[00:22] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #269627 in samba (main) "force group breaks share" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269627
[00:38] <LinuxGhost> what is easy steps to install LAMP on ubuntu 8.04?
[00:39] <ScottK-laptop> LinuxGhost: Have you installed Ubuntu Server already?
[00:40] <LinuxGhost> maybe not
[00:40] <LinuxGhost> just mysql, apache, php
[00:40] <ScottK-laptop> How did you do the installation?
[00:40] <LinuxGhost> but with some troubles
[00:40] <ScottK-laptop> If you do a server install you get LAMP as a choice.
[00:41] <LinuxGhost> many steps foun in the internet= google
[00:41] <LinuxGhost> now i know apache2 and php is fully and correctly installed
[00:41] <LinuxGhost> all tested
[00:41] <ScottK-laptop> Try sudo tasksel and then select lamp and see if that helps.
[00:42] <LinuxGhost> tasksel do what?
[00:42] <LinuxGhost> installation?
[00:43] <LinuxGhost> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies
[00:44] <ScottK-laptop> tasksel gives you the option to install a set of packages together.  The certified lamp config is one of them.
[00:44] <ScottK-laptop> LinuxGhost: Generally we have very good documentation on help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com.  I'd suggest trying there first.
[00:45] <LinuxGhost> ok.thanks
[00:48] <LinuxGhost> MY trouble beggins where ask for password
[00:48] <LinuxGhost>  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[00:49]  * ScottK-laptop isn't a mysql guy, sorry.
[00:49] <LinuxGhost>  mysql -u root
[00:49] <LinuxGhost> ERROR 2002 (HY000):
[00:54] <ScottK-laptop> sudo mysql
[00:54] <ScottK-laptop> ?
[00:54] <ScottK-laptop> I've no idea actually.
[01:42] <LinuxGhost> People, why the Directory /var/www is not writable to php files????
[03:53] <remote> hey
[03:53] <remote> i'm not sure of the correct procedure to re-install a package
[03:53] <remote> i'm concerned because i want to re-install openssh without loosing connectivity to the server
[03:57] <remote> hi dashnu
[03:57] <dashnu> hey
[03:58] <remote> i'm wanting to re-install openssh-server without loosing connectivity, would you know the correct procedure to do so?
[03:59] <dashnu> why do you need to reinstall it ?
[03:59] <remote> it's compromised
[03:59] <ScottK-laptop> What exactly do you mean by compromised?
[03:59] <dashnu> ...
[04:00] <remote> it's *ucked
[04:00] <dashnu> the install is not "compromised"
[04:00] <remote> trust me, it's not usable
[04:00] <remote> ok anyways
[04:00] <remote> i just want to re-install it
[04:00] <ScottK-laptop> OK.  Compromised generally means something else.
[04:00] <remote> the installed sshd is *not* the ubuntu packaged sshd
[04:01] <ScottK-laptop> How was it installed?
[04:01] <dashnu> ok
[04:01] <remote> well
[04:01] <remote> i have no idea
[04:01] <remote> but it's not the ubuntu ssh
[04:01] <dashnu> ha!
[04:01] <dashnu> wow
[04:01] <remote> SSH-2.0-SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.7p1
[04:01] <remote> that's the banned
[04:01] <remote> and that the md5sum: a98008abb8c9e2cccbb4a091db93ed01  /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:01] <remote> s/banned/banner
[04:02] <remote> that's one of its PIDs
[04:02] <remote> root      4916  0.0  0.0   3212   816 ?        Ss   Jul27   0:51 ?ii?��ÿ??�?޷I????����2޷?
[04:02] <remote> now i hope you're convinced too ;-)
[04:02] <remote> how can i re-install the package openssh-server without loosing connectivity?
[04:03] <dashnu> just remove it and reinstall it
[04:03] <remote> i don't mind loosing the shell but want to be able to connect back as the service is restarted to the newly installed one
[04:03] <remote> i'm afraid uninstalling it will run /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[04:03] <remote> won't it?
[04:03] <dashnu> Im a gentoo server guy... it doesnt ingentoo
[04:04] <dashnu> do apt-get remove ssh && apt-get install sshd
[04:04] <dashnu> or similar
[04:04] <dashnu> then restart the daemon
[04:05] <dashnu> should work fine
[04:07] <remote> alright
[04:07] <remote> i will try that
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> remote,
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> remote, `sudo apt-get --purge remove openssh-server` and `sudo apt-get install openssh-server`
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> trick is, the running sshd wont be stopped by either, so you'll need to logout (or manually kill) the old ssh's
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> perhaps run the remove+install in screen, so even if you get disconnected, the install happens ...
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> perhaps even 'install -y'
[04:12] <remote> i did the install, remove and did not lose the shell
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> sounds correct and good.
[04:14] <remote> now i have : f5e43bdf79235f04cfe09b2eb0e87a00  /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:14] <remote> but still, the openssh processes are behaving weirdly
[04:14] <remote> one didn't die
[04:14] <remote> root      4916  0.0  0.0   3212   816 ?        Ss   Jul27   0:51 ?ii?��ÿ??�?޷I????����2޷?
[04:14] <remote> and this is the new one:
[04:14] <remote> root     14522  0.0  0.1   3388  1788 ?        S    22:13   0:00 ?ii?��ÿ??�?޷I????����2޷?
[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> remote, the one your connected through probably
[04:14] <remote> i did disconnect and reconnect
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> looks like you'll need more then a reinstall to get un-rooted.
[04:16] <remote> this is weird
[04:16] <remote> it should do the trick
[04:16] <remote> i did purge now
[04:17] <remote> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[04:17] <remote> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[04:17] <remote>  * Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd
[04:17] <remote> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[04:17] <remote> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[04:17] <remote>    ...done.
[04:17] <remote> that's from an init.d/ssh restart
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats in /etc/ssh/ ? any keys?
[04:18] <remote> nope ssh_config   sshd_config
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> explains why it cant find the host key(s)
[04:19] <remote> wait now i have
[04:19] <remote> root@softlayer2:~# ls /etc/ssh/
[04:19] <remote> blacklist.DSA-1024  blacklist.RSA-2048  moduli  ssh_config  sshd_config
[04:19] <remote> this just appeared
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> ... 'just appeared'? o_0
[04:19] <remote> arf
[04:19] <remote> yes
[04:19] <remote> anyways i killed the wrong process and have no longer access to the server
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> :\
[04:24] <remote> Kamping_Kaiser: something like that
[04:24] <remote> :-)
[04:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> :]
[04:53] <EyebeKlap> Hello, I'm kind of new here and I'm not sure whether this is the correct channel for my question....   Can Ubuntu 8.04 server be run simultaneously with Ubuntu 8.04 desktop? ie. run the terminal server in the background while somebody uses the host computer in Ubuntu 8.04 desktop GUI mode?
[04:55] <ScottK-laptop> EyebeKlap: Sort of.  You can run the server packages on a desktop install, but you have to either run the server kernel or the desktop one.
[04:55] <ScottK-laptop> For almost all purposes, that amounts to yes.
[04:58] <EyebeKlap> I know you can demo ubuntu in windows - is there a way to set it up like that? running desktop as the main kernel then sending any network enquiries aimed at the server to a 'second level' where the server kernel is running/emulated or vica-versa?
[04:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> why are you /actually/ trying to do?
[04:59] <Gun_Smoke> ScottK-laptop, what draw back would there be using the desktop kernel instead of the server kernel?
[05:00] <ScottK-laptop> None you'd be likely to notice.
[05:00] <ScottK-laptop> EyebeKlap: No.
[05:01] <ScottK-laptop> If the server is under heavy enough usage for the server kernel to matter, you're likely not also running it as a desktop.
[05:01] <EyebeKlap> I am trying to get my ubuntu desktop install to function as a terminal server for other computers while still being able to use it for desktop applications freely
[05:02] <ScottK-laptop> Ah.  I missed the terminal server bit earlier.  Sorry.
[05:02] <ScottK-laptop> You want to look into ltsp.
[05:02]  * ScottK-laptop doesn't know much about it.
[05:03] <EyebeKlap> ltsp? I sorry but as far as ubuntu is concerned, I am somewhat of a novice
[05:04] <Gun_Smoke> Linux Terminal Server Project
[05:04] <Gun_Smoke> http://www.ltsp.org/
[05:04] <EyebeKlap> oh, ok. thank-you :)
[05:04] <ScottK-laptop> It's available as an Ubuntu package.
[05:05] <Gun_Smoke> EyebeKlap, another one for you. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[05:07] <remote> hah!
[05:07] <remote> it seems like i killed the right process
[05:08] <remote> http://rafb.net/p/XwKeTz33.html
[05:09] <remote> why would the server close the connection like this?
[06:38] <Gun_Smoke> I don't understand what I am doing wrong with vsfpd .  I have it set up half way correct.  I am able to move files to /home/ftp as root, and then able to download files.. But I can not upload files.  I have write_enable=yes anon_upload_enable=yes anon_mkdir_enable=yes but still get the error 550
[06:48] <remote> Gun_Smoke: what's in the log file?
[06:51] <Gun_Smoke> remote, a ton of this Sat Sep 13 00:45:56 2008 [pid 22415] [ftp] FAIL UPLOAD: Client "10.0.1.3", "/Uploads/file
[06:55] <remote> what's the complete error?
[06:55] <remote> it seems to want to upload to /Uploads/file ...
[06:56] <Gun_Smoke> first I can't mkdir MKD Program
[06:56] <Gun_Smoke> 550 Create directory operation failed.
[06:57] <remote> what's the error in the log file?
[06:57] <Gun_Smoke> Sat Sep 13 01:56:42 2008 [pid 25737] [ftp] FAIL MKDIR: Client "10.0.1.3", "/Program"
[06:58] <Gun_Smoke> that's all of it.
[06:58] <remote> i'm wodering if "/Program" refers to /home/ftp/Program or /Program
[06:59] <Gun_Smoke> I was attempting to mkdir /Program in /home/ftp/   I'm using gFTP at the moment.
[07:02] <remote> and can you make this directory as the ftp user, from a shell?
[07:02] <remote> or whatever user is running the ftp daemon
[07:03] <Gun_Smoke> I get a similar error if I simple try to upload a file to a current directory in /home/ftp/Uploads http://pastebin.com/d6660dab6
[07:03] <Gun_Smoke> No,  I have to be root on the target machine.
[07:04] <remote> does the ftp daemon runs as root?
[07:05] <Gun_Smoke> I believe so.
[07:06] <remote> ps uxa | grep vsfpd
[07:06] <remote> as what user is it running?
[07:06] <Gun_Smoke> root
[07:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. ftp isnt really something you want to run as root
[07:09] <remote> it runs as root by default
[07:09] <Gun_Smoke> That what I thought..
[07:10] <remote> to be honest i'm not sure, i'm receiving the same error with the same configuration keys enabled
[07:10] <remote> ah
[07:11] <remote> did you uncomment #write_enable=YES
[07:11] <Gun_Smoke> yes
[07:19] <remote> i don't know what to say
[07:19] <remote> try to grab a config that's known to work as you want
[07:19] <remote> you can probably find one online
[07:19] <Gun_Smoke> I just tried modifying the permissions of /home/ftp/ to drwxrwxrwx just to see.. and now 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root
[07:20] <Gun_Smoke> I also chown of /home/ftp/ from root to a user
[10:17] <TuxCrafter> hello everybody
[10:18] <TuxCrafter> i just noticed a kind of alarming issue on my system
[10:18] <TuxCrafter> apt-get install libpam-umask
[10:18] <TuxCrafter> if i want to do that ^ it wants to remove almost all my system
[10:19] <TuxCrafter> http://pastebin.ca/1201680
[10:20] <TuxCrafter> here is the needed information
[10:20] <TuxCrafter> i wanted to set a umask rule with pam.d/ for specified users
[10:28] <Deeps> You are about to do something potentially harmful.
[10:28] <Deeps> To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
[10:28] <Deeps> nice
[10:32] <TuxCrafter> i have the idea that libpam-umask conflicts with libpam-modules
[10:32] <TuxCrafter> but i wanted the documentation of the libpam-umask
[10:33] <TuxCrafter> dont worry i am nog going to install the package :-p
[10:34] <TuxCrafter> also curious why it would be harmful if you run all users with umask 077 what would go wrong in theory ?
[10:35]  * TuxCrafter had a crashed test server tonight with umask 0007 with for all users, still investigating the issue, seems spamc crashed the system
[12:03] <`6og> TuxCrafter, the reason libpam-umask is "bad" is because its not part of the standard pam
[12:03] <`6og> theres a bug open about it
[12:04] <TuxCrafter> `6og: the strange thing is that is is working without the package ..
[12:05] <`6og> TuxCrafter, what do you mean?
[12:05] <TuxCrafter> `6og: echo 'session optional        pam_umask.so umask=077' | sudo tee -a /etc/pam.d/common-session
[12:05] <TuxCrafter> execute that command restart your system
[12:06] <TuxCrafter> and you have umask 0077
[12:06] <TuxCrafter> if you have no other overwriting configs
[12:06] <TuxCrafter> without the libpam-umask package installed
[12:06] <`6og> TuxCrafter, exactly. because its now part of libpam-modules
[12:07] <TuxCrafter> dpkg -S pam_umask.so
[12:07] <TuxCrafter> libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_umask.so
[12:07] <TuxCrafter> `6og: so the libpam-umask should be removed form the repo as soon as possible but the documentation must be added to libpam-modules
[12:08] <`6og> TuxCrafter, correct.
[12:08] <`6og> TuxCrafter, there is a bug open about it.
[12:08] <TuxCrafter> do you have the link?
[12:08] <TuxCrafter> i can add some comments
[12:09] <TuxCrafter> these bugs waste time of lots of people
[12:09] <TuxCrafter> in theory a linux system should run fine with umask 0077 correct?
[12:10] <`6og> TuxCrafter, dont have a link, but search launchpad for it
[12:11] <`6og> you can probably search /ubuntu/+source/libpam-modules/+bugs directly
[12:18] <TuxCrafter> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam-umask/+bug/199141
[12:18] <TuxCrafter> done
[12:18] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 199141 in pam-umask "seems to be broken, requires to remove almost all installed packages" [Undecided,Invalid]
[12:18]  * TuxCrafter getting some food
[12:55]  * TuxCrafter leaving got to reboot and do some other work, thanks for he feedback
[15:17] <darksifer> hi which nvdia driver is best for ubuntu
[15:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> doesnt really sound like a questionf ro -server
[15:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> *for
[15:20] <darksifer> sorry
[16:37] <Moc> Im reading from docs that ubuntu is subseptible to have it network interface switch even when the mac is specified in the interfaces ?
[16:38] <Nafallo> when the mac is specified where?
[16:38] <Moc> in the interfaces file
[16:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> Moc, which docs?
[16:39] <Moc> man page
[16:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> which?
[16:39] <Nafallo> that's because it's the wrong place for that magic.
[16:39] <Moc> interfaces man page
[16:39] <Nafallo> that magic lives in udev
[16:40] <Moc> I know on CentOS, if I specified the mac in the ifcfg-eth0 file, it will grab it correctly
[16:40] <Nafallo> well now... Ubuntu Server is not CentOS, and most of us consider that a feature.
[16:41] <Nafallo> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[16:42] <Moc> ok so I guess the 2004 doc is out of date
[16:43] <Moc> I found it pretty lame that I had to run sh scripts to get the mapping correctly
[16:43] <Nafallo> feel free to file a bug about it :-)
[16:48] <Moc> I got burned of submiting bug report that arnt process for months, and only reponse I get is when a new release come out and maintainer ask if bug is still present... then you check and say it still is... and again no reply for months ... Im personally tired of filing them
[16:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> pretty sure ifconfig/ifup predates udev, probably the man page does too
[16:49] <Moc> probably
[16:49] <Nafallo> Kamping_Kaiser: we didn't have udev in Warty, no :-)
[16:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> Nafallo, :)
[19:15] <keithclark> Maybe this is a question best asked of the server crowd.  I don't seem to have any luck setting up Samba.  I can see the windows XP machine, but the XP machine cannot see the Ubuntu machine.  And, even though I can see the XP machine, I cannot see any of the shared directories on it.
[20:15] <sommer> foolano: what's up, I noticed that the esofttool and ebox-software packages are only for hardy?  I grabbed the source and they build fine on intrepid... just fyi
[20:15] <sommer> foolano: will the ebox-software module be able to manage all packages in the future?
[20:25] <keithclark> Maybe this is a question best asked of the server crowd.  I don't seem to have any luck setting up Samba.  I can see the windows XP machine, but the XP machine cannot see the Ubuntu machine.  And, even though I can see the XP machine, I cannot see any of the shared directories on it.
[22:51] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #269954 in openssh (main) "ssh -X breaks Xauthority on NFS mounted home dir" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269954