hwilde | what is the ultimate fix for resolution before submitting bug reports | 02:02 |
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hwilde | reinstall all of x ? | 02:06 |
RAOF | The fix depends on the problem, generally. | 02:06 |
hwilde | borked resolution | 02:08 |
hwilde | short of clean reinstall, any way to fix it? | 02:09 |
RAOF | Again, depends on the cause of the problem. Generally speaking, access to your Xorg.0.log is required for any debugging. | 02:09 |
hwilde | yeah thats what I told this guy | 02:11 |
hwilde | http://pastebin.com/f1ff38ad5 | 02:11 |
hwilde | 1761: (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (width too large for virtual size) | 02:11 |
RAOF | Ah, that old chesnut. | 02:11 |
hwilde | lol | 02:12 |
hwilde | 1766: (--) VESA(0): Virtual size is 800x600 (pitch 800) | 02:12 |
hwilde | holyguyver_, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf again plz | 02:12 |
holyguyver_ | hw what is the pastebinit cammand to do that again? | 02:13 |
holyguyver_ | hwilde, | 02:13 |
hwilde | pastebinit -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 02:13 |
holyguyver_ | http://pastebin.com/f4e02078a | 02:14 |
hwilde | there's nothing in it now? | 02:15 |
holyguyver_ | I guess not | 02:15 |
holyguyver_ | hwilde, now look at what you did :p | 02:16 |
hwilde | get up to the latest version 2.6.24-16-generic is from like... April | 02:17 |
holyguyver_ | hwilde, as I said I have that, I just simply need to re-log into that. | 02:17 |
hwilde | do it | 02:17 |
hwilde | RAOF, sry this guy has been complaining in #ubuntu all day | 02:19 |
hwilde | like he was there when I woke up this morning | 02:19 |
holyguyver | hwilde, I am back | 02:21 |
hwilde | yeah I see you | 02:22 |
hwilde | what kernel | 02:22 |
holyguyver | alright, so tell me to pastebinit again | 02:22 |
holyguyver | 2.6.19 | 02:22 |
holyguyver | hw? | 02:24 |
holyguyver | hwilde, | 02:24 |
hwilde | are you gonna pastebinit or what | 02:25 |
hwilde | xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log | 02:25 |
holyguyver | hwilde, Yes whenever you tell me the cammand | 02:25 |
hwilde | pastebinit -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 02:25 |
hwilde | pastebinit -i /var/logl/Xorg.0.log | 02:26 |
holyguyver | http://pastebin.com/f2c8c3453 | 02:26 |
holyguyver | hwilde, there | 02:26 |
holyguyver | Unable to read from: /var/logl/Xorg.0.log | 02:26 |
hwilde | its just /var/ log | 02:26 |
hwilde | typo | 02:27 |
holyguyver | Well you typed /var/logl | 02:27 |
hwilde | you've been doing this all day get with the program | 02:27 |
hwilde | don't you know about the tab key you dont have to type everything | 02:27 |
holyguyver | http://pastebin.com/f370cd250 | 02:28 |
hwilde | ok so you're using nv driver now | 02:28 |
hwilde | that is a step in the right direction | 02:28 |
hwilde | !nvidia | holyguyver | 02:29 |
ubottu | holyguyver: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 02:29 |
holyguyver | hwilde, wel already went through all of this | 02:29 |
holyguyver | I use EnvyNG | 02:29 |
hwilde | ok so configure your monitor | 02:29 |
hwilde | did you read the log | 02:29 |
hwilde | 491 (II) NV(0): Configured Monitor: Using default hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz | 02:29 |
holyguyver | hwilde, it will not allow me to configure it remember. | 02:30 |
hwilde | 492 (II) NV(0): Configured Monitor: Using default vrefresh range of 50. | 02:30 |
hwilde | 513 (II) NV(0): Configured Monitor: Using default vrefresh range of 50. | 02:30 |
hwilde | (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range) | 02:30 |
hwilde | it's not using the resolution you want because of the default hsync and vrefresh | 02:30 |
holyguyver | hwilde, it will not allow me to configure it remember. it keeps on reverting back. | 02:30 |
hwilde | RAOF, last chance before reinstalling from scratch? | 02:31 |
holyguyver | hwilde, we already did the last chance 12 hours ago :'( | 02:31 |
hwilde | submit a bug report then | 02:32 |
holyguyver | hwilde, I don't know how :'( | 02:32 |
hwilde | !bug | holyguyver | 02:33 |
ubottu | holyguyver: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 02:33 |
holyguyver | hwilde, So as I said when I do a reinstall I now know to never ever evere ever ever update my kernam & headers again, because it keeps on causing this problem. | 02:33 |
hwilde | that would be your choice | 02:34 |
hwilde | I like to get all the updates | 02:34 |
hwilde | live on the edge | 02:34 |
holyguyver | hwilde, every time I go to file a bug report it keeps asking me to create an account with launchpad. | 02:34 |
hwilde | and then | 02:35 |
holyguyver | I choose not to create an account | 02:35 |
* hwilde blank stare | 02:35 | |
holyguyver | So I am unable to file bug reports. | 02:36 |
Hobbsee | so... | 02:38 |
hwilde | so it only takes like 20minutes to reinstall | 02:39 |
hwilde | assuming fast enough cdrom and harddrive write speed | 02:39 |
holyguyver | hwilde, Yes but first I have to backup my 10GBs of HOMe & my 100 plus customely added apps. | 02:40 |
holyguyver | Which is what I am doing right noe | 02:41 |
holyguyver | now | 02:41 |
hwilde | how much free space do you have | 02:41 |
hwilde | just make a new partition in the free space and install there | 02:41 |
holyguyver | I am not sure, that is hard to find out in Natue*** | 02:41 |
holyguyver | The file manager :p | 02:41 |
hwilde | type in "df -ha" | 02:42 |
holyguyver | hwilde, I have 4 partisions as I already told you but I have trouble figuring out how to install my home partision on another partision | 02:42 |
hwilde | holyguyver, specify your vrefresh and hsync in the xorg.conf to get rid of the errors | 02:46 |
hwilde | 513: (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range) | 02:46 |
hwilde | 517: (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) | 02:47 |
hwilde | and specify the default mode 1024x768 | 02:48 |
holyguyver | hwilde, how do I specify that, if I pastbin my xorg can you specify that for me? | 02:49 |
hwilde | what kinda monitor | 02:50 |
hwilde | want to see mine? | 02:50 |
holyguyver | hwilde, Gateway EV700 | 02:50 |
hwilde | dont be jealous now http://pastebin.com/f154ed97a | 02:50 |
hwilde | HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 | 02:52 |
hwilde | VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0 | 02:52 |
hwilde | Option "dpms" | 02:52 |
hwilde | put that in Section "Monitor" | 02:52 |
holyguyver | Yeah can you just pastbin what I need then I can delete my xorg.conf & fill it with yours | 02:52 |
holyguyver | yours for me | 02:52 |
hwilde | don't be lazy just add those three lines where I told you | 02:53 |
holyguyver | hwilde, I don't know where to add them | 02:53 |
nullack | Why specify hard coded display values in xorg?? | 02:53 |
nullack | It leads to trouble | 02:53 |
holyguyver | hwilde, I am not being lazy, I do not understand what you are directing me to do | 02:53 |
hwilde | he has errors in his Xorg.0.log | 02:54 |
hwilde | 513: (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range) | 02:54 |
hwilde | 517: (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) | 02:54 |
hwilde | i think specifying them would get rid of those errors | 02:55 |
nullack | Upgrade to Intrepid and go minimal xorg :) IMHO | 02:55 |
nullack | Provided its not a production machine and hes willing to test :) | 02:55 |
hwilde | yes thank you | 02:55 |
hwilde | live on the edge!! | 02:55 |
nullack | I do :) | 02:55 |
hwilde | it's already broken | 02:55 |
hwilde | what's the worst that could happen | 02:55 |
holyguyver | nullack, it is a production machine | 02:56 |
RAOF | nullack: I'm not sure that would work. I'd _guess_ that the underlying problem here is a problem with the monitor's DDC/EDID reporting. | 02:56 |
hwilde | yeah | 02:56 |
hwilde | thanks Gateway | 02:56 |
holyguyver | hwilde, you have to realize this is one of those old two foot thick monitors. | 02:56 |
* hwilde knows | 02:56 | |
hwilde | what a gateway ev700 is | 02:56 |
hwilde | ty | 02:56 |
holyguyver | Yes | 02:56 |
nullack | ROAF He can pull EDID | 02:56 |
hwilde | now are you going to specify them or what | 02:57 |
nullack | Morning Chris, BTW :) | 02:57 |
holyguyver | hwilde, Specify what? | 02:57 |
hwilde | http://pastebin.com/m6dfb42dc | 02:59 |
holyguyver | hwilde, so I replace my xorgconf with that? | 03:01 |
hwilde | no you just keep your current broken config | 03:01 |
holyguyver | I do? :'( | 03:01 |
hwilde | no I was being sarcastic. what you said is what you should do | 03:03 |
hwilde | what are you afraid of breaking it | 03:03 |
hwilde | it's already broken | 03:03 |
holyguyver | hwilde, Alright, so how do I open xorg again? | 03:03 |
holyguyver | gksu gedit /src/x11/xorg.conf | 03:04 |
holyguyver | ? | 03:04 |
hwilde | close | 03:04 |
holyguyver | hwilde, then what is it? | 03:04 |
hwilde | locate xorg.conf | 03:04 |
holyguyver | gksu gedit /src/x11/locate/xorg.conf ? | 03:05 |
hwilde | no just type in | 03:05 |
hwilde | locate xorg.conf | 03:05 |
holyguyver | /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 03:06 |
holyguyver | Alright I am now going to restart x & I will be back in a few minutes to tell you how it reverted back :p | 03:08 |
holyguyver | hwilde, | 03:08 |
hwilde | minutes? | 03:08 |
hwilde | ctrl+alt+backspace | 03:08 |
holyguyver | hwilde, You are my new God, it worked. | 03:10 |
hwilde | http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=125368 | 03:12 |
hwilde | Reload this Page Gateway EV700 CRT Monitor Refresh Rates | 03:12 |
hwilde | copied the monitor section right outta the page | 03:12 |
hwilde | google ftw | 03:12 |
hwilde | holyguyver, you should probably make a backup of that file now. | 03:12 |
holyguyver | How do I back it up? | 03:13 |
hwilde | sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.before-i-messed-it-up | 03:13 |
holyguyver | Alright, thank you. | 03:14 |
holyguyver | Bows down & worships hwilde | 03:15 |
hwilde | now go buy a better monitor | 03:16 |
hwilde | you know they have autodetect now | 03:16 |
hwilde | since like the 90s | 03:16 |
hwilde | you can get like 22" widescreen lcd for $200 | 03:17 |
holyguyver | hwilde, I have been planning on getting one for a long time, but I have trouble leaving my house as I have been under house arrest for 9 years. | 03:17 |
holyguyver | I ordered this PC of the internet though, do you know a good monitor selling website? | 03:18 |
hwilde | is this what your computer looks like http://images.pcworld.com/reviews/graphics/57665-20561b.jpg | 03:18 |
holyguyver | hwilde, that is what my monitor looks like, but my computer is a brand new hp pavillion | 03:19 |
hwilde | for $448 from www.dell.com/ubuntu you can get a whole tower preinstalled with ubuntu and it comes with a 19" widescreen flat panel | 03:21 |
jjesse | nice | 03:21 |
jjesse | hwilde: i got one of those new dell mini 9's coming :) | 03:21 |
hwilde | nice | 03:21 |
holyguyver | hwilde, I just got a computer, I don't need a computer only a monitor, preferablly a 24 inch & around 100$ | 03:21 |
hwilde | but if you want to stay with the HP theme... www.newegg.com HP L2208W Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD $249.99 | 03:22 |
holyguyver | Thank you | 03:22 |
hwilde | HP L1908w Black 19" 5ms Widescreen $199 | 03:22 |
hwilde | 24" would be awesome tho | 03:23 |
hwilde | don't let go of your dreams | 03:23 |
holyguyver | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176090 if only this was 300$ less. | 03:24 |
hwilde | http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1443&page=3 | 03:25 |
hwilde | Worlds largest LCD Monitor - 40" | 03:25 |
holyguyver | & The pricetag? | 03:26 |
nullack | wgrant : I think youve constructed some good points in your response on bug 269656 | 03:38 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 269656 in firefox-3.0 "AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269656 | 03:38 |
wgrant | nullack: You too. | 03:44 |
wgrant | Damn, I see that I triggered Launchpad's comment-snipping. | 03:45 |
* RAOF wonders idly why 'abrowser' isn't 'iceweasel' | 03:49 | |
wgrant | RAOF: I suspect that "Web Browser" sounds less strange than "Iceweasel" | 03:50 |
RAOF | The same could be said of firefox. | 03:50 |
wgrant | Definitely. | 03:51 |
wgrant | But it is a well-known name. | 03:51 |
hggdh | because it got famous. abrowser could, eventually reach the same level (and, who knows, also get an EULA ;-) | 03:51 |
wgrant | abrowser is actually branded "Web Browser" | 03:53 |
hggdh | s/abrowser/Web Browser/ # correction acked, but the assertion is still true | 03:54 |
hggdh | the fact that we have now both of them already points to non-complete agreement | 03:54 |
wgrant | Firefox, Iceweasel, Burning Dog, Web Browser | 03:56 |
hggdh | meanwhile I think I made launchpad barf on an apport-generated report for virtualbox... | 03:57 |
hggdh | wgrant, the pity of this is it ends up being Mozilla's loss: only FFox is known, none of the others | 03:57 |
wgrant | How is that Mozilla's loss? | 03:58 |
hggdh | the brand is diluted by the name forks | 03:59 |
wgrant | Right. | 03:59 |
hggdh | *we* know it, but we-the-people will not | 03:59 |
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qense | Aargh! My hart stopped beating for a few seconds. :P Someone with the name 'Kassa!' replied to a bug. 'Kassa!' is a TV program where consumers can complain about companies and products. They've burned the iPhone and Windows Vista completely down. | 13:12 |
techno_freak | ahh | 13:19 |
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nullack | Folks, bug Bug 269656 is a political hot potatoa | 16:40 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 269656 in firefox-3.0 "AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269656 | 16:40 |
nullack | Were going to end up with 10 000+ comments | 16:41 |
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nullack | Shouldnt it be closed from comments? | 16:41 |
asomething | can comments be closed? don't think I've seen that before.... | 16:41 |
nullack | Or how about converting it into a question | 16:42 |
asomething | hmm... while I don't feel strongly on the issue, I think that might make some people mad... | 16:43 |
nullack | I've shared my view, I understand yours :) | 16:44 |
nullack | Ill leave it alone | 16:45 |
EagleSn | when i press a multimedia key in Kubuntu 8.04.1, kded crash, and kmilo stop running | 18:48 |
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mrooney | is there a tag to apply to bugs which could potentially reduce the ISO size? | 20:42 |
mrooney | that is always a useful thing, right | 20:42 |
james_w | mrooney: I don't know of one, but it is certainly useful | 20:49 |
james_w | mrooney: what's the number? | 20:49 |
james_w | mrooney: saying that on #ubuntu-devel may well get the right people interested | 20:49 |
mrooney | james_w: actually related to our earlier conversation, bug 231130 | 20:51 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 231130 in ubuntu-wallpapers "simple-ubuntu.png is really elephant-skin.jpg and is toooo big (was converted from jpg to png)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/231130 | 20:51 |
mrooney | james_w: it seems possible that could save ~2MB, unless it is compressed somehow and I am missing that | 20:55 |
james_w | I think you are right | 20:55 |
mrooney | I will pop over to #ubuntu-devel | 20:56 |
james_w | kwii and slangasek are the people that I would point this out to | 20:56 |
james_w | kwii is the art dude, and slangasek is the one that has to fight the CD size | 20:56 |
chrisccoulson | anyone here familiar with HAL? | 21:15 |
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