[00:00] <LeeJunFan> rm pid, then try to start dbus again /etc/init.d/dbus start
[00:00] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: I really don't want anything restored from XP. I just need a clean installation of Kubuntu on my laptop, if my HD allows it.
[00:01] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: then I'd simply try to install kubuntu, if the HD is really damaged you won't get far.
[00:02] <Colonel_Panic> LeeJunFan: Would rebooting and starting a new session maybe fix this?
[00:02] <Colonel_Panic> BRB rebooting
[00:02] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: you could try, but if dbus think's it's already running because that pid file is there, it's going to fail again on boot.
[00:03] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: I totally understand that I should burn a new install CD without any errors and try installing it. But for now, I am looking for some utility for "Disk Checking" in Kubuntu. Something has to be there like the DOS command we used to have in Windows.
[00:05] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Something like "Scandisk" option in Windows.
[00:07] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: I found it! "sudo badblocks -s -v /dev/sda1"
[00:07] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Hats off to Kubuntu! :)
[00:09] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: cool.
[00:10] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: There were two partitions, I think so. How do I ensure that I check for all of the partitions? Right now it's running for sda1.
[00:10] <LeeJunFan> depends on how it's partitioned, 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' will list partitions
[00:11] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: all of them?
[00:12] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: I'd imagine you could just check the whole drive with badblocks /dev/sda
[00:13] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: As I told you earlier that I tried creating a boot/swap partition while I was trying to install Kubuntu, but the installation did not succeed. So I am not sure, if those partitions need to be scanned too.
[00:13] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: considering you don't seem to have a bootsector that's readable that's a good idea anyway, because checking individual partitions will not check the part of your HD which holds the bootsector.
[00:13] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Oh really? I would try that, once after sda1 finishes.
[00:14] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: I'd just ctrl-c that one you have running and start over with /dev/sda
[00:14] <LeeJunFan> since /dev/sda will scan the whole drive you're really going to be scanning sda1 twice if you let it go.
[00:15] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: It seems useble desktop only has a read-only access to my HD but that should not matter as we're only checking for the errors, not trying to fix them.
[00:15] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Okay, let me cancel it, and go for sda.
[00:16] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: if you're using sudo then it has r/w access.
[00:16] <LeeJunFan> it needs r/w because badblocks reads and writes data to the HD to make sure it's stable. That bad CD you have might be the reason it failed.
[00:16] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Yes, you were right! :) Earlier it was checking 37608132 size (for sda1), but now it is checking 39070070 (for sda)!
[00:17] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Oh, that could be the case. It says "Checking for bad blocks (read-only test)"
[00:18] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: oh, r/w test is an option.
[00:18] <LeeJunFan> good though, read only will be a lot faster.
[00:18] <Carla1989> I would imagine so, yes.
[00:20] <LeeJunFan> If that works then just install kubuntu from a verified error-free CD and you should be all set.
[00:23] <Carla1989> Yep, It has already checked 8.5/39
[00:25] <Carla1989> Must I tell you, I was so dissapointed earlier from not being able to check my HD for any errors -- that I thought of going for a new one simply trashing the old one.
[00:25] <Carla1989> But if there are no errors, I would not buy a new one!
[00:25] <Carla1989> :)
[00:26] <Carla1989> There is another possibility though. If HD does not have any errors, I have to find some other source.
[00:28] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: if the HD doesn't have any errors then it's likely that the installation failed because the CD was corrupt. When the installation failed it may have left your HD w/o a boot sector, that's all.
[00:29] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: omg! w/o a boot sector? You mean corrupted it, in some sense? If that's the case, are there steps to re-install the boot sector like it was before?
[00:29] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: that would be re-done during installation.
[00:30] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: the problem is that you have a 1/2 installed system. If you put your old boot sector back that would be XP's, which would try to boot to the kubuntu installation on your HD, wouldn't work.
[00:30] <Carla1989> Oh, so in the meanwhile - I'll just get another bootable CD done on this laptop (one which is working perfectly).
[00:31] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: right, just make sure you have a good CD and try again.
[00:31] <Carla1989> What software do you use for burning bootable CD's?
[00:31] <Carla1989> These are all good CD's, infact brand new box I opened last week.
[00:31] <Carla1989> There must have been some fault, with me burning them incorrectly.
[00:32] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: I think there's a free program for windows called cdburn or something, lemme see if I can find it. I haven't used windows for anything except games in about 11 years.
[00:33] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Oh, that'll be superrr
[00:33] <LeeJunFan> Unless I'm fixing someone elses broken windows system. :)
[00:33] <Carla1989> Haha, like in this case.
[00:33] <HollowPoint> deepburner works on windows and is free
[00:34] <Carla1989> Deepburner, is it? Does it involve nerdy steps to be followed when burning a "bootable" CD?
[00:34] <Carla1989> If I can remember, we get an ISO image after we download it from kubuntu website.
[00:34] <Carla1989> What do I do afterwards?
[00:34] <HollowPoint> if you call selecting a burnable image from within the program and clicking ok nerdy I suppose then yeah lol
[00:34] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: yeah, HollowPoint has one there, imgburn was the one I was thinking about. http://www.imgburn.com/
[00:35] <Carla1989> Haha, okay then I am that much nerdy myself.
[00:35] <Carla1989> So which one have you used for burning bootable ISO's
[00:35] <LeeJunFan> when you are burning an iso image you don't have to worry about it being bootable. That's in the iso
[00:36] <HollowPoint> thankfully the Linux ISO's are bootable by nature, if you create a data CD and copy the image over it looses it's bootable properties, if you select the option to burn an iso image then select said image it will burn properly and remain bootable
[00:36] <LeeJunFan> I haven't burned a CD on windows in a LONG time.
[00:36] <HollowPoint> unfortunately I still have to use Windows at work occassionally, although that contract is ending soon and my business revolves mostly around Linux
[00:36] <Carla1989> Oh my god, really? I always thought, we have to get the CD bootable by doing some "nerdy" things. But it looks like I was wrong
[00:37] <HollowPoint> in the old days you had to, but these days it's built into the iso
[00:37] <mcludoboss> français??
[00:37] <HollowPoint> you just have to remember to choose the option to burn an existing iso file and not create a data cd
[00:37] <Colonel_Panic> OK I can't figure out why dbus isn't starting when I log in
[00:37] <favro> !fr
[00:38] <Darkrift2> nethack could be a decent game if it had any decent documentation... for a 20 year old game, im surprised 10+ searches on google for how to equip an item all point to useless junk
[00:38] <Colonel_Panic> Is there some conf file I can edit to fix this?
[00:38] <zabbadapp> Carla1989: for burning an iso or any cd on windows: http://infrarecorder.sourceforge.net/  (open source windows software)
[00:39] <Colonel_Panic> aren't there like a gazillion different versions of nethack?
[00:39] <Colonel_Panic> anyway, Usurper is a much better game anyway
[00:40] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: try this - 'sudo pidof dbus-daemon' and make sure it returns nothing.
[00:40] <Colonel_Panic> I got 2 numbers as a response
[00:40] <Colonel_Panic> one sec... lemme try something else
[00:42] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: then dbus is running
[00:42] <Colonel_Panic> hah! OK dbus IS running
[00:42] <Colonel_Panic> something else must be causing the problem
[00:42] <LeeJunFan> so there's some other unknown reason your externals aren't being recognized.
[00:43] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: try 'lsusb' and see if your HD is listed on the USB bus.
[00:43] <Carla1989> zabbadapp: Have you used this software yourself? Because if you haven't, I've already started downloading imageburn, suggested by LeeFanJun
[00:44] <MySQL_dumkopf> herro, I for some raisin have the option to shut off my computer. I also noticed that I'm no longer prompted for my credentials with a pretty login window, I'm dropped to a command line and have to "startx" to get my desktop.
[00:44] <LeeJunFan> I know imageburn is popular and easy, from others who've recommended it, but I've not used it myself. It has a checking feature so you can verify the CD btw :)
[00:45] <MySQL_dumkopf> don't have the option*
[00:45] <HollowPoint> MySQL_dumkopf: that doesn't sound good. Which version of Kubuntu are you using and when did this start happening? Do you remember making any large changes before this happened the first time?
[00:46] <MySQL_dumkopf> HollowPoint, yeah, I'm on Kubuntu 3.5.8, I had 4.0 installed (I'm on Gutsy) and I removed KDE 4.0 and this started happening heh
[00:46] <zabbadapp> Carla1989: yes, briefly ... but I'm sure imgburn works as well ... is it also open source?
[00:46] <LeeJunFan> MySQL_dumkopf: then kdm4 is trying to be started and isn't there any more.
[00:46] <HollowPoint> you need to re-install kdm for kde3.5.9
[00:46] <HollowPoint> 3.5.8*
[00:47] <LeeJunFan> MySQL_dumkopf: the file /etc/X11/default-display-manager holds information as to which display manager to start on boot, it needs to be changed to point to /usr/bin/kdm
[00:47] <HollowPoint> although actually it's probably still there, just isn't being pointed to,
[00:47] <MySQL_dumkopf> well, I'm able to shutdown/power off at the command line and start it via the command line so it's not a BIG problem, thought it would be an easy fix :)
[00:47] <HollowPoint> there ya go
[00:47] <zabbadapp> Carla1989: (looking at the homepage) i see that imgburn looks pretty good, i'm sure it will serve you well.
[00:48] <LeeJunFan> MySQL_dumkopf: just open it with a text editor and change it. save it, then start kdm with - sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[00:48] <LeeJunFan> or just reboot
[00:48] <HollowPoint> or reboot for a completely clean start,
[00:49] <MySQL_dumkopf> danke herr LeeJunFan :) I've made the changes, I shall restart
[00:49] <HollowPoint> you keep getting there before me LeeJunFan lol
[00:49] <pekuja> I'm trying to download the KDE 4 remix ISO, but all the links seem to be broken. is that not available anymore?
[00:49] <HollowPoint> are you already on kubuntu with KDE3.5.9?
[00:49] <pekuja> no
[00:49] <pekuja> I'm doing a fresh install
[00:50] <Colonel_Panic> LeeJunFan: Here's my /etc/fstab file: http://www.pastebin.ca/1202184
[00:50] <HollowPoint> fair enough, well to be perfectly honest I did a VM install of KDE4 Remix the other day and I STILL had to upgrade it to KDE4.1 via adding the appropriate repos to /etc/apt/sources.list so I'd suggest just a fresh install of Kubuntu normal, then add the repo and upgrade to KDE4.1
[00:50] <HollowPoint> or install alongside 3.5.*
[00:51] <pekuja> ok, I guess that's ok
[00:51] <pekuja> the links should probably be taken down. there are links to a "beta" directory on mirrors, but none seem to have that
[00:51] <HollowPoint> the links were working the other day so I'm not sure why thats happening
[00:51] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: you shouldn't need usb devices in fstab, did you try lsusb?
[00:51] <mcludoboss> fr
[00:52] <Colonel_Panic> no... I just added that today
[00:52] <Colonel_Panic> I was going to delete that line
[00:52] <LeeJunFan> run lsusb and see if you see your hd's.
[00:52] <mcludoboss> I want the server adress for french please
[00:52] <mcludoboss> I want the server adress for french please
[00:52] <HollowPoint> #kubuntu-fr
[00:52] <mcludoboss> thanks!
[00:52] <HollowPoint> np
[00:53] <Carla1989> Looks like it has started scanning bigger chunks, going very fast now. 24/39 done.
[00:53] <pekuja> HollowPoint, well on the download page, if you select KDE 4 remix, it just downloads the regular version anyways
[00:53] <HollowPoint> interesting
[00:54] <Colonel_Panic> LeeJunFan: What's lsusb?
[00:54] <pekuja> now where did I see that "beta" link...
[00:54] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: it's a shell command that lists what's attached to the USB ports.
[00:54] <HollowPoint> well as I said earlier pekuja the remix isn't much use anyway as you still have to sit there for half an hour or more updating to KDE4.1 so may as well install Kubuntu with KDE3.5.* and upgrade/install alongside KDE4.1 from the repo
[00:55] <pekuja> HollowPoint, ok
[00:55] <LeeJunFan> I agree with that.
[00:55] <pekuja> HollowPoint, well I guess the point would be that I wouldn't get two copies of KDE
[00:55] <sgallinger> !VLC
[00:55] <sgallinger> !cls
[00:55] <sgallinger> how come vlc won't play wmv files ?
[00:55] <pekuja> HollowPoint, 4.0 would upgrade to 4.1, but 3.5 is in separate packages, right?
[00:55] <HollowPoint> yeah it would be another option to boot into from KDM
[00:56] <MySQL_dumkopf> LeeJunFan, that worked wonderfully, thanks!
[00:56] <HollowPoint> you would still have both installed
[00:56] <pekuja> yeah
[00:56] <pekuja> extra clutter
[00:56] <HollowPoint> true
[00:56] <LeeJunFan> pekuja: yeah, you'd have to remove 3.5 after.
[00:56] <christoph> hi togehter
[00:56] <HollowPoint> sgallinger: does anything on your system play wmv files? i.e. mplayer?
[00:57] <pekuja> at least apt-get is pretty good at removing big sets of packages these days
[00:57] <LeeJunFan> !codecs
[00:57] <HollowPoint> IMHO next to portage (Gentoo) Aptitude is the best package manager out there
[00:57] <christoph> apt-egt is better
[00:58] <LeeJunFan> okay, well, I'm out for a while, good luck Colonel_Panic and Carla1989 - ttyl.
[00:59] <HollowPoint> laters LeeJunFan
[01:00] <christoph> is there any chance to get an Epson 5590 run on a 64-bit system?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> christoph: sure its not a hp?
[01:01] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Thanks for your help. :)
[01:02] <christoph> @action no epson
[01:02] <christoph> but 4490
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> ok let me check
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=705566
[01:03] <HollowPoint> hi ActionParsnip hows things?
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> HollowPoint: not bad, just having another slog at gentoo for laughs
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> HollowPoint: my am2 semperon64 3000 isnt so hot for compiles
[01:04] <Carla1989> Is it true that there is rivalry between debian and kubuntu? A friend of mine told me.
[01:04] <Fieldy> not that i'm aware of
[01:04] <HollowPoint> I gave up on Gentoo a while back, did three system installs within 4 weeks of 2008.0 being released, one using ~x86, one without and one fully stable, I managed to break all 3
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Carla1989: theres no rivalry anywhere except for sad fanboys
[01:04] <Carla1989> ActionParsnip: Okay. :)
[01:04] <christoph> @action - thnk a lot. but ie done these tutorial for my 32-bit system. Now I have 64-Bit.
[01:05] <HollowPoint> Carla1989: *Ubuntu is derrived from Debian, the *Ubuntu family of releases is far more suited for desktops and new users than Debian is
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Carla1989: if it works for you, use it. same with mac or windows
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Carla1989: what other people use on their system doesnt affect you so dont sweat it
[01:05] <christoph> some keys of my keyboard are dead - sorry
[01:05] <Carla1989> ActionParsnip: Yes, I understand that. Looks like Kubuntu just saved me $100 for a new HD.
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> christoph: most are generic
[01:06] <kathy>  hello,  anyone able send files direct with kopete or pidgin...neither are working under msn
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> kathy: mine doesnt work but i just ask folks to upload to my ftp :D
[01:06] <kathy> it used work.  know what problem is?
[01:07] <christoph> I know, but iscan is only as an 32-bit version available.
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> kathy: its broken, you have both pieces. Ive not looked into it but you may be able to websearch a remedy
[01:07] <HollowPoint> kathy I use aMSN instead, I don't have problems sending files through MSN with it where I did with Kopete
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> christoph: yuo can install 32bit libs ;)
[01:08] <christoph> okay. I try it. Thanks a lot.
[01:08] <Carla1989> Okay, the badblocks test completed just now and there were no errors. Should I just go ahead and install Kubuntu and hope for it to fix my Boot Sector progam too? LeeJunFan mentioned that interrupted Kubuntu setup program may have left my HD without a boot sector and a fresh install would fix it.
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Carla1989: you can reinstall grub if your boot sector is damaged
[01:09] <HollowPoint> Carla1989: I take it you've formatted the drive and run a disk check which has now reported no errors? If so then yeah fresh install of Kubuntu should be all good, are you wanting it to dualboot wit hWindows?
[01:09] <Fieldy> !kernel upgrade
[01:09] <Fieldy> !kernel
[01:09] <kathy> I give amsn try..i have it installed..thanks
[01:10] <HollowPoint> np
[01:11] <Carla1989> Just to repeat the long story: I wanted to use this laptop after so many months but it wouldn't boot my XP. So I tried installing Kubuntu and it was interrupted in between on account of an error on the install CD that I burnt. Afterwards it wouldn't boot and give "Please insert drive in the system, Press any key when done" errors. So I thought my HD has gone bad but badblocks couldn't find anything.
[01:12] <Carla1989> So I'll go ahead and install kubuntu from scratch - after burning a new CD with no errors, hopefully this time.
[01:12] <Fieldy> hm. i see a kernel update in adept. it mentions "You likely do not want to install this package directly. Instead, install the linux-generic meta-package, which will ensure that upgrades work correctly, and that supporting packages are also installed." but when i look at linux-generic, there's no upgrade available. at this point i'm confused, how do i update my kernel?
[01:13] <HollowPoint> that should work fine Carla1989, if you're wanting a dualboot then that should work also, just install XP first, then once installed you install Kubuntu and it'll give you the option to re-partition the drive and install alongside it, then you'll have both OS's with a boot menu
[01:13] <HollowPoint> Fieldy: why do you need to upgrade your kernel?
[01:13] <Fieldy> HollowPoint: i don't need to, i wish to
[01:13] <HollowPoint> what version are you running at the moment?
[01:14] <Fieldy> 2.6.24-19-generic
[01:14] <Fieldy> oops. 19.36
[01:15] <HollowPoint> well I'm using that exact same kernel and as far as I know it's the latest stable kernel for Kubuntu8.04, is there a specific reason you want to upgrade your kernel to something not certified as stable?
[01:15] <Fieldy> i thought only stable stuff is displayed, now i'm really confused.
[01:16] <Darkrift2> im not an expert at compiling, but arent there more commands required besides make? the make says its configuring and installing the app... makes it sound like thats all thats needed
[01:16] <Fieldy> anyway no offense but i'm interested in performing this, not out of need but simple desire
[01:16] <HollowPoint> have you enabled a backports repository or added an extra repo for third party software ?
[01:16] <Fieldy> no
[01:16] <CoJaBo-Eee> What do I need to install to get Java in Firefox?
[01:16] <Darkrift2> install java, restart firefox
[01:16] <HollowPoint> Darkrift2: ./configure then make then make install
[01:16] <Darkrift2> !java
[01:16] <christoph> Have a good night an thanks a lot. Bye bye
[01:18] <HollowPoint> CoJaBo-Eee: You can close Firefox down, open the adept manager, search for mozilla and you'll see java-nonfree or something near the top of the list, install that then start Firefox up
[01:18] <Fieldy> !smp
[01:19] <Fieldy> ah okay generic does support smp. right on.
[01:19] <christoph> It works fin with the 32bit libs
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> christoph: sweet
[01:20] <christoph> thanks action
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> christoph: np bro
[01:20] <HollowPoint> hows the gentoo install going ActionParsnip?
[01:20]  * ActionParsnip thinks compiling kernel modules takes too long
[01:21] <HollowPoint> lol are you timing the compile?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> cant be bothered
[01:21] <HollowPoint> lmao
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> its been about 4 songs on kerrang
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> so about 20 odd mins
[01:22] <HollowPoint> I'm tempted to do another Gentoo install in a VM but we get charged per MB for bandwidth out here so I'm reluctant to use a gig (Granted is only $1 but I have better stuff to use that GB of data for lol)
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> i have no cap :D
[01:23] <HollowPoint> I miss being in the UK and having an 8MB download with no limits :'(
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> HollowPoint: s'what i got
[01:23] <Fieldy> !nvidia
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> plud virginmedia have gentoo stuff on their servers :)
[01:23] <CoJaBo-Eee> Darkrift2: Ok, does that install the stand-alone JVM and plugin at once?
[01:24] <Darkrift2> dont remember
[01:24] <HollowPoint> yeah I know, that's where I download from when installing Gentoo, I'm in NZ so am on the opposite side of the world yet Virgin Medias servers are the fastest ones even from here
[01:24] <Darkrift2> been a few weeks, but it should say on that site
[01:24] <HollowPoint> God bless Richard Branson
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> HollowPoint: wowser
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> HollowPoint: smart guy :D
[01:24] <christoph> Have good night - bye bye
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> peace ou christoph
[01:24] <ign0ramus> hey all.  i just noticed that upon startup, i am loading all startup scripts twice ('setting up preliminary keymap', 'preparing restricted drivers', etc).  is this a hang-on from upgrading from Gutsy?  And how do i stop it?
[01:25] <HollowPoint> ign0ramus: have you just installed KDE4 or something?
[01:25]  * ActionParsnip thinks HollowPoint has got it nailed
[01:25] <ign0ramus> HollowPoint: i did about three months ago...
[01:26] <ign0ramus> HollowPoint: what do i need to uninstall to stop this?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: kde4 startup is in ~/.kde4/share/autostart
[01:26] <HollowPoint> have you confirmed that your system is fully up to date?
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: kde3.5 autorun is in ~/.kde/Autorun
[01:27] <ign0ramus> HollowPoint: run update && upgrade every day
[01:27] <HollowPoint> by this I mean you've installed the repos for KDE4 and confirmed it's updated to KDE4.1 and not KDE4.0?
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: check the scripts arent in both as they may both get executed
[01:27] <ign0ramus> HollowPoint: oh, i don't know- i don't use the kde4
[01:27]  * ActionParsnip uses fluxbox
[01:27] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: i don't want any of the kde4 scripts at all... what can i safely rm?
[01:27] <HollowPoint> just uninstall KDE4 then and set the KDM used back to KDM instead of KDM4
[01:28] <HollowPoint> !kdm
[01:28] <HollowPoint> grah ubottu you suck
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: cd ~/.kde4/share/Autostart
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: you can rm any stuff in there
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: id check what they are first (if there are any)
[01:28] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: no such file or directory
[01:29] <Walzmyn> !kde4
[01:29] <HollowPoint> I'd be careful with that though, make sure you're using the right kdm version, if you remove the autostart stuff without setting back to kdm you may have problems
[01:29] <ign0ramus> HollowPoint: what is the name of the kde4 package that i can purge?
[01:29] <HollowPoint> ign0ramus: what if you just do cd ~/.kde4?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> HollowPoint: i thout the autostart was for when the user logs in, not kdm
[01:30] <HollowPoint> yeah it is action but I'm not all that convinced with kdm4, besides kdm is better anyway :D
[01:30] <ign0ramus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/46747/
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> ive not used it to such an extent to compare, i use autologin stuffs so it doesnt get much of a lookin
[01:31] <LinuxApe> last night
[01:31] <ign0ramus> HollowPoint: can i delete the entire folder?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: its in share you need to be
[01:31] <HollowPoint> ign0ramus: I think you can mate, but I'd still set it back to use KDM rather than KDM4 as well before rebooting
[01:31] <LinuxApe> last night's upgrade offered a new k3b, but when installed it now longer knows how to handle mp3's.  Anyone know about this?
[01:32] <iss_student> How in KDE 4 can I verify I am running 4.1?
[01:32] <HollowPoint> when you say it no longer knows how to handle mp3s what do you mean LinuxApe?
[01:32] <ign0ramus> HollowPoint: afaik, i am using kdm... how do i know for sure?
[01:32] <HollowPoint> iss_student: what does your login screen look like?
[01:32] <ign0ramus> HollowPoint: i use persistent login
[01:32] <LinuxApe> You get an error about not knowing how to handle this file type
[01:32] <ign0ramus> HollowPoint: haven't seen it in ages
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> LinuxApe: change your file associations
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> LinuxApe: if you run amarok and try to play an mp3 does it play ok?
[01:34] <HollowPoint> ign0ramus:  /etc/X11/default-display-manager contains the details of which KDM you're using
[01:34] <holycow>  i'm running kde4 in production.  i would like to make sure all kde3 related stuff is completely uninstalled.
[01:34] <holycow> what is the best way to remove all remnants of kde3?
[01:35] <ign0ramus> HollowPoint: simply says /usr/bin/kdm
[01:35] <HollowPoint> ign0ramus: then you're using kdm
[01:35] <LinuxApe> ActionParsnip:  yes, amarok still plays mp3s
[01:35] <HollowPoint> if you were using kdm4 it would say /usr/bin/kdm4
[01:35] <ign0ramus> HollowPoint: k, thanks mate
[01:35] <HollowPoint> holycow: you just wanting to get rid of clutter?
[01:35] <juan> erm i killed my install, the / is fine AFAIK but the /boot is ruined, im working of an install on a second drive how can i make the /boot boot to my old /
[01:36] <holycow> HollowPoint: yeah, also i want to force my self to depend on kde4 apps fully
[01:36] <LinuxApe> Installing the new k3b removed a k3bmp3 library, but it also installed a new k3blib3 library or something, so I thought it was just a replacement.
[01:36] <HollowPoint> I'd say backup your stuff, install KDE4 remix and upgrade to KDE4.1 through the repos, then you've got absolutely NO kde3 packages
[01:36] <holycow> i need to look at putting together some sort of reverse metapackage for this, one that tracks kde package families and removes them upon request
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> LinuxApe: then its file associations in your file manaer
[01:37] <HollowPoint> probably quicker than getting rid of KDE3 packages that are already installed
[01:37] <holycow> HollowPoint: reinstall from scratch?
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> HollowPoint: compiled kerenl. im gonna jet, peace y'all
[01:37] <HollowPoint> I'd say it'd be worth it holycow if you're wanting to be completely dependant on kde4
[01:37] <HollowPoint> safest way not to destroy your existing system
[01:38] <holycow> HollowPoint: isn't there a way to remove a key library from kde3 and force the dpkg to remove most of kde3 to begin with?
[01:38] <LinuxApe> ActionParsnip:  Not sure I get your meaning.  k3b uses file associations?  The error message says to use another program to convert the files to wav format, but that's a pain, k3b used to do it seemlessly
[01:39] <HollowPoint> possibly but not one that I'm aware of. Put it this way I reckon the amount of time it would take to find out how to remove everything for KDE3 on your existing system would be double the time it would take to backup your data, re-install KDE4 remix and upgrade to KDE4.1
[01:39] <HollowPoint> plus the factor of rendering your existing system useless if you make a mistake trying to remove KDE3 and end up removing both or something that KDE4 is reliant on seems a better idea to install from scratch
[01:40] <holycow> yeah good point
[01:40] <HollowPoint> LinuxApe: ActionParsnip is gone mate, his Gentoo kernel compiled so he had to go sort it
[01:40] <Darkrift2> anyone seen this error and/or know how to fix it: make: git-rev-list: Command not found
[01:40] <HollowPoint> what program are you trying to install Darkrift2?
[01:41] <Darkrift2> 10 different ones, all nethack variants
[01:41] <Darkrift2> all are failing, this one gives that error, then many more
[01:41] <HollowPoint> roflmfao nice
[01:41] <HollowPoint> sorry to say this Darkrift2 but "google is your friend" in this case
[01:41] <Darkrift2> falcons eye/vultures eye
[01:42] <HollowPoint> specific error by specific error :(
[01:42] <Darkrift2> i googled, got tons of useless mailing list posts with nothing good in them
[01:42] <Darkrift2> im about to just install the windows version using wine as pathetic as that is
[01:42] <HollowPoint> yeah been there myself but are you googling the error or the program name?
[01:43] <Darkrift2> mostly the error, but ive tried both
[01:43] <HollowPoint> hmmmmmm
[01:43] <Darkrift2> im normally good at finding stuff like that on google
[01:43] <Darkrift2> every forum i find with that error says they gave up on it
[01:43] <HollowPoint> this one just has loads of useless crap though?
[01:43] <HollowPoint> lmao that sounds like an omen to me then Darkrift2
[01:43] <_2> google hates me.    i always get tons of useless blah about what i'm looking for,   either that our "did you spell it correctly?"     heh.
[01:46] <_2> of course the fact that i'm usually doing something that no one else in their right mind does may have some thing to do with that
[01:47] <_2> so waht is it we are trying to get to work anyway ?
[01:47] <_2> what
[01:48] <Darkrift2> where do i find the option to enable my nvidia drivers? used to be in system settings, but cant find it
[01:49] <Darkrift2> found it
[01:49] <Darkrift2> needs restart :(
[01:56] <CoJaBo-Eee> What do I need to do to get Java in Firefox?
[01:57] <_2> !java
[01:57] <CoJaBo-Eee> I installed that, but it didn't give me the Java plugin in Firefox.
[01:58] <_2> !find java-plugin
[01:59] <_2> well.    !
[01:59] <_2> !info sun-java6-plugin
[01:59] <_2> !info sun-java5-plugin
[02:03] <CoJaBo-Eee> Thanks,  its working now
[02:04] <joshua__> can someone help me dual boot kubuntu hardy and arch linux (kubuntu on sda and arch on sdb)?
[02:05] <joshua24> please?
[02:08] <_2> joshua24 sda would be the disk not a partition, while i do install linux on partitionless disks most don't.    now what are you having trouble with exactly ?
[02:09] <_2> joshua24 the most simple way i have found is to copy the kernel+initramfs pair to the /boot/ of the primary disk "sda" in your case and install the boot loader of choice there.
[02:10] <_2> other options include letting the boot loader "bounce" to the next disk and have boot loaders on each disk.
[02:11] <joshua24> 2, i getting help on arch linux, join #archlinux to hear i dont feel like retyping lol
[02:11] <_2> as well as having a boot loader load all kernels from one location, while this is not the best methood.
[02:11] <_2> joshua24 k.  standard proceedure would then be to withdraw your question here /
[02:12] <joshua24> k
[02:13] <joshua24> withdrawling
[02:13] <_2> heh.     "im going to ask, but i really don't want you to answer..."     sheeze
[02:14] <DarkriftX> i dont get it.... a 20 year old game, 500 variants and none of them install on modern systems?
[02:14] <DarkriftX> and when they do, they are buggy as hell
[02:14] <geek> lol
[02:14] <geek> doom?
[02:15] <DarkriftX> nethack
[02:15] <_2> DarkriftX not so hard to understand.  most very old games "took over" the graphics, and modern systems don't allow that.
[02:15] <_2> oh nethack  no graphics there then
[02:16] <_2> !find nethack
[02:16] <_2> the other three are "nethack-qt nethack-spoilers nethack-x11"
[02:17] <_2> !info nethack-qt
[02:23] <_2> is it possable to turn the backlight off on tosheba satalite a130 ?
[02:24] <_2> sorry a135
[02:25] <_2> well it must be.  closing the lid does it....
[02:26] <geek> _2: shouldn't there be a hardware thing to do it, fn some button?
[02:26] <_2> geek i'm sure there should be.  but i have tested every possable fn+ combination
[02:27] <_2> nothing seems to affect display at all
[02:27] <_2> geek "partial problem is 'ati'"
[02:28] <_2> so i was wondering if there was a "kernel" way to do it...
[02:28] <juan> is anybody else having problems with http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ ?
[02:31] <_2> woops i just flooded myself  out of existance.....
[02:34] <_2> i must add that to my list of "never do this's"   ;/
[02:35] <_2> never search your irclog from within your irc client   it's worse than "cat /dev/urandom"
[02:37] <favro> juan: it opens ok here
[02:37] <juan> yeah seams ok now, thx
[02:37] <Mrunagi> can anyone help me figure out why kppp says no such device /dev/rfcomm0 when i try to connect using my bluetooth phone?
[02:38] <HollowPoint> juan a couple of other people were having problems earlier downloading various different versions from all different mirrors, I think maybe some upgrades/maintainence might be happening at the moment
[02:38] <Sixzero> Mrunagi: what kind of phone do you have?
[02:38] <juan> might not be the best time to do a straight download then :s
[02:38] <Mrunagi> samsung instinct
[02:39] <Mrunagi> i know it has something to do with hcid and rfcomm.conf.....but i cant really figure it out
[02:39] <_2> HollowPoint good call they do try to schedual that sort of thing at night and on the weakend
[02:40] <Sixzero> Mrunagi: nice phone.  Who's your service provider?  Some of them like Verizon actually lock out a lot of Bluetooth features like OBEX that'll give you a lot of problems.
[02:40] <Mrunagi> sprint......i unlocked the phone....it works i can do it in windows i just forgot how in kubuntu
 problem is being in NZ it's not night for me, it's 1:45 in the afternoon here
[02:42] <_2> HollowPoint heh  can't be middle of the night everywhere  ;/
[02:42] <HollowPoint> very true _2 still annoying though
[02:43] <HollowPoint> would be ok if we got decent internet down here but we don't. I miss the UK with 8Meg download and unlimited bandwidth caps etc
[02:43] <HollowPoint> I get 4 Meg speeds here with $1 per GB of download
[02:43] <_2> HollowPoint heh i get 2k down  ;/
[02:43] <Sixzero> Mrunagi: can you see it when you run kbluemon?
[02:44] <Mrunagi> i  know that it pairs, it just wont actually dial out......it gets as far as initializing modem
[02:48] <Sixzero> Mrunagi: are you on kde3 or kde4?
[02:54] <devo>  i was woundering is an ipod compatible with linux???
[02:54] <devo>  i was woundering is an ipod compatible with linux???
[02:57] <CoJaBo-Eee> devo: There are several ipod managers, but I have never used them
[03:07] <duiu> Is there a skin for Amaok that makes it look more gnome-like?
[03:08] <duiu> *Amarok
[03:13] <_2> anyone know what might cause mc to not be able to execute commands ?
[03:17] <_2> this is how i tested it after i noticed it didn't work correctly.   # echo boo
[03:17] <_2> Press any key to continue...
[03:18] <_2> could use # ls    or any other command,  none work.
[03:19] <favro> mc = midnightcommander?
[03:19] <_2> wait.  never mind.   it's the "SHELL=" variable not set correctly.     pfft.      i withdraw my question !
[03:19] <favro> heh
[03:19] <DarkriftX> lol
[03:20] <DarkriftX> mc iz TeH pwnZorz
[03:21] <Denestria> used it eons ago as norton commander
[03:22] <pekuja> mmm... KDE4.1...
[03:22] <bleck> anyone have a google earth deb i could copy? (the googleearth-package to make it isn't working)
[03:22] <pekuja> it's pretty
[03:22] <bleck> pekuja: agreed.
[03:22] <bleck> pekuja: and now stable :)
[03:22] <pekuja> I'm not sure I like the main menu though... probably requires some getting used to
[03:23] <MySQL_dumkopf> I had openoffice installed back when I was running Gnome, now that I'm running KDE 3/5/8, I no longer have it. Is there a special app for this?
[03:23] <bleck> pekuja: I actually like it now, just make it a bit bigger
[03:23] <_2> Denestria well it "was based on" norton commander, yes.  but there are some major differances.   the implimentation of "fish://" for example  and plain text extention files
[03:23] <bleck> whats fish:// ?
[03:24]  * _2 adds "export SHELL=/bin/sh"    to /etc/profile
[03:24] <christhebliss> hi, sorry to ask but how do I receive a channellist for this server? ive never used irc before...
[03:24] <pekuja> bleck, well it seems to be pretty nice but the Applications-menu specifically feels a little clunky to me
[03:24] <pekuja> I guess the problem is that there's too much stuff in there to begin with
[03:25] <pekuja> I'm sure this is pretty nice when I can use Favorites and Recently Used most of the time
[03:25] <_2> bleck ssh file managment.  open konqueror and type in     fish:///user@hostname/     if you have an ssh account anywhere
[03:25] <bleck> pekuja: yeah, I know what you mean, but I still prefer it to a hover-foldout menu.
[03:25] <favro> christhebliss: http://searchirc.com/search.php?SCHANS=1&SSORT=SIZE&N=freenode
[03:26] <christhebliss> thanks favro
[03:26] <bleck> _2: heh, thats cool.
[03:26] <_2> err s_///_//_g
[03:26] <pekuja> _2, way cool
[03:26] <_2> indeed
[03:27] <_2> and using it in mc from a console is kewlar still
[03:28] <christhebliss> help
[03:28]  * _2 thinks "don't you just love it when the kids come to linux..."
[03:29] <Denestria> @christhebliss You forgot the slash. :)
[03:29] <_2> lol
[03:29] <christhebliss> haha sorry...
[03:29] <_2> /help    :)))
[03:30] <_2> /say /help    :)))
[03:31] <christhebliss> ive found a basic command list for first time irc users, i guess ill be allright :) thanks anyway
[03:32] <pekuja> _2, I've been using Linux for 10 years and I have used FUSE in the past. fish seems a whole lot handier though
[03:32] <_2> pekuja it has it's disadvantages too     but generaly speaking yes it is.
[03:33] <pekuja> well I can imagine. how does it handle multiple clients?
[03:33] <geek> pekuja: different things ;p
[03:33] <_2> if you try to fish a dir with more than 16k inodes in it, you'll have to find a way to externally kill the ls loop cause it just hangs.
[03:33] <pekuja> geek, yeah I get that
[03:34] <geek> fish is a protocol though SSH. Fuse is a whole IFS system
[03:34] <pekuja> geek, well I mean sshfs with FUSE, really
[03:34] <_2> internal field seperator ?
[03:35] <_2> sshfs is ok too.    i like fish better when it's applicalbe
[03:36] <_2> :s
[03:36] <_2> echo "\"$IFS\""
[03:37] <_2> set | grep IFS
[03:37] <snude> hi
[03:37] <snude> i have my alsadrivers configured. i can listen to music.  what program will let me record in mp3 format from the microphone.
[03:38] <pekuja> Audacity? (there's probably a KDE alternative too though)
[03:38] <_2> !mp3 | snude short answer might be, there are several.
[03:39] <pekuja> hmn, I don't think mp3 really is the real issue here
[03:39] <pekuja> I would think most recording programs can save to mp3, but what's a good program for doing that?
[03:40] <_2> sox is cool for recording and playing from the cli.
[03:40] <_2> !info sox
[03:41] <_2> btw when using sox, the commands   "play <input>"   and   "rec <output>"   are used.
[03:42] <_2> !info mp3c
[03:43] <ubuntu> hi
[03:44] <masterflex> hi
[03:44] <_2> yes hello
[03:46] <masterflex> thx
[03:48] <pepinux> Saludos amigos linuxeros...
[03:49] <_2> howdy pinguin people (:
[03:49] <pepinux> hay algún experto por aquí que me pueda echar la mano con Hardy y las equis?
[03:50] <pekuja> arh, why can't the menu item for Kontact say "E-Mail"?
[03:51] <pepinux> alguien habla castellano por aquí?
[03:52] <bazhang> !es
[03:52] <pepinux> gracias ubottu voy pa' allá
[04:01] <_2> comments on root user name other than root ?
[04:03] <masterflex> sudo
[04:03] <masterflex> soit clair 2
[04:03] <masterflex> root = sudo
[04:04] <_2> masterflex no.  sudo == switch users and do      as  su == switch users
[04:05] <_2> masterflex root is the default user for both of those
[04:05] <masterflex> thx for the infos
[04:06] <_2> i'm wondering if anyone has thoughts on changing the name of root to something else ?
[04:07] <masterflex> not yet
[04:07] <masterflex> nice to meet you 2
[04:08] <masterflex> are you a geek
[04:08] <masterflex> ???????
[04:08] <_2> nice to meet you also.
[04:08] <masterflex> i have a question for you
[04:09] <masterflex> 2
[04:09] <_2> a geek ?  by what standard ?      to some i guess i am
[04:09] <masterflex> i install java run and still
[04:09]  * Denestria is laughing.
[04:09] <_2> Denestria be nice    :)
[04:09] <masterflex> i have error message on some site
[04:10] <masterflex> that run jave
[04:11] <_2> !info sun-java6-plugin
[04:11] <_2> maybe you need that ^ masterflex
[04:11] <_2> or the version 5 which is same place
[04:11] <masterflex> ok thx
[04:14] <_2> i have to go.  later people.
[04:14] <Denestria> @_2 night
[04:15] <masterflex> see ya
[04:16] <masterflex> bye
[05:05] <mn> is there any way to loose KDE after installing ubuntu-desktop and get rid of the KDE login screen and make it the Gnome login screen basically turning it into Ubuntu?
[05:06] <favro> !puregnome
[05:07] <favro> mn: ^^
[05:07] <mn> ah sorry
[05:07] <favro> mn: nothing to be sorry about :)
[05:07] <mn> :)
[05:08] <favro> mn: that's a link to a website about how to do what you want
[05:08] <mn> yep
[05:08] <mn> thnx much!
[05:10] <mn> favro: it says S: Couldn't find package manager
[05:10] <mn> E:*
[05:10] <favro> one min :)
[05:11] <mn> k
[05:12] <favro> mn: what does  sudo apt-get autoclean   return?
[05:13] <mn> the first three things in sudo apt-get install Done
[05:13] <mn> know what I mean?
[05:16] <mn> you still there favro?
[05:16] <favro> mn: yep
[05:16] <Carla1989> Why is that IP address of most of the people gets displayed when they're joining Kubuntu chat, but for a very few it's kinda masked. Do those people use some different chat software on Kubuntu?
[05:17] <marchiato> good morning
[05:17] <favro> Carla1989: they have a cloak - it's on freenodes' site
[05:17] <bazhang> !cloak | Carla1989
[05:17] <mn> marchiato:  what time zone are you in?
[05:18] <Carla1989> bazhang, favro: thanks, I would like one for me. :)
[05:19] <favro> mn: if you enter   adept   in konsole what happens?
[05:20] <mn> Wait, shall I login on KDE right quick?  I'm on GNOME right now
[05:20] <favro> mn: in gnome would work
[05:20] <mn> mk
[05:20] <mn> it says adept: command not found
[05:21] <mn> sudo apt-get install adept says its already installed and the newest version though
[05:21] <favro> k
[05:22] <favro> mn: leave adept out of the command from that site - does it move on?
[05:23] <mn> what do you mean leave it out?  remove anything with adept in it from the command?
[05:24] <Carla1989> Somehow I always get "Failed to copy files; faulty CD/DVD or hard disk?" error while installing Kubuntu. Is this some kind of a bug?
[05:25] <mn> favro: it keeps saying "Package [package] is not installed, so not romved" for every single package
[05:25] <Carla1989> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=810453 - Exactly like this
[05:27] <favro> mn: I've gotta ask then if kde stuff is installed? - :)
[05:28] <mn> yes.  I used the kubuntu liveCD for my linux install
[05:28] <favro> mn: does   sudo apt-get --purge remove kubuntu-desktop work? - or is this kde4?
[05:28] <ubuntu_> hi
[05:28] <mn> favro: i had to go the difficult way and get kde4
[05:29] <Carla1989> The setup was 89% complete
[05:29] <mn> hi ubuntu_
[05:30] <favro> mn: so you started with kubuntu-kde4? - the good folks in #kubuntu-kde4 will know about that
[05:33] <Carla1989> .
[06:04] <wers> how do I use compiz fusion on kde4?
[06:05] <wers> i'm using the latest kde4 version from the PPA, btw
[06:07] <BuildSmart> I've got ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) installed, I require the development kernel and I can't seem to find a howto that explains the process to someone new to ubuntu, I've got the source and the dependancies installed, can someone give me the quick build/install instructions that don't require having to configure anything?
[06:10] <favro> !kde4 | wers
[06:10] <wers> favro, how do i make compiz work on it?
[06:11] <favro> wers:   Support in #kubuntu-kde4  -  was the important bit
[06:12] <wers> thanks
[06:12] <favro> BuildSmart: are you trying to build a new kernel?
[06:12] <favro> np :)
[06:12] <BuildSmart> yes, I need the 2.6.26-rc5 kernel
[06:14] <BuildSmart> menuconfig is a little overwhelming cause I don't know half the answers to the questions.
[06:14] <favro> there's a good how to on the forums - I'll find it
[06:14] <BuildSmart> thnx.
[06:16] <HollowPoint> BuildSmart: I wouldn't go into kernel compiling with an attitude of "that don't require having to configure anything" lol, that's not how compiling a kernel works. if you want to compile you're own kernel then you need to know what you're doing
[06:17] <HollowPoint> I'd suggest installing Virtualbox on your existing machine and try installing gentoo into a virtual machine using the gentoo documentation, that'll teach you everything you need to know about compiling a kernel from sources
[06:18] <HollowPoint> how come you need the development kernel anyway and more than that how come you can't just install it through apt?
[06:18] <favro> BuildSmart: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 - walks you through nicely - old but appropriate
[06:19] <favro> !foss
[06:20] <matr1x> freedom isn't free, it costs a buck o five
[06:20] <BuildSmart> at this time to continue development I must install the development kernel, this is a one time affair, it will never have to occur again and a complete education for kernel building isn't required, an explaination into the reason the existing kernel doesn't work is functionality, all I need are the general commands to build and install the kernel with as little work on my part as possible.
[06:20] <BuildSmart> favro, thanks, I'll take a look at it.
[06:21] <favro> np :)
[06:25] <BuildSmart> favro, thank you but the instructions while not complicated are more involved than what I am told I need to do.  I'm told that I don't have to run any XXXconfig of any kind, all tools are already installed and apparently calling some script is supposed to build the kernel, I'm not knocking linux but if this is how it has to be done I can understand why developers wish to stay away form linux.
[06:27] <favro> BuildSmart: it is the interface between you and some complicated hardware...
[06:28] <BuildSmart> the hardware is not that complicated.
[06:28] <BuildSmart> trust me...
[06:28] <favro> if you use the ubuntu kernel as a start point you only have to change the setting relevant to your issue
[06:29] <CoJaBo-Eee> join #firefox
[06:29] <BuildSmart> not from a development standpoint.
[06:31] <CoJaBo-Eee> Ugh, I jist did that twicxe "/
[06:31] <CoJaBo-Eee> * :/
[06:32] <BuildSmart> the b43 guys want me to apply my fixes to their code since I seem to be the only one who has resolved certain issues however, it requires the devel kernel and since there doesn't seem to be a no-brainer method of installing it (which they say 2-3 commands does the trick but wont explain or provide) it seems that I wont be providing any fixes, I do wish to thank you for your time though, you have been helpful.
[06:36] <bleck> my system tray (the little icons near the time) has gone all corruptedey, is there any way to refresh it? (kde4)
[06:36] <Sara22> can someone help me with installing the USB drive I bought to my ubuntu. it is wusb54gsc model.  is that compatible>?
[06:36] <BuildSmart> sara is that a drive or a USB wireless adapter?
[06:37] <bleck> it must be a wireless adapter, it says 54g
[06:37] <Sara22> BuildSmart: its a usb wireless adapter.
[06:37] <bleck> Sara22: plug it in, see if it works?
[06:37] <bleck> Sara22: tail -f /var/log/messages
[06:37] <bleck> Sara22: do that before plugging it in and see if it shows stuff
[06:37] <Sara22> bleck: no I have not yet if it wasnt compatible i wasn't gonna open it.  will open it now
[06:38] <bleck> Sara22: i see.
[06:38] <CoJaBo> Trying to see if my other computer will beep: CoJaBo-Eee
[06:38] <BuildSmart> check chipset, it may require a little more work, seems that comes in prism, prism2, zydas and realtek chipset based on version number.
[06:38] <bleck> Sara22: well, i'm unsure about the store's return policy, but yeah, give it a go
[06:39] <prexium01> Hey all.
[06:39] <prexium01> This the room for server help?
[06:40] <CoJaBo> Is there a way to keep my Kubuntu from locking up when running graphics apps?
[06:41] <CoJaBo> Or at least recover from it?
[06:41] <Sara22> it froze my internet or I would paste it so you could see bleck
[06:42] <Sara22> can I paste it in here
[06:42] <bleck> msg me with it if its long
[06:42] <Sara22> thx bleck
[06:43] <CoJaBo> The screen won't do anything except move the mouse, but its still playing the sound from the video and it won't stop :/
[06:43] <bleck> or i think there's a #flood or something.
[06:43] <bleck> Sara22: yeah cdc_ether
[06:43] <bleck> Sara22: looks like its all good to go.
[06:44] <CoJaBo> Any ideas?
[06:44] <bleck> Sara22: I think you need to config your wireless networking now
[06:44] <Sara22> bleck: ok but the light on it is not on
[06:44] <Sara22> where do i configure it.. network under system right
[06:45] <bleck> Sara22: not sure, haven't configured one before, i'll try to find out for you
[06:45] <Sara22> thx bleck.  but it looks like under network the wireless isn't an option
[06:48] <bleck> i think knetworkmanager does it.. just trying to figure it out now
[06:48] <Sara22> bleck: i have ubuntu 8.04 hardy
[06:48] <CoJaBo> Is there something I can do to prevent freezing when running graphic apps?
[06:51] <bleck> Sara22: there's a little network icon in the system tray, seems to do wireless (its provided by knetworkmanager)
[06:51] <bleck> Sara22: not having a wireless card in this computer, i can't do much more
[06:51] <Sara22> bleck: thx bleck.  it looks like there is only wired option there
[06:52] <bleck> Sara22: theres gotta be a howto on this, one sec
[06:52] <favro> !wireless
[06:53] <bleck> there you go :)
[06:54] <Sara22> bleck: thx. ok i will go read some more
[06:56] <bleck> is there some utility like xkill that can identify what process handles a window?
[06:56] <bleck> like start proggy, drag over area, identify process?
[06:56] <bleck> (still trying to figure out how to uncorruptify my system tray)
[07:03] <matr1x> i dunno but thats an interesting idea
[07:06] <CoJaBo> Is there anything that can be done to recover from Kubuntu freezing?
[07:29] <favro> CoJaBo: you need tofind why it'sfreezing - if X freezes try ctrl+alt+F2 and type dmesg  to look for errors
[07:29] <favro> just too late
[07:29] <favro> maybe
[07:34] <marekt> hi how can i manualy edit ifconfig file
[07:34] <marekt> i mean i can edit it in nano for ex
[07:34] <marekt> but when i try to "ifup eth0"
[07:35] <marekt> it says:
[07:40] <katy> Hi - I'm trying to make my second internal hard disk mount on startup, but it's not working.  Can anyone suggest a way to make it work?
[07:42] <agent01> Hello
[07:43] <favro> katy: are you editing /etc/fstab for that?
[07:43] <katy> Yes, but it still won't automount.
[07:43] <favro> katy: can you paste the line from /etc/fstab you are trying with?
[07:44] <katy> favro: What options do you suggest I put in?  I notice "noauto" got put in, but I didn't put it there...
[07:44] <CoJaBo> favro: When it freezes, it is completely unresponsive to keyboard, including switching screens with ctrl+alt+F. Mouse moves, but does not respond to clicking. Responds to ping and sound keeps playing.
[07:44] <favro> katy: I don't know what filesystem it is or where you want it mounted
[07:45] <katy> favro: It's an old NTFS hard disk from this machine's former life as a Windoze box.  Mounting it with the name "Percheron-Extra" for historical reasons.  Current line is <</dev/sdb1 /media/Percheron-Extra auto users,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0>>
[07:45] <favro> CoJaBo: do you have an older kernel to boot into - does it happen in that one?
[07:46] <katy> (Except with noauto as well.  I just edited that a second ago.)
[07:47] <favro> katy: try - /dev/sdb1 /media/Percheron-Extra ntfs-3g users,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[07:49] <draik> Hello all. I keep getting this error when I try to play my backup DVDs... This DVD Video is encrypted. To be able to watch it you will need to install libdvdcss by running from a console: sudo /usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh. In some countries it is illegal to install the decryption software without permission from the video copyright holder.
[07:50] <katy> ... Umm, does anyone know how to paste from the clipboard into vim in a shell???  This fracking keyboard doesn't have a fracking insert key!!!
[07:51] <katy> Oh wait, never mind; konsole Edit menu.  D'oh.\
[07:51] <gs> merhaba
[07:51] <katy> OK, off I go to reboot.  If it works, thanks favro!
[07:52] <gs> banayardımcı olabilecek kimse var mı?
[07:52] <favro> draik: that says you need to install a codec - have you run that command?
[07:52] <gs> is there anyboady who can help me ?
[07:52] <draik> favro: Yes. Several times.
[07:52] <favro> katy: you just need to do   sudo mount -a
[07:52] <favro> hmmm
[07:53] <favro> !dvd
[07:53] <favro> draik: ^^
[07:56] <draik> favro: Thank you. There is an issue with the first link. There is a command "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh", but 'example' needs to be removed.
[07:57] <draik> favro: It still didn't work, BTW.
[07:57] <favro> draik: you might need to enable the medibuntu repo
[07:57] <favro> !medibuntu
[07:59] <Apple_cat> Hi, I just changed my kernal to rt, and now I can't open alsamixer, any ideas on where I should start trying to fix this ?
[08:01] <Apple_cat> Kmix opens without errors but there are no devices listed
[08:01] <draik> favro: I think that might do it. I don't recall removing medibuntu from my repos when I upgraded, but it may have happened. Thank you. I hope it works.
[08:03]  * favro hopes it does too :)
[08:07] <Apple_cat> ubuntuforums.org is down
[08:08] <Apple_cat> Do I need to set up alsa for the rt kernal, or will it just use the config from the generic kernal?
[08:08] <Apple_cat> Or could it be that my soundcard isn't actually being detected by the rt kernal
[08:09] <Apple_cat> But lspci shows it
[08:11] <draik> favro: No. It didn't work.
[08:12] <favro> draik: I would have to question the format the backup images are stored in then...
[08:13] <draik> iso
[08:13] <draik> favro: They are either saved as iso then burned or burned right after from k9copy.
[08:13] <favro> Apple_cat: does   aplay -l   return device used?
[08:14] <Apple_cat> 'no soundcards found...'
[08:14] <favro> draik: I have no experience with dvd movies backed up - I only use .avi's
[08:15] <draik> Thank you favro for your help. I will have to see what is going on with the DVD player Kaffeine
[08:15] <favro> Apple_cat: what does   lspci | grep audio   return?
[08:15] <favro> draik: sorry I couldn't help further :)
[08:16] <Apple_cat> favro:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/46805/
[08:16] <draik> favro: While my issue is not resolved, you did put me that much closer to the answer.
[08:18] <miriam> hello
[08:19] <Apple_cat> Hi miriam, how can we help you?
[08:20] <Apple_cat> -_- oh
[08:21] <favro> Apple_cat: does   lsmod | grep snd   get a response?
[08:22] <Apple_cat> no
[08:23] <favro> Apple_cat: k - you don't have a sound card driver - I'll google for the name of it
[08:24] <Apple_cat> Alsa-project.org is down, darn
[08:25] <favro> Apple_cat: that's an old card?
[08:25] <favro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCardsVia
[08:29] <Apple_cat> Yeah I think it's a few years old, still being made though
[08:31] <favro> Apple_cat: this site links to a forum post that might help - http://sysabuse.blogspot.com/
[08:35] <marekt> hi, i have problem with connecting to wifi connection
[08:35] <marekt> DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
[08:35] <marekt> this is what i get
[08:37] <Apple_cat> So now that I have the name of the driver I need, how can I get it to be used ?
[08:38] <holycow> hi guys
[08:38] <holycow> what controls the degradation in kde4 for effects rendering?
[08:38] <holycow> i have a good nvidia card that can do very ogl very well however turning on any of the effects results in nothing
[08:38] <holycow> any tips on what might not be running to get them to work?
[08:41] <favro> holycow: you know there is #kubuntu-kde4 for those questions?
[08:41] <favro> about kde4
[08:41] <favro> !kde4
[08:42] <holycow> oh right
[08:42] <favro> :)
[08:42] <holycow> thx
[08:42] <favro> np
[08:45] <Guest64869> [09:35] <marekt> hi, i have problem with connecting to wifi connection
[08:45] <Guest64869> [09:35] <marekt> DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
[08:45] <Guest64869> [09:35] <marekt> this is what i get
[08:47] <azel> hi
[08:48] <Apple_cat> favro: What was that link about? Should I just make a .../.asoundrc file the same as what is on the page ?
[08:49] <favro> Apple_cat: I didn't follow it - I hoped it would tell how to get your sound module installed
[08:50] <favro> Apple_cat: 'cause you have no sound module for your card -  lsmod | grep snd was to find that out
[08:51] <Apple_cat> Yep, and now I want to use 'ICE1724' as my sound driver. Any ideas on how to do this ?
[08:52] <favro> Apple_cat: if that is a module then   sudo modprobe -v "modulename"
[08:53] <lostererer> hello
[08:54] <lostererer> does usb wifi adapters work in kubuntu?
[08:54] <Apple_cat> I guess it's a driver rather than a module? Output was 'module * not found.'
[08:55] <lostererer> was that directed to me?
[08:55] <favro> Apple_cat: drivers are modules when you try to put them into the kernel - it will have a module name if it is one
[08:55] <lostererer> ah nevermind hhee
[08:55] <favro> !wifi | lostererer
[08:56] <favro> !hardware
[08:56] <lostererer> I got one that has linux drivers on it
[08:57] <lostererer> but it dont work
[08:57] <lostererer> I cannot compile wpa_supplicant
[08:58] <lostererer> it seems that the system is detecting it as a usb wifi in usb, but network section dont see it
[08:59] <lostererer> anyone tried wiBee ?
[08:59] <lostererer> usb wifi adapter?
[09:00] <lostererer> anyone tried compiling knetmanager?
[09:00] <zorglu__> q. i got a directory on a kubuntu and would like to share it as samba, what is the easiest way ?
[09:00] <HollowPoint> zorglu__: you'll need to install the samba server
[09:01] <HollowPoint> then if you're using kubuntu 8.04 with kde3.5.9 it's as simple as going into the control center and configuring a share
[09:01] <zorglu__> HollowPoint: cool this is what im running. looking at control center
[09:02] <NCommander> If I am a driver on a distribution on Launchpad, how can I add new releases and such so I can use the "Nominate for Release" link on bugs against our distribution?
[09:02] <lostererer> ubottu I believe it has a Realtek chipset in there so it is supported and the hardware came with the linux drivers and installation stuff
[09:02] <NCommander> er
[09:02] <HollowPoint> lostererer: why are you trying to compile knetmanager? Normally you should just plug the usb wifi adapter in to a USB port and Kubuntu should install the drivers for you, you may need to restart/log out and back infor changes to take effect but normally straight forward
[09:02] <favro> Apple_cat: sudo modprope -v snd-ice1724
[09:02] <NCommander> damn it
[09:02] <NCommander> Wrong room
[09:02] <zorglu__> HollowPoint: it is complaining on SMB not installed on my machine, which package is this ?.
[09:03] <HollowPoint> lostererer: ubottu is a bot
[09:03] <lostererer> HollowPoint knetmanager has the stuff that detects wireless networks..........no?
[09:03] <lostererer> lol ok
[09:03]  * zorglu__ is installing "samba" :)
[09:03] <Apple_cat> favro: again, it says the module is not found
[09:04] <Apple_cat> Sorry, not again to you, again to me
[09:04] <Apple_cat> ^^
[09:04] <lostererer> HollowPoint so I have to reboot the machine after loading the module ?
[09:04] <HollowPoint> lostererer: yes but it's already installed lostererer I'm not sure why you want to re-compile it?
[09:04] <lostererer> seems like I dont have knetmanager
[09:04] <lostererer> I gots kubuntu 6.10
[09:04] <favro> !find snd-ice1724
[09:04] <holycow> someone suggested earlier to reinstall, but that sorta isn't an option here.  what kde3 libraries can i uninstall that will pull most of kde3 with them?
[09:04] <lostererer> edgy
[09:05] <HollowPoint> ah ok lostererer I'd recommend upgrading to 8.04
[09:05] <lostererer> its not possible in 6.10?
[09:06] <lostererer> oh well I guess I need to wait
[09:06] <lostererer> thanks
[09:06] <lostererer> bye
[09:06] <HollowPoint> it's possible but seems like a lot of work for an outdated distro
[09:09] <Apple_cat> favro: result didn't find anything
[09:10] <favro> Apple_cat: I can't find anything on installing that module - its' name might have changed , how old was the post you found it on?
[09:12] <Apple_cat> I was going by this page http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Ice1724
[09:12] <favro> k
[09:16] <favro> Apple_cat: tried   sudo lshw   to identify the card? - should be near the end
[09:18] <Apple_cat> http://web.archive.org/web/20080120065707/http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-ice1724
[09:19] <Apple_cat>  VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]
[09:21] <favro> Apple_cat: just wanted to know why you thought that was the needed driver/module
[09:23] <favro> Apple_cat: and   modinfo soundcore   returns positive?
[09:24] <Apple_cat> Yeah
[09:25] <Apple_cat> I might have just thought that because I'm not so good with this stuff ^___^
[09:26] <Apple_cat> modinfo soundcore returns info on soundcore.ko
[09:26] <favro> Apple_cat: we al start out not so good with this stuff :)
[09:26] <favro> and   sudo lshw
[09:29] <Apple_cat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/46816/
[09:31] <Morphus> can anyone tell me what the default root password is?
[09:33] <Apple_cat> There is no default password
[09:34] <Morphus> well the password i entered at install didn't work and su with a empty password either
[09:34] <Morphus> cuz at install, it was for the account
[09:34] <Morphus> ... :-/
[09:34] <Apple_cat> so you can't gain root access with sudo
[09:35] <Morphus> is su a sudo?
[09:35] <Apple_cat> sudo as in sudo ^^
[09:36] <outbackwifi> hi there
[09:36] <Apple_cat> su won't work because there isn't a root account to su into
[09:36] <Morphus> ah
[09:37] <outbackwifi> !root
[09:37] <Morphus> so sudo is for launching commands with root priveleges?
[09:37] <stdin> Apple_cat: erm, 'sudo -i' or 'sudo -s' or "sudo su -" all give you a root shell
[09:37] <Morphus> thx
[09:37] <Morphus> cool, thx guys
[09:37] <tzd> hey guys and gals! Yesterday i tried installing winXp on my kubuntu installation. After a few hours i gave up and rewrote mbr with grub. I'm now inside kubuntu and everything works well apart from the partition info inside gparted. According to gparted my whole drive is unallocated? Can someone please help me get this straight?
[09:38] <outbackwifi> tzd: did you try installing winxp over kubuntu via vbox or vmware?
[09:38] <Guest64869> hi how can i install knetworkmanager for kde3?
[09:39] <outbackwifi> Guest64869: sudo apt-get install Knetworkmanager
[09:40] <Guest64869> but if i have kde4?
[09:41] <favro> Apple_cat: I can't find any help about your card ...
[09:42] <Apple_cat> No, neither can I
[09:42] <Apple_cat> It works fine on the generic kernal, so it's not a disaster
[09:43] <Eruaran> knetworkmanager works fine in kde4
[09:43] <outbackwifi> Guest64869: did you run that command and try to install?
[09:43] <Apple_cat> Thanks for all the help so far, I appreciate it : )
[09:43] <Apple_cat> @ favro
[09:44] <stdin> Guest64869: kde3 apps will still run in kde4, as long as the kde3 libs are installed
[09:44] <favro> np :)
[09:46] <Apple_cat> Well I'm swapping back to the generic kernal, brb
[09:48] <Guest64869>  outbackwifi i tried but it installed same kde4 version
[09:48] <Guest64869> Eruaran, you mean kde3 or kde4 version
[09:51] <tzd> outbackwifi: no
[09:52] <tzd> outbackwifi: although i have winXP on vmware
[09:52] <BuildSmart> favro, got a moment?
[09:54] <favro> BuildSmart: ping
[09:54] <BuildSmart> I built the kernel, issued make install, edited menu.lst but the kernel isn't booting.
[09:56] <favro> BuildSmart: I have to ask - it was sudo make install you issued?
[09:56] <BuildSmart> first thing I notice is that fter the install, no initrd.img-2.6.26-rc5 is installed.
[09:56] <BuildSmart> yes sudo was used.
[09:56] <favro> k
[09:56] <BuildSmart> despite my lack of knowledge of ubuntu, I can assure you I do have some clue how things are done.
[09:57] <favro> you should have seen at terminal something like "rebuilding initramfs" or similar
[09:57] <BuildSmart> form what command?
[09:57] <favro> make install
[09:57] <BuildSmart> will run it again.
[09:58] <BuildSmart> nope, sec, will paste response.
[09:59] <BuildSmart> http://acm.pastebin.com/d1fc6169a
[10:04] <BuildSmart> ideas?
[10:05] <favro> and /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-rc5 exists?
[10:05] <BuildSmart> yes
[10:05] <favro> I was afk for a min
[10:06] <favro> can i see the line in menu.lst for it?
[10:06] <chicco> italia
[10:06] <favro> *lines
[10:06] <favro> !it
[10:06] <BuildSmart> what does not exist is /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-rc5
[10:06] <BuildSmart> sure... sec.
[10:06] <favro> BuildSmart: hang on
[10:07] <favro> if it doesn't exist there's no point in pointing grub to it
[10:08] <marekt> hi, i tried to connect manually to my wifi network
[10:08] <marekt> but i get
[10:08] <BuildSmart> make and make install do not generate the initrd image
[10:08] <favro> BuildSmart: I would   sudo updatedb && locate vmlinuz-2.6.26-rc5
[10:08] <favro> k
[10:08] <marekt> DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20
[10:08] <BuildSmart> I can see vmlinuz-2.6.26-rc5 just fine.
[10:10] <BuildSmart> vmlinuz-2.6.26-rc5 exists in /boot
[10:11] <BuildSmart> what is supposed to generate the initrd image?
[10:11] <BuildSmart> cause whatever it is it's not working.
[10:12] <favro> havin a read
[10:13] <BuildSmart> most othe renvironments I work in are intelligent compared to ubuntu, maybe that's just the *BSD approach.
[10:14] <favro> you had to do the dpkg -i step yes?
[10:17] <favro> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-kernel/ - might give some clues
[10:18] <BuildSmart> what is dpkg doing?
[10:19] <virnik> BuildSmart: dpkg is installer for deb packages
[10:20] <BuildSmart> ok well if the kernel has not been built then why call it ?
[10:21] <BuildSmart> is ubuntu not intelligent enough to build a kernel that works without any user input?
[10:22] <favro> BuildSmart: the way it works is you build a kernel as a package then install it with dpkg - like the howtos say
[10:23] <BuildSmart> here's the issue before getting that far, issue make and it tells you to run menuconfig, menuconfig expects a answers to questions that should not be asked.
[10:24] <BuildSmart> then after the make/make install it fails to work.
[10:24] <BuildSmart> you are suggesting I now resorting to another approach to install it, this makes no sense, even from a programmers perspective.
[10:27] <BuildSmart> it has been suggested I use "debian/rules build" and "debian/rules install" however the source does not contain these directories so the suggestions have been ignored.
[10:28] <BuildSmart> I would expect that in building the kernel it uses the existing kernel configuration and defaults for everything else, decoding ethernet chipsets and video cards should not occur.
[10:28] <julien> Yop
[10:28] <outbackwifi> BuildSmart: please file a feature request
[10:29] <BuildSmart> curbackwifi: not likely
[10:29] <julien> How can i connect Quakenet ??
[10:29] <outbackwifi> BuildSmart: this channel is only for support
[10:29] <favro> BuildSmart: that'll be something to take up with the kernel builders in #kernel maybe :)
[10:29] <ghostcube> julien: xchat quakenet ?
[10:29] <julien> Yes
[10:29] <BuildSmart> really, ok what is the magic command to build a kernel without any user input?
[10:29] <ghostcube> julien: new server tab
[10:30] <ghostcube> then just open network list
[10:30] <ghostcube> connect to it
[10:30] <julien> Ok
[10:30] <julien> Thx ;)
[10:30] <julien> Bye !:
[10:30] <BuildSmart> once built instead of make install I should use "dpkg -i ?????"
[10:31] <favro> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-kernel/ - might give some clues
[10:32] <BuildSmart> why am I being told to use "debain/rules build" when it doesn't exist, why is building a kernel more compilcated than issuing a single command.
[10:32] <outbackwifi> BuildSmart: no one has answers to rhetorical questions
[10:33] <BuildSmart> rhetorical question???  you can't be serious in implying that ubuntu is to prehistoric to figure anything out on it's on.
[10:34] <outbackwifi> BuildSmart: please go to ubuntu-offtopic to discuss philosophy
[10:34] <favro> I think you are confusing ubuntu and linux there
[10:35]  * outbackwifi wonders if people even know the meaning of GIGO
[10:35] <BuildSmart> I need the kernel to be configured like the initial kernel installed by ubuntu
[10:35] <favro> BuildSmart: ok - do you know the kernel number that was?
[10:35] <BuildSmart> 2.6.26-rc5
[10:36] <BuildSmart> the initial kernel installed by 8.04 is 2.6.24-18
[10:36] <BuildSmart> sorry -16
[10:40] <favro> BuildSmart: do you have the source for that kernel so you can use its' config?
[10:40] <BuildSmart> source, it was an install form the CD, is it build during the install process?
[10:41] <BuildSmart> in /boot I see config-2.6.24-16-generic
[10:42] <BuildSmart> a second rebuild has been completed from start to finish (dual quad core 3ghz Xeon's) using the defaults set by "make menuconfig" there are no .deb packages created and the command "make dpkg" is invallid
[10:42] <BuildSmart> obviously "make install" does not perform a complete install process
[10:44] <favro> it seems you've missed a step or two - can you read through the steps here - http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-kernel/
[10:46] <BuildSmart> favvro: you keep pointing me to that doc, I have tried it, it was unsuccessful in two attempts executed (verbatim) so I've given up on it like many who have gone befor eme.
[10:46] <outbackwifi> like this --> makeroot make-kpkg –initrd –append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers
[10:46] <outbackwifi> like this --> fakeroot make-kpkg –initrd –append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers
[10:46] <outbackwifi> oops
[10:47] <BuildSmart> it was issued
[10:47] <outbackwifi> This process will create two .deb files in /usr/src that contain the kernel
[10:47] <BuildSmart> unfortunately no .deb files were created.
[10:48] <outbackwifi> did you get any errors?
[10:48] <BuildSmart> make install was issued, everything appears to be in place except for initrd.img-2.6.26-rc5
[10:48] <outbackwifi> i dont see any instructions for make install there
[10:48] <BuildSmart> how could I tell, in a dual 3ghz quad core machine it scrolls so fast you can't read it.
[10:49] <outbackwifi> installation is done like this --> dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.17.14-ubuntu1-custom_2.6.17.14-ubuntu1-custom-10.00.Custom_i386.deb
[10:49] <outbackwifi> BuildSmart: if your make failed, it wouldve done with errors
[10:49] <BuildSmart> and the .deb file is supposed to be in /usr/src and it's not there.
[10:49] <outbackwifi> BuildSmart: no matter how fast your machine was
[10:50] <BuildSmart> the make does not fail with an error
[10:50] <BuildSmart> since no .deb is generated I issued make install.
[10:51] <outbackwifi> BuildSmart: did you create the symbolic link from the kernel src tree to linux?
[10:51] <BuildSmart> yes ln -s "linux-2.6.26-rc5 linux"
[10:51] <BuildSmart> yes "ln -s linux-2.6.26-rc5 linux"
[10:52] <outbackwifi> and when you issued that fakeroot line, everything scrolled by too fast and came back to the prompt?
[10:52] <RenzoreK> Are the ubuntu forums down>
[10:52] <BuildSmart> yup
[10:53] <BuildSmart> the entire source after the configure builds in 4 mins and 11 seconds.
[10:54] <outbackwifi> would it be possible for you to pastebin the last 10 lines from the end?
[10:55] <BuildSmart> just started a new build so if you give it 4 minutes yes.
[10:55] <outbackwifi> ok
[10:56] <outbackwifi> the other way (common to all distributions) is to issue a make mrproper; make menuconfig; configure whatever you want; make bzImage; and then look into the arch/i386/boot/ folder for the new kernel in bzImage form
[10:57] <BuildSmart> I saw those instruction on another howto but didn't try them.
[10:58] <BuildSmart> I can interupt and try them is you recommend as a better build nmethod.
[10:58] <outbackwifi> make modules_install would install the modules and copying the bzImage to /boot creating initrd image and making an appropriate  entry in menu.lst should enable you to boot your new kernel
[10:58] <outbackwifi> BuildSmart: I believe that gives you more control; building a package is great for redistribution.
[11:00] <BuildSmart> ok I'll stop and find those instructions and give them a whirl.
[11:01] <outbackwifi> great
[11:03] <icelab> hi there is someone??
[11:04] <Tallken> icelab: nop
[11:04] <outbackwifi> !ask | icelab
[11:04] <icelab> my problem is konqueror 3.5 don't work whit flash
[11:04] <outbackwifi> !flash
[11:05] <icelab> yes on youtube the video don't start
[11:05] <outbackwifi> icelab: does it tell you that you need plugins?
[11:06] <icelab> a windows say me that i have same problem whit khtml
[11:06] <icelab> no i have installed nofree plug in
[11:06] <icelab> infact whit firefox i have not trouble
[11:11] <BuildSmart> outbackwifi: the build is almost complete.
[11:12] <icelab> ?????
[11:12] <RenzoreK> Anyway to have wifi connect automatically?
[11:13] <BuildSmart> outback, will this kernel work on any CPU or will it be specific to my machine now?
[11:13] <outbackwifi> icelab: you can try in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:14] <outbackwifi> BuildSmart: that entirely depends on what you configured in the make menuconfig stage
[11:14] <BuildSmart> ok it says it's starting to build a package
[11:14] <BuildSmart> I accepted all the defaults.
[11:14] <outbackwifi> RenzoreK: knetworkmanager does automatically
[11:15] <outbackwifi> BuildSmart: then it must work on all x86 machines (you could run make menuconfig again to check )
[11:15] <BuildSmart> what amazes me is that building the kenrel uses 20gb of disk space.
[11:16] <BuildSmart> outback, menuconfig had no settings changes, I exited when it came up accepting all the deaults.
[11:16] <skole> Hi im trying to run innotec virtualbox as a virtual machine. I have kubuntu on my laptop, but I want to run ubuntu as a virtual machine. I get a error message back when I try to set up the machine:
[11:16] <skole> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Re-setup the kernel module by executing '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root.
[11:16] <skole> VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).
[11:18] <favro> skole: tried sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup ?
[11:20] <RenzoreK> outbackwifi: How do I get to that setting? I always seem to have to select the access point I need to get it connecting
[11:20] <skole> yes I have, then i returns: Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went wrong
[11:21] <favro> skole: did you install the headers for your kernel?
[11:22] <skole> No I'm sorry, but what is that?
[11:22] <favro> you need them for vbox to install properly - it's  in the readme
[11:24] <skole> ok, its some time since I installed Vbox, but I have run it with Windows before. Since last time I have upgradet my Kubuntu of course
[11:25] <BuildSmart> ok outback, got 2 .deb files, now what?
[11:27] <favro> skole: uname -r to find kernel number then sudo apt-get install linux-headers-"kernel number"
[11:30] <favro> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` works too
[11:31] <skole> It returs that I have the newest version of linux-headers all ready.
[11:32] <favro> did /var/log/vbox-install.log give a clue?
[11:33] <skole> how can i look at that log?
[11:33] <outbackwifi> BuildSmart: run these two commands and replace the kernel versions appropriately -->     dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.17.14-ubuntu1-custom_2.6.17.14-ubuntu1-custom-10.00.Custom_i386.deb
[11:33] <outbackwifi>     dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.17.14-ubuntu1-custom_2.6.17.14-ubuntu1-custom-10.00.Custom_i386.deb
[11:34] <BuildSmart> done
[11:34] <TheCan> hi, is there also an kubuntu-intrepid alpha channel here ?
[11:34] <favro> you can browse to it with dolphin - next to the K menu launcher or in konsole   nano /var/log/vbox-install.log
[11:35] <favro> !intrepid | TheCan
[11:35] <outbackwifi> now if you reboot, you should do so with the new kernel; i would advise you to edit your menu.lst and ensure that your previous kernel entry is also present in case this one doesnt work
[11:38] <BuildSmart> KP.
[11:38] <BuildSmart> but further ahead of the game.
[11:38] <eric> ?
[11:41] <thor> hi guys. i have a little problem. when i try to use nvidia geforce 6 series it crashes my x server
[11:42] <thor> i have a geforce 6600gt graphic card. it only works well when i use nvidia drivers
[11:42] <skole> favro: It  says somthing like: echo: "ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid." include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing$ Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it
[11:42] <thor> when i change to nvidia geforce 6 series it changes automatically to nv driver.
[11:43] <thor> am i making some mistakes ?
[11:43] <favro> skole: all i can suggest is to Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it - you might need the build-essential package to do it
[11:44] <favro> skole: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[11:44] <wesley_> !adeptfix
[11:45] <skole> favro: kubuntu 8.04
[11:45] <favro> k
[11:46] <Attila489> How do i set mozilla as my default web browser ?
[11:46] <Attila489> konkeror only krashes
[11:46] <skole> favro: what command must I use to 'make oldconfig...'
[11:47] <favro> skole: make oldconfig is the command :)
[11:47] <Freku> isnt that the command ?
[11:48] <thor> attila849: go in edit>preferences and in general tab check always check to see if firefox...
[11:48] <favro> make oldconfig && make prepare means run make oldconfig and when it's done run make prepare
[11:48] <thor> from advanced....:)
[11:49] <Attila489> thanks thor ! :)
[11:49] <favro> Freku: I had to uninstall konq to make ff the default - but that doesn't seem to be normal
[11:50] <thor> u welcome :)
[11:50] <favro> oops sorry Freku
[11:51] <skole> make *** No rule to make taget 'oldconfig'. Stop
[11:51] <Freku> :)
[11:52] <favro> skole: my experience is limited with that - maybe outbackwifi can help again?
[11:52] <outbackwifi> skole: sorry what?
[11:53] <skole> outbackwifi: Im trying to get my Vbox up and running with Ubuntu
[11:53] <outbackwifi> ok
[11:54] <outbackwifi> skole: what seems to be the issue?
[11:55] <skole> outbackwifi: VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).
[11:56] <outbackwifi> skole: when i last played with vbox, you had to install the vbox driver which comes with the package
[11:56] <mewmew> i have a silly question
[11:56] <mewmew> on my KDE, when ever my mouse scrolls to the bottom of the desktop
[11:56] <mewmew> it goes to the next window
[11:56] <mewmew> i don't know how i got it to do that
[11:56] <mewmew> anyone know how to stop it?
[11:56] <outbackwifi> skole: modprobe -v vboxdrv (dont remember the name of the module)
[11:56] <skole> outbackwifi: what is the command?
[11:56] <outbackwifi> mewmew: are you running compiz
[11:57] <mewmew> i turned off compiz
[11:57] <mewmew> i thought it was compiz also
[11:57] <outbackwifi> skole: try sudo modprobe -v vboxdrv
[11:57] <mewmew> so i made a new file with compiz and turned off everything
[11:57] <mewmew> i've got animated icons and when my mouse gets to the bottom of the screen it goes to the next desktop
[11:58] <mewmew> (its kinda annoying)
[11:58] <skole> outbackwifi: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found
[11:58] <outbackwifi> hangon let me ask my friend google
[12:00] <outbackwifi> skole: what version of vbox did you install?
[12:01] <skole> hmm... I installed it in febuary...wait just a second
[12:01] <outbackwifi> skole: this might help --> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=6566&highlight=verrvmdrivernotinstalled
[12:03]  * outbackwifi gotta go and get on  a flight; bye everyone
[12:03] <skole> Its VirtualBox 1.5.2 r25433 linux.x86
[12:20] <skole> What is the command for editing a file 'etc/init.d/vboxdrv
[12:21] <skole> Error: no write permission for file "etc/init.d/vboxdrv"
[12:22] <favro> skole: kdesu kate /etc/init.d/vboxdrv
[12:24] <BuildSmart> ok found instructions that gave me the two .deb files, installed them but wifi doesn't work, dmesg complains about unknown symbols. not impressive results
[12:26] <BuildSmart> so far, like amny others, the people writing how-to's must be leaving out some important information and the people writing these install/build scripts need to obtian some higher education.
[12:27] <clebson> ALGUM brasilerio
[12:28] <jussi01> !br
[12:36] <clebson> Jussio, tudo bem?
[12:37] <clebson> vc e experiente com Linux, sou novato e estou tendo dificuldade para instalar o broffice 3 rc1 na minha maquina
[12:38] <jussi01> clebson: I only speak english. please type: /join #ubuntu-br
[12:43] <clebson> Obrigado amigo
[13:07] <NEWB> hi guys, does anyone use openoffice? i have a prob, i know is offtopic but someone might know... when using the "outline" effect on black coloured text, it turns it into white coloured one with a black outline, how do i do the opposite? (black text with white outline, because it's over a backgound image i'll be able to see this white outline and it makes sense) anyone can help? thx
[13:25] <juan> can a livecd find itself on an ntfs drive?
[13:26] <favro> I would like to know too :)
[13:29] <juan> i think mine was getting found when i was using the 'wrong' vmlinuz and intrid.gz but if i extract the ones on the cd it cant see it :s
[13:51] <RenzoreK> How do I change the K menu button in KDE
[13:52] <favro> I saw an option in kcontrol for that
[13:52] <Attonde> change your icons ;)
[13:53] <Attonde> systemsettings
[13:55] <favro> nope I was wrong - button background was what it was
[14:25] <jarlaxle> hi all
[14:35] <ph>  Hi there, i'm desperatly looking for the equivalent kubuntu command for "update-manager -d" to test intrepid
[14:35] <ph> does it exist ?
[14:37] <favro> !intrepid
[14:42] <ph> favro: is that destined to me ?
[14:43] <favro> ph: the #ubuntu+1 bit
[14:44] <favro> thought it might help
[14:44] <ph> ok thanks
[14:50] <LeeJunFan> okay, lancelot has me hooked on kde4 now - there's no looking back.
[15:02] <patrick> hi
[15:02] <Guest31449> quit
[15:03] <gyach> hi
[15:31] <Schuenemann> hello
[15:33] <Denise> Bee
[15:34] <TimS> Could someone help me set up Samba? It used to work, but now nothing shows up.
[15:34] <TimS> I have even turned off the firewall on the windows PC and nothing shows up
[15:36] <sanka> hi
[15:56] <eyzee> hi guys...
[15:56] <eyzee> do i really need an antivirus for my ubuntu os?
[15:57] <Schuenemann> no
[15:57] <Schuenemann> why would you?
[15:57] <eyzee> so is it 100% safe from online virus?
[15:58] <_222AnA222_> hi :) How can I restore the kde main bar I use kde 4 thx
[15:58] <Schuenemann> unless you run something yourself, yes
[15:58] <eyzee> thanks
[16:01] <akash> Does any one help me.I m newbie
[16:04] <jussi01> akash: ask your question :)
[16:06] <akash> I m having problem in browsing. Apart from Konqueror ,other browser donot able to detect Ethernet. (Opera or Firefox)
[16:07] <jussi01> akash: are you sure they are not set to offline mode?
[16:08] <akash> Ya... i m still browsing thru Konqueror. But not with Opera  :'(
[16:10] <akash> My ifconfig
[16:10] <akash> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:EA:E1:C3:4E          inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0          inet6 addr: fe80::20f:eaff:fee1:c34e/64 Scope:Link          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1          RX packets:11940 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0          TX packets:10492 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000          RX bytes:12766107 (12.1 MB)  TX bytes:1
[16:10] <akash> Interrupt:20lo        Link encap:Local Loopback          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[16:11] <akash> And here is my Routing entries Kernel IP routing tableDestination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0link-local      *               255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth0default         mygateway1.ar7  0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[16:12] <ign0ramus> !pastebin | akash
[16:14] <akash> Thanks ubottu...I 'll definitely remember that
[16:14] <jussi01> ubottu is a bot
[16:15] <akash> PLEASE what abt my problem???
[16:16] <ign0ramus> akash: if you can connect to the Internet with Konqueror, your OS has properly negotiated your connection.  It's most likely a configuration error with your other browser(s)
[16:17] <ign0ramus> akash: were you able to acccess the internet with firefox before?
[16:17] <akash> No...
[16:17] <ofv> akash: are you connecting through a proxy?
[16:18] <akash> I hv also tried it 192.168.1.2:3128 but all in vain.May be port number was wrong
[16:18] <ign0ramus> akash: you can't connect to your router, or you can't connect to the internet?
[16:19] <Schuenemann> akash, wrong proxy settings?
[16:19] <ign0ramus> Schuenemann: that's what it's looking like...
[16:20] <akash> I can connect to my Router...but problem is that both the browser cannot automatically connect to INternet
[16:20] <ign0ramus> akash: are you able to connect without using a proxy?
[16:21] <akash> No...
[16:21] <akash> I m using Kubuntu 7.10
[16:22] <ign0ramus> akash: well, you're on a wired connection.  what if you took the router out of the equation- direct ethernet to the computer...
[16:23] <akash> The phone line is connected to DSL router
[16:23] <fcd> hi, does kubuntu 8.04 have and support ndiswrapper?
[16:24] <ign0ramus> fcd: you can use ndiswrapper in 8.04
[16:24] <ign0ramus> akash: do you need to use a proxy?  can you not just use a direct connection to the internet?
[16:24] <ign0ramus> !ndiswrapper | fcd
[16:25] <akash> I hv tried direct connection to Internet in both the browser.But they can't able to open any of webpage.
[16:25] <Schuenemann> akash, are you using a proxy or not?
[16:26] <akash> No
[16:26] <ofv> akash: In Konqueror, go to menu Settings -> Configure Konqueror, click on Proxy on the left pane and tell us what is checked on the righ pane.
[16:27] <akash> Konqueror   : Connect to Internet Directly
[16:27] <ofv> akash: that means you are not using a proxy.
[16:27] <ign0ramus> akash: can you visit "  216.239.59.104  " in firefox?
[16:28] <akash> It shows Firefox cannot find server
[16:30] <ign0ramus> akash: i'm wondering if its an /etc/hosts issue...
[16:30] <akash> Shall I send u that also
[16:31] <ofv> akash: in Opera, see if menu File -> Work Offline is checked
[16:31] <akash> No
[16:31] <ign0ramus> akash: pastebin your /etc/hosts
[16:32] <akash> http://paste.ubuntu.com/46894/
[16:32] <ign0ramus> akash: well, that looks fine
[16:33] <akash> Then wat can be issue???
[16:34] <ign0ramus> akash: have you tried disabling IPv6 in Firefox?
[16:34] <akash> How should I do that
[16:35] <ign0ramus> akash: about:confg > type in 'ipv6' in filter bar > set to disable
[16:35] <ign0ramus> akash: then restart firefox
[16:36] <akash> It was already diabled
[16:37] <ign0ramus> akash: it says "disable" = "true"?
[16:38] <ign0ramus> akash: because by default, it is enabled, unless the settings were tweaked
[16:39] <akash> It shows      status=default value=true preferencename=network.dns.disableIPV6
[16:39] <jussi01> so its enabled...
[16:39] <jussi01> or?
[16:40] <akash> Is it enabled??
[16:41] <ign0ramus> akash: in Edit > preferences > advanced > network > configure how firefox connects to the internet, what settings do you have applied?
[16:42] <akash> Auto detect proxy settings for this Network
[16:42] <ign0ramus> akash: what if you change it to "direct connection" or "no proxy" or whatever and restart firefox?
[16:43] <akash> Same problem.... :'(
[16:44] <cilkay> Hello. How can I get Kubuntu to behave the same way as Ed/Ubuntu when a CD/DVD with a Ubuntu or variant is inserted into the DVD player? In Ed/Ubuntu, I get a dialog that asks me if I want to start the addon manager, which enables me to browse the packages and install the packages of my choice.
[16:45] <cilkay> E.g. that's how I added many of the apps in the Ubuntu Studio distro to Ubuntu.
[16:45] <cilkay> ... including the rt kernel
[16:51] <akash> Well ....thanks for your interest.It seems I have to use Konqueror only . :-(
[16:52] <akash> Can U tell me which port does router use to connect to Internet.May be I can connect via proxy
[16:55] <ign0ramus> akash: port 80 is http and port 443 is https, but i don't think this is going to help your problem
[16:55] <ign0ramus> akash: i think you have an improper configuration, either within your router or with your system
[16:58] <akash> YOu are right...nothing happens...
[16:58] <ign0ramus> akash: when did you install kubuntu?
[16:59] <akash> REcently,I have ordered Kubuntu CD.Though I have got it on February.I hv installed it in previous month
[17:00] <ign0ramus> akash: Can you access internet with firefox using the livecd?
[17:01] <akash> I hv downloaded firefox...it was not available on LiveCD
[17:02] <ign0ramus> akash: i thought it was, but either way, if you install firefox using the livecd, can you connect?  I would suspect you could, which means there is something wrong with your network settings
[17:02] <akash> HOw does I check wether it was available on LiveCD??
[17:02] <ign0ramus> akash: i mean if you can't, then its probably a problem with your network settings (most likely the router)
[17:03] <ign0ramus> akash: boot to the livecd, check to see if firefox is a program under "internet"; if not, then install it.
[17:03] <akash> Wat bt Konqueror?
[17:03] <ign0ramus> akash: wat bt it?
[17:05] <akash> Ok i m checking....Another problem is abt Konqueror. I cannot able to send scrap form Orkut,though i hv enabled Javascript
[17:05] <ign0ramus> akash: do you have Java installed?
[17:05] <akash> Yup
[17:06] <ign0ramus> akash: that could be a lot of things, and i know nothing about Orkut... lets try to fix one thing at a time
[17:07] <alper> hi guys I am having troble with wireless. I installed 8.04.1 and did the restricted drivers thing, fetched and extracted firmware but I can see any networks
[17:08] <akash> Thanls ign0ramus and others for your interest and time.I have to attend my AI class.I shall catch U soon with same and some other problems.Bye
[17:08] <ign0ramus> akash: goodbye
[17:08] <ign0ramus> alper: output of " iwconfig " please
[17:08] <ign0ramus> in pastebin
[17:10] <alper> ign0ramus: posted
[17:10] <ign0ramus> alper: if you gave the url, it might help ;)
[17:10] <alper> http://pastebin.com/m4bdf4eb2
[17:11] <ign0ramus> alper: well, your card is detected, which is good...
[17:11] <ign0ramus> alper: are you using Knetworkmanager?
[17:11] <icelab> hi. guys konqueror don't work well whit flash
[17:11] <alper> yes Knetworkmanager
[17:12] <icelab> is it possible reinstall everythings
[17:12] <ign0ramus> alper: but you're saying if you right-click the icon, it does not list any Networks?
[17:12] <alper> yes it says "no wireless networks found"
[17:12] <ign0ramus> alper: you're at a cafe?
[17:13] <icelab> because i have delete every plugin in the configure box
[17:13] <alper> I am trying to use my own network now I am using cable connection
[17:13] <Nakkel> Any plans to fix the Kubuntu homepage so it works with Konqueror? Can't click the download link there.
[17:14] <ign0ramus> alper: is your network encrypted?
[17:14] <alper> yes I have encryption key
[17:15] <ign0ramus> alper: try without encryption... Knetworkmanager is still a little weird with encrytpion (especially WPA)
[17:15] <vikku> i am doing `sudo shutdown -y -i0 now but my comp never shut down , using whatsoever form of shtudown cmd ....
[17:15] <icelab> sorry nakkel you wont that konqueror open the first page on kubuntu
[17:16] <ign0ramus> vikku: try ' sudo shutdown -P now '
[17:16] <alper> but I cant see anything to click to select the network
[17:16] <ign0ramus> alper: i know, we're going to enter your SSID manually
[17:16] <vikku> ign0ramus: ok
[17:16] <alper> ok
[17:17] <alper> it was working fine last night but when I turned on today it happened
[17:18] <ign0ramus> alper: stupid question - you do have wireless enabled in Knetworkmanager, and you do have your wireless turned on on the computer, right?
[17:18] <Nakkel> icelab: I mean http://www.kubuntu.org, it renders wrong the download link area. Text is too big and the buttons are not clickable.
[17:19] <alper> I have the wireless light on
[17:19] <alper> I have another notebook using the network now
[17:19] <icelab> try to change the monitor definition
[17:20] <ign0ramus> alper: and on this computer, Knetworkmanager > Options > Enable Wireless is active, right?
[17:20] <alper> yes it's on
[17:20] <ign0ramus> icelab: have you checked it in Konqueror?  i get the same thing
[17:20] <ign0ramus> alper: ok, let me know when you've removed the encryption
[17:22] <Nakkel> icelab: Every other site works just fine, and the rest of the kubuntu.org site is also fine. Only the download buttons are messed up.
[17:22] <ign0ramus> Nakkel: confirmed.  i don't know why it's like that
[17:22] <alper> I turned it off
[17:22] <darrell> hello
[17:23] <ign0ramus> alper: ok, exit knetworkmanager, and restart it
[17:24] <alper> ign0ramus: I restarted
[17:24] <ign0ramus> alper: ok, upon right clicking, can you "Connect to other wireless network"?
[17:25] <alper> ok I did do you want me to fill in t he info
[17:25] <ign0ramus> alper: yup, and make sure you have the proper card listed for 'device'
[17:26] <ign0ramus> alper: all you should need is your SSID to connect
[17:26] <alper> well it says unknown unknown (wlan0) that is the only option
[17:26] <ign0ramus> alper: hmmm.. that would be a problem.  for some reason, knetworkmanager is not using your card.
[17:28] <ign0ramus> alper: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[17:28] <alper> broadcom bcm4318
[17:29] <ign0ramus> do you have sthe b43-fwcutter driver installed?
[17:30] <alper> yes it's installed
[17:30] <alper> I can see that is activated in the restricted drivers
[17:31] <sridhar> hi need help with opening a pdf in ubuntu
[17:31] <artur_> Hi, how do i remove effectively the Amarok? After this I will re-install it, to some problems get solved, but i've tried a complete uninstall in many ways, but after re-installing i could note that my playlist was as a left it, and even a plugin that i installed for amarok was still installed too. How could i remove, and after re-installing make the amarok looks like its first time in my kubuntu.
[17:31] <sridhar> hi need help with opening a pdf in ubuntu
[17:31] <ign0ramus> alper: do you have wpasupplicant installed/
[17:32] <alper> mmm how can I check it
[17:32] <ign0ramus> alper: 'sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant'
[17:32] <sridhar> hi need help with opening a pdf in ubuntu had downloaded the file thru Azureus
[17:32] <ign0ramus> !pdf | sridhar
[17:33] <alper> yes its installed
[17:33] <ign0ramus> alper: ok......
[17:33] <sridhar> ubottu : dont have adobe reader or the others!
[17:34] <ign0ramus> sridhar: that's why you install them.  There are four different programs listed. just pick one.
[17:34] <ign0ramus> alper: did your card work out of the box before?
[17:34] <ign0ramus> alper: or did you have to use ndiswrapper and a windows driver?
[17:34] <edju> I removed/purged screenlets.  Now, upon startuo of kde, I get a msg that kdeinit could not find screenlets-daemon.py.  Of course not!  From where is kde looking for that file?
[17:35] <alper> I was using b43 to use it in fact it was working smoothly last night
[17:35] <alper> by the way I never used ndiswrapper
[17:36] <ign0ramus> alper: perhaps a reboot in recovery mode will restart your knetworkmanager to recognize your card.  it sounds stupid, but it has worked for me in the past...
[17:36] <ign0ramus> edju: /usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-daemon.py
[17:37] <ign0ramus> edju: or you can restart with an empty session, and the message should go away
[17:37] <alper> ok I will try that if it doesnt work I will back thanks for the help
[17:39] <constrictor> is there a way to integrate my google calendar with KDE pim
[17:40] <edju> ign0ramus, screenlets-daemon.py is long gone.  I still get the error.  I don't know what in kde is looking for it.
[17:40] <ign0ramus> constrictor: http://www.chipbennett.net/wordpress/index.php/2008/06/how-to-synchronize-kde-pim-with-google-calendar/
[17:41] <ign0ramus> edju: check in /home/user/.kde/Autostart - are there any screenlet scripts in there?
[17:41] <ign0ramus> alper: any luck?
[17:41] <icelab> hi, is it possible reconfigure konqueror
[17:41] <alper> nope still the same
[17:42] <ign0ramus> alper: the only other thing i can think of is to try wicd instead of knetworkmanager...
[17:42] <icelab> i have "work" in plugin konfigure area and now i have delete all plugin andress
[17:42] <alper> can I apt-get it
[17:42] <ign0ramus> alper: yup
[17:42] <ign0ramus> alper: it will remove knewtworkmanager, but you can always reinstall (not like it's helping anyway...)
[17:44] <alper> ign0ramus: do I have to add any repository to be able to install it because it says coulndt find the package
[17:44] <ign0ramus> alper: wait, i think you need to have the wicd repo first
[17:44] <ign0ramus> :)
[17:44] <alper> :)
[17:45] <edju> ign0ramus, Uhh, well - yes, that was it.  But I mean, who'd have thought to look in Autostart to find things that autostart?   Thanks.
[17:45] <ign0ramus> alper: 'sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[17:45] <ign0ramus> edju: np.  glad you got it sorted out!
[17:45] <ign0ramus> alper: add 'deb http://apt.wicd.net hardy extras' at the bottom
[17:46] <sridhar> is there an adobe reader for 64-bit
[17:46] <ign0ramus> alper: save file and close.  then 'sudo apt-get update'
[17:47] <ign0ramus> alper: then 'sudo apt-get install wicd'
[17:47] <icelab> qual'e il canali italiano di kubuntu?
[17:47] <alper> now it's OK
[17:47] <ign0ramus> !it | icelab
[17:47] <ign0ramus> alper: now what's ok?
[17:48] <sridhar> is there an adobe reader for 64-bit
[17:49] <sridhar> also need an application that can open .rar file on ubuntu!
[17:49] <sridhar> heard there is some 7up application not sure if it works on ubuntu on a 64-bit processor
[17:50] <ign0ramus> sridhar: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[17:50] <ign0ramus> sridhar: and i'm assuming you mean p7zip
[17:52] <sridhar> ignoramus am using ubuntu
[17:53] <sridhar> could be p7 zip is that good for ubuntu
[17:53] <ign0ramus> sridhar: then you should chat in #ubuntu, as you will be wanting apps for gnome
[17:53] <ign0ramus> sridhar: p7zip is good, as is unrar... but you'd be better off in #ubuntu
[17:54] <asiyan> ign0ramus: this is alper I lost all my connection after installing wicd
[17:54] <ign0ramus> asiyan: did you restart the computer?
[17:54] <asiyan> I restarted kde
[17:54] <asiyan> now I am restarting
[17:55] <ign0ramus> asiyan: ok
[17:56] <icelab> hi, someone can help me??
[17:56] <cilkay> How do I install the HTML and CSS docs for kdewebdev using apt? I didn't see any likely installation candidates.
[17:56] <cilkay> More correctly, I'm looking for the documentation *for* HTML and CSS.
[17:56] <ign0ramus> cilkay: if you use 'aptitude', it's better at naming likely candidates
[17:57] <cilkay> I'm not even sure what to look for though.
[17:58] <ign0ramus> cilkay: i'm not sure what you need, either, but see if this helps: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdewebdev/4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy1
[18:04] <cilkay> I guess I'll just have to install the docs using the tarball because they aren't packaged in kdewebdev.
[18:05] <ign0ramus> cilkay: that's kind of dumb, but at least you found them
[18:05] <asiyan> ign0ramus: I cant get connected wıth WICD either
[18:05] <cilkay> The docs are accessible from within Quanta so they're not an external package.
[18:05] <ign0ramus> asiyan: it does not recognize your card either?
[18:06] <asiyan> no luck
[18:07] <LiveToWin> hi! somebody help me! i`ve got a laptop toshiba a100, have problems with s2ram, it goes to s2ram, but won`t get out...
[18:07] <ign0ramus> asiyan: what does kinfocenter show under 'network interfaces'?
[18:08] <asiyan> just lo nothing else
[18:08] <ign0ramus> asiyan: but you're saying you had full wireless yesterday with your upgrade to 8.04.1?
[18:09] <ign0ramus> brb
[18:09] <cilkay> I wish I could just hide the "documentation" button in Quanta. The docs seem to be old an unmaintained. E.g. PHP, not that I care about it, is stuck back in PHP4.
[18:10] <asiyan> I was using 8.04.1 yesterday too but suddenly this thing happened today and early afternoon I reinstalled
[18:10] <cilkay> I just don't want the users clicking on the "Documentation" button and getting confused when none of the links to the docs work.
[18:11] <ign0ramus> asiyan: i don't know what else to tell you... it seems like an issue with the distro not recognizing the card, which is weird, especially if it did yesterday
[18:12] <asiyan> I am going to try ubuntu to see i
[18:12] <asiyan> f it works
[18:15] <asiyan> ign0ramus: I tried to connect manually now I have wlan0 in network interfaces window in Kinfocenter
[18:16] <m_tadeu> hi everyon...has anyone tryed to change back from the dek4 background folder view?
[18:19] <jussi01> m_tadeu: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[18:26] <frederik_> hi
[18:26] <m_tadeu> jussi01: thanks  :)
[18:26] <herbaliser> how do i change login manager in kubuntu
[18:27] <DarkriftX> ever since I installed my nvidia restricted drivers, I cannot change tty or "logout" to command line because I get resolution problems. is there something I need to change to fix this?
[18:27] <KRF> herbaliser, i think its `dpkg-reconfigure xdm`
[18:27] <KRF> herbaliser, i think its `dpkg-reconfigure kdm`
[18:28] <KRF> no. meh
[18:28] <LeeJunFan> herbaliser: you need to edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager to point to the display manager you want to use.
[18:29] <LeeJunFan> oh, or what KRF said.
[18:29] <herbaliser> and the spalsh screen?
[18:29] <herbaliser> don't seem to find it in kcontrol
[18:29] <LeeJunFan> not sure about the splash. I normally just disable that.
[18:29] <KRF> herbaliser, thats in appearance
[18:29] <Schuenemann> which splash?
[18:29] <LeeJunFan> I like to see what my system is doing.
[18:30] <KRF> kcontrol -> appearance -> splash theme or somthing
[18:30] <LeeJunFan> right, the boot splash is different than the login splash, the login one can be changed in appearance.
[18:30] <KRF> oh
[18:30] <Schuenemann> where do you change login appearance?
[18:30] <LeeJunFan> seems I saw something on getdeb to change the bootsplash
[18:31] <Schuenemann> it's startupmanager
[18:31] <Schuenemann> here: http://hacktivision.com/index.php/2008/01/24/how-to-customize-grub-in-ubuntu?blog=2
[18:31] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, where is that option for changing login appearance?
[18:32] <Daisuke_Ido> and it's not in getdeb, it's in the repos
[18:32] <Daisuke_Ido> !info startupmanager
[18:32] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: you mean the appearance of the login screen or the splash screen that shows while KDE is loading?
[18:32] <Schuenemann> the login screen
[18:32] <Schuenemann> that splash I remove, it sucks IMO
[18:32] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: that's under system settings, advanced tab, login manager
[18:33] <herbaliser> ok thanks
[18:33] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, but Gutsy had something that I could its style I don't find there. There was one with a hand and fingerprints
[18:33] <DarkriftX> !nvidia
[18:34] <Schuenemann> there I only see wallpapers, messages and related
[18:34] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: not sure about that. I normally don't mess with mine. As I rarely ever see the login screen I don't care what it looks like. :)
[18:34] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, why do you rarely see it? You don't turn your computer off?
[18:34] <LeeJunFan> right now I'm using the default oxygen theme on kde4.
[18:35] <LeeJunFan> Schuenemann: no, I have a laptop that's either suspended to RAM or in use.
[18:35] <ign0ramus|afk|nf> Schuenemann: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/login-scan+%27splash%27?content=26888
[18:35] <Schuenemann> ign0ramus|afk|nf, where do I change that?
[18:35] <Schuenemann> I can't find it in kcontrol
[18:36] <ign0ramus|afk|nf> Schuenemann: brb
[18:36] <Schuenemann> going away right now =/
[18:37] <LeeJunFan> It should be under system administration->login manager
[18:37] <Schuenemann> I wonder where they're hiding that option
[18:38] <LeeJunFan> nevermind, kde3.5 doesn't have the ability to do themes from there.
[18:38] <LeeJunFan> you can in kde4
[18:38] <Schuenemann> LeeJunFan, well, I could somewhere with gutsy
[18:38] <EagleSn> do u want ot change kdm theme?
[18:39] <Schuenemann> kdm theme is for the whole KDE, no?
[18:39] <Schuenemann> I wanted to change the login screen appearance
[18:39] <LeeJunFan> no, just for login.
[18:40] <EagleSn> you have a package called kdmtheme, install it and you will find the option in kcontrol
[18:40] <Schuenemann> EagleSn, was that default installed with gutsy?
[18:40] <EagleSn> i think it is not installed by default, i am not sure
[18:41] <EagleSn> chekc in with some package manager as like as Adept or Synaptic
[18:41] <Schuenemann> I installed... where is it supposed to be now?
[18:41] <EagleSn> let me see...
[18:42] <Schuenemann> found it
[18:42] <Schuenemann> it's under appearance
[18:43] <EagleSn> correctç
[18:43] <DarkriftX> ever since I installed my nvidia restricted drivers, I cannot change tty or "logout" to command line because I get resolution problems. is there something I need to change to fix this? I just tried to install the newest nvidia-glx-new but says its already latest.
[18:43] <Schuenemann> EagleSn, there are only 3, though. And 2 are the same :-)
[18:44] <Schuenemann> EagleSn, thanks
[18:44] <EagleSn> yes, you can obtain new themes by installing it from package manager (if any) or downloading from kde-look website
[18:49] <Schuenemann> EagleSn, do those themes need compiling?
[18:51] <Schuenemann> ok, it doesn't. Sorry
[19:09] <RenzoreK> How do I replace the K-menu icon? Ive read a bunch of forums and the web and none can explain it properly it seems.
[19:12] <ForgeAus> hey all why are my device ID's all screwed up?
[19:12] <ForgeAus> shouldn't they be in a hex ####:#### format?
[19:12] <ForgeAus> mine show up as 0#0:##.#
[19:17] <Schuenemann> RenzoreK, tried /usr/share/icons?
[19:22] <EagleSn> yes, there is to replace the Kmenu icon by the alternative icon in /usr/share/icons
[19:24] <serveradmin> moinsen
[19:32] <Dinithion> Is there a way to change the standard UTF8 to ISO-8859-1? Or atleast for some terminal-emulator I use without support for UTF8?
[19:34] <icelab> hi, it is possible reconfigure konqueror?
[19:35] <icelab> i have delete all flash plugin in the confuguration box
[19:36] <icelab> and the program don't find enythings
[19:43] <x86> can someone give me a direct download link to a CD (or DVD) ISO image file for the latest kubuntu + kde4 remix?
[19:43] <x86> cdimage.kubuntu.com is down or something
[19:43] <x86> having a hard time finding mirrors too :(
[19:43] <x86> found olemiss.edu and it's 8.04 tree is completely empty
[19:44] <icelab> c' mon guys
[19:45] <VousDeux> hello: I was going through my routine of draining and recharging my battery. The battery was almost dead, so I plugged it back in. At that moment the session I was working in said that I had locked it...even though I did not. Now it won't accept my password. I have logged into a different session, but I can't seem to get back into my original session.
[19:45] <x86> see it on some torrent sites but torrents scare me
[19:45] <VousDeux> Is there some way I can access session:0 from session:1?
[19:46] <VousDeux> I would like to gracefully exit applications that are running in session:0
[19:46] <x86> VousDeux: if you could hijack it and set it's display environment variable to a remote (localbox:0) X server, maybe
[19:46] <x86> VousDeux: or put root username and pass? perhaps that would unlock it
[19:46] <mrunagi> how do i keep kubuntu from restoring applications from the last session?
[19:47] <ForgeAus> for future reference if anyone needs to know lspci -n maps screwy ID's to Device ID
[19:47] <VousDeux> it won't let me specify a user...it looks like the screensaver lock
[19:47] <VousDeux> is there something I can kill that will unlock session:0?
[19:49] <ForgeAus> uh logging out?
[19:50] <edju> System Settings|Disk & Filesystems  won't load -  "the module disk and filesystems could not be loaded"  - something about wrong or orphaned modules.  Google's been no help.  Any hints, pointers, etc. appreciated.
[19:51] <VousDeux> hey, I got it...there was a process running called kdesktop_lock
[19:51] <VousDeux> I killed it :)
[19:51] <VousDeux> thanks for your time
[19:59] <mrunagi> !dvd
[19:59] <mrunagi> !Medibuntu
[20:07] <mrunagi> kubuntu is being so sluggish lately
[20:14] <CoJaBo-Eee> Is there a way to manage file associations?
[20:15] <favro> I right click the file and select "open with"
[20:17] <CoJaBo-Eee> I want to be able to set VLC as the default player for video files.
[20:18] <favro> you can do that with the right click menu
[20:19] <jussi01> CoJaBo-Eee: open konqueror, configure konqueror, manage file associatrions
[20:19] <CoJaBo-Eee> Ok, but is there a more efficiant way than doing each type individually?
[20:23] <CoJaBo-Eee> jussi01: Thanks, that looks like what  I'm looking for. Strangely I am not able to click anything in that window tho.
[20:23] <jussi01> hrm, weird
[20:24] <CoJaBo-Eee> It is too bid to fit on screen, and every click causes it to jump around eratically
[20:24] <CoJaBo-Eee> *big
[20:29] <CoJaBo-Eee> Managed to do them all by keyboard, looks like it works now.
[20:30] <breece> Looking for a little help, if I could: sound suddenly stopped working (mid-session) on this computer.  Reboot didn't fix it.  :/
[20:30] <jussi01> CoJaBo-Eee: great :)
[20:31] <CoJaBo-Eee> This computer plays video nicely, considering its an EeePC subnotebook lol
[20:32] <LeeJunFan> Anyone know of a utility that will simply let me tone each channel of my audio, I have a feeling my center speaker isn't even working.
[20:34] <xanax`> hello
[20:34] <xanax`> I just installed the " plasmoid-lancelot " package with Adept but I don't know how to launch it. Can someone help me ?
[20:36] <LeeJunFan> nvm, found speaker-test
[20:54] <breece> Problem fixed; either kmix had a channel muted or my dpkg-reconfigure linux-ubuntu-modules fixed it.
[20:56] <sopra> bonsoir tous le monde
[20:56] <sopra> j'aurai besoin quelque infos concernan kubuntu pv me plz
[20:56] <jussi01> !fr
[20:57] <sopra> oui
[20:57] <sopra> help me plz
[20:58] <jussi01> it would help to tell us your problem...
[20:59] <sopra> I dont speack anglish i am french
[20:59] <sopra> mais par contre je parle francais
[20:59] <sopra> j'ai un souci pour installer wine sur kubuntu
[20:59] <mrunagi> can anyone tell me how to make a vfat formatted sdcard writeable?
[21:00] <jussi01> sopra: type: /join #kubuntu-fr
[21:01] <sopra> thx
[21:08] <damarus> et salut
[21:10] <skinnymg1> will a .sh file auto install
[21:17] <devo>  i have a problem hopefully someone can help me out
[21:18] <devo>  every time i put a movie dvd into my computer to try to watch the picture is great but then the sound is all crackily, how can i fix it so that the sound is perfect as the picture???
[21:19] <devo>  why wont u ppl help me out, wtf???
[21:19] <CoJaBo-Eee> devo: Changin sound settings might help.
[21:20] <devo> in vlc media player?
[21:20] <devo> i have already tried that & still got noth'n
[21:20] <devo> so i guess i'm sol srry to say
[21:20] <CoJaBo-Eee> On a few apps that had bad sound/video, changing some settings around fixed it. Might not work for everyone tho :/
[21:21] <devo> ok i'll give it a shot
[21:21] <devo> brb
[21:22] <mrunagi> anyone know of a reason why when i go to storage media it hangs at loading directory......
[21:25] <Ch1ppy> Hey, I have two sound cards and I want them both to be enabled. However, I always want the default to be one of them. Right now, half the time the default is chosen as the one I don
[21:25] <Ch1ppy> 't want.... is there a way to set it so that the one I want is always selected?
[21:32] <fritz> how can i check if Firestarter started before run it GUI of it? (as a service or something)
[21:32] <fritz> can i check it on terminal scr.?
[21:38] <spr> my wireless on my hp dv 600 isnt working..
[21:38] <spr> 6000*
[21:39] <rakitovec> olala
[21:40] <rakitovec> is anzone here
[21:40] <rakitovec> anyone here?
[21:41] <rakitovec> lalalla
[21:41] <rakitovec> anyone???
[21:41] <rakitovec> somebody
[21:41] <spr> hey
[21:45] <riccardo_> ciao come faccio a mettere a posto APT?
[21:46] <starenka> !it | riccardo_
[21:47] <starenka> riccardo_: or just ask in english
[21:51] <Ch1ppy> Is there a way to set one sound card to always be the default?
[22:16] <lanoxx_> hi, i just installed kubuntu, but choose the option dont install bootloader
[22:16] <lanoxx_> with what kernel options should i install kubuntu?
[22:16] <lanoxx_> or should i just chainload kubuntu?
[22:17] <sergio> ciao a tutti
[22:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[22:30] <starenka> !it | sergio
[22:31] <chris_____> i want to boot one install of ubuntu from 2 different computers. is there a way to create sth like "hardware profiles" so i dont have to reinstall hardware after changing the computer?
[22:34] <lanoxx_> chris_____ uhm is this a onetime move? or do you mean you switch drives frequently?
[22:34] <chris_____> switch computers frequently, same drive
[22:34] <lanoxx_> if you use a genkernel it should be no problem i think
[22:35] <lanoxx_> but im not sure
[22:35] <chris_____> a genkernel?
[22:35] <chris_____> hmm
[22:35] <chris_____> i'll read up on it. thanks!
[22:36] <lanoxx_> afaik ubuntu uses generic kernel, that means every drivers is compiled as a module and is just loaded when needed
[22:36] <lanoxx_> so unlike windows you can boot linux from any computer you like
[22:36] <lanoxx_> at least in theory, practically you would have to try it and see if it works
[22:37] <chris_____> well.. it doesnt. it "forgets" my graphics driver and setup
[22:37] <lanoxx_> ah
[22:37] <lanoxx_> yes
[22:38] <lanoxx_> if you use a different graphic card you might need another xorg config
[22:38] <paolo_> hi. where can i check if an ethernet wifi usb adapter is fully compatible with kubuntu ?
[22:38] <chris_____> one is actually a virtual machine, so theres a few other addons i need
[22:40] <maennj> hello guys
[22:41] <lanoxx_> hmm, im not sure how to do this, but you might be able to write a script to check how you boot and load anoter xorg.conf
[22:41] <lanoxx_> but im not sure, since graphic configuration is not part of the kernel this is a bit tricky
[22:42] <chris_____> maybe i could just use 2 separate kernels and select them before boot?
[22:42] <lanoxx_> no, its not a kernel thing, its you xorg.conf
[22:43] <maennj> guys, I destroyed 4 cds trying to burn intrepid alpha 5. but each time it I try to boot, the boot menu comes up but when I try to run kubuntu live, the computer just freezes
[22:43] <ofv> chris_____: the X Windowing system is unrelated to the Linux kernel.
[22:44] <maennj> anyone know how to fix this problem ?
[22:44] <chris_____> ofv: the vbox addons appear to be recompiling kernel modules. thats why i thought
[22:45] <maennj> and when I run umenu.exe from windows it says invalid cd detected
[22:45] <ofv> maennj: have you checked the md5sum of the iso file you downloaded?
[22:46] <lanoxx_> with what kernel options do i have to boot kubuntu
[22:46] <lanoxx_> ?
[22:46] <lanoxx_> i didnt install a bootloader in the first place
[22:46] <ubuntu> hi. I am running Alpha 5 live cd right now, and just ran all the updates. If i do an install, will these updates be active, or will i have to run them all again?
[22:46] <maennj> ofv: I'm going to now, but I thought that the file is ok because I was able to boot the iso file using virtual machine
[22:47] <maennj> lanoxx_ default options
[22:47] <maennj> lanoxx_ not sure if u meant me by that quesiton :)
[22:49] <lanoxx_> maennj: i belive that i have to set some kernel options, just dont know which
[22:49] <maennj> lanoxx_: I tried to turn all options off
[22:52] <maennj> can someone give me md5 has for intrepid-desktop-i386.iso (alpha5) something wrong  cdimage.ubuntu.com I can't open it
[22:52] <maennj> hash*
[22:55] <ofv> maennj: it works fine for me. In which directory is the cd image?
[22:56] <maennj> you mean in which directory in the cd ?
[22:56] <ofv> found it: 81a5c425f5b004a7e24b8be15f925371 *intrepid-desktop-i386.iso
[22:57] <maennj> aah ok, my  file is corrupted . thx
[22:57] <maennj> weird thing I was able to boot using the iso file directly from virtual machine
[22:57] <maennj> but when I emulate the iso file into cd, it says invalid cd detected, so I guess something is wrong
[22:58] <ofv> maennj: do you mean it worked on a virtual machine but not on a real one?
[22:58] <maennj> yea when I make the virtual machine boots the iso file as cd it works
[22:59] <maennj> but after I burn it, then try to boot the virtual machine with the real cd it doesn't work
[22:59] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Hello.
[22:59] <maennj> it doesn't work when I boot the real cd on the real machine either
[22:59] <ofv> that's very extrange. If the cd image is corrupted, it shouldn't work on the virtual machine either.
[23:00] <maennj> yea weird, I couldn't run umenu.exe too
[23:01] <CoJaBo-Eee> Also weird is that Kubuntu is handling connecting to Windows shared files better than Windows Vista itself lol
[23:01] <Carla1989> I understand that kubuntu install cd can let me work on a 'usable" desktop - I guess for read write access. Is it possible to somehow run PC Doctor or Memory Test on my laptop?
[23:02] <LeeJunFan> hi Carla1989 - you should be able to run memtest
[23:02] <LeeJunFan> your HD check out okay? I take it you didn't get the system installed...
[23:03] <Carla1989> Hello LeeJunFan. I am afraid the problems from yday are still at the same point. BadBlocks Test completed without errors. But when I tried installing kubuntu afterwards, it stopped at 79% and gave me same error reported at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=810453
[23:04] <maennj> k guys thx for help I guess I'm gonna redownload to make sure
[23:04] <maennj> exit
[23:04] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: The install CD was not faulty, I got it re-written from another brand new laptop using imageburn s/w.
[23:04] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: did you verify the disc burned w/o errors?
[23:04] <LeeJunFan> okay.
[23:04] <Carla1989> LeeJuFan: yes
[23:05] <Carla1989> sry LeeJunFan: Yes.
[23:05] <LeeJunFan> Did you verify from within the installer?
[23:05] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Hmm. No not last time.
[23:05] <Carla1989> I can quickly do that right now.
[23:05] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: or did you just verify from imageburn. If you have a corrupt iso download then imageburn will say it's okay. Might want to try from the CD, and see what it says.
[23:05] <LeeJunFan> bbiab.
[23:07] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: ImageBurn verified the CD. And I am running the defects check within the installer.
[23:09] <Fading> !wine
[23:09] <DarkriftX> anyone here use dosbox?
[23:12] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: No errors found in the installer CD.
[23:17] <DarkShinigami> Hello all.
[23:17] <DarkShinigami> Every once in a while, Yahoo does not connect. I get the error message "Error 1 - Name Lookup Has Failed". How can I correct this?
[23:18] <DarkShinigami> Sorry. Forgot to mention. I am using Kopete
[23:30] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: No errors were found in the burnt installer CD.
[23:31] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: have you tried any other linux distros?
[23:31] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: at what point did it fail? after you've done partitioning?
[23:34] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Yes, I finished partitioning and few minutes after that.
[23:34] <mn> Anyone here know of a good .iso burner for linux systems?
[23:34] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: I am trying to find some command (like badblocks) to check for CD/DVD drive errors on kubuntu
[23:36] <SebNaitsabes> mn:  yes K3B :)
[23:36] <SebNaitsabes> mn: you should have  that as part of Kubuntu in fact
[23:36] <mn> Oh ok.  where could I find it?
[23:36] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: if the CD verified then that's not the problem, that proves it can read from your CD fine.
[23:37] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: If CD/DVD Drive is okay, and HDD has no errors, what does that error mean?
[23:37] <Carla1989> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=810453 - this one
[23:39] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: hard to say, would need to know what file it couldn't copy I guess. As I'm not familiar with the GUI installer I don't know if there's a way to get details during install as to what file was copying.
[23:39] <LeeJunFan> It may be laptops specific, you might want to search for your laptop model in conjunction with the error.
[23:39] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Where can I find such a person?
[23:40] <Carla1989> Ah, if kubuntu installer is not able to copy a file, I would first check what file it is. This information alone could give us more insight
[23:42] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: I am back again on the usable desktop
[23:42] <Carla1989> :(
[23:44] <Sixzero> I'm having trouble trying to setup a home network between two Kubuntu boxes.  The system won't let me create new folders or move items in my Samba share, nor does Zeroconf seem to work properly.
[23:44] <atomizer> hi all
[23:45] <Sixzero> hi
[23:46] <atomizer> i wanna ask a simple question about 32Bit and 64Bit versions of kubuntu
[23:46] <ofv> Sixzero: I've fixed the freeze problem when I logout from KDE.
[23:46] <ofv> Sixzero: the problem was atieventsd
[23:47] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Is there some utility like PC Doctor in Kubuntu?
[23:47] <atomizer> i have an Intel Quad Q8800... do you suggest i use the 32bit or the 64 bit version? and why?
[23:47] <dr_willis> atomizer,  totally depends on the tasks you will be doing..
[23:47] <atomizer> audio mixing/recording
[23:47] <dr_willis> Or ifyou got more then 4gb of ram and want to use/see all the ram
[23:47] <atomizer> and possibly game creation and image creation
[23:48] <dr_willis> You might gain a little speed in encoding files with 64bit.
[23:48] <atomizer> no, i have 2GB at the mo, upgrading to 4GB on tuesday
[23:48] <dr_willis> But for most people - 64bit is not needed.
[23:48] <Sixzero> ofv: good deal.  what was atieventsd doing to cause the freeze?
[23:48] <dr_willis> OVER 4gb.. you would  want to use 64bit..
[23:48] <ofv> I don't know. But the machine seems to work okay without it.
[23:49] <dr_willis> I never use 64bit. so i  dont know what issues remain for 64bit Linux at this time.
[23:49] <dr_willis> Used to be flash/java/video drivers - where issues.. but i think a lot of thiose have been fixed now.
[23:49] <atomizer> yeh thats something else i was thinking, will 64bit have any more problems
[23:49] <atomizer> yeh
[23:50] <Sixzero> ofv: Lets hope it stays that way :)
[23:50] <ofv> Sixzero: I remember you had the same problem. Or do you fixed it already?
[23:50] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: if you run memtest for a while w/o an error then that should take care of it as we've verified the HDD and CD are working, the only things really left in the scheme of things are CPU and memory. I highly doubt that to be the problem though.
[23:51] <dr_willis> ive had memory 'slots' on MB's be bad also...
[23:51] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Can you please tell me the command to run memtest
[23:51] <Sixzero> ofv: I had that problem logging out of KDE4, but I've just tried avoiding it altogether for the time being.  I played around with it for a bit today, but it's still too buggy for my tastes.
[23:51] <Carla1989> !memtest
[23:51] <LeeJunFan> !info memtest
[23:51] <Carla1989> duh
[23:52] <LeeJunFan> wth.
[23:52] <Carla1989> oh no!
[23:52] <LeeJunFan> !info memtest86+
[23:52] <Sixzero> ofv: but ever since I got a working set of ati drivers going, I haven't had a real bad problem since.
[23:53] <Sixzero> !zeroconf
[23:53] <Sixzero> !samba
[23:53] <LeeJunFan> I really wish I had more experience with the normal live installer Carla1989, but my guess is memtest might be a boot option or it's already on the CD and you may just be able to run it from konsole.
[23:53] <ofv> Sixzero: okay. Here is the page that solved my problem:
[23:53] <ofv> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Troubleshooting
[23:54] <ofv> and specifically "System lockup on logout with catalyst 8.01"
[23:54] <Carla1989> Yes, I can uderstand LeeJunFan. I am trying on this end too. :)
[23:54] <atomizer> kubuntu 7.10 livecd had memtest as an option in the boot menu when you booted with the livecd
[23:54] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: well, no you have to boot into memtest.
[23:55] <atomizer> yeh i meant, when you turn the pc on
[23:55] <dr_willis> Gee does that mean Memtest is its own OS? :)
[23:55] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: And how do I do that?
[23:55] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: so it either needs to be on a floppy (which if I recall you don't have) or on CD.
[23:55] <dr_willis> Most Live cd's these days have a Memtest option
[23:55] <atomizer> lol no... im just saying O:)
[23:55] <LeeJunFan> yeah, Carla1989 I imagine there's a way to boot into memtest.
[23:56] <Carla1989> Let me try restart the PC.
[23:56] <merolt> buona sera ho un problema con virtualbox
[23:56] <merolt> non si apre piu
[23:56] <merolt> qualcuno sa come fare
[23:56] <merolt> ?
[23:56] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: if not you can download an iso from here and burn it: http://www.memtest86.com/download.html
[23:56] <atomizer> just so you know, im still a bit of a novice with linux.. aint really used it much...mainly due to hardly ever getting the internet working with wireless usb adapters
[23:57] <LeeJunFan> !es | merolt
[23:57] <dr_willis> Thats why i run cables :)
[23:57] <atomizer> yeh but i cant in this place lol
[23:57] <atomizer> i would if i could, serisouly
[23:57] <atomizer> seriously*
[23:57] <dr_willis> I found 100ft cat6 for  $12 the other day.
[23:58] <etfb> Does anyone have any experience using kvpnc to connect to a Windows network?  I'm beginning to think the software itself is broken.
[23:58] <atomizer> yeh, but i've then gotta run that all round the house ¬_¬
[23:58] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: There's no option to memtest86+ in the main menu
[23:58] <atomizer> plus its not my house lol
[23:58] <dr_willis> I got every room wired.. :) i even got cat6 in the 'reading/mens library' In the basement. :)
[23:58] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: hrm, try downloading that iso I posted a link to above.
[23:58] <atomizer> lol once i get my own place, i'll be doing exactly the same
[23:59] <Carla1989> 1. Try kubuntu without any change 2. Install Kubuntu 3. Check CD for defects 4. Test Memory 5. Boot from first Hard Disk
[23:59] <dr_willis> Slowly Updating to Gigabit networking parts.
[23:59] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: this is a PITA isn't it? Seriously, problems like this are fairly rare.
[23:59] <Carla1989> Is option 4 we are talking about?
[23:59] <atomizer> yeh carla1989