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| gnomefreak | what happened to the CC meeting? it was in the topic yesterday | 11:53 |
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| persia | gnomefreak: The topic is subject to waffle. It's supposed to start in 3 minutes. | 11:58 |
| gnomefreak | persia: ok thanks but after looking at agenda it most likely wont happen | 11:58 |
| persia | gnomefreak: I expect it will happen, but be a *very* brief meeting. | 11:59 |
| persia | Just in case any of the members of the CC have anything they want to introduce or discussi. | 11:59 |
| gnomefreak | ah good point | 11:59 |
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| kirkland | o/ | 15:58 |
| * mathiaz look around | 15:58 | |
| soren | o/ | 15:58 |
| * jdstrand waves | 15:59 | |
| nealmcb | \o | 15:59 |
| * mathiaz ooohhhs: people... | 15:59 | |
| zul | hello | 16:00 |
| sommer | yo | 16:00 |
| tarvid | here but already too much coffee | 16:00 |
| mathiaz | how is everyone doing today ? | 16:00 |
| tarvid | happy to be far from wall street | 16:01 |
| ogra | do you expect a rain of people out of the windows ? | 16:01 |
| mathiaz | ogra: apparently my expectations are too high today... | 16:02 |
| tarvid | the dogs have hit the ends of their chains | 16:02 |
| ogra | heh | 16:02 |
| mathiaz | let's get started | 16:02 |
| mathiaz | #startmeeting | 16:02 |
| Koon | o/ | 16:02 |
| soren | Let's. | 16:02 |
| nealmcb | Meeting started at 10:02:29. The chair is mathiaz. | 16:03 |
| mathiaz | After its last week quick appearance MootBot is back on vacation. | 16:03 |
| mathiaz | Last week's minutes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20080909 | 16:03 |
| ogra | mathiaz, ping Seeker` about it (he said we should do that) | 16:03 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Ubuntu VM builder | 16:04 |
| mathiaz | soren: ^^ ? | 16:04 |
| soren | Ooh, yes. Big stuff going on ehere. | 16:04 |
| soren | Erm... I've clearly neglected to send out the blog post. | 16:05 |
| soren | I'll get right on that later today. | 16:05 |
| soren | I've got a local version that deploys to EC2, so things are coming along very nicely. | 16:05 |
| mathiaz | soren: ok - you've uploaded a new version ? | 16:05 |
| mathiaz | soren: and you'll cover most of it in your blog post ? | 16:05 |
| soren | Most of the stuff I've done pertains to EC2, but there are a few licensing tidbits that needs sorting out before I can push it to the archive. | 16:05 |
| nealmcb | ooh - ec2 - cool! | 16:06 |
| soren | mathiaz: Indeed I will. It's mostly written up, I just need to update it with the last couple of weeks' progress and post it. | 16:06 |
| mathiaz | soren: great. | 16:06 |
| ScottK-laptop | Hello all. I'm finally not on the road at meeting time. | 16:06 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION] soren to write a blog post about vm-builder once it's available in the archive | 16:06 |
| * mathiaz waves at ScottK-laptop | 16:06 | |
| mathiaz | sommer: still on the track to update the Server guide wrt to virtualization ? | 16:07 |
| sommer | mathiaz: yep, I've updated the u-v-m section with what is currently in the man page... I'll update it again once the new version hits the archive | 16:07 |
| mathiaz | sommer: great ! | 16:08 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION] sommer to update the virtualization section of the server guide once vm-builder is available in the archive. | 16:08 |
| mathiaz | soren: anything else on the topic of vm-builder ? | 16:08 |
| soren | I'm thinking no. | 16:09 |
| tarvid | I would like a link on requirements for a host for a VM | 16:09 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Review ServerGuide for Intrepid | 16:09 |
| mathiaz | sommer: ^^ ? | 16:09 |
| sommer | tarvid: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/virtualization.html | 16:10 |
| tarvid | tnx | 16:10 |
| mathiaz | sommer: I still owe a review of the openldap section. | 16:10 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION] mathiaz to review the ldap section of the server guide | 16:10 |
| sommer | :) | 16:10 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: raid section ? | 16:10 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i published the blogpost calling for testing a few minutes ago | 16:10 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: if sommer has some time today, i'll review the server guide in conjunction with him | 16:11 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION] kirkland to review the RAID section of the server guide | 16:11 |
| sommer | kirkland: sure, can you ping me this afternoon? | 16:11 |
| mathiaz | sommer: anything else on the server guide ? | 16:11 |
| kirkland | sommer: yeah, will do | 16:11 |
| mathiaz | sommer: I guess you're still looking for reviewers for the different sections? | 16:11 |
| sommer | mathiaz: I had a quick question about the tomcat-server tasksel... is that going to be listed in the installer? | 16:12 |
| sommer | mathiaz: sure, reviewers are always welcome :) | 16:12 |
| Koon | sommer: yes | 16:12 |
| sommer | Koon: cool, just wanted to make sure | 16:12 |
| Koon | sommer: you want a section in the guide for that ? | 16:13 |
| zul | sommer: already is | 16:13 |
| sommer | I added it to the list this weekend... in the installation section | 16:13 |
| tarvid | i presume one of the motivations for virtualization is to limit the competition between a LAMP stack and a Tomcat sack? | 16:13 |
| soren | Err... Not really, no :) | 16:14 |
| Koon | tarvid: the only motivation is that it's fun. | 16:14 |
| mathiaz | sommer: Isn't it too late to add new material to the server guide ? | 16:15 |
| nealmcb | along with lots of other motivations..... | 16:15 |
| mathiaz | sommer: by material I meant brand new sections | 16:15 |
| tarvid | Oooh | 16:15 |
| sommer | mathiaz: ummm, I don't think it'd be a big deal... there's been some pretty large updates the last couple of days | 16:15 |
| mathiaz | sommer: right. | 16:16 |
| mathiaz | sommer: are you planning to write a section about tomcat ? | 16:16 |
| mathiaz | sommer: or would require some help on that ? | 16:16 |
| ScottK-laptop | Is the server guide affected by string freeze? | 16:16 |
| sommer | mathiaz: I wasn't planning to for Intrepid, but I'm not opposed to the idea | 16:16 |
| sommer | mathiaz: help would be great | 16:16 |
| sommer | ScottK-laptop: yes | 16:16 |
| Koon | sommer: I can help | 16:17 |
| ScottK-laptop | OK, so this'll all need freeze exceptions too. | 16:17 |
| sommer | ScottK-laptop: why? | 16:17 |
| mathiaz | sommer: hm - I'm not sure ScottK-laptop is refering to the same thing./ | 16:17 |
| nealmcb | Hmmm - the top two hits on google for ubuntu server guide are still very confusing, with no link to 8.04. I'll have to revisit my bug about that | 16:17 |
| sommer | Koon: that'd be great, and much appreciated | 16:17 |
| mathiaz | ScottK-laptop: there is a documentation freeze at the begining of the month of october | 16:18 |
| ScottK-laptop | OK. I guess that's the relevant one then. | 16:18 |
| mathiaz | ScottK-laptop: but now that we're in UI-Freeze, the doc team can review the documentation to make sure it's accurate | 16:18 |
| tarvid | sommer - nag tarvid about Netbeans and Tomcat | 16:18 |
| Koon | sommer: you prefer me to draft something or that we discuss together on what should be in there and you draft it ? | 16:18 |
| sommer | Koon: if you don't mind drafting it that'd be great... I've used Tomcat for some legacy stuff, but I'm not that familiar with it | 16:19 |
| Koon | sommer: will do | 16:19 |
| mathiaz | Koon: I'd suggest that you branch the ubuntu-doc bzr repo - and submit it to sommer for merge | 16:20 |
| sommer | tarvid: if you'd like to add some content that'd be great too | 16:20 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION] Koon to draft a section about tomcat for the Server Guide. | 16:20 |
| tarvid | I'd like to get a ball of Netbeans, PHP, Drupal and Tomcat running | 16:20 |
| Seeker` | sorry about the lack of bot; I dont have access to the server it runs on myself, and I cant always get hold of the person that does | 16:21 |
| mathiaz | sommer: anything else ? | 16:21 |
| nealmcb | tarvid: a ball? | 16:21 |
| tarvid | Which is one of the reasons I had the frail hope virtualization would constrain Tomcat from eating my PHP stuff | 16:21 |
| mathiaz | Seeker`: no problem. | 16:21 |
| sommer | mathiaz: I don't think so | 16:21 |
| tarvid | glob, pile, stack, heap | 16:21 |
| mathiaz | sommer: ok - thanks for the work. | 16:21 |
| mathiaz | let's move o | 16:21 |
| mathiaz | n | 16:22 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Boot Support for Degraded RAID | 16:22 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ^? | 16:22 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: \o/ | 16:22 |
| nealmcb | tarvid: hmm - what problems are you having? | 16:22 |
| nealmcb | tarvid: (maybe later in the meeting) | 16:22 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: we now have a question in the Ubuntu Server installer, if you have installed / or /boot on an md device, that will ask if you want BOOT_DEGRADED=true|false | 16:22 |
| mathiaz | nealmcb: tarvid: could take this to #ubuntu-server ? | 16:22 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: no small feat, I might add :-) kirkland pats himself on the back :-P | 16:22 |
| nealmcb | mathiaz: right - even better.... | 16:23 |
| tarvid | it is a current but not top priority project | 16:23 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: awesome - so nothing is left for this spec in this release cycle ? | 16:23 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: except testing. | 16:23 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: actually, there was one regression introduced by adding dmraid to the default seed | 16:23 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i solved that one late last night, and colin committed the fix this morning | 16:23 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ok. | 16:23 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i think the active development on this one is officially done :-) | 16:23 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: have you closed the bug in LP ? | 16:24 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: there's a slew of them | 16:24 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: they have been appropriately referenced in various patches so as to auto-close | 16:24 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: the ones i've fixed anyway | 16:24 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i should probably actually do a search for open duplicates | 16:24 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ok. There is a long bug thread also | 16:24 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: or related bugs that might have been fixed by these efforts | 16:25 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: the MOST relevant ones are listed at the top of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootDegradedRaid | 16:25 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ok. | 16:25 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: anything else to add on that topic ? | 16:25 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: nopers | 16:26 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: great - time to test now. | 16:26 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: true, as i said, blog post published | 16:26 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Tomcat6 server stack support | 16:26 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: http://dustinkirkland.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/intrepid-call-for-testing-booting-degraded-raid/ | 16:26 |
| mathiaz | Koon: ^ | 16:26 |
| mathiaz | Koon: I've uploaded your tomcat5.5 changes | 16:27 |
| Koon | mathiaz: the tasksel is in, thanks to zul. Tested and works ok | 16:27 |
| Koon | so on the tomcat6 front development is complete | 16:27 |
| Koon | on tomcat5.5 you uploaded the intrepid fixes | 16:27 |
| mathiaz | Koon: how are the dependencies going ? | 16:27 |
| Koon | there is a security update for hardy in the pipe, a SRU is next to fix other things | 16:27 |
| Koon | about deps, we are in a not too bad shape | 16:28 |
| Koon | see http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.intrepid/tomcat-server | 16:28 |
| jdstrand | fyi-- security fixes are uploaded and available (for hardy) | 16:28 |
| mathiaz | Koon: seems great. | 16:29 |
| Koon | the *gcj* + libasound2 packages are pulled in through recommends and are not needed | 16:29 |
| mathiaz | Koon: right - have you filed bugs about it ? | 16:29 |
| Koon | but that's almost as slim as it can get | 16:29 |
| Koon | mathiaz: yes, proposal was rejected for intrepid. Should be shot down in intrepid+1 | 16:30 |
| mathiaz | Koon: good. Anything else on the tomcat front ? | 16:30 |
| Koon | nope | 16:30 |
| mathiaz | let's move on. | 16:30 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] landscape-client in Ubuntu | 16:30 |
| mathiaz | I've been working on fixing landscape-client. | 16:30 |
| mathiaz | I'm going to upload a new package that will use a Pre-Depends to make it work correctly. | 16:31 |
| ScottK | Why is it even in Ubuntu, isn't it just a client for a proprietary Canonical product? | 16:31 |
| jdstrand | ScottK: it's open-source and could be modified for anyone to use | 16:32 |
| ScottK | Right. I said that wrong, in Ubuntu/in a standard install. | 16:32 |
| mathiaz | ScottK: landscape-client isn't install by default | 16:33 |
| mathiaz | ScottK: there is a choice in the install. | 16:33 |
| ScottK | OK. | 16:33 |
| kirkland | ScottK: it does contain some useful, open, aspects, including landscape-sysinfo | 16:33 |
| dendrobates | but that functionality has been split out so it does not require the full client. | 16:34 |
| mathiaz | dendrobates: so the pkg split is still under discussion. I'm hoping to get it working in alpha6. | 16:35 |
| dendrobates | mathiaz: upload it as you have it. We can make any changes as needed. | 16:36 |
| mathiaz | That requires a PreDepends change and promotion of update-motd to main. | 16:36 |
| nealmcb | is the protocol used by landscape-client documented? | 16:36 |
| mathiaz | the last part is taken care of by kirkland | 16:36 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: waiting on pitti or doko | 16:36 |
| radix | nealmcb: it's not documented. | 16:36 |
| dendrobates | nealmcb: I don't know how much documentation, but the client is gpl, so it could be discovered. | 16:37 |
| radix | nealmcb: we'd like to have it documented, of course | 16:37 |
| mathiaz | ok - that's all I have on the landscape front. | 16:38 |
| mathiaz | That's all from last week minutes. | 16:39 |
| nealmcb | radix: thanks. in the past there have been some discussions about how it might fit together with other server management tools. having a protocol that is documented and some means of discussing changes to the protocol would help | 16:39 |
| mathiaz | Anything else to add wrt to last week meeting ? | 16:39 |
| soren | mathiaz: Have you in the process uncovered an Ubuntu policy for pre-depends? | 16:39 |
| mathiaz | soren: same as Debian - frowned upon | 16:40 |
| soren | mathiaz: ...and needs raising on ubuntu-devel first? | 16:40 |
| mathiaz | soren: but in this case it seems that it's the best option in the available time frame | 16:40 |
| mathiaz | soren: cjwatson mentionned that I should open a bug about it to explain why it has been done. | 16:40 |
| mathiaz | soren: with the aim to fix it in the mid-trem. | 16:41 |
| soren | mathiaz: Sounds reasonable. | 16:41 |
| soren | right. | 16:41 |
| mathiaz | soren: once the underlaying issue is fixed, we can remove the Pre-Depends. | 16:41 |
| soren | Right, right. | 16:41 |
| mathiaz | Let's move on. | 16:42 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Drupal install script | 16:42 |
| mathiaz | tarvid: ^^ ? | 16:42 |
| tarvid | here | 16:42 |
| tarvid | I kept track of the work flow I do repetitively installing Drupal for clients | 16:43 |
| Adri2000 | (I'm sorry guys, I have to run, I should be back in ~15 minutes for the vsftpd item) | 16:43 |
| tarvid | it involves creating users, databases, dns zones and apache config files | 16:43 |
| mathiaz | tarvid: is this workflow documented somewhere ? | 16:44 |
| cjwatson | I just applied http://paste.ubuntu.com/47486/ to policy so that it recommends discussion on ubuntu-devel rather than debian-devel. | 16:44 |
| tarvid | perhaps by the script itself http://drupal.ls.net/node/47 | 16:44 |
| tarvid | I have older svg files built with "dot" | 16:45 |
| mathiaz | tarvid: what's the current state of the drupal package ? | 16:46 |
| mathiaz | tarvid: we should try to aim at integrating your common tasks in the postinstall scripts. | 16:46 |
| mathiaz | tarvid: or may be create a package that would do this for you. | 16:46 |
| tarvid | 6.4 and still struggling to update the contributed modules from 5.x | 16:46 |
| tarvid | there were 6 minor and one major upgrade in the past 12 months | 16:47 |
| tarvid | staying secure is a challenge | 16:47 |
| tarvid | the same is true for all large PHP apps | 16:47 |
| mathiaz | tarvid: it seems that you have a good use case for the web framework specification. | 16:47 |
| tarvid | installing them in /var/www does not improve the security situation | 16:47 |
| tarvid | if I knew what that was | 16:48 |
| tarvid | I am a long time Linux Ubuntu server user | 16:48 |
| tarvid | but my bash skills are modest | 16:48 |
| tarvid | I can spot many issues in a shell script | 16:49 |
| tarvid | some are easy like checking the number of parameters | 16:49 |
| tarvid | I'd like to reuse existing scripts but I can find much to build on | 16:49 |
| mathiaz | tarvid: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/improved-web-application-framework | 16:49 |
| mathiaz | tarvid: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebAppsPackaging | 16:49 |
| tarvid | that sounds appropriate | 16:49 |
| mathiaz | tarvid: you may wanna have a look at these page and provide input there. | 16:49 |
| mathiaz | tarvid: anything else ? | 16:50 |
| tarvid | simple issues like creating a new DNS zone are hard to find | 16:50 |
| tarvid | This may be of more interest in the Drupal world than Ubuntu | 16:51 |
| mathiaz | tarvid: that should be documented in the Ubuntu Server Guide then. | 16:51 |
| mathiaz | tarvid: if you could add your input to the spec mentionned above it would be appreciated. | 16:52 |
| mathiaz | Let's move on. | 16:52 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] nagios3 in main. | 16:52 |
| mathiaz | Koon: have you been working on that ? | 16:52 |
| Koon | mathiaz: no. apparently it wouldn't need a MIR so I'm trying to get ahold of someone that could fix it | 16:53 |
| mathiaz | Koon: IIRC there is also the fact that nagios is not in main for hardy. | 16:53 |
| mathiaz | soren: ^^ ? | 16:53 |
| soren | That seems to still be the case, yes. | 16:54 |
| soren | ...which is a mistake, by the way. | 16:54 |
| soren | ..and might actually get fixed (magically). | 16:54 |
| Koon | hmmm. | 16:54 |
| soren | It *has* been approved. | 16:54 |
| mathiaz | right | 16:54 |
| soren | And nagios3 isn't a rewrite (AFAIK), so getting it promoted should be a formality. | 16:55 |
| Koon | no it's pretty much the same thing, it's just that some plugins API is broken | 16:55 |
| soren | Oh, really? | 16:55 |
| zul | Koon: like which? | 16:55 |
| Koon | it exposes more macros and changed a few of them iirc | 16:56 |
| Koon | that was the rationale for the major revision number | 16:56 |
| * Koon looks it up | 16:56 | |
| Koon | anyway, it's a very specific case so I'd like to solve it directly with someone with superpowers | 16:56 |
| mathiaz | Koon: right - ask an archive admin and refer to the bug | 16:57 |
| soren | http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/3_0/whatsnew.html | 16:57 |
| mathiaz | Koon: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nagios2/+bug/211323 | 16:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 211323 in nagios2 "MIR for nagios" [Medium,Fix released] | 16:57 |
| zul | those bugs reports should be moved to nagios3 once its done | 16:58 |
| soren | Koon: Grab pitti. I've talked to him about it previously. | 16:58 |
| * Adri2000 is back | 16:58 | |
| Koon | soren: that's the one I've tried and failed to reach so far | 16:58 |
| mathiaz | Koon: will take care of this ? | 16:58 |
| mathiaz | Koon: will *you* take care of this ? | 16:58 |
| Koon | that's on my todo list yes | 16:58 |
| soren | Koon: Ah. I've explained the issue to slangasek as well. | 16:59 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION] Koon to ask an archive admin to promote nagios3 to main. | 16:59 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] vsftpd 2.0.7 | 16:59 |
| mathiaz | Adri2000: ^ ? | 16:59 |
| Adri2000 | yep | 16:59 |
| Adri2000 | basically, what I said in my email :) | 16:59 |
| mathiaz | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2008-September/002231.html | 17:00 |
| Adri2000 | vsftpd 2.0.7 has an interesting bug fix for FTPS, which makes it not work anymore with clients like filezilla | 17:00 |
| mathiaz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/+bug/254905 | 17:00 |
| Adri2000 | there is not a lot of changes, and they look pretty safe | 17:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 254905 in vsftpd "FTPS doesn't work with clients such as FileZilla" [Medium,Confirmed] | 17:00 |
| mathiaz | So you're asking whether that requires a FF exception ? | 17:01 |
| Adri2000 | it does I think, but I wanted the opinion of the server team before requesting one | 17:01 |
| zul | it does imho | 17:02 |
| mathiaz | It's a new upstream - so you'd need a FFe. | 17:02 |
| soren | Not if it's bugfixes only.. | 17:03 |
| mathiaz | soren: hm.. true | 17:03 |
| soren | At least, that's my understanding. I can't seem to find a reference to back it up right now, though. | 17:04 |
| Adri2000 | there are two "Add option" and one "enhance" in the changelog, suggesting there are not only bugfixes but also a few enhancements | 17:04 |
| soren | Oh, that might just be for universe. | 17:04 |
| mathiaz | Adri2000: if you're not sure, ask for a FFe. | 17:04 |
| mathiaz | Adri2000: I think you've already talked about with slangasek | 17:04 |
| Adri2000 | yes | 17:04 |
| ScottK-laptop | soren: Bugfix only is Main and Universe, I'm pretty sure. | 17:04 |
| Adri2000 | but, am I wrong thinking vsftpd is in main and the recommended ftp server? and on the cd maybe also? | 17:05 |
| Adri2000 | that's why I'm asking you :) | 17:05 |
| mathiaz | Adri2000: you're correct. | 17:05 |
| soren | Adri2000: No, that's correct. | 17:05 |
| Adri2000 | ok | 17:06 |
| mathiaz | Adri2000: so go ahead - ask for a FFe. And then you can work on providing an updated package. | 17:06 |
| mathiaz | Adri2000: and seek for sponsoring via ubuntu-main-sponsor. | 17:06 |
| Adri2000 | okay, will do | 17:06 |
| mathiaz | Adri2000: great. | 17:07 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Open Discussion | 17:07 |
| mathiaz | anything else ? | 17:07 |
| ScottK-laptop | Since I was last at one of these meetings, clamav and spamassassin have been promoted and are seeded in server-ship/ | 17:07 |
| mathiaz | ScottK-laptop: awesome! | 17:08 |
| mathiaz | ScottK-laptop: do you plan to have a mail-server task ? | 17:08 |
| ScottK-laptop | clamav is up to date with 0.94 and once I have some feedback on testing I'll upload it with the apparmor profile that jdstrand did. | 17:09 |
| * nealmcb cheers for ScottK | 17:09 | |
| nealmcb | (and all the helpers) | 17:09 |
| ScottK-laptop | Also Debian has created a pkg-clamav team which I'm a part of and I'll maintain our packaging branches jointly with them in their Git repo. | 17:09 |
| ScottK-laptop | On amavisd-new, I got some input from ivoks and I'm going to do some slight refactoring/improvement of default preferences after this alpha is out. | 17:10 |
| nxvl | it's awesome see so many new people on the meetings :D | 17:11 |
| mathiaz | ScottK-laptop: do you think about adding clamav and amavisd-new to the mail-server task ? | 17:11 |
| ScottK-laptop | The Debian defaults are not entirely friendly IMO (defaults to mailing virus detection reports back to the send, for example). | 17:11 |
| ScottK-laptop | mathiaz: I considered it, but wasn't sure. | 17:11 |
| ScottK-laptop | mathiaz: I thought it needed some discussion first. | 17:11 |
| ScottK-laptop | mathiaz: Spamassassin too. | 17:12 |
| ScottK-laptop | Any objections to that? | 17:12 |
| mathiaz | ScottK-laptop: yop. ubuntu-server@ seems like a good place to start. | 17:12 |
| ScottK-laptop | OK. I added them to server-ship to get them seeded so they'd stay in Main. | 17:12 |
| ScottK-laptop | mathiaz: I'll start a discussion and see if we get consensus and make the change after the alpha if one is wanted. | 17:14 |
| mathiaz | ScottK-laptop: seems like a good plan to me. | 17:14 |
| mathiaz | anything else ? | 17:14 |
| ScottK-laptop | Not from me. | 17:14 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION] ScottK-laptop to start a discussion on ubuntu-server@ about adding spamassassin, clamav and amavisd-new to the mail-server task. | 17:15 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Agree on next meeting date and time. | 17:15 |
| mathiaz | same place, same time, next week ? | 17:15 |
| sommer | +1 | 17:15 |
| ScottK-laptop | I'll be on vacation next week, so it'll probably be the week after I make any changes. | 17:16 |
| mathiaz | Allright then. See you all next week here. Happy Alpha6 testing ! | 17:17 |
| mathiaz | #endmeeting | 17:17 |
| sommer | thanks mathiaz, later on all | 17:17 |
| kirkland | sommer: ping me when you have time later | 17:22 |
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