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| CIA-59 | base-installer: cjwatson * r333 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog kernel/i386.sh): Add support for AMD family 17 on i386. | 01:55 |
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| kirkland | cjwatson: I'm seeing some behavior in grub-installer that I didn't expect.... | 04:05 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: syslog of a RAID install: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/47315/ | 04:05 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: the log-blob starting at line 8444 shows that grub-installer finds and executes /sbin/grub-install in the chrooted target OS | 04:06 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: I think this actually makes my RAID and md-related changes to grub-installer moot | 04:07 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: however, grub-installer is still calling /sbin/grub-install with "(hd0)" as the argument, so grub-install is not actually writing the multiple MBR's | 04:07 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: actually, this might be a problem too... | 04:10 |
| kirkland | Sep 15 22:27:42 grub-installer: info: Identified partition label for /dev/md0: loop | 04:10 |
| kirkland | "loop" is not the correct label | 04:10 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: okay, i think i may see the heart of the problem... | 04:42 |
| kirkland | if type dmraid >/dev/null 2>&1; then | 04:42 |
| kirkland | ... | 04:42 |
| kirkland | elif type multipath >/dev/null 2>&1; then | 04:43 |
| kirkland | ... | 04:43 |
| kirkland | elif type mdadm >/dev/null 2>&1; then | 04:43 |
| kirkland | ... | 04:43 |
| kirkland | fi | 04:43 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: those are not mutually exclusive | 04:43 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: my install has dmraid such that "type" returns 0, but i really want the mdadm block to execute | 04:43 |
| TheMuso | kirkland: What package? | 05:08 |
| kirkland | TheMuso: grub-installer | 05:08 |
| kirkland | TheMuso: I'm testing a patch now.... | 05:08 |
| TheMuso | kirkland: Ah ok. I have yet to debug why it doesn't do its dmraid thing properly, so if you can solve that for yourself, and assuming it gets uploaded, I will base my work from what you've done. | 05:09 |
| kirkland | TheMuso: sounds good, i'll pass my patch by you here, if it works | 05:09 |
| TheMuso | kirkland: Ok. | 05:09 |
| TheMuso | kirkland: I see what you mean about faulty logic, especially since dmraid is aprt of the disks now. | 05:11 |
| kirkland | TheMuso: oooh, did that change recently? | 05:11 |
| kirkland | TheMuso: I swear this was working for me earlier in Intrepid....... | 05:11 |
| TheMuso | kirkland: Yes, when I seeded dmraid. | 05:11 |
| TheMuso | As part of my dmraid inclusion work. | 05:11 |
| kirkland | TheMuso: \o/ it works :-) | 05:15 |
| TheMuso | kirkland: Nice. | 05:15 |
| kirkland | TheMuso: patch attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/270758 | 05:18 |
| kirkland | TheMuso: I'm making a bzr branch now | 05:18 |
| TheMuso | kirkland: Ok. | 05:41 |
| evand | Is anyone else able to confirm that persistence support in casper is broken at the moment | 05:41 |
| TheMuso | evand: Whats needed to test? I have a USB key I can dig up, but have never played with it before. | 05:42 |
| TheMuso | kirkland: Glancing at the diff, I like the extra bit of logic you've added there. My only concern is that a user *MAY* wish to use a dmraid device, multipath, and mdadm simultaneously, but I highly doubt it. :p | 05:44 |
| evand | TheMuso: you can either make an ext2 partition on that disk with the label casper-rw, or you can put the full CD on the USB disk and add a casper-rw loopback file in the root. In either case, add 'persistent' to the kernel command line. | 05:45 |
| evand | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 05:45 |
| TheMuso | evand: Ok, I'll have to do the former, since my key is only 128MB. | 05:45 |
| TheMuso | I'll get back to you in a bit with the results. | 05:46 |
| evand | ok, much appreciated | 05:46 |
| TheMuso | ...or maybe not. Looks like the key is dead. | 05:53 |
| evand | ouch | 05:53 |
| evand | thanks the same though | 05:53 |
| TheMuso | np | 05:53 |
| TheMuso | It wasn't a critical key. I only ever used it for testing/experiments. | 05:54 |
| TheMuso | I'd rather carry everything around on either an external HD or on my notebook. Those keys are too easy to lose. | 05:54 |
| * evand puts everything in the cloud, lest he lose important information to a disk failure. | 05:57 | |
| persia | evand: Everything? Even your secret keys? | 06:02 |
| evand | ok, so not those :) | 06:03 |
| persia | evand: I understand. I recently travelled with a formatted notebook, and an install CD. Was functional again as soon as I had a network connection. | 06:05 |
| evand | nice | 06:06 |
| TheMuso | Its alright if sed network connection is fast. | 06:11 |
| TheMuso | I don't think cloud computing will be worthwhile in Australia till we get some deacent speeds. | 06:12 |
| evand | heh | 06:12 |
| evand | fair enough | 06:12 |
| TheMuso | And local servers that are part of the cloud. | 06:12 |
| persia | TheMuso: You just need a local cloud. | 06:12 |
| * evand kicks CIA-59 | 06:19 | |
| CIA-59 | ow | 06:19 |
| evand | sure, respond to that and not my attempt to post a commit to you. | 06:19 |
| TheMuso | haha | 06:20 |
| saispo | hi | 08:13 |
| saispo | cjwatson: ping ? | 09:42 |
| cjwatson | saispo: yes? | 09:57 |
| saispo | cjwatson: can you give me a little help on an lvm partition scheme ? | 09:58 |
| saispo | it didn't work and don't understand and see no mistake :/ | 09:59 |
| saispo | you can see it at : http://pastebin.com/m79de50ac | 10:01 |
| saispo | thks | 10:01 |
| cjwatson | saispo: you made lots of that up, didn't you? :-) I don't think device{ /dev/sda } can possibly be documented anywhere. | 10:05 |
| saispo | i see this in the partman recipe :) | 10:05 |
| cjwatson | I don't think I've ever heard of in_vg{ } or lv_name{ } either | 10:06 |
| cjwatson | which partman recipe? | 10:06 |
| saispo | http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/devel/partman-auto-recipe.txt | 10:06 |
| cjwatson | saispo: ah. I think that's from a newer version of partman-lvm and partman-auto-lvm than Ubuntu has. | 10:07 |
| cjwatson | please don't follow Debian documentation on Ubuntu, you'll just get yourself confused | 10:07 |
| saispo | ok | 10:07 |
| cjwatson | it looks neat, but we don't have that stuff yet, sorry | 10:07 |
| saispo | ok | 10:08 |
| saispo | no lvm partition scheme work on Ubuntu ? | 10:08 |
| cjwatson | sure, just not multiple-disk ones | 10:08 |
| saispo | i have only one disc | 10:08 |
| saispo | but needed two lv in a vg | 10:08 |
| cjwatson | yeah, I know, but that's the multiple-disk syntax | 10:08 |
| cjwatson | let me finish please | 10:08 |
| saispo | ok | 10:08 |
| cjwatson | you write recipes as normal (i.e. largely as if no LVM were involved) - see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-dev/debian-installer/ubuntu/annotate/963?file_id=21442%4048c42b26-1dd6-0310-b98f-a58d8bce7237%3Atrunk%252Finstaller%3Adoc%252Fdevel%252Fpartman-auto-recipe.txt | 10:09 |
| cjwatson | tag the partitions in the recipe that are allowed to be on LVM with $lvmok{ } | 10:10 |
| cjwatson | that's it | 10:10 |
| cjwatson | there are some specifics around line 88 of the link I just posted | 10:10 |
| saispo | yes, i see :) | 10:11 |
| cjwatson | but $defaultignore{ } and $lvmignore{ } are only important if you want to write one recipe that'll work for both LVM and non-LVM, which you probably don't | 10:11 |
| cjwatson | by default, it will put everything in the one VG for you, so you don't need to use the more complicated newer syntax | 10:11 |
| saispo | ok | 10:12 |
| cjwatson | looks like that new syntax will be useful for kickstart; thanks for mentioning it | 10:13 |
| cjwatson | sorry I accused you of making it up :) | 10:13 |
| saispo | no prob :) | 10:14 |
| saispo | will write a new partition scheme without lvm, i don't need it anymore for my customer request :) | 10:15 |
| saispo | thanks to take some times for me :) | 10:15 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: thanks, uploading | 10:34 |
| cjwatson | evand: is bug 182004 in fact in progress (apparently since January ...) or would you mind if I took it over at some point? I have some ideas | 10:54 |
| cjwatson | evand: it looks a bit more complex than just partman-auto/init_automatically_partition | 10:54 |
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| evand | please go ahead | 14:01 |
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| foka | cjwatson, Hello! While edubuntu is usually built as an addon CD nowadays, I am wondering if debian-cd/data/{hardy,intrepid}/preseed/edubuntu/edubuntu.seed needs to be modified? | 14:04 |
| foka | cjwatson, edubuntu-desktop got renamed to edubuntu-desktop-addon? | 14:04 |
| foka | cjwatson, I mean the "tasksel tasksel/first multiselect edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-server" line. | 14:05 |
| foka | cjwatson, Thanks! | 14:05 |
| cjwatson | foka: We don't use it any more ourselves, but indeed so. Done, thanks. | 14:07 |
| foka | cjwatson, Wow, that was quick. :-) Thanks! That was one problem I ran into: edubuntu-desktop stuff didn't get installed (but I wasn't sure if that was the change that did the trick), and it seems tasksel just quietly skipped it and left no warning in /var/log/syslog. | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | yeah, I don't think it warns about unknown tasks unfortunately | 14:10 |
| foka | cjwatson, I would like to look into it deeper some time; should I look into the "tasksel" package, or into a certain d-i module, or is it not so easily fixed? :-) | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | tasksel | 14:12 |
| cjwatson | it's a bit messy because at one point tasksel.pl itself wasn't technically able to use debconf; now I think it could, but nobody's rewritten the workarounds | 14:12 |
| cjwatson | so there's a bizarre split between tasksel.pl and tasksel-debconf | 14:13 |
| foka | cjwatson, I see. Thanks for the great hint! | 14:13 |
| * cjwatson is rather liking the shape of the debian-installer and ubiquity graphs on http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Plots/ | 16:01 | |
| cjwatson | both of them are at their lowest levels all year | 16:01 |
| evand | very nice | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | evand: aiming for a usb-creator upload before slangasek wakes up and freezes for alpha-6? :-) | 16:04 |
| cjwatson | hmm, you haven't pushed your changes I think | 16:05 |
| evand | for usb-creator? It's a bound branch. | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | ... but mine isn't and I was using 'bzr up'. Whoops. | 16:06 |
| evand | re upload> I'm going to try to squeeze one more upload in before he calls freeze, assuming he does that later than an hour from now. | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | I suspect you can get away with it | 16:07 |
| evand | it should be fairly stable and functional at the moment, though I need to investigate why persistence support in casper isn't working. | 16:08 |
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| cjwatson | UI looks loads better | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | does the Format button do anything? there's no feedback | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | oh, I suppose it only works if I select the partition rather than the disk | 16:16 |
| evand | indeed, I need to put in a progress dialog for that | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | I think the problem is that it offered me the disk at all | 16:19 |
| evand | it should only offer the disk if there are no partitions on it | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | that wasn't true in this case, there was already a partition | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | if it's helpful, I inserted the stick after starting usb-creator | 16:20 |
| evand | hrm, what's your partition table look like? Perhaps I can reproduce this. | 16:21 |
| evand | after starting usb-creator> slightly different code path, but it shouldn't make too much of a difference. | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | oof, it seems to have finished installing and still be running but have no windows up | 16:22 |
| evand | it's hidden | 16:22 |
| evand | you most likely clicked on something else | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | definitely not | 16:23 |
| evand | oh? yikes. | 16:23 |
| evand | I haven't seen that bug in a good long while in my tests. | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | I've minimised everything; there are windows shown by alt-tab but actually alt-tabbing to them doesn't cause them to be displayed | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | last few things in the output: | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | [16:20:27] device_udi: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_uuid_3433_3231 | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | [16:20:27] num_changes: 2 | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | [16:20:27] change: volume.mount_point | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | [16:20:27] change: volume.is_mounted | 16:23 |
| evand | is there a traceback in /root/.usb-creator.log (I know, I need to fix the write location)? | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | no | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | http://paste.ubuntu.com/47481/ from two successive invocations (I thought the first one had crashed, but actually this had happened to it) | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | http://paste.ubuntu.com/47482/ <- partition table | 16:25 |
| evand | odd, I have quite a similar setup with a 4G disk. I'll see if I can get to the bottom of this quickly. | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 16:28 |
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| Goosemoose | any ideas on why the following brings me to the terminal in preseed.cfg instead of installing edubuntu-desktop? tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard, edubuntu-desktop | 18:24 |
| persia | I suspect you want to change to edubuntu-desktop-addon, although I may be mistaken | 18:29 |
| Goosemoose | hmm, what i list the possibilites edubuntu-desktop is one | 18:32 |
| Goosemoose | nothing about addon | 18:32 |
| Goosemoose | maybe i need to install it as a package as well you mean? | 18:32 |
| superm1 | i'm pretty sure that is expecting a task name, and the task is indeed called edubuntu-desktop-addon | 18:35 |
| superm1 | just take a look at tasksel --l | grep edubuntu | 18:35 |
| Goosemoose | u edubuntu-server Edubuntu server | 18:36 |
| Goosemoose | u edubuntu-desktop-kde Edubuntu KDE desktop | 18:36 |
| Goosemoose | u edubuntu-desktop-addon Edubuntu desktop | 18:36 |
| Goosemoose | damn, that's changed since feisty! no wonder, i was looking at the old docs | 18:36 |
| Goosemoose | ok so what's the difference between kde and addon? | 18:36 |
| superm1 | one is gtk based and the other is kde based | 18:37 |
| superm1 | er gnome based vs kde based is a better way to put it | 18:38 |
| Goosemoose | ok | 18:38 |
| Goosemoose | well one down one problem to go | 18:38 |
| Goosemoose | then im finally done with thi | 18:38 |
| Goosemoose | this | 18:38 |
| Goosemoose | do you know anything about likewise? | 18:39 |
| superm1 | not familiar with it, sorry | 18:40 |
| Goosemoose | no problem | 18:41 |
| CIA-50 | grub-installer: cjwatson * r743 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): merge from lp:~kirkland/grub-installer/270758 | 18:52 |
| Goosemoose | anyone with experience with likewise? I have it joining the domain via preseed.cfg over the network. The installer logs show it's sucessfully. domainjoin-cli query shows it's joined, AD shows it's joined, but I can't log in to the domain. If I leave and rejoin it works fine. Any ideas on why that would be? | 18:57 |
| evand | Goosemoose: #ubuntu-server would be a better place for that question. | 19:00 |
| Goosemoose | evand: asked it there, no answer | 19:03 |
| evand | odd | 19:07 |
| Goosemoose | 123 people there, no one talks | 19:16 |
| kirkland | Goosemoose: ask dendrobates about likewise | 20:44 |
| Goosemoose | ok kirkland | 21:00 |
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