[00:48] jml, launchpad just logged me out again [00:48] poolie: ! [00:48] kiko: ^^ [00:49] poolie: edge, right? [00:49] yes [00:49] i had to log in at about 9:15 and then again now [00:49] poolie: so I'm definitely not getting this problem. how frustrating. [00:50] poolie: I know very little about our session handling. [00:58] good night [01:00] win 18 [01:00] Damn. [01:00] * RAOF wins! [01:38] wow [01:38] now i'm logged out again [01:38] poolie: Are you quite sure it's not your browser? [01:38] I've not heard others complain. [01:38] And lots of people normally do. [01:39] it may be [01:39] i'm using intrepid's firefox, without anything particularly strange in the way of plugins [01:39] no privacy managers or anything [01:39] You haven't told it to only allow cookies for the session? [01:40] nup [01:40] I have most sites set that way, also in Intrepid's Firefox, but not LP. And LP works fine except for when they attack the DB. [01:40] and anyhow, this is happening even inside one single session [01:40] if launchpad sessions last longer than the halflife of a firefox process something is badly wrong :) [01:41] Huh? [01:41] i mean i normally stay logged in to launchpad for weeks at a time, and firefox normally crashes more than once per week [01:42] Right, so I don't see how your previous statement makes sense. [01:42] Do you mean the inverse of it? [01:42] heh [01:42] yes, i do [01:42] i meant less long [01:42] Right, that makes more sense. [01:47] hm [01:47] oh well, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/44913 in case anyone cares to answer it [01:48] Watch it carefully; they have a habit of expiring a couple of times before somebody gets to them. [01:49] heh [01:50] i think the expiry thing is not quite right yet [01:50] ouch [01:50] * jml gets to actual questions fairly quickly. [01:50] import requests are something else :P [01:50] It seems ridiculous that questions should expire without a response from the people who should be answering them. [01:50] i actually answered all the bzr questions yesterday [01:50] it seems odd it's automatic [01:50] i wouldn't mind a button that says 'i give up' [01:50] Or maybe Launchpad Answers isn't meant to be abused like an RT instance. [01:51] wgrant: lots of ridiculous things happen when you have too much to do :) [01:52] i currently have a week-to-opening paper diary [01:52] with to do things on the right page [01:53] and i think it works pretty well that they expire after a week unless i specifically copy them across [01:53] jml, sessions getting cleaned? somebody complained about that yesterday... === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [01:53] bbiab [01:53] kiko-afk: poolie, in fact :) [01:53] kiko, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/44913 [01:53] but get out of here [01:53] ok ok ok [01:53] * kiko-afk is late [01:54] wgrant, so while i think questions are RT are kind of separate things [01:54] at least it's better than mixing the two of them in with bugs [01:55] poolie: Definitely. [01:55] But I think Malone makes a better RT than Answers. [01:55] s/are/and [07:04] <__lucio__> jml: mwhudson: hi. ive been told you guys could maybe help me. ive been trying to commit a 10 line change into my bzr repo in launchapd (bound branch) and its taking forever. it was working fine, but now ive been waiting for more than 1800 secs (i have de dhss log) [07:06] __lucio__: can you pastebin the HPSS log? [07:06] (http://paste.ubuntu.com is a good pastebin) [07:06] <__lucio__> jml: sure [07:07] __lucio__: I don't have any access to the production server, so the amount of diagnosis I can do is limited. [07:07] but let's see what we can find :) [07:07] <__lucio__> jml: http://paste.ubuntu.com/46074/ [07:08] spiv: you should take a look at that ^^ [07:11] ah, we love you autopack [07:11] Ugh, autopack. [07:11] __lucio__: wait it out, it's an infrequent automatic repo maintenance thing :( [07:12] We're working on making that suck less. [07:14] <__lucio__> spiv: what are the chances that i get something like that tomorrow or on saturday? [07:15] <__lucio__> we have a big deadline (pyweek ends on saturday) and if this happens we will be in trouble :) [07:15] __lucio__: you might want to use a full branch, rather than a bound branch. [07:15] <__lucio__> it wont happend if i do that? ok. [07:16] __lucio__: it'll only happen when you push [07:16] __lucio__: and then only sometimes [07:16] <__lucio__> but thats how we share stuff betwen coders... [07:16] ahh, I see. [07:16] __lucio__: do you have to share every single commit? [07:16] spiv: how often is autopack triggered? [07:16] <__lucio__> not everyone [07:17] * jml watches a stretch hummer drive by [07:17] <__lucio__> but most of them. things get fast on the last hours of the compo [07:17] *nod* [07:18] jml: every ten pack files, but the number of pack files that will be autopacked varies considerably (based on the total number). [07:18] <__lucio__> it finished! [07:18] __lucio__: \o/ [07:18] So it frequently does little autopacks, occasionally does large autopacks, and very infrequently does huge ones. [07:19] <__lucio__> 2283 secs :) [07:19] spiv: well, that was ~20mb of data transferred. [07:19] jml: it's based on pack file count, not bytes, so that doesn't really tell us alot. [07:20] The key line of .bzr.log is: [07:20] 31.880 Auto-packing repository , which has 14 pack files, containing 106 revisions into 7 packs. [07:20] spiv: I guess what I meant was, was that one of the huge ones? [07:21] which is actually a secret code for "what should __lucio__ do given that commit speed matters?" :) [07:25] That was one of the big ones I think. [07:25] <__lucio__> well, i have to get to bed, its really late here. thank you guys a lot. [07:25] There's now one 9.6MB pack file, and 6 that are all <= 16kB. [07:26] So __lucio__ should be fine until about commit 200. [07:27] <__lucio__> spiv: well be watching the commit number in terror :) [07:27] __lucio__: np. sleep well :) [09:36] May I ask that someone locally upgrades ~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk ? [09:36] on the DC, that is [09:41] if no one answers here please ask a question against launchpad-bazaar [09:42] will do [09:42] thanks [09:48] Why does Malone doubt its ability to add structural subscriptions for me? [09:48] "You have been successfully subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in ubuntu." [09:48] It seems surprised. [10:26] wgrant, :) [12:08] guys. bzr 1.8 with the 'lp' protocol refuses to use the http_proxy variable [12:11] is this a known problem? [12:15] guess nobody is awake :) [12:15] Does bzr 1.8 exist? [12:16] If you've used bzr launchpad-login, the lp protocol won't use HTTP. [12:16] ANd this is likely a #bzr question. [12:19] i didnt know about #bzr [12:19] will join [12:19] thank you === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde === bigjools is now known as bigjools-lunch === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [13:39] mrevell: hi, can I query you for a platform problem (fiordland.canonical.com)? thanks [13:39] Hi Zic. I can help you find the right person to talk to about it. What's the problem? mthaddon, this might be of interest to you. [13:40] mrevell: one more time (I don't know if you remember me with my email alias problem :)), I've got somes problem with my @ubuntu.com alias [13:41] since yesterday, I don't receive any mails from my zic@ubuntu.com alias [13:41] Zic: Ah, yes, I do remember. What's the problem this time? [13:41] if you can verify that is not a DNS propagation problem, I will be happy :) [13:41] (I think it's my fault, this time ;-() [13:42] I don't have any error msg from fiordland.canonical.com… [13:43] Zic: I'm not sure why it would be a DNS propagation problem. It appears that zic@ubuntu.com is your primary email address in your LP account. Your destination address should usually be your primary email address. [13:44] mrevell: I have modify somes configuration in my DNS system yesterday [13:44] ah I see [13:44] I always receive mail from my others alias (not bind with Ubuntu) [13:44] but not for @ubuntu.com [13:45] Maybe it's my fault (bad configuration), maybe DNS propagation which is quite long sometime [13:45] is there a way for sysadmin to know where the error is located ? [13:45] I think the best thing is to file an support request at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad and then the sysadmins will look at it. I can't really see any more detail than you can, whereas they can investigate if there's a problem at our end. [13:47] mrevell: ok, thanks for your help, I will wait a little and continue to investigate [13:48] Zic: I hope you resolve the problem soon! [13:48] (because I very think it should be a DNS problem because I don't receive any email error from fiordland as last time with my other problem which was solved with your help :)) [13:50] last time, I received errors by mail to investigate, but not this time… [13:50] mrevell: thanks [14:02] mrevell: do you think mthaddon can give me the result of what fiordland.canonical.com have when resolv mail.marsaud.org to IP? or I should ever open an answer on answers Launchpad system? [14:02] Zic: It's best to open a ticket in Launchpad Answers, tbh. [14:02] Zic, I couldn't, but you might be able to get help from an SA in #canonical-sysadmin [14:03] or what he said :) [14:07] "* #canonical-sysadmin :You can't join that many channels" evil freenode :> [14:08] sorry, I have to quit #launchpad to /join, have a good day, and thanks for your help === salgado-afk is now known as salgado === bigjools-lunch is now known as bigjools === _DasIch is now known as DasIch [14:55] how do you send a generated key to keyserver.ubuntu.com? [14:56] gpg key i mean [14:58] gpg --send-keys --keyserver k.u.c ? [14:59] Hobbsee, it says invalid key [14:59] Hobbsee, i did gpg --fingerprint [14:59] received a key with numbers and letters [15:00] then did gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com [15:00] it says invalid and skipped [15:00] no, don't send the fingerprint. [15:00] send the key iD> [15:01] it's 8 digits, usually [15:01] pub 1024D/7D2BCE85 2006-08-16 [15:01] uid Sarah Hobbs (Nickname: Hobbsee) [15:01] would make it the 7D2BCE85 [15:01] oh [15:02] done [15:02] now paste the finger print in the launchpad account right/ [15:03] i think so. [15:03] it's been a while since i've done it [15:04] btw after format the key would be lost on the computer how do i restor it [15:04] restore* [15:04] you don't. [15:04] you do a backup of ~/.gnupg before you format. [15:04] and, there is: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey [15:05] and you keep it securely, and you don't give it out to anyone, or put it on any untrusted machines. [15:05] really? i never thought of saving .gnupg. i always export and import everything [15:06] intellectronica: you export your private key, etc, as well? [15:06] yeah [15:06] oh yeah, seahorse probably has an export thing, too... [15:07] though backing up .gnupg sounds like an easier solution [15:07] much :) [15:31] hmm.. i want to sign Code of Conduct i did gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt it generated a file called UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc if i try to open it, it askes to choose a file name for the decrypted data. then error appears The file „UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc was not able to decode". No data. [15:33] what should i go [15:33] do* [15:34] compengi: i guess it tries to open it with some application. try opening it with "Text Editor" [15:36] oh i see.. [15:40] thank you intellectronica and Hobbsee :) [15:40] compengi: np === warp10_ is now known as warp10 === salgado is now known as salgado-brb [16:15] btw if i generated another key accidentally is there a way to remove it? [16:16] compengi: remove from the keyservers or from your gnupg keystore? [16:17] geser, from the gnupg keystore [16:18] compengi: just to be sure: you didn't upload it to the keyservers? [16:18] geser, yeah, i didn't. i just generated another when i had one. [16:19] compengi: then gpg --delete-secret-and-public-key 0xkeyid [16:19] aha [16:21] geser, thanks a lot :) === salgado-brb is now known as salgado [17:51] I'm starting to see two e-mails regarding one bug comment [17:52] The Message-Id in both are different and the comment is only showing up on time in the html view of the bug report [17:53] bdmurray: the web ui hides identical comments [17:54] BjornT: Leann is seeing the same thing [17:54] bdmurray: well, everyone that gets notified about that bug should see it. does this happen often? [17:54] I've noticed it 2x today [17:55] bdmurray: can you give an example of a bug number, and which comment you saw twice? [17:55] bug 263542 and comment 6 [17:55] Launchpad bug 263542 in linux "ASUS X55SV Notebook: Muting internal speaker when headphone is plugged in." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263542 [17:57] bdmurray: do you have another one as well? [17:59] BjornT: not right at the moment - let me search some [18:01] BjornT: bug 268095 perhaps [18:01] Launchpad bug 268095 in network-manager "MASTER Network Manager should probe for GSM and CDMA command sets. It doesnt detect 3g modems with serial capability only in hal" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268095 [18:01] bdmurray: nm. i've checked in the db, and comment 7 is there, but not displayed in the ui, meaning that it's identical to comment 6 [18:02] BjornT: comment 2 in the last bug I mentioned [18:02] Leann added the comment to 263542 and said she didn't use py-lp-b or greasemonkey ... [18:03] bdmurray: right. and as you can see, comment 3 isn't displayed,so that one is identical to 2 [18:04] BjornT: okay, but it seems something is wrong with either comments getting added or e-mail being sent twice [18:04] bdmurray: it's the comment that is added twice. let's see if i can find out why... [18:07] bdmurray: i think i'll have to defer debuggin this until monday, i don't have access to today's log files [18:11] BjornT: okay, should I submit a bug [18:12] bdmurray: not necessarily needed, but that would probably help me remember doing this :) [18:12] BjornT: okay, I'll submit and assign to you? [18:13] bdmurray: sure [18:19] Hi [18:19] How can I remove a vcs-import? [18:19] there isn't a delete link === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [18:29] nobody know? [18:29] greetings. is there a URL to see the tags on a bzr branch? [18:30] from launchpad, that is. [18:55] vagrantc, hmmm, that's a really good question. brudo you know? [18:56] beuno, I meant :) [18:56] DnaX, just tell me the link and I'll delete it for you, I own vcs-imports [18:56] kiko-afk: if there isn't, should i just go ahead and file a bug report? [18:57] vagrantc, so yes, though it depends on what exactly you want. beuno can you cover for me? [18:57] it also doesn't seem to accept negative revision numbers ... === kiko-afk is now known as kiko-phone [18:57] I'm about to go on the phone! [18:57] vagrantc, oh, it does too [18:59] i.e. i'd like URLs to view the contents of a particular file at the -1 revision ... [18:59] ah, I see [19:00] but the URLs i've seen so far seem to associate with a particular commit id [19:00] such as: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/annotate/869?file_id=release.conf-20071129052109-hb354knxni2quxsf-1 [19:00] brudo? [19:00] vagrantc, hi [19:00] * vagrantc waves [19:01] beuno, I suck at this irc thing [19:01] vagrantc, we don't have a way of showing tags right now [19:01] but there's a bug open for it [19:01] beuno: should i file a bug? [19:01] and plans to address it [19:01] oh, ok. [19:01] kiko-phone, maybe you just have to limit yourself to do 3 or 4 things at a time [19:01] kiko-phone: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/ircp-tray/0.7.2 [19:01] vagrantc, bug #246739 [19:01] beuno: what about getting the contents of the most recent arbitrary file ? [19:01] Launchpad bug 246739 in loggerhead "tags are not available" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246739 [19:02] I've asked for it in Answers [19:02] vagrantc, that's in even a better state. There a bugs opened, and a branch to fix it! [19:02] I've been working on that this week [19:02] excellent :) [19:02] should be able to wrap up the details the next few days [19:03] beuno: bug number on that? [19:03] vagrantc, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/260363 and https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/269365 [19:03] Launchpad bug 260363 in loggerhead "unable to generate a link showing a file changes based on its path" [Medium,Confirmed] [19:04] DnaX, done [19:04] DnaX, where? I want my karma :) === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [19:04] XD [19:04] beuno: thanks. i've subscribed to both bugs. [19:05] vagrantc, np. Feel free to ping me if there's anything else I can help with [19:05] kiko-phone: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/44995 [19:05] your karma :P [19:05] phew [19:05] now, I'm going back to that lunch thing I was doing [19:05] that was close! [19:06] beuno, ah, lunch! what a fantastic idea. it's only 15:00 here after all.. [19:06] kiko-phone, yeah. You still have plenty of time before dinner [19:06] unfortunately [19:06] :) [19:06] I have a 1 hour call starting now [19:06] ah [19:06] I'm glad it's not with me! [19:07] * beuno saves some soup for kiko-phone [19:07] kiko-phone: thank you ;) [19:07] somebody get me some yakisoba [19:07] thanks DnaX === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [19:16] thanks again. === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [20:14] wats triaged mean? [20:15] bigBear, that somebody in the project team acknowledges the bug report is complete [20:15] hmm i hope the nv problem gets fixed =/ [20:32] is there anyway to use the REST interfact to download translations? [20:33] hexmode, not at the moment, no [20:33] (I'm looking at you, leonardr...) ;) [20:33] I think it's too resource intensive [20:33] beuno: ok, thought'd I'd ask [20:33] so it's done with a delay [20:33] right... I don't get that [20:33] hexmode: no, the translation team would have to work on publishing that information, and they haven't made it a priority [20:33] I mean, I would have figured it was just throw some strings together... [20:34] hexmode, well, when the DB hits a few dozen gb, nothing really is that simple :) [20:34] beuno: I get that.... nothing is as easy as I want it to be ;) [20:34] is there anyone on the translation team I can hassle? I'm not sure I really need this, but it would be useful. [20:35] hexmode, I think they're all gone for the weekend, but opening a bug seems like a good way to start [20:35] kk [21:07] Hi, I have an open "launchpad itself question" asking if an admin can create a super-project and do a rename of an existing one for me. There hasn't been any activity in it yet, and as I'd like to get it done and dusted, is there anyone anywhere I can give a gentle nudge, to help me? [21:08] splodge, do you have a link handy? [21:08] yep, sure. hold on a sec. [21:08] https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/44893 [21:09] splodge, let's see of we have someone like Rinchen or kiko-phone around to do it [21:09] if not, someone will get to it soon-ish [21:09] splodge, I can handle it [21:10] That would be brilliant. Thanks :) === jelmer is now known as jelmer_ [21:21] ah I see Kiko has it. sorry for the delay there beuno [21:22] Rinchen, 2 minute turn-around is actually pretty good service :) [21:26] I try to monitor #launchpad a lot but often I find myself deep in concentration and it takes a ping to bring me out of it and glance at the channel again. We'll be making a change (on the 22nd in fact) that will allow us to have someone on this channel expressly to help users [21:26] Rinchen, about that, does that mean any lp-dev can rename things [21:27] or still just you or kiko? [21:27] beuno, no. You still have to be an admin for that [21:27] so that means, me, kiko, stub, or a LOSA [21:27] but there are enough of us that it shouldn't be an issue [21:27] k, good. We should have a "ping X person for X task" list [21:27] beuno, we do. :-) it's in the process doc I emailed about yesterday [21:28] although [21:28] not specifically in that format [21:28] ah, that may of thrown me off [21:28] Could anyone please tell me what nuked the translations of https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/gobby/0.4/+pots/gobby? I suppose it was one of my "sync with upstream" uploads, but I did not upload empty translations and the po files did have content. [21:29] Hey, there's a ~name that's in use, but the registrar has not done anything on launchpad. [21:29] Can I ursurp the name? === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [21:30] lfaraone|ffm, sometimes you can. You may want to open a questions for that, so it can be looked into in detail [21:30] pkern, that sounds like something the translations people look into. Can you file a questions for that as well? [21:30] I think they're all enjoying their weekend already [21:31] pkern, although I do see it has translations in intrepid: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/gobby/+pots/gobby [21:31] may not be what you wanted though [21:32] Any idea how I can change my ubuntu-wiki authentication? [21:34] beuno: (I mean my wiki username, it doesn't update after I change my lp name) [21:35] beuno: "See the same template in: Gobby 0.3. Gobby 0.4. Ubuntu Hardy." Hm, and I thought that they are sharing the data so that intrepid's is also nuked. Ok. [21:35] beuno: What's the relevant project? [21:35] lfaraone|ffm, I don't really know [21:36] pkern, https://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta [21:38] beuno: done, thanks === jelmer_ is now known as jelmer [21:59] hello, i need some aid on removing member from a proyect [22:04] ok, if i say form a 'project' may be... somebody knows how to doing that? [22:04] emezeta, sure, are you the owner of the project? [22:04] yes! of course [22:05] well, go the members list [22:05] and deactivate it [22:05] *him [22:05] it is done [22:05] what's the problem? [22:05] but now he is deactivates, and reaminds like a former member... [22:06] is this ok? [22:06] yeap [22:06] beuno, tks u! === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === fta_ is now known as fta === lionel_ is now known as lionel [23:48] hey - does anyone know how to retarget a blueprint to a different series?