[00:00] rm pid, then try to start dbus again /etc/init.d/dbus start [00:00] LeeJunFan: I really don't want anything restored from XP. I just need a clean installation of Kubuntu on my laptop, if my HD allows it. [00:01] Carla1989: then I'd simply try to install kubuntu, if the HD is really damaged you won't get far. [00:02] LeeJunFan: Would rebooting and starting a new session maybe fix this? [00:02] BRB rebooting [00:02] Colonel_Panic: you could try, but if dbus think's it's already running because that pid file is there, it's going to fail again on boot. [00:03] LeeJunFan: I totally understand that I should burn a new install CD without any errors and try installing it. But for now, I am looking for some utility for "Disk Checking" in Kubuntu. Something has to be there like the DOS command we used to have in Windows. [00:05] LeeJunFan: Something like "Scandisk" option in Windows. [00:07] LeeJunFan: I found it! "sudo badblocks -s -v /dev/sda1" [00:07] LeeJunFan: Hats off to Kubuntu! :) [00:09] Carla1989: cool. [00:10] LeeJunFan: There were two partitions, I think so. How do I ensure that I check for all of the partitions? Right now it's running for sda1. [00:10] depends on how it's partitioned, 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' will list partitions [00:11] LeeJunFan: all of them? [00:12] Carla1989: I'd imagine you could just check the whole drive with badblocks /dev/sda [00:13] LeeJunFan: As I told you earlier that I tried creating a boot/swap partition while I was trying to install Kubuntu, but the installation did not succeed. So I am not sure, if those partitions need to be scanned too. [00:13] Carla1989: considering you don't seem to have a bootsector that's readable that's a good idea anyway, because checking individual partitions will not check the part of your HD which holds the bootsector. [00:13] LeeJunFan: Oh really? I would try that, once after sda1 finishes. [00:14] Carla1989: I'd just ctrl-c that one you have running and start over with /dev/sda [00:14] since /dev/sda will scan the whole drive you're really going to be scanning sda1 twice if you let it go. [00:15] LeeJunFan: It seems useble desktop only has a read-only access to my HD but that should not matter as we're only checking for the errors, not trying to fix them. [00:15] LeeJunFan: Okay, let me cancel it, and go for sda. [00:16] Carla1989: if you're using sudo then it has r/w access. [00:16] it needs r/w because badblocks reads and writes data to the HD to make sure it's stable. That bad CD you have might be the reason it failed. [00:16] LeeJunFan: Yes, you were right! :) Earlier it was checking 37608132 size (for sda1), but now it is checking 39070070 (for sda)! [00:17] LeeJunFan: Oh, that could be the case. It says "Checking for bad blocks (read-only test)" [00:18] Carla1989: oh, r/w test is an option. [00:18] good though, read only will be a lot faster. [00:18] I would imagine so, yes. [00:20] If that works then just install kubuntu from a verified error-free CD and you should be all set. [00:23] Yep, It has already checked 8.5/39 [00:25] Must I tell you, I was so dissapointed earlier from not being able to check my HD for any errors -- that I thought of going for a new one simply trashing the old one. [00:25] But if there are no errors, I would not buy a new one! [00:25] :) [00:26] There is another possibility though. If HD does not have any errors, I have to find some other source. [00:28] Carla1989: if the HD doesn't have any errors then it's likely that the installation failed because the CD was corrupt. When the installation failed it may have left your HD w/o a boot sector, that's all. [00:29] LeeJunFan: omg! w/o a boot sector? You mean corrupted it, in some sense? If that's the case, are there steps to re-install the boot sector like it was before? [00:29] Carla1989: that would be re-done during installation. [00:30] Carla1989: the problem is that you have a 1/2 installed system. If you put your old boot sector back that would be XP's, which would try to boot to the kubuntu installation on your HD, wouldn't work. [00:30] Oh, so in the meanwhile - I'll just get another bootable CD done on this laptop (one which is working perfectly). [00:31] Carla1989: right, just make sure you have a good CD and try again. [00:31] What software do you use for burning bootable CD's? [00:31] These are all good CD's, infact brand new box I opened last week. [00:31] There must have been some fault, with me burning them incorrectly. === root is now known as Guest78285 [00:32] Carla1989: I think there's a free program for windows called cdburn or something, lemme see if I can find it. I haven't used windows for anything except games in about 11 years. [00:33] LeeJunFan: Oh, that'll be superrr [00:33] Unless I'm fixing someone elses broken windows system. :) [00:33] Haha, like in this case. [00:33] deepburner works on windows and is free [00:34] Deepburner, is it? Does it involve nerdy steps to be followed when burning a "bootable" CD? [00:34] If I can remember, we get an ISO image after we download it from kubuntu website. [00:34] What do I do afterwards? [00:34] if you call selecting a burnable image from within the program and clicking ok nerdy I suppose then yeah lol [00:34] Carla1989: yeah, HollowPoint has one there, imgburn was the one I was thinking about. http://www.imgburn.com/ [00:35] Haha, okay then I am that much nerdy myself. [00:35] So which one have you used for burning bootable ISO's [00:35] when you are burning an iso image you don't have to worry about it being bootable. That's in the iso [00:36] thankfully the Linux ISO's are bootable by nature, if you create a data CD and copy the image over it looses it's bootable properties, if you select the option to burn an iso image then select said image it will burn properly and remain bootable [00:36] I haven't burned a CD on windows in a LONG time. [00:36] unfortunately I still have to use Windows at work occassionally, although that contract is ending soon and my business revolves mostly around Linux [00:36] Oh my god, really? I always thought, we have to get the CD bootable by doing some "nerdy" things. But it looks like I was wrong [00:37] in the old days you had to, but these days it's built into the iso [00:37] français?? [00:37] you just have to remember to choose the option to burn an existing iso file and not create a data cd [00:37] OK I can't figure out why dbus isn't starting when I log in [00:37] !fr [00:37] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr [00:38] nethack could be a decent game if it had any decent documentation... for a 20 year old game, im surprised 10+ searches on google for how to equip an item all point to useless junk [00:38] Is there some conf file I can edit to fix this? [00:38] Carla1989: for burning an iso or any cd on windows: http://infrarecorder.sourceforge.net/ (open source windows software) [00:39] aren't there like a gazillion different versions of nethack? [00:39] anyway, Usurper is a much better game anyway [00:40] Colonel_Panic: try this - 'sudo pidof dbus-daemon' and make sure it returns nothing. [00:40] I got 2 numbers as a response [00:40] one sec... lemme try something else [00:42] Colonel_Panic: then dbus is running [00:42] hah! OK dbus IS running [00:42] something else must be causing the problem [00:42] so there's some other unknown reason your externals aren't being recognized. [00:43] Colonel_Panic: try 'lsusb' and see if your HD is listed on the USB bus. [00:43] zabbadapp: Have you used this software yourself? Because if you haven't, I've already started downloading imageburn, suggested by LeeFanJun [00:44] herro, I for some raisin have the option to shut off my computer. I also noticed that I'm no longer prompted for my credentials with a pretty login window, I'm dropped to a command line and have to "startx" to get my desktop. [00:44] I know imageburn is popular and easy, from others who've recommended it, but I've not used it myself. It has a checking feature so you can verify the CD btw :) [00:45] don't have the option* [00:45] MySQL_dumkopf: that doesn't sound good. Which version of Kubuntu are you using and when did this start happening? Do you remember making any large changes before this happened the first time? [00:46] HollowPoint, yeah, I'm on Kubuntu 3.5.8, I had 4.0 installed (I'm on Gutsy) and I removed KDE 4.0 and this started happening heh [00:46] Carla1989: yes, briefly ... but I'm sure imgburn works as well ... is it also open source? [00:46] MySQL_dumkopf: then kdm4 is trying to be started and isn't there any more. [00:46] you need to re-install kdm for kde3.5.9 [00:46] 3.5.8* [00:47] MySQL_dumkopf: the file /etc/X11/default-display-manager holds information as to which display manager to start on boot, it needs to be changed to point to /usr/bin/kdm [00:47] although actually it's probably still there, just isn't being pointed to, [00:47] well, I'm able to shutdown/power off at the command line and start it via the command line so it's not a BIG problem, thought it would be an easy fix :) [00:47] there ya go [00:47] Carla1989: (looking at the homepage) i see that imgburn looks pretty good, i'm sure it will serve you well. [00:48] MySQL_dumkopf: just open it with a text editor and change it. save it, then start kdm with - sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start [00:48] or just reboot [00:48] or reboot for a completely clean start, [00:49] danke herr LeeJunFan :) I've made the changes, I shall restart [00:49] you keep getting there before me LeeJunFan lol [00:49] I'm trying to download the KDE 4 remix ISO, but all the links seem to be broken. is that not available anymore? [00:49] are you already on kubuntu with KDE3.5.9? [00:49] no [00:49] I'm doing a fresh install [00:50] LeeJunFan: Here's my /etc/fstab file: http://www.pastebin.ca/1202184 [00:50] fair enough, well to be perfectly honest I did a VM install of KDE4 Remix the other day and I STILL had to upgrade it to KDE4.1 via adding the appropriate repos to /etc/apt/sources.list so I'd suggest just a fresh install of Kubuntu normal, then add the repo and upgrade to KDE4.1 [00:50] or install alongside 3.5.* [00:51] ok, I guess that's ok [00:51] the links should probably be taken down. there are links to a "beta" directory on mirrors, but none seem to have that [00:51] the links were working the other day so I'm not sure why thats happening [00:51] Colonel_Panic: you shouldn't need usb devices in fstab, did you try lsusb? [00:51] fr [00:52] no... I just added that today [00:52] I was going to delete that line [00:52] run lsusb and see if you see your hd's. [00:52] I want the server adress for french please [00:52] I want the server adress for french please [00:52] #kubuntu-fr [00:52] thanks! [00:52] np [00:53] Looks like it has started scanning bigger chunks, going very fast now. 24/39 done. [00:53] HollowPoint, well on the download page, if you select KDE 4 remix, it just downloads the regular version anyways [00:53] interesting [00:54] LeeJunFan: What's lsusb? [00:54] now where did I see that "beta" link... [00:54] Colonel_Panic: it's a shell command that lists what's attached to the USB ports. [00:54] well as I said earlier pekuja the remix isn't much use anyway as you still have to sit there for half an hour or more updating to KDE4.1 so may as well install Kubuntu with KDE3.5.* and upgrade/install alongside KDE4.1 from the repo [00:55] HollowPoint, ok [00:55] I agree with that. [00:55] HollowPoint, well I guess the point would be that I wouldn't get two copies of KDE [00:55] !VLC [00:55] Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs [00:55] !cls [00:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about cls [00:55] how come vlc won't play wmv files ? [00:55] HollowPoint, 4.0 would upgrade to 4.1, but 3.5 is in separate packages, right? [00:55] yeah it would be another option to boot into from KDM [00:56] LeeJunFan, that worked wonderfully, thanks! [00:56] you would still have both installed [00:56] yeah [00:56] extra clutter [00:56] true [00:56] pekuja: yeah, you'd have to remove 3.5 after. [00:56] hi togehter [00:56] sgallinger: does anything on your system play wmv files? i.e. mplayer? [00:57] at least apt-get is pretty good at removing big sets of packages these days [00:57] !codecs [00:57] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [00:57] IMHO next to portage (Gentoo) Aptitude is the best package manager out there [00:57] apt-egt is better [00:58] okay, well, I'm out for a while, good luck Colonel_Panic and Carla1989 - ttyl. [00:59] laters LeeJunFan [01:00] is there any chance to get an Epson 5590 run on a 64-bit system? [01:00] yo yo yo [01:01] christoph: sure its not a hp? [01:01] LeeJunFan: Thanks for your help. :) [01:02] @action no epson [01:02] but 4490 [01:02] ok let me check [01:02] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=705566 [01:03] hi ActionParsnip hows things? [01:03] HollowPoint: not bad, just having another slog at gentoo for laughs [01:03] HollowPoint: my am2 semperon64 3000 isnt so hot for compiles [01:04] Is it true that there is rivalry between debian and kubuntu? A friend of mine told me. [01:04] not that i'm aware of [01:04] I gave up on Gentoo a while back, did three system installs within 4 weeks of 2008.0 being released, one using ~x86, one without and one fully stable, I managed to break all 3 [01:04] Carla1989: theres no rivalry anywhere except for sad fanboys [01:04] ActionParsnip: Okay. :) [01:04] @action - thnk a lot. but ie done these tutorial for my 32-bit system. Now I have 64-Bit. [01:05] Carla1989: *Ubuntu is derrived from Debian, the *Ubuntu family of releases is far more suited for desktops and new users than Debian is [01:05] Carla1989: if it works for you, use it. same with mac or windows [01:05] Carla1989: what other people use on their system doesnt affect you so dont sweat it [01:05] some keys of my keyboard are dead - sorry [01:05] ActionParsnip: Yes, I understand that. Looks like Kubuntu just saved me $100 for a new HD. [01:05] christoph: most are generic [01:06] hello, anyone able send files direct with kopete or pidgin...neither are working under msn [01:06] kathy: mine doesnt work but i just ask folks to upload to my ftp :D [01:06] it used work. know what problem is? [01:07] I know, but iscan is only as an 32-bit version available. [01:07] kathy: its broken, you have both pieces. Ive not looked into it but you may be able to websearch a remedy [01:07] kathy I use aMSN instead, I don't have problems sending files through MSN with it where I did with Kopete [01:07] christoph: yuo can install 32bit libs ;) [01:08] okay. I try it. Thanks a lot. [01:08] Okay, the badblocks test completed just now and there were no errors. Should I just go ahead and install Kubuntu and hope for it to fix my Boot Sector progam too? LeeJunFan mentioned that interrupted Kubuntu setup program may have left my HD without a boot sector and a fresh install would fix it. [01:08] Carla1989: you can reinstall grub if your boot sector is damaged [01:09] Carla1989: I take it you've formatted the drive and run a disk check which has now reported no errors? If so then yeah fresh install of Kubuntu should be all good, are you wanting it to dualboot wit hWindows? [01:09] !kernel upgrade [01:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel upgrade [01:09] !kernel [01:09] The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages [01:09] I give amsn try..i have it installed..thanks [01:10] np [01:11] Just to repeat the long story: I wanted to use this laptop after so many months but it wouldn't boot my XP. So I tried installing Kubuntu and it was interrupted in between on account of an error on the install CD that I burnt. Afterwards it wouldn't boot and give "Please insert drive in the system, Press any key when done" errors. So I thought my HD has gone bad but badblocks couldn't find anything. [01:12] So I'll go ahead and install kubuntu from scratch - after burning a new CD with no errors, hopefully this time. [01:12] hm. i see a kernel update in adept. it mentions "You likely do not want to install this package directly. Instead, install the linux-generic meta-package, which will ensure that upgrades work correctly, and that supporting packages are also installed." but when i look at linux-generic, there's no upgrade available. at this point i'm confused, how do i update my kernel? [01:13] that should work fine Carla1989, if you're wanting a dualboot then that should work also, just install XP first, then once installed you install Kubuntu and it'll give you the option to re-partition the drive and install alongside it, then you'll have both OS's with a boot menu [01:13] Fieldy: why do you need to upgrade your kernel? [01:13] HollowPoint: i don't need to, i wish to [01:13] what version are you running at the moment? [01:14] 2.6.24-19-generic [01:14] oops. 19.36 [01:15] well I'm using that exact same kernel and as far as I know it's the latest stable kernel for Kubuntu8.04, is there a specific reason you want to upgrade your kernel to something not certified as stable? [01:15] i thought only stable stuff is displayed, now i'm really confused. [01:16] im not an expert at compiling, but arent there more commands required besides make? the make says its configuring and installing the app... makes it sound like thats all thats needed [01:16] anyway no offense but i'm interested in performing this, not out of need but simple desire [01:16] have you enabled a backports repository or added an extra repo for third party software ? [01:16] no [01:16] What do I need to install to get Java in Firefox? [01:16] install java, restart firefox [01:16] Darkrift2: ./configure then make then make install [01:16] !java [01:16] Have a good night an thanks a lot. Bye bye [01:16] To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper === root is now known as Guest21136 [01:18] CoJaBo-Eee: You can close Firefox down, open the adept manager, search for mozilla and you'll see java-nonfree or something near the top of the list, install that then start Firefox up [01:18] !smp [01:18] Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed) [01:19] ah okay generic does support smp. right on. [01:19] It works fin with the 32bit libs [01:20] christoph: sweet [01:20] thanks action [01:20] christoph: np bro [01:20] hows the gentoo install going ActionParsnip? [01:20] * ActionParsnip thinks compiling kernel modules takes too long [01:21] lol are you timing the compile? [01:21] cant be bothered [01:21] lmao [01:21] its been about 4 songs on kerrang [01:21] so about 20 odd mins [01:22] I'm tempted to do another Gentoo install in a VM but we get charged per MB for bandwidth out here so I'm reluctant to use a gig (Granted is only $1 but I have better stuff to use that GB of data for lol) [01:22] i have no cap :D [01:23] I miss being in the UK and having an 8MB download with no limits :'( [01:23] HollowPoint: s'what i got [01:23] !nvidia [01:23] plud virginmedia have gentoo stuff on their servers :) [01:23] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [01:23] Darkrift2: Ok, does that install the stand-alone JVM and plugin at once? [01:24] dont remember [01:24] yeah I know, that's where I download from when installing Gentoo, I'm in NZ so am on the opposite side of the world yet Virgin Medias servers are the fastest ones even from here [01:24] been a few weeks, but it should say on that site [01:24] God bless Richard Branson [01:24] HollowPoint: wowser [01:24] HollowPoint: smart guy :D [01:24] Have good night - bye bye [01:24] peace ou christoph === joseph is now known as iss_student [01:24] hey all. i just noticed that upon startup, i am loading all startup scripts twice ('setting up preliminary keymap', 'preparing restricted drivers', etc). is this a hang-on from upgrading from Gutsy? And how do i stop it? [01:25] ign0ramus: have you just installed KDE4 or something? [01:25] * ActionParsnip thinks HollowPoint has got it nailed [01:25] HollowPoint: i did about three months ago... [01:26] HollowPoint: what do i need to uninstall to stop this? [01:26] ign0ramus: kde4 startup is in ~/.kde4/share/autostart [01:26] have you confirmed that your system is fully up to date? [01:27] ign0ramus: kde3.5 autorun is in ~/.kde/Autorun [01:27] HollowPoint: run update && upgrade every day [01:27] by this I mean you've installed the repos for KDE4 and confirmed it's updated to KDE4.1 and not KDE4.0? [01:27] ign0ramus: check the scripts arent in both as they may both get executed [01:27] HollowPoint: oh, i don't know- i don't use the kde4 [01:27] * ActionParsnip uses fluxbox [01:27] ActionParsnip: i don't want any of the kde4 scripts at all... what can i safely rm? [01:27] just uninstall KDE4 then and set the KDM used back to KDM instead of KDM4 [01:28] !kdm [01:28] Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm [01:28] grah ubottu you suck [01:28] ign0ramus: cd ~/.kde4/share/Autostart [01:28] ign0ramus: you can rm any stuff in there [01:28] ign0ramus: id check what they are first (if there are any) [01:28] ActionParsnip: no such file or directory [01:29] !kde4 [01:29] KDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde4 [01:29] I'd be careful with that though, make sure you're using the right kdm version, if you remove the autostart stuff without setting back to kdm you may have problems [01:29] HollowPoint: what is the name of the kde4 package that i can purge? [01:29] ign0ramus: what if you just do cd ~/.kde4? [01:29] HollowPoint: i thout the autostart was for when the user logs in, not kdm [01:30] yeah it is action but I'm not all that convinced with kdm4, besides kdm is better anyway :D [01:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/46747/ [01:31] ive not used it to such an extent to compare, i use autologin stuffs so it doesnt get much of a lookin [01:31] last night [01:31] HollowPoint: can i delete the entire folder? [01:31] ign0ramus: its in share you need to be [01:31] ign0ramus: I think you can mate, but I'd still set it back to use KDM rather than KDM4 as well before rebooting [01:31] last night's upgrade offered a new k3b, but when installed it now longer knows how to handle mp3's. Anyone know about this? [01:32] How in KDE 4 can I verify I am running 4.1? [01:32] when you say it no longer knows how to handle mp3s what do you mean LinuxApe? [01:32] HollowPoint: afaik, i am using kdm... how do i know for sure? [01:32] iss_student: what does your login screen look like? [01:32] HollowPoint: i use persistent login [01:32] You get an error about not knowing how to handle this file type [01:32] HollowPoint: haven't seen it in ages [01:33] LinuxApe: change your file associations [01:33] LinuxApe: if you run amarok and try to play an mp3 does it play ok? [01:34] ign0ramus: /etc/X11/default-display-manager contains the details of which KDM you're using [01:34] i'm running kde4 in production. i would like to make sure all kde3 related stuff is completely uninstalled. [01:34] what is the best way to remove all remnants of kde3? [01:35] HollowPoint: simply says /usr/bin/kdm [01:35] ign0ramus: then you're using kdm [01:35] ActionParsnip: yes, amarok still plays mp3s [01:35] if you were using kdm4 it would say /usr/bin/kdm4 [01:35] HollowPoint: k, thanks mate [01:35] holycow: you just wanting to get rid of clutter? [01:35] erm i killed my install, the / is fine AFAIK but the /boot is ruined, im working of an install on a second drive how can i make the /boot boot to my old / [01:36] HollowPoint: yeah, also i want to force my self to depend on kde4 apps fully [01:36] Installing the new k3b removed a k3bmp3 library, but it also installed a new k3blib3 library or something, so I thought it was just a replacement. [01:36] I'd say backup your stuff, install KDE4 remix and upgrade to KDE4.1 through the repos, then you've got absolutely NO kde3 packages [01:36] i need to look at putting together some sort of reverse metapackage for this, one that tracks kde package families and removes them upon request [01:36] LinuxApe: then its file associations in your file manaer [01:37] probably quicker than getting rid of KDE3 packages that are already installed [01:37] HollowPoint: reinstall from scratch? [01:37] HollowPoint: compiled kerenl. im gonna jet, peace y'all [01:37] I'd say it'd be worth it holycow if you're wanting to be completely dependant on kde4 [01:37] safest way not to destroy your existing system [01:38] HollowPoint: isn't there a way to remove a key library from kde3 and force the dpkg to remove most of kde3 to begin with? [01:38] ActionParsnip: Not sure I get your meaning. k3b uses file associations? The error message says to use another program to convert the files to wav format, but that's a pain, k3b used to do it seemlessly [01:39] possibly but not one that I'm aware of. Put it this way I reckon the amount of time it would take to find out how to remove everything for KDE3 on your existing system would be double the time it would take to backup your data, re-install KDE4 remix and upgrade to KDE4.1 [01:39] plus the factor of rendering your existing system useless if you make a mistake trying to remove KDE3 and end up removing both or something that KDE4 is reliant on seems a better idea to install from scratch [01:40] yeah good point [01:40] LinuxApe: ActionParsnip is gone mate, his Gentoo kernel compiled so he had to go sort it [01:40] anyone seen this error and/or know how to fix it: make: git-rev-list: Command not found [01:40] what program are you trying to install Darkrift2? [01:41] 10 different ones, all nethack variants [01:41] all are failing, this one gives that error, then many more [01:41] roflmfao nice [01:41] sorry to say this Darkrift2 but "google is your friend" in this case [01:41] falcons eye/vultures eye [01:42] specific error by specific error :( [01:42] i googled, got tons of useless mailing list posts with nothing good in them [01:42] im about to just install the windows version using wine as pathetic as that is [01:42] yeah been there myself but are you googling the error or the program name? [01:43] mostly the error, but ive tried both [01:43] hmmmmmm [01:43] im normally good at finding stuff like that on google [01:43] every forum i find with that error says they gave up on it [01:43] this one just has loads of useless crap though? [01:43] lmao that sounds like an omen to me then Darkrift2 [01:43] <_2> google hates me. i always get tons of useless blah about what i'm looking for, either that our "did you spell it correctly?" heh. [01:46] <_2> of course the fact that i'm usually doing something that no one else in their right mind does may have some thing to do with that [01:47] <_2> so waht is it we are trying to get to work anyway ? [01:47] <_2> what [01:48] where do i find the option to enable my nvidia drivers? used to be in system settings, but cant find it [01:49] found it [01:49] needs restart :( [01:56] What do I need to do to get Java in Firefox? [01:57] <_2> !java [01:57] To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper [01:57] I installed that, but it didn't give me the Java plugin in Firefox. [01:58] <_2> !find java-plugin [01:58] File java-plugin found in Use, of, uninitialized, value, in (and 32 others) [01:59] <_2> well. ! [01:59] <_2> !info sun-java6-plugin [01:59] sun-java6-plugin (source: sun-java6): The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-06-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB [01:59] <_2> !info sun-java5-plugin [02:00] sun-java5-plugin (source: sun-java5): The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-15-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB [02:03] Thanks, its working now [02:04] can someone help me dual boot kubuntu hardy and arch linux (kubuntu on sda and arch on sdb)? === joshua__ is now known as joshua24 [02:05] please? === ine_ is now known as Lovely === Lovely is now known as Lovely_ine [02:08] <_2> joshua24 sda would be the disk not a partition, while i do install linux on partitionless disks most don't. now what are you having trouble with exactly ? [02:09] <_2> joshua24 the most simple way i have found is to copy the kernel+initramfs pair to the /boot/ of the primary disk "sda" in your case and install the boot loader of choice there. [02:10] <_2> other options include letting the boot loader "bounce" to the next disk and have boot loaders on each disk. [02:11] 2, i getting help on arch linux, join #archlinux to hear i dont feel like retyping lol [02:11] <_2> as well as having a boot loader load all kernels from one location, while this is not the best methood. [02:11] <_2> joshua24 k. standard proceedure would then be to withdraw your question here / [02:12] k [02:13] withdrawling [02:13] <_2> heh. "im going to ask, but i really don't want you to answer..." sheeze [02:14] i dont get it.... a 20 year old game, 500 variants and none of them install on modern systems? [02:14] and when they do, they are buggy as hell [02:14] lol [02:14] doom? [02:15] nethack [02:15] <_2> DarkriftX not so hard to understand. most very old games "took over" the graphics, and modern systems don't allow that. [02:15] <_2> oh nethack no graphics there then [02:16] <_2> !find nethack [02:16] Found: nethack-common, nethack-console, nethack-el, nethack-gnome, nethack-lisp (and 3 others) [02:16] <_2> the other three are "nethack-qt nethack-spoilers nethack-x11" [02:17] <_2> !info nethack-qt [02:17] nethack-qt (source: nethack): Text-based/Qt overhead view D&D-style adventure game. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.3-10.2ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 945 kB, installed size 2108 kB [02:23] <_2> is it possable to turn the backlight off on tosheba satalite a130 ? [02:24] <_2> sorry a135 [02:25] <_2> well it must be. closing the lid does it.... [02:26] _2: shouldn't there be a hardware thing to do it, fn some button? [02:26] <_2> geek i'm sure there should be. but i have tested every possable fn+ combination [02:27] <_2> nothing seems to affect display at all [02:27] <_2> geek "partial problem is 'ati'" [02:28] <_2> so i was wondering if there was a "kernel" way to do it... [02:28] is anybody else having problems with http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ ? [02:31] <_2> woops i just flooded myself out of existance..... [02:34] <_2> i must add that to my list of "never do this's" ;/ [02:35] <_2> never search your irclog from within your irc client it's worse than "cat /dev/urandom" [02:37] juan: it opens ok here [02:37] yeah seams ok now, thx [02:37] can anyone help me figure out why kppp says no such device /dev/rfcomm0 when i try to connect using my bluetooth phone? [02:38] juan a couple of other people were having problems earlier downloading various different versions from all different mirrors, I think maybe some upgrades/maintainence might be happening at the moment [02:38] Mrunagi: what kind of phone do you have? [02:38] might not be the best time to do a straight download then :s [02:38] samsung instinct [02:39] i know it has something to do with hcid and rfcomm.conf.....but i cant really figure it out [02:39] <_2> HollowPoint good call they do try to schedual that sort of thing at night and on the weakend [02:40] Mrunagi: nice phone. Who's your service provider? Some of them like Verizon actually lock out a lot of Bluetooth features like OBEX that'll give you a lot of problems. [02:40] sprint......i unlocked the phone....it works i can do it in windows i just forgot how in kubuntu [02:41] <_2> problem is being in NZ it's not night for me, it's 1:45 in the afternoon here [02:42] <_2> HollowPoint heh can't be middle of the night everywhere ;/ [02:42] very true _2 still annoying though [02:43] would be ok if we got decent internet down here but we don't. I miss the UK with 8Meg download and unlimited bandwidth caps etc [02:43] I get 4 Meg speeds here with $1 per GB of download [02:43] <_2> HollowPoint heh i get 2k down ;/ [02:43] Mrunagi: can you see it when you run kbluemon? [02:44] i know that it pairs, it just wont actually dial out......it gets as far as initializing modem [02:48] Mrunagi: are you on kde3 or kde4? [02:54] i was woundering is an ipod compatible with linux??? [02:54] i was woundering is an ipod compatible with linux??? [02:57] devo: There are several ipod managers, but I have never used them [03:07] Is there a skin for Amaok that makes it look more gnome-like? [03:08] *Amarok === Carol-22 is now known as Carol22 [03:13] <_2> anyone know what might cause mc to not be able to execute commands ? [03:17] <_2> this is how i tested it after i noticed it didn't work correctly. # echo boo [03:17] <_2> Press any key to continue... [03:18] <_2> could use # ls or any other command, none work. [03:19] mc = midnightcommander? [03:19] <_2> wait. never mind. it's the "SHELL=" variable not set correctly. pfft. i withdraw my question ! [03:19] heh [03:19] lol [03:20] mc iz TeH pwnZorz [03:21] used it eons ago as norton commander [03:22] mmm... KDE4.1... [03:22] anyone have a google earth deb i could copy? (the googleearth-package to make it isn't working) [03:22] it's pretty [03:22] pekuja: agreed. [03:22] pekuja: and now stable :) [03:22] I'm not sure I like the main menu though... probably requires some getting used to [03:23] I had openoffice installed back when I was running Gnome, now that I'm running KDE 3/5/8, I no longer have it. Is there a special app for this? [03:23] pekuja: I actually like it now, just make it a bit bigger [03:23] <_2> Denestria well it "was based on" norton commander, yes. but there are some major differances. the implimentation of "fish://" for example and plain text extention files [03:23] whats fish:// ? [03:24] * _2 adds "export SHELL=/bin/sh" to /etc/profile [03:24] hi, sorry to ask but how do I receive a channellist for this server? ive never used irc before... [03:24] bleck, well it seems to be pretty nice but the Applications-menu specifically feels a little clunky to me [03:24] I guess the problem is that there's too much stuff in there to begin with [03:25] I'm sure this is pretty nice when I can use Favorites and Recently Used most of the time [03:25] <_2> bleck ssh file managment. open konqueror and type in fish:///user@hostname/ if you have an ssh account anywhere [03:25] pekuja: yeah, I know what you mean, but I still prefer it to a hover-foldout menu. [03:25] christhebliss: http://searchirc.com/search.php?SCHANS=1&SSORT=SIZE&N=freenode [03:26] thanks favro [03:26] _2: heh, thats cool. [03:26] <_2> err s_///_//_g [03:26] _2, way cool [03:26] <_2> indeed [03:27] <_2> and using it in mc from a console is kewlar still [03:28] help [03:28] * _2 thinks "don't you just love it when the kids come to linux..." [03:29] @christhebliss You forgot the slash. :) [03:29] <_2> lol [03:29]