[05:17] <emma> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/270357
[05:29] <Hobbsee> emma: since when do mp3s have a visual component?
[05:29] <Hobbsee> emma: and you'll need to add what type of video card you have in there (lspci -vv will tell you)
[05:30] <Hobbsee>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[05:30] <Hobbsee> ^ to the bug would be helpful too
[05:30] <emma> What does a visual component have to do with anything?
[05:31] <Hobbsee> The program 'totem' received an X Window System error.
[05:32] <Hobbsee> which usually means it has to do with audio
[05:32] <RAOF> Hobbsee: It'll be the visualisation
[05:32] <Hobbsee> er, video
[05:32] <RAOF> Also, howdie :)
[05:33] <emma> Hey there RAOF, yes I believe you have the right idea.
[05:33] <Hobbsee> RAOF: oh, dodgy.  I'd not realised that we included visualisations that crashed.
[05:34] <RAOF> Oh, we totally do.
[05:34] <Hobbsee> the advice about the video card still holds, then, and the name of the visualisation you were using.
[05:35] <emma> I have no idea the name of the visualisations I was using.
[05:35] <Hobbsee> totem doesn't tell you?
[05:36] <emma> ROAF what do you think, would the video card information be useful?
[05:37]  * Hobbsee eyes emma:  fine, don't listen to me then.
[05:37] <emma> Okay.
[05:38] <Hobbsee> . o O { crazy girl, not wanting help with a bug she brought up, presumably to get help with... }
[05:39] <emma> Please don't call me a crazy girl, and my purpose is not to get help with it, my purpose is to make people aware of it, so that others might not have the same problem before release.
[05:40] <Hobbsee> same thing, usually.
[05:40] <Hobbsee> anyway...
[05:40]  * Hobbsee --> uni.
[05:40] <RAOF> What Hobbsee _meant_ was help with making it a useful bug, I'd wager.
[05:40] <Hobbsee> RAOF: precisely.
[05:40] <Hobbsee> RAOF: which then means it might get fixed before release.
[05:41] <emma> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/270357
[08:46] <dholbach> good morning
[09:39] <nullack> Ping seb128 : evening, can bug 251910 go upstream or is it an Ubuntu specific issue
[10:06] <seb128> nullack: you can try, that could be the same issue than bug #252174 and there is no good stacktrace
[10:11] <nullack> seb128 : They might be related but I notice the seg fault is occuring in different functions so Im reluctant to duplicate them unless you think its ok
[10:11] <seb128> I've no clue about those bugs
[10:11] <seb128> they are not trivial upstream issues
[10:11] <nullack> Ok, Ill try and replicate and see if I get a good stack dump
[10:11] <nullack> Yeah, and times running out for 2.24 on gnome
[10:12] <nullack> I see 252717 is upstream so atleast one of them is with gnome
[12:29] <hggdh> given the release of abrowser, I opened bug 270475
[13:17] <dholbach> pedro_, bdmurray: popey is looking for bugs he can help you out with :-)
[13:17] <dholbach> popey: SCNR
[13:17] <popey> :)
[13:17] <popey> swine :)
[13:18] <pedro_> hey popey! do you have anything in mind?
[13:18] <pedro_> is always good to start with the bugs without a package ;-)
[13:19] <pedro_> we have tons of them
[13:19] <dholbach> I'd  L O V E  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.status_upstream=resolved_upstream to list 0 bugs :)
[13:19] <pedro_> buenos dias pochu!
[13:19] <popey> well.. I'm not sure if it's my state of mind today, but i looked through yesterdays, and apport, and expirable and nothing leapt out at me that I could do anything about
[13:19] <seb128> dholbach: not going to happen any time soon
[13:19] <popey> maybe I'm missing something
[13:20] <Hobbsee> seb128: try harder?  :)
[13:20] <dholbach> Hobbsee: word up!
[13:20] <Hobbsee> seb128: or get more inventive about how it gets down to 0?  :)
[13:20] <Hobbsee> dholbach: hrm?
[13:20] <seb128> dholbach: and not especially a good idea, we have lot of GNOME bugs which are fixed upstream and where we prefer to wait for the next tarball than waste efforts backporting
[13:20] <seb128> Hobbsee: ^
[13:20] <Hobbsee> seb128: that's true.
[13:21] <dholbach> seb128: right........ there are lots of others though
[13:21] <seb128> also launchpad is buggy
[13:21] <dholbach> lots of bugs that ARE fixed already too
[13:21] <Aron_> ......
[13:21] <dholbach> seb128: yes, that list needs at least two fixes
[13:21] <Hobbsee> seb128: have you tried whining about the particular bugs lately?  there's a QA-Launchpad meeting on soon.
[13:21] <seb128> if there is a nautilus bug which has a cairo and a nautilus upstream task and the cairo one is closed it'll list the bug there
[13:21] <seb128> where there is no nautilus upstream task closed
[13:21] <dholbach> seb128: yes, I filed a bug about that already
[13:22] <pochu> hola pedro_! :)
[13:22] <Hobbsee> dholbach: how long ago?
[13:23] <dholbach> Hobbsee: a while, not exactly sure
[13:24] <pochu> hey andre___ :)
[13:25] <Hobbsee> dholbach: hmmm.
[13:26] <andre___> hej hej
[13:33] <popey> what's the name of the console app that pops up giving you the option to do various repair various things like X11 ?
[13:34] <popey> (from recovery mode)
[13:41] <popey> woot, figured it out - friendly-recovery
[14:25] <bddebian> Boo
[18:22] <mrooney> hm, when do I report bugs in network-manager vs network-manager-applet?
[18:27] <mrooney> specifically I want to make sure I put bug 270596 in the right place
[18:27] <mrooney> oh, asac_ could probably tell me :)
[18:28] <asac_> mrooney: ping me in 3 hours
[18:28] <asac_> have to run out now
[18:29] <mrooney> asac_: okay, I will be away then but I will in about 6 or 7, or perhaps someone else can give me a hint, I am sure we can catch each other sometime, thanks!
[19:25] <chrisccoulson> just looking at bug 270531
[19:25] <chrisccoulson> the reporter is using a version of gtk-qt-egine from a PPA
[19:26] <chrisccoulson> are we allowing people to report bugs against a specific PPA version of this package (like with NM)?
[19:28] <james_w> not that I've heard
[19:28] <james_w> who's PPA is it?
[19:28] <chrisccoulson> it doesn't say
[19:28] <Ampelbein> chrisccoulson: if it cannot be replicated with a version in the repos i would close as invalid.
[19:28] <bdmurray> I'm not aware of a specific call for testing with that ppa package
[19:29] <chrisccoulson> i'll give the reporter to test it with an official version of the package then before i close it
[19:29] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[19:29] <chrisccoulson> ***i'll give the reporter a chance to test
[19:29] <chrisccoulson> d'oh!
[19:29] <Ampelbein> and i think network-manager is in the official archive, though it's a svn-version.
[19:29] <chrisccoulson> yeah, NM is in the official archive now, but it started of in a PPA
[19:30] <james_w> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gtk-qt-engine/
[19:30] <james_w> you may want to alert kubuntu-devel to it
[19:30] <chrisccoulson> thanks for spotting that
[20:10] <bdmurray> mvo: ping
[20:37] <mvo> bdmurray: pong (but on the phone)
[20:37] <bdmurray> mvo: I was just looking at bug 270527 and thought it might be easy to fix.  I'm not sure of the best way after looking at the code though.
[20:38] <mvo> oh, right
[20:38] <mvo> bdmurray: probably just safe the original version I guess (from memory)
[20:39] <bdmurray> mvo: so have 2 srcver variables?  1 w/o the epoch stripped and one with?
[20:42] <mvo> bdmurray: yeah, that sounds reasonable. or when there is a epoch, safe that for later
[20:43] <bdmurray> mvo: Is that something you'd like me to do?
[20:45] <mvo> bdmurray: if you want, I would certainly welcome a patch :)
[20:45] <bdmurray> mvo: sure, I can do that.  Is the main update-manager branch the right one to use?
[20:46] <mvo> yes
[20:46] <mvo> thanks bdmurray
[21:01] <mvo> bdmurray: I go to bed now, if you ahve a fix for me, please let me know, I will be happy to merge :)
[21:01]  * mvo waves
[21:26] <pwnguin> heh. i wonder if i can feed hard answers.lp.com questions into stackoverflow and get decent answers back
[21:27] <maco> if i want to join bug control, the wiki says there's an application you receive when you first try to join the lp team. i did that a while ago, then decided not to join. how do i get the application again so i an apply now?
[21:29] <james_w> maco: see the "Application" section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl
[21:29] <maco> james_w: thanks
[21:30] <maco> oo hehe ok it's the same questions
[21:56] <myron> I think I've found a bug with sudo
[21:57] <Dejavou42> It's not the normal difference between /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[21:58] <Dejavou42> But, I'm getting "Unable to resolve host error when sudo runs
[21:59] <Dejavou42> and all of the sudo functions still work, it just gives me that error message
[21:59] <Dejavou42> Any takers?
[21:59] <bdmurray> What release of ubuntu is that?
[22:00] <Dejavou42> 8.04, but not upgraded. 8.04 was installed as new install
[22:01] <james_w> sounds a lot like bug 32906
[22:03] <Dejavou42> so I should just be able to download that fix, right?
[22:05] <james_w> it should be fixed if you have hardy-updates enabled
[22:05] <james_w> well, no, sorry, you still get the warning, but it is harmless with the fix
[22:07] <Dejavou42> The weird thing is that it didn't start happening until I started customizing ubunutu
[22:08] <Dejavou42> I added a virtual machine (with Virtualbox), gave it a local IP when it is running, and set up a terminal server on the  ubuntu box  with ltsp
[22:08] <james_w> Dejavou42: did you use gnome-system-tools?
[22:09] <james_w> System->Administration->Network Tools
[22:10] <Dejavou42> yeah, but not to edit anything. I've just looked at all the settings through network tools
[22:11] <Dejavou42> and I've pinged a few local computers
[22:11] <Dejavou42> all the editing I did through terminal
[22:11] <james_w> did you change /etc/hosts?
[22:13] <Dejavou42> I did, but not until after I started having the problem
[22:13] <Dejavou42> I've already checked /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts they are the same
[22:17] <Dejavou42> I've got a thread running on ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=893188
[22:18] <Dejavou42> As long as that error message is harmless (which it seems to be) it doesn't matter to me. It sure beats the lousy blue screen of death in windows any day.:)
[22:28] <Dejavou42> if the sudo functions work I shouldn't be concerned about it right?
[22:30] <bdmurray> Dejavou42: what is returned if you enter hostname?
[22:31] <Dejavou42> ubuntu
[22:31] <Dejavou42> ubuntu is also in the /etc/hosts file
[22:32] <bdmurray> hmm, and in /etc/hostname?
[22:33] <Dejavou42> ubuntu
[22:34] <bdmurray> weird, well as long as sudo functions you shouldn't be concerned
[22:35] <Dejavou42> great thanks for the help bdmurray and james_w