with the usb ports
[20:58] <unfo> prkos: what is Ubuntu Firefox Modifications addon?  I have never heard of it.
[20:58] <strategy> wat, you can just type `httpd start' at a terminal and you have a webserver up and running
[20:58] <wat> so if I had an ftp server, would I have to DL the file before I could watch it on my windows pc?
[20:58] <wat> i want all of this done over the network etc
[20:58] <zapalony> alkaliv2: with so?
[20:58] <alkaliv2> zapalony, if you want the module closed you have to sudo rmmod ehci_hcd
[20:58] <unfo> wat: you want file sharing.
[20:58] <strategy> then go to http://your.ip.address/ in any browser
[20:58] <strategy> and bingo!
[20:58] <prkos> unfo: it came by default on ubuntu 8
[20:58] <unfo> wat: but I don't know how to do file sharing
[20:58] <zapalony> alkaliv2: That's what I did.
[20:59] <kbrosnan> unfo: it is something Ubuntu adds to firefox, tools -> addons -> extensions
[20:59] <wat> ya me neither
[20:59] <unfo> kbrosnan: prkos: ah i see.
[20:59] <prkos> its apt support for Fx extensions and plugins
[20:59] <Gnea> wat: samba would probably be best (it allows you to do the whole network neighborhood thing)
[20:59] <Gnea> !samba | wat
[20:59] <st3p1> can anyone help me with my headset, it plays only mono :S
[20:59] <alkaliv2> zapalony, when you type lsmod, does ehci show up in that list?
[20:59] <coty91> Can someone help me out flash videos glitch out all over my screen and cause my pc to freeze
[20:59] <wat> wow thx for all the help!
[21:00] <ABC> hi all
[21:00] <alkaliv2> coty91, what flash plugin are you using?
[21:00] <danielm_mc> whatup
[21:00] <unfo> st3p1: is your computer dual-boot?  if so, does the headset work in your other OS?
[21:00] <zapalony> alkaliv2: no, it's disabled
[21:00] <Gnea> coty91: in fullscreen or standard?
[21:00] <coty91> just standard
[21:00] <alkaliv2> zapalony, is the conflict still there?
[21:00] <ABC> i am "make" ing a program and it says C compiler cannot create executables. what should i do?
[21:00] <coty91> and im using the latest version
[21:00] <st3p1> yes it works perfect in windows but not in ubuntu
[21:00] <zapalony> alkaliv2: No.
[21:00] <Gnea> coty91: any particular site? youtube?
[21:01] <danielm_mc> ABC: sudo ?
[21:01] <unfo> Lunar_Lamp: did you find the Ubuntu Log Viewer in the top menu?
[21:01] <coty91> well the only ones i bother with are msnbc and youtube
[21:01] <alkaliv2> zapalony, does the webcam work?
[21:01] <ABC> danielm_mc: yes i am in root
[21:01] <danielm_mc> hrm
[21:01] <danielm_mc> paste output
[21:01] <zapalony> alkaliv2: now "uvcvideo" works just fine, I know that's weird, but that's how it is.
[21:01] <zapalony> alkaliv2: Yes
[21:01] <Guest88852> alkaliv2: intel video problem solved
[21:01] <st3p1> how i do the name thingy?
[21:02] <Gnea> coty91: try http://www.guzer.com/
[21:02] <alkaliv2> Guest88852, ion?
[21:02] <ABC> checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[21:02] <ABC> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[21:02] <ABC> checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[21:02] <ABC> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[21:02] <ABC> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[21:02] <ABC> checking for gawk... gawk
[21:02] <FloodBot1> ABC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:02] <unfo> st3p1: then i don't know how to fix it.  i guess ask the whole channel again
[21:02] <zapalony> alkaliv2: Should I blacklist "ehci", would you?
[21:02] <Gnea> !pastebin | ABC
[21:02] <Saulin> Could anyone help a newbie? I've somehow :( changed my opening session options and now just have the "no serving hosts were found" screen where I would normally have the sign on screen.  I've tried looking for a config file for the sessions, but have had no luck. Please advise...
[21:02] <unfo> that was rude of FloodBot
[21:02] <coty91> Gnea, alright one sec
[21:02] <ion-> alkaliv2: yes, thanks for the help
[21:02] <guntbert> ABC, danielm_mc: you don't need sudo just for make, only for make install
[21:02] <alkaliv2> zapalony, depends.  Are you using kernel 2.6.24?
[21:02] <Gnea> unfo: lol
[21:02] <alkaliv2> ion-, glad I could assist
[21:02] <ABC> ok
[21:02] <alkaliv2> ion-, so that wiki fixed it?
[21:02] <Lunar_Lamp> unfo: yes, but it was pretty useless.
[21:03] <unfo> all: does FloodBot not give a warning and second chance automatically?
[21:03] <Lunar_Lamp> No logs relating to the crash :-/
[21:03] <unfo> Lunar_Lamp: which logs did you look at?
[21:03] <st3p1> unfo im only 2 days on ubuntu and pretty lost
[21:03] <zapalony> alkaliv2: No, that's the problem. I've recently upgraded my distro, with the new kernel, but Ubuntu will non start up on that
[21:03] <Lunar_Lamp> unfo: the lot
[21:03] <ABC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/45908/
[21:03] <unfo> Lunar_Lamp: what hour, minute, and second did the crash happen?
[21:03] <Lunar_Lamp> unfo: about 10mins or so ago.
[21:04] <energY> Syslinux.cfg ubnfiel.txt ubnpathl.txt and vesamenu.c32, witch should I boot?
[21:04] <coty91> gnea, does the same thing and seems that some of the videos wont load and if they do play without glitching they look really choppy
[21:04] <Lunar_Lamp> I just see huge blank sections in the logs before the reboot logs.
[21:04] <danielm_mc> ABC - what does config.log say?
[21:04] <alkaliv2> zapalony, then for now, until there is another upgrade I would blacklist it so your OS is usable.
[21:04] <unfo> Lunar_Lamp: odd.  I don't know what the blank sections mean.
[21:04] <unfo> sorry
[21:04] <danielm_mc> ABC - also which kernel are you running 32 or 64 bit ?
[21:04] <Lunar_Lamp> unfo: when I mean blank, I mean nothing entered.
[21:04] <Lunar_Lamp> e.g. 20min gap with no log entries etc
[21:05] <guntbert> ABC: did you install build-essentials?
[21:05] <kbrosnan> prkos: probably need to report it to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0
[21:05] <ABC> danielm_mc: is says config log not found. running 32 2.6.20-15- generic
[21:05] <unfo> ABC: what program are you compiling?  and why didn't you use Add/Remove or Synaptic? :)
[21:06] <danielm_mc> ABC - you're kernel is way outdated
[21:06] <ABC> guntbert: i dont know
[21:06] <prkos> ﻿kbrosnan: i will
[21:06] <unfo> all: I hate how Windows' Add/Remove is not used to add.  Maybe we should rename Add/Remove in Ubuntu to Download / Install / Remove Software?
[21:06] <ABC> unfo: libsndfile
[21:06] <unfo> ABC: why do you need libsndfile?
[21:06] <unfo> what is the real problem
[21:06] <RediXe> How can I set up a "normal" user? I set up a xubuntu pc for someone and ran sudo passwd and set a new password. The user's password still works when running sudo or synaptic. Any way to make there password not a root password?
[21:06] <alkaliv2> unfo, well the cool thing about ubuntu is it actually does add and remove programs :)
[21:06] <alkaliv2> so windows should hand over the name
[21:06] <ABC> unfo: for ttyplay cuz my audio jack broke so i want to play audio from rs232
[21:07] <zapalony> alkaliv2: Ok, I will blacklist that
[21:07] <Gnea> unfo: lol that's what wine is for
[21:07] <zapalony> alkaliv2: What can be the reason the new kernel doesn't fire up my Ubuntu?
[21:07] <RediXe> !users
[21:07] <AliTabuger7> How about get/remove
[21:08] <alkaliv2> zapalony, was it a standard upgrade that you download or did you compile it yourself?
[21:08] <zapalony> zapalony: I guess, if I used it, the driver would be fine as it might have been patched.
[21:08] <guntbert> RediXe: a user doesn't need sudo to change her password
[21:08] <zapalony> alkaliv2: standard
[21:08] <giulio>  /msg NickServ identify <password>.
[21:08] <unfo> AliTabuger7: that'd be even better than the name i proposed I think :)
[21:08] <unfo> giulio: you did it wrong.
[21:08] <unfo> :)
[21:08] <alkaliv2> zapalony, did it boot or did it just say loading kernel?
[21:09] <zapalony> alkaliv2: the bootscreen showed up, and it just stucked
[21:09] <unfo> ABC: ttyplay is a console keystroke player, isn't it?
[21:09] <unfo> ABC: and how is it even possible to play audio over a serial port?
[21:09] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I finally pasted all the pages into here http://pastebin.com/m5aa8031e   boy that was long.   error failsafe layout.
[21:09] <ABC> unfo: yes and i am thinking of linking it to JACK
[21:09] <ABC> unfo: is says so
[21:10] <a-9> ph0rensic: The same problem on gnome-look.org...
[21:10] <clint_> anyone running CS source on ub8?
[21:10] <clint_> through wineHQ?
[21:10] <unfo> clint_: what is CS?
[21:10] <clint_> counter strike
[21:10] <ph0rensic> a--9 you cant download anything or just that file or what?
[21:10] <clint_> =)
[21:10] <unfo> clint_: and what is wineHQ? is that wine?
[21:10] <alkaliv2> zapalony, with the patches ubuntu adds it may have been a conflict between things the standard ubuntu user needs and your setup specifically
[21:10] <clint_> yea
[21:10] <clint_> i guess its the new version
[21:10] <unfo> clint_: then try channel #winehq first
[21:10] <AliTabuger7> i have css working on ubuntu 8.04
[21:11] <clint_> thanks
[21:11] <RediXe> guntbert: Well, I don't want the user to have access to the sudo password. I don't want them to try to run synaptic and be able to use their normal login password to open it. I want to have it work only with the root(admin) password. So I ran the sudo passwd to set the root password different from the user's password or was that the wrong thing?
[21:11] <unfo> clint_:  if they don't help you, come back
[21:11] <alkaliv2> zapalony, and honestly your webcam is the bad guy here because your usb drivers work fine
[21:11] <zapalony> alkaliv2: What do you mean?
[21:11] <unfo> ABC: please tell us one long line summarizing what is broken in your computer and what you want to do to fix it?
[21:11] <clint_> unfo how do you quote my name like that real quick?
[21:11] <alkaliv2> InHisName, give me a minute to look this over
[21:11] <alkaliv2> lol
[21:11] <clint_> i havent been on irc in 10 years
[21:11] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I have a GeForce 8500 GT   I had drivers installed for 64bit linux, but then encountered this failsafe display issue.  I have UNinstalled it until I fix it.
[21:11] <unfo> clint_: type "u" then "n" then "f" then press Tab
[21:11] <zapalony> alkaliv2: That' true. I'd like to start the newest kernel so I can find out if the driver works, without disabling "ehci"
[21:12] <clint_> awesome
[21:12] <clint_> unfo,
[21:12] <clint_> word!
[21:12] <unfo> clint_: :)
[21:12] <InHisName> alkaliv2: vesa was what It probably started with before I d/l the drivers from nvidia.
[21:12] <alkaliv2> zapalony, 2.6.25 is out and there are some great build guides in the ubuntu forums.  I'd say it's worth a shot
[21:12] <clint_> wheres a good guide on using terminal and a list of commands and what they do?
[21:12] <guntbert> RediXe: the sense of sudo is: the user needs just her own password ant not the root-pw, in fact in ubuntu the root-account is disabled by default, I see no reason to change that
[21:12] <ABC> unfo: my audio jack is broken so no sound is coming out of the speakers on my laptop. so i am planning to use ttyplay to play sound over serial port. also planning to use JACK to forward the sound to the ttyplay program
[21:13] <guntbert> *and
[21:13] <alkaliv2> InHisName, yea vesa is what I run when I can't use nv or nvidia but I put vesa in the driver section manually not under the board name
[21:13] <zapalony> alkaliv2: ok
[21:13] <unfo> ABC: ttyplay is not a sound program is it?
[21:13] <unfo> it is a keystroke recorder, part of ttyrec right?
[21:13] <Player2> I need some help with my screen resolution
[21:13] <unfo> !gq | Player2
[21:13] <alkaliv2> zapalony, and if it goes badly, at least this kernel works for you :)
[21:13] <ABC> unfo: it is
[21:13] <unfo> ABC: you cannot use a keystroke recorder to forward sound.  Sorry.
[21:14] <RediXe> I just want to lock the normal user from being able to play with synaptic or any system files. So I want the root account to be the only one able to.
[21:14] <alkaliv2> InHisName, did you use EnvyNG to install your drivers for you or did you use the package from nvidia's site?
[21:14] <RediXe> guntbert, ^
[21:14] <strategy> clint_, a list of commands: type this: `ls /sbin/' and `ls /bin/'
[21:14] <unfo> RediXe: what are the usernames of all the users you have created?
[21:14] <ABC> unfo: keystroke recorder?!
[21:14] <guntbert> !root | RediXe
[21:14] <unfo> ABC: this: http://0xcc.net/ttyrec/index.html.en
[21:14] <artti> Hey everyone. I have little question. How can i use somehow grep and if to check if last line in /var/log/messages contains like -- MARK --.
[21:15] <clint_> and how do i get to the root directory?
[21:15] <unfo> artti: why do you want to do that?
[21:15] <unfo> :)
[21:15] <strategy> clint_, 'cd /'...
[21:15] <clint_> like cd\ did for dos
[21:15] <zapalony> alkaliv2: Hmm
[21:15] <RediXe> unfo, It's a fresh install of xubuntu desktop with a username of data.
[21:15] <guntbert> clint_: yes, but with a space between cd and /
[21:15] <zapalony> alkaliv2: So, where should I start to look to know what's wrong with the newest kernel build?
[21:16] <unfo> RediXe: you should make another user.
[21:16] <unfo> RediXe: did you?
[21:16] <artti> unfo, first i have boring and secondly i have some ideas. It's just little game. Not very important.
[21:16] <unfo> artti: what ideas? :)
[21:16] <tyler_> Im having a bit of trouble with recordmydesktop, i install it but its not on my applications list
[21:16] <chazco> Hi... how can i recursively delete files ending with "~", interactively?
[21:16] <RediXe> unfo, No, just the one from the initial install. Figured I could lock that one down and only use the root account when support was needed.
[21:17] <alkaliv2> zapalony, well the guide shows using a ubuntu config file as the template.  Maybe locate the 2 modules conflicting and instead of using them as modules make them direct use in the kernel
[21:17] <InHisName> alkaliv2: After the Uninstall, vesa appeared in the xorg.conf file by the uninstaller.  I changed the driver one to "nv" and I got a better resolution when I manually enter $gnome-session to get desktop to run pidgin for chat. I got 640x480, now it is at 1280x1024 - what was in the xorg.conf file.
[21:17] <unfo> chazco: did you try kleansweep? or its gnome cousin, fslint
[21:17] <strategy> chazco, rm *~ isnt "interactive", but it'll delete everything ending in ~
[21:17] <strategy> make sure you dont execute rm ~ though, that could really screw stuff up
[21:17] <AliTabuger7> unfo, i created a brainstorm idea based on your idea: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/13068/
[21:17] <unfo> RediXe: why do you want to do that?
[21:17] <tyler_> Im having a bit of trouble with recordmydesktop, i install it but its not on my applications list
[21:17] <alkaliv2> InHisName, Have you tried using EnvyNG before?  Because it has had great success for a lot of people with that card
[21:17] <chazco> strategy - heh, i tried rm -r -i *~ with no luck :(
[21:17] <strategy> tyler_, lots of things wont show up there.
[21:17] <artti> unfo, maybe make some game...
[21:18] <strategy> tyler_, hit Alt+F2 and type the name of the program
[21:18] <naf> Anyone know of an issue where F-Spot comes up when you put in a card reader and hogs a huge amount of CPU - system is almost unresponsive?
[21:18] <InHisName> alkaliv2: Used package from nvidia, all I know so far. The docs are lengthy. But don't cover this issue.
[21:18] <RediXe> ubfo, It's an office and the user that will be using the computer only needs access to a few things and I don't want them getting crazy and screw something up.
[21:18] <RediXe> unfo, ***
[21:18] <unfo> artti: you want to make a game that checks for --MARK--? why? i would never play that game.
[21:18] <unfo> RediXe: what is ***?
[21:18] <tyler_> strategy: Ok thank you for your response, i typed it but nothing happened
[21:18] <RediXe> unfo, typo'd your name :P
[21:19] <strategy> tyler_, hm.
[21:19] <strategy> tyler_, how did you install it?
[21:19] <mac_> hej
[21:19] <strategy> with a .deb file, with apt-get or what?
[21:19] <unfo> RediXe: ah.
[21:19] <guntbert> RediXe: so you just remove that user from the"admin" group
[21:19] <unfo> RediXe: so make a second username for them, and make sure that user is not part of "admin"
[21:19] <strategy> tyler_, apt-get right?
[21:19] <artti> unfo, huh, i got it finaly. Just missing -e from grep.
[21:19] <tyler_> strategy: sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop
[21:19] <Lunar_Lamp> artti> Hey everyone. I have little question. How can i use somehow grep and if to check if last line in /var/log/messages contains like -- MARK --. <== if [ tail -1 /var/log/messages | grep "--MARK--" ] ; then echo "MARK!" else echo "NO MARK!"; fi
[21:20] <unfo> Lunar_Lamp: are you artti?
[21:20] <strategy> tyler_, it's not on your desktop, and not showing up with alt-f2?
[21:20] <Lunar_Lamp> unfo: no
[21:20] <tyler_> strategy: got it! had to instal gtf
[21:20] <strategy> tyler_, :D
[21:20] <tamer> how i can more resources to my synaptic ?
[21:20] <tyler_> strategy: thanks anyways
[21:20] <artti> if tail -n1 /var/log/messages | grep -e '-- MARK --'; then  echo 'hurrey'; else echo 'bad'; fi
[21:20] <Lunar_Lamp> unfo: I saw the question up the screen, and it was a pretty simple one to answer :-)
[21:20] <strategy> tyler_, no prob :p
[21:20] <ABC> unfo: oh...hmmm i thought ttyplay and ttyrec are different. but are there any other way i could play audio from another port?
[21:20] <unfo> Lunar_Lamp: ah i see you were replying.
[21:20] <artti> unfo, no he isn't
[21:20] <RediXe> unfo, can I do what guntbert suggested and just remove that user from admin group?
[21:20] <alkaliv2> InHisName, I personally recommend uninstalling the nvidia package by command NVIDIA-Linux-x86-xxx.xx.xx-pkg1.run --uninstall and then uninstalling all nvidia-glx-new from synaptic.  And then apt-get installing envyng and using it to install the latest
[21:21] <artti> unfo, maybe it's not actually not a game that you could play
[21:21] <unfo> RediXe: you want to remove your only nonroot user from "admin"?
[21:21] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I can try EnvyNG.  Is it in synaptic mgr or apt-get ?  First I want to be restored to booting ubuntu into a desktop WITHOUT two prompts 1. I have updated your files. OK.   2. The long error saying going to failsafe display.
[21:21] <RediXe> unfo, Why not? I have the root account to use.
[21:22] <unfo> naf: i don't know of such an issue.  But also try the official irc channel for f spot if one exists.
[21:22] <strategy> RediXe, really, dont use root..
[21:22] <guntbert> RediXe: no, after seconds of thinking my idea was bad, unfo is right, make a second user!
[21:22] <Saulin> how do you change the log in session to the standard sign in and not the "no serving hosts are found" screen?
[21:22] <alkaliv2> InHisName, the first I've never seen before, the second should be cleared up by envyng.  Make sure you uninstall the nvidia package before doing anything else though
[21:22] <naf> unfo: where would I find it?
[21:23] <RediXe> unfo, lol I'm a linux beginner still so I will make another user for myself and just take their user from the admin group but have mine with it.
[21:23] <unfo> naf: i dunno.
[21:23] <tamer> how i can watch TV channels from my ubuntu ?
[21:23] <linux_> Alguien sabe de algun irc de freebsd
[21:23] <balrog> whats the best foss reference management software tool?
[21:23] <linux_> ??
[21:24] <strategy> !best > balrog
[21:24] <unfo> linux_: es?
[21:24] <unfo> !es | linux_
[21:24] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I am not sure that it has to do with nvidia. I may have boogered up something in messing with a DVI and VGA monitor but not gotten it stable enough.  Then these messages came up. And I can't get rid of them.
[21:24] <unfo> linux_: pt_BR? pt_PT?
[21:25] <danielm_mc> gah anyone know how to create crl.pem in openvpn on ubuntu 8.04.1
[21:25] <danielm_mc> <-- hating easyrsa
[21:25] <guntbert> RediXe: yes, make a second user for yourself, put that one in the admin group (it doesn't do it automatically), then remove the first one
[21:25] <unfo> danielm_mc: i dunno but maybe try #ubuntu-server
[21:25] <alkaliv2> InHisName, you're slowly stepping out of my league.  I ran into a lot of problems with my nvidia setup but I run vga only and I don't really do dual monitors or have that nice of a video card :)
[21:25] <RediXe> guntbert, :)
[21:25] <zapalony> alkaliv2: You seem to understand such things, I'm afraid , I'm a begginer
[21:25] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I have copied your suggestions to text file so I can find them after reboots. EnvyNG
[21:26] <naf> unfo: where would I configure f-spot not to start up when I insert a card reader? It's already disabled in System | Preferences | Remove Drives and Media
[21:26] <starn> wich channle is it to talk about games and wine stuff?
[21:26] <alkaliv2> InHisName, let me know how it goes.  You only need to restart after envyng does it's install and it will prompt you
[21:26] <InHisName> I have backed up to go back to what I had default from ubuntu. Once there I can start with EnvyNG and try that.
[21:27] <Datz> Where can I download "/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/source"  The kernel source?
[21:27] <unfo> naf: i dunno, sorry.  Try asking the whole channel.
[21:27] <Topler> Hi.. i would need a video editing program which could paste sound over video.. . i already tried avidemux but i didn't get it working properly
[21:27] <Denise> would it be useful to deactivating prelinking for the bug of the 60 deamon-kit-consoles?
[21:28] <InHisName> alkaliv2: is there any other files besides xorg.conf for setting displays, resolutions etc. that may be having a conflict and forcing the system into going into a failsafe mode ?
[21:28] <guntbert> RediXe: if I see it correctly, in the "user privileges tab" of the "new user" dialog, there is the option "administer the system", that should get you to your target
[21:28] <DreamLnr> i started my scanner
[21:28] <alkaliv2> Denise, preload replaced prelink I thought
[21:28] <DreamLnr> unmodprobed uvsvideo (will modprobe it later if needed)
[21:28] <starn> which channel is it to talk about games and wine stuff?
[21:28] <soundray> Datz: just 'sudo apt-get install linux-source". This will put a compressed source archive in /usr/src
[21:28] <DreamLnr> and updated sane.conf's epson conf
[21:28] <DreamLnr> by adding ids
[21:28] <DreamLnr> :)
[21:28] <Denise> but to disable it would be useful?
[21:28] <Edel_RSX> !kernel
[21:28] <Datz> soundray, thanks
[21:28] <alkaliv2> InHisName, as far as X server starting I'd have to say no.  And looking at your xorg.conf it was built well
[21:29] <starn> !wine
[21:29] <soundray> Datz: why do you need source -- are you going to compile a custom kernel?
[21:29] <unfo> AliTabuger7: thank you for creating the ideastorm.  Come join me in #ubuntu-desktop for me to discuss it with them and maybe file a bug?
[21:29] <alkaliv2> Denise, prelink is only there to speed up applications you use most frequently so they launch faster.  If you want to turn it off at worst you'll see a slowdown of program startups
[21:29] <Datz> ﻿soundray, yes, for a wlan driver
[21:30] <alkaliv2> Denise, and it won't be dramatic just a second or two longer from what I could tell
[21:30] <Edel_RSX> What's the command line to get your kernel version: I'm aware of what it is but I want a CL version for when I don't... (I'm on Ubuntu Hardy 8.04)  I don't have an motd, and cat /etc/issue didn't help much either
[21:30] <jordan> hi
[21:30] <jordan> i need help install kde 3.5 and i have kde 4
[21:30] <alkaliv2> Edel_RSX, command "uname -r"
[21:30] <Denise> they say it will speed up my system
[21:30] <Edel_RSX> alkaliv2: thanks forgot about that
[21:31] <Denise> why do I have
[21:31] <alkaliv2> Denise, it speeds up the loading of programs that are used most often.  Like vistas readyboost or prefetching
[21:31] <alkaliv2> Edel_RSX, np
[21:31] <soundray> Datz: no, if you want to compile a WLAN driver separately, you don't need the full source, only the kernel headers. 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers'
[21:31] <Denise> ^) deamon-kit-consoles????
[21:31] <jordan> i need help install kde 3.5 and i have kde 4
[21:31] <InHisName> alkaliv2: what is jockey-common and jockey-gtk have to do with nvidia ? They came up in search in synaptic mgr.
[21:31] <Denise> 60
[21:31] <Denise> ???
[21:31] <zapalony> alkaliv2: I'm now going to reboot to see how it's going on, thanks for help, see you.
[21:31] <InHisName> alkaliv2: also xserver-sorg.video-nv
[21:31] <Edel_RSX> InHisName: it is an application and gui for managing restricted drivers
[21:31] <jordan> i need help install kde 3.5 and i have kde 4
[21:31] <guntbert> !enter | Denise
[21:32] <InHisName> alkaliv2: should I uninstall any of these or leave them alone ?
[21:32] <Denise> sry
[21:32] <Datz> ﻿soundray, ok thanks for the info
[21:32] <alkaliv2> InHisName, leave xserver-xorg-nv thats your backup xserver driver
[21:32] <Denise> but why 60 deamon-kit-consoles????
[21:32] <guntbert> Denise: :)
[21:32] <Denise> I need to stop it
[21:32] <soundray> Datz: sorry, 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[21:32] <alkaliv2> InHisName, the one package in synaptic you were looking for was nvidia-glx-new
[21:32] <Denise> I cant stand to watch that all running for nothing
[21:33] <zipper> I've downloaded the kernel source (linux-source). Is it possible to get the .configure file that matches my current running kernel? Or do i have to manually set all settings correctly?
[21:33] <Denise> how u can have a clear view of what is going wrong
[21:33] <jordan> i need help install kde 3.5 and i have kde 4
[21:33] <naf> unfo: where would I configure f-spot not to start up when I insert a card reader? It's already disabled in System | Preferences | Remove Drives and Media
[21:33] <alkaliv2> zipper, you can copy the config file from your boot folder
[21:33] <soundray> zipper: it's in /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[21:33] <unfo> naf: i dunno, sorry.  Try asking the whole channel.
[21:33] <Denise> where can I set it?
[21:33] <zipper> awesome, thanks a lot
[21:34] <unfo> naf: note also that you asked me that already, and I answered you that already :)
[21:34] <unfo> jordan: what is your first language?
[21:34] <InHisName> alkaliv2: none of new or any variety are installed. I guess they are all uninstalled .
[21:34] <jordan> english
[21:34] <unfo> jordan: oh.
[21:34] <erUSUL> naf: in Nautilus Window Edit>Preferences
[21:34] <echo_> Where could I get a patch for tomcat to bring it from the repositories' 5.5.25-1 to version 5.5.27 to protect from the XSS vulnerabilities? I couldn't find anything in the ubuntu forums nor in apache.org
[21:34] <unfo> jordan: you may want to try re-asking but with more prepositions this time :)
[21:34] <alkaliv2> InHisName, good stuff.  did you run the uninstall command on the nvidia package you installed manually?
[21:35] <InHisName> alkaliv2: Yes I ran nvidia's uninstall.
[21:35] <naf> unfo: Sorry, too much scrolled and I didn't find it.
[21:35] <Resistol> my live cd gets to the first menu, but when I try to install or "try it without installing", it gets stuck at 13% loading kernel... then says it can't read the cd (i've tried 3 cds that i know work) and asks me to reboot...  plz help
[21:35] <naf> Where would I configure f-spot not to start up when I insert a card reader? It's already disabled in System | Preferences | Remove Drives and Media
[21:35] <jokkaa> How do i raise programs from terminal? like writing "<something> /media/mp3" to get the disk like a new window?
[21:36] <Kuba> hi :) i am having hard time with my ubuntu 8.04
[21:36] <phpcurious> hi, this is a newbie question: how do you move files from one directory to /var/www ?
[21:36] <alkaliv2> InHisName, cool.  Just install envyng from synaptic or apt-get install envyng.  Open it up and follow the instructions and I'll cross my fingers that you come back with a good desktop setup
[21:36] <Radit> hi, i mounted an external hd; where is it located?
[21:36] <unfo> Kuba: hi, please ask your *entire* question in one long message.
[21:36] <unfo> :)
[21:36] <Kuba> unfo: yaya i know ;p
[21:36] <alkaliv2> lol
[21:36] <unfo> phpcurious: i never do that, I use mod_userdir.
[21:36] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I guess I'll have to hope for the best. Not sure if it will get it though.
[21:36] <Kuba> unfo: but it is complicated ;p
[21:37] <Martiini> jokkaa:  do you not just write the program name in terminal
[21:37] <InHisName> alkaliv2: here I go now.
[21:37] <unfo> Kuba: doesn't matter :)
[21:37] <alkaliv2> InHisName, good luck
[21:37] <Radit> ﻿hi, i mounted an external hd; where is it located?
[21:37] <alkaliv2> Radit, are you using a standard ubuntu install?
[21:37] <soundray> naf: do you have a "File Management" entry when you open System-Preferences?
[21:37] <amenado> Radit how did you mount it? what was your mount command?
[21:37] <Denise> !deamon
[21:37] <Radit> alkaliv2: yes, ubuntu 8.10
[21:37] <meuh_> hi, how do i do to force the vertical refresh of ubuntu to 100hz ?
[21:37] <Martiini> Radit: it should show up on desktop when its mounted
[21:37] <Denise> !Daemon
[21:37] <Denise> jesus
[21:37] <unfo> Radit: please tell us more detail.  what did you do exactly?  what does "mounted" mean?  what did you expect should happen?  what actually happened?
[21:38] <Denise> cheap bot
[21:38] <alkaliv2> Radit, you left my league when you went to a beta ubuntu
[21:38] <alkaliv2> sorry
[21:38] <phpcurious> unfo: oh. you used a mod. I initially wanted to change my documentroot but didn't work
[21:38] <Gnea> !hi | Denise
[21:38] <unfo> phpcurious: mod_userdir comes with apache, you just enable it
[21:38] <Radit> amenado: i just plugged it in; i wan't to know to unmount it using the command line
[21:38] <Kuba> 1. i loggin to jakub account (first ubuntu account -> sudoer) 2. i go to Menu->System->users and groups 3. http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=usersxe3.png -> i can edit two users 4. passwd irek doesn't work
[21:38] <Martiini> meuh_: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:38] <unfo> Denise: what are you trying to do?  please describe to the whole channel in full, on one long message :)
[21:38] <phpcurious> unfo: cool. let me try it on my pc.
[21:38] <Denise> not now
[21:38] <naf> soundray: Thanks, that must be it!
[21:38] <meuh_> k thx Martiini
[21:39] <Gnea> Denise: must not be important then.
[21:39] <Denise> all is going weird in that ubuntu
[21:39] <soundray> Radit: run "mount" without options. If that doesn't answer it, please ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:39] <amenado> Radit you just plugged it in? a usb interfaced hd?  type  dmesg  at the very end you should see somestatus changes
[21:39] <alkaliv2> Radit, sudo eject is the command to unmount it
[21:39] <Denise> yes it is but i m tired for now
[21:39] <Denise> ty
[21:39] <soundray> naf: on the Media tab, 4th dropdown
[21:39] <Saulin> how do you change the log in session to the standard sign in and not the "no serving hosts are found" screen?
[21:39] <InHisName> alkaliv2: root@ubuntu:~# apt-get install envyng    **  Reading package lists... Done  **  Building dependency tree   **  Reading state information... Done  **  E: Couldn't find package envyng
[21:40] <gdfuego> Anyone here a good person to talk to about the Ubuntu maintenance lifecycle?
[21:40] <Martiini> Denise:  whats the probelem .. what do yu mean everyting going wrpong with ubuntu
[21:40] <unfo> Saulin: try this: ask the whole channel the following :) "Did my question make sense?"
[21:40] <unfo> gdfuego: just ask :)
[21:40] <Denise> how comes programs can run instead of user or root?
[21:40] <unfo> ask the channel.
[21:40] <gdfuego> udo eject is the command to unmount it
[21:40] <gdfuego> ugh, sorry, copy/paste error
[21:40] <Kuba> i think that Users and groups gui (users-admin) is corrupted :(
[21:40] <gdfuego> "# Regular package maintenance until the next regular update or LTS, whichever comes first"
[21:40] <alkaliv2> InHisName, My mistake, the package is envyng-core
[21:40] <gdfuego> What counts as "regular package mainenance"?
[21:40] <naf> soundray: Yes, I saw it. It's probably what I was looking for. Actually, the main problem was that f-spot was hogging a huge amount of cpu, making the system almost unresponsive. Do you know anything about that?
[21:40] <Denise> in winows it means someone is in ur computer
[21:41] <Denise> windows
[21:41] <Radit> Guys, thanks, i figured it out; it was in /media
[21:41] <soundray> gdfuego: where are you quoting from
[21:41] <gdfuego> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/benefits/lifecycle
[21:41] <gdfuego> the "6 month regular versions" section
[21:41] <alkaliv2> InHisName, and envyng-gtk
[21:41] <Martiini> Denise:  what .. what are you asking .. in linux you run somethin as user or root
[21:41] <phpcurious> unfo: thanks for that wonderful tip. I appreciate it.
[21:41] <Denise> what is avahi-daemon?
[21:42] <Martiini> Denise:  u only run something as user .. u manage your linux system with root .. administrator that is
[21:42] <soundray> naf: well, I've experienced it, and I dislike the fact that Ubuntu sets such a resource hog as default, and lets it loose on your photo cards without so much as asking
[21:42] <gdfuego> There is a bug in pidgin that has yet to be fixed in Gutsy
[21:42] <Kuba> Denise: afaik avahi=bonjour ;)
[21:42] <gdfuego> even though it was reported many months before hardy was released
[21:42] <Denise> why i have other things running ?
[21:42] <Martiini> Denise:  you can google what is avahi -daemon
[21:42] <gdfuego> the bug report was closed since the bug is now fixed in hardy
[21:42] <Martiini> Denise:  you need to search ubuntuforums.org
[21:42] <alkaliv2> InHisName, so the two packages you should install are envyng-core and envyng-gtk so there will be an icon in gnome for you under the applications menu
[21:43] <gdfuego> but I'm still stuck with a few hundred systems running Gutsy for some time now, apparently with no fix coming
[21:43] <Cosmo-san> easy question time!  where can I view the HD statistics such as use, space, etc.?
[21:43] <gdfuego> the support policy seems to imply it should have been fixed
[21:43] <soundray> !enter | gdfuego
[21:43] <Saulin> unfo: I guess not. I changed my session options by mistake and cannot get is back to the regular sign on instead of the remote host sign on.
[21:43] <Edel_RSX> ? did I just get booted?
[21:43] <singasong> Hi - Anyone suggest an app that you could use to make up fliers, announcements, etc. - A windows equivalent would be Print Shop - Any ideas ? ? ?
[21:43] <gdfuego> ubottu: sorry
[21:43] <unfo> phpcurious: you're welcome. did you enable mod_userdir and create public_html and try it and it worked?
[21:43] <unfo> singasong: use a word processor?
[21:44] <kajo> I have a problem- if I close my laptop, when I open it, the screen is filled with vertical red bars on a black screen. Suspend doesn't work, either.
[21:44] <Denise> why I have user : syslog, klog, messageb, clamav, haldaemo, avahi-au, dhcp, www-data, ntp : why they are identified as user?
[21:44] <kajo> I currently do not have it set to suspend when the lid closes, but that causes problems also.
[21:44] <alkaliv2> Cosmo-san, the command is "df -h"
[21:44] <Cosmo-san> sank you~
[21:44] <alkaliv2> np
[21:44] <gdfuego> The bug in this case was #159020.  Pidgin refused to send a password to xmpp servers unless "save password" was checked in the account configuration
[21:44] <singasong> unfo: this is for a lady friend that's used to using a windows program like Print Shop - likes all the clip art etc.
[21:45] <phpcurious> unfo: not yet. but going there... i am planning to implement it in my work since our users are dying to have some personal space on the web
[21:45] <kajo> I have a problem- if I close my laptop, when I open it, the screen is filled with vertical red bars on a black screen. Suspend doesn't work, either.
[21:45] <kajo> I currently do not have it set to suspend when the lid closes, but that causes problems also.
[21:45] <soundray> gdfuego: since hardy has been released, no feature updates will normally go into gutsy.
[21:45] <singasong> unfo: Myself I use open office word and pull in clipart etc.
[21:45] <Edel_RSX> I'm confused, did anyone see my question about fglrx or did it not get posted? seems like I got dis/reconnected right after I asked it; want to check before I look at trying to repost / condense it
[21:46] <niche> phpcurious, are you a network administrator?
[21:46] <InHisName> alkaliv2: that went quick. In already.  I am gonna reboot to be sure and check up on my startup prob now.  I'll be back with results soon.
[21:46] <gdfuego> soundray: Thats not a feature update, its a bug fix.  Not a security one though.  My question is more why was the bug not fixed in the 4+ months between being reported and hardy being released?
[21:46] <alkaliv2> InHisName, cool.  Hope it was that easy
[21:46] <Denise> why I have user : syslog, klog, messageb, clamav, haldaemo, avahi-au, dhcp, www-data, ntp : why they are identified as user? in windows it means someone enters in ur computer is it the same in linux?
[21:46] <zipper> Hmm, i've succesfully applied a patch to the kernel source (a driver). After that, i ran 'make <driver>' with no errors. I reloaded the driver with 'modprobe <driver>'. Shouldn't that be enough to start using the new driver, or do i have to install the whole kernel to get the new module?
[21:46] <phpcurious> niche: no , im not
[21:46] <unfo> Denise: it is not the same in linux.
[21:47] <soundray> gdfuego: I don't know, but there are different possible explanations. Maybe the upstream release contained changes that Ubuntu maintainers weren't so happy with.
[21:47] <kajo> I have a problem- if I close my laptop, when I open it, the screen is filled with vertical red bars on a black screen. Suspend doesn't work, either.
[21:47] <kajo> I currently do not have it set to suspend when the lid closes, but that causes problems also.
[21:47] <echo_> Where could I get a patch for tomcat to bring it from the repositories' 5.5.25-1 to version 5.5.27 to protect from the XSS vulnerabilities? I couldn't find anything in the ubuntu forums nor in apache.org
[21:47] <Martiini> Cosmo-san: df -h , fdisk -l
[21:47] <Edel_RSX> !repeat
[21:47] <Cosmo-san> o_o
[21:47] <Edel_RSX> !patience
[21:47] <Cosmo-san> uh, Martiini, how is that lag treating you?
[21:48] <Martiini> heh
[21:48] <Martiini> i looked it up on google
[21:48] <Martiini> for you
[21:48] <phpcurious> i want to ask anyone here how to install git but I guess i have to google it first.
[21:48] <Martiini> kajo:  suspend does not work for me either
[21:48] <soundray> gdfuego: you might get your question answered in -motu (no guarantee, though)
[21:48] <soundray> !motu | gdfuego
[21:48] <unfo> singasong: i don't know of such a program.  Maybe somebody else here knows.  Try asking again.  Or install Print Shop or such on Wine.  But I don't know if printing works from Wine or not.  Wine is still not perfect and does not run all apps:  see http://appdb.winehq.org
[21:49] <brady152> hello
[21:49] <unfo> Saulin: try asking your latest revision of the question to the channel.  See if anyone replies.  If not, before you try repeating, ask the channel: "Did my question make sense?"  :)
[21:49] <Kuba> unfo: posting my question haven't implied any reponse ;p
[21:49] <seanp2k> hello, I need to upgrade RAID 1 to RAID 5 and want to back my stuff up first, I have a external firewire HDD on a windows 2003 server, what can I do to preserve permissions...mount with NFS then rsync?
[21:50] <gdfuego> soundray: Ok, thanks.
[21:50] <kajo> thanks all.
[21:50] <erUSUL> seanp2k: use a tar file
[21:50] <unfo> Kuba: what was your question again?  please repost to everyone.
[21:50] <Saulin> ok I'll bite... Did my question make sense?
[21:50] <unfo> !hi | brady152
[21:50] <Kuba> unfo: ﻿1. i loggin to jakub account (first ubuntu account -> sudoer) 2. i go to Menu->System->users and groups 3. http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=usersxe3.png -> i can edit two users 4. passwd irek doesn't work
[21:51] <seanp2k> erUSUL, only one problem, how can I store the TAR directly on the FTP... i have about 460GB of data
[21:51] <unfo> Kuba: don't ask to me, ask to everyone :)
[21:51] <seanp2k> on a 500gb raid1, soon to be 1tb raid5
[21:51] <Kuba> then
[21:51] <Kuba> ﻿1. i loggin to jakub account (first ubuntu account -> sudoer) 2. i go to Menu->System->users and groups 3. http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=usersxe3.png -> i can edit two users 4. passwd irek doesn't work
[21:51] <soundray> Saulin: not really...
[21:51] <Kuba> it seems that gui (users-admin) is corrupted
[21:51] <Saulin> ok, thx
[21:51] <alkaliv2> Heres something I should know but I don't.  How do you make the straight up and down line like between dmesg and grep?
[21:51] <unfo> alkaliv2: look down at your keyboard.  see the line?
[21:52] <soundray> Saulin: it sounded, though, like you were trying to undo a change you've made previously. What was that change?
[21:52] <Martiini> Denise: are you afraid that linux is less secure than windows .. linux is the most secure operating system .. so read up about linux and learn to use it
[21:52] <unfo> it's on one of the keys on your keyboard, and not the letter "i"
[21:52] <Denise> I m not afaid
[21:52] <Denise> afraid
[21:52] <Gnea> Martiini: that's a bit misleading - it's only as secure as the user makes it.
[21:52] <danbh_family> alkaliv2: look for the \ key
[21:52] <Martiini> Denise:  Im new here .. i didnt understand the question
[21:52] <erUSUL> seanp2k: samba share? you may have to split the tar file or make more than one dunno what the limits on filesize are on smb or nfs ...
[21:52] <Denise> but when i run the test on grc.com it says my pc can be used as a terminal
[21:53] <Denise> that i have an entry
[21:53] <alkaliv2> wow I feel dumb.  Shift backslash
[21:53] <seanp2k> erUSUL, I'm trying to set up a NFS server on the win2k3 box right now, but I was thinking of just using curlFTPFS, but that doesn't like me
[21:53] <unfo> alkaliv2: dont worry it happens to the best of us.
[21:53] <seanp2k> fusermount bitches about
[21:53] <seanp2k> fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory
[21:53] <unfo> Kuba: I don't know.  But try these 2 tips.  Tip 1. Please do not force us to view your screenshot.  Describe to us, completely and in full as part of your post, what you see in the screenshot.
[21:54] <B3z3rk3r> hey all
[21:54] <alkaliv2> thank you for answering me all the same danbh_family and unfo :)
[21:54] <unfo> alkaliv2: np :)
[21:54] <clint_> fdisk
[21:54] <Martiini> Gnea:  oh .. how can is that .. is it possible to enter linux systems with no authoriztion
[21:54] <SurfnKid> hello
[21:54] <unfo> Kuba: Tip 2: After you ask your question, ask this before repeating: "Did my question make sense?"
[21:54] <unfo> :)
[21:54] <SurfnKid> what is a good data-encryption package for usb drives
[21:54] <clint_> LOL
[21:54] <Kuba> unfo: :D lol
[21:54] <soundray> alkaliv2: or Ctrl-Shift-U 7 C
[21:55] <Gnea> Denise: all of those accounts that you listed are regular system accounts - they don't have real shells attached to them (you can see what i mean by typing:  finger syslog, for instance). they're there for helping to secure the system, and they are, historically, secure from intrusion.
[21:55] <clint_> comon google, get on your game...we linux heads need chrome!
[21:55] <Martiini> how can I hack into linux system without being given authorization
[21:55] <Gnea> Martiini: not by default.
[21:55] <alkaliv2> soundray, I feel that command will make my computer do something other than, I don't know, work?
[21:55] <Gnea> Martiini: we don't discuss such things here.
[21:55] <Saulin> I changed the session options (you know, GNOME, failsafe terminal, remote, etc) to the remote version and cannot change it back. What config file should I be looking for? Does this make any more sense?
[21:55] <Denise> I m not sure of that
[21:55] <Denise> less than sure
[21:55] <Martiini> Gnea:  is it a secret
[21:56] <gnoll> ciao a tutti
[21:56] <alkaliv2> Saulin, your .xinitrc in your home directory might be what you're looking for
[21:56] <Gnea> Martiini: it would be off-topic to discuss it here.
[21:56] <gnoll> hi all
[21:56] <DrX> anyone know of a good FREE cross platform (lin&win) email client that, unlike Thunderbird, has no database size limit, or at least a larger than 6GB limit?
[21:56] <Martiini> Gnea:  why .. do you know how to hack into a linux system
[21:56] <Saulin> thx
[21:56] <Gnea> !offtopic | Martiini
[21:56] <niche> Martiini, lmao.....
[21:56] <niche> Martiini is the ubb0r h4xxx3rz
[21:56] <Martiini> Gnea:  you sound  like a bitch
[21:56] <unfo> Martiini: you are wasting people's time.  We are volunteers and did not appreciate your question about "hacking".
[21:57] <Gnea> !language | Martiini
[21:57] <B3z3rk3r> so quiet in here what happened?
[21:57] <soundray> alkaliv2: it's good that you're careful. However, this is not a command, but a key combination for entering the pipe character that most programs, including terminal, will accept.
[21:57] <Gnea> Martiini: please, take your negative attitude and go elsewhere.
[21:57] <clint_> h4xzoring is for looosers
[21:57] <Martiini> what are you talking about then
[21:57] <Martiini> Gnea:  said that linux system is only as secure as you make it .. so
[21:57] <Kuba> hey guys! from my usuall account (jakub) i go to Menu->System->users and im able to edit not only my account personal data (name, password), but *1* other's user (irek) too :/ the same happens if i log in to irek account ->i can edit name/password of jakub; however passwd irek says i have no permissions :( (uff)
[21:58] <Kuba> ﻿Did my question make sense?
[21:58] <kajo> Has it been long enough to repeat the question now? Also, I couldn't find the motu channel... "/join #motu", or #-motu, or #!motu... none of those work.
[21:58] <alkaliv2> soundray, I always like to be careful before entering a command with that many steps. I apologize for assuming you were trying to crash my computer
[21:58] <Edel_RSX> ﻿I'm running Hardy Heron 8.04.1 on a T60p; kernel: 2.6.24-19-generic.  Video card ati fireglmobility5250 (reported by lspci as 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5250])  I'd like to be able to run extended displays/dual head while using compiz-fusion (via AIGLX); preferably from xrandr so that I don't have to restart X just because I started X undocked to my flat panel.    I can't fit all of wha
[21:58] <Gnea> Denise: well, it's up to you then to do your own research and fiddle around with it - if you're worried about anyone getting in to it, then unplug it from your internet connection while you're trying to test things out
[21:58] <tactics> Kuba, yes it did
[21:58] <clint_> is linux not secure from the get go?
[21:58] <Gnea> Martiini: yeah, and then you kept pestering me and then resorted to name-calling.
[21:58] <alkaliv2> Edel_RSX, I don't know how much you know about ATI and fglrx but it's not a great system....
[21:58] <tactics> clint_, compared to windows, linux is a fucking fort knox on wheels
[21:58] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I rebooted.  1. login prompt. 2. all updates complete. OK. 3. "long failsafe msg" ok.  4. $gnome_session Step five: open new term tab, 6. $sudo bash  step seven: $file start bridge to get internet. 8. start pidgin.
[21:58] <clint_> im afraid installing one of those update packages is going to open my system up to someone
[21:58] <Kuba> tactics: :)
[21:59] <gnoll> sorry, there is someone with good aircrack? I can contact in private please?
[21:59] <Martiini> linux is the most secure OS out there .. what else is there to say about that
[21:59] <tactics> Absolutely
[21:59] <Edel_RSX> alkaliv2: is there another system I can use based on my hardware
[21:59] <niche> clint_, haha.. don't be scared
[21:59] <clint_> tactics, thats why i swapped in the first place
[21:59] <clint_> tired of going to porn sites and getting viruses ;)
[21:59] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I am going to explore the new items from EnvyNG
[21:59] <Gnea> Martiini: that's like saying that windows will always crash within 5 minutes of being booted up on every computer in the world.
[22:00] <eitreach> What is the command to monitor net in the terminal?
[22:00] <unfo> Edel_RSX: your question was cropped at "fit all of wh"
[22:00] <kajo> Has it been long enough to repeat the question now?
[22:00] <soundray> Martiini: you've obviously got little idea about operating systems
[22:00] <Edel_RSX> unfo: how do I fit more in w/o violating the "keep it to one post rule"
[22:00] <alkaliv2> Edel_RSX, ATI drivers are the core problem in this situation so I mean you can do all the work arounds but my ati experience was all luck when I got 3D.  ATI keeps their drivers hidden from the community
[22:00] <Irfan> hi, I need to use older compiler to install virtualbox, and I am stuck now, cuz I dont really know how
[22:00] <unfo> Edel_RSX: if your Q doesn't fit in one post, then you may violate the rule.
[22:00] <Martiini> Gnea:  no .. windows can crash on you on some occasions .. but its impossible to hack into linux system .. unless you can tell me how its done
[22:01] <alkaliv2> InHisName, I'm sorry it didn't work.  I know I'm missing something but I can't see what it is looking over your log files
[22:01] <Kuba> Irfan: why not apt-get?
[22:01] <Gnea> Denise: at any rate, your best bet is to do your own research on the system. i recommend http://ubuntuforums.org, http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/
[22:01] <stdin> Edel_RSX: it's not a "rule", it's a guideline to stop people posting their question on many lines when not needed (using enter as punctuation)
[22:01] <alkaliv2> InHisName, I'd repeat the problem for everyone maybe someone in here now knows more than I do about this
[22:01] <Martiini> soundray:  all I need to know is that linux is the most secure OS
[22:01] <Irfan> becouse it installs the 1.6 verision which doesnt suit my kernel  Look
[22:01] <Irfan>   ** for a package compat-gcc-34 on Fedora systems or something similar on other
[22:01] <Irfan>   ** distributions and call configure with parameter --with-gcc-compat=gcc34.
[22:01] <Irfan> ops
[22:01] <FloodBot1> Irfan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:01] <Gnea> Martiini: again, that subject is offtopic, so please stop asking.
[22:02] <Irfan> 2.6.27-2-generic
[22:02] <InHisName> alkaliv2: Randr seems to be working better with System>Preferences>screen resolution   I think Nvidia 'breaks' it. There is note about it in the troubleshooting section.
[22:02] <alkaliv2> wow.  I didn't even know 2.6.27 was out
[22:02] <clint_> martini...what a dumb question
[22:02] <niche> Martiini, if you think linux is so secure than why do you keep asking how to hack it?
[22:02] <Gnea> clint_: enough.
[22:02] <Edel_RSX> gotcha
[22:02] <clint_> every os is vulnerable
[22:02] <soundray> Martiini: well, it isn't
[22:02] <Irfan> well I am on intrepid ibex, but noone on +1 to help me
[22:02] <Martiini> niche:  Gnea claimed its easy to hack linux and i shouldnt talk about it here
[22:02] <erUSUL> !intrepid | Irfan
[22:02] <clint_> use a pen and paper if you dont want your stuff to be compromised
[22:03] <Edel_RSX> I've tried using open source ati driver and couldn't get compiz to work through aiglx
[22:03] <niche> o rly
[22:03] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I have pored over the log files a bunch but could not see anything there either.
[22:03] <Martiini> soundray:  .. it isnt .. how do you hack google linux servers then .. tell us
[22:03] <alkaliv2> Edel_RSX, the open source ATI driver doesn't work well with compiz.  You have to use the ATI proprietary
[22:03] <Brucee> i have ubuntu hardy, where is the setting for treble and bass when playing music?
[22:03] <Edel_RSX> alkaliv2: exactly
[22:03] <Irfan> as I said, noone answers me on Ubuntu+1
[22:03] <Martiini> soundray:  or is that offtopic as well
[22:03] <danbh_family> niche: ya rly!
[22:03] <meuh_> hi, i try to set the VertRefresh of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to 100hz but i don't know how to do
[22:03] <InHisName> alkaliv2: Ok Illl start again. Still looking into EnvyNG yet.
[22:03] <niche> haha
[22:04]  * erUSUL shouts: Do not feed the troll!!
[22:04] <clint_> amen
[22:04] <zipper> Hmm, i've succesfully applied a patch to the kernel source (a driver). After that, i ran 'make <driver>' with no errors. I reloaded the driver with 'modprobe <driver>'. Shouldn't that be enough to start using the new driver, or do i have to install the whole kernel to get the new module running?
[22:04] <Gnea> !ops | Martiini
[22:04] <SurfnKid> what is a good data-encryption package for usb drives
[22:04] <alkaliv2> InHisName, your xorg.0.log showed only one error and it wouldn't have caused a gnome failsafe I don't think.  I'd post your question again.  Maybe someone else in here has your card
[22:04] <PriceChild> Gnea: hmm?
[22:04] <niche> Brucee, it depends if your audio card supports it. If it does, you should be able to find it in the advanced properties of your volume control.
[22:04] <Edel_RSX> alkaliv2: fine Im running propietary... how do I get multiple head or multi-display; every method I've tried seems to result in corruption or sending me to "low graphics mode"
[22:05] <eitreach> what do I use for netmonitor in the terminal?
[22:05] <Brucee> thanks niche
[22:05] <Goosemoose> i have one screen that pops up when doing preseed pxe install that says the 'selected device already contains logical volumes'. I thought that this would take care of it, but it doesn't: d-i partman-auto/purge_lvm_from_device boolean true
[22:05] <Goosemoose> any idea what im missing?
[22:05] <phpcurious> bye guys see later again!
[22:05] <Gnea> PriceChild: i've tried very hard, but Martiini refuses to stop asking the same question over and over again, even though we've informed him that the discussion is offtopic and where it should be taken.
[22:05] <erUSUL> zipper: your steps lack a "sudo make install" or similar step to placve the driver on the coreect folder and check dependencies so modprobe can find it and load it correctly
[22:05] <alkaliv2> Edel_RSX, I can't help you there.  I melted my Radeon X800 Pro and I went nvidia because I couldn't hardly get ati drivers to work
[22:05] <cheeky> can anyone help me with sound issue .. i only can play sound on one program ... and not the other..i have the codecs .. extra stuff instaled .. can any one help me please ?
[22:06] <zipper> erUSUL: make install would re-install the whole kernel from source...right?
[22:06] <niche> Brucee, go to preferences in volume control and there will be a "treble" and "bass" option you can click if your card supports it.
[22:06] <Martiini> Gnea:  what was that !ops | Martiini .. you complained all admins about em now .. is that not bitchlike bahavior ...
[22:06] <danbh_family> cheeky: use alsa, run gstreamer-properties
[22:06] <zipper> erUSUL: but i guess thats no problem since i took the config file from my boot dir...?
[22:06] <erUSUL> zipper: if you are compiling the driver from a hole kernel source code yes
[22:06] <meuh_> i try to set the VertRefresh of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to 100hz but i don't know how to do, who can help me ?
[22:06] <zipper> i am
[22:06] <Martiini> heh .. i always get banned here
[22:06] <unfo> Martiini: Gnea is a respected helper here.
[22:06] <Gnea> Martiini: please don't use that sort of language in here.
[22:06] <zipper> okay, i'll do that, thanks
[22:06] <cheeky> danbh_family:  i have those codecs
[22:07] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I am pretty sure now that the problem is not with nvidia but somthing I did to my setup while trying to mess with 2 moitors and maxup my resolutions.   In my ignorance I probably did something that made a conflict and I can't seem to find it to UNdo, yet.
[22:07] <danbh_family> cheeky: run gstreamer-properties, and switch to alsa
[22:07] <erUSUL> zipper: then you will have to copy the ko file(s) and run "sudo depmod -a" by hand
[22:07] <Martiini> you people always ban me on ubuntu channels when i say something
[22:08] <alkaliv2> InHisName, your xorg.conf could possibly be flooded with resolutions.  You could run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to rebuild it.  It's a total shot in the dark though and you'd have to put nvidia back in the drivers section again
[22:08] <cheeky> danbh_family: i only have been using ubuntu for three days i am not that sure how to run gstreamer properties; isnt it already running ?
[22:08] <erUSUL> zipper: do the source code match the kernel you running?
[22:08] <Gnea> Martiini: perhaps if you'd show some respect, you wouldn't have this problem.
[22:08] <zipper> erUSUL: it should, yeah
[22:08] <danbh_family> Martiini: relax a second.  if you were going to get banned right away, you would have been.  If you are worried, join #ubuntu-ops
[22:09] <Martiini> Gnea:  you can shove respect in your ass
[22:09] <zipper> erUSUL: where do i put the .ko files though? And i guess i still have to do make install before i can copy them...
[22:09] <alkaliv2> InHisName, and you can't be in X when you run that command.  You'll have to write it down and boot into a safe console
[22:10] <singasong> Hi - Is there a way to get a shortcut to the Documents Folder in Places on my desktop ? ? ?
[22:10] <d0wn> Is there a way to install OpenSSH-server from the ubuntu server cd, after installation?
[22:10] <erUSUL> zipper: no make install you copy them to /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/(whatever it should be)
[22:11] <alkaliv2> singasong, on your drop down menu under "Places" take your home folder right click and it and say "add to panel" then drag it onto the desktop
[22:11] <erUSUL> zipper: then run "sudo depmod -a"
[22:11] <Guest57178> to install openssh-server type : apt-get install openssh-server
[22:12] <InHisName> Folks, I have buggered up my display so much that I get this error, now: "I could not start your session and so I have started the failsafe xterm session.  Windows now have focus only if you have your cursor above them.  To get out of this mode type 'exit' in the window in the upper left corner".   I have UNinstalled all of my NVIDIA drivers to go back to default of install of Hardy.   This message appears after logging in before 
[22:12] <d0wn> Guest57178: was that directed torwards me?
[22:12] <Guest57178> or you could look at this : apt-cache search ssh | grep server
[22:13] <danbh_family> cheeky: do you know what a terminal is?
[22:13] <zipper> erUSUL: ah okay. Since im installing the same version of the kernel as im already running, i guess i dont have to make a new entry to grub to run it?
[22:13] <meuh_> hi, i've set "VertRefresh  50-100" the monitor section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf but then when i go to System > Preferences > Screen Resolution, there's no  "100 hz". Who can help me please ?
[22:13] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I'll try your reconfig suggestion.
[22:13] <zipper> erUSUL: maybe i dont even have to reboot...
[22:14] <erUSUL> zipper: !!?? i thought you where only installing a single module ... not the whole kernel
[22:14] <jokkaa> How can i switch wich soundcard system will use by default? Currently fluxbux uses my motherboard soundcard.. how to change it?
[22:14] <danbh_family> !terminal > cheeky       Once you learn what a treminal is, run gstreamer-properties, switch to alsa
[22:14] <zipper> erUSUL: Yeah, i am... I'm sorry, im not a veteran at this. I assumed 'make install' installed the whole kernel, overwrote everthing in /boot.
[22:15] <alkaliv2> InHisName, lol I feel as though I'm running out of ways to help
[22:15] <meuh_> hi, i've set "VertRefresh  50-100" the monitor section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf but then when i go to System > Preferences > Screen Resolution, there's no  "100 hz". Who can help me please ?
[22:15] <d0wn> Perhaps I didn't word my question well. is there a way I can install packages from the ubuntu server cd, when you're not connect to the internet?
[22:15] <erUSUL> zipper: yes it does that ..,. but i thought you where only replicing a single module
[22:16] <acplima> Anyone could point me out to a tutorial to get MS LifeCam vx1000 working on Ubuntu Hardy? I have managed to get the cam working but no sound is being recorded.
[22:16] <erUSUL> zipper: module==driver
[22:17] <zipper> erUSUL: thats my goal anyway, but as you might have noticed, i'm not really sure how this is done =). 'make install' compiles everything i need, put the .ko files in the right place, and 'depmod -a' sets up the system to use the new modules?
[22:17] <erUSUL> zipper: if you want to compile the whole kernel follow th guide at:
[22:17] <erUSUL> !kernel | zipper
[22:18] <selocol> i did an apt-get upgrade and 7 packages were kept back; why's that?
[22:18] <meuh_> i've set "VertRefresh  50-100" the monitor section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf but then when i go to System > Preferences > Screen Resolution, there's no  "100 hz". Who can help me please ?
[22:18] <zipper> erUSUL: I've already been at that site, but it only explains how to replace the kernel entirely. Not how to just patch a module and then enable it
[22:19] <soundray> selocol: if you run 'sudo apt-get install packagename' on one of the held-back packages, there will be a more informative error message.
[22:19] <alkaliv2> zipper, you have to recompile the kernel to add a patch I believe
[22:19] <InHisName> alkaliv2: I really appreciate the help you have given me so far.   ﻿dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  was mostly keyboard issues in the questions. I'll see when I reboot a little later.
[22:20] <danbh_family> meuh_: what is the connection between the vertical refresh, and the overall refresh/screen resolution?
[22:20] <alkaliv2> InHisName, yea they changed it.  It used to include resolutions but I thought it was worth a try
[22:20] <luca> l.scano@yahoo.it
[22:20] <selocol> soundray: thanks
[22:20] <zipper> alkaliv2: I see. I'm actually running 'make' as we speak, waiting for it to finish so i can run 'make install'. After that i was planning to run 'depmod -a' to get my new, patched module up and running. Is this approach wrong?
[22:21] <erUSUL> zipper: i already told how to do it ...
[22:21] <thingy> danbh_family: vert refresh = the 60 bit in 1027x768@60hz. It's how fast the picture is updated from top to bottom each cycle
[22:21] <meuh_> danbh_family :  the refresh in System > Preference > Screen Resolution is a vertical refresh
[22:21] <Edel_RSX> I guess I'll have to start hasseling my buddy who works at ati a lot
[22:21] <alkaliv2> zipper, did you already run xconfig or menuconfig?
[22:22] <zipper> erUSUL: you did, and im very happy that you did. Im just not certain i understood you correctly
[22:22] <erUSUL> zipper: do no run make install just make <dirver> then  you copy the file.ko to /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/(whatever it should be) and finally run "sudo depmod -a"
[22:22] <zipper> alkaliv2: well, no. I used the .config from my boot dir
[22:22] <InHisName> alkaliv2: It emptied out all the resolutions from the xorg.conf file. I will reboot to see what that does to me.  c u later.
[22:23] <erUSUL> zipper: after all this you can "sudo modprobe -r driver && sudo modprobe driver" to use the new driver
[22:23] <zipper> erUSUL: ?! But i already did that, and you told me that i needed to do 'make install'
[22:23] <alkaliv2> zipper, erUSUL knows better about this situation that I do.  I compiled kernel with patches from the beginning
[22:23] <zipper> erUSUL: "did that" = make /dir/to/driver/thats/patched
[22:23] <zipper> alkaliv2: okay, thanks anyway
[22:23] <dsch04> Here's a dead quick question...
[22:23] <erUSUL> zipper: no; never said to run "make install"
[22:24] <selocol> soundray: turns out that i have install each apckage individually. is there a quicker method?
[22:24] <dsch04> I'm using 8.04.1; when I print to PDF, where does it go?
[22:24] <zipper> erUSUL: im sorry, must've misread something then =/
[22:24] <dsch04> I don't get any pop up prompting for a file name
[22:24] <thingy> dsch04: a file on your desktop? or home dir?
[22:25] <zipper> erUSUL: but thats great, then im almost ready to use my new module. Thanks a million
[22:25] <erUSUL> zipper: no problem
[22:25] <dios_mio> ubuntu sucks,,, windows xp rulez!
[22:25] <meuh_> on windows i can put my resolution to 100hz with one click, but with ubuntu i only can go up to 61hz...
[22:25] <dios_mio> meuh_, that is because linux sucks, and windows rulez
[22:25] <dsch04> Aha! There's a folder called "PDF" in my home dir
[22:25] <alkaliv2> did he just fail to start an argument?
[22:25] <alkaliv2> twice?
[22:26] <thingy> meuh_: do you have a crt monitor or an lcd one?
[22:26] <erUSUL> meuh_: try "gksu dislpayconfig-gtk"
[22:26] <meuh_> crt
[22:26] <Edel_RSX> !fglrx
[22:26] <clint_> dios_mio, alt + f4 yourself
[22:26] <soundray> selocol: it's hard to tell why it held them. I generally advise people to use apt-get dist-upgrade instead of apt-get upgrade -- this tends to prevent this problem.
[22:26] <dios_mio> clint_, lol
[22:26] <clint_> ;)
[22:27] <dios_mio> silly linuxers
[22:27] <alkaliv2> always doing stuff the hard way
[22:27] <Edel_RSX> I thought I had read that ATI drivers were finally getting better and more linux friendly
[22:27] <thingy> meuh_: in ubuntu, there is a file called /etc/X11/xorg.conf in which you need to specify the max horiz + max vert freqs of your monitor to allow Xorg to automatically select the best frequency for a given mode. Do you know what these values are? usually they are written onthe back of the monitor or you can google and look up the specs
[22:27] <alkaliv2> Edel_RSX, I think that was projected 2012.....kidding never heard that
[22:27] <Edel_RSX> lol do they even support their own drivers?
[22:27] <wat> what is this Terminal Server Client?
[22:28] <ph0rensic> wat: you use it to connect to remote clients
[22:28] <meuh_> erUSUL : the command doesn't do anything
[22:28] <meuh_> thingy: i have this
[22:28] <meuh_> Section "Monitor"
[22:28] <meuh_> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[22:28] <meuh_> EndSection
[22:28] <FloodBot1> meuh_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <erUSUL> meuh_: try "gksu displayconfig-gtk" i misstyped
[22:28] <M_28> hi guys i need help with gusty
[22:28] <alkaliv2> isn't 100hz a ludicrous refresh rate to try to run at anyway?
[22:29] <wat> is it just me or lets say im trying to download the exact same file over linux and windows
[22:29] <wat> but linux will seem to dl it like 3x as fast
[22:29] <wat> or am i just hullicnating?
[22:30] <alkaliv2> wat, you'd be experiencing what I call linux
[22:30] <meuh_> erUSUL:  ok there's a windows which opens let me try to know if it works
[22:30] <thingy> meuh_: try not to paste more than 3 lines at a time since the flood protection in the channel will kick you. pastebin it instead. Again, do you know what the horiz/vert freq maximum values are for your crt?
[22:30] <alkaliv2> you're not crazy
[22:30] <wat> why is that?
[22:30] <meuh_> yes thingy , i know that for my crt, i can do 800*600 @ 100 hz easily
[22:31] <alkaliv2> wat, revamped network settings by users for users.  And best of all an OS that doesn't destroy itself and it's settings over time
[22:31] <danbh_family> meuh_: are you using nvidia?
[22:31] <eubey> i'm having some trouble on my laptop with ubuntu. Every now and then the screen just goes black and i cant do anything but reboot the computer. It happened alot when i was playing movies with totem, and now its happening someitmes with VLC as well. Any ideas?
[22:31] <meuh_> yes danbh_family
[22:31] <alkaliv2> wat, if you go to ubuntu-unleashed.com you can find more network tweaks
[22:31] <meuh_> danbh_family: yes the proprietary drivers
[22:32] <thingy> meuh_: ok, can you specify the exact make and model of your crt and i'll look up the specs
[22:32] <meuh_> samtron 76e
[22:32] <d0wn> Okay, so, I have a dhcpd set up on my computer. what's i'm trying to do is server -> crossover cable -> this computer -> wifi -> internet. the dhcpd is working correctly and all, however..i can't access the internet from my server. pinging google.com fails. dhcp is giving the correct DNS servers too, i've checked
[22:32] <meuh_> thingy: samtron 76E
[22:33] <alex1> hey guys, is it safe to reinstall vista after installing ubuntu on another partition?
[22:33] <ph0rensic> alex1: Installing vista is never safe
[22:34] <alkaliv2> alex1, re-installing vista will overwrite your grub boot record
[22:34] <zvacet> alex1 : yes but you will have to reinstall grub
[22:34] <alkaliv2> lol
[22:34] <InHisName> alkaliv2: That wasn't it either (simple xorg.conf).  Still have the interrupting messages to creating the desktop. There must be another conf or setup file or something messing me up.
[22:34] <alex1> (it's actually a tripple booted mac)  :(
[22:34] <meuh_> maybe with nvidia drivers use another file than /etc/xorg.conf
[22:34] <alex1> how do i reinstall grub?
[22:34] <thingy> meuh_: Is this the monitor: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samtron-AN17LT7U-EDC-76E-Monitor/dp/B0000ASWEF
[22:34] <alkaliv2> InHisName, you've tapped out my knowledge.  Sorry I can't be of more help
[22:34] <niche> what is grub?
[22:34] <TheDarkness> nn
[22:35] <ph0rensic> niche: Grub is the bootloader
[22:35] <maxagaz> is it possible to create an index for djvu bundles ?
[22:35] <zvacet> !grub | alex1
[22:35] <InHisName> alkaliv2: If I fix it soon, I'll pass the info to you too, if you are still here.
[22:35] <meuh_> thingy: Yes
[22:35] <alkaliv2> InHisName, I appreciate it.  I may submit it towards a wiki
[22:35] <ph0rensic> InHisName: whats the prob?
[22:35] <alex1> zvacet, thanks
[22:36] <alex1> wish me luck guys :(
[22:36] <thingy> meuh_: ok priv msg me as following the channel is difficult
[22:36] <zvacet> alex1 : and you are runing Vista on Mac ?????????
[22:36] <alex1> zvacet, yes... i was
[22:36] <InHisName> ph0rensic: I keep getting 2 messages after logging in before the desktop is created.
[22:36] <danbh_family> meuh_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Incorrect%20Refresh%20Rate%20Reported
[22:37] <zvacet> alex1 : just a joke
[22:37] <trashguy> anyone use virtualbox?
[22:37] <ph0rensic> InHisName: hmm odd .. what changes did you make for this
[22:37] <InHisName> ph0rensic: 1. all updates completed. OK or some similar.   2. "I could not start your session and so I have started the failsafe xterm session.  Windows now have focus only if you have your cursor above them.  To get out of this mode type 'exit' in the window in the upper left corner"
[22:37] <ph0rensic> trashguy: Yes I do
[22:37] <alex1> zvacet, unfortunately some software is windows only :\
[22:38] <trashguy> ph0rensic, http://pastebin.com/d1a4737fe
[22:38] <trashguy> i instaleld the generic and 386 module
[22:38] <ph0rensic> InHisName: you were editing xorg.conf or what?
[22:38] <InHisName> ph0rensic: I was adding drivers for NVIDIA card but in ignorance messed up something. Now they are uninstalled and problem is still there.
[22:38] <zvacet> alex1 : like I said it was a joke I supose you need it when you ask
[22:39] <InHisName> ph0rensic: lotta editing of xorg.conf and possibly others. It is very simple now. Still NG.
[22:39] <ph0rensic> InHisName: Did you add yourself to the virtualbox users?
[22:39] <ph0rensic> sorry
[22:39] <ph0rensic> trashguy: ^^
[22:39] <InHisName> ph0rensic: I am trying to get back to what was running after I installed Hardy (the default)
[22:40] <InHisName> ph0rensic: Long ago.
[22:40] <ph0rensic> InHisName: Sure did you try to reconfigure your xorg?
[22:40] <InHisName> ph0rensic: I ran: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and now I have a very simple xorg.conf.  Still have prob.
[22:40] <alex1> zvacet, i'm not in the mood for jokes right now. this house of cards that is the gpt/mbr contraption is about to come crumbling down after vista sledgehammers itself onto the harddrive :P
[22:41] <ph0rensic> InHisName: Are the nvidia drivers uninstalled?
[22:41] <InHisName> ph0rensic: I have rebooted several times to see if problem was cured. No not yet.
[22:41] <RandomNuB> hello all :D
[22:41] <RandomNuB> anyone having problem like this while trying to patch Wine with the DX9? http://pastebin.com/m611591
[22:42] <ph0rensic> Ok you should uninstall the nvidia drivers, then reconfigure again, and then reinstall using restricted driver manager
[22:42] <t_[^^]z> wow look how much more people like ubuntu than other distros: http://votelinux.org ...
[22:42] <Denials_> Anyone know how to get different screen resolutions running cloned desktop? Laptop - 50" Plasma, ATI Mobility Radeon X600... Hardy...
[22:42] <InHisName> ph0rensic: yes none checked in synoptic mgr.  I used the uninstall provided by NVIDIA.
[22:42] <SurfnKid> what is a good data-encryption package for usb drives??
[22:42] <strategy> Hmm.. my xorg.conf doesnt have a "Driver '...'" line, i have an onboard intel chip.. how do i tell what driver it's using?
[22:43] <bert1> hi, can anybody tell me how to make VLC the default media player in Ubuntu??
[22:43] <RandomNuB> can someone help me with this http://pastebin.com/m611591 ?
[22:43] <InHisName> ph0rensic: I think I messed myself up rather than blame nvidia drivers or uninstall.  I was doing a lot of reading and tweeking to get 2 monitors to run with the nvidia.
[22:43] <RandomNuB> I am trying to patch Wine with DX9 :D
[22:43] <alkaliv2> ph0rensic, I was helping InHisName  and I had him remove all nvidia and install again with EnvyNG.
[22:43] <ph0rensic> InHisName: Do you remember which nvidia driver it was??? maybe you could do a sudo apt-get -purge nvidia-glx-new (or whichever package it was
[22:44] <carandraug> bert1: System > Preferences > Prefered applications
[22:44] <ganymede> bert1: whenever you encounter a file that isn't opened with vlc by default, go to propertise and under the open with tab, add in vlc, and set it as default
[22:44] <InHisName> ph0rensic: it was version 173 something for 64bit.
[22:44] <ganymede> bert1: carandraug's method sounds better, actually
[22:44] <RickX> anyone have any idea why all installed apps dont show in the Debian menu?
[22:44] <tmapj> can anyone tell me if pidgin makes any DNS requests?
[22:44] <amenado2> strategy-> gksu displayconfig-gtk  then select the correct driver from one of the tabs
[22:44] <chetic> How come I can only choose 640x480 or 800x600 resolutions? How do I add more?
[22:45] <ph0rensic> alkaliv2: Hmm I used ENVY once and it worked fine, Ive never had a problem with the restricted driver manager though
[22:45] <bert1> ok thank you carandraug & ganymede =)
[22:45] <carandraug> bert1: no problem
[22:46] <InHisName> I am fairly sure it is NOT nvidia NOR xorg.conf file.  There must be another place that can cause conflicts during desktop setup.  Resolution, display, monitor, card settings. Still left behind or .....
[22:46] <erUSUL> tmapj: it should it has to locate the various im servers
[22:46] <alkaliv2> ph0rensic, that's why I wanted him to give it a shot.  I didn't have him reconfigure xorg with all the nvidia uninstalled.  And I figured switching from nvidia to nv in the drivers section would at least get him back to original
[22:46] <thingy> !pastebin > thingy
[22:46] <InHisName> I am fairly sure it is NOT nvidia NOR xorg.conf file.  There must be another place that can cause conflicts during desktop setup.  Resolution, display, monitor, card settings. Still left behind or .....  for got your tags: ph0rensic and alkaliv2
[22:46] <ph0rensic> alkaliv2: Absolutly it should have
[22:46] <tmapj> erUSUL, can you tell me how to make I2P route DNS requests throught it?
[22:47] <alkaliv2> InHisName, you did try changing the driver to NV in your xorg.conf under driver first right?
[22:47] <erUSUL> tmapj: not even know what i2p is ...
[22:47] <tmapj> can anyone tell me how to make I2P route DNS requests through it?
[22:48] <InHisName> I am not really running with any drivers that I am aware of right now and problem is still there.  ph0rensic and alkaliv2
[22:48] <trashguy> ASDFjasl;kjf;kljaf
[22:48] <carandraug> InHisName: doesn't know if it plays but what about hal? I've upgraded to Intrepid and now what was in xorg.conf is in fdi files. Did he made any update or installed something?
[22:49] <strategy> amenado2, thanks
[22:49] <ph0rensic> InHisName: Id still like to be sure you don't have left over nvidia settings somewhere
[22:49] <alkaliv2> InHisName, because you could change driver to vesa under driver which is just a 2D driver and see if they error goes away if ph0rensic agrees
[22:50] <alkaliv2> I used the word driver too much
[22:50] <InHisName> carandraug: I am still trying to revert back to what Hardy gave me at install. (default)  I put in no drivers for a few weeks until last week.  ph0rensic & alkaliv2
[22:50] <ph0rensic> InHisName: yah that may help pinpoint it .. if problem goes away it is likely a nvidia package issue?
[22:51] <kitche> so ubuntu uses 2.6.24.16 for kernel? or is it a higher version?
[22:51] <InHisName> ph0rensic: what do I change?   Section device Ident config vid dev.   Option "UseFBDev" "true"
[22:52] <ph0rensic> InHisName: Im surprised that dpk didn't fix it... hey alkaliv2. isn't there a fixx command or boot option to fix x??
[22:52] <ph0rensic> InHisName: can you pastebin?
[22:52] <xai> anyone run on asus M3A78, if so, how does it work ?
[22:52] <alkaliv2> ph0rensic, I know there is a command to build a brand new xorg that ubuntu doesn't mention its like X -configure
[22:52] <niche> What will the new kernel in Ubuntu 8.10 change?
[22:52] <InHisName> ph0rensic: I can but xorg.0.log was a lotta pastes from vi.
[22:53] <erUSUL> kitche: 2.6.24.19.21
[22:53] <ph0rensic> InHisName: Oh you cant gedit?
[22:53] <erUSUL> niche: 2.6.27 based
[22:53] <InHisName> Haven't used that yet.
[22:53] <alkaliv2> ph0rensic, you can gedit in gnome with sudo and then ctrl alt backspace to restart the x server to save time
[22:53] <lisa_> I run Ubuntu as a guest using Virtualbox, and Windows as host.  Is there any ubuntu firefox addon that scrambles keystrokes?  KeyScrambler doesnt work on Linux Firefox
[22:53] <Gnea> exit
[22:54] <kitche> erUSUL: so then 2.6.27.19.21 just checking siI know linux.org released a fix for something
[22:54] <ph0rensic> alkaliv2: absolutly
[22:54] <carandraug> niche: it seems to me, no xorg.conf. A buch of fdi files to edit for example. Seems it's supposed to be better
[22:54] <erUSUL> kitche: no 2.6. *24* .19.21
[22:54] <InHisName> That's pretty cool, I can paste from that. ph0rensic
[22:54] <niche> carandraug, so faster or just easier to keep stable?
[22:54] <ph0rensic> InHisName: ok
[22:54] <lisa_> kitche, any ideas?
[22:54] <kitche> erUSUL: then don't say 2.6.27 bsed
[22:55] <ph0rensic> lisa_: Im not aware of one but I know nothing :-)
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:55] <lisa_> does there exist any keylog scrambler for Linux firefox?
[22:55] <kitche> erUSUL: well looks like I'll do some patching it seems to some of my systems :)
[22:55] <erUSUL> kitche: that's intrepid's kernel
[22:55] <lisa_> ph0rensic, join the club :)
[22:55] <Gnea> q
[22:55] <lisa_> !keyloggers
[22:55] <InHisName> ph0rensic:  and others, what do we want pasted up ?
[22:55] <erUSUL> kitche: and i said that to niche not you
[22:56] <erUSUL> kitche: this is what i said to you 23:53 < erUSUL> kitche: 2.6.24.19.21
[22:56] <alkaliv2> lisa_, the xpi file is cross platform compatible so any addon site that has the addon should be able to be installed as long as firefox is compatible
[22:56] <carandraug> niche: the syntax is completely different and less intuitive for those who never saw html tags. And it's split in several files which may help. I don't know. But the xorg.conf is still there what may aught some by surprise. I was editing xorg.conf and had no effect whatsoever. Feel I was going crazy
[22:56] <lisa_> alkaliv2, where is this xpi file?
[22:57] <lisa_> alkaliv2, when I visit the keyscramber addon, it says NOT AVAILABLE FOR LINUX
[22:57] <kitche> erUSUL: yep I see niche is actually making my client go off but I just wanted to see if I had to patch my kernel or not once I reinstall ubuntu or wait for them to release a patch
[22:57] <lisa_> alkaliv2, do you know what you talking about? or making it up as you go? :)
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> lisa_: can you give a link to the site you got it from
[22:57] <lisa_> ActionParsnip, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3383
[22:58] <alkaliv2> lisa_, the xpi file is the core of the addon.  It can be manually added to firefox that old fashioned way by copy and paste but if it's not compatible it may act funny
[22:58] <Kuba> unfo: i've been waiting 1,5h now ;p i will try tommorow ;) thanks for tips
[22:58] <lisa_> ActionParsnip, it says, "KeyScrambler Personal is not available for Linux."
[22:58] <alkaliv2> lisa_, we all use linux.  Everyone is making it up as they go :)
[22:58] <ph0rensic> InHisName: can you paste the whole xorg?
[22:58] <unfo> Kuba: hold on, let me scroll back
[22:58] <lisa_> alkaliv2, no it doesnt work
[22:58] <lisa_> alkaliv2, try it yourself at the link I posted
[22:58] <ph0rensic> lisa_: Did you look through all of firefox addons?
[22:58] <unfo> Kuba: what time local time was the last time you repeated the question?
[22:58] <ph0rensic> alkaliv2: LOL
[22:58] <lisa_> ph0rensic, keyscramber doesnt work on linux firefox. is there another way?
[22:58] <unfo> Kuba: also, if this didn't help, try the forums instead of IRC.
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> lisa_: what are you trying to achieve?
[22:59] <unfo> Kuba: if that fails, the mailing lists
[22:59] <ph0rensic> lisa_: But is there another addon with similar features?
[22:59] <lisa_> ActionParsnip, i told you already
[22:59] <unfo> Kuba: if that fails, pay a consultant
[22:59] <lisa_> ActionParsnip,  I run Ubuntu as a guest using Virtualbox, and Windows as host.  Is there any ubuntu firefox addon that scrambles keystrokes?  KeyScrambler doesnt work on Linux Firefox
[22:59] <Kuba> unfo: you are lovely ;p
[22:59] <unfo> Kuba: thanks :)
[22:59] <lisa_> ph0rensic, thats what im asking, i cant find one :(
[22:59] <alkaliv2> lisa_, you're right.  Key scrambler isn't a standard xpi file
[22:59] <lisa_> alkaliv2, ok
[23:00] <Kuba> unfo: i appreciate You help me :)
[23:00] <ph0rensic> lisa_: Are you worried about keylogging?
[23:00] <lisa_> i need to scramber or encrypt all keystrokes within Ubuntu.  Is there a way?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> lisa_: try downloading in in another system then email it
[23:00] <lisa_> ph0rensic, irrelevant
[23:00] <lisa_> ActionParsnip, are u drunk?
[23:00] <jeffersonbaeta> ola para todos
[23:00] <unfo> Kuba: never mind, i don't have a long enough scrollback buffer.
[23:00] <unfo> !es | jeffersonbaeta
[23:00] <lisa_> ph0rensic, bump
[23:00] <jeffersonbaeta> hello for all
[23:00] <unfo> jeffersonbaeta: ok?
[23:00] <InHisName> ph0rensic: ﻿nHisName: can you paste the whole xorg?   like xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log ? other too?  off to dinner... Ill check once in 2 min
[23:01] <lisa_> does anyone know how to scramber or encrypt all keystrokes entered into Ubuntu Firefox?
[23:01] <ValentineX> Hello what was terminal command to install netbeans?
[23:01] <orgthingy> hello
[23:01] <ph0rensic> InHisName: xorg.conf
[23:01] <orgthingy> every program that is in /usr/bin asks for ROOT not sudo password (either of them is annoying anyway)
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> !netbeans
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> !info netbeans
[23:01] <jeffersonbaeta> hello lisa_
[23:02] <Kuba> unfo: it was ﻿22:58:10 (one hour ago) ;)
[23:02] <orgthingy> and,  i really hate to type root password for nmap all time
[23:02] <orgthingy> !flood | *!*@*!*
[23:02] <Crayboff> umm how do you make AWN start at startup?
[23:02] <Winston_SmithVT> whats a godd irc client other than xchat?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: sudo apt-get install netbeans
[23:02] <jrib> !irc > Winston_SmithVT
[23:02] <orgthingy> so, i really want sudo/root settings back
[23:02] <venger> lisa_, yes, close your eyes and offset your hands from the home row
[23:02] <orgthingy> hello? anyone?
[23:02] <ValentineX> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[23:02] <TheMaxzilla> How many MB should I set aside for WinXP for VirtualBox?
[23:02] <jrib> orgthingy: there isn't a root password by default unless you've changed something
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: get a gui and run it with gksu
[23:02] <orgthingy> jrib : I changed root password
[23:03] <orgthingy> and now, nmap wants my password everytime i login
[23:03] <orgthingy> which is annoying a bit
[23:03] <ValentineX> ActionParsnip: E: Couldn't find package netbeans
[23:03] <jrib> orgthingy: why?  just use sudo when you need to
[23:03] <kavon> orgthingy: I'M LISTENING TO YOU BABY
[23:03] <carandraug> TheMaxzilla: that depends on how much RAM you hvae and what software you'll run in Windows
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: you should log in as you, if you are a member of sudo you can change teh root pass
[23:03] <orgthingy> jrib : ok, i did a mistake, HOW can i FIX it?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: try tab completing after net
[23:03] <orgthingy> i login as me (not root)
[23:03] <jrib> orgthingy: sudo passwd -l root
[23:03] <orgthingy> but, nm-applet ***
[23:04] <orgthingy> nm-applet asks me for password everytime
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: are you a member of sudoers or admin?
[23:04] <orgthingy> really annoying
[23:04] <InHisName> http://pastebin.com/m7d4513c7  I will eat for next 20 minutes. be back at 20 after.
[23:04] <orgthingy> im in sudo.. but i have root password
[23:04] <lisa_> does anyone know how to scramber or encrypt all keystrokes entered into Ubuntu Firefox?
[23:04] <mortuis99> hi all is there a good utility to convert a .flv file to a avi or mpg file?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> lisa_: no idea sorry
[23:04] <orgthingy> i wish that i DIDNT change root password
[23:04] <Crayboff> does anyone know how to get AWN to start at startup. Ubuntu 8.04.01
[23:04] <orgthingy> i wonder how can i recover it
[23:04] <jrib> mortuis99: maybe ffmpeg
 lisa_: try downloading in in another system then email it <- it wont run on Linux, full stop
[23:04] <jrib> orgthingy: I just told you above
[23:05] <lisa_> ActionParsnip, ok ty anyay
[23:05] <TheMaxzilla> carandraug: Okay, I have plenty... does 615 sound good for a minimum?
[23:05] <lisa_> anyone else?
[23:05] <alkaliv2> lisa_, I just did a major google search for anything ubuntu related or a workaround for that addon.  And short of running ie6 in wine I can't see a way to do it on the forums
[23:05] <erUSUL> mortuis99: ffmpeg indeed "ffmpeg -i file.flv file.mpeg"
[23:05] <Midtronic> lisa_: the only thing I can think of is hijacking LD_PRELOAD and encrypting before FF actually gets any input.  This is also a terrible solution to the problem.  You're better off just encrypting and then pasting into FF, if it means that much to you
[23:05] <orgthingy> sudo passwd -l root  < what ill that do?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> lisa_: then i dont know and getting shirty is the best way to get ignored
[23:05] <carandraug> mortuis99: there's ffmpeg. It's command line. Easy to find a command that works with google
[23:05] <jrib> lisa_: no one knows your question just repeat it
[23:05] <jrib> orgthingy: yes
[23:05] <mortuis99> k im looking now
[23:05] <jrib> orgthingy: what you asked
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: are you a member of sudoers or admin
[23:05] <orgthingy> will that do *
[23:05] <orgthingy> ActionParsnip : sudo
[23:05] <ph0rensic> Crayboff: rc.local ??
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> mortuis99: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=467297&page=2
[23:05] <SurfnKid> what is a good data-encryption package to hide files in linux usb drives??
[23:05] <cygoku> What does "unknown option: -yuvmode mean" ??
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: sudo passwd
[23:06] <jrib> cygoku: it means the program doesn't have that option
[23:06] <orgthingy> ActionParsnip : brb, ill come back again
[23:06] <TheMaxzilla> Craffboy: System  -->  Preferences  -->  Sessions
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> cygoku: what are you trying to do
[23:06] <bert1> hi, how can i find out how much disc space is used, and how much is left... and also how much HDD is used by the swapfile ???
[23:06] <jrib> !sudo > orgthingy
[23:06] <ph0rensic> SurfnKid: I think i remember reading that the next release will have that built in
[23:06] <ValentineX> ActionParsnip: Yes i tried TAB it gave results but there netbeans is not listed
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> bert1: df -h
[23:06] <SurfnKid> really?
[23:06] <lisa_> jrib, ok i will
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: anything close?
[23:06] <jrib> bert1: and 'swapon -s' for swap
[23:06] <cygoku> ActionParship : I am using gmameui with sdlmame, it never said that before so I wonder where is the problem coming from.
[23:06] <lisa_> alkaliv2, ok thanks
[23:07] <carandraug> TheMaxzilla: it really depends on what you'll be running there. games like UT3 is out of question for example
[23:07] <aldarsior> SurfnKid: you could use luks
[23:07] <ph0rensic> SurfnKid: yah.. well it said to one or more folders, so I assume folders on a usb drive also
[23:07] <aldarsior> or enc-fs
[23:07] <jrib> bert1: free -m  may be more readable, sorry
[23:07] <lisa_> Midtronic, how would I encrypting and then pasting into FF?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> cygoku: id check man pages, you may need to configure the gui to not use that option
[23:07] <RandomGuy> This is weird, my ubuntu partition suddenly has nothing but lost+found and boot folders
[23:07] <ValentineX> ActionParsnip: what? i think no
[23:07] <madd> hello
[23:07] <bert1> ok, thanks ActionParsnip & jrib
[23:07] <bert1> =)
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans
[23:07] <cygoku> ActionParship : Why would it not use it suddenly ?
[23:08] <Zyark> Im having some problems with my desktop effects after editing my xconf.. could anyone pinpoint me as to why? http://paste.ubuntu.com/45959/
[23:08] <Midtronic> lisa_:  iirc, there's a pgp applet for the toolbar in gnome
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> cygoku: have yuo updated the system? it may have changed the program which now doesnt use that option dig around
[23:08] <madd> i made a udev stop; udev start, and my /dev/$volumegroup is gone, how do i get it back?
[23:08] <aldarsior> Zyark: you screwed it up.
[23:09] <aldarsior> Zyark: did you keep a backup?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> madd: does a reboot fix it?
[23:09] <cygoku> ActionParship : I did mess around with video driver yesterday.
[23:09] <Zyark> aldarsior: its just 3 lines i added
[23:09] <aldarsior> Zyark: which lines?
[23:09] <madd> ActionParsnip: i do not want to reboot ;-)
[23:09] <Zyark> the subsection in screen
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> madd: it can fix stuff, windows mentality does have its advantages
[23:10] <Zyark> aldarsior: *the subsection in screen
[23:10] <ERICHMOBILE> hey hey hey is there an app for invoicing in linux, similar to quickbooks?
[23:10] <linkmaster03> How do you change the default keyboard layout from the GNOME Keyboard manager?
[23:10] <aldarsior> Zyark: adding a second monitor is usually a lot more complicated than that...
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> ERICHMOBILE: like a money program
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> ERICHMOBILE: like gnucash
[23:10] <erUSUL> ERICHMOBILE: gnucash
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> ?
[23:10] <bert1> can anyone tell me why ubuntu needs a 3GB swap partition... I have a C2D & 2GB with ubuntu is never near maxing out...
[23:10] <madd> ActionParsnip: hmm havent windows at all, and also that mentality
[23:10] <erUSUL> !info gnucash > ERICHMOBILE
[23:10] <Zyark> aldarsior: well the dual monitor works, but my desktop effects got knackered :P
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> madd: me neither but reboots still can fix things
[23:11] <niche> !gnucash
[23:11] <d-vybes> aldarsior: shouldn't virtual be enough for a second monitor if you use xrandr?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> !find cash
[23:11] <bert1> ^^^ 2GB ram i ment
[23:11] <linkmaster03> lol paradox
[23:11]  * Midtronic wishes he had hash cash right now...
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[23:11] <ActionParsnip> !info gnucash | niche
[23:11] <FloodBot1> sexylive: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:11] <erUSUL> bert1: it does not need it. needs a swap == ram if you plan to hibernate (suspend to disk) becouse it copies all ram to swap
[23:11] <orgthingy> nope!!!
[23:11] <orgthingy> same problem
[23:11] <linkmaster03> sad
[23:11] <sexylive> live sex click here www.prize.bg/sexsimace
[23:11] <aldarsior> d-vybes: I don't know, I usually end up with an array of monitors and every device and monitor defined
[23:11] <ERICHMOBILE> well not personal finance necessarily but for sending clients invoices. not for tracking bank accounts of the personal nature, more business based
[23:11] <Flare183> wow
[23:11] <linkmaster03> How do you change the default keyboard layout from the GNOME Keyboard manager?
[23:11] <orgthingy> nm-applet asks me for root password AFTER I LOGIN DIRECTLY
[23:11] <orgthingy> it gets REALLY ANNOYING
[23:12] <aldarsior> d-vybes: Maybe I'm doing things the old fashioned way ;-)
[23:12] <orgthingy> anybody can help?
[23:12] <Flare183> !caps | orgthingy
[23:12] <pan__> how do i resize window in ubuntu
[23:12] <jrib> orgthingy: have you disabled the root password yet?
[23:12] <SurfnKid> ph0rensic: do you know a free public-vpn service ?
[23:12] <orgthingy> Flare183 : dude, bear with me
[23:12] <orgthingy> jrib  : ?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> ERICHMOBILE: do you just want some printed docs for formal invoices? please clarify
[23:12] <orgthingy> which command, jrib
[23:12] <pan__> i can move window by using alt press button on mouse
[23:12] <ERICHMOBILE> ActionParsnip, well not personal finance necessarily but for sending clients invoices. not for tracking bank accounts of the personal nature, more business based
[23:12] <jrib> orgthingy: sudo passwd -l root
[23:12] <carandraug> linkmaster03: System > Preferences > Keyboard
[23:12] <orgthingy> the ne you gave me about pass -l or whatever?
[23:12] <orgthingy> jrib : yup, tried it
[23:12] <tawfiq> hello
[23:12] <orgthingy> restarted my pc
[23:12] <Zyark> aldarsior: any advise? or do i have to do it the old fashioned way?
[23:12] <madd> ActionParsnip: i will try. bye
[23:12] <aldarsior> Zyark: try adding the glx line
[23:12] <bert1> ok erUSUL thanks =)
[23:12] <aldarsior> ummmmmmm
[23:12] <linkmaster03> carandraug: i know, that's what i'm in. But I can't find out how to change the default layout
[23:13] <ERICHMOBILE> ActionParsnip, woops...yeah something like that
[23:13] <orgthingy> loged-in, but same problem jrib
[23:13] <ph0rensic> SurfnKid: What exactly arte you trying to do
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> ERICHMOBILE: you could do a mailmerge i guess and use a template
[23:13] <Flare183> pan__: goto the lower right hand corner of a button until the mouse turns into a arrow then resize it
[23:13] <Zyark> aldarsior: need to be alittle more specific, still quite new to this
[23:13] <pan__> i know that already
[23:13] <carandraug> linkmaster03: mine has a tab called layout (but I'm on Intrepid)
[23:13] <pan__> i was wondering if i could alt + right click mouse and resize
[23:13] <ph0rensic> SurfnKid: Are you sure you dont mean a proxy server???
[23:13] <ERICHMOBILE> ActionParsnip, i used quickbooks to track invoices and and then printed to pdf and just sent that to client via email
[23:13] <Flare183> pan__: nope
[23:13] <ERICHMOBILE> so i want something like that
[23:13] <pan__> darn
[23:13] <aldarsior> Zyark: that is 'Section "Module" / Load "glx" / EndSection'
[23:14] <orgthingy> awww
[23:14] <pan__> anyone know how to hack pdfs?
[23:14] <orgthingy> nobody knows how to help"?
[23:14] <orgthingy> :(
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> pan__: define "hack"
[23:14]  * orgthingy is sad now
[23:14] <Flare183> !anyone
[23:14] <pan__> crack password
[23:14] <FloodBot1> orgthingy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <aldarsior> Zyark: replace the /s with eolns and don't include the single quotes
[23:14] <pan__> for pdf
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: did sudo passwd not help?
[23:14] <Flare183> pan__: Hold on
[23:14] <pan__> was wondering if anyone has tried
[23:14] <linkmaster03> carandraug: so does mine. i have two layouts. dvorak and qwerty. the radio button in the qwerty one is selected for default. how do I make dvorak the default?
[23:14] <Zyark> aldarsior: ill give it a try!
[23:14] <jrib> pan__: that's not supported here, please don't discuss it
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> pan__: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-crack-pdf-file-password.html
[23:14] <ValentineX> My update manager is hanged i am closing its not closing what to do?
[23:14] <aldarsior> Zyark: do you know how to restart X?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: ps -ef | grep update
[23:15] <aldarsior> Zyark: hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[23:15] <orgthingy> ActionParsnip : no, because nm-applet seems to be designed to ubuntu default root password...  now, nm-applet asks me for root password everytime i log-in
[23:15] <pan__> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[23:15] <erUSUL> ValentineX: sudo killall update-manager
[23:15] <orgthingy> i knwo root password, because i changed the default ubuntu one
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: there is not default root password
[23:15] <jrib> orgthingy: you just told me you disabled the one you set...
[23:15] <Zyark> aldarsior: that i know, but i dont have a section for module, should i create it then?
[23:15] <ompaul> !rootsudo | orgthingy
[23:15] <Midtronic> Should I have something appended to dmesg when I insert a dvd/cd?
[23:15] <carandraug> linkmaster03: mine shows a list of keyboards, and on the right, there's a box that you tick for default
[23:15] <aldarsior> yep
[23:15] <erUSUL> Midtronic: yep
[23:15] <orgthingy> ompaul : i know that i did a mistake
[23:15] <orgthingy> all i want is help me to fix it
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: if you run sudo passwd you enter your user password to get access, then you can set the root pass
[23:15] <linkmaster03> carandraug: the radio buttons on mine you cannot freely select
[23:15] <orgthingy> jrib : didnt work :(
[23:16] <jrib> orgthingy: erm.  You can still do 'su -' and login as root?
[23:16] <ompaul> orgthingy, that page tells you how to revert to not having one
[23:16] <orgthingy> ActionParsnip : i already did that
[23:16] <Midtronic> erUSUL: rats.  What to do when the entry is sporadic?  I can pastebin the output when I put an audio CD in there
[23:16] <orgthingy> guys, you dont seem to know my problem
[23:16] <Midtronic> sporadic meaning it only happens sometimes, with some discs
[23:16] <orgthingy> the problem is everytime i log-in, nm-applet asks for my root password (which i know, but it didnt before i changed it)
[23:16] <aldarsior> orgthingy: that's because you're not telling us what it is.
[23:16] <orgthingy> i dont want nm-applet to annoy me everytime i log-in and ask me for root password
[23:16] <carandraug> linkmaster03: hmm, don't know. I ave no problem selecting them. Is there any button with "unlock" somewhere?
[23:16] <erUSUL> Midtronic: well when you insert a blank cd it says : this disk has not tracks i recognice !!
[23:17] <jrib> orgthingy: did you see my question?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187874
[23:17] <linkmaster03> carandraug: nope, no unlock
[23:17] <kitche> orgthingy: so lock the root account then which is what exactly we are telling you to do and showing you how to do
[23:17] <erUSUL> Midtronic: but pastebin what you get and i tak a look
[23:17] <jrib> ActionParsnip: that's dated 2006
[23:17] <orgthingy> jrib : yea, but i want everything like it was.. (default ubuntu sudo and root settings)
[23:17] <Midtronic> erUSUL: I'll insert an audio CD and everything will crash trying to read it.  likewise with a DVD.  Sometimes, I don't get anything in dmesg at all
[23:17] <linkmaster03> carandraug: if you know the name of the utility i can just gksudo it. cause I have to go eat
[23:17] <jrib> orgthingy: can you answer my question?
[23:17] <ZeetreX_> hello
[23:18] <orgthingy> jrib : wait second
[23:18] <erUSUL> Midtronic: well there must bve some bug.... can you do the pastebin??
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> jrib: so are most of the man pages for ls command but it still applies
[23:18] <Greyhound|NB> how do you set file associations?
[23:18] <orgthingy> jrib : I DONT want to log-in as root
[23:18] <Midtronic> erUSUL: as soon as I find a CD that the box will recognize :-/
[23:18] <orgthingy> jrib : i want sudo.. but i still dont want nm-applet to ask me for password EVERYTIME i log-in :P
[23:18] <carandraug> linkmaster03: that's easy to find out. In the menu, right click and choose add to panel.- Then go to the panel (where the shortcut is) and select preferences. That's how I do to find out
[23:18] <aldarsior> orgthingy: how come I don't have an nm-applet?
[23:18] <jrib> ActionParsnip: not if you read the more recent replies
[23:18] <ImSoNewb> hi linux gurus, i am installing ubntu 8.04 on a newly built system. at the prepare partitions screen, it's not showing either of my SATA hdds, though they're detected by the BIOS. what should i do?
[23:19] <carandraug> linkmaster03: in your case, the command is "gnome-keyboard-properties"
[23:19] <kitche> !rootsudo | orgthingy if you want it to be the default way follow the guide in this link
[23:19] <jrib> ActionParsnip: and he wants to revert to behavior he once had which I doubt requires patching source code
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Greyhound|NB: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/03/ubuntu-linux-file-associations/
[23:19] <Greyhound|NB> thanks
[23:19] <ZeetreX_> how can i get notified of internet connection/disconn? (with playing a sound file)
[23:19] <orgthingy> wow, jesus, i know whats sudo
[23:19] <ValentineX> what are you all talking about :-s i hope i learn it all at ubuntu :)
[23:19] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: you've tried "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[23:19] <jrib> orgthingy: you aren't reading what I say.... Can you do 'su -' and login as root?  This is a question to determine if you still have a root account enabled
[23:19] <orgthingy> its just i want everything back... i know all sudo/root things :|
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: you'll learn by using your system
[23:20] <orgthingy> but maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187874 will solve my problem
[23:20] <aldarsior> ImSoNewb, do you have some sort of weird sata card?
[23:20] <orgthingy> jrib : ah, ok, im very sorry
[23:20] <Greyhound|NB> lol I just did that before you gave me the link, ActionParsnip, but thanks anyway :D
[23:20] <kitche> orgthingy: good for you if you aren't reading what we said the link in that sudo thing tells you what you need to do
[23:20] <ImSoNewb> carandraug: no, and i don't see a place to type in any commands
[23:20] <kitche> orgthingy: that is the 5th time I have said that and the last time
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> ZeetreX_: you could write a script to ping once then if it fails make a noise
[23:20] <ValentineX> ActionParsnip: learning from these channels daily :)
[23:20] <ImSoNewb> aldarsior: no, just plugged into the main board
[23:20] <orgthingy> orgthingy@orgthingy-laptop:~$ su -
[23:20] <orgthingy> Password:
[23:20] <orgthingy> su: Authentication failure
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Greyhound|NB: no worries dude
[23:20] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: Applications > Acessories > Terminal
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: another good way
[23:20] <ZeetreX_> ActionParsnip, how about the connecting?
[23:20] <orgthingy> kitche: so many people tell me at once... sorry
[23:20] <jrib> orgthingy: read the last comment on page 20.  That's probably more appropriate.  Good.  That means you have successfully disabled the root account
[23:21] <ImSoNewb> carandraug: the OS hasn't been installed yet. there are no menus.
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> ZeetreX_: how do you mean
[23:21] <ValentineX> ActionParsnip: which other good way? and any link from where i can learn use of sudo etc commands meanings and usage?
[23:21] <Midtronic|Lappy> erUSUL: going to restart to see if I can get that message back.
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: man <command>
[23:21] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: But the Live CD should load anyway. You'll have an experimental desktop with an "Install" in the desktop
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: or simple websearches
[23:21] <ZeetreX_> ActionParsnip, i mean when i connect to internet it play a sound ( to verifty the isp authentication was ok)
[23:22] <aldarsior> ImSoNewb: hit ctrl+alt+f1
[23:22] <erUSUL> Midtronic|Lappy: /var/log/messages* must have some of the messages archived
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: just remember its gksu for gui apps and sudo for cli apps
[23:22] <aldarsior> ImSoNewb: if that doesn't work, hit ctrl+alt+f2
[23:22] <aldarsior> then try f3
[23:22] <Midtronic|Lappy> erUSUL: nope, I was clearing the buffer to see what was new in it
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> ZeetreX_: dont you have a continual connection?
[23:22] <ImSoNewb> carandraug: ah ok. i do have the live CD but i'm not running it in live mode, just went straight to install
[23:22] <ValentineX> ActionParsnip: cli apps?
[23:22] <ZeetreX_> ActionParsnip, no, dialup connection
[23:22] <orgthingy> jrb : wait
[23:22] <orgthingy> application->accessories->password and...->edit->reference
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: cli == when you type in terminal
[23:22] <ImSoNewb> can you tell me what these keyboard commands do?
[23:22] <orgthingy> where's accessories > password, jrib ?
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: sure
[23:23] <aldarsior> ImSoNewb: it will direct you to a virtual terminal
[23:23] <jrib> orgthingy: in your Applications menu
[23:23] <aldarsior> ImSoNewb: where you can type commands, like fstab -l
[23:23] <orgthingy> but there isnt "password" under accessories, jrib
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: stuff like sudo apt-get update is a cli command
[23:23] <jrib> orgthingy: Passwords and Encryption Keys
[23:23] <aldarsior> er
[23:23] <aldarsior> fsck -l
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: as the activity it performs stays in terminal
[23:23] <bert1> can anyone recomend an image hostin website??? im have trouble using the popular ones...
[23:24] <aldarsior> er
[23:24] <aldarsior> fdisk -l
[23:24] <ValentineX> ActionParsnip: man command very helpful :D thanks
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: gedit is a gui app, so gksu is needed
[23:24] <aldarsior> I'm going rusty in my old age
[23:24] <lisa_> Midtronic|Lappy, what  pgp applet for the toolbar in gnome?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> aldarsior: sudo fdisk -l
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> aldarsior: or it wont let you
[23:24] <aldarsior> ActionParsnip: I think the install cd logs in to the vts's as root
[23:25] <Zyark> aldarsior: Hmm, your suggestion did not work. I still get desktop effects could not be enabled
[23:25] <orgthingy> jrib : thanks a lot, and sorry for being a stupid person :(
[23:25] <orgthingy> really sorry
[23:25] <orgthingy> but thanks!!
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> aldarsior: im not sure but i always use kdesu / sudo (i use kde)
[23:25] <aldarsior> Zyark: this is unfortunate
[23:25] <ImSoNewb> ActionParsenip: i pressed ctrl-alt-f1, it is now loading something
[23:25] <aldarsior> ActionParsnip: he's not installed yet
[23:25] <jrib> orgthingy: no problem and you aren't stupid :)
[23:25] <LeChacal> ok so how do i do a cli only install? on 7.04 i could do it from the alternative cd but i dont see it there anymore. And I don't want to use the server kernal if i dont have to.
[23:25] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: the command you need to memorize when you're there is "sudo fdisk -l" This will take a look at your disks and list all partitions. Once you get your system installed you'll have loads of time to try out the terminal
[23:25] <erUSUL> LeChacal: the alternatecd is there for hardy
[23:25] <ImSoNewb> my disks are brand new and not partitioned
[23:26] <ImSoNewb> i figured it'd be a simple partition and install =[
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: if you have unpartitioned space the installer will see it and offer to use it for ubuntu
[23:26] <LeChacal> erUSUL: i know it is there for Hardy I have it boot on the pc and i dont see the options to do a cli install
[23:26] <Zyark> aldarsior: Its the dual monitor doable the old fashioned way or am i limited to xrandr for my T60?
[23:26] <ImSoNewb> ActionParsnip: yeah that's what i thought, but it didn't
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: is the space unallocated
[23:26] <aldarsior> Zyark: it's doable, but I'm going home in 4 minutes and I don't know if I can explain it
[23:26] <erUSUL> LeChacal: cli install [23:27] <ActionParsnip> !paste | ImSoNewb
[23:27] <aldarsior> Zyark: try enabling the 3rd party drivers thingy?
[23:27] <linxeh> LeChacal: I installed from the alternative cd
[23:27] <Zyark> aldarsior: where do i find that?
[23:27] <LeChacal> erUSUL: yes that is what I want like a server only I want to use the normal kernel
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: can you paste the output to there and give us the link
[23:27] <linxeh> LeChacal: if you just want a CLI system you could install the server one
[23:27] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: you should have no problem. That command will show us if it's truly not seeing anything. You can use IRC from within the LiveCD so we can give you a hand once you're there
[23:27] <Zyark> aldarsior: through the synaptics package manager?
[23:27] <aldarsior> Zyark: no there should be a thingy
[23:28] <aldarsior> restricted driver manager?
[23:28] <kdnewton> For CLI, could install from the minimal ISO (just under 10MB). Will download the necessary files (and the latest already, so no updating afterward)
[23:28] <erUSUL> LeChacal: wasn't aware that the alternatecd allowed not installing a gui
[23:28] <aldarsior> I think it's in Administration or something
[23:28] <Midtronic|Lappy> erUSUL: of course, the reboot fixed it this time.  Thanks for almost having helped, anyway :-P
[23:28] <erUSUL> Midtronic|Lappy: ok
[23:28] <Zyark> aldarsior: lemme check
[23:28] <LeChacal> erUSUL: it did under one of the past version of ubuntu i thought it was under 7.04
[23:28] <ImSoNewb> ok i will try to run the live cd instead of installing straightaway, but after i hit ctrl-alt-f1 it has been loading something for a while and i see no indication of progress
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: yeah you can start from bootable kernel with some drivers and you can build yuor own system
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: did you md5 check the cd?
[23:29] <Midtronic|Lappy> I am getting a ton of IO errors with a DVD though.  Is that a bad DVD or a bad drive, or could be either?
[23:29] <Mecha25> Anybody a telnet guru?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: and the image?
[23:29] <aldarsior> ImSoNewb: go ahead and hard-reboot
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Mecha25: wassup?
[23:29] <orgthingy> YES! it worked!!
[23:29] <forexs> Does anyone know what the default mount point for ntfs partitions (autodetected) is? (can't see it in fstab or mount)
[23:29] <orgthingy> wooohooo
[23:29] <linxeh> Mecha25: what do you mean ?
[23:29] <orgthingy> thanks guys
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: what did you do?
[23:29] <aldarsior> orgthingy: that's what SHE said.
[23:29]  * orgthingy is ready to give something back to community 
[23:29] <linxeh> forexs: under /media
[23:29] <ImSoNewb> i've got 'loading ... please wait... kernel alive / kernel direct mapping tables up to 130000000 @ 8000-e000
[23:29] <Mecha25> I want to pipe a file into telnet, with a host and a port nmber
[23:29] <aldarsior> ImSoNewb: actually it's already loaded
[23:29] <carandraug> forexs: in /media
[23:30] <RonzO> helllllo everyone! how do i mount a CD so that wine can see it?
[23:30] <orgthingy> ActionParsnip : disable root account, and made unlock password as space and many other stuff..
[23:30] <ImSoNewb> lol i really am so newb
[23:30] <linxeh> Mecha25: use netcat
[23:30] <Mecha25> preferably using just shellscript
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: did you check the image you downloaded as well as the cd you burned?
[23:30] <aldarsior> ImSoNewb: you can hit ctrl+alt+f2 to get a terminal, or reboot into the livecd thingy
[23:30] <TheMaxzilla> !virtualbox | TheMaxzilla
[23:30] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: well blame that to be able to upgrade the system without reinstall ... only installed ubuntu twice a warty beta when only the alternatecd existed and the livecd of gutsy when jumped to 64 bits
[23:30] <orgthingy> aldarsior : guys = plural     :( i mena, all of you
[23:30] <orgthingy> but, oh, she ^_^
[23:30] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: XD
[23:30] <forexs> linxeh carandraug: Yeah thats what I thought.. It doesn't appear. But when I try to mount it, it says that the partition is already in use.
[23:30] <bert1> anyone know why i cant delete or move files i have just copyed to the desktop??? i keep getting permision denied errors...
[23:30] <aldarsior> goodnight kids
[23:30] <RonzO> helllllo everyone! how do i mount a CD so that wine can see it? im trying to get a game working
[23:30] <linxeh> forexs: try typing "mount" or checking the output of dmesg
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: i always reinstall due to most of my stuff being on networked drives
[23:30] <carandraug> forexs: try "df -h" to see where's it is mounted
[23:30] <ravalox> Hey, I have a projector hooked up to Hardy Heron, it has a native resolution of 1280x720; Ubuntu won't let me choose that resolution so my image is weird
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> !mount | RonzO
[23:31] <forexs> carandraug: doesn't appear on either
[23:31] <ravalox> I've tried nvidia-settings and it still won't give me that resolution.
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> RonzO: any mounted cd can be accessed with wine
[23:31] <forexs> linxeh: Doesn't appear in mount. I'll check dmesg
[23:31] <Mecha25> linxeh: WOOHOO! netcat is what I was looking for, thanks so much!
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> ravalox: have yuo installed your graphics drivers?
[23:31] <ravalox> You bet, the glx driver is here and kicking
[23:31] <RonzO> ActionParsnip, let me rephrase that. im trying to run an old dos game, and its asking for the CD. i have the ISO of it, mounted it with -o loop, but its not recognizing it
[23:32] <carandraug> forexs: does it appear in the Gnome menu Places?
[23:32] <ImSoNewb> ok at the terminal, sudo fdisk -l doesn't seem to do anything
[23:32] <forexs> linxeh carandraug: Come to think of it, its very possible that windows crashed hopeslessly during the last run and left some kind of lock on the fs.. More than likely even.
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> ravalox: so glxinfo | grep direct says is enabled?
[23:32] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: nothing at all?
[23:32] <ravalox> I can play games even, just can't seem to get the appropriate resolution out of the new ubuntu.
[23:32] <forexs> carandraug: I'm in KDE actually, and it appears in dolphin/konqi but isn't accesible
[23:32] <linxeh> forexs: what was the exact error when you tried to mount ?
[23:32] <carandraug> forexs: then you'll have to force mount
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> RonzO: what does it say when you try to rnu it?
[23:32] <ravalox> Yes, it direct rendering is enabled
[23:32] <ImSoNewb> well sudo fdisk gave me a list of options, but -l doesn't do anything
[23:33] <arooni> how do i list only directories with ls
[23:33] <forexs> linxeh: Mount is denied beacause NTFS is marked to be in use.
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> ravalox: have you added resolutions to xorg.conf?
[23:33] <forexs> carandraug: Yeah, thats the option I wanted to avoid though
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: sudo fdisk -l
[23:33] <linxeh> forexs: ok, someone else said, mount -f, or reboot it with windows and get it to clean up first
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: ell, not eye
[23:33] <ravalox> Yeah, I tried that and it just defaulted back to 1024
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> ImSoNewb: put it in a pastebin
[23:33] <forexs> carandraug linxeh: I think I'll try to give windows a spin actually, and let it close down properly
[23:33] <RonzO> ActionParsnip, "CD must be inserted in drive"
[23:33] <soundray> forexs: the most reliable thing to do is to boot Windows and shut it down cleanly before trying to mount it in Linux again
[23:34] <forexs> linxeh: Yeah, exactly
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> ravalox: are you editing it with gksu gedit?
[23:34] <ImSoNewb> ActionParsnip: yes, sudo fdisk -L
[23:34] <forexs> soundray:  yeah ^^^^
[23:34] <forexs> Well, thanks for the advise guys :)
[23:34] <RonzO> ActionParsnip, i have it mounted to /media/temp
[23:34] <eligos> hello
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> RonzO: id try dosbox if its a dos game
[23:35] <ravalox> sudo gedit
[23:35] <eligos> I have a very annoying problem with Nvidia drivers
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> RonzO: you can mount a folder as C: and /media/temp as D:
[23:35] <ravalox> That and nvidia-settings
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> ravalox: no you need gksu gedit for gui apps
[23:35] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: "sudo fdisk -l" <-- that's a small L just in case you entered a caps i
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> ravalox: can you show us your xorg.conf in pastebin
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> !paste | ravalox
[23:36] <RonzO> ActionParsnip, how would i mount it as D: in linux?
[23:36] <ph0rensic> is gksu and gksudo synonomous?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> RonzO: you do it in dosbox
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> ph0rensic: yes
[23:36] <eligos> I installed the latest driver version and was asked to reboot, but whe I did and tried to use the Nvidia card it froze, now it works on the integrated video again and only in low res¿can anyone help with this please?
[23:36] <RonzO> ActionParsnip, ok, ty
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> ph0rensic: one is linked to the other... i forgot which way...
[23:36] <Martiini> ph0rensic: gksudo is link to gksu
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> ph0rensic: no, gksudo uses roots settings, gksu uses users settings but gives the user root access
[23:37] <Cevan> Pardon me, but a friend referred me to here... can anyone help with a sound problem?
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> Cevan: wasssup
[23:37] <yuanjun> hell everyone
[23:37] <Odd-rationale> ActionParsnip: ls -l /usr/bin/ | grep gksu
[23:37] <yuanjun> where are you come from
[23:38] <ph0rensic> purgatory yuanjun
[23:38] <yuanjun> i come from  china
[23:38] <carandraug> !ask | Cevan
[23:38] <RonzO> ActionParsnip, does dosbox still follow the 6+2 filename scheme? ie, progra~1?
[23:38] <ravalox> What should I pastebin
[23:38] <ravalox> ?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> RonzO: indeed
[23:38] <RonzO> ActionParsnip, <3
[23:38] <yuanjun> nothing  only for play
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> ravalox: the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:39] <soundray> Odd-rationale: man gksu
[23:39] <yuanjun> i don't know what i can use the software
[23:39] <Cevan> Sorry... anyways, I'm fairly new with this and I'm trying to get Ubuntu to work with an X-fi sound card.
[23:39] <Krauss> Hey, I've got a 256MB RAM card, but Ubuntu says that it's 122.3 MiB.
[23:39] <carandraug> yuanjun: come to #ubuntu-offtpic This channel is for support
[23:39] <yuanjun> i know
[23:39] <ValentineX> wao ubuntu providing boots also for chatrooms :D
[23:40] <carandraug> !sound | Cevan
[23:40] <yuanjun> chatrooms  how can i join in it?
[23:40] <Krauss> !RAM
[23:40] <ravalox> xorg is up on pastebin
[23:40] <Odd-rationale> yuanjun: /join #ubuntu-offtpic
[23:41] <ravalox> That's an nvidia-settings one with my manual edit of 1280x720
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> Cevan: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=839248
[23:41] <ravalox> Still defaults to 1024 x 768
[23:41] <ravalox> and looks funky
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> ravalox: i need the link you got for the page
[23:41] <Krauss> Nobody can help me with my RAM?
[23:41] <strategy> Is there some sort of 'input' command for shell scripts?
[23:41] <ravalox> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/45974/
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> !ram > Krauss
[23:41] <ravalox> Right, sorry about that.
[23:41] <soundray> Krauss: what kind of card is that?
[23:41] <strategy> !ram > strategy
[23:42] <pan__> anyone here has a turion64 having problems with hibernation?
[23:42] <Krauss> Oh gosh
[23:42] <Cevan> Alright, I'll give those a check-up... if I end up with something more specific, I'll be back then. Thanks
[23:42] <yuanjun> thank you
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> ravalox: you pasted the text and clicked paste, you need to copy the address in the browser and put it in here
[23:42] <Krauss> soundray: I didn't look at the kind.
[23:42] <Krauss> soundray: I think it's SD
[23:42] <bluefox83> i need some help sshing to my box at home (yes it has openssh installed, and yes it's listed in dmz on the router) i need help setting ssh up to actually connect to it
[23:43] <ImSoNewb> nope, sudo fdisk -l doesn't get anything at all
[23:43] <ImSoNewb> should i just hard reboot and install from live cd
[23:43] <soundray> Krauss: what? I thought you said RAM?
[23:43] <ravalox> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/45974/
[23:43] <soundray> Krauss: oh, I see what you mean
[23:43] <soundray> Krauss: not used to SDRAM any more :)
[23:43] <keldrona> hello guys... I use linux kubuntu at home... but now I am at work and have a problem with f***ing windows... can you halp me? It's a problem about networks
[23:43] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: you're you installed the disks correctly?
[23:43] <fozilla> bluefox83: what are the problems connecting?
[23:43] <ravalox> I don't follow, I posted the link?
[23:43] <Krauss> soundray: Hehe, the laptop is about 3 years old
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> ravalox: heres mine: http://pastebin.com/fbee3fc3
[23:44] <Krauss> soundray: If not more
[23:44] <ImSoNewb> carandraug: i don't know what i could have done wrong, just plugged in SATA signal and power cables to the mainboard
[23:44] <Krauss> soundray: I opened it up, and the card says 256. But the computer is saying 122.3
[23:44] <bluefox83> fozilla, times out...all i know how to do is use the network ip, how do i direct it on to the machine i want? (192.168.1.5)
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> ravalox: backup the current xorg.conf and use the resolutions in my "screen" section in yours
[23:44] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: you also connected them to power source?
[23:44] <Krauss> soundray: Is that normal wear and tear, or should I be doing something?
[23:44] <soundray> Krauss: so it's a pre-DDR machine. Ubuntu has no role in the memory detection -- it's done by your BIOS. So a BIOS update may help (unlikely) or you may be stuck with what you have.
[23:45] <soundray> Krauss: you can go to Kingston or Crucial or another RAM reseller's web site and enter your laptop model in their search engines to see whether it's limited to 128 MB modules.
[23:45] <fozilla> bluefox83: ar you trying to connect to that ip from outside your home network?
[23:45] <Krauss> soundray: Hm...Ok. Thanks!
[23:45] <ImSoNewb> yes they are powered and show up in BIOS
[23:45] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: hmm. I don't them. But now I'm wondering if it's unpartioned space would appear in fdisk. Try cfdisk /dev/sda
[23:46] <bluefox83> fozilla, yeah i'm at work
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Krauss: or look on the laptop manufactuters site
[23:46] <Krauss> soudnray: Now what what that website be named?
[23:46] <Krauss> ActionParsnip: Or that
[23:46] <mirak> hi
[23:46] <soundray> Krauss: the other possibility is that you have shared memory graphics. Radeon R200M? In this case, you should check whether you can reduce graphics memory usage in the BIOS setup.
[23:46] <ValentineX> from synaptic which is good and full featured IRC messenger?
[23:46] <mirak> is there a photo tool like f-spot that handles videos ?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Krauss: as an example, my motherboard will only take 2 x 1Gb DDR2 sticks
[23:47] <fozilla> bluefox83: you need to connect using the external ip, and have your router configured to forward that to the internal ip
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> !irc | ValentineX
[23:47] <ImSoNewb> carandaug: sudo cfdisk /dev/sda results in FATAL ERROR: cannot open disk drive
[23:47] <strategy> ValentineX, xchat
[23:47] <Krauss> soundray: Oooh, that sounds interesting.
[23:47] <Krauss> soundray: never took that into consideration.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: bitchx has good script support or xchat is nce and light, i use pidgin
[23:47] <bluefox83> fozilla, but...that doesn't work either...
[23:47] <Krauss> ActionParsnip: This only takes one.
[23:47] <strategy> bitchx is command-line
[23:47] <ravalox> Sorry, that didn't work either
[23:47] <ravalox> This is a really stubborn problem.
[23:47] <fozilla> bluefox83: can you connect from another box on your lan?
[23:48] <bluefox83> fozilla, it's on the dmz list of my router...shouldn't that be enough?
[23:48] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: sorry. You have to prefix that command with sudo
[23:48] <bluefox83> fozilla, yeah
[23:48] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: oh, you did add sudo. Hmmmm
[23:48] <Krauss> soundray: Can the virtual memory be altered, as in Windows?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> ravalox: unfortunately you need to specify resolutions and refresh to get the full res yu want
[23:49] <fozilla> bluefox83: it might be trying to do a reverse dns lookup, then timing out...
[23:49] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: try also "sudo cfdisk /dev/hda"
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Krauss: make your swap partition larger
[23:49] <Krauss> ActionParsnip: How can that be achieved?
[23:49] <ravalox> So I need to go conservative on my refresh rates.
[23:49] <ImSoNewb> carandraug: i get the same error
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Krauss: resize partitions or get another disk and mount /swp there, how much ram do you have?
[23:50] <InHisName> ph0rensic: I finally finished, musta been famished.  the xorg.conf is very simple now. I could paste the log file but I doubt there is anything there either.
[23:50] <soundray> Krauss: RAM + swap is usually called virtual memory in Linux, so it can be altered by changing the size of your swap partition (but it's not recommended, since swap is extremely slow compared to real RAM)
[23:50] <ValentineX> ubuntu rules buntu rules :D thanks all thanks ActionParsnip :D
[23:50] <Wanderer> anyone know a good tool to mirror a website?
[23:50] <bluefox83> fozilla, if i just did: ssh <WAN ip> would that work?
[23:50] <Wanderer> have a site I need to 'backup' so it can be run from a local browser
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Wanderer: wget could help
[23:50] <Krauss> ActionParsnip:  The CARD says 256MB, the computer says 122.3MiB
[23:50] <Wanderer> yeah, tried that, but it won't do a --user --passwd login
[23:51] <soundray> Wanderer: wget (search wget for "mirror" to get some tips)
[23:51] <soundray> Wanderer: I mean search man wget
[23:51] <Krauss> soundray: So...Don't?
[23:51] <Wanderer> and doing http://user:passwd@<site> idsn't working
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Krauss: yikes, id be running fluxbox or xfce, not gnome
[23:51] <ph0rensic> InHisName: Can you just try to change the driver to vesa instead of nvidia or nv to see if you still get the crashing?
[23:51] <yi03dl8> does a niceness of 19 make the prcess high priority or low priority?
[23:51] <steven_> Hello all. What can I use in ubuntu to extract only the audio from a .mkv file into an .mp3 file.
[23:51] <yi03dl8> process*
[23:51] <Wanderer> err, --http-user
[23:51] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: there's an application somewhere called gparted. Look for it in the menus ( I don't have it installed so I don't know where it is)
[23:51] <InHisName> ph0rensic: Ok be back after boot and check.
[23:51] <Krauss> ActionParsnip: Gnome was sort of like a shell for me. I found it while wandering around. :)
[23:51] <soundray> Krauss: it's not going to help fiddling with swap
[23:51] <ph0rensic> ImSoNewb: sudo apt-get install gparted from cli
[23:51] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, 128MB is more than enough for gnome
[23:52] <phantomcircuit> if that's graphics memory i mean
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> steven_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=775117
[23:52] <fozilla> bluefox83: yeah, add your username though  user@ipaddress
[23:52] <abc1234567> problem with install updates - run a partial upgrade..... button for partial upgrade then a message saying error authentication
[23:52] <steven_> ActionParsnip: thank you sir.
[23:52] <dhodges> I wanted to read up on bash commands and scripting so in Synaptic I installed the bash-doc package, but cannot call that up or find it. Would anyone be able to tell me where to find it now that it's installed?
[23:52] <soundray> Wanderer: you should log into the site using firefox 2, then use its cookies.txt file with wget
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: id run somethig lighter but im a big fan of fluxbox
[23:52] <Krauss> soundray: So my best interest is to find out if my laptop can take more thanI currently have, and decide from there?
[23:52] <ravalox> That didn't work either
[23:52] <clint_> ok im sick of firefox...what can i use?
[23:53] <yi03dl8> please I need to know quickly ... the man page isnt clear
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> clint_: opera
[23:53] <siloko> aNYONE USE SUBVERSION?
[23:53] <bluefox83> fozilla, it just sits and blinks at me in terminal...any ideas?
[23:53] <siloko> sorry about caps
[23:53] <soundray> Krauss: no, the first thing I'd check is what exact kind of graphics card you have. 'lspci | grep VGA' if you don't know
[23:53] <jrib> siloko: just ask your question
[23:53] <Krauss> soundray: ATI
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> yi03dl8: whats up?
[23:53] <Krauss> soundray: I checked earlier because of the visual effects problem Ihad
[23:53] <clint_> what about konqueror
[23:53] <soundray> Krauss: then find out whether it has its own memory or whether it steals RAM. "ATI" is not detailed enough
[23:53] <yi03dl8> ActionParsnip: does a niceness of 19 make the prcess high priority or low priority?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Krauss: which model ati?
[23:54] <abc1234567> ﻿problem with install updates - run a partial upgrade..... button for partial upgrade then a message saying error authentication
[23:54] <Wanderer> soundray: I'll give that a try
[23:54] <Krauss> Let me check once more
[23:54] <Krauss> soundray: How is that done?
[23:54] <siloko> is it possible to checkout code from one subversion repository and import into another?
[23:54] <abc1234567> http://paste.ubuntu.com/45977/
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> yi03dl8: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_(Unix)
[23:54] <soundray> Krauss: I told you ^^
[23:54] <carandraug> dhodges: tried "locate bash-doc" ?
[23:54] <fozilla> bluefox83: there might be some ssh configs you could change, your work might block port 22, you might need to change router settings
[23:54] <Krauss> I mean the memory part
[23:55] <bluefox83> fozilla, i doubt it, i work at a college >.>
[23:55] <soundray> dhodges: enter 'info bash' in terminal to read the doc you installed
[23:55] <soundray> dhodges: also have a look at the introductory docs linked in the /topic of #bash
[23:55] <yi03dl8> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:55] <fozilla> bluefox83: check your logs at home, see if there are any failed attempts or clues there
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> yi03dl8: np man
[23:55] <Wanderer> sound: I'm trying this:   wget -m -N -np --cookies=on --load-cookies ~/cookies.txt http://site/wiki/index.php
[23:55] <Krauss> soundray: I meant the memory part. ;)
[23:55] <Wanderer> it gets the index and that's it
[23:56] <bluefox83> fozilla, aww, bummer...i was hoping to start tinkering with it tonight :/
[23:56] <soundray> Krauss: tell me what graphics card you have pls
[23:56] <cheeky> how do i navigate myself to the USB external hard drive that connected to my computer ?
[23:56] <fozilla> bluefox83: can you ping your home box?
[23:56] <Krauss> ActionParsnip:  soundray:  it's an RS300M AGP
[23:56] <soundray> cheeky: via the Places menu
[23:56] <treitter> is there any way to tell apt to not install a specific version of a package? (that version of the package breaks things, so I want to upgrade to the version before it only when I do "apt-get upgrade")
[23:57] <abc1234567> http://paste.ubuntu.com/45977/ - i cant seem to update my software properly any ireas ?
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Krauss: is it onboard or a proper graphics card?
[23:57] <Krauss> ActionParsnip:  soundray:  Radeon Mobility 9100IGP
[23:57] <jrib> !pinning > treitter
[23:57] <soundray> Krauss: that's a shared-memory card. You can increase your RAM by tweaking a BIOS setting
[23:57] <linkmaster03> carandraug: ok im back. i ran the keyboard manager through gksudo and the layouts were totally separate from the normal user layouts. like root and my user have different settings
[23:57] <Krauss> ActionParsnip: I don't understand that.
[23:57] <Krauss> soundray: which one would that be?
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Krauss: is this a laptop?
[23:58] <dhodges> thanks soundray
[23:58] <carandraug> linkmaster03: yeah. Makes sense. You and root are different users
[23:58] <soundray> Krauss: I think the setting has something like UMA in its name
[23:58] <Krauss> ActionParsnip: Yep
[23:58] <Krauss> soundray: Alrighty then
[23:59] <wat> whats command to install samba?
[23:59] <linkmaster03> carandraug: sooo how can i unlock the radio button
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Krauss: then the graphics card may be holding 128Mb for itself
[23:59] <jrib> !samba > wat
[23:59] <wat> thx :)
[23:59] <treitter> jrib: thanks!
[23:59] <Krauss> ActionParsnip: I think so. I'm about to take soundray's advice in a minute.