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hwildewhat is the ultimate fix for resolution before submitting bug reports02:02
hwildereinstall all of x ?02:06
RAOFThe fix depends on the problem, generally.02:06
hwildeborked resolution02:08
hwildeshort of clean reinstall, any way to fix it?02:09
RAOFAgain, depends on the cause of the problem.  Generally speaking, access to your Xorg.0.log is required for any debugging.02:09
hwildeyeah thats what I told this guy02:11
hwildehttp://pastebin.com/f1ff38ad502:11
hwilde1761: (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (width too large for virtual size)02:11
RAOFAh, that old chesnut.02:11
hwildelol02:12
hwilde1766:  (--) VESA(0): Virtual size is 800x600 (pitch 800)02:12
hwildeholyguyver_, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf again plz02:12
holyguyver_hw what is the pastebinit cammand to do that again?02:13
holyguyver_hwilde,02:13
hwildepastebinit -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:13
holyguyver_http://pastebin.com/f4e02078a02:14
hwildethere's nothing in it now?02:15
holyguyver_I guess not02:15
holyguyver_hwilde, now look at what you did :p02:16
hwildeget up to the latest version 2.6.24-16-generic is from like... April02:17
holyguyver_hwilde, as I said I have that, I just simply need to re-log into that.02:17
hwildedo it02:17
hwildeRAOF, sry this guy has been complaining in #ubuntu all day02:19
hwildelike he was there when I woke up this morning02:19
holyguyverhwilde, I am back02:21
hwildeyeah I see you02:22
hwildewhat kernel02:22
holyguyveralright, so tell me to pastebinit again02:22
holyguyver2.6.1902:22
holyguyverhw?02:24
holyguyverhwilde,02:24
hwildeare you gonna pastebinit or what02:25
hwildexorg.conf and Xorg.0.log02:25
holyguyverhwilde, Yes whenever you tell me the cammand02:25
hwildepastebinit -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:25
hwildepastebinit -i /var/logl/Xorg.0.log02:26
holyguyverhttp://pastebin.com/f2c8c345302:26
holyguyverhwilde, there02:26
holyguyverUnable to read from: /var/logl/Xorg.0.log02:26
hwildeits just /var/ log02:26
hwildetypo02:27
holyguyverWell you typed /var/logl02:27
hwildeyou've been doing this all day get with the program02:27
hwildedon't you know about the tab key you dont have to type everything02:27
holyguyverhttp://pastebin.com/f370cd25002:28
hwildeok so you're using nv driver now02:28
hwildethat is a step in the right direction02:28
hwilde!nvidia | holyguyver02:29
ubottuholyguyver: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:29
holyguyverhwilde, wel already went through all of this02:29
holyguyverI use EnvyNG02:29
hwildeok so configure your monitor02:29
hwildedid you read the log02:29
hwilde491 (II) NV(0): Configured Monitor: Using default hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz02:29
holyguyverhwilde, it will not allow me to configure it remember.02:30
hwilde492 (II) NV(0): Configured Monitor: Using default vrefresh range of 50.02:30
hwilde513 (II) NV(0): Configured Monitor: Using default vrefresh range of 50.02:30
hwilde(II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range)02:30
hwildeit's not using the resolution you want because of the default hsync and vrefresh02:30
holyguyverhwilde, it will not allow me to configure it remember. it keeps on reverting back.02:30
hwildeRAOF, last chance before reinstalling from scratch?02:31
holyguyverhwilde, we already did the last chance 12 hours ago :'(02:31
hwildesubmit a bug report then02:32
holyguyverhwilde, I don't know how :'(02:32
hwilde!bug | holyguyver02:33
ubottuholyguyver: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots02:33
holyguyverhwilde, So as I said when I do a reinstall I now know to never ever evere ever ever update my kernam & headers again, because it keeps on causing this problem.02:33
hwildethat would be your choice02:34
hwildeI like to get all the updates02:34
hwildelive on the edge02:34
holyguyverhwilde, every time I go to file a bug report it keeps asking me to create an account with launchpad.02:34
hwildeand then02:35
holyguyverI choose not to create an account02:35
* hwilde blank stare02:35
holyguyverSo I am unable to file bug reports.02:36
Hobbseeso...02:38
hwildeso it only takes like 20minutes to reinstall02:39
hwildeassuming fast enough cdrom and harddrive write speed02:39
holyguyverhwilde, Yes but first I have to backup my 10GBs of HOMe & my 100 plus customely added apps.02:40
holyguyverWhich is what I am doing right noe02:41
holyguyvernow02:41
hwildehow much free space do you have02:41
hwildejust make a new partition in the free space and install there02:41
holyguyverI am not sure, that is hard to find out in Natue***02:41
holyguyverThe file manager :p02:41
hwildetype in "df -ha"02:42
holyguyverhwilde, I have 4 partisions as I already told you but I have trouble figuring out how to install my home partision on another partision02:42
hwildeholyguyver, specify your vrefresh and hsync in the xorg.conf to get rid of the errors02:46
hwilde513:   (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range)02:46
hwilde517: (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range)02:47
hwildeand specify the default mode 1024x76802:48
holyguyverhwilde, how do I specify that, if I pastbin my xorg can you specify that for me?02:49
hwildewhat kinda monitor02:50
hwildewant to see mine?02:50
holyguyverhwilde,  Gateway EV70002:50
hwildedont be jealous now   http://pastebin.com/f154ed97a02:50
hwildeHorizSync    30.0 - 70.002:52
hwildeVertRefresh  50.0 - 120.002:52
hwildeOption    "dpms"02:52
hwildeput that in Section "Monitor"02:52
holyguyverYeah can you just pastbin what I need then I can delete my xorg.conf & fill it with yours02:52
holyguyveryours for me02:52
hwildedon't be lazy just add those three lines where I told you02:53
holyguyverhwilde, I don't know where to add them02:53
nullackWhy specify hard coded display values in xorg??02:53
nullackIt leads to trouble02:53
holyguyverhwilde, I am not being lazy, I do not understand what you are directing me to do02:53
hwildehe has errors in his Xorg.0.log02:54
hwilde513:   (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range)02:54
hwilde517: (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range)02:54
hwildei think specifying them would get rid of those errors02:55
nullackUpgrade to Intrepid and go minimal xorg :) IMHO02:55
nullackProvided its not a production machine and hes willing to test :)02:55
hwildeyes thank you02:55
hwildelive on the edge!!02:55
nullackI do :)02:55
hwildeit's already broken02:55
hwildewhat's the worst that could happen02:55
holyguyvernullack, it is a production machine02:56
RAOFnullack: I'm not sure that would work.  I'd _guess_ that the underlying problem here is a problem with the monitor's DDC/EDID reporting.02:56
hwildeyeah02:56
hwildethanks Gateway02:56
holyguyverhwilde, you have to realize this is one of those old two foot thick monitors.02:56
* hwilde knows02:56
hwildewhat a gateway ev700 is02:56
hwildety02:56
holyguyverYes02:56
nullackROAF He can pull EDID02:56
hwildenow are you going to specify them or what02:57
nullackMorning Chris, BTW :)02:57
holyguyverhwilde, Specify what?02:57
hwildehttp://pastebin.com/m6dfb42dc02:59
holyguyverhwilde, so I replace my xorgconf with that?03:01
hwildeno you just keep your current broken config03:01
holyguyverI do? :'(03:01
hwildeno I was being sarcastic.  what you said is what you should do03:03
hwildewhat are you afraid of breaking it03:03
hwildeit's already broken03:03
holyguyverhwilde, Alright, so how do I open xorg again?03:03
holyguyvergksu gedit /src/x11/xorg.conf03:04
holyguyver?03:04
hwildeclose03:04
holyguyverhwilde, then what is it?03:04
hwildelocate xorg.conf03:04
holyguyvergksu gedit /src/x11/locate/xorg.conf ?03:05
hwildeno just type in03:05
hwildelocate xorg.conf03:05
holyguyver/etc/X11/xorg.conf03:06
holyguyverAlright I am now going to restart x & I will be back in a few minutes to tell you how it reverted back :p03:08
holyguyverhwilde,03:08
hwildeminutes?03:08
hwildectrl+alt+backspace03:08
holyguyverhwilde, You are my new God, it worked.03:10
hwildehttp://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12536803:12
hwildeReload this Page  Gateway EV700 CRT Monitor Refresh Rates03:12
hwildecopied the monitor section right outta the page03:12
hwildegoogle ftw03:12
hwildeholyguyver, you should probably make a backup of that file now.03:12
holyguyverHow do I back it up?03:13
hwildesudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.before-i-messed-it-up03:13
holyguyverAlright, thank you.03:14
holyguyverBows down & worships hwilde03:15
hwildenow go buy a better monitor03:16
hwildeyou know they have autodetect now03:16
hwildesince like the 90s03:16
hwildeyou can get like 22" widescreen lcd for $20003:17
holyguyverhwilde, I have been planning on getting one for a long time, but I have trouble leaving my house as I have been under house arrest for 9 years.03:17
holyguyverI ordered this PC of the internet though, do you know a good monitor selling website?03:18
hwildeis this what your computer looks like http://images.pcworld.com/reviews/graphics/57665-20561b.jpg03:18
holyguyverhwilde, that is what my monitor looks like, but my computer is a brand new hp pavillion03:19
hwildefor $448 from www.dell.com/ubuntu you can get a whole tower preinstalled with ubuntu and it comes with a 19" widescreen flat panel03:21
jjessenice03:21
jjessehwilde: i got one of those new dell mini 9's coming :)03:21
hwildenice03:21
holyguyverhwilde, I just got a computer, I don't need a computer only a monitor, preferablly a 24 inch & around 100$03:21
hwildebut if you want to stay with the HP theme... www.newegg.com   HP L2208W Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD   $249.9903:22
holyguyverThank you03:22
hwildeHP L1908w Black 19" 5ms Widescreen  $19903:22
hwilde24" would be awesome tho03:23
hwildedon't let go of your dreams03:23
holyguyverhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176090 if only this was 300$ less.03:24
hwildehttp://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1443&page=303:25
hwildeWorlds largest LCD Monitor - 40"03:25
holyguyver& The pricetag?03:26
nullackwgrant : I think youve constructed some good points in your response on bug 26965603:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 269656 in firefox-3.0 "AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26965603:38
wgrantnullack: You too.03:44
wgrantDamn, I see that I triggered Launchpad's comment-snipping.03:45
* RAOF wonders idly why 'abrowser' isn't 'iceweasel'03:49
wgrantRAOF: I suspect that "Web Browser" sounds less strange than "Iceweasel"03:50
RAOFThe same could be said of firefox.03:50
wgrantDefinitely.03:51
wgrantBut it is a well-known name.03:51
hggdhbecause it got famous. abrowser could, eventually reach the same level (and, who knows, also get an EULA ;-)03:51
wgrantabrowser is actually branded "Web Browser"03:53
hggdhs/abrowser/Web Browser/  # correction acked, but the assertion is still true03:54
hggdhthe fact that we have now both of them already points to non-complete agreement03:54
wgrantFirefox, Iceweasel, Burning Dog, Web Browser03:56
hggdhmeanwhile I think I made launchpad barf on an apport-generated report for virtualbox...03:57
hggdhwgrant, the pity of this is it ends up being Mozilla's loss: only FFox is known, none of the others03:57
wgrantHow is that Mozilla's loss?03:58
hggdhthe brand is diluted by the name forks03:59
wgrantRight.03:59
hggdh*we* know it, but we-the-people will not03:59
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qenseAargh! My hart stopped beating for a few seconds. :P Someone with the name 'Kassa!' replied to a bug. 'Kassa!' is a TV program where consumers can complain about companies and products. They've burned the iPhone and Windows Vista completely down.13:12
techno_freakahh13:19
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nullackFolks, bug Bug 269656 is a political hot potatoa16:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 269656 in firefox-3.0 "AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26965616:40
nullackWere going to end up with 10 000+ comments16:41
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nullackShouldnt it be closed from comments?16:41
asomethingcan comments be closed? don't think I've seen that before....16:41
nullackOr how about converting it into a question16:42
asomethinghmm... while I don't feel strongly on the issue, I think that might make some people mad...16:43
nullackI've shared my view, I understand yours :)16:44
nullackIll leave it alone16:45
EagleSnwhen i press a multimedia key in Kubuntu 8.04.1, kded crash, and kmilo stop running18:48
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mrooneyis there a tag to apply to bugs which could potentially reduce the ISO size?20:42
mrooneythat is always a useful thing, right20:42
james_wmrooney: I don't know of one, but it is certainly useful20:49
james_wmrooney: what's the number?20:49
james_wmrooney: saying that on #ubuntu-devel may well get the right people interested20:49
mrooneyjames_w: actually related to our earlier conversation, bug 23113020:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 231130 in ubuntu-wallpapers "simple-ubuntu.png is really elephant-skin.jpg and is toooo big (was converted from jpg to png)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23113020:51
mrooneyjames_w: it seems possible that could save ~2MB, unless it is compressed somehow and I am missing that20:55
james_wI think you are right20:55
mrooneyI will pop over to #ubuntu-devel20:56
james_wkwii and slangasek are the people that I would point this out to20:56
james_wkwii is the art dude, and slangasek is the one that has to fight the CD size20:56
chrisccoulsonanyone here familiar with HAL?21:15
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