[00:23] JontheEchidna: bug 270704 [00:23] Launchpad bug 270704 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] powerdevil" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270704 [00:23] ScottK-laptop: Is it preferred to open a seperate bug for the FFe request or use the needs-packaging one? [00:51] bdmurray: so bug 228510 can be moved to update-manager? [00:51] Launchpad bug 228510 in adept "Upgrade Tool Crashed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/228510 [00:54] JontheEchidna: I'm not certain I was - ERROR not handled expection in KDE frontend: - in the log. But that might just be the KDE frontend of update-manager. [00:59] bdmurray: grepping update-manager source I get: [00:59] logging.error("not handled exception in KDE frontend:\n%s" % "\n".join(lines)) [00:59] in the file DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeViewKDE.py [00:59] JontheEchidna: cool, I'll flip it back then [01:00] hopefully this should become less confusing in Intrepid, since Adept plays no part whatsoever in dist-upgrading this time [01:45] apachelogger: Using the needs-packaging one is fine. [01:45] Ok, thanks. [02:18] Riddell: around? [02:18] heya ScottK. No prob with my scim fix after? [02:30] rgreening: I uploaded it. There was something minor. Let me think ... [02:31] rgreening: No, no problems. It was just the maintainer change. [02:34] yay, new release of vlc has qt4 ui: http://download2.videolan.org/vlc/screenshots/0.9.2/screenshot-kde4.jpg [02:39] stupid net dropping [02:39] lol [02:55] JontheEchidna: you around? [03:16] rgreening_: Just in case you didn't get it: [21:32] rgreening: No, no problems. It was just the maintainer change. [03:17] lol. ya. :) [03:18] OK. What with the dropping in and out, I wasn't sure. [03:18] rgreening_: Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. [03:18] np. for some reson ,my wireless drooped [03:18] ya. ben wanting to help out [03:19] I was developing for Gentoo a while back... [03:19] making the switch from ebuild to debuild is not as bad as I thought. [03:19] still a few things to pick up on [03:20] IMO there's a lifetime of stuff to pick up on, but maybe I'm just slow. [03:20] I am looking for a few small projects to work on. So, if anyone has more, pass them on [03:20] hehe [03:20] rgreening_: What sort of projects? [03:22] Anything I can help with for Intrepid/KDE4 [03:22] OK. Hmmm. [03:22] NCommander: kde4bindings uploaded. Thank you. [03:23] rgreening_: Are you running Intrepid? [03:23] yep [03:23] up to dat [03:23] date [03:24] I guess the first thing I would suggest is to look at any bugs that are bothering you and see if you can scratch that itch. [03:26] will do. If anything comes immediately to mind though... like fixing patches or whatever, feel free to fire some my way. [03:26] Sure. I don't have anything KDE4 specific right now. [03:26] I'm hoping to get more involved. kk [03:27] One more general thing that needs doing is to update the amule package. Interested in looking into that? It'll need a freeze exception. [03:27] Riddell asked me to look at 3 things. 2/3 completed now. so once the 3rd is done, I'll need something else [03:27] :) [03:27] ScottK: when will the update scim package show up? [03:30] rgreening_: It's built and accepted on all archs. Just a question of mirror lag: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/scim-bridge/0.4.14-2ubuntu1 [03:32] ah. kk [03:33] yeah. I was pretty happy with the fix. [03:33] rgreening_: Next step would be to ask yourself if you think the patch would be useful for Debian? [03:34] possibly. Does debian use the same apt-get missing package check? I.e., if you type a command and the program is not installed, it will tell you how to install it? If yes, then sure, it may be useful. [03:34] rgreening_: No, they don't have command-not-found. [03:35] then, maybe not. They may use the other patch, with the popen (ugly) hack which already exists. [03:36] popen would not work for us with the command not found program installed. So, my patch was actually smaller and cleaner [03:36] OK. Generally once we fix something in Ubuntu, if it's be useful to Debian, then next thing is to send them the patch in their BTS. [03:36] it's/it'd [03:37] yeah. did that for the gtk one the other day. I wasn't sure if this one was relevant. I may look into their src and see what they have. [03:37] Before this patch their source and our's were the same. [03:38] ok. hmm.. maybe it would be just find then. I'll open a bug and send the details up along [03:38] Good. It's in our interest to minimize the Debian/Ubuntu differences. [03:39] 4 sure [03:56] ScottK: debian BTS submitted for scim-bridge [04:03] rgreening_: Great. Thanks. [04:03] np [05:03] stdin: Do you have a fix for Bug 230904? It does seem to be giving some people trouble in Hardy. [05:03] Launchpad bug 230904 in webkit "package libqtwebkit-dev broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/230904 [05:05] ScottK-laptop: I'd probably suggest having libqt4-dev conflict/replace libqtwebkit-dev [05:06] stdin: Is this going to be a problem on upgrades too or just in backports? [05:08] rgreening_: If you still want something to do, this bug needs doing^^^^ [05:08] hmm, the backported libqt4-dev already has a conflict/replaces on it [05:08] k [05:09] stdin: There's currently a guy in #ubuntu-motu with this problem. Perhaps you could discuss it with him and see what's up then. [05:11] ScottK-laptop: I think it's probably because libqtwebkit-dev depends on libqt4-dev [05:12] people who have it installed will probably get a normal upgrade, but people trying to install it now (with -backports enabled) will get a fail [05:13] Ah, so remove libqtwebkit-dev and then upgrade libqt4-dev if needed. [05:15] yeah [05:17] In that case, I'm not sure it can get any more fixed. [05:17] rgreening_: Maybe not. [05:18] yeah. I had a look. I am inclined to agree. It's not 'really' a bug. More of an inconvenience. [05:19] :) [06:02] ScottK-laptop: debian/watch for this http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=86628&id=1&tan=16646170 ? [06:02] this http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=86628&id=1&tan=16646170-(.*)\.tar\.bz2 doesn't work :( [08:59] Riddell: ping === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi [10:38] NCommander: Ahhh. kde4bindings didn't work out so well .... [10:39] ScottK-laptop: noticed that, didn't you [10:39] Yeah [10:39] Not my best work ever -_-; [10:39] I have no *****ing clue why lpia now FTBFS [10:39] * ScottK waits for an updated debdiff ... [10:40] I already broke it twice [10:40] I'm not sure I'm willing to tempt fate again [10:40] (without access to a hppa box that is) === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_away === smarter_ is now known as smarter === mars__ is now known as mars_ [13:37] Riddell: can we bump qtjambit to 4.3.3 (or 4.4.0) instead of using 4.3.1? If not, I need to secure a patch for a problem with GCC and QtJambi (memset issue so it won't build) [13:38] s/qtjambit/qtjambi [13:45] one suggestion for next kubuntu: [13:45] enable Dim Inactive by default [13:45] and its dimming should be gradual, not suddenly [13:46] kubuntu intrepid's features haven't been frozen, isn't it? [13:48] yes. [13:50] .. [13:56] this dood is seriously frightening me [13:56] lol [13:57] i just tried kubuntu intrepid alpha 5 in virtualbox [13:57] and then deleted the vm. [13:57] but i miss its wallpaper. is there a url where i can download this wallpaper? [13:58] the old versions of kubuntu-default-settings on launchpad would have them. === davmor2_away is now known as davmor2 [14:04] don't know the link [14:04] am installing it again [14:04] search for nuno pinhiero blue curl on google [14:05] isn't that the same as kde 4? [14:06] anyway, installing again isn't slow [14:16] I think my laptop's trackpad is going [14:18] Czessi: fancy backporting the Lancelot update from Intrepid to Hardy? [14:19] JontheEchidna: does it build cleanly, or does it need actual backporting work [14:20] JontheEchidna: i can backport it this evening [14:20] NCommander: should just need Hardy cdbs [14:21] JontheEchidna: put in an offical backporting request and I'll test it [14:21] so that all jdong or ScottK needs to do is subscribe the archive admins to make it happen [14:21] NCommander: this is just for the kde4 ppa, so an official request isn't needed [14:22] oh [14:22] I thought you wanted an actual backport for hardy, not just a PPA :-) [14:22] hehe [14:22] Czessi_: thanks [14:43] is there a svn/cvs repo for qt4 somewhere? I'm looking to backport some of the updates in Qt to the current rev. Specifically, Qt Jambi [14:55] Can someone try something for me please? Open up Konqueror and goto planet.ubuntu.com and see if all the boxes are completed around each post [14:56] k. 1 sec [14:57] sorry I forgot on intrepids build [14:57] nope. Konq under KDE4 shows some blank areas [14:57] davmor2: In Hardy KDE3 it looks fine. [14:57] looks like some broken CSS possibly [14:58] rgreening: yeah but it's broken in webkit/Konq [14:58] hmm.. Im using khtml (I believe) [14:58] let me verify [14:59] yep. khtml [14:59] and I have the same issue [15:03] most bizarre :( humph I bug it and see if it clears up after :) [15:03] w/in 8 [15:05] It's likely in planet.css [15:05] or planet-ubuntu.css [15:05] rgreening: but there is no problems in other versions or browsers [15:06] I mean the clue as to why Konq4 is broken.. should be hinted at by what CSS is used in thosae two files [15:07] Does anyone have access to Safari to verify webkit is broken under safari as well? [15:14] rgreening: I just installed webkit/epiphany and the display is correct === mzungu_ is now known as mzungu [15:18] looking at a local copy to see if I can pinpoint it exactly [15:30] davmor2: I think it's in planet.css where Konq is having a prob. [15:31] with the link background extending across and over the box [15:31] rather than being transparent [15:32] pass I've no idea :( [15:32] rgreening, if you can send mee shot, i can try to help [15:33] anyone seen apachelogger today? [15:33] jussi01, nope [15:33] knome... sure. Give me a min or two to see if I can narrow it down further. [15:33] sure [15:33] though i might be able to do that as well [15:33] <- css geek [15:34] NCommander: I think I'm just going to add the Mono bindings to p-a-s and be done with it. [15:34] knome: are you using intrepid? [15:34] ScottK-laptop: how? [15:34] Are we repoting ppa bugs to LP? or? [15:34] davmor2, nope [15:35] * jussi01 found a bug in amarok2 [15:35] jussi01, you should try #amarok rather than apachelogger [15:36] knome: but apachelogger loves me :P [15:37] jussi01, he might not want amarok bug reports anyway, though [15:38] knome: you are probably orrect, however my seeking apachelogger has nothing to do with amarok... :D [15:38] aha.. [15:38] k then [15:38] anyway tey #amarok with amarok bug reports ;) [15:39] s/tey/try [15:39] hello RainCT [15:39] hi :) [15:40] welcome to #kubuntu-devel [15:40] hey [15:41] wo NCommander is a bot :P [15:42] RainCT, I am only a bot, please do not assume I have intellegence [15:42] * RainCT doesn't remember having ever assumed that *g* [15:42] d'oh [15:43] lol [15:44] rgreening, i'm going to have some food but i'll start up my laptop :P [15:45] knome: k. me 2. I have it narrowed down some more. looks like div.post-header section isn't working in planet.css under Konq4 [15:48] rgreening, can you send the shot? [15:48] * RainCT is wondering if apachelogger finished those nice icons? :P [15:48] i could look at it while eating [15:48] RainCT, i think he did [15:51] knome: can you accept dcc? [15:52] sure [15:52] didn't notice it first [15:52] :) [15:52] can you resend [15:52] see if it works through fw [15:52] ok. 1 sec [15:53] you see it? [15:53] yes [15:53] hmm [15:53] just send it to open@knome.fi [15:53] it might be that the routing on this server has changed or sth [15:53] done. [15:53] at least i previously could accept dcc [15:54] hm [15:54] might be my end.. fw [15:54] what was the address? [15:54] prob a 66. something [15:54] i mean the website [15:54] ;) [15:55] oh, planet.ubuntu.com. I think the bug shows up in something used in the CSS (planet.css) [15:55] ok [15:55] at least that's as far as I have tracked it [15:55] yeah [15:55] i'll see [15:55] looks like the image repeat doesn't work [15:55] yep [15:56] and it was konq/webkit? [15:56] which wasn't working [15:56] khtml [15:56] (at least for me) [15:56] k [15:56] in II or generally? [15:56] ? [15:57] intrepid [15:57] ah... II (konq4). Konq3 is fine apparantly [15:57] ok. [15:58] div.post-header { background: url(images/bubble/bubble-top.png) top left repeat-x; [15:58] } [15:59] try that [15:59] (add the left-parameter) [15:59] ah. sure.. 1 sec [16:00] in which css? [16:00] planet.css [16:00] cause I dont see that mistake [16:00] hmm... [16:00] 1 sec [16:01] currently it's only .. top repeat-x; [16:01] not in my file [16:01] !? [16:01] planet.css on planet.ubuntu.org [16:01] yep [16:01] wtf? [16:01] weird [16:01] 1 sec. let me wget it [16:01] are you sure you're editing the right file? [16:02] div.post-header { [16:02] background: url(images/bubble/bubble-top.png) top repeat-x; [16:02] } [16:03] I did a fresh wget of it from http://planet.ubuntu.com/planet.css [16:03] yes [16:03] add left into it [16:03] and the brace is there [16:03] sure [16:03] that's not what was missing ;) [16:03] "top repeat-x" -> "top left repeat-x" [16:04] ah... [16:04] duh [16:04] ;) [16:04] :) [16:06] did it help? [16:06] checking [16:07] yep. hmm... how come FF worked and Konq3 [16:07] it wasn't valid css [16:07] i think ff is better to intdiv.post-header { background: url(images/bubble/bubble-top.png) top left repeat-x; [16:07] } [16:07] oops [16:07] bottom is the same. CSS must be broken ther [16:07] just add left after bottom in .post-footer [16:08] it will fix it [16:08] anyway what i was saying that maybe ff interprets invalid css better;) [16:08] fixed [16:08] I wish there was a way to do the same in Konq (some compat mode) [16:09] heh [16:09] r u able to correct planet.css? [16:09] me? [16:09] uhh... you mean uploading ti? [16:09] who can fix the CSS [16:09] *it [16:09] in the site [16:09] i have no rights there [16:09] whatever [16:09] :) [16:09] RainCT: I sent the patch to NCommander [16:09] hallo apachelogger o/ [16:09] hullos [16:10] who managhes planet.ubuntu.com (webmin) [16:10] canonical sysadmins I guess [16:10] * knome thinks he is still hungry [16:10] Yep. [16:10] need to get them to fix planet.css (invalid CSS) [16:12] rgreening, if you want, i can go through all the css files and see if there's more invalid css [16:12] so we wouldn't have any surprises.. [16:12] wow, you must be really bored [16:12] knome: do that for kubuntu.org :P [16:12] nah [16:12] obsessed to css more likely [16:13] kubuntu.org css is valid [16:13] and actually, even those we fixed today isn't valid [16:13] \o/ [16:13] it just seems that khtml is unable to interpret them correctly [16:15] ? [16:15] uh, konq4 [16:15] or actually, wuut? [16:16] :) [16:16] lol [16:16] anyway, I sent patch to web admin for planet [16:16] yay [16:16] see if they fix it [16:17] ok. time for a break. [16:17] ok bye [16:18] apachelogger, what do you think, time for coffee? [16:19] hm [16:19] no [16:20] DOOOP! wrong answer! [16:21] if( person->alive == TRUE ) { coffeetime(); } [16:23] apachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=plasmoid-cpuload [16:24] debian/watch for kde-look doesn't work, right? [16:24] Lex79: righto [16:24] Lex79: how did you recompress the tarball? [16:25] extract tar.bz2 and compress with tar czvf [16:26] hm [16:26] :) [16:26] no good pratice :P [16:26] Lex79: bunzip2 BZIPFILE && gzip -9 TARFILE [16:26] ah ok [16:27] then you can drop the comment in debian/copyright, because you actually don't change the tarball, but only it's compression ;-) [16:28] I will drop the comment and I reuploaded it, ok? [16:30] aye [16:33] int coffeetime() { while CUP <> EMPTY; drink; if CUP == EMPTY then refill; } [16:33] bottomless cup for me [16:33] /dcc send rgreening finnish_coffee [16:34] lol [16:34] I just got mine filled. [16:34] hah [16:34] TIMMY! [16:34] so which country do you live in? [16:35] my dream home would have a Tim Horton's Coffee Drive through in my living room, next to my recliner (Canada) [16:35] :P [16:35] hmm [16:35] i doubt you have as good coffee as we ;) [16:35] depends, where are u? [16:35] at least if it's as mild as the coffee in usa [16:35] finland :P [16:36] lol. Tim Hortons has a lot of caffiene. Though, it's not expresso... My wife is from Portugal. So, yeah, expresso is better. [16:36] Dunkin Donuts (USA) is weak coffee [16:37] Though Starbucks in the US is a little stronger and they have thegood stuff (expresso, etc) [16:37] I'd love to go to Finland [16:37] http://www.coffeeresearch.org/market/consumption.htm [16:38] see table 1 :P [16:38] seeing I'm from Newfoundland (and people keep pronouncing it New-Findland.. ahahah) [16:38] that's a bit old statistics, but anyway [16:38] on table 2, scandinavia is still #1, though [16:39] but that includes a few other countries as well [16:39] Ha. Canada doesn't even rank. lol. I guess a POP of only 30 Million... [16:39] well it's kg/person [16:39] anyway ;) [16:40] I need to do my part and drink more coffee to make up the diff [16:40] hehe [16:40] time ot break out the IV drip [16:40] straigth into the vein [16:40] hehe [16:41] what do you think of starbucks? [16:41] anyone here work for Canonical (i.e getting paid)? Just curious... [16:41] oh, you said already [16:41] Starbucks is good. expensive though [16:41] :) [16:41] hmm [16:41] lol [16:42] well i prefer finnish basic coffee >>>>> starbucks ;) [16:42] :) [16:42] http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/foo_cof_con-food-coffee-consumption [16:42] finally a decent graph [16:42] * rgreening wants to work for Mark :) [16:43] we're not far away from norway ;) [16:43] thats mucho coffee [16:44] heh [16:44] plus you can count out the people who don't drink coffee [16:44] we're a small country so a small amount makes big difference [16:45] yeah. Canada has a huge land mass, but small pockets of people [16:45] that is confusing [16:45] Where I live there's about 500K [16:46] rgreening, you beat us in that [16:46] mostly in 5 cities/towns [16:46] My family is from a town of about 500 [16:46] but back when they originally left there was probably 50 [16:46] haha [16:47] hah [16:48] * rgreening looking for somethnig to fix... [16:48] any Intrepid stuff to fix (something small)? [16:48] rgreening, but there's a lot more you than us :P [16:48] wow [16:49] I like small [16:49] ha [16:49] finland is like ~5,5m [16:49] or maybe not even that [16:50] 2008 estimate 5,3 [16:51] * rgreening is browsing bugs... looking for something to do.... hmmm [16:51] he [16:51] fix my head [16:52] not [16:52] rm -rf /CVSROOT/HEAD [16:52] yay [16:52] i've executed chmod 777 -R / [16:52] sudo apt-get install new-head-1.2-1 [16:52] or sth [16:52] lol [16:52] that was nice one [16:53] I've done the rm -rf * in the wrong dir.. ONCE! [16:53] i was on ssh [16:53]