[00:56] <hanfm1> can someone tell me if i need to install a mailserver on mythbuntu
[00:56] <hanfm1> because theres an option in the taskselinstallation
[01:10] <Qster> if you wanted to host your own mailserver i guess
[01:11] <hanfm1> no i only want to set a single mythtv
[01:12] <Mersault> Good evening, I
[01:13] <Mersault> I have been setting up a new mythfrontend this evening from the new alpha release. It's going well, except I can't get mythfrontend to launch at start. I have a user set to auto-login, but there's a password prompt due to mythbuntu-startup that needs to disappear, and even after that I still don't get mythfrontend started automatically.
[01:32] <hanfm1> do i need the lamp-server on mythbuntu? is it for a webinterface?
[02:02] <Qster> lamp-server is a web server
[03:45] <lmilano> Hi
[03:46] <lmilano> anyone home?
[06:52] <bronson> #v4l
[06:53] <bronson> er, join even.
[07:28] <Steven_M> raising and lowering the volume with my remote has no effect, any idea why?
[07:36] <MythbuntuGuest61> I've added the feed for photoshop user tv podcast to mythstream but when it goes to harvest it says download failed
[07:36] <MythbuntuGuest61> is there a way to stream it or does it have to try and download?
[07:37] <Steven_M> raising and lowering the volume with my remote has no effect, any idea why?
[08:04] <jeeves__> can anyone here help me figure out whats going on with my Mythbuntu install, and why I can't connect my new front end to the backend server
[09:02] <Ziroday> Hi, whenever I try to run mythfrontend I get this error http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m79cb2a3e
[09:03] <Ziroday> and when I run mythbackend I get this error http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m46de2e0e
[09:03] <Ziroday> what should I do?
[09:19] <bartmon> hello! is there a way for svideo output during installation?
[09:19] <bartmon> on an nvidia gpu?
[09:28] <laga_> bartmon: it might work with the fail safe mode
[09:28] <laga_> probably only if the TV is plugged in and turned on during bootup
[09:34] <bartmon> but i can't enter failsafe mode if i can't see the menu :/
[09:41] <laga_> hum. well, usually you can see the BIOS etc on the tv
[09:43] <bartmon> nope, that doesn't work via Svideo. I had a Windows install that only started showing picture when the Windows logo appeared during boot.
[09:44] <bartmon> Well, i'm testing on an LCD with multiple inputs. i'll just connect the d-sub and see if i can enable tvout
[09:44] <bartmon> wish me luck or sth :)
[10:36] <Ziroday> !help
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[12:39] <shirka> i am having problems installing mythtv ..
[12:42] <shirka> anyone hear me ?
[12:44] <bartmon> tell us
[12:46] <shirka> ok, using ubuntu 8.04 and when i try to install through Add/Remove programs it comes back with "This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'mythtv' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[12:46] <shirka> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict."
[12:46] <shirka> then i try sudo apt-get install mythtv-frontend
[12:47] <shirka> and get
[12:47] <shirka> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:47] <shirka>   mythtv-frontend: Depends: libmyth-0.21 (>= 0.21.svn20080706) but it is not going to be installed
[12:47] <shirka> E: Broken packages
[12:47] <shirka> following this down through the depencies finally gives
[12:47] <shirka> libmyth-0.21: Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.16) but 1.0.15-3ubuntu4 is to be installed
[12:48] <shirka> thats as far as my limited linux knowledge takes me, hence i came here
[12:54] <bartmon> that's odd
[12:55] <bartmon> my repositories have libmyth-0.21-0 which requires libasound2 1.0.14
[12:55] <bartmon> have you canged your repositories to any 3rd party oneds?
[12:57] <shirka> not sure, i have followed many an article on gettting to where I am currently, how can i tell ?
[12:57] <Glukobrassizin> i've got mythbuntu 8.04.1 + weekly builds. i'm trying to burn windows and stand alone player compatible dvd form mpeg2 recordings (dvb-c), but the resulting dvds are only compatible to my linux systems
[13:00] <bartmon> shirka: System > Administration >Synaptic, then open Settings > Repositories, tab Third Party Software
[13:03] <shirka> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner, http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main, http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main, http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main, http://www.debian-multimedia.org experimental main, http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/pptpconfig ./
[13:03] <shirka> all ticked
[13:06] <Glukobrassizin> could it be a matter of a wrong file system? windows shows nothing or gives an error message about an windows incompatible format. in linux everything looks just like it should and our stand alone dvd player does nothing...
[13:07] <bartmon> Glukobrassizin: well you can find out which filesystem is burned onto the DVD
[13:08] <Glukobrassizin> it was something with "u", i will check again later...
[13:08] <bartmon> when you have one of those incompatible dvds in your computer drive open up a terminal and tipe "mount"
[13:08] <bartmon> it's probably UDF
[13:08] <Glukobrassizin> bartmon, okay... but it's linux compatible.
[13:08] <Glukobrassizin> bartmon, yeah, that's it i think, thank you
[13:09] <bartmon> as far as  i know UDf should be supported under windows...
[13:09] <bartmon> what kind of player do you use in windows?
[13:10] <Glukobrassizin> i tried windows media player and windvd
[13:10] <bartmon> shirka:  that's a very strange repo list. why do you use multiple debian repos especially since  you're using ubuntu?
[13:11] <Glukobrassizin> however, the most important thing would be stand alone compatibility
[13:12] <Glukobrassizin> could it be a problem with the used dvd-rw disc?
[13:12] <shirka> i really dont know, in installing ubuntu i had problems with video, wireless network, bluetooth mouse and now mythtv, still have other issues with burning CD's (will chase that another time) so i have been through quite a few articles in getting things working (video & wireless network in particular) .. not sure why i have debian in there, must have put it there at some point .. should i untick ?
[13:13] <bartmon> shirka: Yes, i would untich everything that has debian in the URL
[13:13] <bartmon> shirka: Instead of the debian multimedia repositoried use these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[13:15] <bartmon> Glukobrassizin: Stand alones usually really do read -+RWs badly. But computer drives apparently handle defects better so it should play in Windows.
[13:16] <Glukobrassizin> bartmon, i will try a dvd-r disc as soon as i can get one and try again on the windows computers...
[13:20] <shirka> sudo apt-get install mythtv-frontend
[13:21] <shirka> now gives different problem
[13:21] <shirka>  mythtv-frontend: Depends: liblame0 (>= 3.97) but it is not going to be installed
[13:21] <shirka>                    Depends: libmyth-0.21-0 (>= 0.21.0+fixes16838) but it is not going to be installed
[13:31] <bartmon> have you done a refresh of available packages?
[13:34] <shirka> just did a
[13:34] <shirka> sudo apt-get update
[13:34] <shirka> and then retried, but same error
[13:36] <bartmon> Try manually installing these dependencies, you might get a more detailed error: sudo apt-get install liblame0
[13:41] <shirka> ok that seemed to work .. isnt there a package to install all of mythtv rather than doing individual mythtv-frontend, mythtv-backend etc etc ?
[13:56] <bartmon> shirka:
[13:56] <bartmon> shirka: Yes, the package mythbuntu-desktop
[13:57] <bartmon> i think -_-
[13:58] <shirka> looks like it .. 200+mb
[13:59] <bartmon> be warned - it also installs xfce4, a lightweight desktop manager
[14:02] <bartmon> must go - good luck with mythbuntu! ;)
[14:04] <shirka> thanks :)
[14:44] <lofty40> !help
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[15:06] <mdkaneda55> hey, trying to use nuvexport as a userjob in mythtv and it's claiming to successfully complete immediately... in a terminal i can copy and paste the exact command that i specify as the userjob and it runs with no problems (i replace %FILE% with the path to mpg, i even got an encode started only specifying filename, and no path!!)
[15:08] <mdkaneda55> anyone know what could be the issue? also having another possibly related issue... when accessing the frontend from my frontend/backend, my "watch recorded shows" screen only has livetv snippets, none of my actually planned recorded shows.. but from this pc, running mythtv-frontend i can see everything i recorded..
[15:12] <Mersault> I've just installed a frontend only system from the 8.10 Alpha4 disc. My only outstanding issues are 1) The automatic login works, but it just logs me in, it doesn't startup mythfrontend automatically. Also, 2) When it does log me in, it says that the mythbuntu-startup script requires admin privs and prompts me for my password. I need to get these two resolved to get the WAF where it needs to be.
[15:14] <laga_> Mersault: file bugs for these
[15:14] <laga_> also, mentioning "WAF" and "alpha" in one sentence strikes me as odd :
[15:14] <laga_> )
[15:14] <Mersault> this is a good point.
[15:16] <Mersault> Separate bugs for each, or a single bug for login related issues?
[15:18] <lmilano> Hi, I am thinking of buying a gaming console to double as a mytbuntu box ...
[15:18] <lmilano> Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
[15:19] <lmilano> I asked around, apparently the PS3 could be a good choice, what do you all think?
[15:20] <Mersault> laga_: After I file the bug reports, any tips on how to resolve the problem?
[15:20] <laga_> Mersault: yes. debug it and send a patch ;)
[15:20] <laga_> Mersault: find out why mythbuntu-startup invokes sudo/consolekit
[15:20] <laga_> Mersault: maybe it's something in the .desktop file?
[15:21] <laga_> Mersault: is your system completely up to date?
[15:21] <Mersault> yes
[15:21] <Mersault> Installed using the alternate CD of Alpha 4. I did an apt-get update and ugprade as well.
[15:22] <laga_> ah. glad to hear that the alt disk is working ;)
[15:22] <Mersault> heh
[15:23] <Mersault> I ran into some issues using it to install a backend inside a virtual machine in parallels on a mac though.
[15:23] <laga_> always file bug reports ;)
[15:24] <Mersault> that one wasn't consistent, it was failing at different points in the install. I don't like to file bugs that I can't reproduce
[15:40] <Mersault> the file /usr/bin/mythbuntu-startup is supposed to be used with the LiveCD, right? Not once it's installed to HD?
[15:42] <laga_> yeah, i think so
[15:42] <Mersault> in the /usr/share/mythbuntu/session.sh file, there's an if statement I will paste here:
[15:43] <Mersault> #Mythbuntu live configuration
[15:43] <Mersault> if [ -x /usr/bin/mythbuntu-startup ]; then
[15:43] <Mersault>     gksudo -k "mythbuntu-startup --load"
[15:43] <Mersault> #Mythbuntu normal session
[15:43] <Mersault> else
[15:43] <Mersault> That file exists and is executable on my system, so when session.sh is run, it's going to run that script. If the comments are correct, then it's trying to create the livecd environment
[15:46] <laga_> so /usr/bin/mythbuntu-startup shouldn't be there
[15:47] <laga_> i'd poke superm1 about that, but he's gone
[15:47] <laga_> i hope he wasnt affected by ike
[15:48] <lmilano> ok, so no thougths on the console?
[15:48] <lmilano> nevermind, I can try  in the forums, thanks a lot for the great work anyway, it's lovely to have something like Mythbuntu available
[15:48] <lmilano> see y'all!
[16:23] <Lancer_Koala> anyone have any tips on how to track down what is causing my mythbuntu system to take 20 minutes for 'pre-scaling theme images'?
[16:24] <Lancer_Koala> the whole system is running extremely slow, but I tried the usual suspect like stopping hald and lircd
[16:38] <Lancer_Koala> hrm.. just had the bright idea to try an older kernel.. everything works as usual on 2.6.22-15...
[16:40] <Lancer_Koala> but I'll have to see if it lasts.. it seems hit or miss with 2.6.24-19
[16:40] <Lancer_Koala> sometimes all is fine, sometimes I get the feeling my box wants to remind me how much better it is than a 486 by making me remember what it used to be like
[16:41] <laga_> then file a bug report if it's indeed a regression from 2.6.22
[16:41] <laga_> i guess you're using the opengl painter and sometimes your vga drivers fail you
[16:42] <Lancer_Koala> well, that's why I popped in here.. not sure I know enough about the problem to file a bug yet
[16:42] <laga_> just do it ;)
[16:42] <Lancer_Koala> hrmm.. ya, xorg could be a problem
[16:42] <Lancer_Koala> hah
[16:44] <Lancer_Koala> well, let me see if I can run 2.6.22 stably before I assume it's the kernel.. like I said, 2.6.24 is sometimes ok
[16:44] <Lancer_Koala> the worst part is that I can't figure out what is eating resources..
[16:46] <laga_> ask 'top'?
[16:46] <Lancer_Koala> heh, yes.. I have been
[16:47] <Lancer_Koala> what i mean is that no one process is clearly at fault..
[16:47] <Lancer_Koala> everything is using way more cpu time than normal, but all in about the correct ratios
[16:48] <Lancer_Koala> so if I shutdown myth and most other cpu using procs, I run top and top takes something like 10-20% itself.. that's not right
[16:48] <Lancer_Koala> I seriously feel like I'm on a 486
[16:50] <Lancer_Koala> I'm glad you mentioned opengl painter though, I haven't tried stopping X completely
[16:50] <Lancer_Koala> next time it goes crazy, I'll try that
[16:53] <Lancer_Koala> I wish I could even just figure out what to do to reliably trigger the problem.. it would make debugging a lot easier
[17:03] <Lancer_Koala> uh.. one other thing that should be easy.. during yesterday's upgrade (trying to see if that would help), my dvd is now /dev/dvd1 but used to be /dev/dvd
[17:04] <Lancer_Koala> I could link it, but then I have to modify udev so it sticks over reboot
[17:04] <Lancer_Koala> but I don't see where in myth to point to the dvd device
[17:04] <Lancer_Koala> is there a recommended way to do this?
[17:05] <laga_> you can set that in the mythvideo settings
[17:05] <Lancer_Koala> ah
[17:06] <Lancer_Koala> sweet, I knew that should be easy
[17:08] <Lancer_Koala> laga_: thanks for the help, I think now I just have to wait and see if things go south again
[17:09] <Lancer_Koala> and since shoutcast totally hosed their website, I can pass the time learning how to tweak mythstream
[17:09] <Lancer_Koala> :-)
[20:39] <highno> !help dvbs
[20:40] <highno> hm, anyone around help me setting up channels on my Mythbuntu 8.04.1 with two NOVA-S cards? I am lost - no channel scan works...
[22:05] <Redhammer> hi I am living in the UK, actually in sight of the Crystal Palace transmitter and am having real trouble tuning some channels, I have over 70% signal strength but cannot get a lock
[22:05] <Redhammer> now I have install a variable attenuator and I can get a lock but signal strength drops to low to maintain consistent recording
[22:05] <Redhammer>  any ideas? also the LCN / channel numbers are all messed
[22:05] <Redhammer>  this is dvb reception btw
[23:06] <Valued_Customer> n
[23:27] <MythbuntuGuest49> can anyone point me in the direction to learn how to install flash on my ubuntu install, my son wants to play on toondisney but it requires flash
[23:27] <MythbuntuGuest49> i know it is not myth related, but you are my only resource right now
[23:27] <superm1> install flasplugin nonfree in synaptic
[23:33] <squish102> but if u running 64 bit, i think it is a problem