[00:17] <R1cochet> is there a chm reader for xubuntu hardy amd64?
[00:17] <R1cochet> the firefox addon wont work
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> !find chm
[00:39] <R1cochet> well chmsee didnt work either but chm viewer does
[00:39] <R1cochet> ty
[02:59] <Ultraputz> anyone know whether it is possible to style xfce's panels the way the window borders can be styled?
[03:12] <favro> have a goggle for gtkrc-2.0 - you can set one up in your home folder to style the panel
[03:14] <favro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/47056/ - is my .gtkrc-2.0 file
[03:32] <Ultraputz> eep. battery failed. question: is it possible to style the borders of panels the way window borders can be styled in xfce?
[03:46] <Odd-rationale> Ultraputz: while you were gone, favro said the following: favro | have a goggle for gtkrc-2.0 - you can set one up in your home folder to style the panel
[03:47] <Odd-rationale> favro | http://paste.ubuntu.com/47056/ - is my .gtkrc-2.0 file
[03:47] <Ultraputz> thank you!
[03:47] <Ultraputz> and it is via this mechanism that you can style the edges of the window?
[03:48] <Ultraputz> like, widget_class "*Panel*" style "<thing>" ?
[03:49] <Ultraputz> i'm basically wanting to round the edges of the panels, as i don't use them edge-to-edge, but rather foating here and there.
[03:51] <Odd-rationale> Ultraputz: you mean like this? http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/
[03:52] <Ultraputz> not exactly, though that's also useful information
[03:52] <Ultraputz> i'm referring to the borders -- the box that tha panel is in
[03:52] <Ultraputz> the borders of the panel object
[03:53] <Ultraputz> not the background image of the panel itself
[03:53] <Ultraputz> you can change the borders of windows in xfce, which is separate from the interface theme (gtk)
[03:53] <Ultraputz> i was wondering if htere was a way to apply a window border style other than plain box to the panels also
[03:59] <cody-somerville> yup
[05:09] <Odd-rationale> wb, zoredache
[05:23] <Ultraputz> back
[06:51] <Geekthras> Well Ubuntu (Xubuntu in fact, though that should make no difference) froze up recently and upon startup dropped to a grub shell of some kind. Poking around, I found it referencing /ubuntu/disks/something, so I booted up Windows and checked this mythical C:/ubuntu/disks/whatever when - lo and behold - I found it was corrupted and unreadable. Do I basically get to reinstall ubuntu? Or is there...
[06:51] <Geekthras> ...any way at all to fix this?
[06:51] <Geekthras> (reinstalling ubuntu's not a big issue for me, just the data would be nice)
[06:56] <Myrtti> Geekthras: so you're using wubi installation, correct?
[08:12] <mandje> hi.  i lost the bars on the desktop. :(   (wubi install)  how can you get them back again?
[08:13] <cody-somerville> Press alt + f2
[08:13] <cody-somerville> type in "xfce4-panel" and hit enter
[08:13] <mandje> wow!
[08:14] <mandje> you spread magick cody-somerville  ;)
[08:14]  * cody-somerville tries :]
[08:16] <mandje> and i'll make sure i can find this one if it happens again..   look like its some nasty punishment after booting back from windows.  ;)
[08:17] <cody-somerville> Just make sure to logout correctly and it'll save your session
[08:18] <mandje> ok tnx cody-somerville.
[09:55] <Guest603> hello. i just removed ubuntu and installed xubuntu. isthere an exstensive config like gconf for ubuntu?
[09:58] <favro> most gets done through the settings manager from the menu
[09:59] <Guest603> well i cant find anything regarding power options. like what cpu frequenzy and what brightness
[10:00] <favro> I've never seen anything like that - but then I've never looked for it :)
[10:01] <favro> what app did you use in gnome for that ? - just gconf?
[10:01] <Guest603> yes, gcong, then edited gnome-power
[10:02] <Guest603> favro, i used to use gnome, now i did a format and installed xubuntu, so i'm triing to reset everithing up.
[10:02] <favro> yeh I got that - I just don't use any apps like that - someone who does might chime in...
[10:03] <Guest603> yes i understand. i havent googled it yet, probably i will find what i need
[10:03] <Guest603> can you tell me how to disable the dan sistem beep also? it beeps very loud and it bothers me
[10:03] <Guest603> scares me also
[10:04] <TheSheep> Guest603: there are panel plugins for managing cpu speed and screen brightness, but you can also install gnome-power-manager
[10:05] <TheSheep> Guest603: I change the beep sound with: xset b 80 1200 5
[10:05] <Guest603> TheSheep, the only panel plugin i found preinstalled was cpu governor, but it just lets me choose what to use, not what to do when ac is connected or on battery
[10:05] <TheSheep> Guest603: just put it as a command in autostarted applications
[10:05] <TheSheep> Guest603: for that you need power manager
[10:05] <Guest603> TheSheep, does it disable it completely?
[10:05] <TheSheep> Guest603: put zeroes there to disable it completely
[10:06] <Guest603> xset b 0 0 0?
[10:06] <TheSheep> yesh
[10:06] <TheSheep> yeah
[10:06] <Guest603> k ,i will try
[10:06] <Guest603> perfect
[10:06] <Guest603> what do those numbers mean?
[10:07] <Guest603> and how do i change the autostarted? it used to be sessions...
[10:09] <favro> that's in the settings manager from applications menu
[10:10] <TheSheep> Guest603: The first number is for volume, the second pitch and the third duration of the beep.
[10:10] <Guest603> sessions and startup? i dont see anything usefull there...
[10:10] <TheSheep> Guest603: "autostarted applications"
[10:10] <TheSheep> Guest603: in "settings amanager"
[10:11] <TheSheep> Guest603: the very first icon from top left
[10:11] <Guest603> oh my god
[10:11] <Guest603> you are right...sorry, i dont know why my brain just didnt read that
[10:11] <TheSheep> :)
[10:11] <TheSheep> it takes a while to get rid of old habits
[10:12] <Guest603> yes i know...
[10:12] <Guest603> ok, next thing
[10:12] <Guest603> if i enable composite when i move a window i get smooth movements
[10:12] <Guest603> same thing when scrolling a webpage
[10:12] <Guest603> if i disable it i get something like a slow refresh or something
[10:13] <TheSheep> well, composing is one technique of 2d hardware acceleration
[10:13] <Guest603> usually it should be the opposite on problem cards...but mind i installed the latest ati drivers from the site so that the restricted drivers shows in use green, but enable unchecked. do i need to check it?
[10:13] <Guest603> under ubuntu without effects i never experienced it
[10:14] <TheSheep> no idea, never had ATI
[10:14] <Guest603> if i check enalbe it installs the fglrx package, should i do that?
[10:14] <TheSheep> it shouldn't hurt
[10:14] <Guest603> ok, i will do that later
[10:14] <TheSheep> it will provide 3d acceleration
[10:15] <Guest603> but i already have fglrx...or atleast i think because i installed the drivers from the ati page...
[10:15] <Guest603> i will do that anyway...later though
[10:15] <Guest603> let me think of other things
[10:15] <TheSheep> ugh, then there may be breakage
[10:15] <Guest603> ah yes, i cant remember what to install for the dvd, mp3, wmv bla bla bla
[10:16] <Guest603> i am doing ubuntu-restricted now, anything else?
[10:16] <Guest603> something of adding medibuntu...but i cant remember
[10:16] <TheSheep> it's best to avoid installing from 3rd party sources, the packages from repository often have many ubuntu-specific bugs fixed
[10:16] <TheSheep> !medibuntu
[10:17] <TheSheep> Guest603: you want libdvdcss2 and w32codecs
[10:17] <Guest603> do i need medibuntu for ubuntu-restricted-extras? i dont think so, because it is downloading now...
[10:17] <Guest603> so once i install ubuntu-restricted and libdvdcss and w32codecs i'm set?
[10:18] <TheSheep> Guest603: I think so
[10:18] <Guest603> perfect
[10:18] <Guest603> i will do that
[10:18] <TheSheep> Guest603: not sure whether java is included in ubuntu-restricted
[10:19] <Guest603> TheSheep, it is, it is downloading now
[10:19] <Guest603> jsut another thing i jsut saw. to add medibuntu to the list i do sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list. is that final medibuntu.list correct?
[10:20] <Guest603> shouldnt it be sources?
[10:20] <TheSheep> no, the directory is sources, the file extension is .list
[10:20] <Guest603> so i will add that
[10:20] <Guest603> can i do it while i'm installing ubuntu-restricted?
[10:21] <Guest603> or should i finish that and then do it?
[10:21] <TheSheep> it dowanloads that firle and puts it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[10:21] <TheSheep> you can dowload that file now, but to run update you need to wait until it finishes
[10:21] <Guest603> oh, btw, i really appreciate you peoples help
[10:22] <TheSheep> thans
[10:22] <TheSheep> thanks
[10:22] <Guest603> so are there any big differences between ubuntu and xubuntu, apart from missing gnome, that i should know of?
[10:23] <Guest603> like something that might prevent me from doing what i used to do with ubuntu?
[10:23] <TheSheep> Guest603: thunar can't browse samba shares natively
[10:23] <TheSheep> (thunar is the file manager)
[10:23] <Guest603> yes yes
[10:23] <Guest603> that was the answer i was looking for. anything else?
[10:23] <TheSheep> there is no default music player, totem is used instead
[10:24] <TheSheep> you can install a music player of choice though
[10:24] <Guest603> so when i click on an mp3 i get totem...correct?
[10:24] <TheSheep> openoffice is not installed by default, there is abiword and gnumeric instead, they are much simpler and can't open powerpoint presentations
[10:24] <TheSheep> Guest603: yes
[10:25] <Guest603> totem isnt bad...and i noticed abiword, can it handle docx files?
[10:25] <TheSheep> yeah
[10:25] <TheSheep> and it... simplifies the .doc files it loads
[10:25] <TheSheep> but you can install openoffice
[10:25] <Guest603> simplifies?
[10:26] <TheSheep> removes some formatting it cannot handle
[10:26] <Guest603> openoffice natively doesnt do that?
[10:26] <TheSheep> if it does, it's to a much smaller degree, because openoffice can handle much more
[10:27] <Guest603> ok, then i will get openoffice
[10:27] <Guest603> another thing i just thought about
[10:27] <Guest603> keyboard shortcuts like launching a terminal with the play button, can i do that?
[10:27] <Guest603> terminal or some other app
[10:27] <TheSheep> yes, in settings manager->keyboard
[10:27] <Guest603> i will look now
[10:28] <TheSheep> but you have to make sure your eyboard type is selected properly, default keyboard type doesn't have multimedia keys
[10:28] <TheSheep> s/type/layout
[10:28] <Guest603> that would be keyboard map? like default or emacs?
[10:29] <TheSheep> no, the last tab, 'layout'
[10:29] <Guest603> use x config is selected
[10:29] <TheSheep> and what does it say in the grayed out area?
[10:29] <Guest603> generic 105
[10:29] <Guest603> us layout
[10:30] <TheSheep> you might need to change it
[10:30] <TheSheep> if your multimedia eys don't work
[10:30] <TheSheep> keys
[10:30] <Guest603> i will add a shortcut and try the multimedia keys
[10:30] <Guest603> if it doesnt work i will try another layout
[10:31] <Guest603> and what is the terminal called? for theese kind of problems i would open the menu editor and look at it, but in xfce i cant do taht for applications...
[10:33] <TheSheep> xfce4-terminal
[10:34] <Guest603> thanks
[10:34] <TheSheep> gotta run
[10:34] <Guest603> i add the shortcut, then it asks me to push the desired shortcut. i press the multimedia and it closes the window, but it doesnt set the key
[10:35] <Guest603> ok, thanks again for your help
[11:07] <R1cochet> everytime i "switch user" im auto logged back in after 5min. can i fix this?
[11:37] <Shark3> Hello
[11:38] <Shark3> quelqu'un sait il comment regle t'on un "dpkg: impossible de creer  /var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type" ???
[11:39] <Shark3> ???
[11:40] <Shark3> does anybody knows how resolve this error "dpkg: impossible to create  /var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i no file or directory " ???
[11:41] <favro> are you using sudo with the command?
[11:45] <Shark3> sure
[11:45] <Shark3> sudo apt get install ....
[11:48] <favro> do you have a /var/lib/dpkg/updates folder/ - if noy make one - mines empty
[11:48] <favro> s///?
[11:49] <Shark3> yes i have one
[11:49] <Shark3> its blue when i type ls /var/lib/dpkg
[11:49] <favro> k
[11:49] <Shark3> and inside there is the fuckin' tmp.i
[11:49] <Shark3> but i cant "touch" it, "mv" it no more
[11:50] <favro> who owns it?
[11:50] <Shark3> how can i know ?
[11:50] <favro> ls -l /var/lib/dpkg
[11:51] <R1cochet> also when i log out from one account im auto logged into previous account
[11:51] <favro> ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/updates oops
[11:51] <Shark3> root
[11:52] <Shark3> whow !!!!
[11:52] <Shark3> what the fuck
[11:52] <Shark3> ???
[11:52] <favro> so sudo mv -v tmp.i tmp.i.bak should work?
[11:52] <Shark3> look at this
[11:52] <favro> you have to watch the language in here
[11:52] <Shark3> $ ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/updates
[11:53] <Shark3> -??????? ??? ??? ? ? ?            ? tmp.i
[11:53] <favro> it's not root that owns that...
[11:54] <Shark3> who owns this file sos ?
[11:54] <favro> try to remove the updates folder recursively - sudo rm -rfv /var/lib/dpkg/updates
[11:55] <TheSheep> Shark3: what did you do just before this happened?
[11:55] <Shark3> TheSheep, I've just installed some packets
[11:56] <Shark3> i cant delete this directory because it's not empty
[11:56] <favro> the -rfv bit should cover that
[11:57] <Shark3> i use -rfv
[11:58] <Shark3> help me!!!
[11:59] <Shark3> i go crazy
[12:01] <TheSheep> Shark3: try booting your system in recovery mode and running chkdsk
[12:01] <TheSheep> fsck
[12:01] <TheSheep> sorry
[12:01] <Shark3> alright
[12:01] <Shark3> how can i do that ?
[12:01] <Shark3> ( run in recovery mode ? )
[12:02] <TheSheep> press esc when it's booting, select recovery mode, when it boots type  'fsck /dev/hda1' or 'fsck /dev/sda1', depending which disk is your /
[12:02] <Shark3> /dev/sda1
[12:02] <Shark3> esc
[12:03] <Shark3> should i use other options ?
[12:03] <Shark3> -p ?
[12:04] <Shark3> what do i chose ?
[12:04] <Shark3> resume, dpkg, rppt xfix?
[12:04] <Shark3> :'
[16:08] <RickZilla> xubuntu should install on a Pentium 3 running at 667 MHz and 256k of RAM, shouldn't it?
[16:22] <dick> hello
[16:22] <cody-somerville> Hi
[16:22] <cody-somerville> RickZilla, no, it won't run on 256k of RAM
[16:23] <cody-somerville> RickZilla, I'm not sure of many things that would :P
[16:23] <dick> used to gnome here. In Nautilus > preference one can assign what appllication opens what files.. i don't see the corresponding in thunar. Can somoene please tell me how that is done in xfce, please?
[16:24] <cody-somerville> Applications > Settings > Settings Manager, Preferred Applications
[16:24] <B3ny0-> yes it will
[16:24] <dick> thx, cody-somerville
[16:24] <cody-somerville> B3ny0-, hmm?
[16:25] <B3ny0-> he's probably typed it wrong, 256k RAM isn't even possible for his computer specs :)
[16:25] <dick> cody-somerville, its not there. bear in mind that i am in xubuntu 7.10
[16:26] <cody-somerville> B3ny0-, Indeed :]
[16:27] <cody-somerville> dick, http://cody.zapto.org/screenshots/preferred-applications.png
[16:28] <dick> cody-somerville, ok, i found preferred applications but it only assigns which app will browse and email. I need to assign an application to play cd's and dvd's
[16:28] <cody-somerville> Okay
[16:28] <cody-somerville> You'll want to look at the volume manager
[16:29] <dick> lets see
[16:31] <dick> where is volume manager - sorry
[16:31] <dick> and why would volume manager be the place to assing whether totem or vlc plays audio or avi?
[16:32] <cody-somerville> "Removable drives and media" is the option you want to click
[16:32] <dick> and where is that?
[16:33] <cody-somerville> Take a look at the same screenshot :P
[16:33] <RickZilla> Yikes...sorry, how about 256M RAM?  :-)
[16:34] <cody-somerville> Yes, it'll run :)
[16:36] <RickZilla> So with that in mind...is Ubuntu even possible?  Or should I just stick wtih xubuntu?
[16:37] <dick> cody-somerville, yea, like i said unfortunately your settings manager and mine don't look the same. i'm running xubuntu 7.10 which is why Does this mean i cannot assing applications to play audio or movie files? What is happening here is that i cannot play dvd??
[16:38] <cody-somerville> RickZilla, Your call :)
[16:38] <cody-somerville> RickZilla, I have a high tolerance for slow computers :P
[16:38] <dick> hehe :p
[16:40] <dick> also i installed rhythmbox which i see in applications menu but it won't load when i click on it
[16:42] <cody-somerville> Try starting it from the command line
[16:42] <cody-somerville> should give an error
[16:44] <dick> cody-somerville, like totem /media/cdrom ?
[16:44] <dick> how do i start it from command line?
[16:44] <dick> or do you mean start rhythmbox from command line?
[16:44] <cody-somerville> just type "rhythmbox" at the command line.
[16:44] <cody-somerville> right
[16:44] <dick> k
[16:48] <dick> dick@ubuntu:~$ rhythmbox
[16:48] <dick> Error re-scanning registry , child terminated by signal
[16:48] <dick> Run 'rhythmbox --help' to see a full list of available co
[16:51] <dick> so, and in the meantime; xubuntu 7.10 didn't come with the capacity to assign applications to media files?
[16:51] <dick> by the way reason i'm on xubuntu 7.10 is coz i've installed the ppc on an iBook G3 500 mhz
[16:51] <slow-motion> hi
[16:56] <dick> hi
[16:56] <dick> cody-somerville, give up?
[16:58] <RickZilla> Recommend gibbon or drake for download?
[16:58] <cody-somerville> dick, no just working :P
[16:59] <dick> k :D
[17:00] <slow-motion> does someone knows, how can i put a marker on bad blocks, so that they wont be used anymore?
[17:01] <zoredache> it is non-free, but I know spinrite will do it
[17:03] <slow-motion> have you an apt source?
[17:04] <slow-motion> aptitude dont find spinrite
[17:05] <zoredache> slow-motion: it isn't a linux package...  it boots its own OS and runs a complete scan of the hd http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm
[17:05] <slow-motion> and it dont harm my data?
[17:06] <slow-motion> i think i'm at a point where an atheist begins to pray that his computer starts
[17:06] <zoredache> I have used it many many times. without loosing anything that wasn't already lost because of a failing drive
[17:06] <slow-motion> ok
[17:06] <slow-motion> i gave it a try
[17:07] <zoredache> don't you have a backup of your data?
[17:07]  * slow-motion starts to whistle
[17:08] <slow-motion> i was thinking about it
[17:08] <dick> say: does 7.10 come with a torrent downloader? and if not, which do you recommend i install?
[17:08] <cody-somerville> dick, we're working developing version 8.10
[17:08] <RickZilla> Will I be able to use the Livecd version of xubuntu on a Pentium 3 running at 667MHz and 256M RAM?
[17:08] <cody-somerville> 7.10 is a faint memory :P
[17:08] <dick> i don't see a torrent downloader in network and presume this does not come with xubuntu 7.10 by default
[17:08] <cody-somerville> RickZilla, yes
[17:08] <slow-motion> i have to buy spinrite?
[17:09] <zoredache> not-preinstalled...  Do you want a gui or a command line?  I like running bittornado in the background
[17:09] <dick> zoredache, gui please
[17:09] <zoredache> slow-motion: yeah... I said it wasn't free... :|
[17:09] <slow-motion> arrg
[17:09] <zoredache> dick: azuerisus (sp)
[17:10] <dick> azureus is too heavy... i'm on an iBook G3 500mhz
[17:10] <zoredache> !torrent
[17:11] <dick> did transmission exist in 7.10?
[17:13] <dick> thx guys
[17:18] <slow-motion> so i be gone for a while
[17:19] <slow-motion> if we dont meet again, my computer is gone
[17:59] <frenzy42> how do you change system sounds in xubuntu
[18:00] <vinnl> What do you mean by system sounds?
[18:01] <frenzy42> like enable different sounds for different actions and take away that system beep
[18:01] <vinnl> frenzy42, you can Google on how to disable the system beep... I don't know about different sounds
[18:01] <vinnl> Perhaps that's some accesibility setting
[18:01] <TheSheep> there are no "sounds for different actions"
[18:02] <TheSheep> xubuntu doesn't have sounds
[18:02] <TheSheep> xfce doesn't have sounds
[18:02] <vinnl> TheSheep, isn't there some GTK setting to make a sound when browsing menus or something? That sounds like something it could have :P
[18:02] <frenzy42> i see
[18:02] <zoredache> xfce is light-weight for a reason...  Playing sounds each time I do something would waste cpu time
[18:03] <frenzy42> well then good!
[18:03] <TheSheep> frenzy42: you can disbale or change the system bell with xset b command
[18:03] <TheSheep> frenzy42: like on the bottom of this page: http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l19/lesson19k.html
[18:03] <TheSheep> frenzy42: you can put it in autostarted applications in your settings manager
[18:04] <frenzy42> ok
[18:05] <frenzy42> in command do i just type xset b off or terminal xset b off
[18:06] <TheSheep> frenzy42: I don't understand
[18:09] <frenzy42> when i set a auto started app
[18:09] <frenzy42> it asks me for a name, description and a command
[18:10] <TheSheep> xset b off
[18:10] <TheSheep> the latter makes totally no sense
[18:11] <frenzy42> ok
[18:22] <Woo> Uh... Where is the restore button from the trash?
[18:23] <vinnl> Woo, right-click
[18:24] <Woo> And then?
[18:24] <vinnl> Restore, I believe
[18:25] <Woo> 2http://bildr.no/view/255170
[18:25] <Woo> http://bildr.no/view/255170
[18:25] <vinnl> Open with Nautilus? :P
[18:25] <Woo> What is Nautilus?
[18:26] <vinnl> Woo, it's the GNOME file manager (like Thunar is Xfce's) - it's in your screenshot
[18:26] <vinnl> Woo, are you sure that's a screenshot of Thunar?
[18:26] <Woo> Now I am taken to the contents of the folder
[18:27] <Woo> that is a screenshot from when I right click my folders in trash
[18:27] <vinnl> Woo, can you show a screenshot of the whole screen?
[18:27] <Woo> ok
[18:28] <Woo> http://bildr.no/view/255174
[18:28] <vinnl> Woo, here's mine: http://bildr.no/view/255175
[18:29] <vinnl> Woo, ah, you're using Ubuntu
[18:29] <vinnl> I'd ask the question in #ubuntu
[18:29] <Woo> #ubuntu is too crowded :)
[18:30] <vinnl> Yeah but people use Xubuntu in here :P
[18:30] <Woo> i have yet to find a problem that xubuntu can't solve in ubuntu
[18:30] <vinnl> Woo, at least Xubuntu can restore :P
[18:30] <vinnl> Though I'm sure Ubuntu can too, somewhere
[18:33] <Woo> xubuntu didn't work as i would like it to when i tried it in the first place
[18:33] <Woo> can't remember what
[18:34] <vinnl> Hehe, perhaps you ought to give it another try ;-)
[18:35] <Woo> nah, i'm really tired of this [shit]
[18:35] <Woo> *buntu
[18:36] <vinnl> Tired as in been spending your whole day in it and needing some sleep, or tired as in not being used to it and going back to Windows or whatever?
[18:36] <cody-somerville> Nautlius doesn't have restore from trash feature
[18:36] <Woo> that's really amazing :D
[18:36] <Woo> we're in 2008
[18:37] <Woo> now i don't know what to do
[18:37] <vinnl> cody-somerville, doesn't it? 0.o
[18:37] <cody-somerville> I'm pretty sure it doesn't.
[18:37] <vinnl> Oh, that's right, now I remember
[18:37] <vinnl> Nautilus had a very backwards trash implementation
[18:37] <Woo> because i don't have enough space to move the 24gb files from the trash to either drive
[18:38] <vinnl> I daresay restore is more important than Samba-sharing :P
[18:38] <Woo> thing is, because my disk somehow did not mount last night when i was happy to go to sleep thinking everything finally worked, it assigned /storage to the system drive
[18:38] <Woo> then all of a sudden my torrent client recognized that
[18:39] <Woo> and started downloading like 10-15gb over the night
[18:39] <vinnl> xD
[18:40] <Woo> i just mounted the /storage disk back on, and did a force recheck
[18:40] <Woo> i noticed i only had 4gb available to the system drive now, and dismounted to delete everything in /storage downloaded over the night
[18:41] <Woo> i mounted it back on, and all the folders were gone
[18:41] <Woo> so now there isn't enough space to move the data back on either drive
[18:43] <Woo> I miss how disks are mounted in Windows
[18:43] <vinnl> Which is...?
[18:43] <Woo> X:\
[18:44] <Woo> oh hey... can i install the window managment system xubuntu have, log off gnome and on the xubuntu thing to restore my stuff?
[18:44] <vinnl> Woo, I don't think so
[18:44] <vinnl> I'm not sure how Nautilus stores stuff to trash, but I believe it's different from Thunar's method
[18:53] <Woo> what is the best distro for me anyyway? desktop edition, will run as server only (desktop is easier to config), easy to share in windows and auto update
[18:54] <vinnl> What do you mean by desktop edition?
[18:54] <vinnl> Until it sounds like Ubuntu is a good fit :P
[18:55] <Woo> Ubuntu: stops streaming after 1-2 secs often, awful configuration for windows share, lets me have one connection only to share files (ie marking a folder causes the transfer to crash), auto update doesn't work properly, add/remove doesn't work properly (crashes often), doesn't start partitioning easily...
[18:57] <vinnl> Perhaps Debian is better for you
[18:57] <Woo> I said user friendly :P
[18:57] <Woo> and desktop edition
[18:57] <vinnl> Debian is quite easy to use, isn't it?
[18:57] <vinnl> Or perhaps Fedora?
[18:57] <vinnl> Note: I've only used Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[18:57] <Woo> Just look at the introduction site for Debian
[18:58] <Woo> it's not indended for average joe
[18:59] <Woo> also ubuntu didn't want to mount my external drive today... yay
[18:59] <vinnl> Well, I suppose you could give Fedora a try then
[19:00] <Woo> No, I have Ubuntu installed now. I find it best not to have further downtime :)
[19:00] <Woo> And I have confidence my problems will be fixed within 10 years in open source spirit :P
[19:01] <vinnl> ^.^
[19:01] <Woo> Although I haven't found anyone with the same problems as me
[19:02] <vinnl> Yeah it's odd indeed
[19:02] <vinnl> You might want to report problems at bugs.ubuntu.com and see if they can help you there
[19:02] <Woo> Sounds like too much typing :P
[19:03] <vinnl> :P
[19:03] <vinnl> It might help other people ^.^
[19:04] <Woo> I was going to submit a bug for Pidgin
[19:04] <vinnl> Great :)
[19:04] <Woo> but there were so many clicks, a long submission and too much hassle
[19:04] <Woo> I did in the end, and it would seem no one wanted what I wanted
[19:04] <Woo> I want to select where I store the chatlogs
[19:05] <vinnl> *sigh* :P
[19:05] <vinnl> Isn't that possible?
[19:05] <Woo> I don't think so, might be a year ago since I tried
[19:05] <Woo> Can you check?
[19:06] <vinnl> Sure
[19:06] <Woo> Also a *buntu bug, my friends laptop died after he rebooted from Kubuntu :D
[19:06] <Woo> It killed his GPU somehow
[19:07] <vinnl> You sure it wasn't just at the end of its lifetime? :)
[19:09] <vinnl> Woo, nope, I don't see that option
[19:10] <vinnl> You could try a link from Pidgin's log folder to wherever you want them :P
[19:15] <Woo> It was under a year old, and worked fine before that
[19:16] <Woo> I want it since I keep my logs for years, I don't keep my OS installations for years
[19:17] <Woo> Anyway, I'll go play some COD4 now
[19:17] <Woo> Oh yeah, HAHA, look who can't :P
[19:17] <Woo> with good FPS, good support etc
[19:19] <B3ny0-> I find it pretty hard to believe that kubuntu killed the gpu
[19:19] <B3ny0-> probably a manufacturing fault
[19:19] <B3ny0-> was it perhaps an nvidia chipset? they had lots of problems with their mobile gpus, especially 8 and 9-series of geforce
[21:58] <zoredache> is there a way to prevent an application fo taking the focus?  (pidgin)
[22:01] <DFlame> you could try enabling "hide new conversation windows" in pidgin interface settings. try changing it to always
[22:04] <zoredache> DFlame: that is a better... still not perfect though...
[22:04] <DFlame> best i can do for now
[22:04] <DFlame> ooh
[22:05] <DFlame> try applications > settings manager > Window Manager...
[22:05] <DFlame> uncheck "automatically give focus to newly created windows"
[22:08] <zoredache> I like that behavior.... I think I found what I need though
[22:08] <DFlame> good stuff
[22:09] <zoredache> the coversation windows hiding when combined with the libnotify pidgin plugin may give me the behavior I want
[22:36] <Ben_Cs> hello
[22:37] <Ben_Cs> where's a gobject-2.0    ?
[22:39] <zoredache> ?
[22:39] <zoredache> !info gobj2
[22:40] <zoredache> !info gob2
[22:42] <Ben_Cs> hello
[22:45] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: in glib, I think
[22:46] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gobject/stable/
[22:46] <Ben_Cs> thanks