| Kamping_Kaiser | hi mozilla team :) | 00:28 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | would i be correct in assuming that (almost) all firefox-* files are replaced with DEBIANNAME? | 00:33 |
| * Kamping_Kaiser attempts to do another build | 00:44 | |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'm there, but i'm not :) *suspects hes doing it all wrong* | 00:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | having looked i'm none the wiser, so my question is: i'm trying to build a modified (branding wise) FF3 package, and the tarball getting used isfirefox-3.0_3.0.1+build1+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz downloaded from a mirrror, not one of my locally generated ones. where can i look to try and debug this? | 00:57 |
| wgrant | Kamping_Kaiser: Do you know of the existence of abrowser? It's an alternative set of branding for Firefox that was upload to Intrepid a couple of days ago. | 01:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | wgrant, yes, i've been watching the discussion. and assuming it builds on hardy it may be worth me looking at. | 01:09 |
| gnomefreak | bug 201655 | 09:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 201655 in mozilla-thunderbird "send email with attachement from openoffice through thunderbird fails: "unable to open the temporary file"" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201655 | 09:51 |
| gnomefreak | what is firefox-3.0-branding? | 10:00 |
| gnomefreak | the description needs work for -branding | 10:03 |
| * gnomefreak is learning there are alot of people doing very stupid things :( | 10:13 | |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :/ | 10:14 |
| gnomefreak | asac: this is bad | 10:15 |
| gnomefreak | asac: why does abrowser conflict with firefox? you should beable to have both | 10:15 |
| gnomefreak | Depends: firefox-3.0, abrowser-3.0-branding | 10:16 |
| gnomefreak | The following packages will be REMOVED: firefox firefox-3.0-branding firefox-launchpad-plugin | 10:16 |
| gnomefreak | hmmmmm why do we have both firefox and firefox-3.0 | 10:17 |
| gnomefreak | but either way it shouldnt conflict | 10:17 |
| * gnomefreak is gonna regret trying to install 3D drivers | 10:18 | |
| gnomefreak | there bug is filed | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | ^^ for X | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | can i still run firefox? | 11:07 |
| gnomefreak | i guess not | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | ok so firefox-3.0 is needed for abrowser but firefox is removed. i cant run firefox-3.0 from terminal since there is no icon for it. firefox-3.0 loads abrowser. shouldnt we make it so we can remove firefox-3.0 if installing abrowser | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | or atleast run both. | 11:14 |
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| asac_11 | hi | 17:29 |
| asac_11 | +1:30h mozillateam meeting ;) | 17:29 |
| mdke | asac: still around? | 18:39 |
| asac | yes | 18:52 |
| asac | meeting in a few minutes ;) | 18:52 |
| Jazzva | asac, I didn't put it on the agenda, but I would like to see what we're gonna do about automatic update process for extensions... | 18:53 |
| mdke | asac: hi. I've been looking at trying to remove the startpage localisation script stuff from *ubuntu-docs and mozilla-firefox-locale-all. You may remember we discussed doing it last cycle on the basis that it's not used now because ubufox handles the startpage | 18:53 |
| asac | Jazzva: yeah. add it ;) | 18:53 |
| asac | mdke: what info do you need? | 18:53 |
| mdke | asac: if you are happy for that stuff to be removed, I'll remove it from the -docs packages, but it should also be removed from mozilla-firefox-locale-all too (I think that has to be done first) | 18:54 |
| asac | mdke: hmm | 18:54 |
| asac | mdke: thats firefox-2 right? | 18:54 |
| mdke | asac: I don't know, I have to confess I don't know anything about firefox | 18:54 |
| asac | yeah right | 18:54 |
| mdke | ok so that package isn't even used by firefox 3? | 18:55 |
| asac | mdke: i'll add an agenda item for "remove firefox 2" for the meeting | 18:55 |
| asac | if we remove it, the langpacks can go too | 18:55 |
| asac | mdke: no its not used by firefox | 18:55 |
| mdke | asac: fine. Can you let me know how it goes? :) | 18:55 |
| asac | 3 | 18:55 |
| mdke | asac: I won't do anything with ubuntu-docs until that's sorted, because mozilla-firefox-locale-all depends on ubuntu-docs | 18:55 |
| asac | mdke: meeting starts in 5 minutes in -meeting | 18:55 |
| asac | mdke: we can put that agenda point on top if you have to go ;) | 18:56 |
| mdke | asac: ok, I'll try and follow | 18:56 |
| mdke | yes, if you could do it first, that would be great, I have to disappear shortly | 18:56 |
| asac | mdke: sure | 18:57 |
| mdke | thanks | 18:57 |
| fta2 | hi | 19:08 |
| Volans | fta2: in #ubuntu-meeting ;) | 19:08 |
| fta2 | sorry, i'm late for the meeting (traffic jam, 2h stuck) | 19:08 |
| Volans | only 8 minutes, if you want I can pastebin the log | 19:08 |
| mdke | asac: as a matter of interest, is something special required to remove the alternatives, like in the postinst, or can I just remove the script that provides them? | 19:17 |
| mdke | (no need to reply now if you're busy with the meeting) | 19:17 |
| asac | mdke: the removal code should be in the current ubunt-docs package that gets replaced | 19:28 |
| asac | we should ensure that that works properly for all cases | 19:28 |
| asac | but lets talk later about that | 19:28 |
| mdke | asac: ah, damn - I thought it would be simpler! | 20:30 |
| asac | mdke: so it doesnt work= | 20:31 |
| asac | ? | 20:31 |
| asac | mdke: at best let me check the scripts tomorrow. is that a bzr branch? | 20:31 |
| mdke | asac: no, I mean - I thought that it would be enough to remove the existing scripts; I now understand from your message above that we need to add some new scripts to remove the alternatives? | 20:32 |
| asac | mdke: that depends on whether the previous scripts were correct | 20:32 |
| asac | if they were they should remove the alternatives | 20:32 |
| asac | if not we need to hack/fix it in the new scripts | 20:32 |
| asac | so ... what we need to do is to try ... and see if any clutter is left over | 20:33 |
| fta | what the hell id https://edge.launchpad.net/~deadubuntuteam ? | 20:33 |
| fta | is | 20:33 |
| asac | if yes -> look into it ... otherwise all fine | 20:33 |
| mdke | asac: ah... well they were done by Ian Jackson, so I hope they'd be correct :) you can see them in the ubuntu-docs source | 20:34 |
| asac | mdke: ok. i'd say: just remove them from current scripts. then upload to PPA and lets test | 20:34 |
| asac | is that ok? | 20:34 |
| mdke | asac: sure. What I intend to do is this - http://doc.ubuntu.com/~mdke/ubuntu-docs.remove_startpage_translations_script.diff | 20:35 |
| mdke | asac: unless you can see anything already wrong from that patch :) | 20:35 |
| asac | urgh. thats bloody perl ;) | 20:38 |
| asac | fta: ^^ | 20:38 |
| mdke | yes, it is | 20:39 |
| asac | mdke: looks good from what i can tell without looking at the complete sources | 20:39 |
| mdke | asac: okey. This will be my first use of PPA so lemme check how it works | 20:41 |
| fta | i can easily understand it but it looks more cryptic than mine ;) | 20:41 |
| asac | fta: q | 20:42 |
| asac | yeah. .. thats the code from ian jackson | 20:42 |
| asac | the author of dpkg and all the tools | 20:42 |
| fta | i already patched some of his scripts, i find his perl old stylish | 20:44 |
| asac | fta: really? | 20:44 |
| asac | what is "old style" perl? | 20:45 |
| fta | like perl4 | 20:45 |
| mdke | that particular one is two years old, fwiw | 20:45 |
| fta | the code above is definitely perl 5 but with some old perl 4.0.36 style in it ;) | 20:46 |
| fta | perl 5 is ~15y old | 20:46 |
| mdke | ah | 20:47 |
| asac | fta: interesting | 20:47 |
| fta | some of my (old) code is public: http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-authors/id/FTASSIN/ | 20:50 |
| * Volans back, finished now to read the log | 20:51 | |
| fta | gasp, seems i haven't pushed anything to CPAN since 1999 | 20:53 |
| asac | fta: did your patches to iwj's scripts get merged into the official branches= | 20:54 |
| fta | iwj ? | 20:54 |
| asac | fta: or is there something we should merge? | 20:54 |
| asac | ian jackson | 20:54 |
| asac | sorry | 20:54 |
| Volans | asac: I have just read the last part of the meeting and I'll be happy to help in some way for the automatization of the extentions | 20:55 |
| Volans | so feel free to ask | 20:55 |
| asac | Volans: cool | 20:56 |
| asac | Volans: feel free to work on whatever you want. we tried to split this up in multiple scripts | 20:57 |
| fta | i'm concerned by my last cairo update.. i introduced a regression with that lcdfilter stuff but i can't clearly identify what's wrong :( | 20:57 |
| asac | needed is download-amd-xpi <extensionname> <version> | 20:57 |
| fta | people are complaining | 20:57 |
| asac | fta: have you asked keybuk? | 20:57 |
| fta | asac, he said he'll have a lot, no answer since | 20:59 |
| fta | -lot+look, wtf, i can't type today | 21:01 |
| Volans | asac: what do you mean exactly with download-amd-xpi? | 21:02 |
| Volans | in particular "amd" | 21:02 |
| asac | Volans: sorry: amo | 21:07 |
| Volans | ah ok :) | 21:07 |
| asac | the script should download a particular version of an xpi from amo | 21:07 |
| Volans | the last one is not the right one always? | 21:08 |
| Volans | public, obviously | 21:08 |
| asac | Volans: no. we need a particular version i think | 21:08 |
| asac | Volans: we want to connect that on a higher level with fta's check extension script | 21:08 |
| asac | which basically gives you the latest version | 21:08 |
| asac | Volans: i think <extensionname> probably should be <amoid> | 21:09 |
| Volans | because if you remember some times ago I have found 2 different manners to automatically download file from AMO | 21:09 |
| Volans | one that after 3 automatic redirects take the last public versione of an extension | 21:09 |
| Volans | the second is to watch a watchable url that have all the public versions of an extension | 21:10 |
| asac | Volans: right. you think any of those approaches would allow us to download specific versions? | 21:11 |
| Volans | the first one no, it download always the latest public version in AMO | 21:11 |
| Volans | the second sure, is a public folder | 21:12 |
| Volans | we can download the version we want | 21:12 |
| Volans | fta: how do you find/choose the extension's version with your script? | 21:12 |
| fta | I parse the page as my goal is to find the last one | 21:13 |
| asac | another nice to have would be to commit all intermediate releases to bzr too | 21:13 |
| asac | but thats not important to start with | 21:13 |
| asac | and only gives a bit finer granularity - e.g. to track down regressions | 21:14 |
| Volans | sincerly I think is not necessary fta | 21:14 |
| asac | Volans: well. in that way we probably get the latest officially released version, dont we? | 21:14 |
| Volans | when I say public I was meaning "officially", those that have been public in AMO, not in sandbox | 21:15 |
| fta | my script was a quick hack i wrote when we first discussed about that topic here, i plan to rewrite it when i have time to add hooks to trigger actions | 21:15 |
| asac | fta: trigger actions? | 21:16 |
| fta | such as: if amo vers != ubuntu vers => start dl_from_amo_and_commit_in_upstream_branch | 21:17 |
| asac | hmm | 21:17 |
| asac | ok | 21:17 |
| fta | actions like that being external scripts with a stable api (list of arguments) | 21:18 |
| asac | ok. but thats probably far away right? | 21:18 |
| asac | so we can ignore that approach for what we are doing now? | 21:18 |
| fta | no, not really, it's a progressive approach | 21:19 |
| asac | or wouldnt that kind of trigger logic be implemented on a higher level? | 21:19 |
| asac | e.g on top of check-extensions | 21:19 |
| Volans | fta: why not to watch a simple folder instead of parsing the web page? | 21:19 |
| Volans | asac: probably after the download of the xpi you want some "report" from the script before continue with branches | 21:20 |
| fta | Volans, this is a detail in the implementation so it's isolated and could be changed easily.. sure not in the current shell script, but the idea is there | 21:20 |
| asac | Volans: yes. the script probably should echo the downloaded file and the version | 21:21 |
| sebner | asac: Alexander, why abrowser? O_o | 21:29 |
| asac | sebner: webbrowser didnt make it through the archive admins | 21:30 |
| sebner | asac: wouldn't it be easier to sync iceweasel or do we have technical problems then? | 21:31 |
| asac | no ... we maintain things anyway. so it doesnt add much extra work | 21:31 |
| asac | and iceweasel is a political problem | 21:31 |
| asac | also we dont have all patches against xulrunner that debian has | 21:31 |
| asac | so it would become difficult mostl ikely | 21:32 |
| fta | asac, ff3.1 a2 as it was or as my b1pre is today ? | 21:32 |
| sebner | asac: I see but in generel what is the difference between abrowser and iceweasel? | 21:32 |
| asac | fta: please the official tag | 21:32 |
| asac | at least thats QAed by upstream somehow | 21:33 |
| fta | asac, for the src sure but the packaging ? my b1pre has abrowser-3.1, not the a2 i had a few weeks ago | 21:33 |
| asac | fta: ah. the latest packaging :) | 21:33 |
| fta | ok | 21:34 |
| asac | not sure how to best to id | 21:34 |
| asac | it | 21:34 |
| asac | but most likely we need to create a .dev branch as the intrepid release branch | 21:34 |
| asac | and that version lowering could be done there= | 21:34 |
| asac | ? | 21:34 |
| asac | i guess you will find a way ;) | 21:34 |
| fta | sure | 21:35 |
| fta | does it matter if the 1.9.1 changelog contains the most recent UNRELEASED 1.9 entry ? | 21:37 |
| asac | hmm ... cant that be converted to intrepid? | 21:41 |
| asac | e.g. bump down -> push to release branch -> merge up -> bump version to 3.0.2bpre? | 21:41 |
| fta | what i mean it i currently have 2 "UNRELEASED": http://paste.ubuntu.com/46980/ | 21:43 |
| fta | -it+is | 21:44 |
| IntuitiveNipple | RFC: Any ideas why xulrunner-1.9 c(onfigured with --enable-debug) would get a SIGILL (Illegal Instruction) when firefox is started from a terminal, but not when started via a Gnome launcher icon? | 21:47 |
| asac | IntuitiveNipple: you sure both use that build? | 21:48 |
| asac | how do you use it? | 21:48 |
| IntuitiveNipple | asac: what do you mean by 'both' ? Firefox and xulrunner? | 21:49 |
| asac | IntuitiveNipple: a) firefox started from launcher b) terminal | 21:50 |
| IntuitiveNipple | asac: I'm working on that issue we talked of last week, and for some reason something in my xulrunner-1.9 build/install configuration seems to have changed because recent builds of xulrunner-1.9 cause this... if I drop the "--enable-debug" from configure, it doesn't SIGILL. | 21:51 |
| IntuitiveNipple | asac: Oh... I see what you mean... let me work it out :) | 21:51 |
| Jazzva | fta, afaik that is not a problem. But the release entry should have a proper release name. | 21:52 |
| IntuitiveNipple | well, the launcher is "firefox %U" and I've tried both "firefox" and "export NSPR_LOG_MODULES=HelperAppService:5; export NSPR_LOG_FILE=/home/tj/Desktop/xulrunner-1.9.log; /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.1/firefox" and get the same thing. Let me recheck this, maybe I've got myself mixed up :) | 21:52 |
| fta | Jazzva, i know it's not a technical problem, just best practice. here, i try to keep the branches as close as possible so this is a side effect | 21:54 |
| Jazzva | fta, I think I've seen that somewhere before... so, I suppose it should be ok. but not 100% sure :) | 21:54 |
| Jazzva | fta, check in #ubuntu-motu | 21:55 |
| fta | either i pretend the last 1.9 is released, or it's a lot of work to rebase everything on the last 1.9 really released | 21:56 |
| fta | or we close and push that 1.9 now ;) even better | 21:57 |
| IntuitiveNipple | asac: According to strace both end up doing execve("/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.1/firefox", ... | 22:01 |
| fta | does it SIGILL inside a debug code ? | 22:02 |
| IntuitiveNipple | asac: Also, both using "/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.1" | 22:03 |
| fta | can you get a trace ? | 22:03 |
| IntuitiveNipple | fta: I haven't looked too hard as yet, but it looks like XPCOM / javascript ... let me pastebin the stacktrace | 22:04 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Here we go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/46989/ | 22:06 |
| IntuitiveNipple | It must be caused by something I've done doing this debugging, but I can't figure out what! | 22:07 |
| IntuitiveNipple | The only changes to the configure options I've got are "--disable-optimize \--enable-debug \" | 22:07 |
| fta | can you run it inside gdb and show us 'bt' after the crash ? | 22:19 |
| fta | Could not write out perisistant registry! | 22:20 |
| fta | ###!!! ASSERTION: Default pref file not parsed successfully.: 'Error', file nsPrefService.cpp, line 723 | 22:20 |
| fta | WARNING: Error parsing GRE default preferences. Is this an old-style embedding app?: file nsPrefService.cpp, line 791 | 22:20 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Yes, I'm rebuilding it atm just-in-case it's some weird transient. I don't get why it starts fine if not from the xterminal | 22:26 |
| fta | asac, i branched 1.9.1.head at my a2 commit and cherry picked the improvements on top, leaving all the b1pre out | 22:30 |
| IntuitiveNipple | fta: There a lot of ASSERTION failures so is that one significant? I don't see anything obvious in the profile's prefs.js | 22:32 |
| fta | difficult to say from here without a proper backtrace of the crash | 22:33 |
| IntuitiveNipple | yeah... if it still happens after this build (with dbgsyms) it might be easier to work out | 22:33 |
| fta | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/46997/ | 22:34 |
| Volans | fta: I have a proposal: add the AMO watchable dir in the debian/watch file on the *.ubuntu-dev branches and the use the standard packaging tool uscan and uupdate (just rename the downloaded .xpi file to .zip before running uupdate) | 22:36 |
| Volans | s/and the/and then/ | 22:37 |
| IntuitiveNipple | fta asac: OK, figured it out. One of my lines of code was using PromiseFlatCString() without calling the .get() method in a LOG() statement :p | 22:57 |
| IntuitiveNipple | I guess if the console is detached it doesn't evaluate some part of that - can't think of any other rational explanation anyhow :) | 22:59 |
| pwnguin | i wish people wouldn't post unrelated crap to a bug just because it's being looked at by people or sabdfl | 23:05 |
| asac | IntuitiveNipple: haha | 23:25 |
| asac | ok | 23:25 |
| asac | pwnguin: which bug? | 23:25 |
| pwnguin | asac: the EULA bug hit slashdot | 23:34 |
| fta | bug 269656 | 23:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269656 in firefox-3.0 "AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269656 | 23:49 |
| fta | asac, i thought i blocked that a long time ago | 23:49 |
| fta | did you revert it ? | 23:49 |
| Jazzva | hmm... what's in the eula? and why do we need it now? | 23:50 |
| fta | strange, i blocked it in commit #262 | 23:52 |
| fta | timestamp: Sat 2008-05-10 23:21:49 +0200 | 23:53 |
| asac | pwnguin: EULA bug? | 23:53 |
| Jazzva | asac, look at bug 269656 | 23:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269656 in firefox-3.0 "AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269656 | 23:53 |
| Volans | also slashdot mention it ;) | 23:54 |
| Volans | fta: what do you think about my previous proposal? | 23:54 |
| pwnguin | asac: everyone else knows which bug I meant ;) | 23:56 |
| fta | Volans, i need to think about it, my brain is not working correctly today. at 1st glance, it could be ok but then the script can't dl without beeing in a branch and at the proper location | 23:56 |
| fta | pwnguin, i just happened to read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=919444 in my rss feeds | 23:57 |
| Volans | fta: yes, this is a limitation, but if you plan to have a long-time maintenance of extensions probably you will have a place whith all the *.ubuntu-dev branches and a master script can cycle through every branch, searching for a new upstream version and made all the stuff explained in the LargeScaleMaintenance | 23:59 |
| Volans | another way is to make a script that only check the latest version in the watchable dir and download only the extensions that have a new version | 23:59 |
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