| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| EruditeHermit | hi, is it known which theme will be the default for intrepid? | 02:29 |
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| carciofo | good morning world | 10:05 |
| aantn | morning carciofo | 10:06 |
| carciofo | ah | 10:09 |
| carciofo | hi | 10:09 |
| carciofo | just about trying screencast | 10:09 |
| carciofo | what do the ubuntu artwork? | 10:12 |
| carciofo | what kind of artworks? | 10:12 |
| carciofo | such as digital artwort i guess :- ) | 10:24 |
| Cimi | kwwii, firefox patch | 15:23 |
| kwwii | Cimi: he | 15:34 |
| kwwii | erm | 15:34 |
| kwwii | hey | 15:34 |
| kwwii | Cimi: not sure I understand what you mena | 15:34 |
| kwwii | and I definitely cannot type today | 15:35 |
| Cimi | kwwii, you asked me to remember you to ping a developer to ask if he would have patched firefox in order to add rounded entry | 15:36 |
| kwwii | ahhh, right...I'll bug asac now | 15:36 |
| kwwii | jolt my memory here...there is a patch available and we need to get the firefox maintainer to apply it? | 15:37 |
| Cimi | the patch landed in 3.1 trunk, but I guess it should work for 3.0 | 15:37 |
| kwwii | ahh, right | 15:38 |
| Cimi | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=332569 | 15:38 |
| Cimi | there's the patch | 15:38 |
| Cimi | kwwii, the reason why I have changed "style" to "profile" is that I want to be able to add a real "style" option in the future: for example to manage a totally new style | 15:39 |
| Cimi | (in murrine's code) | 15:40 |
| Cimi | the actual *styles*, renamed to *profile = ...* are based to the murrine rendering code, they pass some gradients and options to the murrine code. they are not a real new style | 15:41 |
| kwwii | Cimi: sounds like a very good idea | 15:43 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: You're needed in -devel. | 15:44 |
| kwwii | Cimi: do you have a link to the whole bug and not just the patch? | 15:44 |
| Cimi | yeah | 15:45 |
| Cimi | kwwii, so to make your theme compatible with the latest subversion just remove the "style = MURRINE" from your gtkrc | 15:46 |
| Cimi | _MMA_, too | 15:46 |
| Cimi | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=405421 | 15:46 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 405421 in Widget: Gtk "Ensure our widget painting is transparent for themes that support it" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 15:46 |
| kwwii | Cimi: erm, this will effect a lot of themes I guess | 15:47 |
| Cimi | kwwii, no | 15:47 |
| Cimi | kwwii, just your theme | 15:47 |
| Cimi | style = MURRINE was introduced in the SVN, so there should be only your theme that needs to be fixed | 15:48 |
| dilomo | hey guys | 15:48 |
| kwwii | Cimi: hehe, cool | 15:49 |
| kwwii | Cimi: I'll remove that when I update the theme in a day or two | 15:50 |
| dilomo | anybody knows how to overlap images in metacity theme? | 15:50 |
| dilomo | like that : http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=89997_Jonined_122_801lo.jpg | 15:50 |
| Cimi | dilomo, metacity should not use pixmaps | 15:50 |
| dilomo | who said that? | 15:51 |
| dilomo | if it is easier to do | 15:51 |
| dilomo | why not use images? | 15:51 |
| Cimi | because, and even benzea said to you, they *sucks* | 15:52 |
| Cimi | and for example, given the bugged compiz+nvidia | 15:52 |
| Cimi | you'll lose window borders and fail under a lor of artifacts | 15:52 |
| Cimi | just try pixmap themes with compiz | 15:53 |
| dilomo | well I'm using pixmaps only for the buttons | 15:53 |
| Cimi | oh then it should be ok | 15:53 |
| Cimi | anyway | 15:54 |
| Cimi | you can't overlap | 15:54 |
| dilomo | so back to the question: how can I overlap button images? | 15:54 |
| dilomo | that sucks | 15:54 |
| dilomo | :) | 15:54 |
| Cimi | overlapping is not necessary | 15:55 |
| Cimi | maybe it should be more useful to manage the different layouts | 15:55 |
| Cimi | so you can have different images when you have only minimaze and close | 15:55 |
| Cimi | and different images with all the buttons | 15:56 |
| Cimi | you'll achieve what you want without overlapping | 15:56 |
| Cimi | that means a better code | 15:56 |
| dilomo | but is how is that possible? explain | 15:56 |
| Cimi | i don't think it is possible | 15:56 |
| dilomo | how do I do these layouts? | 15:57 |
| Cimi | I've just said it should be better if metacity would support layourts rather than overlapping | 15:57 |
| dilomo | ok | 15:57 |
| Cimi | I'm not sure but maybe you can do this too | 15:58 |
| Cimi | now | 15:59 |
| Cimi | try to read frames | 15:59 |
| Cimi | in the metacity.xml | 15:59 |
| Cimi | you can manage different layout for utility ...... | 15:59 |
| dilomo | is there a way to detect if only close button will appear because | 16:00 |
| dilomo | only then I need different image for the button | 16:00 |
| Cimi | I can't help you, I'm busy till october | 16:01 |
| dilomo | no I will need more checks to do that | 16:01 |
| Cimi | but *maybe* | 16:01 |
| Cimi | if you run metacity-theme-viewer | 16:02 |
| Cimi | you can see how *dialogs* have no minimize button | 16:02 |
| Cimi | so you can play with it | 16:02 |
| dilomo | ok thanks for the tip | 16:03 |
| dilomo | there is one case when the window has fixed size and cannot be maximized | 16:14 |
| dilomo | that breaks everything I might make | 16:14 |
| dilomo | I found a way to do it. | 16:23 |
| CimiDS | well | 16:24 |
| Elf1991 | Hi people | 16:32 |
| Elf1991 | who is Russia ?? | 16:33 |
| Elf1991 | gays !!?!! | 16:34 |
| cody-somerville | No, the Russia isn't the gays. | 16:34 |
| * _MMA_ is gay. | 16:34 | |
| Elf1991 | cody-somerville are from Russia ?? | 16:35 |
| * _MMA_ tries despreatly to think of a "In Soviet Russia..." joke. | 16:36 | |
| Elf1991 | Áëèí êòî Ðóññêèé çíàåò à ? | 16:36 |
| _MMA_ | Elf1991: You asked. Nobody said "yes" SO there's your answer. | 16:36 |
| Elf1991 | Chert | 16:37 |
| _MMA_ | And the over-use of punctuation will get you nowhere. It's just annoying. | 16:37 |
| Elf1991 | sorry | 16:37 |
| Elf1991 | Designer I work here and want to help as nebud. | 16:39 |
| _MMA_ | Join the mailing list. http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Help where you can. | 16:39 |
| _MMA_ | Elf1991: Do you have a portfolio? A place that shows your work? | 16:40 |
| Elf1991 | Sorry for my bad English | 16:40 |
| Elf1991 | I'm 3D modeller | 16:40 |
| Elf1991 | I was not portfolio. But I can find elaborating | 16:41 |
| Elf1991 | :) | 16:41 |
| _MMA_ | Do you have examples of your work? | 16:41 |
| _MMA_ | Link us. | 16:41 |
| Elf1991 | sure | 16:42 |
| Elf1991 | I just made the fish (which lasted 2 - 3 hours). I'm game developer. Allrigth now upload | 16:44 |
| Elf1991 | http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6495/finishfishtj9.jpg - this is my work, but 30% my opportunities | 16:47 |
| Elf1991 | http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1315/002vs3.png - this is one of the machines for the mini-games (not smarter) | 16:51 |
| Elf1991 | As you? | 16:53 |
| _MMA_ | I don't understand. | 16:55 |
| Elf1991 | Do you like my work? | 16:55 |
| dilomo | _MMA_ : he means this is one of the cars | 16:56 |
| _MMA_ | It's kind of small and hard to see. | 16:56 |
| dilomo | because mashina in russian means car | 16:56 |
| Elf1991 | yes =) | 16:57 |
| _MMA_ | I see. | 16:57 |
| dilomo | so Elf1991 do you have some bigger rendering? | 16:57 |
| Elf1991 | I'm have big view but he on work | 16:57 |
| dilomo | can you make 3D cursors? | 16:57 |
| Elf1991 | yes sure | 16:58 |
| Elf1991 | I'm game developer | 16:58 |
| Elf1991 | cursors this is very easy for my | 16:59 |
| dilomo | can you make a preview of pointer that is modern and new | 16:59 |
| dilomo | for the future Ubuntu version? | 16:59 |
| Elf1991 | yes I'm designer | 17:00 |
| dilomo | btw I'm Anton nice to meet you | 17:00 |
| dilomo | I'm from Bulgaria | 17:00 |
| Elf1991 | cool | 17:01 |
| Elf1991 | Iliy | 17:01 |
| dilomo | ? | 17:01 |
| Elf1991 | My name is Ilya | 17:02 |
| Elf1991 | I seldom write to English | 17:02 |
| Elf1991 | (((( | 17:02 |
| dilomo | I understand | 17:02 |
| Elf1991 | =) | 17:02 |
| Elf1991 | I happen =) | 17:03 |
| dilomo | You will learn as you type more and more | 17:03 |
| Elf1991 | sure I have a little time now, Sun Work, work | 17:03 |
| === CimiDS is now known as Cimi | ||
| dilomo | as _MMA_ said you should join the mailing list | 17:04 |
| dilomo | to have all news and discussions | 17:05 |
| Elf1991 | sure I'm register through 2 as the clock come home | 17:06 |
| dilomo | Отлично | 17:06 |
| Elf1991 | ÎÎÎ òû ïî ðóññêè ãîâîðèøü =) | 17:07 |
| Elf1991 | Ãóä | 17:07 |
| dilomo | However I was trying to say good job | 17:07 |
| dilomo | in Russian | 17:07 |
| Elf1991 | Why good? I'm not undestand ((( | 17:09 |
| dilomo | Good because when you go home you will register to the mailing list | 17:10 |
| Elf1991 | AAAA yes yes. How many members our team ?? | 17:11 |
| dilomo | well there are many ppl out there. | 17:12 |
| dilomo | I have a team that has 11 or so members | 17:12 |
| dilomo | at the art-meeting we were around 160 | 17:13 |
| Elf1991 | xm ... allright | 17:14 |
| Elf1991 | Well, all I went home. See you through the clock - two. Before the emergency meeting. | 17:15 |
| _MMA_ | dilomo: 160 was just the people in the room. I bet no more that 10 were there interested in the art. | 17:16 |
| dilomo | probably but how many people are reading the mailing list? | 17:17 |
| Elf1991 | Bye | 17:18 |
| dilomo | bye | 17:19 |
| _MMA_ | dilomo: Hard to tell. So many people drop off. So many just get the digest. | 17:19 |
| dilomo | yeah it's hard to determine | 17:20 |
| thorwil | i think i had cases of 70 hits a day on my blog from posting to the list | 17:21 |
| dilomo | cool | 17:22 |
| dilomo | I have to go | 17:24 |
| dilomo | bbl | 17:24 |
| thorwil | pukey things make me shine | 17:38 |
| * _MMA_ shines his puke. | 17:39 | |
| * kwwii is not feeling well, laying down for a while | 17:47 | |
| _MMA_ | lightweight | 17:48 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: So. Whatcha wanna do around here for Jaunty? | 17:48 |
| DanaG | mmm, gotta love the glitchy windeco on nvidia. =þ | 17:54 |
| _MMA_ | Got a bug number that says it's more than just your crackful system? | 17:56 |
| DanaG | can't test right now... backlight inverter on the compiz-capable laptop is dead. =þ | 17:57 |
| savvas | so we could mix and crossover jazz jackrabbit and an antilope.. in a yellowish colour :P | 17:58 |
| DanaG | Mmm, 237 new messages in my gmail, all from the "Firefox shows an EULA!" bug. | 17:58 |
| savvas | that was bug? | 17:58 |
| savvas | heh | 17:58 |
| _MMA_ | So it shoulda read "DanaG: mmm, gotta love *my* glitchy windeco on *my* nvidia card. =þ" | 17:58 |
| Cimi | the metacity should be improved | 17:59 |
| savvas | i get the window decolourisation on nvidia too :\ | 17:59 |
| DanaG | And the glitchy buttons.... | 18:09 |
| DanaG | and the missing color except for one triangle all the way across. | 18:09 |
| Cimi | write a better metacity theme | 18:11 |
| Cimi | maybe your code could be better | 18:12 |
| DanaG | Ehh, for now I just live with it. | 18:13 |
| DanaG | And with my next laptop, I have ATI... so I'll be able to see whether it's just an nvidia issue after all. | 18:14 |
| DanaG | s/have/will have/ | 18:14 |
| _MMA_ | DanaG: That's right. Complain and do nothing. :) | 18:14 |
| Cimi | but the metacity remains bugged | 18:16 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: hmm? | 18:29 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: i thought of combining the jackalope with the playboy bunny for an epic! wallpaper | 18:29 |
| _MMA_ | Cool. But I was asking on a bit more serious note. I have ideas, but don't wanna just do it all myself without input. | 18:32 |
| _MMA_ | Most likely will be what happens, but I wanna give people the chance. | 18:32 |
| _MMA_ | Though they'll still bitch later. | 18:32 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: well, currently i wonder if i should try to push my project kyudo shortly after the ibex release | 18:33 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: If you want to push it, I suggest we pull together and start soon. AFAIC, this cycle is over. | 18:34 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: i failed to say no and hene work on an icon for a mud client. but i should get back to kyudo this week. meanwhile, please feel invited to read it and suggest modifications | 18:36 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: https://code.launchpad.net/~t-w-/+junk/kyudo | 18:36 |
| * _MMA_ clicks. | 18:36 | |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: From what I see, this is heavily reliant on Canonical's involvement. Correct? | 18:38 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: i just recently tweaked it a bit ... the idea is to run for either 1st or 2nd place. the effort and standards are the same | 18:40 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: in short: be damn good. i canonical lifts us to default, great, otherwise we just offer what we have anyway :) | 18:41 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: I would like to have a Skype chat with you and kwwii. Do you, or can you use it? | 18:41 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: i only used ekiga once | 18:42 |
| _MMA_ | If you have no moral objections, please try it. It's no harder than making a Jabber account IMO. | 18:42 |
| _MMA_ | You'd be surprised how much it's used around Ubuntuland. :) | 18:43 |
| thorwil | my spoken english sucks donkey balls, though | 18:45 |
| _MMA_ | hahah. It's fine. I heard you on your screencast. :) | 18:45 |
| _MMA_ | Trust me, I've dealt with *way* worse. ;) | 18:46 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: Also, a cold beer sayz I have Troy back on the list for Jaunty. :) | 18:50 |
| thorwil | lol | 18:51 |
| _MMA_ | :P | 18:51 |
| thorwil | chatting with him is both enjoyable and frustrating ;) | 18:52 |
| _MMA_ | Don't I know it. :) | 18:53 |
| DanaG | Does Skype get along any better with PulseAudio than it used to? | 19:02 |
| _MMA_ | I imagine. Since I can play sound with it. Flash and all. It also quite often comes down to your sound card. | 19:03 |
| _MMA_ | Damn. How do I clone in Inkscape? | 19:07 |
| thorwil | alt-d | 19:07 |
| Elf1991 | Hello =) | 19:07 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: Oh killer. Thanx | 19:07 |
| thorwil | too bad there's no pure shape cloning, allowing to change colours | 19:08 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: I got this wallpaper with the same object *duplicated* 1390 times. No wonder it's 25MB. :P | 19:10 |
| thorwil | heh | 19:10 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: you know about tiled clones? | 19:10 |
| _MMA_ | Heard it. Just havent looked into it yet. | 19:11 |
| Elf1991 | I registred =) (probably) | 19:13 |
| _MMA_ | Elf1991: You did. I saw. | 19:13 |
| Elf1991 | good, but I no log in ((( | 19:14 |
| Elf1991 | Boys give links Hyde Gnome design for Linux | 19:18 |
| === Elf1991 is now known as Elf_Warrior | ||
| andreasn | kwwii: ping | 19:27 |
| thorwil | andreasn: about 1:40 ago: * kwwii is not feeling well, laying down for a while | 19:29 |
| andreasn | oh | 19:29 |
| andreasn | thorwil: have you tried out that sound theme? | 19:30 |
| andreasn | that kwwii packaged in his ppa | 19:30 |
| thorwil | andreasn: no. i never use desktop sounds, i enjoy the silence :) | 19:31 |
| andreasn | well, yeah, I like a silent desktop as well | 19:31 |
| * _MMA_ has tried it and ships a sound theme with Studio. | 19:32 | |
| Elf_Warrior | I would be over 20 minutes. And give me please documentation (link) for GNOME Desktope | 19:32 |
| andreasn | there have been suggestions about using the sound theme upstream, so I wanted opinions if people thought it was good or not | 19:32 |
| _MMA_ | Elf_Warrior: It's not that easy. | 19:32 |
| _MMA_ | andreasn: Doesn't say "GNOME" to me but I do think it fits Ubuntu very well. | 19:33 |
| Elf_Warrior | xm ... I was on it and hoped. And I am Russian =). Russian is not how much. | 19:34 |
| andreasn | how would you say GNOME sounds like? | 19:34 |
| _MMA_ | andreasn: That's a good question. :) | 19:34 |
| thorwil | gray and blue with a little strawberry | 19:34 |
| andreasn | :) | 19:34 |
| Elf_Warrior | All I went to bathe. | 19:35 |
| andreasn | I have no idea myself, I tried some sounds called "Cleanus" or something a while ago, but it sounded all Super Mario Bros | 19:35 |
| _MMA_ | 1up! | 19:35 |
| _MMA_ | Here's one for ya. | 19:37 |
| _MMA_ | I got an SVG. | 19:37 |
| _MMA_ | Inkscape svg = 25MB | 19:37 |
| _MMA_ | Inkscape svgz = 8MB | 19:37 |
| _MMA_ | plain svg = 18MB | 19:37 |
| _MMA_ | plain svgz = 2.5MB | 19:37 |
| _MMA_ | WTH? | 19:37 |
| andreasn | _MMA_: what sound is what? | 19:40 |
| andreasn | what is sound1, info? | 19:40 |
| _MMA_ | Oh it's been a bit since I looked at it. I'd have to dig them up and I'm working on something atm. I thought they were labeled? | 19:42 |
| andreasn | well, the startup and shutdown are, but not the others | 19:42 |
| andreasn | don't let me interrupt if you're in the middle of something | 19:43 |
| andreasn | I'll try to figure it out | 19:43 |
| _MMA_ | ok. I'll dig 'em up soon. | 19:43 |
| Elf_Warrior | I am here =) | 19:45 |
| Elf_Warrior | _MMA_ You ïøìó me Hyde? | 19:46 |
| Elf_Warrior | *give | 19:46 |
| _MMA_ | Elf_Warrior: I'm sorry. I don't understand what you want. | 19:47 |
| Elf_Warrior | documentation for disigner for Linux | 19:48 |
| Elf_Warrior | sorry on Linux | 19:48 |
| _MMA_ | Elf_Warrior: As I said, it's not that easy. And the language barrier will make it too hard. See if you can get someone to come in here and help. | 19:49 |
| Elf_Warrior | You know me badly. I am 17 years old are already working art0director. All that easy - I was not smarter. | 19:51 |
| lucazade | http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html | 19:51 |
| lucazade | howto for metacity | 19:51 |
| lucazade | looking for gtk theme howto | 19:52 |
| lucazade | http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials | 19:52 |
| Elf_Warrior | Thank you | 19:52 |
| lucazade | look at this | 19:52 |
| lucazade | in gtk themes you should find how to build an interface under gnome | 19:53 |
| Elf_Warrior | OOOO!!!! This is CSS style !!!!!! | 19:54 |
| lucazade | let us know your progress in theming! | 19:54 |
| _MMA_ | PLEASE!!!!! STOP!!!!! ALL!!!! THE!!!! PUNCTUATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 19:54 |
| lucazade | :D lol | 19:55 |
| Elf_Warrior | lucazade sure =) | 19:55 |
| Elf_Warrior | AAAAAA lol. Creating theme - CSS style !!!!!! This is very easy !!! Very Very !!!!! | 19:58 |
| _MMA_ | Elf_Warrior: I'm not kidding. I don't want to kick you out the channel. | 19:59 |
| Elf_Warrior | You can question? For what? | 20:00 |
| _MMA_ | Stop this -> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ????????????? <- To much. | 20:00 |
| _MMA_ | People don't speak like this. | 20:00 |
| Elf_Warrior | ... sorryþ We are on the other. People like when the text escht emotions | 20:01 |
| _MMA_ | Not here. | 20:02 |
| Elf_Warrior | maby | 20:02 |
| _MMA_ | No. Don't do it. | 20:02 |
| Elf_Warrior | OK | 20:02 |
| Elf_Warrior | Why write so few people? | 20:03 |
| thorwil | we are busy | 20:03 |
| === _MMA_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-artwork to: Channel for the community artwork team | Wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art | Question: Who are we? What do we do? Chime in on the mailing list topics. | ||
| _MMA_ | So someone doesn't get anal... | 20:28 |
| === _MMA_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-artwork to: Channel for the community artwork team | Wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art | Questions: Who are we? What do we do? Chime in on the mailing list topics. | ||
| Elf_Warrior | To some help with painting? | 20:40 |
| _MMA_ | Nice: http://www.linux.com/feature/147173 | 20:45 |
| andreasn | cool | 20:46 |
| _MMA_ | I know I got a couple of old PS plugins laying around I'd like to use. | 20:46 |
| Elf_Warrior | And I'm not friends with GIMP (( | 20:49 |
| _MMA_ | This would have helped many around here as I know I've see this question alot. http://registry.gimp.org/node/9036 | 23:13 |
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