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| pitti | seb128: BTW, that compiz startup bug | 08:43 |
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| pitti | seb128: ... isn't one, I just haven't restarted my session in ages \o/ | 08:43 |
| pitti | it works now | 08:43 |
| seb128 | pitti: good ;-) | 08:43 |
| pitti | (just a very small bday present, I know...) | 08:43 |
| gicmo | seb128: yo | 09:04 |
| seb128 | gicmo: hey hey | 09:04 |
| gicmo | seb128: just got the crasher again (trash) myself | 09:04 |
| seb128 | it's a popular one ;-) | 09:05 |
| seb128 | the number of dup was 93 when I looked yesterday | 09:05 |
| gicmo | seb128: I am thinking about adding a piece of code that might fix it | 09:05 |
| gicmo | seb128: I just wish I could reproduce it | 09:05 |
| seb128 | right | 09:06 |
| seb128 | gicmo: what piece of code and where? | 09:06 |
| gicmo | seb128: just add g_vfs_get_default () on the main thread | 09:07 |
| seb128 | that would fix it? I though the issue was dbus used in threads | 09:07 |
| gicmo | calling that func will cause gio/gvfs to be initialized | 09:07 |
| gicmo | seb128: well, the issue is that we are initilizing gvfs from the second thread | 09:07 |
| gicmo | seb128: look at the stack traces, they all crash with gvfs_daemo_init () or g_vfs_get_default () in the second thread | 09:08 |
| gicmo | what was the lp bug? | 09:09 |
| gicmo | sorry for not remembering that | 09:09 |
| seb128 | bug #252174 | 09:09 |
| seb128 | no problem ;-) | 09:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 252174 in gvfs "gvfsd-trash crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/252174 | 09:09 |
| gicmo | This bug has 95 duplicates | 09:11 |
| gicmo | W T F | 09:11 |
| gicmo | seb128: since the crash itself is always in the mainloop | 09:13 |
| seb128 | gicmo: that's only ubuntu unstable, I say you are lucky gnome-session 2.23 doesn't enable bug-buddy ;-) | 09:13 |
| gicmo | seb128: I am wondering if calling the dbus_integrate_with_main function causes the GSource to get invalid or something | 09:13 |
| seb128 | hum, dunno | 09:14 |
| seb128 | brb, I just need to restart my session | 09:14 |
| gicmo | seb128: sooo | 09:18 |
| seb128 | re | 09:18 |
| gicmo | re | 09:19 |
| seb128 | gicmo: I've no enough clue about that to tell you if that fixes the issue | 09:19 |
| gicmo | I am sorry if am distracting you | 09:19 |
| seb128 | oh that doesn't distract me, I've just no good reply ;-) | 09:19 |
| seb128 | I can push patches and wait for user feedback or see if bug reports stop though | 09:20 |
| seb128 | I'm just not enough of a hacker to have a clue about this issue | 09:21 |
| gicmo | I am not sure the _g_dbus_connection_integrate_with_main () is prepared to handle more then one main integration | 09:21 |
| seb128 | did you try to mail alex? maybe he has some clue about that too and could confirm your idea? | 09:24 |
| gicmo | seb128: not yet | 09:26 |
| gicmo | seb128: I am reading the glib dbus bindings right now to confirm my idea whats going on | 09:26 |
| gicmo | seb128: I think I have my finger at the right point now | 09:26 |
| pochu | good morning! | 09:57 |
| seb128 | hello pochu | 09:58 |
| pochu | hi seb128. I did a few basic tests with nemiver 0.6.2 | 10:00 |
| pochu | I think if crevette could test it too, we could sync it | 10:00 |
| seb128 | alright | 10:01 |
| crevette | pochu: do yo have a package ? | 10:26 |
| pochu | crevette: yes, let me upload it somewhere | 10:28 |
| crevette | pochu: I'm in contact with the developers, and there shouldn't have a lot of changes | 10:29 |
| crevette | so it should work :) | 10:29 |
| pochu | crevette: http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/ | 10:39 |
| crevette | tx | 10:40 |
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| seb128 | mvo_: thanks for sending the gnome-keyboard-properties patch upstream | 11:35 |
| seb128 | mvo_: I've assigned bug #268636 to you since it's in your changes | 11:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 268636 in gnome-control-center "gnome-keyboard-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268636 | 11:35 |
| crevette | pochu: does setting a breakpoint works for you ? | 11:46 |
| crevette | nemiver doesn't open the source code window | 11:47 |
| mvo_ | seb128: thanks, looking | 12:29 |
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| mvo_ | seb128: otherwise it looks good bugwise afaics | 12:31 |
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| pochu | crevette: I haven't tried it yet. I can have a look later if you want | 12:38 |
| pitti | seb128: any regression reports about the deskbar SRU? (bug 255998) | 12:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 255998 in deskbar-applet "2.22.3.1 stable update" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255998 | 12:41 |
| pitti | seb128: at some point we should move that to -updates, but I'd like to see at least one confirmation "yes it works" | 12:41 |
| seb128 | pitti: oh, it's still not moved? no, no regression bug | 12:46 |
| pitti | no feedback on the bug | 12:47 |
| seb128 | pitti: the change is one commit to adapt for a website change | 12:47 |
| seb128 | pitti: and is intrepid | 12:48 |
| seb128 | and we got no bug since | 12:48 |
| seb128 | I don't use this website but deskbar-applet was still working correctly when I tried | 12:48 |
| pitti | ok, thanks | 12:49 |
| pitti | good 'nuff | 12:49 |
| seb128 | cool, thank you | 12:49 |
| crevette | I'll try to package latest bluez-gnome for blue 3.x this week end | 12:51 |
| pochu | seb128: I've connected an ipod in Intrepid. Nautilus shows it's mounted, but it doesn't open in rhythmbox, and if I double-click it in Nautilus it doesn't open. is this a known issue? | 12:52 |
| pochu | the ipod plugin is enabled, and it used to work | 12:54 |
| seb128 | pochu: no, it works fine for me, it display the "what do you want to do" action which default to starting rhythmbox | 12:55 |
| seb128 | pochu: what action is configured in nautilus? | 12:55 |
| pochu | Media>Music Player>Ask what to do | 12:55 |
| pochu | perhaps it's my profile, I can try with a new user | 12:55 |
| seb128 | right | 12:56 |
| pochu | I have this in .xsession-errors: | 12:56 |
| pochu | x-session-manager[2806]: DEBUG(+): GsmXSMPClient: Client '0x9d30d60 [nautilus 1085cb869e1fb01e122114555464300900000028060051]' received SaveYourselfDone(success = True) | 12:56 |
| pochu | x-session-manager[2806]: DEBUG(+): GsmXsmpServer: sms_error_handler (0x9d5a210, FALSE, 3, 9, 32771, 0) | 12:56 |
| pochu | x-session-manager[2806]: DEBUG(+): GsmXsmpServer: ice_io_error_handler (0x9d595d8) | 12:56 |
| pochu | not sure if that's related to the ipod or it's a different issue | 12:56 |
| seb128 | different one | 12:56 |
| pochu | hey pedro_! | 12:56 |
| pochu | seb128: ok, I'm going to try with a new user | 12:57 |
| pochu | thanks | 12:57 |
| pedro_ | morning pochu! | 12:57 |
| seb128 | hello pedro_ | 12:57 |
| pedro_ | salut seb128 | 12:57 |
| lool | pochu: I can't mount USB keys in nautilus anymore | 12:58 |
| lool | pochu: I think you suffer from the same symptoms | 12:59 |
| seb128 | mvo_: hum, bug #268636 no | 13:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 268636 in gnome-control-center "gnome-keyboard-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268636 | 13:00 |
| seb128 | mvo_: the duplicate is using 1:2.23.90-0ubuntu8 | 13:00 |
| pochu | lool: lool right, just tried an usb stick and the same happens | 13:00 |
| pochu | i.e. it shows in Places, but if I try to open it nothing happens | 13:01 |
| pochu | even if I right-click and "open in new window", nothing | 13:01 |
| seb128 | anything in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/message about that | 13:02 |
| lool | * Bug fixes: 546971 - rhythmbox crashed when ejecting an ipod device | 13:05 |
| lool | in gvfs 0.99.7 | 13:05 |
| pochu | seb128: I lost the connection | 13:08 |
| pochu | http://pastebin.com/f5692120d | 13:08 |
| pochu | that's /var/log/messages | 13:08 |
| seb128 | lool: what about it? | 13:08 |
| lool | Just a guess | 13:08 |
| seb128 | pochu: nothing special there | 13:08 |
| lool | I had a gvfs update to 0.99.7.1 on the 9th, and now things are borken | 13:09 |
| seb128 | lool: that was a ref counting issue, I doubt it breaks mounting | 13:09 |
| pochu | and syslog: http://pastebin.com/f570b3286 | 13:09 |
| lool | I didn't downgrade, but it's first thing I'd suspect | 13:09 |
| pochu | (the output of "grep -A 10 -B 10 -i usb /var/log/syslog") | 13:09 |
| seb128 | lool: and we had the patch in the previous version | 13:09 |
| lool | ok | 13:09 |
| pochu | could it be a kernel issue? | 13:18 |
| pochu | I can reboot into the new and shiny -3 ;) | 13:19 |
| seb128 | hey mvo_ | 13:21 |
| seb128 | mvo_: did you read what I wrote before? | 13:21 |
| mvo_ | seb128: no? | 13:26 |
| mvo_ | seb128: sorry, dropped offline, the line is bad today | 13:26 |
| seb128 | mvo_: bug #268636, the duplicate uses 1:2.23.90-0ubuntu8, so you closed it wrongly | 13:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 268636 in gnome-control-center "gnome-keyboard-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268636 | 13:26 |
| seb128 | mvo_: and bug #269328 for you to sponsor, typo in the string you added | 13:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269328 in gnome-control-center "Spelling mistake in Network Proxy preferences" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269328 | 13:27 |
| mvo_ | thanks seb128, checking | 13:27 |
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| andreasn | seb128: regarding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidMenusReview, I fixed the xsane icon thing on my own system, but how do I forward these changes to you? diff the desktop file and send a patch? | 14:37 |
| andreasn | seb128: I more or less just changed one line of text | 14:38 |
| seb128 | andreasn: what format is used for the icon? diff or attach the new icon to launchpad | 14:38 |
| seb128 | andreasn: and subscribe the ubuntu-main-sponsors team too | 14:38 |
| andreasn | seb128: I just changed icon=xsane to icon=scanner | 14:38 |
| seb128 | andreasn: ah, easy enough, so yes just the diff on a bug would be nice ;-) | 14:39 |
| andreasn | all right, will do | 14:39 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 14:39 |
| mvo | seb128: just to clarify, gnome-session now uses gnome-wm again and that uses /desktop/gnome/applicatons/window_manager/default again? | 14:45 |
| seb128 | mvo: yes | 14:46 |
| mvo | thanks | 14:46 |
| * mvo updates the g-c-c patch | 14:46 | |
| seb128 | mvo: what is wrong in the patch? | 14:50 |
| seb128 | mvo: the code uses /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager, not sure if we should rather change this one and update gnome-wm to use it too | 14:51 |
| seb128 | vuntz: ^ | 14:51 |
| vuntz | yes, use the upstream key if possible :-) | 14:56 |
| mvo_ | seb128: the patch currently writes this location but that does not seem to be sufficient | 14:57 |
| mvo_ | I don't mind either way | 14:57 |
| seb128 | vuntz: what is the upstream key? the | 14:58 |
| seb128 | mvo_: use the required_components one rather then | 14:59 |
| vuntz | seb128: /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager, | 14:59 |
| seb128 | ok, what I though, thanks | 14:59 |
| mvo_ | will gnome-session run what is found there? | 14:59 |
| mvo_ | or will gnome-session run gnome-wm regardless? | 15:00 |
| seb128 | mvo_: arg, tricky | 15:00 |
| seb128 | mvo_: gnome-session will run what is in /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager | 15:00 |
| seb128 | which is gnome-wm in intrepid | 15:00 |
| seb128 | if we don't do that we don't have fallback working | 15:00 |
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| seb128 | now, not sure if the capplet should change this one | 15:02 |
| mvo_ | hm, the fallback is part of the compiz startup script. or does gnome-session get confused when instead of compiz suddently metacity registers itself | 15:02 |
| seb128 | or if we should always use gnome-wm and let do it the logic | 15:02 |
| seb128 | mvo_: that should not be the case but gnome-wm handles lot of other case, openbox users for example | 15:03 |
| mvo_ | ok, cool | 15:03 |
| seb128 | "cool"? I'm still not clear what we should do ;-) | 15:04 |
| mvo_ | "cool"> that gnome-session does not get confused | 15:08 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:08 |
| mvo_ | I have a look into the gnome-session source now | 15:08 |
| mvo_ | ok, so the current patch in g-c-c writes to the wrong gconf location anyway :) | 15:10 |
| mvo_ | that explains the issues I see | 15:10 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:13 |
| mvo_ | let go with modifiying /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager in the appearance cpaplet | 15:13 |
| mvo_ | I think that way users who are looking at the documentation to see where the window manager is set will find the right answer | 15:13 |
| mvo_ | instead of having to go via gnome-wm to yet another location | 15:14 |
| mvo_ | what do you think? | 15:14 |
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| mvo | seb128: sorry, line dropped *again* | 15:23 |
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| seb128 | re mvo | 15:23 |
| mvo | seb128: I hit my router hard with a hammer now, should be better :) | 15:23 |
| mvo | <mvo_> let go with modifiying /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager in the appearance cpaplet | 15:23 |
| mvo | I think that way users who are looking at the documentation to see where the window manager is set will find the right answer | 15:23 |
| mvo | instead of having to go via gnome-wm to yet another location | 15:23 |
| mvo | <mvo_> what do you think? | 15:23 |
| seb128 | mvo: works for me | 15:23 |
| mvo | thanks! | 15:23 |
| seb128 | thank *you* for looking at that ;-) | 15:24 |
| mvo | seb128: excellent, seems to work and is commited to bzr now \o/ | 15:28 |
| seb128 | mvo: good job ;-) | 15:28 |
| mpt | tedg, reasons for the status menu to be first: * Usually used more often, by those who use it at all. * Strengthens the connection between the icon in the menu and the icons for the status items. * Switching accounts and lock/shut down/etc are more closely related than changing status and lock/shut down/etc are. | 15:41 |
| tedg | mpt: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ted/fusa-screenie-2008091209.png | 15:41 |
| tedg | mpt: Yeah, I agree. | 15:42 |
| mpt | However... | 15:42 |
| tedg | I think it also means we could go back to indenting the names and having "Switch User" above them -- which I liked better. | 15:42 |
| mpt | tedg, reasons for the list of accounts to be first: * Applicable more often (assuming the guest account is on by default). * Strengthens the connection between the name in the menu title and the names of the other accounts. * It's possible that future versions will have more complex status stuff, e.g. a field for you to enter custom status text, or to do twittering, or whatever. | 15:43 |
| tedg | We need to solve the users with the same real name problem. | 15:43 |
| mpt | (By "applicable more often" I mean "applicable to more people", since not everyone uses IM.) | 15:44 |
| tedg | I don't have numbers, but I'm guessing that more people us IM than FUS. | 15:44 |
| tedg | Especially on the cases of "Single user laptop" | 15:45 |
| mpt | hmm, likely | 15:45 |
| tedg | We should make that into a term. SUL. It's actually a big use case. | 15:47 |
| tedg | mpt: Are you in #ubuntu-devel? They're discussing jockey terms. | 15:50 |
| mpt | tedg, I'm one of "they" | 15:51 |
| tedg | mpt: Sorry, you're a different color in that window :) | 15:53 |
| mpt | tedg, report a bug :-) | 15:55 |
| tedg | Heh, perhaps, but I'm trying to cut down on Karma. ;) | 15:57 |
| glatzor | mvo__, hi | 16:02 |
| mpt | tedg, this is the ideal menu for social climbers. It's all about status and power. | 16:02 |
| tedg | mpt: I think you should propose that for the name -- social climbing menu. | 16:04 |
| andreasn | tedg: is this ready for Ibex or the one after it? might be nice to use the same icons as Pidgin if for Ibex. | 16:08 |
| andreasn | to make the graphic connection stronger | 16:09 |
| tedg | andreasn: It's for Intrepid. I don't know, I kinda want to push towards Empathy ;) | 16:10 |
| * andreasn should try to get these into the base icon set anyway | 16:10 | |
| tedg | I used the icon naming spec names, so they'll probably get themed by everyone. | 16:11 |
| tedg | So I imagine it won't match Pidgin anyway in the end. | 16:11 |
| andreasn | how sneaky of you ;) | 16:11 |
| tedg | andreasn: Yeah, you know those artists, you have to manipulate them in subtle ways :) | 16:12 |
| andreasn | you mean like "crap, we want consistency at every cost, crap, might as well change the IM client!"? :) | 16:13 |
| tedg | mpt: What's you're plan? Should I start something new, or wait for a quick turn around on some menu shuffles? | 16:29 |
| tedg | s/you're/your/ | 16:29 |
| mpt | tedg, Mark has been in a meeting for a while so I wouldn't expect a quick turnaround | 16:32 |
| tedg | mpt: 'k, I'll break other things then :) | 16:33 |
| mpt | and now it's time for me to find problems with intrepidly exiting | 16:34 |
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| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| pochu | seb128, lool: usb stick mounts fine now | 17:11 |
| andreasn | seb128: oh, I already sent a patch last year | 17:12 |
| pochu | I didn't have nautilus/gnome-panel/ubuntu-desktop installed | 17:12 |
| andreasn | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsane/+bug/129687 | 17:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 129687 in xsane "xsane menu icon looks ugly" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:12 |
| pochu | I've reinstalled them, and it works now | 17:12 |
| crevette | pochu: a I had that too yesterday | 17:17 |
| crevette | I was quite surprised | 17:17 |
| pochu | I think it's update-manager's fault | 17:21 |
| pochu | mvo__: wasn't there an update-manager bug about it removing essential packages with the partial upgrade thing? | 17:31 |
| pochu | ah, bug 219444 | 17:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 219444 in update-manager "Partial update removes existing packages without checking/installing replacements" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219444 | 17:33 |
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| mpt | vuntz, hi, what's your preferred medium for small tweaks to make to the Log Out and Shut Down dialogs? E-mail message? b.g.o bug reports? | 18:07 |
| mpt | A single omnibus bug report? | 18:07 |
| johanbr | Speaking of which, I noticed that pressing the power button now only gives me the option to log out or switch users. That seems a little illogical. | 18:11 |
| vuntz | mpt: probably best to add comments to the upstream bug about this | 18:13 |
| vuntz | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507101 | 18:13 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 507101 in general "New UI for logout/shutdown dialogs" [Minor,New] | 18:13 |
| tedg | mpt: GNOME is in hard code freeze -- so if we want something for Ubuntu, we'll probably have to distro patch it. | 18:19 |
| mpt | joy | 18:20 |
| bertoldia | pitti? Axel here. | 18:49 |
| pitti | oh, hey bertoldia! | 18:49 |
| bertoldia | hey! | 18:49 |
| bertoldia | just got your last email after having sent mine. | 18:49 |
| bertoldia | I happy to travel to Portland or to to do it over the phone. | 18:50 |
| bertoldia | Whatever is more convenient for you. | 18:51 |
| pitti | bertoldia: sorry, X just crashed (doing some debugging); did you say anything after your mail ack? | 18:52 |
| bertoldia | I'm happy to travel to Portland or to do it over the phone. | 18:53 |
| bertoldia | Whatever is more convenient for you. | 18:53 |
| pitti | bertoldia: well, meeting in person is always nice, it just sounded like a lot of effort for an hour of talking :) | 18:53 |
| bertoldia | pitti: I'm happy to do it. | 18:55 |
| bertoldia | I also have friends there to visit. | 18:55 |
| pitti | bertoldia: ok, great! see you next Thursday then | 18:56 |
| bertoldia | Pitti: Great! See you then! | 18:56 |
| bertoldia | Cheers. | 18:56 |
| pochu | johanbr: there's two buttons/dialogs now, you were probably pressing the logout/switch users one ;) | 19:04 |
| james_w | I've just restarted my session and I don't get a functioning desktop back, I get a mouse pointer and the desktop background, but no panel etc. | 19:04 |
| james_w | has anyone seen this? | 19:04 |
| johanbr | pochu: I was pressing the physical power button on my laptop. | 19:05 |
| pochu | oh | 19:05 |
| pochu | james_w: yes, install ubuntu-desktop! | 19:05 |
| vuntz | tedg: the patch is not committed upstream, so we don't care about hard code freeze. It's just a patch in a bug | 19:05 |
| james_w | cripes! thanks pochu | 19:05 |
| pochu | james_w: bug 269409 | 19:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269409 in meta-gnome2 "[intrepid] gnome doesn't start any more. (dup-of: 219444)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269409 | 19:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 219444 in update-manager "Partial update removes existing packages without checking/installing replacements" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219444 | 19:06 |
| james_w | thanks | 19:06 |
| pochu | james_w: thank pedro_ who helped me before :) | 19:06 |
| james_w | thanks pedro_ :-) | 19:06 |
| tedg | vuntz: Ah, okay. mpt, also. | 19:07 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome ;-) | 19:07 |
| * mvo goes to fix that | 19:08 | |
| * pochu hugs mvo | 19:08 | |
| mpt | vuntz, done | 19:22 |
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| geser | does libgail-dev got merged into libgtk2.0-dev? | 20:22 |
| mvo | pochu: could you put your apt.log file somewhere? I'm curious what might have cause the removal of ubuntu-desktop for you | 20:40 |
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