[00:17] is there a chm reader for xubuntu hardy amd64? [00:17] the firefox addon wont work [00:38] !find chm [00:38] Found: fetchmail, archmage, archmbox, chm2pdf, chmsee (and 14 others) [00:39] well chmsee didnt work either but chm viewer does [00:39] ty [02:59] anyone know whether it is possible to style xfce's panels the way the window borders can be styled? [03:12] have a goggle for gtkrc-2.0 - you can set one up in your home folder to style the panel [03:14] http://paste.ubuntu.com/47056/ - is my .gtkrc-2.0 file [03:32] eep. battery failed. question: is it possible to style the borders of panels the way window borders can be styled in xfce? [03:46] Ultraputz: while you were gone, favro said the following: favro | have a goggle for gtkrc-2.0 - you can set one up in your home folder to style the panel [03:47] favro | http://paste.ubuntu.com/47056/ - is my .gtkrc-2.0 file [03:47] thank you! [03:47] and it is via this mechanism that you can style the edges of the window? [03:48] like, widget_class "*Panel*" style "" ? [03:49] i'm basically wanting to round the edges of the panels, as i don't use them edge-to-edge, but rather foating here and there. [03:51] Ultraputz: you mean like this? http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [03:52] not exactly, though that's also useful information [03:52] i'm referring to the borders -- the box that tha panel is in [03:52] the borders of the panel object [03:53] not the background image of the panel itself [03:53] you can change the borders of windows in xfce, which is separate from the interface theme (gtk) [03:53] i was wondering if htere was a way to apply a window border style other than plain box to the panels also [03:59] yup [05:09] wb, zoredache [05:23] back [06:51] Well Ubuntu (Xubuntu in fact, though that should make no difference) froze up recently and upon startup dropped to a grub shell of some kind. Poking around, I found it referencing /ubuntu/disks/something, so I booted up Windows and checked this mythical C:/ubuntu/disks/whatever when - lo and behold - I found it was corrupted and unreadable. Do I basically get to reinstall ubuntu? Or is there... [06:51] ...any way at all to fix this? [06:51] (reinstalling ubuntu's not a big issue for me, just the data would be nice) [06:56] Geekthras: so you're using wubi installation, correct? === Geekthras_ is now known as Geekthras [08:12] hi. i lost the bars on the desktop. :( (wubi install) how can you get them back again? [08:13] Press alt + f2 [08:13] type in "xfce4-panel" and hit enter [08:13] wow! [08:14] you spread magick cody-somerville ;) [08:14] * cody-somerville tries :] [08:16] and i'll make sure i can find this one if it happens again.. look like its some nasty punishment after booting back from windows. ;) [08:17] Just make sure to logout correctly and it'll save your session [08:18] ok tnx cody-somerville. === david is now known as Guest603 [09:55] hello. i just removed ubuntu and installed xubuntu. isthere an exstensive config like gconf for ubuntu? [09:58] most gets done through the settings manager from the menu [09:59] well i cant find anything regarding power options. like what cpu frequenzy and what brightness [10:00] I've never seen anything like that - but then I've never looked for it :) [10:01] what app did you use in gnome for that ? - just gconf? [10:01] yes, gcong, then edited gnome-power [10:02] favro, i used to use gnome, now i did a format and installed xubuntu, so i'm triing to reset everithing up. [10:02] yeh I got that - I just don't use any apps like that - someone who does might chime in... [10:03] yes i understand. i havent googled it yet, probably i will find what i need [10:03] can you tell me how to disable the dan sistem beep also? it beeps very loud and it bothers me [10:03] scares me also [10:04] Guest603: there are panel plugins for managing cpu speed and screen brightness, but you can also install gnome-power-manager [10:05] Guest603: I change the beep sound with: xset b 80 1200 5 [10:05] TheSheep, the only panel plugin i found preinstalled was cpu governor, but it just lets me choose what to use, not what to do when ac is connected or on battery [10:05] Guest603: just put it as a command in autostarted applications [10:05] Guest603: for that you need power manager [10:05] TheSheep, does it disable it completely? [10:05] Guest603: put zeroes there to disable it completely [10:06] xset b 0 0 0? [10:06] yesh [10:06] yeah [10:06] k ,i will try [10:06] perfect [10:06] what do those numbers mean? [10:07] and how do i change the autostarted? it used to be sessions... [10:09] that's in the settings manager from applications menu === whaletales is now known as aptanet [10:10] Guest603: The first number is for volume, the second pitch and the third duration of the beep. [10:10] sessions and startup? i dont see anything usefull there... [10:10] Guest603: "autostarted applications" [10:10] Guest603: in "settings amanager" [10:11] Guest603: the very first icon from top left [10:11] oh my god [10:11] you are right...sorry, i dont know why my brain just didnt read that [10:11] :) [10:11] it takes a while to get rid of old habits [10:12] yes i know... [10:12] ok, next thing [10:12] if i enable composite when i move a window i get smooth movements [10:12] same thing when scrolling a webpage [10:12] if i disable it i get something like a slow refresh or something [10:13] well, composing is one technique of 2d hardware acceleration [10:13] usually it should be the opposite on problem cards...but mind i installed the latest ati drivers from the site so that the restricted drivers shows in use green, but enable unchecked. do i need to check it? [10:13] under ubuntu without effects i never experienced it [10:14] no idea, never had ATI [10:14] if i check enalbe it installs the fglrx package, should i do that? [10:14] it shouldn't hurt [10:14] ok, i will do that later [10:14] it will provide 3d acceleration [10:15] but i already have fglrx...or atleast i think because i installed the drivers from the ati page... [10:15] i will do that anyway...later though [10:15] let me think of other things [10:15] ugh, then there may be breakage [10:15] ah yes, i cant remember what to install for the dvd, mp3, wmv bla bla bla [10:16] i am doing ubuntu-restricted now, anything else? [10:16] something of adding medibuntu...but i cant remember [10:16] it's best to avoid installing from 3rd party sources, the packages from repository often have many ubuntu-specific bugs fixed [10:16] !medibuntu [10:16] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [10:17] Guest603: you want libdvdcss2 and w32codecs [10:17] do i need medibuntu for ubuntu-restricted-extras? i dont think so, because it is downloading now... [10:17] so once i install ubuntu-restricted and libdvdcss and w32codecs i'm set? [10:18] Guest603: I think so [10:18] perfect [10:18] i will do that [10:18] Guest603: not sure whether java is included in ubuntu-restricted [10:19] TheSheep, it is, it is downloading now [10:19] jsut another thing i jsut saw. to add medibuntu to the list i do sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list. is that final medibuntu.list correct? [10:20] shouldnt it be sources? [10:20] no, the directory is sources, the file extension is .list [10:20] so i will add that [10:20] can i do it while i'm installing ubuntu-restricted? [10:21] or should i finish that and then do it? [10:21] it dowanloads that firle and puts it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [10:21] you can dowload that file now, but to run update you need to wait until it finishes [10:21] oh, btw, i really appreciate you peoples help [10:22] thans [10:22] thanks [10:22] so are there any big differences between ubuntu and xubuntu, apart from missing gnome, that i should know of? [10:23] like something that might prevent me from doing what i used to do with ubuntu? [10:23] Guest603: thunar can't browse samba shares natively [10:23] (thunar is the file manager) [10:23] yes yes [10:23] that was the answer i was looking for. anything else? [10:23] there is no default music player, totem is used instead [10:24] you can install a music player of choice though [10:24] so when i click on an mp3 i get totem...correct? [10:24] openoffice is not installed by default, there is abiword and gnumeric instead, they are much simpler and can't open powerpoint presentations [10:24] Guest603: yes [10:25] totem isnt bad...and i noticed abiword, can it handle docx files? [10:25] yeah [10:25] and it... simplifies the .doc files it loads [10:25] but you can install openoffice [10:25] simplifies? [10:26] removes some formatting it cannot handle [10:26] openoffice natively doesnt do that? [10:26] if it does, it's to a much smaller degree, because openoffice can handle much more [10:27] ok, then i will get openoffice [10:27] another thing i just thought about [10:27] keyboard shortcuts like launching a terminal with the play button, can i do that? [10:27] terminal or some other app [10:27] yes, in settings manager->keyboard [10:27] i will look now [10:28] but you have to make sure your eyboard type is selected properly, default keyboard type doesn't have multimedia keys [10:28] s/type/layout [10:28] that would be keyboard map? like default or emacs? [10:29] no, the last tab, 'layout' [10:29] use x config is selected [10:29] and what does it say in the grayed out area? [10:29] generic 105 [10:29] us layout [10:30] you might need to change it [10:30] if your multimedia eys don't work [10:30] keys [10:30] i will add a shortcut and try the multimedia keys [10:30] if it doesnt work i will try another layout [10:31] and what is the terminal called? for theese kind of problems i would open the menu editor and look at it, but in xfce i cant do taht for applications... [10:33] xfce4-terminal [10:34] thanks [10:34] gotta run [10:34] i add the shortcut, then it asks me to push the desired shortcut. i press the multimedia and it closes the window, but it doesnt set the key [10:35] ok, thanks again for your help [11:07] everytime i "switch user" im auto logged back in after 5min. can i fix this? === tansom is now known as aptanet [11:37] Hello [11:38] quelqu'un sait il comment regle t'on un "dpkg: impossible de creer /var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type" ??? [11:39] ??? [11:40] does anybody knows how resolve this error "dpkg: impossible to create /var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i no file or directory " ??? [11:41] are you using sudo with the command? [11:45] sure [11:45] sudo apt get install .... [11:48] do you have a /var/lib/dpkg/updates folder/ - if noy make one - mines empty [11:48] s///? [11:49] yes i have one [11:49] its blue when i type ls /var/lib/dpkg [11:49] k [11:49] and inside there is the fuckin' tmp.i [11:49] but i cant "touch" it, "mv" it no more [11:50] who owns it? [11:50] how can i know ? [11:50] ls -l /var/lib/dpkg [11:51] also when i log out from one account im auto logged into previous account [11:51] ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/updates oops [11:51] root [11:52] whow !!!! [11:52] what the fuck [11:52] ??? [11:52] so sudo mv -v tmp.i tmp.i.bak should work? [11:52] look at this [11:52] you have to watch the language in here [11:52] $ ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/updates [11:53] -??????? ??? ??? ? ? ? ? tmp.i [11:53] it's not root that owns that... [11:54] who owns this file sos ? [11:54] try to remove the updates folder recursively - sudo rm -rfv /var/lib/dpkg/updates [11:55] Shark3: what did you do just before this happened? [11:55] TheSheep, I've just installed some packets [11:56] i cant delete this directory because it's not empty [11:56] the -rfv bit should cover that [11:57] i use -rfv [11:58] help me!!! [11:59] i go crazy [12:01] Shark3: try booting your system in recovery mode and running chkdsk [12:01] fsck [12:01] sorry [12:01] alright [12:01] how can i do that ? [12:01] ( run in recovery mode ? ) [12:02] press esc when it's booting, select recovery mode, when it boots type 'fsck /dev/hda1' or 'fsck /dev/sda1', depending which disk is your / [12:02] /dev/sda1 [12:02] esc [12:03] should i use other options ? [12:03] -p ? [12:04] what do i chose ? [12:04] resume, dpkg, rppt xfix? [12:04] :' === favafro is now known as favro === biabia is now known as [biabia] [16:08] xubuntu should install on a Pentium 3 running at 667 MHz and 256k of RAM, shouldn't it? [16:22] hello [16:22] Hi [16:22] RickZilla, no, it won't run on 256k of RAM [16:23] RickZilla, I'm not sure of many things that would :P [16:23] used to gnome here. In Nautilus > preference one can assign what appllication opens what files.. i don't see the corresponding in thunar. Can somoene please tell me how that is done in xfce, please? [16:24] Applications > Settings > Settings Manager, Preferred Applications [16:24] yes it will [16:24] thx, cody-somerville [16:24] B3ny0-, hmm? [16:25] he's probably typed it wrong, 256k RAM isn't even possible for his computer specs :) [16:25] cody-somerville, its not there. bear in mind that i am in xubuntu 7.10 [16:26] B3ny0-, Indeed :] [16:27] dick, http://cody.zapto.org/screenshots/preferred-applications.png [16:28] cody-somerville, ok, i found preferred applications but it only assigns which app will browse and email. I need to assign an application to play cd's and dvd's [16:28] Okay [16:28] You'll want to look at the volume manager [16:29] lets see [16:31] where is volume manager - sorry [16:31] and why would volume manager be the place to assing whether totem or vlc plays audio or avi? [16:32] "Removable drives and media" is the option you want to click [16:32] and where is that? [16:33] Take a look at the same screenshot :P [16:33] Yikes...sorry, how about 256M RAM? :-) [16:34] Yes, it'll run :) [16:36] So with that in mind...is Ubuntu even possible? Or should I just stick wtih xubuntu? [16:37] cody-somerville, yea, like i said unfortunately your settings manager and mine don't look the same. i'm running xubuntu 7.10 which is why Does this mean i cannot assing applications to play audio or movie files? What is happening here is that i cannot play dvd?? [16:38] RickZilla, Your call :) [16:38] RickZilla, I have a high tolerance for slow computers :P [16:38] hehe :p [16:40] also i installed rhythmbox which i see in applications menu but it won't load when i click on it [16:42] Try starting it from the command line [16:42] should give an error [16:44] cody-somerville, like totem /media/cdrom ? [16:44] how do i start it from command line? [16:44] or do you mean start rhythmbox from command line? [16:44] just type "rhythmbox" at the command line. [16:44] right [16:44] k [16:48] dick@ubuntu:~$ rhythmbox [16:48] Error re-scanning registry , child terminated by signal [16:48] Run 'rhythmbox --help' to see a full list of available co [16:51] so, and in the meantime; xubuntu 7.10 didn't come with the capacity to assign applications to media files? [16:51] by the way reason i'm on xubuntu 7.10 is coz i've installed the ppc on an iBook G3 500 mhz [16:51] hi [16:56] hi [16:56] cody-somerville, give up? [16:58] Recommend gibbon or drake for download? [16:58] dick, no just working :P [16:59] k :D [17:00] does someone knows, how can i put a marker on bad blocks, so that they wont be used anymore? [17:01] it is non-free, but I know spinrite will do it [17:03] have you an apt source? [17:04] aptitude dont find spinrite [17:05] slow-motion: it isn't a linux package... it boots its own OS and runs a complete scan of the hd http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm [17:05] and it dont harm my data? [17:06] i think i'm at a point where an atheist begins to pray that his computer starts [17:06] I have used it many many times. without loosing anything that wasn't already lost because of a failing drive [17:06] ok [17:06] i gave it a try [17:07] don't you have a backup of your data? [17:07] * slow-motion starts to whistle [17:08] i was thinking about it [17:08] say: does 7.10 come with a torrent downloader? and if not, which do you recommend i install? [17:08] dick, we're working developing version 8.10 [17:08] Will I be able to use the Livecd version of xubuntu on a Pentium 3 running at 667MHz and 256M RAM? [17:08] 7.10 is a faint memory :P [17:08] i don't see a torrent downloader in network and presume this does not come with xubuntu 7.10 by default [17:08] RickZilla, yes [17:08] i have to buy spinrite? [17:09] not-preinstalled... Do you want a gui or a command line? I like running bittornado in the background [17:09] zoredache, gui please [17:09] slow-motion: yeah... I said it wasn't free... :| [17:09] arrg [17:09] dick: azuerisus (sp) [17:10] azureus is too heavy... i'm on an iBook G3 500mhz [17:10] !torrent [17:10] Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P [17:11] did transmission exist in 7.10? === whaletales is now known as aptanet [17:13] thx guys === march is now known as billy_idle [17:18] so i be gone for a while [17:19] if we dont meet again, my computer is gone === aptanet is now known as whaletales === whaletales is now known as aptanet [17:59] how do you change system sounds in xubuntu [18:00] What do you mean by system sounds? [18:01] like enable different sounds for different actions and take away that system beep [18:01] frenzy42, you can Google on how to disable the system beep... I don't know about different sounds [18:01] Perhaps that's some accesibility setting [18:01] there are no "sounds for different actions" [18:02] xubuntu doesn't have sounds [18:02] xfce doesn't have sounds [18:02] TheSheep, isn't there some GTK setting to make a sound when browsing menus or something? That sounds like something it could have :P [18:02] i see [18:02] xfce is light-weight for a reason... Playing sounds each time I do something would waste cpu time [18:03] well then good! [18:03] frenzy42: you can disbale or change the system bell with xset b command [18:03] frenzy42: like on the bottom of this page: http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l19/lesson19k.html [18:03] frenzy42: you can put it in autostarted applications in your settings manager [18:04] ok [18:05] in command do i just type xset b off or terminal xset b off [18:06] frenzy42: I don't understand [18:09] when i set a auto started app [18:09] it asks me for a name, description and a command [18:10] xset b off [18:10] the latter makes totally no sense [18:11] ok [18:22] Uh... Where is the restore button from the trash? [18:23] Woo, right-click [18:24] And then? [18:24] Restore, I believe [18:25] 2http://bildr.no/view/255170 [18:25] http://bildr.no/view/255170 [18:25] Open with Nautilus? :P [18:25] What is Nautilus? [18:26] Woo, it's the GNOME file manager (like Thunar is Xfce's) - it's in your screenshot [18:26] Woo, are you sure that's a screenshot of Thunar? [18:26] Now I am taken to the contents of the folder [18:27] that is a screenshot from when I right click my folders in trash [18:27] Woo, can you show a screenshot of the whole screen? [18:27] ok [18:28] http://bildr.no/view/255174 [18:28] Woo, here's mine: http://bildr.no/view/255175 [18:29] Woo, ah, you're using Ubuntu [18:29] I'd ask the question in #ubuntu [18:29] #ubuntu is too crowded :) [18:30] Yeah but people use Xubuntu in here :P [18:30] i have yet to find a problem that xubuntu can't solve in ubuntu [18:30] Woo, at least Xubuntu can restore :P [18:30] Though I'm sure Ubuntu can too, somewhere [18:33] xubuntu didn't work as i would like it to when i tried it in the first place [18:33] can't remember what [18:34] Hehe, perhaps you ought to give it another try ;-) [18:35] nah, i'm really tired of this [shit] [18:35] *buntu [18:36] Tired as in been spending your whole day in it and needing some sleep, or tired as in not being used to it and going back to Windows or whatever? [18:36] Nautlius doesn't have restore from trash feature [18:36] that's really amazing :D [18:36] we're in 2008 [18:37] now i don't know what to do [18:37] cody-somerville, doesn't it? 0.o [18:37] I'm pretty sure it doesn't. [18:37] Oh, that's right, now I remember [18:37] Nautilus had a very backwards trash implementation [18:37] because i don't have enough space to move the 24gb files from the trash to either drive [18:38] I daresay restore is more important than Samba-sharing :P [18:38] thing is, because my disk somehow did not mount last night when i was happy to go to sleep thinking everything finally worked, it assigned /storage to the system drive [18:38] then all of a sudden my torrent client recognized that [18:39] and started downloading like 10-15gb over the night [18:39] xD [18:40] i just mounted the /storage disk back on, and did a force recheck [18:40] i noticed i only had 4gb available to the system drive now, and dismounted to delete everything in /storage downloaded over the night [18:41] i mounted it back on, and all the folders were gone [18:41] so now there isn't enough space to move the data back on either drive [18:43] I miss how disks are mounted in Windows [18:43] Which is...? [18:43] X:\ [18:44] oh hey... can i install the window managment system xubuntu have, log off gnome and on the xubuntu thing to restore my stuff? [18:44] Woo, I don't think so [18:44] I'm not sure how Nautilus stores stuff to trash, but I believe it's different from Thunar's method [18:53] what is the best distro for me anyyway? desktop edition, will run as server only (desktop is easier to config), easy to share in windows and auto update [18:54] What do you mean by desktop edition? [18:54] Until it sounds like Ubuntu is a good fit :P [18:55] Ubuntu: stops streaming after 1-2 secs often, awful configuration for windows share, lets me have one connection only to share files (ie marking a folder causes the transfer to crash), auto update doesn't work properly, add/remove doesn't work properly (crashes often), doesn't start partitioning easily... [18:57] Perhaps Debian is better for you [18:57] I said user friendly :P [18:57] and desktop edition [18:57] Debian is quite easy to use, isn't it? [18:57] Or perhaps Fedora? [18:57] Note: I've only used Ubuntu and Xubuntu [18:57] Just look at the introduction site for Debian [18:58] it's not indended for average joe [18:59] also ubuntu didn't want to mount my external drive today... yay [18:59] Well, I suppose you could give Fedora a try then [19:00] No, I have Ubuntu installed now. I find it best not to have further downtime :) [19:00] And I have confidence my problems will be fixed within 10 years in open source spirit :P [19:01] ^.^ [19:01] Although I haven't found anyone with the same problems as me [19:02] Yeah it's odd indeed [19:02] You might want to report problems at bugs.ubuntu.com and see if they can help you there [19:02] Sounds like too much typing :P [19:03] :P [19:03] It might help other people ^.^ [19:04] I was going to submit a bug for Pidgin [19:04] Great :) [19:04] but there were so many clicks, a long submission and too much hassle [19:04] I did in the end, and it would seem no one wanted what I wanted [19:04] I want to select where I store the chatlogs [19:05] *sigh* :P [19:05] Isn't that possible? [19:05]