[00:00] JontheEchidna: yes [00:00] * apachelogger is quite exhausted [00:00] funfun [00:01] so is our marketing strategy still screenie? [00:03] yes [00:03] we didn't have enough people around to get beyond that :P [00:06] stdin: I won't block on this, but please ask upstream to explicitly say the license for /kabckeyselectorbase.ui and /exportkeysbase.ui in their next release. [00:06] neversfelde: what exactly is lensfun? [00:07] JontheEchidna: apparently I did upload kdeedu to intrepid? ;-) [00:07] apachelogger: yus [00:07] ok, we need a batscript for that [00:08] * apachelogger thinks stuff might be missing from our kexi-kde4 package [00:08] stdin: That's it based on manual review of the source. I'm going to build it now. [00:09] ScottK-laptop: I am not sure one should license ui files [00:09] they aren't real source after all [00:09] Hmmm. Well he lists an author for them. [00:10] If it has an author, it needs a license I think [00:10] stdin: Perhaps just drop them from debian/copyright then. [00:11] same for /kabckeyselectorbase.ui too? [00:11] ScottK-laptop: Author or Copyright? [00:12] Don't explictly list them in debian/copyright at all. [00:12] Yes. [00:13] Installing the build-dep in my chroot: "628MB of additional disk space will be used" [00:15] apachelogger: everyone eh? [00:16] vorian: everyone does the blog promo ... how is the amd64 cd coming along? [00:16] apachelogger: good [00:18] * apachelogger should use cached imap [00:18] brb [00:18] kio_imap is way too slow [00:18] apachelogger: can has promo meeting minutes? [00:18] JontheEchidna: -devel [00:20] bug 269428 got a lazy reporter [00:20] Launchpad bug 269428 in kopete "Too large window to select kmail contact equivalent to kopete contact" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269428 [00:20] "I don't attach screenshots because they have personal information (name, photo and email) form other people, but if it's necesary, I can edit the images first and load them." [00:20] I am so going to ask for a screenshot :P [00:20] stdin: It FTBFS for me. It does need kdepim-dev as a build-dep. [00:21] stdin: make[3]: *** [CMakeFiles/kopete_cryptography.dir/cryptographyplugin.o] Error 1 [00:21] it used to only need kdepim, I guess it changed in the releases since I last packaged [00:26] OK, well that FTBFS is after I added kdepim-dev [00:35] ScottK-laptop: apparently it needs boost: /usr/include/kleo/decryptverifyjob.h:38:32: error: boost/shared_ptr.hpp: No such file or directory [00:36] stdin: OK. Please update the build-dep along with the other changes and upload. I'll look at that one. [00:40] ScottK-laptop: that's actually a bug in kdepim, -dev should depend on libboost-dev [00:40] Interesting. [00:43] stdin: I think you need to build-dep on it directly. [00:45] the reall error is "In file included from /tmp/buildd/kopete-cryptography-1.3.0-kde4.1.1/cryptographyplugin.cpp:46: /usr/include/kleo/decryptverifyjob.h:38:32: error: boost/shared_ptr.hpp: No such file or directory", and decryptverifyjob.h is from kdepim-dev [00:45] OK. I'll buy that. [00:45] and kdepim build-deps on libboost-dev too, so the -dev should have it [00:46] Hmmm. None of the other -dev packages are there. [00:46] ScottK-laptop: ksudoku moved from individual package to kdegames, would I file a binary + source removal or just source? [00:46] apachelogger: Just source after you've uploaded the new kdegames. [00:46] well, it is in games since first KDE 4 upload ;-) [00:47] builds ok with libboost-dev, uploaded to revu [00:48] OK. [00:48] apachelogger: What do you think about adding all the -dev build-dep for kdepim to kdepim-dev? [00:50] ScottK-laptop: Very sensible IMHO. [00:51] apachelogger: OK. I'll do that next. [00:51] that'd mean both libboost-dev and libgpgme11-dev can be removed from kopete-cryptography build-deps after [00:52] Yep. [00:52] apachelogger: I advocated. Your turn: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kopete-cryptography [00:52] meh, I wanted to catch up on bug mails :P [00:53] NCommander: when does REVU get it's oxygen icons? [00:53] Any other kdepim changes lying around? [00:54] ScottK: you should query LP for bugs with patches [00:54] I am. [00:54] otherwise kdepim is a big black whole to me :P [00:55] at least it spirals [00:56] oh, apachelogger, about your kubuntu-bugs request. seeing as it's had no response try posting it on launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com [00:56] I am not subscribed there. [00:56] stdin: could you please? :) [00:56] yeah, sure [00:57] what is it? a ML request? [00:58] Hobbsee: request that an LP admin get in contact with the person that owns it, to ask if they could let us use it [00:58] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/44672 [00:59] ahhh [01:02] apachelogger: sent [01:07] apachelogger: You just changed the kde4bindings bug I just 'fixed' in my last upload to Invalid. Do I need to unfix it? [01:08] ScottK-laptop: kdebindings was invalid, kde4bindings seems just right [01:08] stdin: thank you [01:10] apachelogger: Ah. OK. Thaks. [01:10] Thanks [01:10] hm [01:10] stdin: What is the point of the get-orig-source target? [01:10] apachelogger: ScottK-laptop asked me to add it because the tarball is a .bz2 [01:11] hm [01:11] uscan says: [01:11] -- Successfully downloaded updated package kopete-cryptography-1.3.0-kde4.1.1.tar.bz2 [01:11] and symlinked kopete-cryptography_1.3.0-kde4.1.1.orig.tar.bz2 to it [01:11] Which makes the get-orig-source target pretty obsolete IMHO. [01:11] apachelogger: But you still need to turn it into a tar.gz [01:11] hm [01:12] true [01:12] * apachelogger misread ;-) [01:14] JontheEchidna: did you poke upstream with the gtk-qt-engine issues? [01:14] * JontheEchidna can't find a polite way to says "your code is buggy" [01:15] JontheEchidna: "The ubersized ubuntu community found some glitches in gtk-qt-engine which might be of interst for you" [01:16] well, he did subscribe himself to a number of the bugs [01:16] apachelogger: You're missing a K. [01:16] "Fix your damn code, dawg!" :p [01:16] so I think he's aware of the issues [01:16] and he has been committing translation updates [01:16] I just think real life (tm) happened [01:17] I think reducing complex stuff to gtk is just not much fun :P [01:19] JontheEchidna: bug 268864 ;-) [01:19] Launchpad bug 268864 in amarok "Play/Pause button does not toggle between pause and play icon when pushed" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268864 [01:19] * apachelogger is wondering if there is a bug about Amarok not calling the library library but collection [01:20] hum, weak [01:21] stdin: -crypto should really be using the defaut key from kmail :P [01:23] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot107.png which keys do you think is it fetching? [01:25] stdin: 3 lines in copyright exceed 80 characters [01:26] + DEBIAN_DIR := $(shell echo ${MAKEFILE_LIST} | awk '{print $$1}' | xargs dirname ) |||| the shell experession starts without inital whitespace but ends with one [01:26] stdin: uploading [01:26] apachelogger: BTW, that lintian test is getting dropped in the next lintian update. I wouldn't worry too much (the copyright one_. [01:26] ScottK-laptop: it is more about me and my terminal size ;-) [01:27] luckily I was in a mood for katering [01:27] OK. [01:28] apachelogger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic#ChangingOrigTarball is where that line is from [01:28] that is no excuse for bad source formatting! [01:28] when the guide is wrong, then it is an excuse ;) [01:28] ScottK-laptop: I am really wondering why openid works with REVU. [01:30] ScottK-laptop: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=plasmoid-cpuload [01:32] stdin: It's a wiki. [01:33] oh, nice FFe he got there :D [01:37] Right, I'll review it after the FFe. [01:38] I'd rather wait for Riddell to say he wants it. [01:38] ScottK-laptop: Riddell wants all the plasmoid we can get I think [01:38] OK. [01:39] Ack'ed. Needs two though. [01:45] This plasmoids is totally KDE 3. [01:56] evening [01:56] hi jjesse [01:56] how ar eyou? [01:57] good [01:57] just watching the OSU game [01:57] :/ [01:57] :) [01:57] :( [01:57] i hope OSU looses ;) [01:57] too bad for your guys [01:58] after embarsement of michigan [01:58] how many freakin fumbles can they give up? [01:58] haha [01:58] HAHA [01:58] HAHAHAHA [01:58] ok, better now [01:58] and to NotreDame? [01:58] sheesh [01:58] that's almost like Apalachian State [01:59] yeah almost [01:59] they had some Rudy today though [02:00] yeah they did [02:00] norte dame played tough [02:00] if osu loses, it will be 10 years before the Big 10 gets any cred back [02:01] at least [02:01] we suck lately [02:01] i just came from SEC country and they mock the big ten all the time [02:01] :( [02:02] I grew up in SEC country [02:02] i always hated the Big 10 [02:02] why? [02:03] don't know [02:03] :) [02:03] it's what everyone else was doing [02:03] you know, Arkansas hated Michigan ( basketball ) [02:04] that's about it really [02:04] oh, the big 8 was a hated conference too [02:04] those darn Tigers [02:05] osu is doing much better than i thought they would to start off [02:05] agreed [02:47] oooo new grub editor tool in system settings [02:47] that's pretty cool [02:56] what's the difference between Printing and system-config-printer kde? [02:56] sheminie [02:56] i hate this game [02:57] no longer watching not going very well? [02:59] no [02:59] every time there is a break through play, there seems to be a magical penalty [03:00] it's magic [03:24] Cool. [03:24] Just did hibernate/resume in the middle of a kdepim testbuild and it just keeps going ... [03:25] cool [03:59] NCommander: You see my kde4bindings/hppa pain? [04:01] ScottK: no [04:01] * NCommander just woke up [04:01] NCommander: OK. See the scrollback. lpia is fixed, hppa is not. Thanks. [04:01] ScottK: build log? [04:02] NCommander: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17598822/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-hppa.kde4bindings_4:4.1.1-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [04:03] Apparently it still tried to compile the mono stuff even without the build-deps [04:04] It doesn't actually try to compile, just execute the install rules [04:04] Hrm [04:05] YOu didn't add !hppa to the .NET packages [04:05] Architecture: any :-P [04:05] Urgh. I didn't [04:05] SHould be any [!hppa] [04:06] That's what I have here. [04:07] This is what happens when you package when tired [04:08] OK. I'm tired and you just woke up. Care to roll me a debdiff to fix it. [04:09] :-P [04:12] * ScottK is not kidding. [04:14] I know [04:14] Still :-P [04:15] In any case, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17596075/kde4bindings_4%3A4.1.1-0ubuntu2_4%3A4.1.1-0ubuntu3.diff.gz seems to be plenty full of [!hppa] to me. [04:16] ScottK: yeah, apt-get soure grabbed 0ubuntu2 instead of 3 so I fail [04:17] * NCommander needs to trackdown a HPPA machine someone will help me hack on [04:17] NCommander: Do a test package with [!lpia] and throw it at a ppa. [04:22] ScottK: Well, it seems I was wrong about any !hppa [04:22] OK. [04:23] I'm going to test two things, then I'll have a patch for you [04:23] OK. [04:24] ScottK: I'll also have ktorrent for you in a few minutes [04:25] NCommander: I'm just about dead here. It may have to wait. [04:26] * NCommander shoves a coffee funnel down scott's throat [04:26] LIVE DAMN IT === mzungu_ is now known as mzungu === gnomefreak is now known as thunderstruck === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [11:50] * NCommander pokes Riddell [11:59] * apachelogger pokes NCommander [12:01] * NCommander explodes [12:29] * apachelogger hates it when people remove the file extensions -.- [12:40] apachelogger: ew [12:40] oh right [12:40] NCommander: when is REVU getting oxygen icons? ;-) [12:40] smarter: did you apply for motu yet? [12:40] apachelogger: talk to RainCT [12:41] * apachelogger is too shy :S [12:54] \sh: ping [13:07] haha [13:07] apachelogger: you shy? [13:07] yus :S [13:07] bah [13:07] though [13:07] * knome doesn't agree apachelogger being shy [13:07] NCommander: you could send RainCT in here [13:08] k [13:08] what should one ask from him? [13:08] oxygen icons for REVU [13:08] * apachelogger would love to see oxygen on REVU :) [13:08] what is revu? [13:09] knome: package reviewing system thing - http://revu.ubuntuwire.com [13:10] bug 79386 [13:10] Launchpad bug 79386 in kdenetwork "kio rdp needs documentation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79386 [13:10] I am wondering how he would access that documentation [13:11] apachelogger, i can ask him :P [13:11] knome: I am not going to stop you :P AFAIK NCommander already sent him a patch [13:11] k [13:12] done [13:12] you want me to paste you that launchpad url as well? [13:13] *him [13:15] knome: probably not :P [13:15] k [13:15] i said that he could join #kubuntu-devel and ask you if he needs more info :P === akonadi is now known as nihui [13:16] knome: thx [13:16] np [13:17] i'm not afraid of speaking to people :P [13:17] apachelogger: I didn't send him a patch, he told me he was going to add them on his own I thought [13:18] I purged qt4-qtconfig and when i reinstalled it i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/46840/ [13:18] okay [13:18] the system used to be hardy, upgraded to intrepid [13:19] is there any way to search by package version or something? i'd be curious to see if the are any hardy ppa packages left [13:19] me@apoc { ~ }$ apt-cache show qt4-qtconfig | grep Ver [13:19] Version: 4.4.1-0ubuntu2 [13:19] no good [13:19] should be 1ubuntu i think [13:19] holy [13:19] barracuda [13:19] batman! [13:21] gribelu: report a bug [13:21] Hi [13:23] knome, NCommander, apachelogger: ping [13:23] RainCT: heya [13:23] hello RainCT [13:23] RainCT: so, how about making REVU use oxygen icons? ;) [13:23] (s/ping/pong) [13:23] apachelogger: ok.. trying :) Not sure how to describe the bug but i'll try [13:23] uhm.. and what's the rationale for that? xD [13:24] jtechidna: *poke* we need to merge qt 4.1.1-1 from experimental [13:24] weren't we going to merge KDE too? [13:24] RainCT: it looks nice and consistent, unlike the current icons [13:24] RainCT: condition of my Kubuntu membership, you said you were using oxygen icons for comments/advocations [13:25] apachelogger: I assume we have a standing feature freeze for things such as these? [13:25] *standing feature freeze exception [13:25] jtechidna: merges mostly just change the packaging, so we won't need one ;-) [13:25] kool [13:25] otherwise we would have to wait for jr [13:26] * jtechidna hasn't merged before, should be fun :D [13:26] \o/ [13:26] qt4-x11 is a pita to merge [13:26] I did sit on on jr's last merging tut on kubuntu tutorial day [13:26] *in on [13:26] just like the most important KDE modules are [13:27] I can merge it [13:27] er wait [13:27] * NCommander runs [13:27] lol [13:27] apachelogger: agaist which package you i think i should file that bug? [13:27] why is it a pita to merge? [13:28] gribelu: qt4-x11, but make clear that this issue is caused by the kde4 ppa rather than anything official [13:28] NCommander: I don't see any reason why whe would want to change the icons to which everybody is already used to, but well.. you have commit rights :P [13:28] well, REVU is already in KDE blue ;-) [13:29] apachelogger: basically we take the debian packaging and add back all applicable changes since the last merge? [13:29] yus, oxygen would go well with the current color scheme ;-) [13:29] documenting everything, of course [13:29] NCommander: debain kde has a different traget user group, so we have to decided for every patch if it actually is useful to us [13:29] apachelogger: what does debian kde do to their qt4? [13:30] jtechidna: there are different approaches, the most common way would be to take the current debian package, and pull in the changes as documented in the changelog/KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFFERENCES file [13:30] NCommander: they patch half their KDE stack to not build recursive [13:30] becuase they can't wait for KDE to do that in 4.2 [13:31] NCommander: change them if you want, but if persia blames you that's your problem ;P [13:31] * apachelogger will send persia some cookies [13:31] persia already blames me for blue REVU [13:31] That being said, I still believe its easier on the eyes [13:31] +1 [13:31] +1 [13:32] \o/ [13:32] oh, now I know what I wanted to say at the marketing meeting [13:32] we need new colors :D [13:32] NCommander: and norsetto blames you for the font size :P (an option to select different CSS files is in progress, btw) [13:32] black and gold [13:32] RainCT: yes well, I didn't expect anyone to WANT large fonts [13:33] one could of course zoom in :) [13:33] may I suggest my plasma theme for our new color scheme? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/A+Pimp+Named+Slickback+%28for+the+contest%29?content=77640 [13:33] apachelogger: i hope it's ok https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/270114 [13:33] Launchpad bug 270114 in qt4-x11 "QT4 Intrepid packages have lower version than Hardy PPA ones" [Undecided,New] [13:33] aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh [13:33] the note pad even has spinners \o/ [13:34] jtechidna: that is so 90' [13:34] s [13:34] I made it in one day in inkscape as a joke [13:34] did that inkscape have no GTK theming? [13:34] lol [13:34] i'm using ~color scheme for my client [13:35] gribelu: btw, QT == QuickTime [13:36] yes yes [13:36] everyone knows that [13:36] not everybody in the world [13:36] why do you report a QT4 bug against Qt 4 then :P [13:37] ah so the case is a problem? hah [13:37] too much for me [13:38] someone should come up with qT [13:38] then we'll all be happy [13:40] libstrigiqtdbusclient0 [0.5.11-1ubuntu0~hardy0~ppa1 (now) -> 0.5.11-1 (intrepid)] [13:40] and another one [13:41] new bug? or just comment on the other one? [13:44] there's actualy even more of them http://paste.ubuntu.com/46851/ [13:46] so is there no way of search for packages with "hardy" in their version string? [13:46] *shrug* [13:46] gribelu: add everything to that bug report [13:56] hey devfil [13:56] * apachelogger moves out for coffee and cookies [13:56] NCommander: when I am back, I want to see shiny new icons on revu :P [13:57] hmm [13:57] coffee [13:57] not a bad idea [13:57] hi NCommander [13:57] * NCommander smacks apachelogger [13:57] hi to all [13:57] apachelogger, say hello to yer parents :P [13:57] devfil: whats your feelings on the new firefox EULA? [13:58] NCommander: I don't like firefox at all... [13:58] devfil: what do you use? [13:59] NCommander: midori (ubuntu) konqueror (kubuntu), I really like webkit [14:00] I can tell [14:00] * NCommander is considerig proposing removal of firefox with abrowser replacing it in the kubuntu seed [14:04] NCommander: written in qt there is also arora [14:10] * |gunni| keeps using firefox because of all the useful plugins === emonkey-t is now known as emonkey [14:24] apachelogger: lensfun is a library for image corrections, it can be used by digikam [15:19] hmm.. my Qt apps don't use kde's colors. If i reapply the "Apply colors to non-KDE applications" option while a Qt app is running, the colors will be used instantly though. But after i restart the app they are gone again [15:20] same goes for apps using gtk-qt [15:20] anyone else having this problem? [15:20] hi [15:20] i have two bugs in launchpad about the welcome sound [15:21] one from hardy one from intrepid [15:21] bug 270113 [15:21] Launchpad bug 270113 in kdelibs "8.10: kde4 startup sound stops" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270113 [15:21] and bug 260270 [15:21] Launchpad bug 260270 in ubuntu "KDE 4.1 welcome sound on login is stopped prematurely" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260270 [15:22] do you think these bugs are duplicate? [15:33] mcas: yes [15:33] thanks jtechidna [15:55] devfil: qwebview is at this time not completely ready for default installation [15:56] I plan on changing the konqueror backend to webkitkde once Qt 4.5 is out [15:56] neversfelde: for what version of digikam? [15:56] apachelogger: qwebview? I hope you are talking about qwebkit :) [15:57] apachelogger: I think it is 0.10 beta3 [15:57] devfil: there is no such thing as qwebkit, go read the docs :P [15:57] neversfelde: no high priority then [15:57] k [15:57] apachelogger: there is a module called qtwebkit [15:58] true [15:58] anyways, not ready in 4.4 [15:59] * devfil didn't know the existence of qwebview [16:00] devfil: it's the major widget of qtwebkit [16:00] ok [16:07] someone please try to reproduce bug 270137 [16:07] Launchpad bug 270137 in kdegames "Holes disappear in Kolf during game" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270137 [16:07] * apachelogger doesn't seem to be able to [16:07] NCommander: still no nu icons :'-( [16:07] smarter: did you apply for motu yet? [16:09] apachelogger: that's an nvidia driver issue [16:09] RENDER corruption [16:09] \o/ [16:09] I hate nvidia -.- [16:09] jtechidna: please move the bug around [16:09] or duplicate [16:09] actually I haven't seen any bug reports [16:10] lol, they still didn't fix the bug where the ball goes in the walls [16:10] nope, not an nvidia bug - I have it here on hardy with an ati [16:10] apachelogger: ^^ [16:10] * jtechidna doesn't have it on hardy with nv [16:11] *intrepid [16:11] jussi01: so it is an X issue [16:11] or maybe just closed source stuff [16:11] apachelogger: Id say so [16:11] apachelogger: ati drivers could have the bug too [16:11] maybe we should close as "don't use closed source crap" [16:12] nah [16:12] rofl [16:12] my card: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] [16:12] jussi01: using the fglrphoafhasz drivers? [16:13] Oo [16:13] * jtechidna never remembers how their spelled [16:13] to many consanants scrunched together [16:13] fglrx I think [16:13] jtechidna: yeah [16:15] jtechidna: bug 144756 [16:15] Launchpad bug 144756 in kdenetwork "proxy settings don't affect" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144756 [16:16] I consider this a bug, what do you think? [16:16] I consider that title engrish :P [16:17] I think it's more of a wishlist for KDE to directly manage the low-level proxy stuffs [16:20] jtechidna: well, think about it from a user point of view [16:21] you have one proxy setting, this setting should apply _everywhere_ [16:21]