[01:15] <R[a]ndom> bars even have switches?
[01:15] <R[a]ndom> oops
[01:16] <favro> well that was random... :)
[01:20] <Nick_iPhone> i am stuck at  initramfs can anyone help
[01:21] <Nick_iPhone> thanks
[01:21] <thinkmassive> I just got an "updates available" notice and the change logs are all full html pages... weird
[01:22] <zoredache> thinkmassive: I get that when I am on my wireless network at work and I haven't authenticated with the wifi portal
[01:22] <thinkmassive> oops nevermind, exactly the same thing happened here
[01:23] <Nick_iPhone> i downloaded xubuntu, burned the ISO to a CD with ImgBurn, and now I am trying to install it on an older computer
[01:23] <Nick_iPhone> and when i boot, i get stuck in  initramfs
[01:24] <Nick_iPhone> can anyone guide me?
[01:24] <zoredache> it failed when you are trying to boot the CD?
[01:24] <Nick_iPhone> yes
[01:24] <zoredache> did you verify the checksum of the file you downloaded.  Or have you tried running the check for defects?
[01:25] <Nick_iPhone> no, i didn't do either of those
[01:25] <Nick_iPhone> should i run the check for defects?
[01:26] <zoredache> yes.  If that failes, you might need to redownload the iso, or verify the file you downloaded has a valid checksum
[01:26] <Nick_iPhone> ok, let me try the check for defects
[01:26] <Nick_iPhone> brb
[01:27] <zoredache> !md5 | Nick_iPhone
[01:27] <Nick_iPhone> ok
[01:34] <hvgotcodes> hey how do i tell what version of intel graphics drivers I have installed?
[01:38] <Nick_iPhone> it says there was an error in 1 files
[01:38] <Odd-rationale> Nick_iPhone: then you will probably need to redownload the iso... then check again with the new downloaded iso...
[01:39] <Odd-rationale> Nick_iPhone: and if i may suggest, use the torrent :D
[01:40] <Odd-rationale> hvgotcodes: might want to ckeck /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:40] <Odd-rationale> hvgotcodes: it is a long file. some search/find feature may be helpful...
[01:41] <hvgotcodes> Odd-rationale: can i find out from the graphics file?
[01:41] <hvgotcodes> sorry
[01:41] <hvgotcodes> i mean from apt-cache
[01:42] <Odd-rationale> hvgotcodes: yeah you could... like "aptitude search intel"
[01:42] <hvgotcodes> aptitude or apt-cache?
[01:43] <Nick_iPhone> what would change when i download the ISO again?
[01:44] <Nick_iPhone> i am not using a torrent, just a regular file
[01:44] <Nick_iPhone> in firefox
[01:44] <hvgotcodes> all it says is the package name- how to finnd out the version?
[01:45] <Odd-rationale> either one... which ever you are more comfortable with...
[01:49] <hvgotcodes> Odd-rationale apt-cache showpkg shows
[01:49] <hvgotcodes> Versions:
[01:49] <hvgotcodes> 2:2.2.1-1ubuntu13.6
[01:50] <hvgotcodes> I dont think that is the version though
[01:53] <unfo> Nick_iPhone: if you use the torrent, you can set your bittorrent client to verify and fix the already-downloaded .iso file
[01:53] <unfo> Nick_iPhone: do you know how to?
[01:53] <Nick_iPhone> no
[01:54] <Nick_iPhone> how would the iso have gotten messed up while downloading?
[01:54] <unfo> Nick_iPhone: dunno
[01:54] <unfo> i don't quite remember how to do this, but i will try to walk you through it.  first, get Vuze 3.2
[01:54] <unfo> Nick_iPhone: then, switch it to azureus UI mode in preferences
[01:54] <unfo> Nick_iPhone: then ask me what to do next
[01:54] <Nick_iPhone> well, i think i will just not do it
[01:54] <unfo> Nick_iPhone: that's also fine :)
[01:54] <Nick_iPhone> i will try a different computer
[01:55] <Nick_iPhone> ok thanks
[01:55] <unfo> Nick_iPhone: i doubt that will help.
[08:41] <jimbo77> hi everyone. i am trying to install xubuntu on a laptop (celeron-192mb ram) and it always hangs on "detecting filesystems". is there anything I should do?
[08:42] <ablomen> jimbo77, are you using the live cd installer or the alternate cd installer?
[08:43] <jimbo77> the live one i thing
[08:43] <jimbo77> think*
[08:43] <ablomen> do you get a graphical envoirement to install?
[08:43] <jimbo77> yes
[08:43] <ablomen> ok then try downloading the alternate installer
[08:44] <jimbo77> i have to download the alternate install cd, right?
[08:44] <ablomen> its basicly the same install process but without the full live xubuntu envoirement while installing, this is especially made for pc's with (less then) 192mb ram
[08:44] <ablomen> yeah
[08:45] <jimbo77> ok thanks i will try that
[08:45] <ablomen> np, good luck :)
[09:37] <OmfgItsAShar1> anybody on at this odd hour
[09:48] <R1cochet> help switch user logs me back in after 5mins
[09:51] <R1cochet> help, "switch user"*
[09:51] <R1cochet> !switch user
[09:51] <R1cochet> !log out
[09:51] <R1cochet> !logout
[10:17] <DFlame> R1cochet, try Applications > Settings > Login Window
[10:18] <DFlame> in the security tab, disable timed login
[10:22] <R1cochet> it is disabled
[10:40] <jarnos> I can't download xubuntu desktop i386 alpha5 by torrent.
[10:42] <jarnos> Oh, it started working about 4 KiB/s.
[10:44] <jarnos> So I can expect to have it downloaded in about 40 hours. I have 1Mbit/s connection, is this normal with torrent?
[10:49] <jarnos> Transmission is testing port 51413 in preferences. It tells the port is closed.
[12:07] <sluxor> can anybody tell me how to make a command execute on xubuntu 7.10 once the desktop is loaded?
[12:07] <sluxor> automatically*
[12:09] <favro> sluxor: there should be autostarted apps in the settings manager
[12:09] <ablomen> sluxor, menu => settings => settings manager => autostarted apps
[12:32] <sluxor> thanx
[12:39] <mib_kz8cij> hi
[12:40] <mib_kz8cij> i need to know if in this release if my printer issue has been solved
[12:42] <TheSheep> mib_kz8cij: well, check the bug report that you submitted
[12:43] <mib_kz8cij> i haven't sent one in
[12:43] <mib_kz8cij> its for a canon pixma 1600
[12:45] <mib_kz8cij> never mind i found my answer thanks anyways though
[13:15] <favro> I've made a fuzzy clock - is there some plugin or such that will let me display the output on the panel?
[13:27] <jarnos> favro: Maybe #xubuntu-devel could help?
[13:28] <favro> sounds like an idea thnx jarnos
[14:19] <jarnos> brasero sucks, it doesn't support my burning to my cd-rw.
[14:20] <jarnos> I use k3b even if it is kde staff.
[14:44] <jarnos> even if there is the annoying bar showing on top of everything during burning.
[14:50] <jarnos> luckily the OSD can be disabled in K3b settings.
[15:12] <Maerz> hi there
[15:12] <Maerz> just a small question: is there sth like automount in xfce?
[15:13] <Maerz> for easy access ot dvd/cd
[15:16] <TheSheep> Maerz: yes, see thunar->edit->preferences->advanced->volume manager
[15:16] <Maerz> thank you
[16:55] <nubuntu> my friends windows computer crashed (again) and he is finally almost ready to install linux, but i need to save his docs before we erase the hard drive.  problem is this, that for the last two nites i've gone over there, i have not been able to get xub or ubuntu to fully load live.  at the point that i should be getting to the login screen, it just goes black, with the little white cursor...
[16:55] <nubuntu> ...appearing in the middle of screen.  someone here the other nite suggested that i try safe graphics mode, but at the point in the linux load that the f4 option appears, the keyboard is not being detected and therefore inoperable.  this happens with both ubuntu and xubuntu...  some other distros boot right thru, for instance puppy, dsl, knoppix, and centos, tho the keyboard is not detected...
[16:55] <nubuntu> ...on all.  on centos, i seem to have full live functionality, i just not as comfortable with it as i am with ubuntu, and can't figure out how to install ntfs-3g on it to save his files.... any ideas?  i'm supposed to go over there in a few hours to fight with it again!
[16:56] <nubuntu> ps.  its a dell dimension 2400 ...
[17:02] <gabkdlly> Are you using Hardy CDs?
[17:14] <nubuntu> gabkdlly: yes, burnd day b4 yesterday
[17:20] <Myrtti> has anyone gotten skype to work on xubuntu lately? I'm having bbbbiiiig difficulties with my laptop
[17:32] <nubuntu> my friends windows computer crashed (again) and he is finally almost ready to install linux, but i need to save his docs before we erase the hard drive.  problem is this, that for the last two nites i've gone over there, i have not been able to get xub or ubuntu to fully load live.  at the point that i should be getting to the login screen, it just goes black, with the little white cursor...
[17:32] <nubuntu> ...appearing in the middle of screen.  someone here the other nite suggested that i try safe graphics mode, but at the point in the linux load that the f4 option appears, the keyboard is not being detected and therefore inoperable.  this happens with both ubuntu and xubuntu...  some other distros boot right thru, for instance puppy, dsl, knoppix, and centos, tho the keyboard is not detected...
[17:32] <nubuntu> ...on all.  on centos, i seem to have full live functionality, i just not as comfortable with it as i am with ubuntu, and can't figure out how to install ntfs-3g on it to save his files.... any ideas?  i'm supposed to go over there in a few hours to fight with it again!
[17:32] <nubuntu> ps.  its a dell dimension 2400
[17:33] <zoredache> if you just need to backup files why do you need ntfs3g?
[17:33] <zoredache> ntfs read-only support is available in most kernels I believe....
[17:44] <nubuntu> zoredache: i guess bcause his windows wont boot.  so have to access his doc files, etc... is there another way?  between him and i we are like the blind leading the blind...
[17:45] <zoredache> pull the drive out and put it in a working computer
[17:46] <nubuntu> zoredache: want to save all his files to a flash, and copy to his laptop.
[17:46] <nubuntu> zoredache: hmmmm, that might be out of our (non) expertise level
[17:48] <kthakore> HI there I just install xubuntu and I am trying to get compiz running
[17:48] <nubuntu> i'm wondering if i take a usb keyboard over there, if it will detect where the psn he has connected doesn't?  any thoughts?
[17:48] <kthakore> it works for the most part
[17:48] <zoredache> nubuntu: it doesn't seem likely, but you could try it
[17:48] <TheSheep> psn?
[17:48] <nubuntu> kthakore: whats prob ezackly
[17:49] <kthakore> but I can't get some stuff like widget layer,
[17:49] <nubuntu> TheSheep: ps2 .. sry
[17:49] <kthakore> and window switcher and almost everything but transparency
[17:49] <TheSheep> nubuntu: usb keyboards are connect through usb, not ps2
[17:49] <TheSheep> connected
[17:49] <nubuntu> kthakore: join room at #compiz-fusion for specific help, they got moms set up real well the other day with me
[17:50] <kthakore> nubuntu: I know my compiz works though it works in my gnome setup fine
[17:50] <kthakore> I just think the bindings are not working
[17:50] <kthakore> I ran compiz debug and I can see the plugins get enabled
[17:51] <kthakore> but it doesn't pick up the bindings keyboard mouse or edges
[17:51] <nubuntu> TheSheep: i know, but right now it's not detecting the ps2 keyboard he has on the computer, so i'm just wondering if a usb keyboard might be detected better?
[17:52] <nubuntu> kthakore: seems like youd get better help at compiz-fusion, thats their baby
[17:53] <TheSheep> nubuntu: yes, usb keyboard should get autodetected, even if you connect it when the system is already running
[17:54] <Myrtti> sidenote: http://identi.ca/notice/569787 <-- how I got skype working
[17:58] <nubuntu> TheSheep: i'm hoping it detects at the point where the f4 option appears to get into safe graphics mode, as someone here suggested his prob *might* be with graphics card.  when loading live hardy cd's, it wont advance to login screen after seeming to load all kernels and all, just get a black screen and cursor
[17:58] <TheSheep> nubuntu: is that nvidia?
[17:59] <nubuntu> not sure, don't have the box in front of me now, going over there soon as tony gets home from work
[18:00] <nubuntu> just trying to prepare my thoughts and plan of action
[18:01] <nubuntu> i'll be able to get back in the chatroom on his laptop hopefully while i'm working on the desktop
[18:01] <TheSheep> nubuntu: I had similar problem with nvidia, disabling agp helped
[18:01] <TheSheep> nubuntu: I had to add 'Option "nvagp" 0
[18:02] <TheSheep> nubuntu: to the 'device' section of xorg.conf
[18:02] <nubuntu> TheSheep: but how do you disable anything if you cant even boot in?
[18:02] <TheSheep> nubuntu: you can boot into text mode
[18:03] <TheSheep> nubuntu: if you choose the 'repair' option
[18:04] <nubuntu> i'll save all this conversation to review tonite in the trenches :)
[18:04] <TheSheep> nubuntu: then you can switch to second terminal with alt+f2 ad you have a normal console
[18:04] <nubuntu> i can do this with the live cd?
[18:06] <TheSheep> yes, I'm talking about livecd now
[18:07] <TheSheep> when it asks you where you have your system installed, just swithc to the second console
[18:07] <TheSheep> when you finish, you can type 'init 5' to start graphical mode
[18:08] <TheSheep> (or just /etc/init.d/gdm start)
[18:09] <TheSheep> ok, anybody can explain why .gif files are by default opened in thunderbird in intrepid? %)
[18:09] <TheSheep> it's kind of silly
[18:09] <nubuntu> TheSheep: hmmmm,  ok... i just checked out the irc log, that's pretty cool its already got this conversation saved so i'll be able to refer to it.
[18:10] <TheSheep> nubuntu: you can use lshw and lspci to check what hardware it has
[18:10] <zoredache> TheSheep: from thunar, or?
[18:10] <TheSheep> zoredache: from anywhere, it's system-wide
[18:12] <nubuntu> I might be able to if i get ubuntu booted, otherwise i might be able to jusing the centos live cd, which for some reason boots fine, to my great dismay
[18:13] <zoredache> TheSheep: there are a few apps that don't seem to honor the xfce 'prefered applications'.  thunderbird for gifs does sound wrong...
[18:18] <slimjimflim> hello, i was just checking out my xubuntu hardy's /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq and noticed that it was less than 1/2 of the max.  Does anybody know if i can and/or how to increase this?  i'm assuming this is the fsb speed.  my current value is 800000, the max is 1800000
[18:19] <slimjimflim> running an turion64
[18:19] <slimjimflim> *a
[18:19] <slimjimflim> armornick, i've gotten some things to run on it, but others have failed hard
[18:20] <slimjimflim> just be sure to check the hcl
[18:22] <slimjimflim> linux has no problem reading fat/fat32/ntfs partitions, if that's what you mean
[18:22] <TheSheep> slimjimflim: tru installing and running powertop, that should clear some doubts for you
[18:23] <slimjimflim> thesheep, are you talking about my fsb thing?
[18:23] <TheSheep> whatever fsb is
[18:23] <slimjimflim> front side bus
[18:24] <slimjimflim> armornick, ext3 isn't a proprietary filesystem
[18:24] <zoredache> who is armornick?
[18:27] <slimjimflim> thesheep, just as i expected, it's running at the lowest power setting...do you know how to increase it (at least that's what it looks like)
[18:27] <slimjimflim> Cn                Avg residency       P-states (frequencies)
[18:27] <slimjimflim> C0 (cpu running)        ( 2.2%)         1.80 Ghz     0.0%
[18:27] <slimjimflim> C1                0.0ms ( 0.0%)         1.60 Ghz     0.0%
[18:27] <slimjimflim> C2               14.8ms (97.8%)          800 Mhz   100.0%
[18:28] <TheSheep> slimjimflim: sure, just run some program that requires cpu
[18:28] <slimjimflim> oh, so it's automatic
[18:29] <TheSheep> slimjimflim: you can add the cpu governor plugin to your panel to switch to manual
[18:33] <odditie> Can anyone tell me how to tell what linux-headers I need?
[18:33] <TheSheep> odditie: normally you don't need any
[18:34] <zoredache> if you do need them for something, you need the version that matches your install linux-image package
[18:34] <odditie> Well I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers and it says to make sure the latest linux-headers are installed
[18:34] <odditie> And how do you find that? I'm still a linux noob.
[18:34] <TheSheep> odditie: install the drivers from the repository, not from the nvidia page
[18:34] <odditie> They don't work correctly. It did get it so I can have my monitor at 1280x1024, but no 3d
[18:35] <odditie> I had 3d before I used the those drivers
[18:37] <TheSheep> odditie: the drivers from repository work, unless you have some very new graphics card, and they are tested and have some bugs fixed. If you install the ones from nvidia page, you are on your own.
[18:38] <odditie> Its a 8800 GT. I've installed Ubuntu recently and it took me some messing around to get everything to work, but recently I just reformatted because I screwed too many things up, lol.
[18:39] <TheSheep> there are some howtos at:
[18:39] <TheSheep> !nvidia
[18:56] <johndoc1> I'm having some trouble with xubuntu and svideo out.  Anyone had any experience with this?
[21:50] <blatch> anyone know why when i do a find ./Originals -name "*.gif" -o -name "*.png" -o -name "*.jpg" -o -name "*.jpeg" -o -name "*.bmp" -o -name "*.tiff" -exec mv {} ~/Pictures/ \;
[21:50] <blatch> nothing gets moved
[21:50] <blatch> the paths have odd characters in them: ./Originals/2004/May 7, 2004/Euphoria.jpg
[21:51] <shane_> does anyone here use moto4lin
[23:03] <xxploit> question, anyone know if there is repo yet for hardy for the xfce 4.6 alpha, I see one setup for ibex over at launchpad, but was wondering if anyone knew any for hardy.
[23:04] <cody-somerville> No
[23:23] <johndoc1> Can anyone help me with VNC in xubuntu? I keep getting connection refused by host (401)
[23:23] <johndoc1> i'm sorry, connection reset by peer
[23:24] <johndoc1> !vnc
[23:24] <danopia``> johndoc1, what server are you using
[23:24] <johndoc1> i've tried several, xvnc4server atm
[23:26] <favro> connection reset by peer would be the viewer having issues I would have thought
[23:26] <favro> not the server
[23:26] <danopia``> i use vino
[23:26] <danopia``> it could be both ^^
[23:26] <johndoc1> i tried vino as well
[23:26] <danopia``> i use tightvnc if i want a clean, second desktop and i use vino for sharing my messy normal screens
[23:27] <johndoc1> i'm not partial to any of them, well...other than the one i get it working in if that happens
[23:28] <favro> tried pinging the server from the client
[23:29] <johndoc1> i'm trying to connec to localhost
[23:30] <favro> you're using a viewer to vnc to a server on the same comp?
[23:30] <johndoc1> yes, to test it
[23:30] <johndoc1> easier than switching from desktop to laptop back and forth
[23:30] <favro> I've never tried that...
[23:30] <johndoc1> it's what they suggest in all the tuts
[23:30]  * johndoc1 shrugs
[23:30] <favro> k
[23:32] <favro> I'll have a google :)
[23:32] <johndoc1> i hope you find something, i've been googling for 3 hours
[23:33] <johndoc1> i was hoping it was something i could do real quick before i left tonight
[23:33] <johndoc1> since it's so easy in ubuntu
[23:34] <favro> has the lappy still got a vnc connection?
[23:34] <johndoc1> O.o?
[23:34] <johndoc1> no
[23:35] <johndoc1> it's also getting connection refused
[23:35] <favro> "easier than switching from desktop to laptop back and forth" - you can't have the same connection twice is all
[23:35] <johndoc1> oh right
[23:36] <johndoc1> yeah, i can't get a connection from anything
[23:37] <favro> what are you entering for the connection?
[23:38] <johndoc1> from the laptop vncviewer 192.168.1.2
[23:38] <johndoc1> the system itself vncviewer localhost
[23:39] <johndoc1> :1
[23:39] <favro> so   vncviewer localhost:1
[23:39] <johndoc1> yes
[23:41] <favro> k - reset by peer is normally a timeout issue - the server is up and running? - ps aux | grep vnc   should check
[23:42] <danopia``> favro, if it wasn't running, the connection woudln't be accepted in the first place, right?
[23:43] <johndoc1> i get a lot of stuff that is very scrunched and i don't understand it
[23:43] <johndoc1> yes, for some reason it shows 2 running
[23:44] <johndoc1> :2 and :3
[23:44] <favro> try   top   and seeing if xvnc shows in that
[23:44] <favro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=cdca02aa3c606795b294d841ab23a52e&t=122402&page=2 this page is about the issue - still reading
[23:45] <johndoc1> it's not
[23:45] <johndoc1> i tried that topic
[23:45] <johndoc1> it's what i started with
[23:46] <johndoc1> there's 51 pages of add on stuff
[23:47] <johndoc1> i probably can figure it all out from that post, but it will take a while
[23:53] <favro> well I think I know about it now...