[00:06] a all together === rarango is now known as mighty-d [00:10] can someone explain the difference between ubuntu kubuntu, and edubuntu? [00:10] how can I record a small clip of audio from an avi file ? [00:11] What is defferent betwin Ubuntu and kubuntu? [00:12] BBLake: it is the desktop environment that is the diff - kubuntu uses kde, ubuntu uses gnome, xubuntu uses xfce4, fluxbuntu uses fluxbox [00:12] thenks [00:12] hmmmm....i had ubuntu, and i installed the ubuntu studio theme, now my computer is taking forever to load [00:12] and I don't know about edubuntu... [00:12] is that because it's trying to load two desktop environemnts? [00:13] BBLake: no, it will only load one. [00:13] I don't think ubuntu-studio is a desktop environment... [00:14] not sure what happen3ed...maybe not related, but i downloaded a great theme, but it takes 10 minutes to boot up now. Took 20 seconds before. [00:16] there might be errors with the theme - try changing themes and reboot [00:16] it will tell if it is the theme [00:16] ok, will try that now...great idea..thanks [00:22] how come avidemux says "trouble initialising the audio device" when I use it on a video, but when I play the video with mplayer it plays audio fine... [00:23] anom01y: i'm guessing it has to do with how avidemux is configured, specifically with respect to sound I/O [00:23] ign0ramus: well it is set to alsa [00:24] anom01y: have you tried oss? [00:25] anom01y: i rarely use avidemux, but mine was set to PCM (which i thought was weird) and oss, and i've never had any sound errors with it. [00:26] I havn't sound, please tell that what I have to do to set up sound? (I trying to set sound 2 month, but...) [00:26] !sound | chegee [00:26] chegee: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [00:27] ign0ramus: ok well I will try a few others [00:27] thanks [00:27] anom01y: np, bro [00:28] im trying to use intrepid, but the NetworkManager simply wont work, manually conencting also fails now (but worked this morning), any ideas (i hosed my hardy install's (/boot)) but can copy files over using cds [00:29] what's ARTS? [00:29] !arts | chegee [00:29] Sorry, I don't know anything about arts [00:30] chegee: its your sound server [00:30] ... [00:30] ok, appreciate the idea favro, but it still took forever. THe only other thing i messed with lately was the pulse audio settings [00:30] is that a boot killer? [00:30] if not, what is the best way to diagnosis booting issues. (took 2 minutes a few days back) [00:31] BBLake: I would try a boot without the splash so I could read what's happening [00:31] BBLake: is it hanging before getting to x [00:31] BBLake: if so in grub remove splash, and possible quite (this give alot of info) [00:32] not sure how to remove splash [00:32] BBLake: you can also see startup scripts if you boot into Recovery Mode [00:32] i should remove quite as well [00:32] BBLake: at grub does your boot menu show? [00:32] in grub go to the ubuntu line and click e then remove the words splash and quiet [00:32] see, i don't get those options in grub ...it's weird. today at my office it did...But now it doesn't give the options, but takes forever. [00:33] can i access grub from within ubuntu? === abjdshfsd is now known as nixbox [00:33] yes it should be at /boot/grub/menu.lst [00:33] ign0ramus: I fixed the avidemux problem, you should check yours too.. [00:33] well the menu anyway [00:33] in preferences->audio->audio device, you have to type default in the box [00:33] anom01y: yup, i just saw that [00:33] remove the other text and replace it with "default" [00:34] weird [00:34] anom01y: did you see it here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=513901 [00:34] yeah I did [00:34] haha :) === Arlas is now known as mermshaus [00:34] i see that file, but not sure about what to do with it tom [00:34] Do i edit the splash settings in that file? [00:34] its best to google things before flipping out I guess [00:34] :) [00:34] anom01y: it worked before with oss, but like i said, i haven't used it in forever, and the sound didn't work any more [00:35] It seems there are more than one kernels. Is this normal? [00:35] yep [00:35] ok...so if i want to see the start-up script, and what's hanging i have to disable splash? [00:36] # defoptions=quiet splash [00:36] BBLake: just delete splash from the kernel line [00:36] BBLake: near the bottom [00:36] of the file [00:36] como cambiio un tema en kubuntu? [00:36] !es [00:36] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [00:37] should i delete quite as well? ANd do i do this for all kernels? [00:37] !it [00:37] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [00:37] BBLake: you only need to do it on the kernel you normally load (unless you use all of them) [00:37] BBLake: I would remove quiet and splash for the default kernel [00:38] lol..i don/t know how i got more than one. [00:38] BBLake: from apt-get updating [00:38] oh...so it's normal to have multiples...Can't grasp the concept...How do i determine my default kernel? [00:38] the latest one i presume? [00:38] BBLake: usually, yeah [00:39] BBLake: whatever's highlighted by default when you boot up [00:39] !xscreensaver [00:39] Sorry, I don't know anything about xscreensaver [00:39] BBLake: there's a good management tool called qgrubeditor, but we'll talk about that later [00:39] that's the thing igno, i don't see any options to chose when i boot up...I goes right to the login screen. [00:40] i don't even see the ubuntu loading w9indow (with the ogo and the progress bar) [00:40] but, i have removed splash from the latest kernel version. and will try and reboot. [00:40] BBLake: kk [00:40] BBLake: wait [00:40] ok [00:41] in the menu.lst file is a line to hide the menu - make sure it is set to not hide it [00:41] it's near the top [00:41] para español? [00:41] hiddenmenu=false [00:41] !es [00:41] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [00:41] !es | rocio [00:41] rocio: please see above [00:42] ## hiddenmenu [00:42] # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu) [00:42] #hiddenmenu [00:42] BBLake: that's the one, but like it says, you can press esc to see the menu [00:42] thanks. its the first time I use linux and and dont use to it [00:42] i'd like to change the setting to show by default....Where do i put =false [00:43] the top or the bottom of those three lines? [00:45] ## hiddenmenu [00:45] # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu) [00:45] #hiddenmenu [00:47] BBLake: are you editing your /boot/grub/menu.lst file? [00:47] trying to. [00:47] BBLake: can you pastebin it? [00:47] !paste [00:47] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [00:47] i've got copied. how do i pastebin...sending it now [00:48] BBLake: huh? copy it, go to pastebin, pastebin it, submit, and post url here [00:48] way neat [00:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/47287/ [00:48] there you go :) [00:49] BBLake: except you didn't paste your menu.lst file.... xD [00:50] i already took the splash out [00:50] http://paste.ubuntu.com/47288/ [00:50] not sure what i pasted the first time? [00:50] second time looks like it worked [00:51] is anything unusual:? the linux os is on a dedicated hard drive, don't know why it's get something about windows at the bottom [00:51] BBLake: looks good... except you still have 'quiet' on your newest (default) kernel... [00:51] BBLake: isn't that what you were trying to get rid of? [00:51] ok, i thought it was just splash i was geting rid of [00:52] what about the show grub menu at startup always? [00:52] BBLake: [7:37PM] BBLake: I would remove quiet and splash for the default kernel [00:52] i'm going to delete quite from them all [00:52] ok, going now. [00:53] all kernel's have quiet removed. Now i'll be able to read start-up script and see where it's hanging? [00:53] BBLake: if 'hiddenmenu' is commented, your grub should show on startup [00:53] BBLake: yep [00:54] ## 'hiddenmenu' [00:54] # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu) [00:54] #'hiddenmenu' [00:54] like that? [00:54] ign0, you can't see anything in grub that's holding it up? [00:55] BBLake: no - http://www.debianadmin.com/show-and-hide-the-grub-menu-on-ubuntu.html === pascalFR is now known as PascalFR [00:55] when there's a hash (#) in front of a line, it gets ignored. if it says 'hidden' but is hashed out, then 'hidden' will be ignored (ie, it will show) [00:56] anyone know a good program that plays both audio files and video files ? [00:56] anom01y: vlc [00:56] does it make playlists ? [00:56] hmm..it won't let me save the changes...permissions [00:57] BBLake: you have to be superuser to edit files in /boot/... use 'kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst' to be able to save changes [00:57] I have a friend who is a complete newb, I installed Linux to his system, but he doesnt like how he has to switch from amarok to mplayer all the time. lol [00:57] when he downloaded his music he downloaded both videos and mp3s, and now they are all mixed up [00:58] BBLake: close without saving then alt+F2 and type kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst [00:59] command kate not found...grr [01:00] BBLake: kate is an editor - choose another e.g. kwrite [01:00] BBLake: try kedit [01:00] or kwrite :) [01:00] nano vim [01:00] hehe [01:00] cool yeah vlc will work good [01:00] favro: he'll get killed with the keyboard shortcuts! [01:01] anom01y: afaik, it doesn't organize your library, though [01:01] yeah thats fine [01:01] anom01y: but it does play *everything* and the new version just came out like yesterday :) [01:01] ok got it..everything but disabling hidden menu. still not sure because one has two hashes the other has one [01:02] I tried installing a amarok script for him to play video's but I couldnt get it [01:02] BBLake: it ignores after the first hash, so you could have a hundred, and it doesn't matter [01:02] you could also try the mythtv packages, but that kinda eats up a set amount of space (your entire desktop by default) [01:02] I set the script on "run" and tried opening a video file, but it did not work properly [01:02] anom01y: i saw that too, but it doesn't look ready [01:02] that clears it up [01:02] Sou novato neste bate-papo [01:03] ok, going for the reboot..should i be looking for something in particular? [01:03] BBLake: yeah, a hangup xD [01:03] ok. be back in an hour..lol [01:04] Cara, só eu falo português por aqui? [01:04] !pg | cleber [01:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about pg [01:05] shoot, i don't remember the abbreviation xD [01:05] !br [01:05] Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt por ajuda em português. Obrigado. [01:05] woot! [01:06] Valeu... Estou saindo e passo para outra sala. [01:06] ok [01:10] hmmm..ok nothing changed...lol Didn't see any script or option or anything...just right to the login screen after considerable time [01:10] maybe a 12 minute boot time is normal? [01:11] BBLake: weird... did you try my original suggestion- to boot into Recovery Mode? [01:11] BBLake: no, it's not normal [01:11] don't have th eoption...it blows past th eopportunity to select which one so quickly. [01:11] BBLake: press ESC [01:12] ok, i will try and hit esc....what will the recovery mode do to help me troubleshoot? [01:12] BBLake: it should show all startup scripts running [01:12] ok, brb [01:14] how to make kopete open MSN new msgs on Firefox? [01:15] new emails === keith_ is now known as compilerwriter [01:23] uuhm totem is playing my dvd only in spanish... :) [01:24] chris_____: use vlc or kaffeine? [01:25] totem isnt so great? [01:25] chris_____: not in my experience... maybe someone else can vouch for it, but i've never really liked it [01:26] ign0ramus: thanks! :) [01:26] chris_____: np [01:26] will kaffeine work fine in gnome? [01:27] chris_____: sure will- it may download some dependcies, but you can run it. I suggest VLC [01:27] new version is in the repos now [01:28] Where can I _download_ a fresh copy of sources.list for Kubuntu 8.04.1? [01:28] installing vlc.. [01:28] * SkEmO is rebooting, bbasap [01:28] larryalk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=739119 [01:30] ign0ramus, Thanks for that info. I had hoped to find an official Cannonical site to d/l from [01:30] ign0ramus, I found one once but have lost it. [01:30] ign0ramus: is it using qt4 for the GUI? porting complete? [01:31] larryalk: they're in Adept [01:31] DreadKnight: what? vlc? [01:31] ign0ramus: tony soprano speaks english now (sort of) thanks :) [01:31] chris_____: cool... glad it works for you! [01:31] ign0ramus: yes; they are aiming for nice qt GUI; screw gtk+ it seems [01:31] DreadKnight: the version in the repos is gtk [01:32] back...did not work. my finger hurts from hitting ESC so much....nothing.... [01:32] ign0ramus: nice project (backend at least for now); so i guess i have to wait longer then [01:32] DreadKnight: i tried to compile a version this morning, and it was using qt to build, but it would not 'make install' :( [01:32] ign0ramus: oh i see [01:32] DreadKnight: so i don't know how it would have looked, but it was definitely using qt to build... [01:33] igno, should i do a re-install, and chuck it up to experience? I'm planning on starting a solid back-up plan before making any changes i'm not 100% about [01:33] BBLake: try installing qgrubeditor... there's a lot of options for your grub, and it's easy to configure [01:33] ign0ramus: it's going the right way :-) gtk+ is depracated anyways; qt4.5 can use gnome theses as well [01:33] ok, will give it a shot prior to the re-install [01:33] DreadKnight: did you see the qt firefox? looks promising [01:33] deprecated* [01:34] hello [01:34] ign0ramus, I'll look at Adept. Tnx. [01:34] no [01:34] español [01:34] ign0ramus: seen screenshots but heard it's not really usable; looking forward to a webkit browser (arora; chrome; konqueror) [01:34] larryalk: no problem [01:35] DreadKnight: i wish mozilla would use WebKit, but Gecko is their flagship... [01:35] ign0ramus: yeah; well firefox might be dumped from ubuntu since the EULA issue [01:35] lol [01:36] c: [01:36] igno, do you think it's because the grub sees a windows os out there that is not out there? [01:36] DreadKnight: what, just dumped as a default browser? [01:36] DreadKnight: I think theyll just fork it [01:36] DreadKnight: not according to Mark Shuttleworth [01:36] BBLake: run "sudo update-grub" [01:36] good bye [01:36] sobczyk: they'll probably replace it with iceweasel (neat, used it for a while) or emphaty (soon using webkit!) [01:36] ign0ramus: yeah, and move it to another repository [01:37] ok, and i chose their recomendations... it is updated.. [01:37] they can create their ow brand, hough iceweasel would be the smartest choice [01:37] I interviewed Mark Shuttleworth last thursday for my radio show...Should have asked him about FF [01:37] BBLake: ok, you can also remove unwanted (old) kernels in Adept [01:37] BBLake: a little housekeeping, you know [01:37] Is that a good idea?, maybe keep the last three type of thing [01:37] so are kernels, like restore points in a sense? [01:38] emphaty = default gnome browser; great integration into gnome; nice way of installing addons; will soon use the great webkit; best choice imho [01:38] BBLake: do you ever use them? you can keep them all, if you want [01:38] i NEVER use them. didnt know they existed until just now. [01:38] don't want to delete them, maybe i can use an older one to bypass thiss boot issue [01:38] i'm going to use grub editor to change my default kernel, see if it will boot faster [01:38] BBLake: kernels are not like restore points - it the base of the operating system, which gets updated frequently. if you're using a newer one, and everything works, you can ditch the old ones [01:39] sudo apt-get autoremove [01:39] DreadKnight: autoremove gets rid of older kernels? [01:39] BBLake: you can choose which kernel to boot, from boot options [01:39] ok, i get you. Restore points are my next project. Can't have these types of issues arise without a back-up..I'd hate to have to re-install because of this issue [01:39] ign0ramus: you should leave one just in case [01:39] ign0ramus: yeah; [01:39] sobczyk: i agree. [01:40] DreadKnight: that seems a little over-reaching, but i've never had a problem [01:40] changing my default kernel is a good idea..seems like the logical next step here [01:40] any guys around here using a tablet pc? [01:40] nope [01:40] BBLake: which kernel are you running? [01:40] I am at work, on XP however. They are wicked..I'm a new fan of the thinkpads. [01:41] 2.6.24-19-generic [01:41] BBLake: i think 24-21-generic is in the regular repos... maybe upgrade? [01:42] * DreadKnight hates how linux distros are so stupid regarding tablet pc's... an infinite number of guides on the internet on how to hack the stuff yourself, each in a different but similar way, yet no distro implements an out of the box solution [01:42] quickest way to upgrade? [01:42] my pc hasn't asked me for an upgrade in a while. [01:42] BBLake: " sudo apt-get update && upgrade " [01:42] ign0ramus: I have too the 24-19 you have proposed repos? [01:43] ok, going for it. [01:43] sobczyk: i honestly don't know which repo my kernel came from :/ [01:43] we shall see [01:43] I had some problems with 24-20 not booting up, was from proposed [01:43] sobczyk: i do have all repos Adept offers checked, and a bunch of others (medibuntu, etc) [01:43] sobczyk: the generic version? [01:43] yes [01:44] anyone around familiar with opensuse? would like some feedback about it (version 11 hopefully, using KDE) [01:44] i think i just upgraded..went quick [01:44] ign0ramus, Unfortunately the sources.list downloaded from your suggestion is so different I can't compare it to the orig sources.list from the install. [01:44] grep proposed /etc/apt/sources.list [01:45] ign0ramus, Do you know where i can d/l it from a site that will give me the same info in the same order as the install cdrom? [01:45] !live cd [01:45] The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option. [01:45] ok igno....moved kernel back to 14 to see if that resolves boot issue [01:45] anyone know how to get a completely clean (default) sources.list file for Hardy? [01:46] ubuntuforums maybe [01:46] can you rm the current one and have Adept generate a new one? [01:46] ign0ramus, Where would Adept gen a new one? In /etc/apt? [01:46] anyone playing with vlc 0.9.2 yet? [01:46] Adept parses the file sources.list [01:47] sobczyk, Problem is I don't trust the sources.list I have now. [01:47] burner: got mine today [01:48] well where's my deb? :) [01:48] burner: it's in the repos [01:48] burner: you have to purge the old one first [01:49] is there a fix for the K3B upgrade that keeps going in circles in the adept notifier ? [01:49] k3b has a broken dependency [01:50] wait till the dependant package gets upgraded [01:50] i wonder how many months it takes to fix a broken dependency xD [01:50] sudo apt-get remove k3b if it bothers you :D [01:50] I wonder how it ended up in the repos [01:50] * burner shrugs and keeps getting 0.8.6.release.h-1ubuntu1 for vlc [01:50] * burner can wait :\ [01:51] i want qt frontend for vlc xD [01:51] BluesKaj: i purged the old k3b and config files, and updated && installed k3b... works now [01:51] ign0ramus, Adept doesn't want to gen a new sources.list for me. [01:51] larryalk: i just moved my sources.list file to my desktop, and 'sudo apt-get update'd, and it used just the basic repos [01:52] ign0ramus: that worked like charm; BluesKaj you should try it [01:52] larryalk: no, strike, that, it used some other sources... where the heck did they come from? Hang on... xD [01:52] ign0ramus, I'll try that. Have moved my sources* files to a temp dir. [01:53] larryalk: yeah, move them somewhere else, check all the repos in Adept, and Fetch Updates [01:53] larryalk: hopefully that will generate a clean file for you [01:53] DreadKnight: did you see the new vlc? 0.9.2 is qt4 based [01:53] DreadKnight: good news- vlc switched to QT4 for 0.9.x [01:53] ign0ramus, I checked only the repos in the first page. Here I go. [01:53] burner: where do i get it from? [01:53] szakulec: i know, but haven't tried it out yet, not sure where to find it [01:54] DreadKnight: it should be in the repos soon enough [01:54] do they have a repo for ubuntu for now or debs? [01:54] i really hope the GUI isn't that crappy anymore [01:54] DreadKnight: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html [01:54] that doesn't have updated packages [01:55] i got the new version from the repos... i had to purge the old version first [01:55] indeed, remember i tried it.. at least it didn't had a few days ago [01:55] it looks gtk though... [01:55] ign0ramus, sudo apt-get updates gave me a new file with only 3 comments in it - no repos [01:55] hmm [01:56] larryalk: did you Fetch Updates in Adept? [01:56] vlc 8.6.0 in repo.. darn [01:56] DreadKnight: how the heck did i get the new version then? [01:56] ign0ramus: you tell me ! T_T [01:57] ign0ramus: added any repo for it? [01:57] ign0ramus: i think you're full of crap ;) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=vlc&searchon=names&suite=intrepid§ion=all [01:57] DreadKnight: i tried compiling, but it said it failed to install, so i purged vlc in konsole, and 'apt-get install vlc' ... that was it [01:57] intrepid? [01:57] the last time I tried vlc 9.x it wasn't stable [01:57] DreadKnight: unless my install failed because the old vlc was still there... [01:57] heh [01:58] ign0ramus, Adept won't let me fetch updates even though I checked all the boxes except source code. [01:58] larryalk: :/ [01:58] sobczyk: just released today [01:59] vlc 9.x today? [01:59] it seems so [01:59] ign0ramus, There is no box that would do something in the Software Sources window. [01:59] http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ [01:59] I used the sources [02:00] DreadKnight: i'm not lying - http://i33.tinypic.com/5euxbt.png [02:00] back then [02:00] ign0ramus: nice :) it was me calling you out on it though... not DreadKnight ;) [02:00] burner: either way - apt says i have the new version... [02:00] larryalk, did you check third party software as well ? [02:00] sobczyk, I don't need the sources. Have compiled much since my Slackware days. [02:01] BluesKaj, no [02:01] I do dev with qt4 so I don't mind [02:01] ign0ramus: i see that... i want it! [02:01] burner: i don't have a vlc repo or anything... i don't know how i got it [02:02] i'm sure it's just a matter of time [02:02] alright - football time for me [02:02] gnite guys [02:02] sobczyk, There is only a Reset and Close box in the Software Sources window. How the heck do i do something? [02:02] http://nightlies.videolan.org/ [02:03] i think the default ubuntu repositories are updated first rather then the local ones; always happens a small desyncronization :P [02:03] Software sources? aptitude? [02:03] DreadKnight, Where can I download the sources.list from U or Kubuntu ? [02:05] larryalk: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4891154 [02:06] sobczyk: ran into that before; i'm not using intrepid, remember it had broken dependencies on hardy; should use debian one instead or what? :P [02:06] you can [02:06] is there a way that i can test the individual hard drives? lshw gets to a certain point & then craps out [02:07] tes for what? badblocks? [02:08] i can't figure out which 1 is bad... my raid5 crapped out & trying to reassemble it's showing only 1 drive attaching [02:08] DreadKnight, It seems Adept does the update - when you hit the Close button. I'm supposed to figure that out? [02:09] larryalk: ? :\ [02:09] i'm thinking i've got bad blocks on my /, but not sure... which could corrupt the programs i'm trying to run to test the raid drives... i know 1 of the raid drives was dying, but / is an old ide [02:09] DreadKnight, I only got a single line of standard sources in the file. I'll try the url you sent. [02:10] larryalk: well, there is the sources.list posted there [02:10] it should solve your problem [02:11] pteague: badblocks can test for badsectors [02:11] read the manpage though [02:13] DreadKnight, The sources list I justs d/l is for Ubuntu. Would that be the same as the list for Kubuntu? [02:13] larryalk: ubuntu shares repo with derivates... [02:13] kubuntu, xubuntu.. [02:14] DreadKnight, OK thanks. I'll try to edit the file to compare it with my old sources.list. [02:14] larryalk: good luck :-) [02:14] DreadKnight, Tnx. [02:15] http://git.videolan.org/?p=vlc.git;a=summary [02:16] 9.2 is 42 hr old be a man get from the git HEAD :] [02:16] Hi everyone. Just installed lm-sensors and hddtemp. Both can read / display values just fine. What is a good frontend to see this information? [02:16] sobczyk: that's pretty active [02:17] use bzr and launchpad damn it xD [02:17] (launchpad's fault for being so ubuntu centric i guess) [02:17] who?? [02:18] fiXXXerMet: I like conky [02:20] vlc has a subtitle display option? [02:20] the new one? === fernando is now known as SkEmO === pascalFR is now known as PascalFR [02:24] DreadKnight, Just to let you know that your url worked fine to d/l a sources.list in the same order as my old one. Now I'm confident. Many thanks. [02:24] larryalk: cool; google ftw :-) [02:28] favro: conky seems nice! [02:28]