[00:50] <Flannel> sigh
[00:50] <sajes> People are talking about "morons" in #ubuntu-offtopic which offends myself as well as people with a lesser mental ability.
[01:04] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[01:08] <Seeker`> lo Myrtti
[01:09] <Myrtti> 1h sleep done, going to try for few more...
[01:09] <Myrtti> -->
[01:09] <Seeker`> good luck
[02:45] <Madpilot> just a flood. bot dealt with it.
[02:56] <Ttech> Sup.
[02:57] <Ttech> I was banned in #ubuntu for a connection failure? :? But, I see only one result for my whowas... And if my connection was really failing, I'd like to know.
[03:02] <Flannel> Ttech: I'll take a look
[03:03] <Flannel> Ttech: You were.  Forwarded to ##fix_your_connection
[03:03] <Flannel> Ttech: you were jumping in and out all over the place, obviously you're not anymore.
[03:04] <Flannel> Ttech: try now
[03:40] <Flannel> Ttech: You were failing on the 7th, so about a week ago.
[05:21] <Madpilot> is the floodbot lagged all to hell?
[05:22] <Myrtti> thanks, 770 isn't that fast
[05:22] <Madpilot> np.
[05:23] <Madpilot> no op script for the 770's IRC client like Sev's for XChat?
[05:24] <Myrtti> I use irssi on this - but typing with my thumbnails is slow
[05:24] <Myrtti> er, slower than typing on a real keyboard
[05:25] <Myrtti> and my mad typing skills with this  are a bit rusty
[05:27] <Madpilot> a script would still help - /cs kb troll<TAB> is faster than the alternative
[05:29] <Myrtti> I've got my aliases
[05:29] <Myrtti> have to review them though
[05:31] <Flannel> Oh dear, that guy again?
[06:03] <Madpilot> Flannel, edu-kick for the chap in #u?
[06:04] <Flannel> I didn't do it
[06:04] <Flannel> he left
[06:04] <Flannel> before I could tell him to use queries, even
[06:04] <Flannel> call ops, then run away in shame, I guess
[06:04] <Madpilot> actually, I was suggesting an edu-kick - hadn't noticed that he'd slunk off...
[06:05] <Madpilot> heh. call ops, realize that it really does bring actual ops, realize that might not have been clever?
[06:05] <Flannel> I guess
[06:25] <Flannel> Anyone with -ot awake?
[06:25] <Flannel> Madpilot, Myrtti?
[06:25] <Madpilot> hmm?
[06:25] <Myrtti> hmm
[06:25] <Flannel> Myrtti: calvalry
[06:26] <Flannel> Oh, etiher one of you ;)
[06:26] <Madpilot> Cavalry in -ot?
[06:26] <Flannel> Madpilot: yes
[06:33] <Flannel> Eh?
[06:33] <Flannel> Floodbots are broked
[06:34] <Myrtti> Madpilot: a bit harsh
[06:34] <Flannel> Madpilot: kb wasn't needed.
[06:34] <Madpilot> sorry - twitch.
[06:34] <Madpilot> ban removed
[06:34] <stdin> Flannel: floodbot2 is missing, so it's a permanent emergency mode
[06:34] <Flannel> Especially after I had done something
[06:35] <Flannel> stdin: Hmm, can we get annoucements in here or something so we can know about that?
[06:35] <Myrtti> LjL: poit?
[06:36] <Flannel> stdin: Other channels are excessive
[06:36] <Madpilot> have the Floodbot settings been tweaked to lower sensitivity? we've had some long floods they haven't caught this evening
[06:36] <Flannel> stdin: as I imagine theres a lot more traffic in there than "we're broken" and "we're fixed"
[06:36] <stdin> so you want the floodbots to flood? ;P
[06:37] <Flannel> stdin: No, I want the floodbots to have a single "we're not working" in this channel.  So I know to be more aware of things like that.
[06:37] <stdin> Flannel: nothing stopping you from joining, doing "status" and parting
[06:37] <Flannel> stdin: Except that's stupid.
[06:38] <stdin> there's really not much traffic in there anyway
[06:38] <stdin> and the bots would have to join here to send messages anyway
[06:38] <Flannel> Theyre already in here
[06:38] <Flannel> Er, ubottu relays it
[06:39] <stdin> it only relays ops calls
[06:40] <Flannel> stdin: Mmm, true.  stdin, I don't *want* to get pinged regarding exploits, for instance, (I will if I'm in -monitor), I just want notification when somethings broken
[06:40] <Flannel> stdin: Also, do they actively say "we're in emergency mode"? or am I still going to have to poll them?
[06:41] <Flannel> I'll give it a try, at any rate.
[06:41] <Myrtti> perhaps put all the bots in notify?
[06:41] <Flannel> but I'm running out of keyboard keys to map channels to.
[06:41] <stdin> well, we can make a channel specific ops factoid for that channel, so it doesn't ping you. and they only say when you poll them
[06:42] <Flannel> So, again, they won't actually say "hey, we're broken"  That seems like a nice feature to have
[06:42] <stdin> well, they do say "<nick> floods, but emergency mode is on" when someone floods and they are in emergency mode
[06:43] <stdin> they aren't "broken", just in emergency mode
[06:43] <Flannel> Alright.  I'll give it a shot
[06:43] <Flannel> They're not functioning, and therefore broken ;)
[06:43] <stdin> so they should ping everyone and say "we're broken" if a bot splits or gets restarted?
[06:44] <Flannel> Perhaps if it stays that way for an extended period of time, it would be nice to be notified so someone could look into it and we can resume doing manually what theyve been automated to do
[06:44] <stdin> we should probably come up with a contingency for when a bot dies though (probably more bots on stand-by)
[06:44] <Flannel> I dont think it should ping everyone, just a message in here would suffice
[06:46] <Flannel> But like I said, I'll give -monitor a shot, I just fear it'll have too much noise to be useful for that purpose.
[06:47] <stdin> you only need to look there when you want to look, and you'd only get a ping when ops is called, which can be fixed in ubottu
[06:48] <stdin> unless you hilight on the ops call itself that is
[06:48] <Flannel> stdin: having to actively look/poll defeats the purpose
[06:50] <stdin> you'd have to ask L j L to do something about that
[07:46] <jussi01> moins
[07:47] <Flannel> Howdy jussi01
[07:47] <jussi01> Heya Flannel
[07:54] <Myrtti> PINK EMACS!
[07:54] <Myrtti> I finally did it!
[07:54] <jussi01> hehe
[09:28] <Myrtti> how nice
[10:06]  * gnomefreak thought a mail client would support smtp not so much ubuntu
[10:08] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: ubuntu is so great it supports everything
[10:08] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:10] <Flannel> !smtp =~ /7.10/8.04
[10:10] <Flannel> !smtp =~ /7.10/8.04/
[10:10] <Flannel> !smtp
[10:10] <Flannel> hmm
[10:10] <Flannel> oh, duh
[10:11] <Flannel> !smtp =~ #/7\.10/#/8.04/#
[10:11] <Flannel> I love you too ubot5
[10:18]  * Flannel reminds everyone of manual flood protection, and heads to bed.
[10:45] <Myrtti> the daily motivator: http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/09/14/review-love-is-the-killer-app/
[13:01] <Tm_M> hi kids
[13:02] <Myrtti> TiredWolf: could you hug Floodbot2?
[13:03]  * TiredWolf hugs FloodBot2
[13:03] <TiredWolf> but i'm not sure that helps bringing it back
[13:03] <Myrtti> is it yours?
[13:03] <TiredWolf> no Myrtti
[13:04] <Tm_M> heh
[13:04] <Myrtti> socks.
[13:04] <Myrtti> Mezs?
[13:04] <Myrtti> nals?
[13:04] <TiredWolf> Myrtti: it was nalioth's last time
[13:06] <Myrtti> oh doodah
[13:07] <Myrtti> my cyberstalker has arrived
[13:08] <Tm_M> me?
[13:08] <Myrtti> no
[13:08] <Tm_M> höh
[14:34] <elky> heh, 23:33 and i submit the paper. yay.
[14:37] <jrib> does anyone know anything about NICE|BOT?
[14:37] <jrib> it messaged me before, I removed it and it's back no longer responding to me addressing it
[14:38] <elky> how did you get it to address you before?
[14:38] <jrib> well first it happened when I was talking to yates
[14:38] <jrib> and I also did !icons > to_someone
[14:39] <elky> i mean, what triggered the blasted thing?
[14:39] <jrib> I'm not sure
[14:39] <jrib> it sent me a private message with those two lines.  Me addressing yates and the !icons >
[14:40] <jrib> then when I did "NICE|BOT: do not run bots that message people" it echoed it back to me
[14:40] <jrib> 193.17.253.11: ALEkSeY, NICE|BOT
[14:40] <jrib> both left now
[14:41] <elky> ah, i see the parts now
[14:44] <elky> urgh, evil google docs killed firefox :(
[14:47] <elky> jrib, care to lend me your eyes for a few mins?
[14:48] <jrib> elky: sure
[14:48] <elky> see pm in a sec
[14:50] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[14:50] <elky> ooh, another potential reviewer
[14:50] <elky> Myrtti, :)
[14:52] <Myrtti> sure
[14:53] <elky> im working on the typos... which involves trying to wrangle oo.o to actually use a spellchecker
[14:53] <elky> which it seems to have forgotten how to do
[15:03] <elky> yay, i has spellchecking
[15:04] <Tm_M> i has not
[15:04] <Tm_M> or, it das nut vork rait
[15:08] <Tm_M> det är det, just de
[15:20] <Myrtti> um, ok.
[15:20] <Myrtti> apparently there has been a fire that distroyed a three room apartment in this very building on Saturday.
[15:22] <Seeker`> :O
[15:24] <Tm_M> and you heard it from news today?
[15:24] <Myrtti> yup
[15:24] <Tm_M> nice
[15:25] <Myrtti> heard it from the news today by *ACCIDENT*
[15:30] <Tm_M> i need motorcycle
[15:32] <jdong> Myrtti: I hate hearing news by accident.
[15:33] <jdong> (next cubicle) "No, I didn't hear about that. Really? How bad? NO WAY, right into a wall? That thing is 25 tons! Is that why the 30 controllers had to be RMA'ed?"
[15:36] <Myrtti> jussi01: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/09/15/funny-pictures-hedge-fund/
[18:28] <Myrtti> ho-hum.
[18:29] <Tm_T> indeed
[18:59] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[19:28]  * Myrtti throws a ball against the wall and catches it
[19:28] <Tm_T> heh
[19:28]  * Myrtti throws a ball against the wall and catches it again
[19:28] <Seeker`> ubot5 isn't attached to the bantracker?
[19:28] <Myrtti> no
[19:28] <Seeker`> meh
[19:28] <Myrtti> *boing* *tshuf*
[19:29] <Myrtti> *boing* *tshuf*
[19:29] <Seeker`> it should be
[19:29] <Myrtti> sure
[19:29] <Myrtti> *boing* *tshuf*
[19:30] <Seeker`> *boing* *boing* *tshuf*
[19:31] <Myrtti> nice
[19:40] <jussi01> la de da...
[19:40] <Myrtti> *boing* *boing* *tshuf*
[19:41] <jussi01> sigh...
[19:42] <Myrtti> indeed
[19:42] <Tm_T> sing!
[19:51] <jussi01> no...
[19:52] <Myrtti> *boing* *boing* *tsup* OW
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Myrtti Please stop bouncing that poor little furball against the wall
[19:57] <Myrtti> :-O
[19:57] <Myrtti> I reject your implications
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> feel free to unban djadmiral if I am not around
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> feel free to unban djadmiral if I am not around After his pm comments make it 24 hr ban
[20:04] <_MMA_> Hey guys. Can someone make me an op in #ubuntu-artwork. kwwii did it but didn't make it persistent. ie: I can op back up.
[20:06] <Pricey> That's an amusing access list.
[20:06] <Myrtti> it is
[20:06] <_MMA_> Pricey: In #ubuntu-artwork. I can imagine.
[20:08] <Pricey> _MMA_, gimme a mo, i'm struggling atm
[20:08] <_MMA_> np man. Thanx for the help/
[20:08] <Pricey> So many things to do.
[20:09]  * _MMA_ feels Josephs pain.
[20:09] <Pricey> can't get a response from nickserv :/ one mo
[20:10] <_MMA_> I'm stepping down from Studio, taking over the art team, trying to find a new job, cleaning the house and trying not to neglect my kids. :P
[20:10] <Myrtti> as I've said before, seeing Pricey sign emails with Joe or Joseph makes me feel funny.
[20:10] <Tm_T> heh
[20:11] <Myrtti> it just isn't right.
[20:11] <Tm_T> it isn't
[20:11]  * Myrtti huggles Pricey
[20:11] <Myrtti> Pricey sounds to me so much more affectionate for some odd reason
[20:16] <Myrtti> *boing* *boing* *tshuf*
[20:23] <Pricey> _MMA_, sorted
[20:24]  * _MMA_ hugs Pricey. Thanx man.
[20:38] <Myrtti> *boing* *boing* *tshuf*
[20:39] <Seeker`> lo Myrtti
[20:40] <Myrtti> lo Seeker`
[20:42] <jussi01> ok, enough with the boing bouing stuf...
[20:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Splat
[20:43] <Myrtti> jussi01: but I'm bored
[20:43] <jussi01> and?
[20:45] <Myrtti> meh.
[20:45] <Myrtti> nevermind then
[21:05] <Pici> boing
[21:06] <Myrtti> PICI!
[21:06]  * Myrtti jumpglomps Pici 
[21:06] <Pici> MYRTTI
[21:06] <Myrtti> I've missed you!
[21:06] <Pici> HI :)
[21:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Dogpile on the Rabbit...
[21:06] <Pici> Well, Hallo.  Its only been like 3 days ;)
[21:08] <Myrtti> Pici Pici Pici
[21:08] <Myrtti> could you blog about Ultamatix?
[21:08] <Myrtti> :->
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Another installation script?
[21:10] <Myrtti> well we *cough* need a source to quote at Wikipedia
[21:10] <Myrtti> and you happened to be vocal during the original autopsy
[21:10] <Pici> Heh
[21:10] <Pici> I guess I could put something together..
[21:11] <Myrtti> there's some stuff on the backlog
[21:12] <Myrtti> I'd write it myself, but I've edited the wikipedia article, so I'd be quoting myself
[21:13] <Pici> Thats illegal, right?
[21:13] <Myrtti> faux pas
[21:14] <Myrtti> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/09/13/%23ubuntu-ops.html
[21:14] <Seeker`> Pici: death penalty
[21:16] <Myrtti> 13:02
[21:17] <Pici> Myrtti: roger
[21:17] <Myrtti> it has to be as much technical and facts based as possible
[21:18] <Myrtti> no bashing or tarnishing
[21:18] <Myrtti> just facts.
[21:18] <Pici> So "Ultimatix has cooties" would be a no-no?
[21:18] <Myrtti> (fact is that a) it violates dmca b) it violates gpl c) the author 'lies' with the claim he has 'rewritten' it etc...)
[21:19] <Seeker`> was it not rewritten?
[21:20] <Myrtti> 11:23 stdin who said they wanted a diff? ;) http://pastebin.com/d2dd9aac
[21:20] <Myrtti> 11:24 stdin automatix 2.0.7 vs current ultamatix
[21:20] <Seeker`> expired
[21:20] <Myrtti> damn
[21:21] <Myrtti> well, it surely isn't rewritten.
[21:21] <Myrtti> run a diff against automatix and ultamatix and you can see it yourself
[21:22] <Myrtti> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13010881/automatix_2.0.7.orig.tar.gz
[21:22] <Myrtti> vs. ultamatix -webpage tarball
[21:23] <Myrtti> most of the "rewritten" parts were sed -i 's/Automatix/Ultamatix/g' *
[21:24] <Seeker`> ah
[21:47] <Myrtti> meh.
[21:47] <Myrtti> take care kids
[21:48] <Myrtti> you think -ot will be fine?
[21:48]  * Flannel is heading to class, hasn't been paying attention either.
[21:49] <Myrtti> it will be fine.
[21:49] <Myrtti> I'm off.
[22:35] <elky> heh, he rewrote it in to about the same level as Microsoft rewrote the tcp ip stack.