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Denisea all together00:06
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BBLakecan someone explain the difference between ubuntu kubuntu, and edubuntu?00:10
anom01yhow can I record a small clip of audio from an avi file ?00:10
chegeeWhat is defferent betwin Ubuntu and kubuntu?00:11
favroBBLake: it is the desktop environment that is the diff - kubuntu uses kde, ubuntu uses gnome, xubuntu uses xfce4, fluxbuntu uses fluxbox00:12
chegeethenks00:12
BBLakehmmmm....i had ubuntu, and i installed the ubuntu studio theme, now my computer is taking forever to load00:12
favroand I don't know about edubuntu...00:12
BBLakeis that because it's trying to load two desktop environemnts?00:12
LeeJunFanBBLake: no, it will only load one.00:13
favroI don't think ubuntu-studio is a desktop environment...00:13
BBLakenot sure what happen3ed...maybe not related, but i downloaded a great theme, but it takes 10 minutes to boot up now.  Took 20 seconds before.00:14
favrothere might be errors with the theme - try changing themes and reboot00:16
favroit will tell if it is the theme00:16
BBLakeok, will try that now...great idea..thanks00:16
anom01yhow come avidemux says "trouble initialising the audio device" when I use it on a video, but when I play the video with mplayer it plays audio fine...00:22
ign0ramusanom01y: i'm guessing it has to do with how avidemux is configured, specifically with respect to sound I/O00:23
anom01yign0ramus: well it is set to alsa00:23
ign0ramusanom01y: have you tried oss?00:24
ign0ramusanom01y: i rarely use avidemux, but mine was set to PCM (which i thought was weird) and oss, and i've never had any sound errors with it.00:25
chegeeI havn't sound, please tell that what I have to do to set up sound? (I trying to set sound 2 month, but...)00:26
ign0ramus!sound | chegee00:26
ubottuchegee: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP300:26
anom01yign0ramus: ok well I will try a few others00:27
anom01ythanks00:27
ign0ramusanom01y: np, bro00:27
tom_im trying to use intrepid, but the NetworkManager simply wont work, manually conencting also fails now (but worked this morning), any ideas (i hosed my hardy install's (/boot)) but can copy files over using cds00:28
chegeewhat's ARTS?00:29
ign0ramus!arts | chegee00:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about arts00:29
ign0ramuschegee: its your sound server00:30
chegee...00:30
BBLakeok, appreciate the idea favro, but it still took forever.    THe only other thing i messed with lately was the pulse audio settings00:30
BBLakeis that a boot killer?00:30
BBLakeif not, what is the best way to diagnosis booting issues.  (took 2 minutes a few days back)00:30
favroBBLake: I would try a boot without the splash so I could read what's happening00:31
tom_BBLake: is it hanging before getting to x00:31
tom_BBLake: if so in grub remove splash, and possible quite (this give alot of info)00:31
BBLakenot sure how to remove splash00:32
ign0ramusBBLake: you can also see startup scripts if you boot into Recovery Mode00:32
BBLakei should remove quite as well00:32
favroBBLake: at grub does your boot menu show?00:32
tom_in grub go to the ubuntu line and click e then remove the words splash and quiet00:32
BBLakesee, i don't get those options in grub ...it's weird.  today at my office it did...But now it doesn't give the options, but takes forever.00:32
BBLakecan i access grub from within ubuntu?00:33
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tom_yes it should be at /boot/grub/menu.lst00:33
anom01yign0ramus: I fixed the avidemux problem, you should check yours too..00:33
tom_well the menu anyway00:33
anom01yin preferences->audio->audio device, you have to type default in the box00:33
ign0ramusanom01y: yup, i just saw that00:33
anom01yremove the other text and replace it with "default"00:33
anom01yweird00:34
ign0ramusanom01y: did you see it here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51390100:34
anom01yyeah I did00:34
ign0ramushaha :)00:34
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BBLakei see that file, but not sure about what to do with it tom00:34
BBLakeDo i edit the splash settings in that file?00:34
anom01yits best to google things before flipping out I guess00:34
anom01y:)00:34
ign0ramusanom01y: it worked before with oss, but like i said, i haven't used it in forever, and the sound didn't work any more00:34
BBLakeIt seems there are more than one kernels.  Is this normal?00:35
favroyep00:35
BBLakeok...so if i want to see the start-up script, and what's hanging i have to disable splash?00:35
BBLake# defoptions=quiet splash00:36
favroBBLake: just delete splash from the kernel line00:36
favroBBLake: near the bottom00:36
favroof the file00:36
rociocomo cambiio un tema en kubuntu?00:36
favro!es00:36
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:36
BBLakeshould i delete quite as well?   ANd do i do this for all kernels?00:37
favro!it00:37
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)00:37
ign0ramusBBLake: you only need to do it on the kernel you normally load (unless you use all of them)00:37
favroBBLake: I would remove quiet and splash for the default kernel00:37
BBLakelol..i don/t know how i got more than one.00:38
ign0ramusBBLake: from apt-get updating00:38
BBLakeoh...so it's normal to have multiples...Can't grasp the concept...How do i determine my default kernel?00:38
BBLakethe latest one i presume?00:38
ign0ramusBBLake: usually, yeah00:38
ign0ramusBBLake: whatever's highlighted by default when you boot up00:39
carutsu!xscreensaver00:39
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xscreensaver00:39
ign0ramusBBLake: there's a good management tool called qgrubeditor, but we'll talk about that later00:39
BBLakethat's the thing igno, i don't see any options to chose when i boot up...I goes right to the login screen.00:39
BBLakei don't even see the ubuntu loading w9indow (with the ogo and the progress bar)00:40
BBLakebut, i have removed splash from the latest kernel version.   and will try and reboot.00:40
ign0ramusBBLake: kk00:40
favroBBLake: wait00:40
BBLakeok00:40
favroin the menu.lst file is a line to hide the menu - make sure it is set to not hide it00:41
favroit's near the top00:41
rociopara español?00:41
favrohiddenmenu=false00:41
ign0ramus!es00:41
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:41
favro!es | rocio00:41
ubotturocio: please see above00:41
BBLake## hiddenmenu00:42
BBLake# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)00:42
BBLake#hiddenmenu00:42
ign0ramusBBLake: that's the one, but like it says, you can press esc to see the menu00:42
rociothanks. its the  first time I use linux and and dont use to it00:42
BBLakei'd like to change the setting to show by default....Where do i put =false00:42
BBLakethe top or the bottom of those three lines?00:43
BBLake## hiddenmenu00:45
BBLake# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)00:45
BBLake#hiddenmenu00:45
ign0ramusBBLake: are you editing your /boot/grub/menu.lst file?00:47
BBLaketrying to.00:47
ign0ramusBBLake: can you pastebin it?00:47
ign0ramus!paste00:47
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)00:47
BBLakei've got copied. how do i pastebin...sending it now00:47
ign0ramusBBLake: huh? copy it, go to pastebin, pastebin it, submit, and post url here00:48
BBLakeway neat00:48
BBLakehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/47287/00:48
ign0ramusthere you go :)00:48
ign0ramusBBLake: except you didn't paste your menu.lst file.... xD00:49
BBLakei already took the splash out00:50
BBLakehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/47288/00:50
BBLakenot sure what i pasted the first time?00:50
BBLakesecond time looks like it worked00:50
BBLakeis anything unusual:?  the linux os is on a dedicated hard drive, don't know why it's get something about windows at the bottom00:51
ign0ramusBBLake: looks good... except you still have 'quiet' on your newest (default) kernel...00:51
ign0ramusBBLake: isn't that what you were trying to get rid of?00:51
BBLakeok, i thought it was just splash i was geting rid of00:51
BBLakewhat about the show grub menu at startup always?00:52
ign0ramusBBLake: [7:37PM] <favro> BBLake: I would remove quiet and splash for the default kernel00:52
BBLakei'm going to delete quite from them all00:52
BBLakeok, going now.00:52
BBLakeall kernel's have quiet removed.    Now i'll be able to read start-up script and see where it's hanging?00:53
ign0ramusBBLake: if 'hiddenmenu' is commented, your grub should show on startup00:53
ign0ramusBBLake: yep00:53
BBLake## 'hiddenmenu'00:54
BBLake# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)00:54
BBLake#'hiddenmenu'00:54
BBLakelike that?00:54
BBLakeign0, you can't see anything in grub that's holding it up?00:54
ign0ramusBBLake: no - http://www.debianadmin.com/show-and-hide-the-grub-menu-on-ubuntu.html00:55
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ign0ramuswhen there's a hash (#) in front of a line, it gets ignored.  if it says 'hidden' but is hashed out, then 'hidden' will be ignored (ie, it will show)00:55
anom01yanyone know a good program that plays both audio files and video files ?00:56
ign0ramusanom01y: vlc00:56
anom01ydoes it make playlists ?00:56
BBLakehmm..it won't let me save the changes...permissions00:56
ign0ramusBBLake: you have to be superuser to edit files in /boot/... use 'kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst' to be able to save changes00:57
anom01yI have a friend who is a complete newb, I installed Linux to his system, but he doesnt like how he has to switch from amarok to mplayer all the time. lol00:57
anom01ywhen he downloaded his music he downloaded both videos and mp3s, and now they are all mixed up00:57
favroBBLake: close without saving then   alt+F2   and type   kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst00:58
BBLakecommand kate not found...grr00:59
favroBBLake: kate is an editor - choose another e.g. kwrite01:00
ign0ramusBBLake: try kedit01:00
ign0ramusor kwrite :)01:00
favronano vim01:00
favrohehe01:00
anom01ycool yeah vlc will work good01:00
ign0ramusfavro: he'll get killed with the keyboard shortcuts!01:00
ign0ramusanom01y: afaik, it doesn't organize your library, though01:01
anom01yyeah thats fine01:01
ign0ramusanom01y: but it does play *everything* and the new version just came out like yesterday :)01:01
BBLakeok got it..everything but disabling hidden menu.   still not sure because one has two hashes the other has one01:01
anom01yI tried installing a amarok script for him to play video's but I couldnt get it01:02
ign0ramusBBLake: it ignores after the first hash, so you could have a hundred, and it doesn't matter01:02
pteagueyou could also try the mythtv packages, but that kinda eats up a set amount of space (your entire desktop by default)01:02
anom01yI set the script on "run" and tried opening a video file, but it did not work properly01:02
ign0ramusanom01y: i saw that too, but it doesn't look ready01:02
BBLakethat clears it up01:02
cleberSou novato neste bate-papo01:02
BBLakeok, going for the reboot..should i be looking for something in particular?01:03
ign0ramusBBLake: yeah, a hangup xD01:03
BBLakeok. be back in an hour..lol01:03
cleberCara, só eu falo português por aqui?01:04
ign0ramus!pg | cleber01:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pg01:04
ign0ramusshoot, i don't remember the abbreviation xD01:05
ign0ramus!br01:05
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt por ajuda em português. Obrigado.01:05
ign0ramuswoot!01:05
cleberValeu... Estou saindo e passo para outra sala.01:06
ign0ramusok01:06
BBLakehmmm..ok  nothing changed...lol     Didn't see any script or option or anything...just right to the login screen after considerable time01:10
BBLakemaybe a 12 minute boot time is normal?01:10
ign0ramusBBLake: weird... did you try my original suggestion- to boot into Recovery Mode?01:11
ign0ramusBBLake: no, it's not normal01:11
BBLakedon't have th eoption...it blows past th eopportunity to select which one so quickly.01:11
ign0ramusBBLake: press ESC01:11
BBLakeok, i will try and hit esc....what will the recovery mode do to help me troubleshoot?01:12
ign0ramusBBLake: it should show all startup scripts running01:12
BBLakeok, brb01:12
afeijohow to make kopete open MSN new msgs on Firefox?01:14
afeijonew emails01:15
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chris_____uuhm totem is playing my dvd only in spanish... :)01:23
ign0ramuschris_____: use vlc or kaffeine?01:24
chris_____totem isnt so great?01:25
ign0ramuschris_____: not in my experience... maybe someone else can vouch for it, but i've never really liked it01:25
chris_____ign0ramus: thanks! :)01:26
ign0ramuschris_____: np01:26
chris_____will kaffeine work fine in gnome?01:26
ign0ramuschris_____: sure will- it may download some dependcies, but you can run it.  I suggest VLC01:27
ign0ramusnew version is in the repos now01:27
larryalkWhere can I _download_ a fresh copy of sources.list for Kubuntu 8.04.1?01:28
chris_____installing vlc..01:28
* SkEmO is rebooting, bbasap01:28
ign0ramuslarryalk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73911901:28
larryalkign0ramus, Thanks for that info.  I had hoped to find an official Cannonical site to d/l from01:30
larryalkign0ramus, I found one once but have lost it.01:30
DreadKnightign0ramus: is it using qt4  for the GUI? porting complete?01:30
ign0ramuslarryalk: they're in Adept01:31
ign0ramusDreadKnight: what? vlc?01:31
chris_____ign0ramus: tony soprano speaks english now (sort of) thanks :)01:31
ign0ramuschris_____: cool... glad it works for you!01:31
DreadKnightign0ramus: yes; they are aiming for nice qt GUI; screw gtk+ it seems01:31
ign0ramusDreadKnight: the version in the repos is gtk01:31
BBLakeback...did not work.  my finger hurts from hitting ESC so much....nothing....01:32
DreadKnightign0ramus: nice project (backend at least for now); so i guess i have to wait longer then01:32
ign0ramusDreadKnight: i tried to compile a version this morning, and it was using qt to build, but it would not 'make install' :(01:32
DreadKnightign0ramus: oh i see01:32
ign0ramusDreadKnight: so i don't know how it would have looked, but it was definitely using qt to build...01:32
BBLakeigno, should i do a re-install, and chuck it up to experience?   I'm planning on starting a solid back-up plan before making any changes i'm not 100% about01:33
ign0ramusBBLake: try installing qgrubeditor... there's a lot of options for your grub, and it's easy to configure01:33
DreadKnightign0ramus: it's going the right way :-) gtk+ is depracated anyways; qt4.5 can use gnome theses as well01:33
BBLakeok, will give it a shot prior to the re-install01:33
ign0ramusDreadKnight: did you see the qt firefox?  looks promising01:33
DreadKnightdeprecated*01:33
Digitelhello01:34
larryalkign0ramus, I'll look at Adept.  Tnx.01:34
Digitelno01:34
Digitelespañol01:34
DreadKnightign0ramus: seen screenshots but heard it's not really usable; looking forward to a webkit browser (arora; chrome; konqueror)01:34
ign0ramuslarryalk: no problem01:34
ign0ramusDreadKnight: i wish mozilla would use WebKit, but Gecko is their flagship...01:35
DreadKnightign0ramus: yeah; well firefox might be dumped from ubuntu since the EULA issue01:35
Digitellol01:35
Digitelc:01:36
BBLakeigno, do you think it's because the grub sees a windows os out there that is not out there?01:36
ign0ramusDreadKnight: what, just dumped as a default browser?01:36
sobczykDreadKnight: I think theyll just fork it01:36
penguiniatorDreadKnight: not according to Mark Shuttleworth01:36
ign0ramusBBLake: run "sudo update-grub"01:36
Digitelgood bye01:36
DreadKnightsobczyk: they'll probably replace it with iceweasel (neat, used it for a while) or emphaty (soon using webkit!)01:36
DreadKnightign0ramus: yeah, and move it to another repository01:36
BBLakeok, and i chose their recomendations...  it is updated..01:37
sobczykthey can create their ow brand,  hough iceweasel would be the smartest choice01:37
BBLakeI interviewed Mark Shuttleworth last thursday for my radio show...Should have asked him about FF01:37
ign0ramusBBLake: ok, you can also remove unwanted (old) kernels in Adept01:37
ign0ramusBBLake: a little housekeeping, you know01:37
BBLakeIs that a good idea?, maybe keep the last three type of thing01:37
BBLakeso are kernels, like restore points in a sense?01:37
DreadKnightemphaty = default gnome browser; great integration into gnome; nice way of installing addons; will soon use the great webkit; best choice imho01:38
ign0ramusBBLake: do you ever use them?  you can keep them all, if you want01:38
BBLakei NEVER use them. didnt know they existed until just now.01:38
BBLakedon't want to delete them, maybe i can use an older one to bypass thiss boot issue01:38
BBLakei'm going to use grub editor to change my default kernel, see if it will boot faster01:38
ign0ramusBBLake: kernels are not like restore points - it the base of the operating system, which gets updated frequently.  if  you're using a newer one, and everything works, you can ditch the old ones01:38
DreadKnightsudo apt-get autoremove01:39
ign0ramusDreadKnight: autoremove gets rid of older kernels?01:39
DreadKnightBBLake: you can choose which kernel to boot, from boot options01:39
BBLakeok, i get you.  Restore points are my next project.  Can't have these types of issues arise without a back-up..I'd hate to have to re-install because of this issue01:39
sobczykign0ramus: you should  leave one just in case01:39
DreadKnightign0ramus: yeah;01:39
ign0ramussobczyk: i agree.01:39
ign0ramusDreadKnight: that seems a little over-reaching, but i've never had a problem01:40
BBLakechanging my default kernel is a good idea..seems like the logical next step here01:40
DreadKnightany guys around here using a tablet pc?01:40
ign0ramusnope01:40
ign0ramusBBLake: which kernel are you running?01:40
BBLakeI am at work,  on XP however.  They are wicked..I'm a new fan of the thinkpads.01:40
BBLake2.6.24-19-generic01:41
ign0ramusBBLake: i think 24-21-generic is in the regular repos... maybe upgrade?01:41
* DreadKnight hates how linux distros are so stupid regarding tablet pc's... an infinite number of guides on the internet on how to hack the stuff yourself, each in a different but similar way, yet no distro implements an out of the box solution01:42
BBLakequickest way to upgrade?01:42
BBLakemy pc hasn't asked me for an upgrade in a while.01:42
ign0ramusBBLake: " sudo apt-get update && upgrade "01:42
sobczykign0ramus: I have too the 24-19 you have proposed repos?01:42
BBLakeok, going for it.01:43
ign0ramussobczyk: i honestly don't know which repo my kernel came from :/01:43
BBLakewe shall see01:43
sobczykI had some problems with 24-20 not booting up, was from proposed01:43
ign0ramussobczyk: i do have all repos Adept offers checked, and a bunch of others (medibuntu, etc)01:43
ign0ramussobczyk: the generic version?01:43
sobczykyes01:43
DreadKnightanyone around familiar with opensuse? would like some feedback about it (version 11 hopefully, using KDE)01:44
BBLakei think i just upgraded..went quick01:44
larryalkign0ramus, Unfortunately the sources.list downloaded from your suggestion is so different I can't compare it to the orig sources.list from the install.01:44
sobczykgrep proposed /etc/apt/sources.list01:44
larryalkign0ramus, Do you know where i can d/l it from a site that will give me the same info in the same order as the install cdrom?01:45
compilerwriter!live cd01:45
ubottuThe Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.01:45
BBLakeok igno....moved kernel back to 14 to see if that resolves boot issue01:45
ign0ramusanyone know how to get a completely clean (default) sources.list file for Hardy?01:45
sobczykubuntuforums maybe01:46
ign0ramuscan you rm the current one and have Adept generate a new one?01:46
larryalkign0ramus, Where would Adept gen a new one?  In /etc/apt?01:46
burneranyone playing with vlc 0.9.2 yet?01:46
sobczykAdept parses the file sources.list01:46
larryalksobczyk, Problem is I don't trust the sources.list I have now.01:47
ign0ramusburner: got mine today01:47
burnerwell where's my deb? :)01:48
ign0ramusburner: it's in the repos01:48
ign0ramusburner: you have to purge the old one first01:48
BluesKajis there a fix for the K3B upgrade that keeps going in circles in the adept notifier ?01:49
sobczykk3b has a broken dependency01:49
sobczykwait till the dependant package gets upgraded01:50
DreadKnighti wonder how many months it takes to fix a broken dependency xD01:50
DreadKnightsudo apt-get remove k3b if it bothers you :D01:50
sobczykI wonder how it ended up in the repos01:50
* burner shrugs and keeps getting 0.8.6.release.h-1ubuntu1 for vlc01:50
* burner can wait :\01:50
DreadKnighti want qt frontend for vlc xD01:51
ign0ramusBluesKaj: i purged the old k3b and config files, and updated && installed k3b... works now01:51
larryalkign0ramus, Adept doesn't want to gen a new sources.list for me.01:51
ign0ramuslarryalk: i just moved my sources.list file to my desktop, and 'sudo apt-get update'd, and it used just the basic repos01:51
DreadKnightign0ramus: that worked like charm; BluesKaj you should try it01:52
ign0ramuslarryalk: no, strike, that, it used some other sources... where the heck did they come from?  Hang on... xD01:52
larryalkign0ramus, I'll try that.  Have moved my sources* files to a temp dir.01:52
ign0ramuslarryalk: yeah, move them somewhere else, check all the repos in Adept, and Fetch Updates01:53
ign0ramuslarryalk: hopefully that will generate a clean file for you01:53
burnerDreadKnight: did you see the new vlc?  0.9.2 is qt4 based01:53
szakulecDreadKnight: good news- vlc switched to QT4 for 0.9.x01:53
larryalkign0ramus, I checked only the repos in the first page.  Here I go.01:53
DreadKnightburner: where do i get it from?01:53
DreadKnightszakulec: i know, but haven't tried it out yet, not sure where to find it01:53
burnerDreadKnight: it should be in the repos soon enough01:54
DreadKnightdo they have a repo for ubuntu for now or debs?01:54
DreadKnighti really hope the GUI isn't that crappy anymore01:54
szakulecDreadKnight: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html01:54
burnerthat doesn't have updated packages01:54
ign0ramusi got the new version from the repos... i had to purge the old version first01:55
DreadKnightindeed, remember i tried it.. at least it didn't had a few days ago01:55
ign0ramusit looks gtk though...01:55
larryalkign0ramus, sudo apt-get updates gave me a new file with only 3 comments in it - no repos01:55
DreadKnighthmm01:55
ign0ramuslarryalk: did you Fetch Updates in Adept?01:56
DreadKnightvlc 8.6.0 in repo.. darn01:56
ign0ramusDreadKnight: how the heck did i get the new version then?01:56
DreadKnightign0ramus: you tell me ! T_T01:56
DreadKnightign0ramus: added any repo for it?01:57
burnerign0ramus: i think you're full of crap ;)  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=vlc&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all01:57
ign0ramusDreadKnight: i tried compiling, but it said it failed to install, so i purged vlc in konsole, and 'apt-get install vlc' ... that was it01:57
DreadKnightintrepid?01:57
sobczykthe last time I tried vlc 9.x it wasn't stable01:57
ign0ramusDreadKnight: unless my install failed because the old vlc was still there...01:57
DreadKnightheh01:57
larryalkign0ramus, Adept won't let me fetch updates even though I checked all the boxes except source code.01:58
ign0ramuslarryalk: :/01:58
burnersobczyk: just released today01:58
sobczykvlc 9.x today?01:59
DreadKnightit seems so01:59
larryalkign0ramus, There is no box that would do something in the Software Sources window.01:59
DreadKnighthttp://www.videolan.org/vlc/01:59
sobczykI used the sources01:59
ign0ramusDreadKnight: i'm not lying - http://i33.tinypic.com/5euxbt.png02:00
sobczykback then02:00
burnerign0ramus: nice :)  it was me calling you out on it though... not DreadKnight ;)02:00
ign0ramusburner: either way - apt says i have the new version...02:00
BluesKajlarryalk, did you check third party software as well ?02:00
larryalksobczyk, I don't need the sources.  Have compiled much since my Slackware days.02:00
larryalkBluesKaj, no02:01
sobczykI do dev with qt4 so I don't mind02:01
burnerign0ramus: i see that... i want it!02:01
ign0ramusburner: i don't have a vlc repo or anything... i don't know how i got it02:01
burneri'm sure it's just a matter of time02:02
ign0ramusalright - football time for me02:02
ign0ramusgnite guys02:02
larryalksobczyk, There is only a Reset and Close box in the Software Sources window.  How the heck do i do something?02:02
sobczykhttp://nightlies.videolan.org/02:02
DreadKnighti think the default ubuntu repositories are updated first rather then the local ones; always happens a small desyncronization :P02:03
sobczykSoftware sources? aptitude?02:03
larryalkDreadKnight, Where can I download the sources.list from U or Kubuntu ?02:03
DreadKnightlarryalk: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=489115402:05
DreadKnightsobczyk: ran into that before; i'm not using intrepid, remember it had broken dependencies on hardy; should use debian one instead or what? :P02:06
sobczykyou can02:06
pteagueis there a way that i can test the individual hard drives? lshw gets to a certain point & then craps out02:06
sobczyktes for what? badblocks?02:07
pteaguei can't figure out which 1 is bad... my raid5 crapped out & trying to reassemble it's showing only 1 drive attaching02:08
larryalkDreadKnight, It seems Adept does the update - when you hit the Close button.  I'm supposed to figure that out?02:08
DreadKnightlarryalk: ? :\02:09
pteaguei'm thinking i've got bad blocks on my /, but not sure...  which could corrupt the programs i'm trying to run to test the raid drives...  i know 1 of the raid drives was dying, but / is an old ide02:09
larryalkDreadKnight, I only got a single line of standard sources in the file.  I'll try the url you sent.02:09
DreadKnightlarryalk: well, there is the sources.list posted there02:10
DreadKnightit should solve your problem02:10
sobczykpteague: badblocks can test for badsectors02:11
sobczykread the manpage though02:11
larryalkDreadKnight, The sources list I justs d/l is for Ubuntu.  Would that be the same as the list for Kubuntu?02:13
DreadKnightlarryalk: ubuntu shares repo with derivates...02:13
DreadKnightkubuntu, xubuntu..02:13
larryalkDreadKnight, OK thanks.  I'll try to edit the file to compare it with my old sources.list.02:14
DreadKnightlarryalk: good luck :-)02:14
larryalkDreadKnight, Tnx.02:14
sobczykhttp://git.videolan.org/?p=vlc.git;a=summary02:15
sobczyk9.2 is 42 hr old be a man get from the git HEAD :]02:16
fiXXXerMetHi everyone.  Just installed lm-sensors and hddtemp.  Both can read / display values just fine.  What is a good frontend to see this information?02:16
DreadKnightsobczyk: that's pretty active02:16
DreadKnightuse bzr and launchpad damn it xD02:17
DreadKnight(launchpad's fault for being so ubuntu centric i guess)02:17
fiXXXerMetwho??02:17
favrofiXXXerMet: I like conky02:18
sobczykvlc has a subtitle display option?02:20
sobczykthe new one?02:20
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larryalkDreadKnight, Just to let you know that your url worked fine to d/l a sources.list in the same order as my old one.  Now I'm confident.  Many thanks.02:24
DreadKnightlarryalk: cool; google ftw :-)02:24
fiXXXerMetfavro: conky seems nice!02:28
fiXXXerMetJust need to configure it right.02:28
favrothere's a post on the forums about showing conky screenshots with rc files02:29
DreadKnightI've found a VLC 0.9.2 ppa/repository for Hardy! horay02:30
DreadKnightdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/ubuntu hardy main02:30
sobczykI'm getting the sources02:30
sobczykwonder if I have all the deps02:30
DreadKnightworks nicely but i don't see any shortcuts for now at least..02:35
sobczykDreadKnight: /usr/share/applications02:36
sobczykthere are the shortcuts02:36
sobczykyou can create your own :)02:37
DreadKnightsobczyk: i'm running it from konsole actually; right click open with vlc etc still buggy02:37
DreadKnightanyway, looks pretty sweet02:37
Digitelque viva la Republica Bolivariana de Venezula y nuestro presidente Hugo chavez fria patria o muerte venseremos02:38
DreadKnight(something like this http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=444aa444xj4.jpg )02:38
Digitelque viva la Republica Bolivariana de Venezula y nuestro presidente Hugo chavez fria patria o muerte venseremos02:38
burnerDigitel: que?02:39
Digitelwho lives the Bolivarian Republic of Venezula and our president Hugo Chávez Frías homeland or death Vens, against the North American empire02:39
Digitelcontra el imperio norte americano02:39
Digitelpatria o muerte venseremos  con chavez y venezuela02:40
burneryo vivo in el imperio02:40
sobczykI hate autotools, for every dependency error you have to run the damn thing from the beggining02:40
Digitelaqui en venezuela no gusta de los norte americanos imperialista02:40
Digitelya tenemos f-16 ruso02:41
burnerDigitel: aqui en los estados unidos, no gusta los norte americanos imperialista tambien02:42
DreadKnightDigitel: can you please go somewhere else with your politics/spam please? Thanks02:42
Digitelok02:42
Digitelque bien02:42
SkEmOo.o02:42
burner:)02:42
DreadKnightgracias xD02:42
SkEmOsi eres de EU, por que hablas en español?02:42
SkEmOdamn lies!02:43
BluesKaj!es | SkEmO02:43
ubottuSkEmO: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:43
DreadKnight:)02:43
SkEmO;O02:43
SkEmOhow dare you!02:43
SkEmO:P02:43
SkEmOi just type one sentence in spanish and i get the  thingy02:44
SkEmO:(02:44
Digitelliving bolivarina the republic of venezuela02:44
burnerme gusta los communidad de ubuntu donde la gente hablas en muchas linguas02:44
Digitelook02:44
burneranyone rockin todays flash player update?02:45
burnerthe full screen performance blows here02:46
Digitelhelicoteros chino ya llego a venezuela igual con los aviones F-1602:46
burnerDigitel: take that off topic crap somewhere else, por favor :)02:46
Digitelok02:46
Digitelya02:46
tom_!chroot02:56
ubottuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box02:56
corsarioi'm not undesstand translate my kubuntu for ptbr02:59
corsariohelp02:59
NickPrestaHey All03:00
BluesKajhi NickPresta ..ltns!03:00
NickPrestaBluesKaj, yep. Long time indeed. I sort of decided to get off the computer and stuff this summer and just enjoy being outside, friends and anything else I miss out on during the busy school year. =)03:01
mefisto__DreadKnight: did you install vlc from that ppa repo?03:02
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BluesKajright ...been busy here as well..just got back on yesterday after a month of projects and moving & travelling03:03
tom_is it possible to access my real /boot from a chroot03:03
DreadKnightmefisto__: yes03:05
BBLakeevening all.....question about the login window.   I had the ubuntu studio themed login window at some point, and removed....I tried to reinstall, but it said already installed.   How do i add it back in?03:07
BBLakealso is start-up manager a good app to grab?03:07
mefisto__DreadKnight: video didn't work for me03:10
DreadKnightmefisto__: it's problematic but works; fire it up from konsole by typing in "vlc"03:10
surgyhey guys hows it going?03:12
Daisuke_IdoDreadKnight: speaking of - heard anything about .9.2 actually making the repos this year/03:13
mefisto__BBLake: ubuntu studio used gdm by default, doesn't it?03:13
DreadKnightDaisuke_Ido: might make it into intrepid i hope; someone might backport it to hardy after all03:13
BBLakei just don't see it in the options anymore mefisto.  I took it out on someone's recomendations, and can't get it back03:14
DreadKnightmefisto__: yes as i recall, gnome based distro03:14
surgyI just built me a new computer amd x2 5000+ geforce 8800gt 2gb ram and 500 gb hdd, and now I want to make kubuntu into a speed demon. any suggestions?03:14
mefisto__BBLake: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm03:14
DreadKnightsurgy: 64 bits!03:14
NickPrestasurgy, it should already be fast :)03:14
mefisto__BBLake: and choose gdm when asked03:14
surgyit is running 64bit version and it is very fast03:15
surgybut i think it could be faster03:15
NickPrestaI have a similar setup03:15
BBLakeit didn't ask?03:15
BBLakerunning again03:15
NickPrestasurgy, how much faster? 1 second?03:15
BBLakedo i need a restart in order for changes to take effect?   Basically, i know the login theme is installed.03:16
surgywell my boto time could be improved i think. first off i want it to skip the login screen by auto logging me in03:16
BBLakejust can't get login windows manager to find it03:16
surgyhow do i do that?03:16
BBLakeran the command however.03:16
surgyboot*03:16
surgyalso when Im running dual monitors using my tv as one monitor and a crt 15 inch it only displays on the  first monitor connected]03:18
DreadKnightwtf is the matter with flash again? oh my03:19
mefisto__BBLake: so do you get kdm (the kde login window) or gdm without the ubuntustudio theme?03:19
BBLaketesting. brb03:20
BBLakenot sure, but i believe the ugly light blue one03:20
DreadKnight!flash03:21
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:21
BBLakedamn, i know this is supposede to be easy...why can't i get that back in as an option.  I rebooted and it is the gnome login theme still..everything else i've converted to the UbuntuStudio.03:28
BBLakeis it a particular file that i can search for on my box?03:28
mefisto__BBLake: I don't use gnome so I'm not exactly sure, but I think there should be "login window" or something in the system submenu, where you can choose the theme that gdm will use03:31
BBLakethere is, but the option for the ubuntustudio theme is not there.   But i know it's installed on my box..just can't get it in as an option03:32
mefisto__sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntustudio-gdm-theme03:33
BBLakeright on...that was it...i swear linux guys should run the world...(if they arent already)03:34
BBLakethanks mefisto.  Someone told me it was the kde themes destroying my boot.  But it's more kernel specific.03:35
BBLakeIf i boot from kernel .14 no issue,  kernel .19 takes 12 minutes.03:35
mn12 min to boot?03:35
BBLakeDon't know how to resolve, but that's my next project, now that i'm back to square one03:35
BBLakebrutal i know.  can't figure out what it is, but someone mentioned it was the login theme.  ??? (didn't make much sense)03:36
BBLakewith an older kernel (still trying to figure out the concept), it boots much quicker.  Maybe a corrupt kernel?03:36
mnhmm, i don't know03:36
mnit could be03:36
mnif you're booting the same thing then it wouldn't be more auto-run apps or anything03:37
BBLakedo auto-run apps begin before the login screen?   (something else to check)03:37
BBLakeseems they wouldn't start until after i login03:37
mnin Win they do03:38
mefisto__BBLake: if you have ubuntustudio, you should have a realtime kernel installed.  the grub menu entries should have -rt on the end.03:38
mnwell maybe not apps but scripts03:38
BBLakeis there a difference between ubuntustudio, and a ubuntustudio theme?   thought i was downloading wallpaper and login theme03:39
mnWhat's a realtime kernel?03:39
BBLakechecking grub menu though03:39
juan-intrepidif my kernels are missing from /boot how do i put them back there, ive done update-initramfs but i dont think thats enough03:40
mefisto__mn: realtime kernel is important for audio work. it gives audio the highest priority, to aviod skips and glitches when recording, etc, and to maintain good audio syncing03:42
mnoh, i don't think I need that then.  I don't really do the multimedia thing03:42
BBLakei would like to broadcast through ubuntu, but unfortunately that's the last thing holding me back from windows.    the realtime kernel might be the solution03:43
mefisto__BBLake: if you've installed ubuntustudio-desktop that should have installed an rt kernel03:43
mefisto__BBLake: eg, my default kernel displayed at the top of the grub menu is Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-21-rt03:45
mn2.6.24 is the newest in the repos right?03:46
BBLakehmm..not there...it doesn't show the -rt..maybe that is the problem with the boot-up...if ubuntu is looking for the realtime kernel03:46
BBLakehow can i upgrade to that kernel, and do you recommend it?03:46
juan-intrepida realtime kernel will not speed up boot and realtime kernels are lest test then the standard so i wouldnt recomend it03:47
mefisto__BBLake: sudo apt-get install linux-image-rt03:48
mefisto__BBLake: but if you installed ubuntustudio-desktop (or installed your system from the ubuntustudio cd) it should have installed the realtime kernel03:49
BBLakei did not...Again, i thought i was just downloading the theme....i have a standard ubuntu install, and have added (what i thought) was just flashy ubuntustudio wallpaper, and themes, and login etc.03:50
BBLakeperhaps my pc is just as confused as i am03:51
mefisto__BBLake: if you want ubuntustudio, you can sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop03:51
mefisto__BBLake: that will install lots of audio and video apps03:51
BBLakei have done that...and have the apps03:52
mefisto__BBLake: as well as the realtime kernel, of course03:52
BBLakei believe i have everything but the .rt kernel.03:52
BBLakehmmm, it says i have it when i ran the linux image-rt03:52
BBLakei guess i have it then03:53
BBLakeso, i'm going to try and reboot into the older kernel, see what happens.03:53
mefisto__BBLake: look at your grub menu: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst03:53
mnWhy can I not find OO.o-math??03:53
CoJaBo-EeeIs is possible to change the icons of items in Network Folders in Dolphin?03:54
BBLakei did, nothing says -rt.  perhaps a reboot will bring it up as an option.  It said already installed when i ran the command you pasted03:54
BBLakebut not showing in grub03:54
BBLakelinux-image-rt is already the newest version.03:55
mefisto__BBLake: something odd is going on. try installing with the --reinstall option: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-rt03:55
BBLakeok, it loaded i saw -rt...03:56
BBLakeit shouldbe in grub at this point?03:56
mefisto__BBLake: take a look: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst03:57
ubuntu_amigos, me pueden dar el enlace de Kubuntu español?03:58
BBLakeyep, the latest two have it, it was way down at th ebottom.  gonig to try and reboot to that kernel, then see if it resolves the issue03:58
BBLakeIf not, i may just wipe this hard drive, start from scratch...not sure where i went wrong, but i cannot handle a 12 minute boot03:58
mefisto__!es03:59
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:59
ubuntu_ubottu: thanks04:00
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)04:00
CoJaBo-EeeI can change it if I copy the link anywhere else, but in Network Folders it always shows a question mark.04:00
BBLakebrb..thanks mefisto....assuming this works anyway04:00
sidereal42ubottu: hello04:00
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:00
sidereal42ubottu: are you a bot?04:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot?04:01
CoJaBo-Eeelol04:02
mefisto__CoJaBo-Eee: right-click the items and go to properties. you should be able to change the icon by clicking the icon shown in properties04:02
CoJaBo-Eeemefisto__: That option shows up and lets me select one, but when the item is in Network Places it ignores the icon change and shows the question mark one instead.04:04
mefisto__CoJaBo-Eee: kde3? and have you changed the kde icon theme?04:05
CoJaBo-Eeemefisto__: KDE 4.104:06
mefisto__CoJaBo-Eee: looks like the icon theme that comes with kde4 is incomplete. you could try installing another one from kde-look.org or downloading extra icons for the default kde4 theme (oxygen)04:09
CoJaBo-EeeWould that fix it tho? It lest me select icons, just not when the item is in Network Places.04:10
mefisto__kde4 icons are here: /usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/ kde3 icons are here: /usr/share/icons/04:15
Wickedhello all. how can i force konqueror to always used the detailed view? when i look at a pick then hit back...it switches view to thumbnail04:16
BBLakeOK...i am convinced, some kernels take forever to boot....other kernels boot in 1 minute04:16
mefisto__CoJaBo-Eee: you could try symlinking the icons you want to use in kde4 from the kde3 locations04:16
BBLakeso the question is why?04:16
mefisto__BBLake: was the rt kernel slow to boot?04:16
BBLakeyes..brutal...04:17
BBLakeall of them are except for .14, and i have no idea why04:17
CoJaBo-Eeemefisto__: The problem isn't that I can't find the icons, it is that after I select them they aren't used if the item is in the Network Places folder.04:17
LeeJunFanomg, what a pain that was - just got alsa all setup with different mixers for amarok,notifications, and got amarok to play stereo mp3's out all 6 speakers.04:18
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mefisto__CoJaBo-Eee: what if you choose the icon by going through the "browse..." button and choosing a specific file?04:20
CoJaBo-Eeemefisto__: Same problem, it doesn't seem to matter what icon I choose. But if I copy the item out of network places, it changes fine.04:22
CoJaBo-EeeSeems like the Network Places folder is treated specially, and that breaks icon changing.04:23
isaac_is it possible in konqueror to do a split view with one being a konsole session?04:24
isaac_i swear i have dont somethign similar to it before04:25
mefisto__isaac_: I think it's F4. I don't know because my F4-F8 buttons don't work on this keyboard04:27
mefisto__isaac_: you can add a button for it on the toolbar (show terminal emulator)04:28
isaac_thats it!!04:29
isaac_thank you!04:29
mefisto__isaac_: you might want to try installing yakuake04:30
isaac_what is it?04:30
ubuntu_amigos, me dan el enlace de Kubuntu en español.04:30
mefisto__terminal app that pops down from top of the screen when you press F1204:30
isaac_ooo, im going to give it a try04:31
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seba__link spanish kubuntu irc please04:32
mefisto__!es04:32
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:32
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sidereal42!en04:39
ubottuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat04:39
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Kevin_So hi out there. I've got Ubuntu Server Edition installed on a headless box and I've installed the kde-core package onto it. I'm trying to keep my box free of excess software so I don't want to install the entire kde metapackage. How should I go about adding software to Ubuntu/KDE?04:42
favroKevin_: you can install what you like - I do that with fluxbox thunar mousepad etc04:49
Kevin_favro, ok thanks04:49
favroKevin_: you've got X working?04:49
Kevin_favro, well until about a minute ago I had X runnning and a VNC server working... then I changed some stuff and broke the whole thing >.<04:50
favroheh04:50
CoJaBolol04:50
Kevin_So if ive got a setup in which I ssh into my server and establish a tunnel, and then connect my vnc client to the established tunnel, would that appear to be a login from localhost (the server accessing "itself") or would that appear to be a remote login?04:54
favro!vnc | kevin this has a ssh vnc howto04:55
ubottukevin this has a ssh vnc howto: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX04:55
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seba___hello all please i need Kubuntu IRC spanish05:00
Kevin_favro, indeed I have read many guides on setting up a VNC server on my server, my objective is to login using kdm. I've also read many guides on that topic and had it configured until a moment ago when I decided to mess around with the configuration -_- I just wanted to know how kdm would see my connection through the vnc program.05:01
seba___hola necesito el link de kubuntu en espanol05:01
favroKevin_: I was under the impression you coudn't login through vnc05:02
seba___hola necesito el link de kubuntu en espanol05:02
favro!es05:02
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.05:02
Kevin_favro, it is very difficult to set up (it has nearly left me in tears a couple of times) but it is possible and, I hope, will be well worth it once I've worked the kinks out.05:03
favroKevin_: that would be nice info to share in a howto or blog :)05:04
Kevin_favro, I've been contemplating that... I hope to do so once I've got the process down and have a fully functional environment (the reason behind my first question)05:05
Kevin_favro, :D I just got things working again... now to see if disabling XDMRC or whatever will break em again ^_^05:06
favrohehe05:07
favrogood luck :)05:07
SkEmOi might go off suddlenly i must warn you, some transformers are esplodeing around the city05:11
SkEmOan no, no decepticons nor autobots -.-"05:12
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Kevin_favro, sure enough, that one little thing turns out to be all important.... well now I think I've got things secured a bit... all that's left is to install the bells and whistles :) I have the kde-core package installed right now, do you think you could recommend to me some other packages to install?05:15
favroKevin_: depends what you'll be using it for - a filmanager and yext editor would be handy05:18
favros/yext/text/05:18
Kevin_favro, got it. Ill look into things... hopefully I'll be able to get things done by saturday and after that, HOWTO time :) thanks for all your help :D cya05:19
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sidereal42is there any way to make bash's tab completion non-case-sensitive?06:21
sidereal42also to anyone here using irssi: any way to hide the join/leave messages?06:22
anom01yhi, I installed the tovid package, and I noticed it is not working because a critical program dependency is missing. The name of that program is makedvd, and I am not sure what package that is included with06:34
anom01yI also noticed that growisofs is not in the repositories..06:35
anom01ydoes anyone here use tovid ? and if so, how did you get it working ?06:35
ubuntu_!es06:46
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.06:46
SkEmOo.O06:46
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v6lurhi: when compiling ktt (kde tengwar tool), i get this error: "configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found"07:12
v6lurlibqt3-mt-dev and qt3-dev-tools are installed07:12
v6lurwhat else must i install?07:13
ocs(kubuntu 8.04 kde4) hi, for some reasons all the icons in the toolbar are compressed to the left side, and i can't restore the normal situation (in which their position is distribuited trhough the entire bar length.). What can i do? thnks07:25
favroocs: it's #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support :)07:28
Speedy2Hey all.  Has anyone else had issues running Kubuntu 8.04.1 in VirtualBox?07:30
Speedy2I googled and found others reporting this problem, but no real solutions.  I think I ran Kubuntu 8.04 in VBox without issues.07:31
Speedy2Host is Vista Home edition, CPU is AMD X207:37
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haiderhello09:44
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ActionParsnipyo yo yo10:19
alesHi all! I run gnome-do in KDE, but whenever I try to open a *.doc or *.pdf file (Files and folders plugin) nothing happens. Programs and other features work ok. What can I do?10:36
ActionParsnipales: do you have kpdf and open office installed10:37
alesActionParsnip: Hi, yes both10:37
ActionParsnipales: have you set default programs for each file type?10:38
alesActionParsnip: Yes, if I open them with konqueror there is no problem (just double-click and works)10:39
ActionParsnipales: ok so whats this gnome do malarky?10:40
ActionParsnipales: ive not seen that one10:40
ActionParsnipales: is it like katapult?10:41
alesActionParsnip: Yes, but better :)10:42
alesActionParsnip: really, it can index my folders - really useful10:42
ActionParsnipales: index folders?10:42
ActionParsnipdoesnt look bad, I use command line for modt of that stuff10:43
alesActionParsnip: In a way. It doesnt really index them, but it collects all folder and file names for easy access.10:43
alesActionParsnip: Similar to launchy - if you know it10:44
ActionParsnipales: not used it, sorry10:44
ActionParsnipales: you could try cd ~/; ls -a10:44
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ActionParsnipand renaming the .gnome-do folder (or similar)10:44
ActionParsnipThen rerun it10:45
alesActionParsnip: Oh, I understand what you mean.10:45
ActionParsnipthis will set your settings back to default10:45
fReAkY[t]how can I configure my desktop effects?10:45
ActionParsnipif its no good, just rename back10:45
alesActionParsnip: I'll try that, thanks10:45
fReAkY[t]i mean, configure them myself - what package do i have to install?10:45
ActionParsnip!compiz | fReAkY[t]10:45
ubottufReAkY[t]: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion10:45
ActionParsnipfReAkY[t]: I think you need ccsm10:46
ActionParsnipfReAkY[t]: but the folks in #compiz should be able to help10:46
fReAkY[t]ok thank you10:48
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ActionParsnipnp10:49
ActionParsnipi also sends folks there as i refuse to help compiz issues10:49
Linux_Galoreanyone know the candidate release date for 8.1010:51
Linux_Galoreie the first none alpha10:51
ActionParsnipLinux_Galore: the 30th October or therabots10:52
Linux_Galorethats the final release Im talking about the candidate10:53
ActionParsnipLinux_Galore: is hardy not working for you??10:53
Linux_Galoregot a brand new P45 rig10:53
ActionParsnipLinux_Galore: i dunno then, i only use official stuff10:54
Linux_GaloreI need the 2.26 kernel for the new southbridge10:54
ActionParsnipLinux_Galore: you could ask in #ubuntu+110:54
ActionParsnipLinux_Galore: you can compile it10:55
Linux_GaloreActionParsnip: will do10:55
ActionParsnipwww.kernel.org10:55
Linux_GaloreActionParsnip: I have a life10:55
ActionParsnipthen you must wait10:55
ActionParsnipi have a life too but dont mind compiling kernels10:56
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alx54can somebody plllzzzz help me for a sec? What does one mean by " I just add the png use flag in my make.conf."? Its on http://tinyurl.com/5rjxo6 and I have the same problem with amarokscreensaver not showing pictures.. they seem to have solved the problem I just dont understand how!? THankS!!11:08
ActionParsnipalx54: its just a script, you load it into the script manager afaik11:10
alx54<ActionParsnip> yeh I know, it just doesnt work =(11:11
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techbwhi all, is there a way for me to upgrade using kubuntu 8.04 DVD iso, I can't burn it as laptop does not have dvd rom, nor do I have floppies.11:13
techbwI am currently on 7.0411:13
ActionParsnip!upgrade | techbw11:14
ubottutechbw: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes11:14
techbwthanks checking it out now11:15
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techbwok I see it is not supported to upgrade direct from 7.04 to 8.04, then how could I do a complete fresh install from and iso image, I have searched online, but don't quite understand how to get it to boot from a usb removable drive, since the laptop too does not support usb boot option11:17
techbwno network boot either11:17
ActionParsniptechbw: sudo apt-get install upgrade-manager; kdesu upgrade-manager11:17
techbwok, but then I would have to upgrade via the internet, which I was trying to avoid since it is quite expensive (africa!!!)11:18
jussi01techbw: upgrade thru 7.10, then 8.0411:19
marcreichelthi there!11:20
marcreicheltI just updated the package gtk-qt-engine, and now all my GTK applications (Firefox, Thunderbird, GIMP) look horrible.11:20
techbwthere must be a way out there that I can install via my removable usb drive, only problem would be to get the computer to boot from it, there must be a small package that allows this, heard of one that does it, but can't seem to remember the name11:20
marcreicheltis this problem known, and what can I do to fix this?11:21
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stdintechbw: there is no package to give your computer the ability to boot from USB, it's down to the BIOS to have that ability11:21
marcreichelttechbw: I think you mean "syslinux"11:23
marcreicheltor maybe you mean http://klik.atekon.de/liveusb/11:24
stdinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick11:25
techbwI think that may be it11:25
juraje tu naky cech?11:25
TiredWolf!cz11:25
ubottuČeské uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.11:25
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marcreicheltdoes anybody have an idea about my problem with the gtk-qt-engine?11:39
wesley_!adeptfix11:52
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:52
marcreicheltwesley_: do you mean me? I have no problem with APT11:58
wesley_no was for myself11:58
marcreicheltk ;)11:58
wesley_i go irc on and just give a command11:58
guest71ciao12:02
guest73cordio gay12:05
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tom_short question as a linux newby:  You all know that if you put a link to an executable into the usr/bin path, it will be accessable form the shell...  is it possible to do the same thing in a directory within my home directory? since I dont have root rights...12:12
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freaky[t]how can i change my systems' language from german to english?12:17
tom_@freaky[t]  System Setttings - > Regional and Language12:18
roscoElo!12:23
freaky[t]tom_: are you sure that changes the language of the whole system? (also console apps)?12:23
laga_hello. what's a good semantic desktop solution for kde 3.5?12:26
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Dragnslcrtom_- you can add any directory you want to your PATH environment variable12:26
tom_Dragnslcr ahh thx.. where is the best place in kubuntu to do that, if I don't have root rights?12:28
DragnslcrNot sure offhand, but I'd guess that Google will have quite a few hits for setting the path environment variable12:29
tom_I would like to have some text file which would list all the directories which get added to the PATH variable when i log in to my account12:29
marcreichelttom_: you can choose any directory you want to12:30
marcreicheltI choose /home/<user>/bin for that12:30
tom_yope marcreichelt i figured that... Now i want to know where the best place would be to add these paths by default to my shell when i log in to my account12:31
tom_like a text file for example with all custom PATh directories which wouldbe called by the shell by default when logging in12:32
marcreicheltI would recommend the .bashrc12:32
tom_kk.. I'll ty that12:33
techbwis there a way to use a boot cd, to start an installation of another distro from hard drive?12:34
tom_thx marcreichelt.. seems to work12:35
techbwis what I asked actually possible for me to do?12:38
marcreichelttechbw: theoretically yes12:39
marcreicheltevery installation cd does nothing else than to start a simple Linux live system and then executes the installation program12:40
techbwhow would I be able to run the setup of ubuntu studio from my current installation12:41
techbwwhere is the installation executable located on the ubuntu disks?12:41
marcreicheltyou have an existing Ubuntu installed on your hard drive?12:41
techbwor should I ask is it an executable file that needs to be run ... to start the installation12:43
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marcreicheltthan you can just type "sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop"12:43
marcreicheltbut from your normal system, don't use a LiveCD for that12:44
techbwproblem is bandwidth is expesnive,,,I already have a DVD but my laptop does not have DVD rom12:45
marcreicheltah - you have the Ubuntustudio-DVD?12:45
techbwyeah ... ubuntustudio dvd12:46
techbwnow I can't install it, because I have no means to boot from DVD nor am I able to boot from usb12:46
marcreichelthmm, that is complicated - the easiest way to to that would be to buy or borrow a DVD rom12:46
techbwwould not help...can't boot from usb...lappie is a bit old12:47
marcreichelthehe, and you want to install _ubuntustudio_ on that? ;)12:47
techbwlol...you donm't think it will run???  I had 8.04 running on the lappie12:48
jussi01techbw: do you have another pc with a dvd-rom?12:48
techbwyes I do...was also thinking of taking hdd out of laptop....and installing on another pc...and just plug it back in to the laptop...have 2.5" ide convertor everything would this work12:48
jussi01techbw: you could try net boot.12:49
techbwcan't net boot...no network adapter...only wireless12:49
jussi01oh12:49
faemirAnyone know how the qt4 port of adept is coming along?12:49
faemirI mean, is it planned for 8.1012:50
jussi01faemir: Id ask in #kubuntu-kde4 or #kubuntu-devel12:50
faemirOkay, thanks12:50
techbwwould pcmcia network adapter work for netboot...the one I have is not supported by window$ might work on linux though have not tried12:50
jussi01techbw: just explain again what you have, then I can get a an idea...12:51
techbwbut would my option on removing the hdd and inserting in a desktop to install and then move the hdd back to laptop work?12:51
techbwI have a laptop, that does not have DVD rom, does not boot from usb and would like to install ubuntustudio on it12:51
marcreichelttechbw: buy a new laptop12:52
marcreichelt;)12:52
faemirGet an external drive?12:52
techbwi have external drive iso as well as iso extracted on it12:53
techbwi have a new laptop and it works fine12:53
techbwwith ubuntu 8.0412:53
jussi01techbw: ok, so what does the lappy have on it atm?12:53
techbwit has 7.04 and upgrading via internet would be out cos of the cost12:54
techbwfree in cost...but badwidth is expensive12:54
jussi01techbw: do you have an alternate cd for 7.10? (or can you get one?12:54
techbwno, I don't ... 8.04 cd though but not alternate12:54
techbwordered through shipit12:55
jussi01right.12:55
jussi01does the lappy have a cdrom?12:55
techbwyeah it does12:55
jussi01ok. I would install the 8.04 you have on it.12:55
techbwproblem 8.04 does not boot on lappie..works on othe desktop and laptop but not on this one12:55
jussi01ahhh12:56
jussi01hrm12:56
techbwlol12:56
techbw7.04 did the same..think I should write new disk at lower speed, cos that worked on 7.0412:56
techbwbut from 8.04 install how would I get ubuntustudio on?12:57
techbwif I can get 8.04 cd working by re-burning the disk12:57
TiredWolfsudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop i believe12:58
jussi01techbw: hrm, you could mount the iso of the studio dvd then add it as a repository, or just apt-get it (depending on bandwith cost)12:58
TiredWolfand then you probably have to switch to the realtime kernel manually12:58
jussi01TiredWolf: his banwidth costs loads...12:58
jussi01and the realtime would then be the first kernal on the list12:59
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techbwso mount iso apt-get cdrom?13:00
TiredWolfafraid not13:00
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TiredWolfat least, last time i tried, "apt-get cdrom" (is that even the right command?) ignored ISOs13:00
ghostcubejust get isomaster somehow and reedit the iso ?13:01
techbwdon't know never tried alternate cd before...so would have to search...but you say it does not detect iso images...so thats another thing to overcome13:01
techbwis there a way to split the iso into several disks like open suse had multiple disks at a stage13:02
TiredWolftechbw, well, try, i'm not 100% sure it doesn't. and if it doesn't, it's probably just a matter of adding the right line to sources.list anyway13:02
techbwok so I would then have to add the exact location on the iso to the repo13:02
techbw?13:03
TiredWolftechbw, what i would do is put any Ubuntu CD in the CD drive, do the adding, then look at the new line in sources.list and edit it13:03
techbwdeb /mount/cdrom/repos/file13:03
TiredWolfi don't remember what that line looks like13:03
TiredWolftechbw: not sure that works, but you could try (perhaps prepend file://)13:03
techbwaaahhh F*&&^ it will just load 8.04 on this machine...and ubuntu studio on the other lappie13:04
techbwwill try at a later time...just don't have the time right now13:04
techbweither that or donate lappie to under privilaged kid or somthing...frikken battery does not work on it so it's more a mobile pc now13:05
haiderhi13:07
techbwthanks for the help guys...will see at a later stage...when I have more time to look into ways to get it working...It's more a learning thing, than I really need to have it.  Testing out all the distros to see which I like more...Kubuntu seems to be my favourite at the moment. Don't like the look of gnome13:07
haiderhow can i make my web cam working ?13:07
login_oi13:08
login_alguem me ajuda a acessar o amsn??13:08
techbwcheers all, will be back later and try and do the install...first will try remove the laptop hdd and install in desktop as I already have conversion adapter to do it..then install on desktop and put it back in laptop...read a blog on how to do that a while back13:08
login_<cá>.13:08
techbwso hopefully that works, thanks again13:08
techbwcheers13:08
login_alguem me ajuda a acessar o amsn??13:09
jussi01!es13:10
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.13:10
hw_I want to make a script that ask me for a passwd on login. Are there any script API's or script GUI's for KDE?13:13
jussi01hw_: err, doesnt kde already do that?13:15
hw_jussi01: I want to use this for mount cmd without putting my passwd into /etc/fstab13:16
hw_Are there GUI's for the mount cmd?13:16
jussi01hw_: its easier just to put you password into an encrpyted file which the fstab checks13:17
jussi01hw_: see this page: http://anothersysadmin.wordpress.com/2007/12/17/howto-mount-samba-shares-in-fstab-using-a-credential-file/13:17
hw_jussi01: In this case I need a passphrase to de-crypt13:17
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hw_jussi01: In case you're interessed: kdialog is useful... =)13:33
TiredWolfoh yes it is13:35
ActionParsnip1yo yo yo13:39
weylandi try to use an application that has to use port 5140. is it possible that this port cannot be used or that another application is using it? and how can i find that out?13:43
ActionParsnip1weyland: netstat13:43
ActionParsnip1weyland: will show whats using it13:43
ActionParsnip1weyland: Port 5140 is not assigned by IANA13:44
weylandit seems that port 5140 is not used at the moment. is it possible that this port cannot be used by certain applications or do i need rights to use it or could it be blocked?13:46
ActionParsnip1weyland: you can use port 5140 as IANA has not assigned it to a protocol (e.g.FTP = port 21)13:47
ActionParsnip1so you can run the app and it will use the designated bort, you can probably reconfigure it to use a different port if you wish13:48
weylandthen it seems that my problem has nothing to do with ports13:49
weylandthx for your help13:49
ActionParsnip1weyland: np man13:49
ActionParsnip1weyland: you can use any port number from about 1000 to 3762413:50
ActionParsnip1(or max_int ;))13:50
weylandActionParsnip1: well the problem is, that i want to use the netbeans profiler and it seems it cannot connect to the java vm. the profiler uses port 5140 nad i thought it is perhaps a problem with the port. that it is blocked in some way or anything like that. unfortunately i do not have any networking experiences with linux...13:52
weylandActionParsnip1: Is it possible that iptables blocks communication over this port?13:53
ActionParsnip1do you run firestarter or anything like that?13:53
weylandfirestarter? i do not know that application. i got this completely configured computer from our system admin...13:55
ActionParsnip1its a firewall frontend to iptables13:57
ActionParsnip1you should be able to connect to the port if its running13:57
weylandit is not running13:58
ActionParsnip1run the app then run netstat in konsole13:58
weylandand ip tables rules accept everything afai can see13:58
weylandhow can i figure out if a firewall is running? perhaps the sys admin has installed one on my system...13:59
ActionParsnip1if you havent installed one yu dont have it13:59
ActionParsnip1dpkg -l | grep fire13:59
weylandufw is installed, but it is not loaded14:00
weyland...says "ufw status"14:00
Matysholas14:01
Matyshay alguno buena onda que me pueda responder alguna duda ?14:02
jussi01!es14:02
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.14:02
ActionParsnip1hi jussi0114:02
jussi01hey ActionParsnip114:02
avihaybis purge in apt-get the same thing as remove compleatly in synaptic? or in other words, dose it remove the settings too?14:07
Piciavihayb: It removes all settings that are not in your users home directory.  Those are never touched (by either process).14:07
avihaybPici: thanks for the clarification14:08
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xompI need to read a .chm file, I've used xchm? in the past but don't know what KDE has to offer in terms of software for it. Can someone help?14:10
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ActionParsnip1xomp: how about http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-chm-files-to-html-or-pdf-files.html14:12
Dragonathhow do I find out if I have i686 architecture?14:13
PiciDragonath: uname -a14:13
Dragonathah thanks14:14
ActionParsnip1xomp: is that ok or would you rather not convert?14:16
avihaybwhere can I see battery data on a laptop? I preffer comand line.14:19
ActionParsnip1avihayb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36797814:21
avihaybActionParsnip1: thanks for bothering for me. damn, this thing dosn't work right14:23
ActionParsnip1avihayb: in what way?14:23
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avihaybwell, I first ran sudo acpi -b. no opuput14:23
ActionParsnip1avihayb: have you disabled acpi in grub14:24
avihayb*output14:24
avihaybno, I havn't14:24
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avihaybthen I run acpi, without sudo, and it showed the status, wrong as it may be14:24
avihaybnow, I can't get it to show anything... :-<14:24
ActionParsnip1avihayb:  cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT*/state14:25
ActionParsnip1try that14:25
ActionParsnip1it may need sudo but try it as you first14:25
avihayboh, that's more like what i've been looking for14:26
ecarmonaHi! Guys! I switched to intrepid yesterday and it's not usable.... my desktop doesn't even start14:26
ActionParsnip1!intrepid | ecarmona14:26
ubottuecarmona: Alpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!14:26
ActionParsnip1ecarmona: its not released and considered broken14:26
ecarmonaoh, ok.... let me go there14:26
ecarmonathanks guys!14:27
ActionParsnip1ecarmona: did hady not work for you?14:27
ActionParsnip1*hardy14:27
ecarmonaoh, I was OK with hardy.... I just wanted to test intrepid as it was getting close to beta14:28
avihaybwell, designe capacity is 1297mAh, last full capacity 12305mAh .....14:28
ecarmonamaybe I just jumped in too soon. :-)14:28
weylandit's me again. i advanced one step further. the application i tried to run uses a library in my home directory. this directory is network mounted and if i move the library to another place it works. but is it possible to change the attributes of the network mount to make it run without this workaround?14:28
ActionParsnip1ecarmona: when its ready your system will update you14:28
ActionParsnip1weyland: id contact the devs14:29
weylandweyland: what do you mean? i just want to alter my nfs mount, so that the library can be used without moving...14:30
weylandomg14:30
avihaybActionParsnip1: well, they dis say that the battery detection for this model is more or less broken. I was hoping though...14:30
weylandi replied to myself ;)14:30
avihaybdis->did14:30
ActionParsnip1avihayb: then i guess you're gonna have to keep an eye out, does the second command i gave you not fly?14:31
weylandActionParsnip1: what do you mean? i just want to alter my nfs mount, so that the library can be used without moving...14:32
avihaybwell, I can get all the data I want from the proc library, just didn't know that the batery was under acpi. problem is the data is false14:32
ActionParsnip1weyland: then mount the folder differently14:32
weylandis it possible to do a nfs mount allowing files to be executed?14:32
ActionParsnip1weyland: yes you need to add some uIDS to the mount to allow users write access (If i understand you right)14:33
avihaybworking on battery power, and cat state shows : present:                 no14:33
ActionParsnip1avihayb: maybe a bios update would help (risky)14:34
icelabhi. konqueror drive me crax14:36
icelabcrazy14:36
icelabanyone use it to see flash film like youtube?14:36
ocshi. i did something wrong with the bottom panel bar. Is there a way to easily restore it to default values ?14:36
icelabwhat kinds of problem ocs?14:38
avihaybActionParsnip1: I found a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/147560 I guess it's not a bios issue. it's with this entire MSI family. suspend recovery halts the computer too14:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 147560 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Kernel detects battery management wrong (MSI PR200 / System76)" [Undecided,Won't fix]14:39
avihaybthank you ubuntu bot14:39
ocsall the icons are moved to the left, i don't see anymore the clock, i don't see anymore applications reduced to icons... etc.14:39
avihaybMSI is showing some lack of intrest in linux in they're website...14:39
weylandi do not get it working on my own :( can anyone help me to alter my network mount so that it allows execution of files? command so far is (salvia.idsia.supsi.ch:/data/homes       /home   nfs     rsize=8192,wsize=8192,user      0       0)14:40
* genii puts on a fresh pot of coffee14:40
geniiocs: This is KDE 4?14:41
ocsgenii: yes14:41
ocsgenii: i've restored plasma-appletsrc. let's try14:42
toborHi all just installed K-Heron.  What is the reccomended package management tool for this release? the apt[-get -cache] command, or aptitude or something else ?14:43
ActionParsnip1weyland: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo14:44
ActionParsnip1tobor: same as always, apt-get aptitude or synaptic14:44
toborActionParsnip1: thanks for the confirmation.  I never liketo assume... :-D14:44
tobor!info meta14:45
ubottuPackage meta does not exist in hardy14:45
ActionParsnip1tobor: try what you know, if it doesnt work, get online14:45
ActionParsnip1!metapackage | tobor14:45
ubottutobor: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.14:45
toborActionParsnip1: I never meta a metapackage......14:45
icelabocs have resolve the problem?14:46
ActionParsnip1hahaha14:46
toborSorry - couldnt resist.14:46
toborI seem to be in pun mode this morning, perhaps I better avoid all human contact 'till the coffee hits14:46
ActionParsnip1tobor: try the command man woman14:47
toborActionParsnip1: do you know if there is a list of the metapackages anywahere?14:47
toborActionParsnip1: I'm married, i know you can't command woman....14:47
ActionParsnip1tobor: not sure, surely you only want to install what you are going to use14:47
tobor:-)14:47
ActionParsnip1open office is a metapackage14:47
toborActionParsnip1: Yes, but I use a lot of stuff.14:48
ActionParsnip1!info openoffice.or14:48
ubottuPackage openoffice.or does not exist in hardy14:48
ActionParsnip1!info openoffice.org14:48
ubottuopenoffice.org (source: openoffice.org): OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 4 kB, installed size 44 kB14:48
toborLike iwant a couple different toolchains, yes OOo, par, expect, and on and on.14:48
ActionParsnip144Kb !!! :D14:48
ActionParsnip1tobor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages14:49
toborI notice there is a firefox meta package, How can I check if that uses FF2 or FF3 ?14:50
toborActionParsnip1: many thanks!14:50
ActionParsnip1tobor: no idea man, sorry14:50
icelabhi do any use konqueror to see a flash file the kind post on you tube?14:51
eclixwhat is default pass for root?14:51
icelabsorry but he drive mme crazy14:51
genii!root | eclix14:52
ubottueclix: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo14:52
toborActionParsnip1: s'allright, grateful fo your help. :-)14:52
ActionParsnip1np man14:52
ActionParsnip1help where you can14:52
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ActionParsnip1filipesr:  : you can improve security by setting it. but any account that is a member of Admin can sudo commands to act as root, this improves security14:53
ActionParsnip1filipesr: idiot who log in to do daily tasks deserve all the problems they get14:54
filipesrhunf, the auto login in activate and the store dont send the root pass (sorry, im brasiliam boy with bad english)14:55
ActionParsnip1filipesr: so your autologin doesnt work?14:56
amerigoHello everybody....14:56
ActionParsnip1filipesr: http://linux.about.com/od/kubuntu_doc/a/kubudg35t03.htm14:56
ActionParsnip1hi amerigo14:56
amerigoI got a problem ... I'd like to share i ntenet folder in al Mixed LAn (kubuntu; windows pro; windows home) from the linux14:58
amerigobut I don't know how...14:58
ActionParsnip1!samba | amerigo14:58
ubottuamerigo: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.14:58
ActionParsnip1amerigo: if you right click a folder in konqueror yu can share it that way14:58
filipesrtks ActionParship114:58
amerigoahi samba...14:59
ActionParsnip1amerigo: samba itself is simple to configure but people like a clicky gui14:59
amerigoi have just modified smb.conf14:59
ActionParsnip1amerigo: then thats all yuo need to know14:59
amerigoi have set workgroup = mine14:59
ActionParsnip1amerigo: share folders all you wish14:59
ActionParsnip1amerigo: id websearch for samba tutorials15:00
ActionParsnip1i gotta split15:00
amerigoAction....15:01
amerigotoo action .... you bounched me out15:01
filipesrexit15:02
noaXesshey all15:09
noaXessanybody have a tip to get my mp3 player work, can't connect it.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/47201/15:10
arkygeekhi all15:11
arkygeekI have a GeForce 7300 and gogle earth is really really slow even after diabling atmosphere.  glxgears is, in fact, only giving me abgout 50 FPS as well.....15:11
arkygeekany suggestions?15:11
arkygeekoh, and desktop effects work fine (kde4)15:11
ocsi messed up the kde4 bottom panel, and i dunno how to restore it to default ( = installation) values. I tried to  remove .kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc but without results. what should i do ?15:12
KRFarkygeek, installed restricted drivers?15:12
arkygeeknvidia-glx-new-envy15:12
arkygeekKRF: although, i must say, I did have the nvidia drivers installed before.  maybe they apt-get install didn't replace them?  how can I tell?15:13
KRFarkygeek, try lsmod | grep nvidia15:13
KRFif it returns sth, restricted drivers are loaded15:13
arkygeekhttp://rafb.net/p/tNBZSe67.html15:18
arkygeekKRF: ^^15:18
arkygeekKRF: looks like it is still the nvidia drivers15:18
KRFarkygeek, no. these are the restricted15:18
arkygeekoh15:19
arkygeekok15:19
arkygeekKRF: so what now then? :s15:19
KRFarkygeek, `glxinfo | grep -i rendering` to check if opengl is enabled15:20
KRFyou may have to install meta-utils15:20
KRF41268 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8253.473 FPS for me :)15:20
arkygeekdirect rendering: Yes15:21
KRFmh, weird that glxgears is so fucked up then :/15:21
arkygeekKRF: meta-utils?15:21
KRFoh, when compiz is enabled there are some problems with glxgears afaik15:22
arkygeekKRF: might that affect google earth then?15:22
KRFarkygeek, and google earth is slow for me, too. when enabling atmosphere and stuff (nv 8600M GT)15:22
KRFarkygeek, possible15:22
KRFtry without effects15:22
g33k_gir2i need help getting java to work in Firefox. I've looked at !java, followed all the instructions, installed IcedTea and openJDK, and the icedtea plugin, and still, I am not able to get java working in FF.15:25
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arkygeekKRF: hmmmm it seems that not only is desktop effects running, but also compizconfig settings manager15:29
CANTVbye15:29
arkygeeki disabled desktop effects and still have wobbly windows :s15:29
KRFhehe15:29
arkygeekKRF: how do i fix this?15:29
arkygeekurffff15:29
g33k_gir2join #ubuntu15:32
noaXessare the pre-released updates some updates that are not really tested?15:33
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avihaybActionParsnip1: it seems like the KDE battery monitor is better aware of what is going on with the battery15:36
arkygeekKRF: i installed compiz-switch, shut it off and ::: 23604 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4720.616 FPS15:38
avihaybby KDE i mean KDE415:39
arkygeekKRF: but GE is still painfully slow15:39
killa_any sollutions for choppy flash in firefox 3 - ubuntu 8.04 - cpu is plenty capable15:40
KRFarkygeek, try to tweek settings, you cant put them too high15:40
killa_solutions*15:40
KRFmaybe you enabled anti aliasing or sth15:40
jussi01avihayb: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 :)15:40
KRF4,7k fps are quite good ;)15:40
avihaybthanks, but I wasn't looking for any15:41
arkygeekanti aliasing and sth - where do i check to see if they are enabled?15:41
arkygeekKRF: in GE?15:41
KRFarkygeek, yeah15:42
avihaybthe problem is that kde dosn't tell me the right info about the battery15:42
KRFge works quite well for me, maybe remove ~/.googleearth dir :)15:42
KRFto start from scratch15:42
arkygeekok15:42
arkygeekKRF: nope.  that did nothing for speed.  although i did have to re enter my activation info :P15:46
arkygeekhmmmm this is strange too... the menus are corrupted for a second or so when i press them15:47
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Deniseyep15:52
Denisemines too15:52
Denisemy console is sick15:52
rogerioola15:58
noaXesswhat that mean hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT if i connect my mp3 player.. see more here http://paste.ubuntu.com/47201/16:10
noaXessi found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/231664 but there is only kernel 2.6.27 for intrepid16:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 231664 in linux "Various error with USB devices in Ubuntu Hardy" [Undecided,New]16:11
chakiewas there some nice way to install the nvidia drivers after a system installation?16:15
chakiei just added an nvidia card and currently use the vesa drivers16:16
PolitikerNEUenvyng16:16
chakie"K -> System -> Hardware drivers" is empty16:16
chakiehardy, btw16:16
chakieno, intrepid beta. sorry16:16
PolitikerNEUI'm using intrepid too, but I installed the nvidia driver using envyng -t (sudo aptitude install envyng-core) (envyng-gtk doesn't work), I couldn't instally nvidia drivers using the Driver Managment tool either (For me, however, the drivers were shown but after the installation the x-server crashed)16:19
user6! samba16:19
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.16:19
haruasd16:21
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Deniseblabla16:25
Salitos_Heinz_http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/4378754/16:33
venikThe little WORK sign, indicating updates to installed software-- where does it show up in KDE4.1.1?16:37
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rogerio_portugues channel pls16:51
SeanTaterI'm installing Kubuntu and it says -> Device for boot loader installation [ (hd0) ] <- I only have one hard disk, "sda", (no hda) so it will install on the correct one, right?16:53
SeanTater!portuguese16:53
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt por ajuda em português. Obrigado.16:53
SeanTaterrogerio_: ^^^16:53
PiciSeanTater: Yes, Grub refers to the disks as hd# even though fstab refers to them as sdX#16:53
SeanTaterPici: Thanks! I thought that was how it worked, but I just wanted to check.16:54
rogerio_sean what's the problem16:54
lesergihow can I read mdb files from Ubuntu. Openoffice.org does not work and Kexi crash when I tried open it. Thanks!16:55
SeanTaterrogerio_: I think I missed part of the converstion (I came in just a second ago), and I thought you asked for that factoid (sorry)16:55
SeanTaterlesergi: there are a bunch of tools for that in the package "mdb-tools"16:55
chakiePolitikerNEU: ah, envyng was the driver :)16:56
SeanTaterlesergi: I think kexi-kde4 can use them fairly well, but exporting using mdb-export may be easier, I don't know16:56
chakiePolitikerNEU: i thought you had a cat on your keyboard...16:56
lesergiSeanTater: mdb-export? from mdb-tools?16:58
PolitikerNEUoh, sorry - now, envyng is a tool to install a driver16:59
SeanTaterlesergi: exactly16:59
SeanTaterlesergi: I'm no expert (I use mdb files mostly through ActiveX Data Objects on Windows, not on Linux)16:59
lesergiSeanTater: I've seen mdb-export can export into csv file, after I can convert it in odb17:00
SeanTaterlesergi: that's what I was thinking. I'm not sure how to get back to mdb though..17:02
chakiePolitikerNEU: installation went ok at least, lets see what it did to my xorg.conf17:03
lesergiSeanTater: Thanks a lot! I've done with:"mdb-export DB.mdb $(mdb-tables DB.mdb) > DB.csv"17:04
chakielooks ok, lets reboot17:04
SeanTaterlesergi: You're welcome. I'm glad I could help.17:05
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corinthI had a problem with my Kubuntu Hardy CD, so I installed Ubuntu using its CD, then installed Kubuntu through sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop. I then followed the instructions at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde to remove Ubuntu (Gnome). Now, firefox and other gtk apps are ugly. What packages do I need to install at a minimum to fix this?17:11
jussi01corinth: this excerpt from a recent mailing list discussion may help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/47498/17:17
geniicorinth: gtk-qt-engine ( gtk-qt-engine-kde4 for kde4 )may help, tries to enforce qt styles and themes on gtk apps17:19
jussi01genii: Id suggest reading that pastebin...17:20
geniijussi01: Looking now17:21
* genii pins his gtk-qt-engine17:22
vassiliну здарова чуваки17:23
chakiePolitikerNEU: envy worked nicely, thank you!17:24
oilinki3hi. do you know what is wrong when suddently I can not move the windows on kubuntu?17:25
DigitalTanhaim trying to copy a drive from a local computer to a remote computer with ssh. I want to send the drive as a single file compressed how can I do this?17:25
oilinki3I mean I lost the 'outern window' of the windows17:25
jussi01oilinki3: are you using compiz?17:26
oilinki3jussi01: not as far as I know17:26
oilinki3jussi01: it seems to be installed.17:27
jussi01oilinki3: try pressing alt+f2 and: kwin --replace17:27
DigitalTanhaI found    tar czv ListOfFiles | ssh remote.box.com tar xz -C /home/user/PathToCopy    but that doesnt keep it compressed, how can I alter this to keep 1 compressed file17:27
jussi01DigitalTanha: are you in a graphical environment?17:27
oilinki3jussi01: alt+f2 doesn't do anything17:28
jussi01DigitalTanha: if so, open konqueror, and use sftp://address-of-sshmachine17:28
jussi01oilinki3: err, ok, try going to the menu -> run command17:29
oilinki3jussi01: ah. I can open an shell :)17:29
oilinki3jussi01: kwin --replace did the trick. Thank you!17:30
jussi01oilinki3: hrm... what happens when you close the shell ( maybe it will crash?)17:30
oilinki3jussi01: the kwin --replace stays as foreground process. and when I stop it. the 'surroundings' will get lost again17:31
ghostcubeoilinki3: alt + mosue 1 and u always can drag windows17:31
ghostcubekwin --replace & disown in terminal17:32
jussi01oilinki3: so use the run command in the k menu...17:32
oilinki3jussi01: do you know how to make an permanent fix or what is causing this one?17:33
oilinki3I try removing the desktop-effects17:34
jussi01oilinki3: it should be fine once you run it through the run command dialogue17:35
oilinki3jussi01: well. that will do the trick for now. thanks.17:37
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oilinki3ghostcube: thanks for the info as well.17:42
ghostcubeoilinki3: what grafic adapter17:43
ghostcubenvidia ?17:43
ghostcubepls join #compiz-fusion17:43
oilinki3ghostcube: on the board.  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0217:44
ghostcubeoilinki3: this shoudlk work fine with decos ure missig anything thats all17:44
pteague_workanybody know if there's a way to get gkrellm to act like a normal panel?17:44
ghostcubejust step to #compiz-fusion17:44
jarlaxlehi all17:52
faemirAnyone know why on the new user I created tab completion is broken?18:04
CANTVgringos maricos18:07
CANTVyou tube18:08
saylorsa tu jacys polacy ?18:10
andriijasi have a laptop and sound works great in the laptop speakers, but when i plug in headphones the sound remain in the laptop speakers. any idea?18:12
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NEo-Shadow02hi18:30
NEo-Shadow02einmal eine frage in die runde werfe18:30
genii!de18:30
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:30
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NEo-Shadow02hat jemand von euch schon mal ut2004 von unreal anthology installiert?18:31
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NeatFireshi18:54
NeatFiresusing kubuntu 8.04. I wonder if there's a way to make a custom key combination to do the same as the special "volume up/down" buttons. ie, display the OSD with the new volume and increase or decrease it18:54
NeatFiresmy keyboard just doesn't have these special buttons18:54
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geniiNeatFires: "Input Actions - DCOP" section of https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys19:01
NeatFiresgenii: thanks19:04
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chakiewas it so that kde 4.1.1 (intrepid beta) did not have any keyboard shortcuts at all?19:10
chakiei particularly miss those for changing virtual desktops19:10
jarlaxleinteresting concept with widgets i think :)19:11
jarlaxleand yes i can't find shortcuts to :)19:11
patientfoxdoes anyone here know how to add amarok 2 packages to kubuntu?19:13
patientfoxis there a source available with the beta packages?19:13
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ign0ramuspatientfox: http://amarok.kde.org/de/node/48519:15
patientfoxign0ramus: i'm using the intrepid alpha 5 install.. should i keep it hardy?19:16
patientfoxor change to intrepid?19:16
ign0ramuspatientfox: not sure if they have an intrepid repo....19:16
NeatFiresgenii: two problems: it doesn't work with ctrl-f9 or ctrl-f10 and it doesn't display OSD19:17
jaggulihi all im using kmail for accessing gmail with pop... i keep getting the certificate confirmation box all the time .. is there any solution to this19:22
geniiNeatFires: Hmm. No other offhand ideas right now except posssibly to use the first part of that article to find keycodes of particular combinations and add them to the xmodmap. For the OSD I'm not sure however.19:23
Denisesounds goood here19:33
Denisejesusok19:36
Denisebye19:36
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NeatFiresgenii: all right, ctrl-f10 works (it was used by some other shortcut). now what to do with the OSD...19:40
chakiewas this "phonon" thing configurable at all?19:47
chakieit does zip and nada for me right now19:47
sum_hi.. someone can tell me if the new versione of vlc will be on the ubuntu's repository?19:52
CANTVUbuntu-ar-Cafe - charla OT (Off Topic) - Respetá al CoC -  RESPETÁ A LOS DEMÁS, Respetá a los demás usuarios - NO hagas flood: pega tu texto aquí -> http://rafb.net/paste/ - sé feliz :)19:53
spyksalut19:55
chakiedarn crap intel chips on this motherboard. no audio is working19:56
chakiedoes anything intel makes for linux actually work?19:56
jarlaxleyep :)19:57
spykhello19:57
jarlaxlemicroprocessors :D19:57
thefishhi spyk19:57
spykI look about instal my wifi card, should we help me ?19:57
spyki'm noob ;)19:57
KRF!fr | spyk19:58
ubottuspyk: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr19:58
spyklol19:58
spykthx ;)19:58
peepsalotwhat is the name of the default archive extracting gui for kubuntu?20:04
Tm_Tark?20:04
Tm_T!ark20:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ark20:05
Tm_Thmh20:05
peepsalotok, thanks, i will try that20:05
chakiemy intrepid has totally lost its voice, it refuses to utter even a sound :)20:06
Pici!ibex20:07
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!20:07
peepsalothmm, ark is loading very slowly.  looks like it is trying to display the full expanded file tree, is there a way to disable this?20:07
Picichakie: aka: #ubuntu+1 :)20:07
peepsalotit appears to be hung20:07
chakiePici: aha, thanks20:07
chakiei should not have installed it, but hardy knew nothing about my intel gfx chip20:09
peepsalotgot a message from ark when attempting to extract: "Could not start a subprocess"20:10
geniipeepsalot: Probably because you don't have the backend program for whatever format you are trying to extract20:11
geniirar zip or some other proprietary thing likely20:11
peepsalotgenii, it's a zip file, i have zip and unzip packages installed20:12
peepsalotit views the files in the archive, but when I go to extract i get that message20:12
KRFpeepsalot, ark is very broken imo. thats rather normal :P20:12
* peepsalot sighs. "just as broken as file-roller"20:13
peepsalotback to the command line for me I guess20:13
KRFyep20:13
peepsaloti just hate having to memorize all these damn switches, or reading a man file every time i want to extract something20:14
KRFpeepsalot, use zsh20:14
KRFyou type unrar <tab> and shows you all the stuff ;)20:14
KRFand it*20:14
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peepsalotthe thing i don't get about these gui apps, if they are just front ends for the command line apps, how can they fail so often at extracting what a simple call to the command line succeeds at.20:18
peepsalot"unzip filename.zip"  works fine, where file-roller and ark failed20:18
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peepsalotwish there was a gui for 7zip like the one in windows.  best archiver i've ever used.20:21
nprestapeepsalot: ark can open 7zip files, IIRC, and has a GUI20:22
ign0ramusNickPresta: you are correct20:23
nprestaign0ramus: =)20:23
peepsalotexcept ark doesn't work: see above.  i don't specifically need it for 7z files, the 7z gui for windows supports all archive formats, and has never failed me20:24
ign0ramuspeepsalot: do you have an example of a .zip you can't open with ark?20:24
ign0ramuspeepsalot: i've never had a problem, unless an archive was encrypted... then sometimes Ark would have trouble20:25
peepsalotit's company info, i can't share.  also it's 70MB20:25
nprestapeepsalot: I just got here. What doesn't work with ark?20:25
peepsalotthe zip has a ton of tiny files in it, i wonder if there is some limit like 32k or something where ark barfs20:25
nprestapeepsalot: try unzipping it from the terminal and see the output20:26
ign0ramuspeepsalot: not to my knowledge...20:26
ign0ramuspeepsalot: is there a smaller .zip you've had problems with?20:26
peepsalotnpresta, ah, sorry.   "got a message from ark when attempting to extract: "Could not start a subprocess""20:26
nprestapeepsalot: you opened up ark and tried the extra tool, right? try right clicking and do "extract here"20:27
peepsalotign0ramus, i've had various issues in the past where i had to resort to command line.  I actually use gnome normally, which comes with file-roller for gui archive app.  I figured i'd try ark, but both of them appear to have problems20:27
ign0ramuspeepsalot: you'll get that error with ark unless you have 'kubuntu-desktop' package installed20:27
peepsaloti dont' recall the archives in the past that have been problematic20:28
geniipeepsalot: Try just right-click on archive name without opening it then "Extract here"20:28
peepsalotign0ramus, ah, ok20:28
ign0ramushttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/4370120:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 43701 in kdeutils "Ark drag and drop broken if kubuntu-desktop not installed" [Wishlist,Confirmed]20:28
nprestahey genii20:28
geniinpresta: Hiya :)  <hands you a coffee>20:29
nprestathanks. I'm in the lab today. I need it.20:29
peepsalotgenii, hmm, yes that appears to work ok20:29
geniipeepsalot: When you have the file already open by looking at the contents, it won't be able to do operations on it at the same time20:30
ign0ramuspeepsalot: also, you can run the windows version of 7zip or Winrar in Wine.  I sometimes use Winrar just for encryption purposes- it seems to work 100% every time20:30
peepsalotgenii, um, so are you saying it's impossible to have a functioning gui archive app under linux?20:31
peepsaloti mean, that's what the apps are supposed to do right: displays the contents and extract them at the same time.20:33
nprestapeepsalot: You could always write your own if you're unhappy with what is available. The freedom of choice and such... ;)20:33
ign0ramuspeepsalot: you should be able to view the files in Ark, and then click the "extract" icon (arrow pointing up), and specify where you want to extract20:35
ign0ramuspeepsalot: try it with this small file http://kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=89428&id=1&tan=1255352120:36
peepsalotign0ramus, it works with that file, and I still haven't installed kubuntu-desktop20:39
ign0ramuspeepsalot: you may not have to install... it seems like it was a drag n drop error with ark, but you may want that functionality as well20:40
ign0ramuspeepsalot: it does return the same error you got, though20:40
nprestawell, I'm off to class. Later all.20:43
ign0ramustake it easy :)20:43
npresta:)20:43
venikThe little WORK sign, indicating updates to installed software-- where does it show up in KDE4.1.1?20:45
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CarlaHey, what applications are available on kubuntu for programming purposes (Java, C/C++, etc)20:51
Tm_T!IDE20:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ide20:51
Tm_Tbah20:51
Daisuke_Ido!ide20:51
Daisuke_Idomeh :(20:51
Daisuke_Idoit used to20:52
Daisuke_Idoanjuta, eclipse, kdevelop20:52
Tm_T!code20:52
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, netbeans, pida20:52
Tm_TKate <320:52
Carlathanks Tm20:54
toborHi all, whats the best media player and the best codec package for Kubuntu * ?21:02
toboreg "  most formats supported "21:02
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ign0ramustobor:  !codecs and download vlc21:06
ign0ramus!codecs21:07
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:07
sevenseekercan I 'fake' install a package?  IOW, I installed from source a later version but now want to ensure the package dependencies are met21:09
mar77isevenseeker, when you install from source, then configure takes care of that21:10
sevenseekeroh, so dpkg checks pkg-config files?21:11
ign0ramussevenseeker: yes- it wouldn't compile unless it had met all dependencies21:12
sevenseekeroh I see, I didn't make myself clear :)21:12
sevenseekerI want this software to show up as being installed per the respective packages for other packages that depend on it21:12
ign0ramussevenseeker: doesn't it?  are you installing via apt or compiling from sources?21:13
mar77isevenseeker, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-source-files-in-ubuntu.html ./configure will take care of that21:13
sevenseekerthis isn't from a source package21:13
ign0ramussevenseeker: so you are saying that because you compiled a package, now a new package is showing that it is not installed (ie, an unmet dependency)?21:14
ign0ramussevenseeker: if it were a source package, you can just point the compiler to where the depency resides, but i believe that even with apt, it should still recognize the dependency, even if it were compiled from sources21:15
sevenseekerno, rather say the package is for version 1.1 and I want version 1.5 so I install from source.  However, I want packages that depend on >=1.1 to show that the original 1.1 package was installed.21:15
ign0ramussevenseeker: if i'm not mistaken, it should see and recognize your 1.5 install21:16
sevenseekerhmmm, that is interesting, I didn't realize apt was so robust (good to know)21:16
sevenseekerawesome in fact21:16
ign0ramussevenseeker: does it not?  have you tried, or just asking a theoretical question?21:16
sevenseekerI am going to try later, just wanted to make sure the system behaved after that21:16
ign0ramussevenseeker: do you use checkinstall after compiling (instead on 'make install')?21:17
sevenseekerone instance isn't even compiling at all, it is installing a python lib (python-setuptools)21:17
sevenseekerahhh, ok, I will run checkinstall21:17
ign0ramussevenseeker: it will create a debian package for you and can be uninstalled like an program installed via apt21:17
ign0ramus'sudo checkinstall -D'21:17
sevenseekerI have been running make install21:17
ign0ramusyou have to install package 'checkinstall'21:18
ign0ramus!checkinstall21:18
ubottucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!21:18
sevenseekerdoes checkinstall honor the version of the install?21:19
ign0ramussevenseeker: afaik, yes... it retains all meta-data acquired during the ./configure process21:19
sevenseekervery handy21:19
sevenseekerI love open source :)21:20
ign0ramusindeed! :)21:20
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sevenseekerin the case of a Python package manually installed (easy_install or through python setup.py install) how would I go about this?21:21
ign0ramussudo checkinstall python setup.py21:22
ign0ramus... i *think*21:22
ign0ramussevenseeker: not sure if i've done that one before; good question! xD21:23
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bleakedso in ibex, will i be forced to use kde4 or will 3 still be available?  (though some of it is nice.. i really think a lot of it is rather ugly and still lacks a lot of functionality that 3 has achieved)21:25
sevenseekerok, I am researching this more indepth now, I appreciate the input21:27
ign0ramusnp21:27
hansen_Hello!!!21:28
hansen_new user en gnewsense21:29
hansen_help!!21:29
ign0ramus!ask | hansen_21:29
ubottuhansen_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)21:29
hansen_Ok sorry :(:(21:30
hansen_No speak Spanish :D21:30
ign0ramushansen_: dude, what do you need help with? just ask, and someone will answer or direct you to the proper channel.21:31
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hansen_Ok Not run Blender in gnewsense for what?? what's problem21:33
hansen_21:33
hansen_I do not speak English21:33
ign0ramushansen_: you speak spanish?21:34
ign0ramus!es21:34
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:34
hansen_Gracias por la ayuda UBOTTU ;D;D21:35
hardstylerhello21:40
hardstyler all user21:40
LinuxApeI'm having a problem with KDE4: number of desktops is a problem, seems that there are conflicting configurations and I can't figure it out. I want at least 6 desktops and I seem to be stuck with 2.21:46
LinuxApeAlso my window decorations keep disappearing.21:46
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hardstylerwith KDE 4 have i not problems...21:51
jussi01LinuxApe: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 :)21:55
LinuxApejussi01:  thanks21:56
krikпрет всем21:56
jussi01!ru21:56
shane_where can i find info on moto4lin21:56
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke21:56
wesley_!adeptfix21:56
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »21:56
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uch666_moin22:08
uch666_moin22:09
Hamrahi, in kde4, what is the process responsible for bringing the alt-f2 run box?22:10
ilembitovIs it possible to get a fully updated Kubuntu iso if I am not using Ubuntu currently? Are there some respins?22:15
LinuxApeAny idea why I would be stuck with 2 desktops under kde4.1.1, no matter what I set it to?  Even if it shows 4 desktops in the pager, I can only use 2.22:17
Hamrai just tried putting 6 desktops, and it is working fine22:19
nielsslotilembitov: what do you mean?22:20
LinuxApeHamra:  What desktop manager?  Are you using Compiz?22:20
LinuxApeHamra:  where did you make the change?22:20
Hamraare you sure in system settings/desktop , you have set it to the correct number of desktops?22:20
Hamrai use kwin, with desktop effect22:20
toborign0ramus: Thanks!22:28
dhqcould some one help me out with my xorg as have nvidia 8600gt and now the mouse is so slow and i use hardy22:28
dralidenis22:29
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ign0ramusdhq: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_173.08.html22:37
dhqign0ramus: is it beta22:38
ign0ramusdhq: doesn't appear to be any more22:38
ign0ramusdhq: release date of April 200822:38
dhqign0ramus: and we still use xorg.conf for hardy right22:39
ign0ramusdhq: yes.22:39
ign0ramusdhq: do you have 'nvidia' specified in your xorg?22:39
dhqign0ramus: ok i will give it a try; yes i do have it specified22:39
dhqign0ramus: i have been using this one only22:40
dhqthe problem is my grafix works well but my touchpad is very slow and scroll and all doesnt work22:41
dhqign0ramus: ^^22:41
ign0ramusdhq: definitely a xorg issue... hopefully the new driver resolves it22:41
dhqign0ramus: well but i need to use it now what do i do22:41
ign0ramusdhq: you didn't edit any lines in xorg relating to your touchpad?22:41
dhqign0ramus: i tried and anytime i add something to xorg and restart xserver i get a message screens found but no usable config22:42
dr_willisI belive theres been some ' work/changes/rewrites' of some of the X touchpad code/system going on in the last few X releases.22:43
dr_willisthe joys of editing the xorg.conf by hand. :)22:43
dr_willismake edit,, test with startx..  fail.. go back.. :)22:43
ign0ramusdhq: if your graphics are fine, you can try installing package 'qsynaptics' to configure touchpad22:43
lethal_ухъ, мля, куды я попал? )22:44
ign0ramusdr_willis: yeah, manually editing xorg sucks.  especially when you forget to BACK UP xD22:44
ign0ramus!ru22:44
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke22:44
dhqign0ramus: i have done that aswell it gives me an error22:44
ign0ramusdhq: please pastebin your xorg.conf22:44
ign0ramus!paste22:44
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:44
dr_willisII was thinking that qsynaptics was becomng obsolete also..  part of the xorg/touchpad changes.22:44
dhqign0ramus: one sec22:44
dr_willisTo be honest with ya. I dont have any issues with my laptops touchpad.22:45
ign0ramusdr_willis: ksynaptics is no longer used in hardy, but qsynaptics is22:45
dr_willisIbn  not sure if the 'wheel/scroll' stuff works22:45
dr_willisign0ramus,  last i was at the k/qsynpatics homepage - he was working on  the next-gen version :)22:45
ign0ramusdr_willis: i had some issues, but i find a great tutorial specifying almost all available parameters for touchpad in xorg22:45
dr_willis!find touchfreeze22:46
ubottuFile touchfreeze found in Use, of, uninitialized, value, in (and 32 others)22:46
dr_willisHmmm...22:46
dr_willisTouchFreeze for Linux pre 0.2 and annoucing end of {q/k}synaptics22:46
ign0ramusi keep this thread in bookmarks... very helpful for touchpad issues: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35105822:46
ign0ramusdr_willis: touchfreeze, eh?22:46
dr_willishttp://qsynaptics.sourceforge.net/22:47
dhqdr_willis: ign0ramus http://paste.ubuntu.com/47585/22:47
ign0ramusdr_willis: nice to know!22:47
ign0ramusdhq: you have no entry for your touchpad at all22:48
dhqign0ramus: thats what i told you anytime i edit the xorg and try to boot it gives screens found but errors22:49
ign0ramusign0ramus: i would see if you can reconfigure and get xorg to recognize it... you can't adjust any touchpad settings if its not listed in xorg22:49
dhqdr_willis: its gsynaptics now22:49
ign0ramusdhq: have you reconfigured?22:49
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dhqign0ramus: i did it so many times today and now its back to default22:50
ign0ramusdr_willis: whats the 'safe' command to reconfigure xorg?  I think it has 'phigh' in it ...22:50
dr_willisign0ramus,  i was thinkign that command dident always work any more with the self-configuring X org stuff . or at least it dident work as well as it useed to.22:51
dr_willisI belive that command is given in the comments of the top of the xorg.conf file also22:51
dr_willisI have nvidia cards. so i use the nvidia config tools22:51
ign0ramusdr_willis: you're probably right ... that's why i ask you :)22:51
ign0ramusdr_willis: but what about when xorg is not detecting his touchpad?22:51
ign0ramusdhq: what kind of lappy do you have?22:52
dhqign0ramus: dell xps m153022:52
dr_willisI would boot the live cd. see if it sees the touchpad properly, and if so copy its xorg.conf somewhere for a referance.22:52
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dhqdr_willis: ign0ramus why is there no serverlayout in the default xorg22:53
dr_willistheres very little left n the xorg.conf file these days...22:53
dhqnothing22:53
dr_willisUnless you keep/use your old ones like i often do.22:53
dhqmy mistake22:53
dr_willisIve even removed the xorg.conf and started X and it would work on some of my machines :)22:54
dr_williswhich suprised me22:54
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ign0ramusdhq: do you have package 'xserver-xorg-input-synaptics' installed?22:55
dhqi dont think so22:55
dhqhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/47587/22:55
dhqi modified xorg22:55
dhqign0ramus: yes its already installed22:56
ign0ramusdhq: i'm not sure if adding lines from others' xorg.conf will help, but you've already got a screwy file... what the hey, restart x and see what happens!22:57
ign0ramusi'm gonna hit the shower... brb22:57
dhqi will be back after ctrl+alt+bkspc22:57
dhqign0ramus: dr_willis still the same22:59
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* dr_willis is off to play spore.. and read all the bad reviews about spore.. :)23:03
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dr_willisGuess i should of read the reviews befor i bought it.. but  - it keeps me enterained for a few hrs..23:03
synapse_hi all23:04
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xompcan anyone suggest a program that will read compiled html? (.chm)23:09
dhqign0ramus: you back23:09
ign0ramusdhq: now i am23:11
dhqign0ramus: brb once restarting x23:13
CANTVyo no soy nadien23:16
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CANTVUbuntu-ar-Cafe - charla OT (Off Topic) - Respetá al CoC -  RESPETÁ A LOS DEMÁS, Respetá a los demás usuarios - NO hagas flood: pega tu texto aquí -> http://rafb.net/paste/ - sé feliz :)23:23
quakeglenhi there... can anyone help me...?23:26
_2quakeglen it's the second door on the left,  has a picture of a man on the door23:26
motquestion23:27
moti have the gtk-qt-engine installed23:27
mothowever when i open kcontrol it's not in there23:27
motso i went and compiled it from source and installed it again, still won't show up23:27
moti upgraded some packages (not sure just ran the typical upgrade process) and all of a sudden my gtk-qt-engine went away and gtk apps went back to looking butt ugly23:27
motany ideas?23:27
Deniseoh23:28
_2mot possably   sudo update-menus      ?   not sure that will help tho23:28
motthat's a command?23:29
motsudo: update-menus: command not found23:29
_2-s23:29
quakeglencan anyone tell me how to open a jpg file from network with the gimp?23:30
motstill nothing (not found)23:30
_2;/23:30
_2ok so you don't have  /usr/bin/update-menus   hmmm   no clue thne.23:31
ign0ramusmot: in kcontrol, go to appearances and themes - GTK styles23:31
motign0ramus, did you read what i wrote? that isn't even in kcontrol23:31
moti even compiled it from source (the deb packages were installed)23:31
quakegleni just can't find the way to open any file with gimp trought samba23:31
ign0ramusmot: no, i just read the last few lines...23:31
motit worked great until the last apt-get upgrade i read.23:31
_2mot you are not mixing kde verstions are you ?23:32
motnot to my knowledge23:32
moti have 4.2 and 3.5.9 installed, using 3.5.923:32
motbut i made sure to uninstalled gtk-qt-engine-kde423:32
motuninstall*23:32
_2well,   i dont know then.23:32
mothow can i check the last packages that were updated?23:33
_2tail -50 /var/log/dpkg*23:33
htfg.23:34
_2that assumes only a few packages.   if it was more of a dist-upgrade type thing, then just use less in place of tail -5023:35
jalsis there a way to stop the dvd drive spinning down so quickly when i pause a film?23:38
jalsi pause regularly throughout and if i leave it like a minute it spins down so i have to wait for it to spin up again before it plays23:38
_2jals there is always a way.23:39
_2jals one way might be to use a wrapper for the program you use which also starts a small loop that will do something simple like an ls /media/dvd every 20 seconds or so.23:41
jalsthat sounds excessively complicated23:41
jalsisn't there some setting that decides when it does that23:41
_2jals yeah  on the drive23:41
jalsah23:41
jalsit's a hardware issue23:41
_2yes    is it an ide interface ?23:42
quakeglenis anyway to mount a samba url?23:42
_2!samba | quakeglen23:42
ubottuquakeglen: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.23:42
jalsyeah it's IDE23:43
_2jals if ide you might be able to use hdparm to adjust it.   but i am not advising that.23:43
_2you could also wreck the device.23:44
quakeglenmmm... mi problem is how to open and save files in a windows server with gimp23:44
_2quakeglen sorry, i don't do windows.   if no one else answers you can always ask in ##windows  or even in #ubuntu seeing that gimp is not a kde app23:45
_2or even ##linux or ##linuxhelp for that matter.  and there may be a #gimp channel here too23:46
michael_Hello I do not speak much English23:46
_2!es | michael_23:47
ubottumichael_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.23:47
michael_I speak Italian23:47
NickPresta!it | michael_23:48
ubottumichael_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)23:48
michael_ok23:48
NickPrestamichael_, or if you want, you can try to tell us your problem in English23:48
michael_yes23:48
DekansIl n'y a plus l'apercu des fenetres sur la barre des taches avec KDE 4.1 ??23:50
quakeglenaps.. _2 thanks anyway23:50
Dekansoups23:50
michael_GOOD BYE   thanks   thanks23:50
Dekanswrong language :/23:50
DekansI just installed KDE 4.1, and I cannot activate windows thumbnails on taskbar23:51
NickPrestamichael_, ?23:51
NickPresta!kde4 | Dekans23:51
ubottuDekans: KDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde423:51
Dekansis there an extra package to install or this feature is just removed ?23:51
michael_ <NickPresta> good bye thanks23:51
_2just goes to show, you can't judge a language by it's ip...23:57
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