| BBLake | anyone here? | 00:07 |
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| BBLake | question about ubuntu studio | 00:07 |
| Goosemoose | what do I need in the preseed.cfg file so edubuntu is installed? I keep getting a terminal | 00:15 |
| Goosemoose | even though i have: tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard, edubuntu-desktop | 00:15 |
| snaphappi | hi all, I'm working on this problem with my ubuntu 8.04.1 ltsp install. it's the "ipconfig: eth0: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device" bug, with the Marvell/Sky2 eth controller. if I put in a 2nd Realtek PCI eth controller, the client boots fine. but I can't get the client to PXEboot from the Realtek. can anyone here help? | 00:17 |
| snaphappi | <ogra> responseded: snaphappi, might be that the sky2 module is missing from initramfs's netboot code | 00:17 |
| snaphappi | <ogra> snaphappi, might be that the sky2 module is missing from initramfs's netboot code | 00:18 |
| snaphappi | But my ltsp server boots fine, and from the server I always type these commands to update the ltsp-image: | 00:19 |
| snaphappi | 8 sudo ltsp-update-kernels | 00:19 |
| snaphappi | 9 sudo ltsp-update-image | 00:19 |
| snaphappi | 10 sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys | 00:19 |
| snaphappi | plus I have this file: /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/net/sky2.ko | 00:22 |
| snaphappi | anyone here who can help me with ltsp client boot? | 01:56 |
| RickZilla | Ok, just so I get this straight...d/l ubuntu, install it, then d/l the edubuntu addition and install that. Do I understand that correctly? | 03:56 |
| sbalneav | Evening all | 04:54 |
| RickZilla | Hey sbalneav | 05:07 |
| sbalneav | Hello RickZilla | 05:16 |
| RickZilla | are you an edubuntu user? | 05:16 |
| sbalneav | I'm a user and developer. | 05:16 |
| RickZilla | Just started using ubuntu this week, I'd like to see what edubuntu is all about | 05:18 |
| sbalneav | It's a collection of education applications in addition to all the regular great stuff in Ubuntu. | 05:20 |
| sbalneav | Plus, thin client computing. That's the bit I work on. | 05:20 |
| RickZilla | I'd like to see what our licensing budget is for this year...it'd be nice if our district could save some bucks on that by switching to open source | 05:21 |
| sbalneav | Hard to beat free :) | 05:23 |
| RickZilla | Yep...I've been using GIMP and Wordpress for quite a while, I would consider those high quality software | 05:24 |
| RickZilla | Are you an educator as well? | 05:25 |
| sbalneav | No, I'm a systems administrator for Legal Aid Manitoba | 05:27 |
| sbalneav | But I've been involved with Linux for years and years | 05:27 |
| RickZilla | That would be a cool gig...I've decided in my next life I'd like to be an educational technology specialist :-) | 05:29 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 15:26 |
| LaserJock | ogra: looks like I managed to get edubuntu-addon-meta using seeds correctly | 16:39 |
| * ogra applauds | 16:39 | |
| LaserJock | ogra: I added .desktop file for edubuntu-addon-{kde,youth,science} as well | 16:40 |
| LaserJock | so in the installer they show up in the "Edubuntu desktop" category, just to give people a GUI option for getting those | 16:40 |
| ogra | cool | 16:40 |
| LaserJock | used your popcon grabber to add popcon data in | 16:41 |
| ogra | heh | 16:41 |
| ogra | popcon is so moot :) | 16:41 |
| LaserJock | so with that, rasmol, denemo, kverbos, kvoctrain, and keduca are gone | 16:42 |
| LaserJock | and marble, parley, step, and kalgebra are in | 16:42 |
| ogra | great | 16:42 |
| LaserJock | I'm not going to be on IRC much as I really am hitting deadlines with my PhD | 16:43 |
| sbalneav | You won't be around tomorrow, then? | 16:43 |
| LaserJock | but I have a couple more tweaks to do to get the meta packages the way I want them | 16:43 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: I'm gonna try to pop in but at this point I'm not sure how long I'll be around | 16:43 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: but I should be fairly responsive to email (including some bugmail) | 16:43 |
| * ogra is travelling tomorrom | 16:43 | |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: No problem, I'll handle things tomorrow. | 16:44 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: Can you change the title of the irc? | 16:45 |
| sbalneav | It would be helpful if you could just pop in for 2 seconds and note that it's triage day. | 16:45 |
| LaserJock | for the metapackages what I have left are 1) use Recommends for edubuntu-desktop 2) make sure the addon-installer menu is good (missing icons and menu items in the wrong place) and 3) make sure the KDE apps have everything they need to run properly in Gnome | 16:45 |
| === LaserJock changed the topic of #edubuntu to: LTSP Triage Day: Sept. 17th, see http://tinyurl.com/55pfcj || Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | 8.04 (hardy heron) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download grab it while its hot !!! | ||
| LaserJock | sbalneav: ^^ | 17:04 |
| === ogra changed the topic of #edubuntu to: LTSP Triage Day: Sept. 17th, see http://tinyurl.com/55pfcj || Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | 8.04 (hardy heron) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | ||
| ogra | not actually "hot" anymore :) | 17:05 |
| Michiel__ | !help | 17:05 |
| ubottu | Hi! I'm #edubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | 17:05 |
| Fritz87 | hi | 17:05 |
| ogra | sbalneav, btw, feature freeze is over, fixes need to go into the packaging or we need exceptions | 17:08 |
| sbalneav | ok | 17:10 |
| sbalneav | Michiel__: Hello | 17:10 |
| Michiel__ | sbalneav: hello | 17:10 |
| sbalneav | Fritz87: hello | 17:10 |
| Michiel__ | I am eghie by the way | 17:10 |
| Michiel__ | my eghie is a ghost for now | 17:10 |
| Michiel__ | client crash and stuff ;) | 17:10 |
| Fritz87 | I am writing a proposal for a course I'm taking that I plan on presenting at my work (I work for the tech department of a local school district) | 17:12 |
| Fritz87 | and was wondering if there are any alternatives to linux terminal service project for lets say, an entire huge school district | 17:13 |
| Fritz87 | because from what i've seen so far from people I've spoken with there is lots of room for improvement | 17:13 |
| Michiel__ | LTSP and DRBL and Nomachine NX are 3 I know | 17:13 |
| Fritz87 | thanks I'll check those out | 17:14 |
| Michiel__ | although, you need to build a distro around Nomachine NX | 17:14 |
| ogra | yeh, thats only a single app | 17:14 |
| Michiel__ | but you can use the LTSP client distro to intergrate Nomachine NX client for example | 17:14 |
| ogra | and DRBL isnt installable side by side with LTSP ... | 17:15 |
| ogra | afaik | 17:15 |
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| ogra | it isnt integrated with the distro as deep as LTSP is | 17:15 |
| Eghie | ogra: with distro you mean the client or the server? | 17:16 |
| ogra | ?? | 17:17 |
| ogra | ubuntu | 17:17 |
| Eghie | because, LTSP isn't that far intergrated in the server distro, I guess | 17:17 |
| Eghie | it's portable | 17:17 |
| ogra | sure | 17:17 |
| ogra | no | 17:17 |
| Eghie | LTSP not portable? | 17:17 |
| ogra | ltsp4 was | 17:17 |
| ogra | ltsp5 isnt by design | 17:17 |
| ogra | the client is built using the servers tools | 17:18 |
| Eghie | hmm, yeah, that is true | 17:18 |
| ogra | unless you run suse that somewhat voilates all policies we have made for ltsp5 | 17:18 |
| ogra | they have a fixed image that gets installed as package afaik | 17:19 |
| Eghie | ok | 17:19 |
| ogra | which is somewhat like going back to ltsp 4.x | 17:19 |
| Eghie | yeah, that's correct | 17:19 |
| Eghie | I see what you mean | 17:20 |
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| Fritz87 | what are the current problems with LTSP? People tell me its less than ideal on a very large scale, but I havent really found anything suggesting that | 17:22 |
| Eghie | Fritz87: LTSP is often used with Gnome | 17:24 |
| Eghie | and Gnome has some process which have a habit to stay running after the user logs off | 17:24 |
| Fritz87 | ahhh I see | 17:24 |
| Fritz87 | are people working on a solution for that? | 17:25 |
| Eghie | but using another Window Manager will solve that problem | 17:25 |
| Fritz87 | oh okay | 17:25 |
| ogra | or just adding some script bits | 17:25 |
| Fritz87 | so if you installed the edubuntu packages to kubuntu, that would work? | 17:25 |
| Eghie | for example yes | 17:25 |
| ogra | well, you need edubuntu-kde for that | 17:25 |
| Eghie | although there will be running some gnome processes maybe | 17:25 |
| Fritz87 | ah i see | 17:25 |
| ogra | the normal edubuntu-desktop depends on ubuntu-desktop | 17:26 |
| Eghie | see the bottom of this page for example: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingLTSP | 17:26 |
| Eghie | i'm going for some diner i guess | 17:26 |
| Eghie | later | 17:26 |
| Fritz87 | cya | 17:27 |
| Fritz87 | and thanks for the link | 17:27 |
| Fritz87 | i cant wait to finish this proposal, im writing 2 | 17:27 |
| Fritz87 | one for the school district which is unlikely to succede, and the other targeted at a specific teacher that gets fudniing to experiment with this kind of stuff | 17:27 |
| ogra | Fritz87, for large deployments you should talk to stgraber btw | 17:27 |
| ogra | he works on clustering support for multiple ltsp servers | 17:27 |
| Fritz87 | thanks I will | 17:28 |
| Fritz87 | looks like I have a lot of research to do, I'm not very qualified for the job, but its something i really care about, you know what i mean? | 17:31 |
| Fritz87 | open source schools | 17:31 |
| LaserJock | Fritz87: gotta start somewhere, regarding being "qualified" :-) | 17:33 |
| Fritz87 | yeah =) | 17:34 |
| Fritz87 | I'm just a part time summer employee for the tech department in the school district in question while I'm going to school for an economics degree | 17:34 |
| LaserJock | nice | 17:35 |
| Fritz87 | I might even get to write a paper for credit and get support from the rutgers writing program | 17:35 |
| Fritz87 | so I think i really have a shot at making a difference if things work out | 17:36 |
| Fritz87 | writing a proposal and making a powerpoint presentation for the tech department, at least thats the plan | 17:37 |
| Fritz87 | and plan b is this classroom of the future program | 17:38 |
| Nubae | gnome-watchdog does a good job at analysing misbehaving processes and killing them | 18:17 |
| wanne | hi, sry but I cant see in the download section (edubuntu.org) wich cds i have to download in order to get a thin client? for terminal server ubuntu alternate + add on, right? | 19:59 |
| sbalneav | wanne: Yes | 20:10 |
| wanne | thx, cu | 20:24 |
| * Lns thinks we might be on the verge of figuring out the Firefox 3.x / LTSP bug | 21:30 | |
| Lns | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453704#c8 | 21:30 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 453704 in General "Extreme slowness, "Firefox is already running" error for >3 users launching Firefox in LTSP environment" [Critical,Unconfirmed] | 21:30 |
| Eghie | Lns: thanks for the nice debugging :) that should help | 21:33 |
| Lns | Eghie: yw =) My pleasure. FYI I'm in irc.mozilla.org/#firefox w/mzz right now trying to nail it | 21:34 |
| Eghie | will monitor it | 21:35 |
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