[00:28] <Myrtti> !no ops-#xubuntu is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild or cody-somerville
[00:28]  * PriceChild whispers PM
[00:29] <Myrtti> tsk
[00:29] <PriceChild> Although knowing what you're changing is also good.
[00:29] <Myrtti> just wanted to make sure everyone in question here know what I did
[00:29] <PriceChild> yup :)
[00:31] <Myrtti> also: am going to bed, if anyone of the afforementioned is going to be online for few more moments, #xubuntu might be worth looking for, since I only kicked jimmy_birer from there, did *NOT* ban.
[00:32] <Myrtti> if you want do ban him pre-emptively, be my guest.
[00:32] <Myrtti> nini kids.
[00:32] <stdin> Myrtti: he seems to have quit
[03:33] <ryanakca> Would a nick of ``BadassMF'' be appropriate in #kubuntu ? My guess would be no?
[03:34] <ryanakca> ... Nevermind, he or she /quit , but for future reference?
[03:35] <elkbuntu> worth asking them to change. their reaction will either be to change, or give good reason to boot them out
[03:35] <elkbuntu> very rarely does a situation in between occur
[03:36] <ryanakca> elkbuntu: ok, thanks :)
[03:52] <ubot3> In #ubuntuforums-beginners, Robb_M said: ubot3: forget blame
[03:54] <Flannel> !blame
[09:34] <elkbuntu> whoa wth. ultabreaksit fans seem to have nuked all negative comments from the wikipedia page
[09:34] <jussi01> oh? where are we talking?
[09:35] <elkbuntu> jussi01, the wikipedia page the kid in #ubuntu quoted
[09:38] <jussi01> heh
[09:39] <jussi01> some wikiepedia editor should edit the reception part to include something about the recption by the technichal community...
[09:39] <jussi01> and quote all those blogs that were on planet
[09:39] <elkbuntu> that's the bit that i believe used to be there
[09:39] <elkbuntu> i was certain my post was once listed as a source too
[09:40] <jussi01> oh, really? heh
[09:41] <elkbuntu> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ultamatix&diff=236385373&oldid=234938291
[09:45] <jussi01> sigh...
[09:48] <elkbuntu> a bit blatent, isnt it
[09:49] <jussi01> pretty harsh...
[10:03] <jussi01> errr, why didnt that come here?
[10:04] <jussi01> stdin: have we broken something?
[10:04] <stdin> don't think so
[10:05] <stdin> jussi01: I'll have a dig about, free free to deal with ghkdrbals
[10:05] <jussi01> alright
[10:08] <stdin> I think because it was 'op' and not 'ops'
[10:10] <stdin> yep, it only matches 'ops' it seems
[10:10] <Myrtti> morning
[10:10] <stdin> weird how you don't notice certain things ey?
[10:10] <stdin> morning Myrtti \o
[10:14] <Seeker`> morning
[10:34] <Flannel> elkbuntu: Interetsing how the Automatix link was removed
[10:34] <stdin> jussi01: (mostly) fixed now
[10:35] <jussi01> :D
[10:35] <stdin> there's one factoid I can't make ubottu relay, because it has spaces. but it's never used so I'm not worried :)
[10:36] <jussi01> hehe
[10:37] <stdin> use config/channel plugins.Encyclopedia.alert to add/remove them if you ever need to (probably won't though)
[10:38] <Myrtti> why haven't you reverted that article if it's bad?
[10:39] <Myrtti> revert and add sources
[10:42] <elkbuntu> Flannel, i made a comment on the talk page, no idea how to make that actually go anywhere other than that
[10:43] <Flannel> Myrtti: ^^
[10:43] <stdin> I'm looking at the sources, it's not just based on automatix, most of the automatix code is still there :|
[10:43] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, amusingly, reverting will add the sources back in
[10:43] <elkbuntu> stdin, i know
[10:43] <Myrtti> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ultamatix&action=edit&oldid=235490076
[10:44] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, im scared about doing anything because one of the sources is my blog
[10:44] <Myrtti> well then
[10:45]  * Myrtti logs in
[10:58] <Myrtti> you think "I've been an admin on the Finnish Wikipedia and currently am member of the Finnish Arbitration Comittee." would scare people off?
[11:02] <Myrtti> so, where was I again
[11:03] <Myrtti> which of those versions is the most correct one?
[11:04] <Myrtti> this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ultamatix&oldid=234938291
[11:06] <elkbuntu> kind of. it's certainly more correct than the current one
[11:06] <Myrtti> and you know, I think it's a time for me to make myself breakfast ie. first drink of the day \o/
[11:06] <elkbuntu> it probably has extra unneeded stuff, but it's at least balanced
[11:07] <Myrtti> who is the Author of Ultamatix?
[11:08] <Myrtti> https://launchpad.net/theemahn2003?
[11:08] <elkbuntu> yes.
[11:09] <Myrtti> real name known?
[11:09] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, not a clue
[11:10] <elkbuntu> bwahahaha. 'Ultamatix is a pick up and virtually entire re-write of "Automatix".'
[11:10] <elkbuntu> like hell it is.
[11:10] <Myrtti> run a diff?
[11:10] <Myrtti> we need to lather that wikipedia article FULL of facts
[11:10] <Myrtti> with sources
[11:11] <Myrtti> aha
[11:11] <Myrtti> Cady Glenn
[11:11] <elkbuntu> i havent read the entire code. just the scary parts.
[11:17] <Myrtti> right
[11:17] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, there were apparantly more than just my blog on planet too
[11:17] <Myrtti> if you have time, please search them?
[11:18] <elkbuntu> Ultamatix is a pick up and virtually entire re-write of "Automatix".
[11:18] <elkbuntu> ugh, stupid buffer
[11:18] <elkbuntu> http://www.stevey.eu/2008/08/ultamatix-ubuntu-nl-warns-against/
[11:21] <Myrtti> do you remember the days that the software was dissected here?
[11:21] <Myrtti> those irc logs can be useful too
[11:23] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, the day i wrote that post
[11:23] <stdin> who said they wanted a diff? ;) http://pastebin.com/d2dd9aac
[11:23] <elkbuntu> hmm, i wonder if i can blog-bomb the page?
[11:24] <stdin> automatix 2.0.7 vs current ultamatix
[11:25] <Myrtti> damn, I really need the real name of that stevey.eu feller
[11:25] <Myrtti> otherwise I don't dare to cite it
[11:25] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, domain whois
[11:26] <elkbuntu> stdin, most of the added stuff is gui crap
[11:26] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: I did
[11:26] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, protected?
[11:27] <stdin> yeah, and most of that diff is added commends and automatix -> ultimatix
[11:27]  * elkbuntu attempts a blogbomb of the wiki page >:)
[11:27] <Myrtti> don't do anything yet while I'm editing it
[11:28] <elkbuntu> it'll take me a while to write it
[11:29] <Myrtti> ok, we need more *positive* claims on it now
[11:31] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, use technorati or similar to find stuff on it
[11:31] <Myrtti> I can see why this version of the article has been edited
[11:32] <Myrtti> it has the critique before positive reactions
[11:34] <elkbuntu> if you're concerned there's too much negativity, selectively remove some of the repetitive stuff
[11:36] <Myrtti> I am
[11:42] <elkbuntu> oh goodie: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/31/%23ubuntu-ops.txt
[11:42] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, there's your log
[11:43] <elkbuntu> fortunately the pastebins still live
[11:47] <Myrtti> lol
[11:47] <Myrtti> "The only thing that is more or less interesting of Ultamatix are the games that can be installed. Some of them can be installed by Add/Remove, but not others like Vegastrice or Warzone 2100. So in that case Ultamatix is useful. Even though all this, there are no really new things. Actually, the look is not different in comparison with the old Automatix. So you decide."
[11:48] <elkbuntu> haha, where is that?
[11:50] <elkbuntu> Myrtti?
[11:50] <elkbuntu> oh noes. she's died laughing
[11:54] <Myrtti> http://www.somgnu.org/ultamatix-the-new-automatix/
[11:56] <Myrtti> I have to say that although maco has been doing a great job in trying to kill Ultamatix by commenting the blog entries, it does seem a bit weird
[11:59] <elkbuntu> heh
[11:59] <Myrtti> ie. raises questions
[12:00] <elkbuntu> no more than the fact that i had a blog post that got used as a source, as well as the fact that i noticed it was missing so kicked up this stink
[12:01] <stdin> re: paste #32398; why in the name of all that is holy would you "sudo chmod +x" a .deb file? and, more importantly, why would anyone let someone who thinks that's a good idea ever produce anything anyone may or may not use?
[12:04] <elkbuntu> stdin, you mean, other than the fact that the joker thinks that a sudo'd script needs sudo before every command in it?
[12:05] <stdin> sudo sudo sudo su -c /bin/echo "Yeah"
[12:06] <elkbuntu> without checking, i'm pretty certain that somewhere in there, it sudo's a GUI thing with regular sudo instead of gksudo too
[12:08] <stdin> and it has "rm -rf ... > /dev/null 2>&1"
[12:08] <stdin> which means they don't actually know how to use rm
[12:09] <stdin> unless they liked the irony of redirecting nothing to /dev/null
[12:09] <elkbuntu> heh
[12:09] <elkbuntu> you mean, rm has a quiet flag? like cool
[12:12] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, how you going, hon?
[12:15] <Myrtti> organizing
[12:18] <jrib> stdin: well they are redierecting errors, right?
[12:21] <stdin> what errors would rm -rf print when run as root?
[12:21] <stdin> unless you're trying to remove something in /proc or /sys
[12:21] <stdin> which is a bad sign anyway
[12:21] <elkbuntu> do they?
[12:23] <stdin> no, just things in /home/*/, /etc/, /usr/bin/, /usr/lib/, /usr/share/, /usr/local/ ...
[12:23] <stdin> and most do use "*" in them
[12:25]  * elkbuntu twitches
[12:26] <elkbuntu> hrm. i want icecream. i have none. :(
[12:26] <stdin> apt-get install icecc ?
[12:26] <Myrtti> hmmm
[12:27] <elkbuntu> i might have to put pants back on and run across the road to the pharmacy. they sell icecreams
[12:27] <Myrtti> I think I might save a draft at this point so you can have a look
[12:27] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, thanks :)
[12:27] <elkbuntu> you're a such a good friend :)
[12:29] <Myrtti> hm
[12:29] <Myrtti> I seem to have logged out
[12:29] <Myrtti> oh well
[12:30] <elkbuntu> there's a save
[12:30] <elkbuntu> i see it
[12:30] <Myrtti> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ultamatix&diff=238126203&oldid=236385373
[12:31] <Myrtti> you see, the earlier version wasn't written from NPOV (atleast in the NPOV the Finnish Wikipedia uses)
[12:31] <Myrtti> I need that caipirinha
[12:31] <elkbuntu> there's no way it was NPOV...
[12:32] <elkbuntu> aherm, my nick does not be: elkubuntu and you can call me by my real name anyway :Þ
[12:32] <Myrtti> you need to have both the positive and negative critique
[12:32] <Myrtti> I think I did?
[12:32] <elkbuntu> ah yes, i see you did
[12:32] <elkbuntu> but why misspell my nick :( :Þ
[12:33] <Myrtti> pft
[12:33] <Myrtti> I miss spelled Ultamatix million times
[12:33] <Myrtti> and did remember to fix those before sending
[12:33]  * elkbuntu huggles Myrtti heaps anyway
[12:34] <elkbuntu> now, pants and icecream
[12:34] <elkbuntu> doesnt *that* sound bad...
[12:34] <Myrtti> now, pants and caipirinha
[12:34] <Nafallo> sounds... interesting :-)
[12:36] <Myrtti> you've not had caipirinhas before?
[12:36] <Myrtti> omnomnom
[12:36] <Myrtti> though I don't have sugar cane vodka/spirits but rhum
[12:36] <Myrtti> but its omnomnom
[12:38] <Nafallo> ^-- @elkbuntu
[12:40] <Myrtti> haha
[12:43] <elkbuntu> Nafallo, heh
[12:44] <elkbuntu> icecream successfully obtained
[12:44] <elkbuntu> falling up the stairs on my way back because of all the wine i've drunk tonight, successfully achieved.
[12:46] <Myrtti> haha
[12:46] <Myrtti> I might go and get more rhum
[12:46] <Myrtti> I've got limes but no more rhum
[12:46] <ompaul> rum ?
[12:46] <ompaul> who knows
[12:47] <ompaul> no one really, they are just a set of agreed random shapes that seem to inhabit port 8001 and 6667 of the interwebs
[12:47] <Myrtti> hmmmm
[12:48] <Myrtti> what else needs to be fixed in that article?
[12:48] <Myrtti> oh yes
[12:49] <elkbuntu> aside from the fact it exists?
[12:49] <ompaul> Myrtti, what article?
[12:49] <Myrtti> why doesn't arin return whois for ultamatix.com?
[12:50] <Myrtti> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultamatix
[12:50] <ompaul>  Domain Name: ULTAMATIX.COM
[12:50] <ompaul>       Created on: 08-Jul-08
[12:50] <Myrtti> yes, but I need the webpage
[12:50] <ompaul> someone hates freedom, it is registered with godaddy :)
[12:50] <Myrtti> whois on commandline isn't sufficient citable source
[12:51] <ompaul> ok
[12:51] <elkbuntu> ompaul, the ultamatix wikipedia article suddenly in the past two weeks lost every trace of criticism...
[12:51] <Myrtti> so I (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User:Myrtti) offered help ;-)
[12:52] <Myrtti> I suspect the admins and helpers in en:wikipedia do acknowledge my references in fi:wikipedia as former admin and current member of ArbCom :-þ
[12:52] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, network solutions has the whois
[12:52] <Myrtti> leverage baby, leverage
[12:52] <elkbuntu> http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=ultamatix.com
[12:52] <ompaul> http://ultamatix.com/
[12:56] <Myrtti> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Ultamatix&diff=238129382&oldid=238128431
[12:56] <Myrtti> stdin: do you have a blog?
[12:57] <stdin> Myrtti: technically
[12:57] <stdin> I have one, I just don't actually use it ;)
[12:57] <Myrtti> who did the dissection of Ultamatix earlier?
[12:58] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, you mean when i did the blog post? flannel and wgrant.
[12:58]  * elkbuntu wonders if the summonsing works
[12:58] <Myrtti> stdin: it would help if someone who did that dissection would write a blog entry about that work, and would include that diff of stdins
[12:59] <elkbuntu> um, wouldnt this count as original research?
[12:59] <stdin> the post in paste.u.c is only set to last for a day, so I'd recommend copying it
[12:59] <Myrtti> the original research is already done
[12:59] <Myrtti> that's why I'm not suggesting that stdin writes the blog entry :-D
[12:59] <elkbuntu> ah
[13:00] <Myrtti> we've got those irc logs backing that up
[13:00] <elkbuntu> i can hardly write another either
[13:00] <Myrtti> yup, it's not yours to do
[13:00] <stdin> the tarball I generated the diff from: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13010881/automatix_2.0.7.orig.tar.gz
[13:00] <Myrtti> and not mine either
[13:00] <Myrtti> since I'm editing the wikipedia article
[13:00] <elkbuntu> ooh, i spot a pici in them there logs
[13:00]  * Myrtti pokes Pici 
[13:01] <Myrtti> now is your moment to shine
[13:01] <Myrtti> again
[13:01] <Myrtti> the blog entry we'd need
[13:01] <elkbuntu> he's also set /away
[13:01] <Myrtti> hold on
[13:02] <elkbuntu> stdin, rofl. you know how he's piping the rm <evil> command to /dev/null because he doesnt know how it works...
[13:02] <Myrtti> "Now that the air has cleared up and more time since Ultamatix (link) release and our job in researching it has passed, I'd like to reveal the painstaking amount of work..."
[13:03] <elkbuntu> stdin, [02:22] <Flannel> wgrant: The rm's are because he doesn't understand what -purge means
[13:04] <Myrtti> "Recently I revisited some of the code with Terence (link) and noted that the differences Glenn (link) claims to have done to Ultamatix in contrast to Automatix (link)"
[13:04] <stdin> "I don't know how you work, so don't talk to me", heh
[13:04] <Myrtti> "are only cosmetic as can be seen with the common unix tool, diff (link)"
[13:05] <Myrtti> oy. strong stuff this caipirinha
[13:05] <Myrtti> \o/
[13:05] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, i dont feel right about doing it, since i'm now on the talk page of that article
[13:06] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: shush, you're *not* doing it
[13:06] <Myrtti> Pici, Flannel or wgrant is.
[13:06] <elkbuntu> ah
[13:06] <Myrtti> yes, you sorry little innocent people reading your backlogs.
[13:06] <Myrtti> one of YOU is going to blog about this.
[13:06] <elkbuntu> i dont think wgrant blogs
[13:06]  * Myrtti points her little trembling finger
[13:07] <Myrtti> UBUNTU NEEDS YOU!
[13:07] <ompaul> na they hate me :P
[13:07]  * ompaul grins evilly 
[13:08] <Myrtti> I wonder how long Alko is open
[13:09] <Myrtti> YAY until six
[13:15] <Myrtti> mine isn't actually that different
[13:15] <Myrtti> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ultamatix&diff=238129382&oldid=235408989
[13:16] <Myrtti> hum
[13:16] <Myrtti> having a caipirinha before actually eating anything wasn't a good idea
[13:21] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, hehe
[13:26]  * elkbuntu cuddles Myrtti for her awesome work on that wikipedia page
[13:27] <Myrtti> I still haven't lost my touch, it seems
[13:28] <elkbuntu> as much as i hate the abuse of the word censorship, the editing on there the past two weeks was pretty damn close to something one could use it on legitimately.
[13:33] <Myrtti> my boss, the PR person of Fi-wiki thinks it shouldn't be on wikipedia at all
[13:33] <Myrtti> "notability none"
[13:39] <elkbuntu> haha :)
 what else needs to be fixed in that article?
 oh yes
 aside from the fact it exists?
[13:40] <ompaul> elkbuntu, I have a terrible feeling of deja'vous all over again
[13:40] <ompaul> and yet time marches on, with nothing to hold it back other than gravity
[13:40] <Myrtti> ompaul, son, you need to stop eating those 'shrooms.
[13:41] <ompaul> Myrtti, I don't need anything to help think
[13:41] <elkbuntu> ompaul, nah. you see, while arnie actually did write alot of code, albeit it really bad code. mr cady just did a sed on the script and called it his own. he outright calls it a complete rewrite. this is plagiarism
[13:41] <ompaul> I manage very well
[13:41] <ompaul> elkbuntu, no, my reference was to your use of the same text again
[13:41] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: also removed GPL licence and notes about it in the code
[13:42] <ompaul> Myrtti, send him to gplviolations.org
[13:42] <Myrtti> debian/ contains only the control in the tar.gz
[13:43] <Myrtti> I don't bother checking the .deb
[13:43] <Myrtti> I assume it's the same
[13:44] <Myrtti> some food would be nice
[13:44] <ompaul> dpkg -x and have a look inside rather than wondering
[13:44] <ompaul> and have some target in your home directory
[13:46]  * Myrtti yawns
[13:46] <Myrtti> not after a strong caipirinha, dear
[13:46] <Myrtti> I haz the dumb
[13:48] <ompaul> I see no source packages for 1.4 on the site
[13:48] <Myrtti> http://ultamatix.com/download/ultamatix-1.8.0-4_all.tar.gz
[13:49] <Myrtti> http://ultamatix.com/download/ultamatix-1.8.0-4_all.deb
[13:49] <elkbuntu> bu... bu...but i dun want virus :(
[13:49] <Myrtti> you just don't give it your password, silly girl
[13:50] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, it steals the password
[13:50] <Myrtti> oh NOES!
[13:50] <elkbuntu> [02:03] <Pici> NU=$(cat /etc/passwd | grep 1000 | cut -d: -f1)  and then build stuff in /home/$NU/compiz-scripts/
[13:50] <elkbuntu> well, not quite, but damn near close enough
[13:50] <Myrtti> well, yes.
[13:51] <Myrtti> but you need to give sudo or gksudo your password before installing those silly stuffs, ne?
[13:51] <Myrtti> :-þ
[13:52] <elkbuntu> yeah, i was just messing
[13:53] <elkbuntu> hahaha: [04:52] <elky_work> from now on, these sorts of crack are to be referred to as GoAXs, because they make you want to Go AX(e) the author
[13:53] <elkbuntu> (really, it's short for Ghost of AutomatiX)
[13:54] <ompaul> elkbuntu, you inspire me to do some silly things like: cat /etc/passwd | grep 1000 | cut -d: -f1
[13:54] <Myrtti> oooh ooh
[13:54] <ompaul> elkbuntu, you inspire me to do some silly things like: cat /etc/passwd | grep 1 | cut -d: -f1
[13:54] <ompaul> sorry
[13:54] <ompaul> that is wrong
[13:54] <ompaul> sorry no cut
[13:54] <ompaul> I played with it
[13:55] <ompaul> cat /etc/passwd | grep 1  | cut -d: -f7 | uniq
[13:55] <jrib> getent  ftw
[13:56] <ompaul> cat /etc/passwd | grep 1  | cut -d: -f7 | uniq -u
[13:56] <Myrtti> it just doesn't make any sense
[13:56] <Myrtti> it's the WOOKIE!
[13:56] <ompaul> wikiiii
[13:56] <ompaul> wikiiii
[13:56] <ompaul> wikiiii
[13:56] <ompaul> wookie wookie wookie
[13:57] <Myrtti> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_defense
[13:57]  * ompaul coughs
[13:57]  * elkbuntu pets ompaul. that's nice dear.
[13:57] <Myrtti> "Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, Chef's attorney would certainly want you to believe that his client wrote "Stinky Britches" ten years ago. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now ...
[13:57] <Myrtti> ... think about it; that does not make sense!"
[13:58] <ompaul> elkbuntu, I am sure it was
[13:58] <ompaul> for an ewok!
[13:59] <ompaul> I remember the cold war as if it was yesterday
[16:42] <runtime> Hi
[16:42] <runtime> I have no idea why I seem to be banned from #ubuntu
[16:42] <runtime> I can't join, at least, so I'm assuming I'm banned
[16:43] <Seeker`> runtime: do you usually use that nickname?
[16:44] <runtime> Yeah
[16:44] <Seeker`> aha
[16:44] <Seeker`> Java Users are banned
[16:44] <runtime> why?
[16:45] <Seeker`> I dont know
[16:45] <Seeker`> You will have to wait until someone that knows stuff is around
[16:45] <Seeker`> Pici: you here?
[16:46] <Seeker`> runtime: I suspect the Java client was being abused
[16:46] <Seeker`> if there are a lot of people connecting from it causing problems it would be easier to ban Java Users
[17:18] <hwilde> hey can you approve ubottu factoid   !pastebinit
[17:18] <Seeker`> !pastebinit
[17:19] <Seeker`> hwilde: try !info pastebinit
[17:20] <hwilde> but it is so cool
[17:20] <hwilde> doesn't it deserve a factoid
[17:20] <Seeker`> there is already a factoid that provides that info
[17:20] <Seeker`> !info pastebinit
[17:20] <hwilde> that doesn't tell people   sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:20] <hwilde> and pastebinit -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:21] <hwilde> and fyi the man page for pastebinit is incorrect
[17:21] <hwilde>        -f [filename] (or piped data)
[17:21] <hwilde> it is -i for input file
[17:21] <hwilde>        -f [format of paste]
[17:22] <bazhang> hwilde, let the elder ones discuss it first :)
[17:22] <Seeker`> hwilde: that is something that should be reported as a bug in launchpad
[17:22] <Seeker`> we dont deal with actual code here
[17:23] <hwilde> ok but people are asked to pastebin a lot
[17:23] <hwilde> could make it a bit easier to get that info
[17:23] <bazhang> true, but factoids are not approved right away
[17:23] <bazhang> oops
[17:24] <Seeker`> too slow
[17:24] <bazhang> true :)
[17:27] <ompaul> !troll
[17:27] <ompaul> !search java
[17:27] <ompaul> !search proxy
[17:27] <ompaul> !search tor
[17:28] <ompaul> !tor
[17:28] <ompaul> !proxies
[17:28] <ompaul> !TOR
[17:29] <ompaul> !no tor is Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as TOR, or java clients due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloak
[17:29]  * ompaul smacks ubot5
[18:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Someone keep an eye on bond in ubuntu...  I need to go
[19:31] <ompaul> jimmy_birer is not coming back any time soon
[20:16] <Myrtti> ho-hum.
[20:16] <Myrtti> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/09/13/funny-pictures-stuff-hoomin-stuff/
[20:19] <ompaul> I can has ban avoider
[20:20] <jdong> hmm is it sad I just wrote a libnotify-over-ssh system for getting pings to me using berkeley sockets and pipes?
[20:25] <ompaul> jdong, 70% said you what? the other 30% said certainly
[20:25] <ompaul> Nitsuga, how can we help you?
[20:25] <ompaul> srinux, how can we help you?
[20:25] <Nitsuga> sorry i'm going out
[20:26] <ompaul> srinux, how can we help you?
[20:27] <ompaul> srinux, how can we help you? if there is nothing to talk about please check the topic thanks
[20:28] <srinux> I want to have cloak that says ubuntu
[20:28] <Myrtti> !member | srinux
[20:29] <srinux> ok
[20:29] <Myrtti> that's the first step
[20:29] <Myrtti> are you Ubuntu member yet?
[20:30] <srinux> I use ubuntu:D
[20:30] <Myrtti> please read that link first
[20:30] <Myrtti> is there anything else we can do for you?
[20:31] <srinux> I speak slightly English
[20:31] <srinux> :(
[20:31] <Myrtti> just using ubuntu is not enough for you to get a cloak that says ubuntu. you need to become Ubuntu member first.
[20:32] <srinux> ok
[20:32] <Myrtti> how to become a member is explained in the link ubottu gave you
[20:32] <Myrtti> consider participating in your local Ubuntu user group
[20:32] <srinux> I see it
[20:32] <Myrtti> they will most certainly tell you how you can get more involved
[20:33] <srinux> Then I return
[20:35] <ompaul> jdong, you said nothing about the percentages, I am mostly (82.341%) surprised
[20:35] <jdong> ompaul: lol
[20:35] <ompaul> and that is a lot of surprise
[20:35] <jdong> ompaul: I was tired of sissy ping scripts
[20:35] <ompaul> jdong, hahahahahahahahahaah
[20:35] <ompaul> you nutter
[20:35] <jdong> ompaul: this is better, I can locally ACK pings at any number of SSH-attached stations
[20:35] <ompaul> jdong, I should give you some problems I face
[20:35] <ompaul> but you really don't want them
[20:35] <ompaul> :)
[20:35] <jdong> :D
[20:37] <ompaul> jdong, in the beginning there was a network where at least four different people wrote rules for reasons we could never quite fathom
[20:37] <ompaul> jdong, there is still this network but people are not sure as to what is going on
[20:37] <ompaul> including me
[20:37] <ompaul> there are packets here that should be there and packets there that should be here
[20:37] <ompaul> its all packets if you ask me
[20:38] <jdong> lol
[20:51] <ompaul> Myrtti, jdong just the type of thing we need to encourage http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/funny-pictures-cat-shows-potential-by-blaming-things-on-the-dog.jpg
[20:52] <jdong> ompaul: :)
[20:59] <ompaul> jdong, put say something like ohh I don't know gimp.org into this http://recursive.iana.org/
[20:59]  * ompaul is evil
[21:05]  * Flannel has none of that thar blogs.
[21:05] <Myrtti> Pici: our hope is in you
[21:06] <Myrtti> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ultamatix&diff=238159296&oldid=238129382
[21:15] <nickrud> jussi01, what, you have porn on a watch list ? :)
[21:15] <jussi01> nickrud: no, just luck...
[21:16] <nickrud> doesn't take much luck these days in #ubuntu, sadly
[21:17]  * Myrtti blinks
[21:17] <jussi01> Myrtti: ?
[21:17] <Myrtti> oh, right
[21:18] <nickrud> been out of touch for a while. Any news on council memberships?
[21:19] <jussi01> nickrud: go ask the council members..
[21:19] <ikonia> not seen anything on the lists
[21:19] <PriceChild> We're on it.
[21:19] <ikonia> now thats a quick response !
[21:19]  * Myrtti huggles PriceChild 
[21:20] <nickrud> oh, I'm sure you're on it, just wanted to be sure I hadn't missed what you'd been on ;)
[21:20] <PriceChild> nope nothing of interest atm
[21:20]  * nickrud pseudo-votes for all of the above
[21:23] <Flannel> nickrud: trying to use sudo to vote doesn't help.
[21:24] <nickrud> especially since I don't have sudo powers there
[21:26]  * jussi01 thought it was the community council that voted...
[21:26] <nickrud> don't really care how, just hope soon :)
[21:28] <PriceChild> jussi01: they'll probably put it to a vote between ubuntu-irc, but they could just choose.
[21:29] <jussi01> PriceChild: ahh, ok. I read the wiki and understood they would do it
[22:36] <soundray> Could you do something about eskdarkman spamming #u please
[22:54] <Myrtti> done
[22:57] <jussi01> why do people who say: I do such and such <$lazy|bad thing> all the time and it hasnt broken my install... irk me so much?
[22:58] <Myrtti> WHAT THE HELL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Ubuntu
[22:59] <Myrtti> EEEEEEKKK
[23:00] <Myrtti> NOOOO
[23:00] <Flannel> Dude!!! It includes an ODF converter! since... OOo can't do ... that... or... something.
[23:00] <jussi01> ROFL
[23:00] <jussi01> thats just wrong
[23:01] <Flannel> Super Ubuntu is just like Ultimte Edition.
[23:01] <jdong> Flannel: you know, if you really don't like it, report it to the AAC/MPEG consortium
[23:01] <Myrtti> nooooooooooooooouuuuhhh
[23:01] <ikonia> what a pointless project
[23:01] <jdong> you can get it DMCA'ed :)
[23:01] <jdong> *cough* did I say that?
[23:01] <Myrtti> I didn't hear a thing
[23:01] <jdong> me neither.
[23:02] <jdong> oh yeah, it uses the word Ubuntu without trademark approval too
[23:02] <ikonia> hacktolive - I've seen that site before
[23:02] <ikonia> it was a painful guy in here
[23:03] <ikonia> can't think of his name
[23:17] <ompaul> did you ever get the idea you were being trolled
[23:17] <ompaul> did you
[23:18] <ompaul> hmm
[23:18]  * ompaul retreats behind the couch
[23:29] <ompaul> Myrtti, attack facebook with a big stick :)
[23:31] <Myrtti> hihi
[23:33]  * Nafallo can attack facebook quite literally ;-)
[23:34] <Nafallo> I know where they London equipment lives :-)
[23:34] <Nafallo> s/y/ir/