=== RAOF_ is now known as RAOF [00:12] RAOF, I was told you were the one to talk to about unsolvable nvidia issues [00:12] at a crossroads here. gdm won't start getting a weird error with startx tried to get my nvidia 177 driver set up. worked fine with kernel 27-2 but broke in 27-3 here is xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1201255 [00:25] how can i suggest a software beeing added to the repositories [00:26] this would be very nice http://code.google.com/p/dolphin-emu/ [00:26] instead of just posting it on brainstorm :D [00:27] btw, my gcc does not like memcopy [00:27] error: ‘memset’ was not declared in this scope [00:27] same with all mem_ commands [00:27] i updated today, but maybe i have to boot up the new kernel [00:27] -3 [01:07] is it well known that npveiewer is crashing perniciously and constantly in Intrepid? [01:08] I've filed a couple of bugs already. I want to make sure that someone knows about this and it's a high priority before Intrepid is released. [01:09] emma - I have noticed it happen allot too === ccheney is now known as calc [01:12] emma - don't worry about it. it will be addressed [01:12] * DanaG pokes Flash (and npviewer.bin) with a stick.... and watches it crash. [01:12] * DanaG breathes on it... and watches it crash. [01:12] * DanaG so much as looks at it.... crash. [01:12] =þ [01:13] lol [01:13] come on now, adopey makes a lot of fine products too [01:13] No 64-bit for Windows, either! [01:13] ... from what I've heard. [01:14] * gx009 has not seen npviewer crash yet [01:16] i use sixty four bit | amd [01:16] bsnider: cool :) [01:18] there are many reports for npviewer since 8.04 though.. [01:28] * DanaG wonders how well Linux deals with UEFI firmware, if you turn off the BIOS emulation mode. [01:54] What exactly does "task" mean when you apt-cache show a package ( for instance smartpm-core "Task: ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop-kde, xubuntu-desktop" ) ? [01:58] Jordan_U: tasksel? [02:00] crdlb: So selecting ubuntu-desktop as a task will install more than the dependencies of ubuntu-desktop, correct? [02:01] I am just trying to figure out if the fact that smartpm-core is part of the task should be considered a bug [02:02] why System Monitor is transparent, but other app like Update Manager is not? [02:03] Jordan_U: looking at /usr/share/tasksel/ubuntu-tasks.desc, the ubuntu-desktop task seems to just be the ubuntu-desktop package [02:04] crdlb: Then as far as I understand smartpm-core should not be part of the ubuntu-desktop task since it's in universe [02:07] i forgot what is smartpm [02:08] doggymenz: Smart package manager [02:08] Jordan_U: can you uninstall it without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop? [02:08] oh, ok now i remember that thing that does rpm [02:08] why System Monitor is transparent, but other app like Update Manager is not? [02:08] doggymenz: gnome-system-monitor requests an ARGB colormap [02:08] crdlb: Yes, but it was installed by default ( at least I never installed it or anything that depends on it myself ) [02:08] oh [02:09] why it does, and other app doesnt? [02:09] don't ask me :> [02:09] strange [02:09] only reason I know that is that is breaks menu shadows [02:09] oh [02:09] as compiz cannot draw shadows on an argb window since it doesn't know where to put them [02:09] ya, it does [02:10] oh [02:10] doggymenz: Because compositing wasn't available on most systems when they were first developed / the devs don't know / care about compositing [02:10] the window could have apparent rounded corners, but the window would still be a rectangle to compiz [02:10] oh [02:10] well, shadow should be less strong the more transparent it is [02:11] because if it transparent, it let in more light, and cast less shadow [02:11] thats an artistic interpretation.. [02:11] the problem is doing it efficiently [02:12] doggymenz: But having a shadow behind the whole window looks weird [02:12] yeah, if very transparent [02:13] it appears that the direction we'll be going in is apps drawing their own shadows [02:13] i hope you're not thinking thats a good idea.. [02:14] thats a horrible idea [02:14] shadows is the window managers job, not the application [02:14] why not? the decorators already do their own shadow drawing, so it would only affects menus and panels [02:14] crdlb: It looks like the reason smartpm-core is there at all is because landscape-client ( which I did not install manually ) depends on it, but landscape-client is in main. Am I correct that this is a bug? [02:14] Jordan_U: definitely sounds like it to me [02:15] it would be a broken system if you disabled universe [02:15] and how many lines of code for each program base.. i dont like it [02:15] gx009: we have toolkits for a reason [02:15] it would be automatic for menus, and one line of code for panels and such [02:16] then all apps would have different [02:16] and it would look crap [02:16] nope, you can just use XSettings to store the shadow parameters [02:17] and everyone can read it from there [02:17] "it is purpose that defines us" [02:22] but i have no purpose [02:24] Jordan_U: landscape-client is in Universe [02:24] doggymenz == undef [02:24] Hello. [02:24] When i say stable i just mean like stable enough for basic usage [02:24] browsing etc [02:24] mneptok: Not according to apt-cache show landscape-client [02:25] !info landscape-client [02:25] landscape-client (source: landscape-client): The Landscape administration system client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.18-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 147 kB, installed size 968 kB [02:25] OK, must have moved to Main for Ibex [02:25] Possibly shouldn't have :) [02:26] Bug 268604 [02:26] Launchpad bug 268604 in landscape-client "Netinstall of 20080910 fails on unmet dependencies for landscape-client" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268604 [02:26] the Landscape team is here next week. i'll talk to them about it. [02:27] that bug looks like Marc's [02:27] but he's left for the weekend already [02:27] * mneptok makes notes [02:31] why ARGB transparent window visuals are only available when using compiz? windows 2000 could do that back in the days 8 years ago [02:33] ARBG windows need hardware acceleration [02:34] thats stupid, because in Windows 2000, you didnt need hardware visualisation, and it could do transparent windows too [02:34] it was probably doing it in software [02:34] e.g. "fake" transparency, like Kicker used back in KDE 3.x [02:34] doggymenz: You can do it with xfce in software, it's just not worth it [02:34] why not worth? [02:35] Slow [02:35] doggymenz: Slow and uses too much CPU, no matter how efficient the code is [02:35] oh [02:35] Win2K did not use hardware accelerated compositing [02:35] Windows could do it because they entangled window drawing into the kernel through super-optimized hacks [02:36] oh [02:36] window drawing in kernel sounds like a stupid idea [02:36] well, that's part of why Microsoft needs thousands of developers to keep windows... maintained [02:37] doggymenz: i'm sure a lot of Microsoft employees said those same words on their last day of employment. [02:37] hehe [02:37] when i surf in firefox, or chat on irc, sometimes the part of screen that gets update, doesnt update, why? [02:37] its like some xdamage or composite error? [02:47] my kernel says 2.6.27-3-generic, how can i know if its rc3, rc4, rc5, or rc6? [02:53] doggymenz, it's rc6 [02:54] oh, thanks [02:54] but how can i know? it doesnt say [03:16] doggymenz, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid.git;a=summary [03:18] ok [03:18] no way to see inside sys tough [03:18] maybe they should make it 2.6.27.3-rc3 === inspyre is now known as nspyre [04:05] heya; can anyone help me out a bit to get my stylus working on my tablet pc ? xD === jscinoz_ is now known as jscinoz [04:14] thats the latest kernel ... [04:15] gx009 what is? ... [04:16] thats the latest kernel [04:16] kl [04:16] gk? [04:16] er kl? [04:16] typo.. i meant the 2.6.27-3 [04:26] Oh yeah, speaking of transparency... [04:26] Stardock implemented a different sort of transparency on XP, that required a decent video card; it had to support per-pixel alpha. [04:27] I do think it's stupid that Windows has you boot... into a GUI, and you really can't tell where kernel ends and userspace begins. [04:27] In Linux, you instead have the kernel, and then X on top -- so you can kill X. Can't do that in Windows. [04:30] Mmm, glitchy windeco. Thanks, nvidia (I've been told it's an nvidia bug). === LSD|Ninj2 is now known as LSD|Ninja [05:18] <`Matir> Anyone else seeing crashes with nspluginwrapper? [05:19] * DanaG pokes Flash (and npviewer.bin) with a stick.... and watches it crash. [05:19] * DanaG breathes on it... and watches it crash. [05:19] * DanaG so much as looks at it.... crash. [05:19] =þ [05:24] o: [05:35] Hey everybody, does anybody know anything about the package "landscape-client"? I looked it up on the Ubuntu package search and didn't get anything conclusive [05:39] ghindo: aptitude show landscape-client [05:40] literal: Cool, thanks! [05:58] What use does it have for standalone systems? Anything? [06:00] DanaG: Advertising for Canonical ;) [06:10] yay, now evdev will support wheel emulation and such when used through an fdi file. [06:17] heh, how many people do you think use amazon search in firefox? === Gumby` is now known as Gumby === jscinoz_ is now known as jscinoz [07:16] hi guys [07:17] hey chuy_max sup? [07:18] I just tried Alpha5, and I can see some partitions (ext3, NTFS) under /dev/ directory, but neither swap partition, nor encrypted filesystems (using dm-crypt) are recognized [07:20] I'm upgrading from Hardy right now and can't see the swap in it [07:21] Arenlor, can't you see the swap in hardy? [07:21] nope [07:21] I can see both swap, and encrypted partitions in hardy, but not in intrepid [07:21] Maybe it's a package you have installed? [07:23] mmmm, I don't think so, I'm booting xubuntu hardy live cd and check it [07:24] Maybe that's it, KDE? I have GNOME. I have only a few partitions on here and SDA1 is my swap and it's pointedly missing in it [07:24] and maybe I'm asking in #linux too, do you guys know if it is intended behavior to not list swap nor encrypted partitions without some special package? [07:25] Arenlor, I have gnome in this box too, I just downloaded xubuntu for an old laptop I got a couple of days ago [07:26] Well I can't seem to find my swap drive, so maybe someone bugged somewhere just recently that you didn't update? [07:29] Arenlor, you mean, swap partition not listed under /dev/, right? [07:29] correct, nor is it in any of the directories in /dev/disk/ [07:30] evolution will not show message text of recieved messages [07:31] od for a mail client not to show mail [07:31] bah, I downloaded xubuntu alternate, I forgot [07:38] hey Arenlor, what does cat /proc/swaps show? [07:40] says: /dev/sda1 partition 3140668 40184 -1 [07:41] Arenlor, can you show me the output of echo /dev/sd* and sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda [07:42] echo /dev/sd* is: /dev/sda /dev/sda2 /dev/sda3 /dev/sda5 /dev/sda6 [07:44] Arenlor: there is another cool command: blkid [07:45] /dev/sda1 1 391 3140676 82 Linux swap / Solaris [07:45] /dev/sda2 * 392 2961 20636668 7 HPFS/NTFS [07:45] Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. [07:45] /dev/sda3 2962 4420 11719417+ 5 Extended [07:45] /dev/sda5 2962 3934 7815591 83 Linux [07:45] /dev/sda6 3935 4420 3903763+ 83 Linux [07:45] blkid is cool, it shows my swap [07:45] well, there is your swap [07:46] first partition [07:46] yep, but it's not showing IN /dev/ [07:47] maybe a problem with udev? [07:48] Arenlor, probably you should file a bug for hardy [07:49] can't get firefox to launch for some reason related to the upgrade and the upgrade will be done in a minute or so [07:52] The big questions is, why is there 1 minutes left instead of 1 minute? [07:56] where will the install log be found? [07:56] Heh, this old laptop goes up to 100% battery, then counts down to 85%........ and then drops to 2. [07:57] 2%, that is. [07:57] Then it turns off. [07:59] You're lucky, my year old laptop just skips all the count down crap and just does the turning off [07:59] mmmm, launchpad uses what can be considered as unproper usage of tables for layouts [08:01] anyone know where the install log will be located, I highly suspect fglrx did not get placed onto my system correctly (have a fail at that step, exit code 7) [08:03] time for reboot, wish me luck [08:03] I'm also lucky that that old one is not my primary machine. It's a spare. [08:13] Is there anyone around who uses gnucash? [08:13] upgraded at work yesterday and had a bit of a struggle to get back my dual screen setup (ati/fglrx). on my home laptop I have an nvidia card. can I expect an upgrade to go smoother on that setup, or are there known nvidia-issues as well? [08:35] apport has caught a few issues already, all I believe stemming from fglrx [08:43] anyone know if ibex ships w/ empathy? [08:44] It doesn't. [08:44] But it's easy to install. [08:45] bah, useless bloatware [08:45] To you [08:46] Reed_Solomon: i just want to play with it, is that not allowed in free software anymore? [08:46] im just kidding [08:46] have you played with it though? [08:46] no [08:46] watch it, the only thing we call bloatware here is from M$ [08:46] i have no empathy [08:47] i just read the phoronix on the latest gnome release, it sounds like a progressive replacement for pidgin [08:47] :) [08:47] RAOF: do you think it'll be in universe or something like that? [08:48] Arenlor: It's important to remember that saying "M$" reminds people of this: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/7/22/ :) [08:48] niklauz: It already is, and has been for at least a couple of releases. [08:49] lol you say that like I'd be ashamed of any of that RAOF [08:49] * RAOF has a noble goal: to ensure no one else need say "while '$' may look like a letter, it isn't". [08:51] I've never heard anyone say that, ever [08:54] lmit 21 [08:59] is there any documentation on how to configure X server for 8.10 [08:59] are we still supposed to edit the xorg.conf directly? [08:59] to setup tablet stylus and extra mouse buttons [09:59] so... [10:08] Hi [10:12] hi [10:13] I can't get a wireless connection with kubuntu intrepid + network manager (worked in hardy). Is this the right place to ask? [10:19] yes [10:19] what network card do you have? [10:20] iwl4965 [10:20] iwlist wlan0 scan does list all networks. [10:20] this is ubuntu+1 ... isn't there a kubuntu alpha? [10:20] irc channel [10:21] ... I have Alpha 5 with the iwl4965 card and the install went smooth [10:21] I've got a thinkpad X61 [10:21] da1l6: are you using KDE4? [10:21] yes [10:21] I can try to log into it and see if it works or not [10:21] there is a #kubuntu-kde4, should i ask there [10:22] maybe [10:22] probably [10:22] I've always had bad luck with Kubuntu being stable [10:22] so now I just run KDE apps in Gnome with Ubuntu [10:23] I find that works better [10:23] i don't expect it to run flawless in alpha, but wireless is essential for me [10:24] well since it's alpha [10:25] I'd recommend installing the Ubuntu Alpha 5 (which works fine) and then installing KDe4 after the install [10:25] which seems to work fine here [10:25] do you know what they're doing differently in KDE4 for Kubuntu besides setting it to the default WM [10:25] da1l6: I think that knetworkmanager isn't in sync with network-manager. I believe that if you install network-manager-gnome and run nm-applet you can have working wireless. [10:26] RAOF, thanks lets see if i can get this working. [10:27] anyway, i just wanted to mention that issue before it ends up in stable, when its too late. [10:42] nope, networkmanager-gnome doesn't work either. Wireless AP gets connected, DHCP Discover arrives, DHCP Offer is sent, but it does not assign the IP and finally gives up. [11:00] do you have problem with the last firefox update? [11:00] vistakiller: I did upgrade this morning, and I've got no problem sofar. [11:01] i lost my search engines [11:01] my site tag [11:01] ok sorry i think i fix it === acuster is now known as avc_lunch [11:10] i had a problem until I restarted firefox [11:10] HAI! [11:10] Intrepid is silent, even though I've followed the "perfect setup" instructions for PulseAudio. How do I begin to diagnose my sound problems? [11:14] Unplug your headphones that you forgot were there. [11:14] This happened to me once. It was lolful. [11:14] Nope. But worth a shot. Hardy sound works fine, but Intrepid is completely silent. [11:14] :) [11:28] it's supposed to be silent [11:28] hardy was too loud [11:29] no one liked it [11:29] it's fixed now [11:31] ROFL! [11:31] Great answer. Funny. [11:37] :P [11:40] hi, i just finished downloading kubuntu intrepid alpha5 (alternate cd), i want to install it in a VM using virtualox, but as soon i choose to install, i get a non ending shower of "unable to handle kernel bug" setneces all over the screen! [11:41] what kernel options can i use to boot it in a fail safe mode? [11:45] anybody? [11:46] anybody else having major issues with KVM? [11:46] virstualbox seems to work alright [11:49] !pastebin [11:49] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [11:52] why is the new python2.5 depending on a bunch of x11 libraries? not good for server installs.. [11:52] http://imagebin.ca/view/oY8W39Hw.html [11:54] Oh hey, where is the gnome panel config stored? [11:54] Is it in gconf? I copied from one computer to another... and it didn't take effect. === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [12:12] hi guys [12:12] What is the filename of the program that has been compiled from ../gnome-panel/panel-menu-bar.c [12:13] DanaG: What do you mean by "the gnome panel config"? [12:14] which applets are where. [12:23] Hello [12:27] Does anybody know how to disable the "HW radio frequency kill switch" when there's no such button on the laptop and no setting in the BIOS? [12:27] * kahrytan is glad they fixed Intrepid and Vbox issue [12:28] It's an Asus Z37S laptop with an intel wireless 5300 (iwlagn) card [12:28] The strange thing is, the card actually works for like 10 seconds when booting up, but gets disabled thereafter (because of the kill switch) :-/ [12:29] As such I can see the available networks but am unable to actually connect [12:29] Any help would be much appreciated [12:31] Also tried to manually patch the driver and unset the kill switch bit, but had no success [12:34] Is it true the metacity theme in alpha5 is just a bug in installer? [12:38] Hi guys. Anyone had a problem with nm-applet not saving static wired ethernet connection info on reboot? Keeps reverting to dhcp. [12:39] Latest updates, running under vmware. [12:43] There's a decent Wall-Light mockup... [12:43] inubuntu wiki [12:44] you mean this one, http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/215/e/1/Interpid_Ibex_Mockup_Part_1_by_willwill100.png ? [12:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Wall-light [12:46] Yeah... I meant, "a decent theme". [12:47] Well, I gotta go, unfortunately. ttyl [12:47] Artwork team is working on it [12:49] Perfect Wallpaper for Ibex, http://inigoalonso.com/imagen/la_cabra/la_cabra1600_06.png [13:14] hi [13:14] did you also get that EULA page in Firefox after the lastest upgrade? [13:21] hay all not sure if this is an intrepid or kde4.1 issue, but i can't seam to find my printer options, any one have any ideas? [13:23] shadowhywind: you should be able to configure your printer with the system-config-printer-kde application [13:24] jtechidna: sweet i will look into that [13:25] i would have assumed they would have added that to the systemsettings app [13:25] anyone got network manager working with wpa ? [13:26] jtechidna: you wouldn't happen to know how to add a pdf printer would you? [13:26] shadowhywind: there should be a pdf printer by default [13:26] jtechidna: really?? i don't [13:27] well, for anything except pdf [13:27] you can't print from pdf to pdf in Okular, that's about the only place you don't get a print to pdf optoin [13:28] jtechidna: well in the printer-kde app, all i have is my acturall printer. in firefox all i get is my printer and print to file [13:28] ah, Firefox... [13:28] no clue how you'd get firefox to have a print to pdf option [13:30] shadowhywind: {maybe} this can work , http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/ [13:31] looking for help to set up my xorg.conf for intrepid. it used to work for hardy but no longer does. default settings work but title bars don't appear on windows. [13:31] gourgi: sweet that is exactly what i am looking for [13:31] shadowhywind:np ;) [13:32] ailean: are you running compiz? [13:32] shadowhywind, i should be (I think so) [13:32] ailean: thats your issue (now if i can remember the command.. haven't had to use it in a while) [13:33] ailean: Alt+F2 , type 'metacity --replace' , and you won't run compiz anymore [13:33] shadowhywind, what's wrong then? [13:33] gourgi, what runs in compiz's place now? [13:34] gourgi: hehe thats the command [13:34] ailean: it is metacity obvious [13:34] ailean: are you windows borders back now ? [13:34] gourgi, nope. [13:35] ailean: Alt+F2 , type 'compiz --replace' , and you go back to compiz again [13:36] gourgi, but neither compiz nor metacity are working. [13:36] gourgi, i think the problem is that i don't have composite extensions enabled. [13:37] gourgi, but without them i think i should get a basic display [13:37] ailean: what is your graphics card ? [13:38] ati radeon mobile [13:38] ailean:what is 'fglrx | grep RADEON' command's output ? [13:39] command not found [13:40] ailean:can you paste your xorg to a pastebin please ? [13:40] i'm running on the default xorg.conf. do you want the previous one? [13:40] ailean: both of them please [13:40] k [13:43] current: http://paste.ubuntu.com/46604/ [13:44] attempt at using ati card: http://paste.ubuntu.com/46607/ [13:46] gourgi, i think it's down to getting this graphics card to work... [13:48] ailean:maybe you can try some settings from this xorg here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916805 [13:49] ailean: look at the 'device' section , obiously you should have ati drivers installed [13:50] hi all entries are duplicated in hal . Is this a known issue ? I am looking at the diff between debian (that works) and intrepid but have not found out why yet [13:51] gourgi, yep, i have installed the driver. there's a bit of new info for me here. thanks for your help, i'll come back if i get stuck :) [13:51] could even be an udev issue ... have to check [13:55] though if one check in gnome-device-manager this become obvious that something is wrong [14:57] gnome won't start, xfce and kde work fine. gnome just hangs after login showing only the background image. I have the nvidia 177.70, 67 and 68 failed as well. [15:25] how do i upgrade to 8.10. want to try in a vm [15:26] update-manager -d [15:26] k thanks [15:30] mphill: is the ubuntu-desktop package installed? [15:30] I had that problem yesterday, and it was caused by an upgrade that uninstalled ubuntu-desktop and some related packages [16:00] oliver_g_1: sorry, i was eating breakfast, lemme check [16:01] dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop [16:01] ii xubuntu-desktop 2.68 Xubuntu desktop system [16:01] is that the problem? [16:01] check /var/log/dpkg.log [16:02] there's probably a line stating the ubuntu-desktop was removed [16:02] 2008-09-10 22:40:40 remove ubuntu-desktop 1.112 1.112 [16:02] in any case, yes, try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [16:02] yup [16:02] nice [16:02] i will try [16:03] i blew away my .gcong and .gnome* :( tisk tisk [16:03] oops === avc_lunch is now known as acuster [16:49] hi anyone know how the gnome-session dispatch the gnome-keyring events ? there is an helper script that seems to hardcode the dispatch to gnome-keyring instead of seahorse-agent [16:50] this does not exists in debian so I am quite lost . Could you provides hints on how to get seahorse-agent to be used in ubuntu intrepid [16:50] it was working under hardy [17:25] !repos [17:25] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [17:25] what are the intrepid repos? [17:25] !intepid [17:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about intepid [17:25] !upgrade [17:25] !intrepid [17:25] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [17:25] Alpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion | Warning lots of broken software between now and October! [17:29] what are the 2 intrepid repos? [17:33] !repos [17:33] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [17:34] i need libc6's latest version [17:38] intrepids stability has increased with some of the recent upgrades in my opinion [17:39] doesn't seem to crash when I close the lid and go into screensaver anyways [17:40] Reed_Solomon, can you plz give me the intrepid repos you use? [17:41] ca.archive.ubuntu.com [17:44] never mind [17:44] found the packages i need in lauchpad [18:29] ok found the issue . bad commit in network-manager that went into intrepid [18:47] I can't seem to get sound to work in wine [18:55] Jordan_U: well.. depends on the program [18:55] Reed_Solomon: winecfg audio test fails [18:56] oh [18:56] well then [18:56] which driver is being used [19:11] well this is not working the way i hoped, guest additions from vbox don't allow me to resize the screen [19:11] i will have to edit config file later for resolutions [19:19] Reed_Solomon: Alsa, but all drivers fail [19:19] odd [19:20] works for me in any case [19:20] so, hm [19:20] any other sound programs monopolizing the card? [19:21] Hello, I have no app gnome-font-viewer anymore in the gnome-control-center package in alpha5. Should I file a bug or has something changed? [19:24] To my surprise, enabling Visual Effects worked! Is it a bug that it wasn't enabled by default, or is it supposed to be that way? [19:39] mickep: if there is no such bug already, better file one... [19:39] oliver_g_1: ok, I will [19:39] oliver_g_1: that worked like a charm, i am back in gnome [19:41] Argh, it turns out, on this nv17 or whatever it is, nouveau is way slower than nv. [19:41] nouveau makes the X server take up like 30% CPU. [19:42]