| timboy | any news on a fix for the nvidia issues? | 02:54 |
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| RAOF | What nvidia issues? | 02:55 |
| RAOF | The 96 and 78 drivers not supporting our Xorg? No. | 02:55 |
| timboy | RAOF, sli isn't supported by 96 or 78 is it? | 02:56 |
| RAOF | Dunno. | 02:56 |
| timboy | grr... g2g bbl | 02:56 |
| RAOF | You'd only need those with a < geforce 4, though. Was SLI supported on any < gf4 cards? | 02:56 |
| Hew | Hey guys. I notice an abrowser package was recently made available to use instead of the firefox non-free branding. I was wondering where the discussion to introduce this package took place, and where I could find the logs? | 03:10 |
| === elkbuntu is now known as elky | ||
| DanaG | What does the unbranded 'abrowser' look like? | 03:29 |
| Arenlor | Evolution doesn't seem to work right | 03:46 |
| milos_ | i have a question about dialog asking for pass after resuming from suspend, | 03:46 |
| milos_ | what is package? | 03:47 |
| RAOF | milos_: gnome-screensaver, most likely. | 03:47 |
| Arenlor | if it's the screensaver then that may not be working | 03:48 |
| Hew | DanaG: It's called "A Web Browser" and has a light-blue globe icon. Apart from that, it's pretty much the same as Firefox. | 03:48 |
| milos_ | RAOF, i want to make whishlist | 03:48 |
| Hew | I really like it, and it got me thinking about the whole iceweasel thing again, which is why I was wondering if there was a discussion about abrowser that was logged somewhere. | 03:49 |
| milos_ | i think it should look similar to dialog you get when: gksudo app | 03:50 |
| RAOF | milos_: In what way like that? | 03:51 |
| Arenlor | who boy evolution is in bad shape right now | 03:51 |
| Hew | It's sounding like what happened to Debian is happening to Ubuntu now (bug 269656) | 03:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269656 in firefox-3.0 "AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269656 | 03:52 |
| RAOF | Arenlor: Works fine here. | 03:52 |
| Arenlor | My messages only show occasionally, and the preferences don't show at all, just an empty window | 03:53 |
| milos_ | RAOF, it should have round edges and I think it's transparent surface | 03:53 |
| RAOF | It's going to be transparent in front of a blank screen, but round edges would be OK :). | 03:54 |
| RAOF | milos_: It's already themable, though; you probably want to check in with the art team. | 03:55 |
| emet | is there some place I can get intrepid nightly builds? | 03:56 |
| Arenlor | ok odd, if I close evolution and launch it it works fine, if I close it and launch it again it stops working, repeat | 03:56 |
| milos_ | RAOF, sorry it isn't transparent but look much better than gnome-screensaver. I didn't know it's themable | 03:56 |
| RAOF | emet: You mean, builds of the install CDs? cdimage.ubuntu.com | 03:57 |
| RAOF | emet: If you mean builds of the packages in Intrepid, then you've got an incomplete understanding of the Ubuntu release process :) | 03:57 |
| emet | the CDs | 03:57 |
| RAOF | emet: cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily or cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live | 04:00 |
| emet | got it | 04:01 |
| emet | website is slow | 04:01 |
| danbh_intrepid | hey, there used to be a help doc somewhere on using a livecd, and chrooting into your system to run upgrade commands. Anyone know where that went? | 04:12 |
| dns53 | how is X handled now, i have stopped gdm but X is still there | 04:24 |
| bsnider | RAOF, there was a guy in here last night said nouveau hogged cpu time. is that correct? | 04:29 |
| RAOF | bsnider: Its possible; EXA has a certain amount of overhead, and for some things on old hardware it can be slower than unaccelerated. | 04:30 |
| ibkanat | I need some help setting up my pda with ubuntu 8.10 where should I go. i followed a tutorial for a pervious version and I think that I ma mostly there. my mda(phone/pda) shows active sync connected. But I dont know how to browse / sync | 04:30 |
| ibkanat | can I just type in rttp or something? | 04:31 |
| bsnider | RAOF, to your knowledge is SLI working with any driver in intrepid right now? | 04:33 |
| RAOF | I have no knowledge of that. I'd expect the 173 or 177 driver to support it, though. | 04:34 |
| bsnider | there was a guy in here last night that couldn't get to a gui at all no matter what he did, and he was onl SLI | 04:35 |
| DanaG | I only have one video card in my laptop.... and now the backlight is dead. =þ | 04:35 |
| mn | how can I go from 8.04.1 to 8.10 alpha 5? | 04:52 |
| Jordan_U | mn: Are you sure that you want to be running alpha software? You understand that there is basically no support? | 04:53 |
| mn | Yep. | 04:53 |
| danbh_intrepid | what is it? sudo sed -i "s/hardy/intrepid/g" /etc/apt/sources.list ??? dont run that!!! | 04:54 |
| mn | Jordan_U: so how do I upgrade? | 04:55 |
| Jordan_U | mn: update-manager -d | 04:55 |
| mn | Ah, muchas gracias. And if this is too buggy and stuff for me is there any way to downgrade again? | 04:56 |
| Jordan_U | danbh_intrepid: Even with alphas you should use update manger rather that changing sources.list and upgrading, you are after all looking for bugs in the supported upgrade method | 04:56 |
| Jordan_U | :) | 04:56 |
| Jordan_U | mn: No | 04:56 |
| mn | Hrmm, maybe I'll try it on a different partition then | 04:57 |
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| danbh_intrepid | heh, someone just told me that command yesterday, on answers.launchpad.net | 04:57 |
| danbh_intrepid | ironically, the upgrade process did fail from the command line | 04:58 |
| Jordan_U | danbh_intrepid: I don't think it's ironic at all :) | 04:58 |
| mn | is there any noticeable difference between HH and II (except bugs)? | 05:01 |
| danbh_intrepid | I have found there to be less old bugs, and more new bugs | 05:01 |
| danbh_intrepid | sounds like a line from "command" in redvsblue | 05:02 |
| mn | but other than bugs is there any noticeable difference? | 05:03 |
| buono | topic is fun | 05:04 |
| kevin21 | hey, how do i revert back to 8.04? | 05:06 |
| kevin21 | i just installed 8.10 and i lost my gui | 05:06 |
| mn | i don't think you can revert back | 05:06 |
| kevin21 | tabernac | 05:06 |
| danbh_intrepid | the command I gave didnt do anything? | 05:07 |
| umask001 | it seems pretty much the same to me. They made dual monitor stuff easier it looks like (though that looks broken) fixed an annoying problem with totem, and got us a newer version of flash that works much better (but still crashes some) | 05:07 |
| kevin21 | startx? | 05:07 |
| DanaG | hmm, linuxmint actually has some interesting ideas. http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_elyssa.php | 05:38 |
| DanaG | I'm sticking with Ubuntu, though. | 05:38 |
| danbh_intrepid | how did they get separated from ubuntu proper? why isnt their work being a part of ubuntu? | 05:39 |
| DanaG | Some of it violates things like the 'don't distribute broadcom firmware' stuff, or the | 05:40 |
| DanaG | the mp3 patent stuff. | 05:40 |
| DanaG | But other stuff could still be useful. | 05:40 |
| DanaG | Why don't they submit it? Beats me. | 05:40 |
| matr1x | id have tried mint except I didnt see a bleeding edge 64 bit version | 05:44 |
| LSD|Ninja | mint sucks anyway | 05:46 |
| DanaG | Yeah, I went back to official Ubuntu on the laptop I tried Mint on. | 05:54 |
| DanaG | But you have to admit, some of those ideas there are useful. | 05:55 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/261318 | 06:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 261318 in xorg "Regression: new Toshiba Laptop Support (tlsup) driver breaks Toshiba hotkeys; input device does not support 'kbd' input handler" [Undecided,New] | 06:05 |
| DanaG | For now, until I replace the inverter in the modern laptop... I'm stuck on the old (nv17, I think) one. | 06:05 |
| DanaG | Grr,,, new tlsup driver sucks... it doesn't report itself as a keyboard. | 06:09 |
| DanaG | Is there any tag, or such, that I can attach to get that bug a bit more attention? | 06:10 |
| DanaG | It's a definite regression (once you work around the other bug of broken acpi_fakekey). | 06:10 |
| ryanpg | anyone try using dispwin or xcalib to load icm profiles? | 06:39 |
| ryanpg | seems to have no effect for me | 06:39 |
| bsnider | RAOF, luke just uploaded a new pulse 9.12 | 06:42 |
| DanaG | Ooh. | 06:42 |
| DanaG | What's new in that version? | 06:43 |
| * DanaG goes to pulseaudio,org (I think) | 06:43 | |
| RAOF | bsnider: A new new one? | 06:43 |
| bsnider | bugfixes | 06:43 |
| DanaG | aah, my answer is there. | 06:43 |
| shirish | DanaG: hey | 06:43 |
| DanaG | Hello. | 06:44 |
| bsnider | RAOF, i thought you might be interested given your mad quest to get decent sound | 06:44 |
| shirish | DanaG: do you know how to extract a file from a .sh | 06:44 |
| shirish | DanaG: I want to extract a file from http://boincdl.ssl.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.2.15_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh | 06:44 |
| DanaG | try passing --help to the script. | 06:44 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, how long will the new one take to trickle down to the official mirror? | 06:46 |
| shirish | DanaG: do you mean sudo ./boinc_6.2.15_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh --help | 06:46 |
| shirish | DanaG: that one didn't work :( | 06:46 |
| DanaG | dang. | 06:46 |
| DanaG | you could try opening it in nano or such, as long as it's not too big. | 06:47 |
| DanaG | Yay: "Add new option to disable remixing from/to LFE and set it to on by default " | 06:47 |
| shirish | DanaG: its not too big | 06:47 |
| shirish | DanaG: would paste it somewhere and give the link here. | 06:48 |
| DanaG | argh.... what the heck? My touchpad sudenly went all crazy-glitchy. | 06:48 |
| shirish | DanaG: http://paste.ubuntu.com/46786/ | 06:48 |
| shirish | DanaG: any ideas would be good. | 06:49 |
| shirish | vishalrao: hey vishal | 06:49 |
| DanaG | hmm, I don't know what to do with that sh file. | 06:49 |
| DanaG | But it looks like there may be an actual archive file somewhere. | 06:50 |
| vishalrao | shirish: you are "shirishag" ? :-) | 06:50 |
| shirish | vishalrao: right on ;) | 06:50 |
| shirish | DanaG: right, its 4.2 mb .sh script | 06:50 |
| shirish | DanaG: if I run it extracts the archive and installs the boinc client | 06:51 |
| shirish | DanaG: I don't want to run, just extract a single file from the archive underneath | 06:51 |
| shirish | vishalrao: where do you live? | 06:51 |
| DanaG | Well, just open the archive. | 06:51 |
| vishalrao | shirish: pune. you? | 06:52 |
| shirish | DanaG: how do I do that? I know the archive is underneath it somewhere | 06:52 |
| shirish | vishalrao: pune as well. | 06:52 |
| shirish | vishalrao: do you go to PLUG meets or not? | 06:52 |
| vishalrao | shirish: never been to one, just on the mailing list :) | 06:53 |
| shirish | vishalrao: I read your mails on the list. | 06:53 |
| DanaG | Look from where the script is.... the actual archive should be somewhere underneath. | 06:53 |
| shirish | vishalrao: let's do this outside the channel. | 06:53 |
| shirish | DanaG: how do I get under the script? | 06:54 |
| shirish | DanaG: do you know anyway we could get the script to run and dump its contents on /tmp | 06:55 |
| DanaG | argh, I don't know how to explain it. Did you download the script as just a script, or were there other files within the thing it came from? | 06:56 |
| DanaG | If you look around in the folder tree, there should be the archive file somewhere. | 06:56 |
| shirish | DanaG: Its a 4.2 MB script, if I run it, it will install the boinc-client and manager and stuff. | 06:57 |
| DanaG | That pastebin'd thing sure doesn't look like 4.2 megabytes. | 06:57 |
| shirish | DanaG: right on | 06:58 |
| shirish | DanaG: so what do I do? | 06:58 |
| DanaG | Argh, I'm not sure how to explain it; it's a bit tricky to figure out in person. | 06:59 |
| DanaG | Somewhere along the line, the original 4.2 megabyte script, which contains some binary data inside it, self-extracted some other files. | 07:00 |
| DanaG | You tried running the original script with the --help parameter? | 07:00 |
| shirish | DanaG: yup, but no dice. | 07:01 |
| shirish | DanaG: would try again. | 07:01 |
| DanaG | Try running it under 'strace' | 07:01 |
| DanaG | it should spit out various filenames. | 07:01 |
| DanaG | strace ./whatever.sh | 07:02 |
| DanaG | or it may take strace sh ./whatever.sh | 07:02 |
| shirish | DanaG: I don't want the .sh to install, under strace it would install stuff anyway, wouldn't it? | 07:04 |
| shirish | DanaG: ? | 07:07 |
| DanaG | Hmm, well, I don't know what to do, then. | 07:07 |
| DanaG | Perhaps there's a channel about BOINC, or perhaps somebody in #ubuntu would be able to help? | 07:08 |
| Ayabara | any known nvidia-issues when going from hardy to intrepid? | 07:51 |
| RAOF | If you've got a card < geforce4, intrepid won't work. | 07:51 |
| RAOF | That's about the only gotcha I know. | 07:52 |
| Ayabara | RAOF: ok. should be fine with my 8600GT then. | 07:56 |
| Ayabara | I'm considering upgrading (my only system) from to 8.10 :) | 07:58 |
| Ayabara | eh. that made little sense | 07:58 |
| toogreen | hi there, will Intrepid Ibex support waking up from sleep on a EeePC installed on the SDHC? Any1 knows? | 08:05 |
| toogreen | Right now i run EeeXubuntu on the SDHC and thats the only thing I can´t do | 08:06 |
| DanaG | RAOF: you should say <= GeForce 4 MX, perhaps. | 08:18 |
| DanaG | What about the GeForce4 Ti, though? | 08:18 |
| crd1b | or just < geforce5 :> | 08:18 |
| DanaG | That's even better. | 08:18 |
| RAOF | Geforce4s are still supported by 173 aren't they? | 08:18 |
| DanaG | though 5 is FX. | 08:18 |
| crd1b | RAOF: nope | 08:18 |
| RAOF | Crap. | 08:18 |
| crd1b | nothing after 96.31 supports anything below the FX series | 08:18 |
| crd1b | err, 96.xx that is | 08:19 |
| DanaG | Especially not this false-advertized renumbered geforce2 card (that they call a 4). | 08:19 |
| RAOF | Sucks to have a not-terribly-old nvidia card. | 08:19 |
| DanaG | Also sucks to have an nvidia 8 or 9 series. Got crappy substrate? | 08:20 |
| DanaG | =þ | 08:20 |
| AnAnt | Hello, how can I configure a VPN connection in network-manager ? should I install a certain package ? | 08:20 |
| Ayabara | RAOF: crd1b: but my GeForce 8600M GT should be ok? | 08:23 |
| RAOF | Yes | 08:24 |
| bullgard4 | Ubuntu 8.04.1 does not support my webcam SilverCrest WC2130. I would like to download the kernel 2.6.27 in order to test if it supports my webcam. How can I dowwnload the kernel 2.6.27? In the past I had once trouble that downloading a new kernel interfered with proper functioning of my old kernel. How can I prevent this? | 08:32 |
| armornick | hey guys, how's intrepid looking? | 08:35 |
| TuTUXG | hi, i just want to make sure something here, is the hfs can be mounted with rw privileges already? (not hfs+) | 08:35 |
| TuTUXG | looking good armornick | 08:35 |
| armornick | I'm really interested in the guest account and the encrypted home folder | 08:36 |
| TuTUXG | well, im not using any one of those ;P | 08:37 |
| armornick | also, will intrepid continue to use the human theme? | 08:37 |
| TuTUXG | for alpha 5 it is | 08:38 |
| TuTUXG | altho the artwork is always the last thing to be fixed | 08:38 |
| armornick | i've seen some screenshots and it had another theme (which i didn't like) | 08:38 |
| armornick | off course, that's easily fixed | 08:39 |
| TuTUXG | hfs r+w anyone? (it seems to be working here) | 08:39 |
| TuTUXG | ya, they changed it back to human with a5 | 08:39 |
| RAOF | TuTUXG: hfs+ r/w has been working for ages. The trick is to always cleanly unmount it, because the kernel will refuse to write to an uncleanly unmounted hfs volume, and there are no native fsck.hfsplus tools ;) | 08:40 |
| TuTUXG | RAOF, thanks, so seems like i still need to compile fsck.hfsplus by myself | 08:41 |
| RAOF | Yup. | 08:41 |
| TuTUXG | used to do that following gentoo's wiki ;P | 08:41 |
| armornick | btw, when is pppoeconf getting a GUI? | 08:42 |
| RAOF | I believe network manager handles pppoe now. | 08:42 |
| TuTUXG | 日本沉没 | 08:43 |
| TuTUXG | lol | 08:43 |
| TuTUXG | ff3 is buggy... | 08:43 |
| TuTUXG | with flash contents | 08:44 |
| TuTUXG | maybe i should change back to flash9 | 08:44 |
| literal | yeah, flash10 is buggy | 08:44 |
| literal | youtube videos have artifacts, so I switched back to 9 | 08:45 |
| TuTUXG | will it be shipped with the Intrepid final? flash10? | 08:45 |
| TuTUXG | it's still in beta is it? | 08:46 |
| literal | I think flash on linux has always been in beta | 08:46 |
| TuTUXG | lol | 08:46 |
| armornick | what about gnash | 08:47 |
| RAOF | Works, but kinda. | 08:48 |
| literal | doesn't support nearly as much of flash as the macromedia one | 08:48 |
| TuTUXG | if google chrome can make it before Intrepid final, maybe i will use it to watch youtube instead of ff3 | 08:48 |
| RAOF | Swfdec seems to work better at the moment. | 08:48 |
| literal | TuTUXG: it won't | 08:48 |
| TuTUXG | ... | 08:48 |
| TuTUXG | we got about one month left | 08:49 |
| literal | don't hold your breath | 08:49 |
| literal | The Chromium site explains how to download the source code for Linux, Mac OS X, or Windows. Unfortunately, if you're eagerly awaiting a Mac version of Chrome, you shouldn't hold your breath. As the Mac OS X area of the Chromium developer site explains, "Right now, the Mac build is a work in progress that is much closer to the start than the finish." | 08:49 |
| literal | In fact, according to the latest status report, the Chrome developers have yet to get even the browser core running under Mac OS X. Rendering actual Web pages is still a long way off, to say nothing of a usable Aqua GUI. Then again, the Linux version is in arguably even worse shape.' | 08:49 |
| armornick | TuTUXG, use opera :p | 08:49 |
| TuTUXG | na... | 08:50 |
| TuTUXG | opera wont crash on flash? | 08:50 |
| armornick | or you could try the windows flash edition through wine (or vbox), right? | 08:51 |
| TuTUXG | well... | 08:51 |
| TuTUXG | wondering if i can wine chrome | 08:52 |
| armornick | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=13635 | 08:52 |
| armornick | doesn't look too good | 08:52 |
| TuTUXG | hi, im looking at it ;P | 08:53 |
| armornick | lol, sorry | 08:53 |
| zniavre | it crash a lot | 08:53 |
| TuTUXG | bronze, not too bad | 08:53 |
| TuTUXG | better than safari, lol | 08:53 |
| toogreen | any1 has tested Ibex on EeePC or know if it will wake up from sleep when installed on a SDHC? | 08:58 |
| armornick | I'd really use a distribution made for the EEE if I were you | 08:59 |
| armornick | saves you a lot of trouble | 08:59 |
| TuTUXG | like? | 09:00 |
| toogreen | I´m just wondering when they say ¨running out-of-the-box" on a EeePC it includes when installed on a SDHC card... Cuz right now im running EeeXubuntu and resume from sleep is not supported when running from a SDHC | 09:00 |
| armornick | Ubuntu-EEE | 09:01 |
| toogreen | I don´t want to override the default Xandros but I find it useful to carry Ubuntu on a SDHC card | 09:01 |
| toogreen | armornick, yeah thats what I always thought, and thats why im running EeeXubuntu atm, but I read several times that Ibex will support EeePC out of the box | 09:02 |
| toogreen | if so then I dont see why not go with it? | 09:02 |
| armornick | could be, but isn't a full ubuntu installation sorta overkill | 09:02 |
| toogreen | armornick, yeah, well thats why i run xubuntu as its slightly smaller | 09:04 |
| toogreen | armornick, from what I know EeeXubuntu is just Xubuntu with some tweaks to get the hardware working, but size is the same | 09:04 |
| toogreen | no? | 09:05 |
| toogreen | What im planning to do is just an upgrade | 09:05 |
| toogreen | a dist-upgrade | 09:05 |
| toogreen | from my current xubuntu | 09:05 |
| toogreen | that should work shouldnt it? | 09:06 |
| armornick | Ubuntu-EEE is only a couple hundred megs in size too | 09:06 |
| toogreen | armornick, ok, I didnt know about it... well I heard but didnt read on | 09:07 |
| toogreen | EeeXubuntu did the job for me, well still does now, the only annoyance is the resume from sleep not working, cuz i run from the SDHC | 09:08 |
| toogreen | other than that everything works A1 | 09:08 |
| toogreen | and the size is ok with me | 09:08 |
| toogreen | to be honest im also lazy to re-install everything from scratch :P | 09:09 |
| toogreen | prefer upgrade | 09:09 |
| toogreen | on my 15 inch ACER laptop i just been dist-upgrading since like Ubuntu 5.04 | 09:10 |
| toogreen | It still works great! | 09:10 |
| TuTUXG | nvidia driver is buggy... | 09:11 |
| toogreen | so if Im told Intrepid Ibex will support the EeePC, hell, ill just fire up the update-manager ;) | 09:11 |
| TuTUXG | with nvidia driver, every time i logout, x wont start unless reboot | 09:13 |
| TuTUXG | anybody got this? | 09:14 |
| toogreen | TuTUXG, is that news? ;) | 09:14 |
| toogreen | As Im not a gamer I tried to stick to Intel GMA chipsets... much less trouble! | 09:14 |
| TuTUXG | toogreen, hi, i just got my laptop back, i was stacking with windows for a month | 09:15 |
| toogreen | TuTUXG, hi, r u on Ibex? | 09:15 |
| TuTUXG | and the first thing i get to do is installing ibex | 09:16 |
| TuTUXG | right now? yes | 09:16 |
| TuTUXG | stucking* | 09:16 |
| TuTUXG | ... | 09:16 |
| armornick | you didn't install ibex into a vm? | 09:17 |
| TuTUXG | no, fresh a5 install | 09:17 |
| TuTUXG | on, on windows? no | 09:18 |
| TuTUXG | i only got like 512 ram | 09:18 |
| TuTUXG | that was an old ass desktop | 09:18 |
| armornick | yeah, but you could have installed it on heron | 09:18 |
| toogreen | TuTUXG, sorry I dont know much about nvidia and ibex.. came here for help too | 09:20 |
| TuTUXG | no, i didn't, i was trying to fix my laptop's motherboard | 09:20 |
| TuTUXG | toogreen, it's ok man, no need to be sorry | 09:20 |
| TuTUXG | it's nice that the new thinkpads allow you to switch from two vcards | 09:21 |
| TuTUXG | and with ddr3 memory, lol | 09:22 |
| toogreen | TuTUXG, but i did have many problems with nvidia on my desktop at home | 09:24 |
| toogreen | TuTUXG, had to try several different drivers, recompile etc | 09:24 |
| toogreen | TuTUXG, have you tried getting the latest BETA drivers from Nvidia site? | 09:24 |
| TuTUXG | with ibex? | 09:24 |
| TuTUXG | what card u have? | 09:24 |
| TuTUXG | ya, im using 177 now | 09:24 |
| TuTUXG | hardy was fine with that driver | 09:25 |
| toogreen | at home i have an old Fx-5200 | 09:25 |
| TuTUXG | not with ibex tho | 09:25 |
| toogreen | i think i have the same driver too, not sure | 09:26 |
| TuTUXG | well, the old card always got better support | 09:26 |
| toogreen | and running hardy at home | 09:26 |
| toogreen | so yeah, sorry heheh dunno about ibex.. But now I know I should WAIT before upgrading, lol, thanks | 09:26 |
| TuTUXG | the driver doesn't matter if it's an old card | 09:26 |
| TuTUXG | or that should be "doesn't matter that much" | 09:28 |
| toogreen | yeah well I thought so too, but i did have many problems with Hardy | 09:29 |
| TuTUXG | ya... me too | 09:29 |
| toogreen | from my experience with Ubuntu its often worth waiting about a month or two after the official release, to upgrade or install it. Before that, there are always several bugs | 09:30 |
| TuTUXG | but if u could do a fresh install of hardy.1, it should run pretty smooth | 09:30 |
| toogreen | at official release its ¨supposed¨ to be stable, but with the mass of users now trying it, tons of bugs r found | 09:31 |
| toogreen | like there was a huge difference between 8.04 and 8.04.1 | 09:31 |
| TuTUXG | well, it happens on lots of distros, not only ubuntu | 09:31 |
| toogreen | from my experience and others i heard | 09:31 |
| TuTUXG | unless u install debian... | 09:32 |
| RAOF | It _is_ stable. It's just that our definition of 'stable' (doesn't change) isn't the definition you're thinking of (doesn't _crash_) | 09:32 |
| TuTUXG | lol | 09:32 |
| toogreen | anyways, im out, seeya guys | 09:34 |
| TuTUXG | what's the default font view app's program? | 09:35 |
| TuTUXG | kde4 messed up my default programs... | 09:35 |
| TuTUXG | under gnome | 09:36 |
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| TheCan | hi - is there also an kubuntu-equivalent of this channel, or is this a mixed one ? | 11:36 |
| sploh | sorry, idk | 11:38 |
| sploh | i think its mixed one if you r using intrepid | 11:39 |
| TheCan | ok....well i was really shocked when i read kde3 support is going to be dropped in intrepid | 11:39 |
| sploh | i'm not sure about that , i use xfce4 & lxde | 11:40 |
| TheCan | kde4 is not as stable as kde3 and leaking many features kde3 had, apart from the looks it's really inferior to kde3 - why dont you guys keep the .kde4 scheme from intrepid to give the users the choice? | 11:41 |
| sploh | hmm, why don't you report it at launchpad | 11:42 |
| sploh | or forum | 11:42 |
| TheCan | where can i report this at launchpad exactly? i got there but i am a bit lost | 11:44 |
| TheInfinity | TheCan: then you should first post it into forum | 11:45 |
| TheCan | i see for the forum i need a separate account...? | 11:45 |
| sploh | yup | 11:46 |
| citizen42alpha | hello. | 11:47 |
| citizen42alpha | I am experiencing 403 Forbidden errors with the Intrepid repositories, is there a fix available ? | 11:47 |
| TheInfinity | wait some sec :) | 11:47 |
| sploh | sorry, idk, w8 for others reply | 11:48 |
| citizen42alpha | will do. =] | 11:48 |
| sploh | ;-) | 11:48 |
| s0u][ight | hello i just installed linux-image-2.6.26-5-generic, linux-headers-2.6.26-5-generic and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.26-5-generic | 11:49 |
| s0u][ight | how can i make my nvidia card work? | 11:50 |
| citizen42alpha | *whistles an upbeat tune* | 11:50 |
| SwedeMike | s0u][ight: when I installed 2.6.27-3 I had to remove and install nvidia-glx-177 | 11:51 |
| TheCan | well there are some discussions about this topic but always the same stupid "why not stick with 8.04 when you want kde3" argument, i hate people who post this nonsense! It's like when I post about asking for a feature in some new screen getting the answer "why dont you keep your old" | 11:51 |
| s0u][ight | SwedeMike, i don't have the intrepid repos :) | 11:51 |
| s0u][ight | downloading the files i need from launchpad | 11:52 |
| s0u][ight | that 177 can that differ? | 11:52 |
| SwedeMike | then just remove and re-install whatever nvidia driver you have. | 11:52 |
| s0u][ight | brb | 11:52 |
| SwedeMike | or, that's what I did to get it working anyway | 11:52 |
| citizen42alpha | still no suggestions regarding 403 errors ..... ? | 11:57 |
| Stevko | Maybe try another mirror? | 12:02 |
| Konstigt | s0u][ight: might be an idea to start with a fresh xorg.conf as well | 12:02 |
| s0u][ight | i have an nvidia geforce 8600M GT | 12:03 |
| TheCan | TheInfinity, sploh: ok i posted my opinion here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3096011.15 | 12:13 |
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| Ayabara | does intrepid break often for those of you using it as your primary system? I'm tempted to upgrade my only system :) | 12:35 |
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| citizen42alpha | I upgraded, only problem being repository errors. | 12:45 |
| citizen42alpha | solved by changing to a polish mirror =] | 12:45 |
| Ayabara | citizen42alpha: :) | 12:47 |
| literal | my experience wasn't as good | 12:49 |
| literal | for me, the 2.6.27 kernels have a bug which cripples most internet use, and the very latest one uses 100% while trying to connect to a wireless network, so I'm sticking with 2.6.26 | 12:50 |
| literal | (that is, it uses 100% cpu and never succeeds) | 12:50 |
| gourgi | ubuntuforums.org is down ? | 12:51 |
| Ayabara | literal: hm. now you went and scared me :p | 12:51 |
| Ayabara | I upgraded my laptop at work, and that went almost smooth | 12:52 |
| literal | Ayabara: they don't call it alpha for no reason :P | 12:52 |
| Ayabara | just had to sort out some issues with fglrx | 12:52 |
| Ayabara | hehe | 12:52 |
| mickep | hejdå fistelsork | 13:14 |
| gourgi | ubuntuforums.org is down for you too ?? | 13:18 |
| Hew | Hey guys. There is no virtualbox-ose-modules package for 2.6.27-3, and I'm getting errors when trying to build using module-assistant. Is anyone having success with virtualbox-ose on Intrepid? | 13:24 |
| gourgi | lHew: Sun's virtualbox v.2 runs fine here , if that helps you | 13:31 |
| Unksi | gourgi: probably doesnt, as only 1.66 and 2.x work with .27 kernels | 13:32 |
| mcscruff | lo all, does anyone have a mirror for 8.10 the cdimage.ubuntu seems to be down | 13:42 |
| gourgi | mcscruff: google's cached page seems to work ok http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:qfBYlF8SNBYJ:cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/alpha-5/+ubuntu+intrepid+iso&hl=el&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=gr&lr=lang_en|lang_el&client=firefox-a | 13:46 |
| IndyGunFreak | where can i download Intrepid? | 13:46 |
| IndyGunFreak | eh, nevermind... just found a torrent | 13:47 |
| gourgi | mcscruff: forget about the link before , use this http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ | 13:47 |
| mcscruff | not loading for me | 13:47 |
| IndyGunFreak | man, nobody is seeding the friggin torrent..lol | 13:47 |
| IndyGunFreak | mcscruff: where can you get the live CD?.. thsoe are all alternates | 13:48 |
| gourgi | mcscruff: amd 64? | 13:48 |
| mcscruff | nope | 13:49 |
| mcscruff | i386 | 13:49 |
| gourgi | mcscruff: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/alpha-5/intrepid-desktop-i386.iso | 13:49 |
| mcscruff | is that link working for you? | 13:49 |
| gourgi | mcscruff: does this work ? | 13:49 |
| mcscruff | not for me | 13:49 |
| gourgi | yes | 13:49 |
| mcscruff | hmm | 13:49 |
| IndyGunFreak | yeah.. its working | 13:49 |
| gourgi | mcscruff: wait, | 13:49 |
| mcscruff | im getting page cant be displayed | 13:49 |
| IndyGunFreak | mcscruff: that link works fine... i'm download from it right now. | 13:50 |
| gourgi | mcscruff: http://91.189.88.34/releases/intrepid/alpha-5/intrepid-desktop-i386.iso | 13:50 |
| mcscruff | ty | 13:50 |
| gourgi | mcscruff:does this work ? | 13:50 |
| mcscruff | dns must be screwed | 13:50 |
| mcscruff | working now :) | 13:50 |
| gourgi | mcscruff: it seems so | 13:50 |
| IndyGunFreak | hmm. | 13:51 |
| mcscruff | 6 mins to d/l :( | 13:51 |
| IndyGunFreak | i just used wget to get it, and the first one worked fine | 13:51 |
| IndyGunFreak | 6min?.. 15min.. :( | 13:51 |
| mcscruff | :) | 13:51 |
| gourgi | mcscruff: 6mins? my connection says about half an hour for this ! | 13:52 |
| mcscruff | i got a nice fast net connection :) Virgin media baby!! | 13:53 |
| ph | Hi there, i'm desperatly looking for the equivalent kubuntu command for "update-manager -d" to test intrepid | 14:38 |
| pawan | hi | 14:38 |
| pawan | !release | 14:38 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 14:38 |
| dankh | how to decode Monkey's Audio (*.ape) sound file ? | 14:39 |
| dankh | there is a package libjmac-java in universe but I don't know how to use this library to decode Monkey's audio file, there is no other package in the repositories to do this task | 14:41 |
| literal | mplayer can do it | 14:43 |
| dankh | I just install mplayer package and look at the man page ? | 14:44 |
| waan | dankh, there are a few players that can do ape | 14:44 |
| waan | dankh, do you just want to play the audio, or convert it? | 14:45 |
| dankh | waan: I want to decode the file in wave | 14:45 |
| dankh | actually I want to convert it to flac | 14:45 |
| waan | dankh, so you want to "convert" it? | 14:45 |
| dankh | yes | 14:45 |
| waan | dankh, http://aidanjm.wordpress.com/2007/02/04/converting-monkey%E2%80%99s-audio-ape-files-to-flac-in-ubuntu/ | 14:46 |
| dankh | I have already tried with this package | 14:47 |
| literal | or use mplayer -ao pcm | 14:47 |
| dankh | It doesn't work on Intrepid | 14:47 |
| literal | to dump it as wav | 14:47 |
| waan | dankh, then mplayer is your man | 14:47 |
| dankh | literal: ok I'll try mplayer, just curious, do you know which lib mplayer uses to decode ape ? | 14:47 |
| literal | it uses its own internal libavcodec | 14:48 |
| waan | dankh, afaik mplayer has it's own decoders in the binary | 14:48 |
| dankh | ah ok, great ! | 14:48 |
| waan | dankh, thats why mplayer is the bomb! | 14:48 |
| literal | mplayer something.ape -ao pcm:file=dump.wav | 14:48 |
| dankh | thank you guys | 14:48 |
| waan | no probs | 14:48 |
| dankh | :) | 14:48 |
| dankh | just for the info, the various "mac-3.99-u4-b5.deb" doesn't work anymore | 14:50 |
| ph8 | hey all, where can i get intrepid-latest from? cdimage.ubuntu.com doesn't appear to work | 14:54 |
| ph8 | (anymore) | 14:55 |
| alex_mayorga | is it normal to have a wmaster0 interface or is it a bug? | 15:06 |
| literal | normal | 15:08 |
| alex_mayorga | I have this problem where the laptop assocites with the AP just fine, but there's no traffic, not even to the gatewat | 15:09 |
| literal | I've had some networking problems with the 2.6.27 kernels, had to downgrade to 2.6.26 | 15:11 |
| literal | specifically, this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/264019 | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 264019 in linux "unable to visit some websites and ftpsites with 2.6.27-2" [Undecided,New] | 15:12 |
| alex_mayorga | sounds like a weird bug that one | 15:15 |
| literal | yep | 15:16 |
| doggymenz | is Iceweasel in the repo? | 15:46 |
| jbroome_ | yeah, but it's called firefox | 15:47 |
| doggymenz | yeah, but i dont want firefox | 15:48 |
| doggymenz | i want iceweasel | 15:48 |
| doggymenz | cuz firefox 3.0.2 force me eula, i dont like | 15:48 |
| jbroome_ | oh lord | 15:49 |
| Stevko | ABrowser 3 is an unbranded version of the popular Firefox webbrowser; | 15:49 |
| Stevko | Maybe that? | 15:50 |
| doggymenz | why they dont just use iceweasel instead of abrowser? | 15:50 |
| Stevko | Hm, abrowser installs firefox, so not. | 15:50 |
| jbroome_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallIceweasel | 15:51 |
| jbroome_ | the google, it does wonders | 15:51 |
| doggymenz | i dont like google, read this, read that, i want it in repo | 15:51 |
| Stevko | doggymenz, I use epiphany and I like it more than firefox / try that | 15:52 |
| jbroome_ | wow | 15:52 |
| Volkodav | anybody has nvidia problem with 2.6.27.3 kernel ? | 15:53 |
| IdleOne | doggymenz: you don't likie firefox, you don't like google. so what you do like is for other poeple to reasearch for you and tell you exactly what to do? try Windows | 15:54 |
| doggymenz | Volkodav, no it work fine for me | 15:54 |
| Volkodav | hmm | 15:54 |
| doggymenz | IdleOne, i like a computer that "just works" without having to google, read this, read that, type commands in terminal, etc | 15:54 |
| Volkodav | mine won't see nvidia driver | 15:54 |
| jbroome_ | doggymenz: get a mac | 15:54 |
| Volkodav | it should work with 177 right ? | 15:54 |
| IdleOne | doggymenz: use windows. | 15:54 |
| doggymenz | i dont like apple or microsoft, they are assholes | 15:55 |
| TeLLuS | Volkodav: Worked when I tried it with 177, but I switched back to 2.6.26 kernel with 177.. | 15:55 |
| doggymenz | microsoft is straight up honest about being assholes though | 15:55 |
| IdleOne | Linux is not like that. We use windows because it is not perfect and things break but we have the right to fix it if we can | 15:55 |
| doggymenz | apple is sneaky about it, and pretends to be cool, while being assholes | 15:55 |
| IdleOne | !language | 15:55 |
| ubottu | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 15:55 |
| IdleOne | s/windows/linux | 15:56 |
| doggymenz | Volkodav, yes it should, but you might need to delete 177.68 so you only have 177.70 else there is a conflict, check launchpad | 15:56 |
| Volkodav | well it works with 177 on 27.2 and not 27.3 ? | 15:56 |
| doggymenz | 27.3 works with 177 too | 15:56 |
| doggymenz | just you need run some commands | 15:56 |
| doggymenz | manually | 15:56 |
| Volkodav | like what commands? | 16:04 |
| tretle | where do you ask for packages to be added to the next release | 16:12 |
| tretle | plugins in apps as default etc? | 16:13 |
| doggymenz | Volkodav, they are on launchpad | 16:13 |
| Volkodav | opk I'll check it out I am in Mac now | 16:13 |
| doggymenz | Volkodav, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/269513/comments/2 | 16:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269513 in linux "Following new Kernel 2.6.27-3 nvidia driver fails to get load" [Undecided,New] | 16:14 |
| Volkodav | hmm why is is saying sudo aptitude reinstall linux-image-2.6.27-1-generic ? | 16:15 |
| Volkodav | it is 2.27-3 isn't it? | 16:15 |
| ph8 | is the 'failure while instlaling base packages' familiar to anyone? (intrepid-latest over KVM) | 16:17 |
| Turski | is intrepid's samba broken or something? | 16:27 |
| Turski | can't add shares | 16:28 |
| doggymenz | dont know, i dont use samba | 16:29 |
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| tretle | Turski - Its broken but if you go into terminal and type sudo nautilus and share a file from there it will work | 17:03 |
| slytherin | is bluetooth file transfer working for anyone in intrepid? | 17:14 |
| khc | I just upgraded to 8.10 and both the single quote and double quote stopped working, instead it started acting like the compose key, any ideas? | 17:19 |
| Turski | tretle: i am using kde | 17:22 |
| Turski | hmm... but maybe it works with dolphin | 17:22 |
| slytherin | khc: what is a compose key? | 17:23 |
| khc | Hitting single quote + e becomes é, and so on | 17:24 |
| tretle | Turski - I'm not sure then, there is a problem with it on gnome where you have to be admin to share files, if you could try sudo dolphin and tell me if that works that would be great | 17:27 |
| Turski | tretle: samba options dialog didn't even open | 18:15 |
| Turski | oh... it did... didn't with kdesudo ;P | 18:16 |
| Turski | but options dialog closes (crashes) when trying to add folder to shares | 18:17 |
| tretle | ah, probably a kde specific problem then. | 18:18 |
| Turski | but in kde control center most samba options are greyed out | 18:20 |
| Konstigt | Turski: yes it its. | 18:34 |
| nekostar | Konstigt: no it's not. | 18:34 |
| nekostar | >.> | 18:34 |
| Konstigt | Turski: oops, thought you asked the question right now, had couple of pages of scrollback :) | 18:34 |
| nekostar | <.< | 18:34 |
| nekostar | lol | 18:35 |
| nekostar | i was just messing with u | 18:35 |
| nekostar | :< | 18:35 |
| DanaG | ←_← →_→ ↑_↑ ↓_↓ | 19:15 |
| DanaG | Anybody know what file controls what lock-dialog theme is used in gnome-screensaver? I want to get back the default non-minty one (after starting from a system installed with linuxmint). | 19:18 |
| danbh_intrepid | what do you have now? | 19:23 |
| danbh_intrepid | DanaG: ^ | 19:24 |
| DanaG | I purged all Mint packages, and upgraded it to Intrepid. | 19:25 |
| danbh_intrepid | ubuntu? | 19:26 |
| DanaG | Yeah. | 19:26 |
| danbh_intrepid | well, I don't know, but this command may help: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ | 19:27 |
| danbh_intrepid | yes ^ | 19:27 |
| DanaG | Oh, I figured it out... it's using the default wallpaper defined in the wallpapers xml file. | 19:28 |
| DanaG | I'm purging and reinstalling the ubuntu-wallpapers package. | 19:28 |
| DanaG | nope... that didn't do it. | 19:31 |
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| DanaG | One bug I have: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/261318 | 19:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 261318 in xorg "Regression: new Toshiba Laptop Support (tlsup) driver breaks Toshiba hotkeys; input device does not support 'kbd' input handler" [Undecided,New] | 19:59 |
| DanaG | It's a regression in 2.6.26. | 19:59 |
| DanaG | Odd, on my other laptop, my swap space is 100% in use. | 20:01 |
| DanaG | Yet, my RAM has plenty of space (being used for cache). | 20:01 |
| danbh_intrepid | I so hope they work out keyboard issues | 20:03 |
| danbh_intrepid | my repeat keys are too fast, so sometimes, I geeet accidental repeats. | 20:03 |
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| milosz | how can i install additional locale support? | 20:05 |
| milosz | i couldn't find anything related to that | 20:06 |
| milosz | ow nvm | 20:06 |
| milosz | omg | 20:11 |
| milosz | the Language Support window really needs some usability people to look at it | 20:11 |
| milosz | "Apply", "Cancel", "OK"? how's that for Windowsisms | 20:11 |
| DanaG | Grr.... stupid quodlibet isn't listing any files. | 20:12 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quodlibet/+bug/155348 | 20:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 155348 in quodlibet "Filesystem browser stops listing files with GtkWarning" [Medium,Triaged] | 20:12 |
| hudnix | Howdy. After doing the latest partial dist-upgrade of Intrepid, nvidia-glx-177 module won't install. Anyone else having problems? I'm using a geforce 6200. | 20:37 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-177/+bug/261816 | 20:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 261816 in linux-restricted-modules-envy-2.6.24 "nvidia: Multiple versions in DKMS" [Medium,In progress] | 20:41 |
| hudnix | DanaG: thanks! | 20:43 |
| _rp | hi guys, hwo do i go about setting dns settings from the command line? | 20:44 |
| hudnix | _rp: dns client or server settings? | 20:45 |
| _rp | client | 20:46 |
| _rp | but nm, found it :) | 20:46 |
| _rp | ./etc/resolv.conf | 20:46 |
| hudnix | ok :) | 20:46 |
| DanaG | argh, what keeps muting my durn PCM control? | 20:48 |
| DanaG | It's really annoying. | 20:48 |
| tretle | I would like to propose the inclusion of this album art thumbnailer for nautilus in 9.04 | 20:49 |
| tretle | http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotqr1.png | 20:49 |
| DanaG | Grr, stupid 48KHz-only sound chip... | 20:54 |
| DanaG | and for some reason, the PulseAudio sampling is extremely crackly. | 20:54 |
| DanaG | Either that... or the amp just sucks. | 20:54 |
| DanaG | Nope, still crackles on headphones. | 20:54 |
| lubosz | hi, is there a problem with memset in gcc? | 20:55 |
| WelshDragon | Hey, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/alpha-5/ <--- Is that down? Or is it just a problem with me? And are there any mirrors? | 20:55 |
| lubosz | error: ‘memset’ was not declared in this scope | 20:55 |
| keepsake | alpha5 has no hyphen | 20:56 |
| keepsake | WelshDragon: sorry, that's not right | 20:56 |
| keepsake | WelshDragon: yeah, the site is down | 20:56 |
| WelshDragon | keepsake, OK, Do you know of any mirrors? | 20:57 |
| keepsake | WelshDragon: what type of system do you have? | 21:03 |
| keepsake | i386/x86_64? | 21:04 |
| WelshDragon | The disc i want is the i386 alternate | 21:04 |
| keepsake | try here | 21:05 |
| keepsake | http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Ubuntu-Intrepid-Ibex-Download-39147.html | 21:05 |
| WelshDragon | They all just link to the same server, thanks anyway. | 21:08 |
| keepsake | oh, sorry | 21:08 |
| lubosz | my xserver bugs big time, it does not refresh the window when i change tabs | 21:09 |
| lubosz | not in pidgin nor in firefox | 21:09 |
| lubosz | or refreshes it partially | 21:09 |
| keepsake | WelshDragon: maybe look for a torrent then | 21:09 |
| lubosz | should i post a bug report? | 21:09 |
| lubosz | does anyone have problems with bluetooth mice? | 21:10 |
| lubosz | mine does not connect automatically... | 21:10 |
| lubosz | that feature was removed :D | 21:10 |
| lubosz | "sudo hidd --search" has to be typed | 21:10 |
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| Arodon | what's the proper way to shut down the NetworkManager service now? (including things like wpa_supplicant that it loads) The old method was to use scripts in /etc/dbus-1/event.d/ but they aren't part of the latest packages | 21:17 |
| * burner wonders why you'd want to shut down NetworkManager | 21:18 | |
| burner | i would do "sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManger stop" | 21:18 |
| lubosz | /etc/ini.d/networking stop ? | 21:18 |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| erle- | will 8.10 have firefox 3.1? | 21:21 |
| lubosz | erle-: its does not atm ^^ | 21:22 |
| Arodon | mm lubosz's idea would probably work. Using Network Manager stop left wpa_supplicant running, and also a dnsmasq process, but I'm not sure that it was started by NM | 21:22 |
| lubosz | maybe because 3.1 isnt out yet | 21:22 |
| erle- | but it will come out in october afaik | 21:23 |
| erle- | and 3.0 was in 8.04 very early, too | 21:23 |
| Arodon | I'm doing some ICS stuff that's a bit too complicated for NM at this point, but really gets in the way when you try to use ifconfig etc to do things the old fashioned way | 21:23 |
| lubosz | hm, would make sense, but i dont know who decides about versions | 21:23 |
| lubosz | and since 3.1 wasnt tested | 21:23 |
| lubosz | 3.1a2 is out | 21:24 |
| lubosz | lets put it on the repos ^^ | 21:25 |
| Arodon | we might see a 3.1 backport, but it's not as big an upgrade as it was moving to 3.0, so I'm sure it's not as critical to the devs | 21:25 |
| erle- | Arodon, it is a very big upgrade, more than the little number change suggests | 21:25 |
| erle- | it has a completely new javascript engine for example | 21:25 |
| Arodon | even so we're past feature freeze, so it won't be showing up for a while at least | 21:26 |
| lubosz | Version 3.1, codenamed Shiretoko,[24] is planned to include support for the <video> and <audio> tags as defined in the HTML 5 specification. | 21:26 |
| lubosz | sounds usefull | 21:26 |
| Arodon | good point on the js engine though (TraceMonkey?) | 21:26 |
| erle- | i heard it will be 10 to 15 times faster than the old one | 21:27 |
| erle- | it is much more multithreaded, too | 21:28 |
| lubosz | oO | 21:28 |
| lubosz | 15 times... | 21:28 |
| lubosz | they rewrite the whole thing for ff 4.0 | 21:28 |
| lubosz | looking forward to this, since ff3.0 is overloaed | 21:28 |
| erle- | every rendering is a thread now which doent slow down the user interface any more | 21:29 |
| Arodon | hm anyone else having issues with lots of hard drive access->slow responsiveness in the location bar? | 21:30 |
| lubosz | any tab should be a thread too | 21:30 |
| WelshDragon | Yes Arodon | 21:30 |
| lubosz | like in googles browser demo | 21:30 |
| erle- | lubosz, it is | 21:31 |
| Arodon | I haven't used chrome much, but I feel like their OmniBar is what the AwesomeBar should have been in 3.0, as it is it's an outstanding idea with an immature implementation | 21:32 |
| lubosz | i'm missing my search engine field with wikipedia. youtube etc | 21:32 |
| lubosz | in chrome | 21:33 |
| lubosz | where i can switch search engine and dont have to type the sites name | 21:33 |
| Arodon | do they have a keyword-search capability yet? | 21:33 |
| lubosz | in firefox? | 21:33 |
| Arodon | Chrome | 21:34 |
| Arodon | like in Firefox I type "wp $SEARCH" into the location bar | 21:34 |
| Arodon | or yt for youtube | 21:34 |
| lubosz | interesting.. | 21:34 |
| lubosz | didnt knwo that | 21:34 |
| lubosz | searches in google fpr "wp $SEARCH" when i type that | 21:35 |
| Arodon | yeah you have to add the keyword manually | 21:35 |
| Arodon | the easiest way is to right-click on any search field | 21:35 |
| lubosz | "wp lolcat"? | 21:35 |
| Arodon | and click the Add a Keyword for this search option | 21:36 |
| lubosz | google still | 21:36 |
| lubosz | hm | 21:36 |
| Arodon | another option: | 21:36 |
| Arodon | go into the dialog for managing the search engines | 21:36 |
| Arodon | and you can add keywords in there | 21:36 |
| Arodon | ok found a Mozilla page about it http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/smart-keywords.html | 21:37 |
| lubosz | ah | 21:38 |
| lubosz | i c | 21:38 |
| lubosz | nice | 21:38 |
| kane77 | wow I have to say: "Kudos to Ubuntu devs!!" I am testing intrepid on my laptop and wifi works without problems and even on places where it worked only with ndiswrapper previously (since fwcutter is limited to TXPower of 27).. There are still some crashes present but it's alpha.. | 22:23 |
| TheCan | kane77, on which laptop are you testing it ? | 22:23 |
| kane77 | TheCan, mine ;) (HP nx7400) | 22:24 |
| TheCan | ;) | 22:24 |
| TheCan | i'm buying one with the new montevina platform soon, let's see how the new intel hardware will work with ubuntu | 22:25 |
| pwnguin | interesting | 22:25 |
| pwnguin | the url when i start up firefox today is chrome://ubufox/content/mozeula.html | 22:25 |
| kane77 | it has b43xx wireless and I had problems before.. (before 8.04 I used ndiswrapper and it mostly worked, but in 8.04 only b43 module worked, but had very low signal) | 22:26 |
| TheCan | pwnguin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=919444 | 22:27 |
| pwnguin | it's too bad firefox's branding is part of usability | 22:28 |
| pwnguin | incredibly fucking ironic, given that phoenix was completely unofficial | 22:31 |
| pwnguin | TheCan: it's the front page on slashdot right now; I just thought it was wierd that it used "chrome:" | 22:35 |
| milosz | the relation to Google Chrome is very indirect | 22:36 |
| lukehasnoname | Is cdimage.ubuntu.com down? And if so, is there a mirror containing the alpha 5? | 22:39 |
| Stevko | What is this thing I keep reading about firefox eula? | 22:40 |
| bsnider | there's a firefox eula now | 22:40 |
| bsnider | that's basically it | 22:40 |
| bsnider | it's how they've chsoen to protect their trademarks | 22:41 |
| Stevko | Well, since I removed firefox long time ago, then I have nothing to worry about. | 22:41 |
| lukehasnoname | I thought there was always a EULA | 22:41 |
| lukehasnoname | in terms of their logo and name | 22:41 |
| bsnider | no | 22:41 |
| bsnider | not until 3.0.2 | 22:41 |
| lukehasnoname | Jaunty jackalope | 22:49 |
| lukehasnoname | really | 22:49 |
| TheCan | this eula issue sucks | 22:50 |
| lukehasnoname | true | 22:52 |
| bsnider | it's really boring | 22:52 |
| bsnider | use another browser | 22:52 |
| lukehasnoname | abrowser | 22:53 |
| Stevko | epiphany | 22:53 |
| lukehasnoname | Firefox extensions rule | 22:53 |
| bsnider | there are other reasons to avoid firefox. like the fact that it's slow. or the bad flash support | 22:54 |
| bsnider | or the fact that it's manufactured in a sweatshop in southeast asia | 22:55 |
| lukehasnoname | mhm | 22:55 |
| lukehasnoname | it's only slow on my USB install, it locks up my system so I've started using opera there | 22:56 |
| lukehasnoname | but on my laptop it works fine | 22:56 |
| lubosz | i have some strange pc beeps when booting Oo | 23:02 |
| lubosz | my splash does not appear either | 23:02 |
| DanaG | Argh, anyone know what would cause a samba server to yield "unable to locate network share" (or something like that) on trying to open a share? | 23:02 |
| RAOF | DanaG: Care to step into #nouveau? | 23:16 |
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| bsnider | i don't think nouveau would cause a samba problem | 23:18 |
| RAOF | True. But they seem to be a bit interested in "nouveau's slower than nv" :) | 23:19 |
| bsnider | how many guys work on nouveau? | 23:19 |
| DanaG | Hmm, I figured out the samba thing. | 23:20 |
| DanaG | I had to chmod o+rx my home (since the shares are under it). | 23:20 |
| RAOF | bsnider: Some? 4 or 5 are the core, pretty much. | 23:22 |
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