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diegociao a tutti00:34
diegonn so come funziona questa chat...00:36
diegoma ho dei problemi a installare il driver di un touchscreen su un toughbook00:36
diegonn so neanche se qualcuno parla italiano o no00:37
diegosono a cavallo00:37
machstemhey all, is anyone here?02:59
machstemI have an issue (more of a newbie question) on videos and video cards.03:00
machstemI have an ATI graphics card (8500, 32mb) that I put in here with Xubuntu 8.0.4.1.  It runs great under xfce but I notice all my videos, mostly online so far (i.e. youtube.com, gamespot.com videos, etc) chop and don't "refresh" properly.03:01
machstemThe sound works fine, but the video feels like in does in Windows when your system will show videos, but not well...or at least not well enough until you install the appropriate drivers.03:02
machstemThanks for any input/help regarding this.03:02
kinch1hi03:31
machstemhi03:31
kinch1I installed Virtualbox OSE on xubuntu 8.04, but the keyboard didn't work03:33
machstemI am a newb lol03:33
machstemI have also asked a question, but cannot answer any ;)03:34
kinch1It seems that03:34
kinch1SCIM has conflict with virtualbox03:34
firewall_03I am having trouble getting my wifi card to work with 7.04 its a Dlink Dwl-G650, and I have read through a lot of the docs ubuntus page06:24
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Muhammad_SaadHello, I was just curious what login manager Xubuntu uses. Is it GDM?08:57
ablomenMuhammad_Saad, yep09:00
mdkaneda55hey, how can i run xmodmap and xbindkeys at startup in XFCE? i tried adding lines to /etc/rc.local, but apparently it's running it too early and being canceled out or something..09:32
TheSheepmdkaneda55: system->autostarted applications09:47
TheSheepmdkaneda55: write a short script and add it there09:47
mdkaneda55must be omitted option in Mythbuntu... can i place a bash script in ~/.config/autostart/ ? that the same idea?09:49
TheSheepmdkaneda55: no, in there you place a .desktop file09:50
TheSheepmdkaneda55: sorry, its system->settings manager->autostarted applications09:50
whileimherehi is there a way to take a screenshot via a keyboard command?12:54
marchPerhaps via imagemagick: import -window root -display :0 ~/Desktop/PIC.png13:19
marchOoops - gone :-[13:20
machstemI have an ATI graphics card (8500, 32mb) that I put in here with Xubuntu 8.0.4.1.  It runs great under xfce but I notice all my videos, mostly online so far (i.e. youtube.com, gamespot.com videos, etc) chop and don't "refresh" properly.13:21
machstemThe sound works fine, but the video feels like in does in Windows when your system will show videos, but not well...or at least not well enough until you install the appropriate drivers.13:21
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RHDfantest15:59
RHDfanhas anybody successfully installed xubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron on XBOX (original, not 360)?16:02
Odd-rationaleRHDfan: try http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page16:03
RHDfanOdd-rationale: thank you for the link - I've read it and was able to install Breezy Badger on my Xbox, but breezy .iso had .xbe files and hardy .iso does not..16:05
Odd-rationaleRHDfan: ok. well i have not done the process myself... so i really can't help much further...16:06
RHDfanOdd- ok, thanks16:07
MarkopotamusWhen I log in to Xubuntu this error message comes up;16:08
Markopotamus User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users.16:08
MarkopotamusAnyone know what I can do about that?16:09
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: have you been playing with file permissions... ?16:09
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: don't worry. there is a way to fix that... :P16:10
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: Unfortunately I probably did, a while ago, before I had any idea what I was doing, trying to get Samba to work.16:10
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: oh goodie16:10
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: but first, do you have another account that you can log into that has root access?16:10
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: no... although I guess I could make one and delete this one.16:10
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: nevermind. then16:10
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: Would that work? I don't mind loosing this one.16:10
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: we'll just boot into recovery mode. then select "drop into root shell"16:11
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Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: are you on that machine right now?16:11
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: *paying close attention*16:11
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: yus. I could switch to the PC in the next room while doing as you say though.16:12
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: or are you on another machine?16:12
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: I'm on the same machine right now, but there's another I could use for IRC.16:12
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: ok. well you can do that, or you can right down the following steps...16:12
Markopotamusrightio16:12
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/4151616:13
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: Cheers, looking now.16:14
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: so basically, suppose $USER is the name of the locked out user.16:14
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: in recovery mode, do the following commands...16:14
Odd-rationalechmod -R 755 /home/$USERNAME16:14
Odd-rationalechown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER16:15
Odd-rationalechmod 644 /home/$USER/.dmrc16:15
Odd-rationalethen, shutdown -r now16:15
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: got that?16:16
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: *writing*16:16
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: remember to replace $USER witht the name of the locked out user.16:17
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: got it16:17
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: like: chmod -R 755 /home/mark16:17
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: *nod*16:18
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: good luck!16:19
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: Here I go! ttys, hopefully :p16:19
prinnehHi. I have been trying for the past two hours to erase and nullify all the ridiculous partition changes I've made to my USB stick in OSX. Everything seems to work fine, but in when I insert the disk in my xubuntu laptop everything just goes, er, topsytops. 4 different partitions, one of which accesses the files I've transfered from OSX onto the desk. Please, someone help me just delete everything and start all over with my usbstick.16:23
prinnehone = none.16:23
Odd-rationaleprinneh: try using gparted16:24
Odd-rationaleprinneh: it is in the repos... try searching synaptics for gparted16:24
prinnehDownloaded that, gave it a try - but the 'Boot OSX' partition is locked.16:25
Odd-rationaleprinneh: did you mke sure the disk was unmounted?16:25
Odd-rationalebefore you try editing the partitiong?16:26
Odd-rationalepartitions?16:26
prinnehActually, no, I didn't. Trying it now.16:26
prinnehaha!16:26
prinnehNo more locks :)16:26
Odd-rationale:)16:26
prinnehIs there a 'destroy everything' button in gparted ?16:26
Odd-rationaleprinneh: just select each partition and delete it.16:27
Odd-rationaleprinneh: changes will not take effect until you select apply. so it is safe to play around with partitioning schemes...16:27
prinnehgood good. Which filesystem would you recommend for usage on linux, osx and win ?16:28
prinnehThe fat one, maybe ?16:28
Odd-rationaleprinneh: yeah. FAT32, or fat1616:29
prinnehError :/16:29
prinneh'delete' partition failed.16:30
Odd-rationalehmm....16:30
prinnehforget the '', there once no sense in surrounding the perfectly ordinary word 'delete' with the '' 's16:30
prinnehwas*16:30
prinnehMy typing is just awkward today. I blame my partitioning troubles.16:31
Odd-rationaleprinneh: that is strange... you can try cfdisk...16:32
prinneh...cfdisk?16:32
nblhey16:32
Odd-rationaleprinneh: what device is the usb disk?16:33
Odd-rationalenbl: hi16:33
Odd-rationaleprinneh: /dev/sdb ?16:33
prinnehKingston 4gb.16:33
prinnehAh16:33
prinneh:/16:33
prinnehHow embarrassing.16:33
* prinneh fans himself in a shy Victorian manner16:33
prinneh/dev/sdc16:33
ozkugh_loll16:33
nbli know this is a wrong channel, but i have a problem or found a bug in BackupPC16:33
ozkugh_cfdisk!16:34
Odd-rationaleprinneh: ok so first "sudo umount /dev/sdc"16:34
ozkugh_the "pretty" fdisk16:34
Odd-rationaleprinneh: then sudo cfdisk /dev/sdc16:34
nblon my server that runs backupPC when i run perl -e 'print(gethostbyname("myhost") ? "ok\n" : "not found\n");'  i get "ok" no mater what i put in my host16:35
nblbut nmblookup myhost works fine16:36
prinnehsorry, my phone just rang. Quite insistingly.16:36
prinnehsec.16:36
Odd-rationalenbl: idk much about BackupPC. have you tried thier wiki?16:37
prinnehSorry, yes, right, i've run cfdisk now.16:37
prinnehWhat do I clickityclick ?16:37
Odd-rationaleprinneh: do you see the partitions format?16:37
Odd-rationaleprinneh: no click... all keyboard... :P16:38
nblOdd-rationale:  yea16:38
prinnehSays 'free space', 4 gigs of it.16:38
Odd-rationaleprinneh: that it?16:38
Odd-rationaleprinneh: pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"16:39
nblOdd-rationale:  the odd thing is in the code they first look up host by perl then if that fales, they try nmblookup16:39
Odd-rationalenbl: ok. well. idk then... sorry... :( i just use plain rsync...16:39
Odd-rationale!pastebin | prinneh16:40
ubottuprinneh: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)16:40
nblwhere can i get help, or report this?16:40
prinnehI'm on two different computers. I trying to fix the usb so that I can transfer an ubuntu image onto the usb from osx and then back to the linux laptop where I'll create an image with it, because osx fails to do so. If you give me a second though, I'll type it up for you.16:40
Odd-rationalenbl: well. on this page, there is a section on where to get help: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/16:40
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: any luck?16:41
prinnehI know pastebin, used it for products in the past. Still! Thank you for the information, it's delicious.16:41
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: Yes! Thankyou very much, it worked.16:41
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: I didn't type it right the first time but the second time it did the trick.16:41
Odd-rationaleMarkopotamus: what did you do the first time?16:42
prinneh(and the wireless appears to be broken on the linux laptop)16:42
MarkopotamusOdd-rationale: just typos. Spaces in the wrong place. Caps wrong. Silly mistakes, I had to come back into my account to check.16:42
prinnehHowever, it does actually as from fdisk -l that "Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table"16:43
Odd-rationaleprinneh: oh ok...16:43
prinnehRight.16:45
smm289Hello, i've been using ubuntu on my laptop and my girlfriend is interested in using a linux system on her laptop.  She is not the most computer savy person and mainly just uses the internet, email, and myspace.  I want to set her up with xubuntu but I would also like to give her the eye candy of compiz.  Can I install compiz on a xubuntu system16:45
Odd-rationaleprinneh: you said on cfdisk, there was 'free space' entry. was that the only entry?16:46
Odd-rationalesmm289: yes you can16:46
prinnehI used cfdisk to repartition the drive listed as free space as W95 fat32, then I used the fdisk -l command to see if it worked, and cfdisk now lists dev/sdc1 as Fat32, which is a lot better than before.16:47
smm289perfect.  can i install any package that I use in ubuntu on an xbuntu system.  Just that xbuntu comes by default with a very simple interface?16:47
Odd-rationaleprinneh: ok good. no try gparted16:47
Odd-rationalesmm289: correct. xubuntu has xfce. which is a lightweight desktop environment...16:47
Odd-rationaleprinneh: now*16:48
Odd-rationalesmm289: but, if your machine can run compiz, then you might be better off with ubuntu (gnome)...16:48
smm289I am really starting to love ubuntu :) especially the great community and its tech support16:48
smm289if I am running a live CD of xbuntu, can I install the compiz package to see how it works on her laptop16:49
prinnehOdd-rationale, Gparted lists the space I just formatted as fat32 as unallocated. Plus an unknown partition at dec/sdc1 consisting of 31 kb.16:49
Odd-rationaleprinneh: can you delete them now?16:49
smm289its fairly new, dell e1405 core 2 duo, it just has an integrated graphics16:49
Odd-rationalesmm289: yeah, then ubuntu might give a better expereince into linux, also it integrates better with compiz, and there is much more/better support for ubuntu, than xubuntu....16:50
prinnehI can't delete the tiny one, but since it's so small, I'm thinking maybe that's okay?16:51
smm289ya i'm torn between the two.  I just want to give her the simplest interface as possible. I figured a base install of xbuntu would do the job, and then I can add a few packages to spice it up a little, but mainly it would stay simple for her16:51
Odd-rationalesmm289: ubuntu is quite simple... :D16:52
prinnehOdd-rationale, I can't change the allocated space (3.something gb) to fat32 either though.16:52
smm289ya i know, just that xbuntu is even simplier ;)16:52
Odd-rationaleprinneh: hmm. make sure it is not inside a logical partition. if it is, delete the logical partition too...16:52
Odd-rationalesmm289: ok. well linux is all about choices... :P16:53
prinneh!logicalpartition16:53
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:53
smm289very true16:53
prinnehOdd-rationale, Sorry, what's a logical partition frame thing ?16:53
Odd-rationaleprinneh: anyway you can get me a screen shot of the gparted window?16:53
nblis there a way to search in xubuntu though file and folders16:54
prinnehWait a minute, gparted just gave me an error when I tried to change the tiny 'unknown' partition into fat32, and when I clicked ok then the partition was gone.16:55
prinnehNow all I've got left is 'unallocated', 3.72 gb.16:55
Odd-rationaleprinneh: ok whatever... :P can you put one big partition in there?16:55
Odd-rationalenbl: you can install something like tracker or beagle. or you can ues a terminal and the old-style locate command... :P16:56
prinnehYeah, I just did!16:56
prinneh:D16:56
Odd-rationaleprinneh: :D16:56
prinnehDon't know how we got through that. Felt a bit like trying to fix a broken window with a penguin.16:57
Odd-rationalenbl: you might have to "sudo updatedb" to update the database for locate...16:57
Odd-rationalenbl: the the syntacs is simple: locate <string>16:57
nblcan i give it a start dir16:57
Odd-rationalenbl: man locate fot more infl16:57
Odd-rationaleinfo16:57
Odd-rationalealso read about find16:58
prinnehOdd-rationale, still can't mount it though.17:00
nblhow to i get out of man?17:00
Odd-rationalenbl: q17:00
nbli dont think locate will help me17:00
Odd-rationaleprinneh: after you create a fat16 partition, did you apply changes?17:00
prinnehactually, it was a fat32, and yeah, I did.17:00
prinnehNow I changed it to the default instead.17:01
prinnehStill can't mount it.17:01
Odd-rationaleprinneh: ok. can you: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt17:01
Odd-rationale?17:01
Odd-rationalenbl: ok...17:01
prinnehyeah...17:02
prinnehProbably should have tried that.17:02
Odd-rationaleprinneh: did that work?17:02
prinnehAppears to be working, hold on, I'll just test with some file transfer.17:02
Odd-rationaleprinneh: to unmount do: sudo umount /dev/sdc117:03
prinnehOk.. It's just that I can't transfer files there.17:03
Odd-rationaleprinneh: you can't copy files over to /mnt?17:03
prinnehThere's a folder there, with a tiny cross, called lost+found.17:03
prinnehNo, I can't.17:03
Odd-rationaleprinneh: no, don't move files into lost+found17:04
Odd-rationaleprinneh: can you copy file over as root?17:04
zoredacheare you sure you created a fat32 partition?  you usually don't get lost and found on fat17:04
prinneh[18:00:49]   <prinneh> actually, it was a fat32, and yeah, I did.17:04
prinneh[18:01:00]   <prinneh> Now I changed it to the default instead.17:04
prinnehYeah, I'm on that now.17:04
Odd-rationaleyeah lost+found is usually found in journaling filesystem...17:05
prinnehYeah, it works as root.17:05
Odd-rationaleprinneh: ok. well. ext3 is probably not the best chioce for a esb drive...17:05
Odd-rationaleusb17:05
prinnehDoesn't seem like it, no.17:05
Odd-rationaleprinneh: and i know why you can only copy files as root... it is a slight bug in gparted...17:06
prinnehsexy.17:07
prinnehGive me a sec, I'll change it back.17:07
Odd-rationaleok17:07
prinnehNow it's fat32 and without the lost+found.17:08
Odd-rationaleprinneh: can create files on the usb drive?17:08
prinnehstill need to be root to copy anything over.17:08
Odd-rationalehmm. ok. unmount it...17:08
zoredacheif you manually mount it only root will have write permissions17:09
Odd-rationalezoredache: correct...17:09
Odd-rationalelet's try to get hal to mount it...17:09
prinnehdevice is busy :/17:09
Markopotamuscheers, Odd-rationale. Im off.17:09
zoredachewhen you mount you can pass an option to set a uid mount /dev/fat /mnt -o uid=prinneh17:09
Odd-rationaleprinneh: make sure you are not in the dir...17:10
prinnehOh I'm such a tosspot.17:10
prinnehThere wego.17:10
prinneh *17:10
Odd-rationaleprinneh: try removing the device from the usb port... and then plug it back in... see if it automounts now...17:11
prinnehIt did, and I don't have to be root to write!17:13
prinnehHurrah!17:13
Odd-rationalecool17:13
Odd-rationalesee if it works on osx, too17:13
prinnehIt does!17:14
Odd-rationaleok good.17:14
prinnehthank you!17:15
Odd-rationalenp17:15
Odd-rationaleprinneh: now what were you saying about you wireless in linux?17:15
nblOdd-rationale: i could not find any help on there main page, and i cant find where they run the perl gethost lookup17:21
nblrunning out of options....17:21
Odd-rationalenbl: tried the mailing lists?17:21
nblwont that be alittle to much to spam every one over a simple bug, or user error?17:23
prinnehOdd-rationale, yeah, wireless disappeared.17:32
prinnehDon't know where it got to.17:32
Odd-rationaleprinneh: on upgrade?17:32
prinnehIndeed.17:32
Odd-rationaleprinneh: from gutsy?17:33
prinnehFrom I don't know what :(17:33
prinnehYeah, gutsy to herring.17:33
prinnehThat's the latest one, right?17:33
Odd-rationaleprinneh: gutsy --> hardy17:33
prinnehAnyway, I updated and it went.17:33
Odd-rationalehmm. ok does lspci still list your card?17:34
prinnehyeah.17:34
Odd-rationaleprinneh: ok. does iwconfig list your wireless device?17:34
Odd-rationalelo, eth0, eth1, wlan0 ?17:35
prinneheth0 and lo is there, but no wireless extensions17:35
Odd-rationaleok. what chipset?17:35
prinnehAtheros.17:35
Odd-rationalewhat does lspci | grep Network report?17:36
Odd-rationale"lspci | grep Network"17:36
prinnehI have no idea how to do the | on my keyboard.17:36
Odd-rationaleprinneh: above enter?17:36
Odd-rationale\|17:36
prinneh*my Danish keyboard17:36
Odd-rationaleoh ok...17:37
Odd-rationalecopy paste?17:37
prinnehI guess I could use the USB :D17:37
prinnehhaha17:37
prinnehI'll do it!17:37
Odd-rationaleok nvermind....17:37
Odd-rationalejust get me the model number....17:37
Odd-rationaleetc17:37
prinnehk, sec.17:38
prinnehJust trying something, I'm not sure I need the wireless after all.17:38
prinnehOkay, I do need the wireless, but I also need to leave.17:43
prinnehNot the best combination, I know, but I have to.17:43
Odd-rationaleok. well the i'll see you later...17:43
prinnehThank you for all your help though, hopefully you'll be here when I return ;)17:43
Odd-rationaleok np17:43
sascha_hi17:47
sascha_got a prob with xubuntu 8.04 , gdm crashes after login17:48
sascha_syslog says then kernel: [ 1089.295348] xfce4-session[8752]: segfault at b718933b eip b718933b esp bfe7252017:48
Odd-rationalesascha_: after login?17:48
sascha_yes.. username, password.... then the screen should appear, but restarts gdm17:49
sascha_and then back to login17:49
Odd-rationaleoh ok... must be xfce4-session that is crashing...17:50
zoredacheis this a new install?  Or was it working and then broke?17:51
sascha_working and then broke17:52
zoredacheI don't know that it will help, but I would be tempted to delete the session cache17:53
Odd-rationalesascha_: hmm. try this. go to ctrl+alt+f2. and login there. the do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then "sudo startxfce4"17:53
sascha_same behavior17:55
sascha_now with a lot of different error messages from starting applets17:56
Odd-rationalesascha_: ok try then to rm -rf ~/.cache17:56
Odd-rationaleand rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4-session17:57
sascha_does this was supposed to kill my settings?18:00
sascha_like desktop, autostart, applets18:01
Odd-rationalesascha_: not all. just (hopefully) the ones that may be causing problems18:01
sascha_it runs... but all settings gone18:01
Odd-rationalesascha_: if you want to remove all your xfce settings, the remove (or rename) the entire ~/.config dir18:02
Odd-rationalesascha_: but you can log in now? right?18:02
sascha_yes18:02
sascha_via startxfce418:02
sascha_will now try via gdm18:02
Odd-rationalesascha_: good enuf... :P18:02
Odd-rationalesascha_: ok. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart18:02
sascha_works too.. with settings back, I fogort I was in a root shell18:04
sascha_so looks good18:04
Odd-rationaleok. :D18:04
sascha_so what made the final trick now?18:04
sascha_whats in .config/xfce-sessio18:05
sascha_n?18:05
zoredacheyou can go look, it should have been recreated18:05
zoredacheOn my system it is just a config file that stores info about if you want to use saved sessions18:06
sascha_so not really important18:07
Odd-rationalei just (accidentally) pulled my power cord... :(18:07
zoredachedon't do that18:09
sascha_anyway.. thanks18:14
mythboxhas anybody installed 0.9 from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=54192&package_id=17901718:52
zoredachewhat is that?18:54
mythboxxubuntu for xbox18:54
mythboxbut it's based on breezy badger and I'm looking for hardy heron ;(18:54
mythbox## All officially supported packages, including security- and other updates18:57
mythbox deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted18:57
mythbox deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted18:57
mythbox deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted18:57
mythbox ## The source packages (only needed to recompile existing packages)18:57
mythbox #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted18:57
mythbox #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted18:57
mythbox #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted18:57
mythbox ## All community supported packages, including security- and other updates18:57
mythbox deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse18:57
firewall_03I burned the iso and it doesn't seem to be working properly could the iso be junk?19:06
zoredacheit could be19:13
zoredachedid you verify the checksum of the iso you downloaded?19:13
bytor4232What iso did you download firewall_03?19:23
jpotexHow do you simply add an icon theme in xubuntu? Been looking, but I dont figure it out.19:30
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BreakXXHellO?19:31
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: hi19:32
BreakXXHey, how is it going?19:32
Odd-rationale!themes | jpotex19:32
BreakXXAre you Xubuntu support?19:32
ubottujpotex: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy19:32
jpotex!changethemes19:32
Odd-rationale!changethemes19:32
ubottuThemes for Xfce4 are simply GTK2+ themes which means Gnome themes are also compatible with your xfce4 desktop. To install themes, unpack it in ~/.themes/  To install icons, unpack them to ~/.icons/ - Visit http://www.xfce-look.org/ for all kinds of eyecandy for your Xfce4 desktop! - See also !themes for other GNOME theme sites19:32
Odd-rationaleyeah :D19:32
BreakXXSo you can help me, lol.19:33
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: i hang around here...19:33
BreakXXOh, well I have a question wanna give it a shot?19:33
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: well, just ask. if anyone here know the answer, they will probably tell you :P19:33
BreakXXOkay19:34
BreakXXI am installing Xubuntu on an old Compaq Presario (just to mess around with)19:34
jpotexOdd-rationale: Nice, thanks :)19:34
Odd-rationalejpotex: np19:34
BreakXXMore specifically xubuntu 6.0619:34
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: why old version?19:34
BreakXXAnd I have tryed installing in text mode and oem mode, I choose to wipe the whole harddrive19:34
BreakXXBut it always gets hung up while installing the base system19:35
BreakXXspecifically at 6%19:35
BreakXXand says it cant download all these random files19:35
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: have you tried 8.04?19:35
BreakXXBecause xubuntu 8.04 did the same thing =)19:35
BreakXXI think it maybe because there is stuff on the harddrive19:35
BreakXXMore spefically windows, but I choose to install it over windows (aka wipe the drive)19:35
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: it is probably the best xubunt release yet.. :P19:35
BreakXXOkay, let me try it again, I'll tell you the errors it gives.19:36
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: ok. well. did it give any erorr meesage? or just take a long time?19:36
BreakXXError messages19:36
BreakXXLet me reburn 8.04 it will just take a minute =)19:36
Odd-rationaleok19:36
Odd-rationalealso, 6.04 is no longer suported anyways....19:37
BreakXXYeah, I read that.19:37
BreakXXOkay19:37
BreakXXI have 8.0419:37
BreakXXalternate19:37
BreakXXand desktop19:37
BreakXXThe harddrive is already wiped19:37
BreakXXso I need the alternate?19:37
Odd-rationaleyeah. the alt cd is probably better for older hardware...19:38
BreakXXI read that also =)19:38
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: sorry, i meant 6.10 is no longer supported...19:38
Odd-rationale!edgy19:38
ubottuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) was the fifth release of Ubuntu. It is now in end of life, and is unsupported. Please upgrade to a newer release.19:38
BreakXXI really hate coming here but I burn the disk properly and it always gets hung up19:38
Odd-rationale6.04 will be supported for one more year i think...19:39
BreakXXOh19:39
Odd-rationale!dapper19:39
ubottuUbuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.19:39
BreakXXJune 200919:39
BreakXXMeh, the computer isnt to horrible.19:39
BreakXXIt should be able to word process and browse pretty easily.19:39
BreakXXI should dual boot this computer.19:39
BreakXXBut I have never messed with linux :-D19:39
Odd-rationalewell, i hope you will enjoy it...19:40
BreakXXI hope I do to, if I could get the darn thing installed =)19:40
Odd-rationalei had my ubuntu install take a long at the 6% thing...but it eventually contiued...19:40
BreakXXJust through the research I have done I think it's awesome how effencient it is at using system resources.19:40
BreakXXOh no, I get a lot of errors.19:40
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: did you check the md5sum of the iso?19:41
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: and the integrity of the disk?19:41
BreakXXYes.19:41
Odd-rationaleboth?19:41
BreakXXLike when it boots up it offers the check disk thing19:41
BreakXXI did that19:41
BreakXXand I read before burning the disk to check the md5sum of the iso19:42
BreakXXI downlaoded from official sources and used InfraRecorder to burn the disk19:42
BreakXXIt seems solid19:42
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: ok how about md5sum? do they match?19:42
BreakXXEh19:43
BreakXXYou got me lost o.019:43
Odd-rationale!md5sum19:43
BreakXXOkay the computer booted19:43
ubottuTo verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more19:43
BreakXXSelecting the language19:43
Odd-rationaleok19:43
BreakXXIt detects hardware and alll that just fine.19:44
Odd-rationaleok19:44
BreakXXIm at the usenrame part and network username19:44
BreakXXLet me do all this19:44
Odd-rationaleok19:44
BreakXXIt's like your right beside me!19:45
BreakXXOkay it's at the pratition disks.19:45
BreakXXThere is four methods19:45
Odd-rationaleuse entire disk?19:45
BreakXXI want to do Guided - use entire disk19:45
Odd-rationaleyeah.19:45
BreakXXThen it asks to right changes19:46
BreakXXClick yes...19:46
Odd-rationaleok19:46
BreakXXOkay now it's installing the base system19:46
BreakXXat 6%19:46
Odd-rationaleok...19:47
BreakXXLol, I bet you get annoying people like me all the time.19:47
BreakXXOkay here is the first warning19:47
BreakXXDebootrapt warning Warning: Couldnt download package netbase19:48
BreakXXI go to continue I am guessing?19:48
BreakXXboostrap*19:48
Odd-rationalehmm. you should check the integrity of the disk...19:48
BreakXXOkay19:49
BreakXXI do that at the boot screen correct?19:49
Odd-rationaleyes19:49
BreakXXOkay checking it for defects19:50
BreakXXI did this yesterday and it ran through it all19:50
BreakXXXubuntu better be fun to mess around in, lol all this effort.19:51
BreakXXAt 40% no problems :-[19:54
BreakXXGheyy19:57
BreakXXGot an error.19:57
Pirate_Hunterhi anyone around that can help me?19:57
zoredache_!anyone19:57
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?19:57
Pirate_Hunterhow do i get four workstation with compiz on xubuntu19:57
BreakXX./pool/main/p/python2.4/python2.5-minimal_2.5.2-2ubuntu4_i386.deb19:58
Pirate_Hunteri haven unninstalled it cause all my windows and icons are being pushed up and dont the top part with the close,minimise, hide how do i fix that?19:58
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: so failed?19:58
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?19:59
BreakXXYes failed, I am redownloading it I guess, thank you for the help.19:59
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: i had but didnt see the option there to add more worksations19:59
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: im installing it again20:00
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: before you redownload. check the md5sum of your current iso you have...20:00
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: ok. well tell me when you have it... also, while you're at it. install emerald... you will need it for the window decorations...20:00
Odd-rationale!md5sum | BreakXX20:01
ubottuBreakXX: To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more20:01
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: ok20:01
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: if the md5sums are the same, then you probably just need to reburn... slooower...20:01
bytor4232BreakXX: Or, its possible, you have a bad burner.  They do die.20:02
BreakXXOh it was at maxburn rate.20:02
BreakXXTrying to find a windows md5sum checker20:02
bytor4232BreakXX: I've had several die on me.20:02
BreakXXHm20:02
BreakXXTrue, but burning slower will help?20:02
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: can you tell me how to fix my windows they are being pushed to the top left had corner of the screen, i cant move them or minimise them it really annoying, it started happening after installing compiz and still hasnt fixd itself?20:03
zoredache_BreakXX: I like http://www.md5summer.org/20:03
=== zoredache_ is now known as zoredache
BreakXXZoredache_: Thank you20:03
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: yes. burning slower may help...20:03
bytor4232Pirate_Hunter: Your window manager is probably missing20:04
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: do you have compizconfig-settings-manager now?20:04
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: im looking at synatic now it shows the menu bar with file, edit etc but not the top menu bar with minimise, close, etc and yeah compiz is now installed with emrald20:05
bytor4232Pirate_Hunter: Hit ALT-F2 and either run "xfwm4" or "compiz --replace" depending on what you ahve.20:05
bytor4232Pirate_Hunter: I mean, what wm you want to run.20:05
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: ok. well first you need ccsm. so that we can specify emerald as the wm for compiz...20:06
Pirate_Hunterbytor4232: ive just installed xubuntu a while ago and tried compiz which messed the default wm20:06
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: i have to installed that?20:06
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager20:07
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: got that20:07
Pirate_Hunterbytor4232: yah thanx all i ahd to do is run xfwm4 to fix it for now, time to try getting compiz working again20:07
BreakXXPassed md5sum check20:07
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: then go to applications --> settings --> CompizConfig Settings Manger20:07
BreakXXI am burning at 4x just to be safe =)20:07
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: ok. try burning slower and then check the cd integrity...20:08
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: done that20:08
BreakXXThanks again guys, you all are really helpful.20:08
BreakXXY'all should get payed or something!20:08
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: ok go to window decoration20:08
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: make sure it is enabled...20:08
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: yup20:09
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: where it says command, put "emerald" without the quotes...20:09
nubuntuthe news is killing me.  it seems like every time i start opening stories from the electronic newspaper i get from panama, everything gums up on my computer.  i can only assume something on their pages doesn't get along with xubuntu.  this is a page from it:  http://prensa.com/t.asp?d=080911e1515485  , i wonder if any of you developer types might have a clue what causes the problem?20:10
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: you have emerald installed, right?20:10
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: yup20:10
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: done20:10
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: ok. now goto general options20:10
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: done20:11
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: in the desktop size tab, set H=4, V=1, and #of desktops =120:11
Odd-rationalethen close and restart compiz...20:12
bytor4232Pirate_Hunter: Once you have your window manager set up the way you want it (either compiz or xfwm4) close everything and go to Applications - Quit, and log out or reboot.  Make sure you select "save sessions for future" box is checked.20:12
bytor4232Pirate_Hunter: I actually add "compiz --replace" in Applications - Settings - Autostarted Apps just to make sure it starts.20:13
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: yah it works will log out anyway just incase but why does the top of the box shows nothing it is yellow and ugly20:13
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: you have to change the emerald theme...20:13
Pirate_Hunterbytor4232: did that and im sure xubuntu saves my session automatically it should...20:14
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: thanx i thought xubuntu would be like ubuntu but i guess there are lots of differences and i need to get used to them20:15
ozkugh_yummy20:15
ozkugh_rice a roni20:15
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: there are some differneces. but basically the same...20:16
Pirate_Hunterbytor4232: hmmm xubuntu didnt save the session with compiz, where would i find the option to force it to do so20:16
ozkugh_that would be cool if xubuntu came with a gui front end for grep20:16
Odd-rationaleit is just the ubuntu devs wrote stuff to automate most of this...20:16
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: true i just need to know where everything is20:17
Odd-rationaleozkugh_: :?20:17
ozkugh_likeo on the fm if there was a hotkey to open a search field and it looks up files as you type using grep20:18
Pirate_Hunterwhat is the point of having an automatic session save when it saves programs youve installed on that session but not the freaking compiz settings20:19
ozkugh_i never used the save sessien option before20:19
Odd-rationaleozkugh_: in the fm. if you just start typing it will highlight the closest match...20:20
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Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: how do i make it start compiz on login, ive ticked automatically save session and tried compiz --replace but it doesnt work20:20
ozkughOdd-rationale, im talking about searhing for text INSIDE the file20:20
ozkughnot the file name20:20
Odd-rationaleozkugh: oh ok...20:20
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: add a new autostarted application?20:20
ozkughthe command grep already does this20:20
Odd-rationalecat | grep20:21
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: lol thats what im doing now and what is the auto save session for doesnt xubuntu do that anyway especailly if you start stuff on login?20:21
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: i think it should... i don't use it myself...20:22
Odd-rationalePirate_Hunter: anyways, do you have a window border now? and four-sided cube?20:23
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: hmmm weird using aut started app  when i login it starts xubuntu without compiz than it enables compiz but yeah now i have it hooray20:23
Odd-rationaleok. well i gtg then... see you all in a bit... :P20:24
Pirate_HunterOdd-rationale: bye ty20:24
prinnehOdd-rationale, :)20:48
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: any success?21:09
Odd-rationaleprinneh: hi21:09
prinnehOdd-rationale, just wanted to thank you again. I'm installing ubuntu-eee now, it's a notebook remix for the Asus eee.21:12
prinnehCouldn't have done it without your help.21:12
prinnehI'll return to xubuntu when I have a machine more worthy of it.21:12
Odd-rationaleprinneh: you have an eeepc?21:13
prinnehYeah.21:13
prinnehAnd an old ibook.21:13
prinnehKinda missing the days of huge noisy stationary machines.21:14
Odd-rationaleok cool...21:14
prinnehyou?21:15
Odd-rationalei have an old compaq... evo n800c21:16
bytor4232Wicked21:21
bytor4232http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts21:21
BreakXXOkay got another question21:56
BreakXXI have downlaoded Xubuntu 8.04 twice21:56
BreakXXChecked the md5sum21:56
BreakXXBurned very slowly21:56
BreakXXAnd it still fails the disk integrity check21:57
BreakXXWhat the hell o.021:57
Odd-rationaleBreakXX: could be your burner...21:58
BreakXXI suppose so, Going to open up my case and put an old IDE burner in.21:59
cheticHow come I can only choose 640x480 or 800x600 resolutions? How do I add more?22:43
zoredacheI would guess that it means your display adapter wasn't properly detected.  Depending on your hardware you may need to insall something, or it may be as simple as reconfiguring the x11 server22:45
zoredacheyou might need to run this command in a terminal: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg22:46
cheticok trying it22:49
cheticzoredache, that seemed to have nothing to do with X11...22:52
cheticIt just asked lots of questions about my keyboard22:53
cheticand I still only have the same two choices of resolutions22:53
zoredache!xconfig22:57
ubottuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes22:57
zoredache!fixres22:57
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto22:57
zoredacheyou may need the -phigh22:57
robinOOlohello. why almost all apps on "Add/Remove" are marked as it can't be installed on my laptop? Is it because I'm using x64?23:01
hvgotcodeshey how do i tell what res my screen is at?23:03
robinOOlohvgotcodes: Settings -> Setting Manager -> Display23:05
hvgotcodesrobin001o: thanx23:06
robinOOlono problem23:07
robinOOlo:)23:07
hvgotcodesi have  a fresh xubuntu install (encrypted lvm, yeah!)  -- when the machine is in hibernate, is it supposed to be turned back on by hitting the power button?23:07
robinOOlohvgotcodes: usually yes, is it a notebook?23:08
hvgotcodesrobin001o:  yes23:09
hvgotcodessorry working 2 channels here so reaction time is slow23:09
robinOOlohahah me too :)23:10
robinOOlobut yes hvgotcodes, it should back hitting the power button23:10
robinOOlomy laptop works that way23:10
hvgotcodesrobin001o: from hibernate mode, it looks like it is doing a full boot.  but when the xubuntu splash goes away it just pops up in the state I left it. does that sound right?23:12
robinOOlodo you see all the screen bootting up the kernel and stuff?23:12
Odd-rationalehvgotcodes: yes that is right :)23:12
hvgotcodesrobin001o yes23:13
Odd-rationalerobinOOlo: what do you mean by marked as can't be installed?23:13
hvgotcodesOdd-rationale: sweet - new latitude e6400 suspend and hibernate work out of the box23:13
Odd-rationalehvgotcodes: cool.23:13
* Odd-rationale in envious....23:13
robinOOloOdd-rationale: yep, I can't mark to install :(23:13
zoredacheof course suspending is probably not a good idea if you are really concerned about security23:14
Odd-rationalerobinOOlo: hmm. any error messages? have you updated your repos? sudo apt-get update23:14
hvgotcodesdinner be back in a few23:14
robinOOlohvgotcodes: well, it doesn't sound right if its booting all again23:14
Odd-rationalehvgotcodes: ok bye!23:14
zoredachethe key for the lvm will still be in ram... People have been able to extract the keep by freezing the ram23:14
robinOOloOdd-rationale: not error, i just can't mark it and it has a message "your system or hardware isn't compatible blablabla"23:15
robinOOloi thought that only a few packages were not working on x6423:15
robinOOloit's almost all23:15
Odd-rationalerobinOOlo: how about in synaptics? the same?23:15
robinOOloOdd-rationale: not sure, let me try now23:16
robinOOlooops, installing java binaries23:17
Odd-rationalerobinOOlo: maybe find one that you cant install on add/remove and try to install it with synaptic23:18
robinOOloI'll try Compiz23:18
robinOOlo:(23:18
hvgotcodesrobin001o: yeah it seems wierd23:18
zoredachedid you manually edit your sources.list or something?23:18
robinOOlozoredache: not me23:18
robinOOloits a fresh install here23:19
robinOOloI was using Linux Mint and Zenwalk for a time23:19
Odd-rationalezenwalk looked cool. i still have yet to try it...23:19
robinOOloit is very cool23:20
robinOOlobut its too confusing if you're not used to linux yet23:20
Odd-rationalei'm too lazy and content with my system to look for a change... :P23:20
robinOOloand i had some problems with the drivers because i was trying on my note23:21
robinOOloomg23:23
robinOOloi got owned23:23
Odd-rationale:?23:24
robinOOlotried to run compiz23:24
robinOOloafter installed it23:24
robinOOlonow my window navigator has been killed23:24
robinOOloand i got a message error23:24
robinOOlomaybe i tried to run it with compositor enabled?23:25
Odd-rationalerobinOOlo: but you can install with synaptics?23:26
robinOOlowell, I installed it23:26
robinOOloit was enabled]23:26
robinOOloand was very simple23:26
robinOOlogod23:31
robinOOloneed to reboot23:31
Odd-rationaleok23:32
diggletback23:41
diggletgod i was owned by the compiz23:41
diggletalready uninstalled23:41
diggletit23:41
digglet=(23:41
Izemanhallo...23:51
Odd-rationale!hi | Izeman23:51
ubottuIzeman: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!23:51
Izemani've got a prob with xubuntu...23:51
Izemani can't connect to any network.23:52
Genelykhi23:52
zoredachehow are you trying to connect?23:52
Odd-rationaleIzeman: can you see any networks?23:52
Izemanin the network settings there is no network adapter23:52
Izemani can see some wlan23:52
Izemanbut i want connect my xubuntu to my router.23:53
Izemanthe ethernet cable is installed...23:54
Odd-rationaleIzeman: if you do "iwconfig" in a terminal... what entries do you see? lo, eth0, wlan0, etc?23:54
Izemanbut no ping is going out...23:54
Odd-rationaleIzeman: wait. are you trying to do wireless? or wired?23:54
Izemaneth0, ng, lo, wlan0 and wmaster023:55
Izemanwired.23:55
hvgotcodeshey how do i tell which graphics driver i am using?23:55
Odd-rationaleIzeman: ok. try the folloing commands...23:55
Odd-rationalesudo ifconfig eth0 down23:56
Ben_Cshello23:56
Odd-rationalesudo dhclient -r eth023:56
Odd-rationalesudo ifconfig eth0 up23:56
Odd-rationalesudo dhclient eth023:56
Odd-rationaleping -c 3 www.google.com23:56
Odd-rationalehvgotcodes: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log23:57
Izemanbut i need static ips...23:57
Odd-rationaleIzeman: oh static ip...23:57
hvgotcodesOdd-rationale: for intel card which driver will give best performance?23:57
Izemansorry...23:57
Izemanforgotten to tell...23:57
Odd-rationale!find intel23:58
ubottuFound: intel2gas, rng-tools, xserver-xorg-video-intel, xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg23:58
Odd-rationalexserver-xorg-video-intel <-- this one, hvgotcodes23:58
Odd-rationaleIzeman: oook then...23:58
Izemansorry...my fault.23:58
hvgotcodesOdd-rationale: is that open source?23:58
Odd-rationaleIzeman: sudo ifconfig eth0 down23:58
Izemandone.23:58
Odd-rationaleIzeman: sudo dhclient -r eth023:59
Odd-rationaleIzeman: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 up23:59
Odd-rationaleIzeman: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.123:59
Odd-rationaleIzeman: sudo dhclient eth023:59

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