[00:14] <DanaG> Argh!  Every single time I log in, networkmanager asks me for the network passphrase.
[00:14] <DanaG> It's not saving it in the keyring.  What gives?
[00:53] <maennj> hi guys
[00:53] <maennj> I'm having problem connecting to wireless network using knetworkmanager in kubuntu 8.10
[00:54] <maennj> it simply doesn't connect, I don't get any notification messages or anything
[00:55] <maennj> anyone getting this problem too ?
[00:56] <bringatowel> has anyone been using the new 802.11s stuff?
[00:56] <bringatowel> just wondering how easy it is to use and if there are any ubuntu guides on the topic yet
[01:08] <shadowhywind>  hay all i just upgrade the kernel to the lastest one, and when i go to install the nvidia drivers it says that i am running a xen kernel, any ideas?
[01:08] <DanaG> umm... using the packaged nvidia drivers?
[01:09] <shadowhywind> no from the nvidia drivers
[01:09] <shadowhywind> which were working before the update
[01:09] <RAOF> And won't now.
[01:10] <maennj> anyone knows a solution for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/259278 ?
[01:10] <shadowhywind> nope, during every kernel update i end up having reinstall them anyways. and when i try to install (using the same nvidia drivers) it errors out stating that i am running a XEN kenerl
[01:10] <RAOF> Use the packaged drivers, which work.
[01:11] <RAOF> maennj: use nm-applet from network-manager-gnome?
[01:11] <RAOF> maennj: (As it says on the last comment on that bug).
[01:12] <RAOF> shadowhywind: Yes.  The nvidia.com drivers don't like our kernel.  Use the packaged drivers.
[01:12] <shadowhywind> RAOF: will they handle opengl stuff? aka compiz?
[01:13] <RAOF> shadowhywind: Yes.  They're exactly the same drivers as you get from nvidia.com, but their kernel module is patched.
[01:13] <maennj> RAOF: ok thx
[01:13] <shadowhywind> RAOF: ok, what would the package be to install then?
[01:13] <RAOF> shadowhywind: Depends on your card.
[01:13] <RAOF> shadowhywind: I'd use System->Administration->Hardware Drivers.
[01:16] <shadowhywind> RAOF: so hardware drivers don't seam to load with a ImportError: No module named kurllabel
[01:16] <RAOF> shadowhywind: That's strange.  You might want to file a bug (if your system is relatively clean).
[01:17] <RAOF> Do you have any 3rd party repositories enabled?
[01:17] <shadowhywind> maybe, hehe
[01:17] <RAOF> Right.  I guessed as such, given manual install of nvidia.com drivers!
[01:18] <RAOF> So, the package you want to install is probably nvidia-glx-177 (Assuming you've got a card > geforce4)
[01:18] <shadowhywind> ROAF geforce go 7200, hehe
[01:19] <shadowhywind> RAOF: would i have to change xorg back to nv?
[01:19] <RAOF> shadowhywind: No.
[01:19] <RAOF> They are the nvidia drivers.
[01:19] <RAOF> As in: we take the thing you download from nvidia.com, make it work, and put it in a package.
[01:19] <shadowhywind> k
[01:21] <shadowhywind> RAOF: well installing the 177 drivers to see if that might solve some of the glitchs, if nott i saw that they have the 173 drivers that i am currently running
[01:46] <peloverde> I'm having trouble accessing webservers I can get to just fine from windows. It's very strange.
[01:47] <peloverde> for instance I can't connect to nytimes.com from intrepid but i can from vista
[02:34] <DanaG> argh, new PulseAudio is so very stuttery.
[02:36] <DanaG> heh, metacity compositing on nv == bad.
[02:37] <crd1b> s/on nv//
[02:41] <RAOF> crd1b: I don't mind metacity's compositor.  Better than nothing :)
[02:42] <DanaG> Well, when you use it on nv17... ouch.
[02:42] <DanaG> And on a weak CPU, too -- p4-celeron 1.6GHz.
[02:42] <RAOF> Mmm.  Composite in software.  Yum!
[02:42] <DanaG> P4-celeron in a laptop... my brother must not have done much research when buying this laptop (quite a few years ago).
[02:43] <DanaG> Oddly enough, nouveau is actually... slower.
[02:43] <RAOF> Even at compositing?
[02:43] <DanaG> Last time I tried, it seemed very CPU-intensive.
[02:44] <DanaG> Xorg was using like 15% CPU, I think (if I remember correctly).
[02:44] <RAOF> I'd expect that, say, a transparent-background gnome-terminal would be well within the "GPU outweighs setup costs" zone.
[02:44] <RAOF> DanaG: Oh, while I'm at it, #nouveau would like you to work out _why_ it's slow; it apparently shouldn't be ;)
[02:45] <DanaG> Hmm, give me a moment to switch... oh, and to disable nvidiafb by rebooting, unless there's some way to unload fb drivers.
[02:45] <RAOF> There probably isn't :)
[02:46] <DanaG> Oh yeah, the non-suspendability thing has become a non-issue, because now nv doesn't resume for me, either.
[02:46] <DanaG> ARGH, stupid glitchy!
[02:52] <peloverde> I'm having trouble accessing various computers on the internet I can get to just fine from windows. It's very strange.
[02:57] <literal> peloverde: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/264019
[03:00] <peloverde> thanks
[03:01] <RAOF> DanaG: You going to be staying here this time? :)
[03:04] <DanaG> Mmm, it's using 40% CPU.
[03:04] <RAOF> Doing nothing very much?
[03:04] <DanaG> And it took ages to log in.... sounding like it was swapping massively.
[03:04] <RAOF> Want to pastebin xorg.conf, dmesg, and Xorg.0.log?
[03:04] <DanaG> And many of my gnome panel applets crashed.
[03:05] <RAOF> Hm.
[03:05] <DanaG> cpufreq-applet, gnubiff, multiload (that's system monitor applet), and mixer applet.
[03:06] <DanaG> jockey-gtk also crashed.
[03:06] <RAOF> Yeah, it does that :)
[03:06] <RAOF> I should file a bug, obivously.
[03:07] <DanaG>  pastebinit .xsession-errors
[03:07] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/f267de45a
[03:08] <DanaG> Compositor is off, actually.
[03:08] <RAOF> Turning it on may make things faster.
[03:08] <DanaG> I wish I had a kvm-over-IP thingy.
[03:08] <DanaG> That'd let me let other people debug stuff.
[03:09] <RAOF> Anyway, xsession-errors is uninteresting to me :).  Can I have xorg.conf, dmesg, & Xorg.0.log?
[03:09] <DanaG> hold on, dinner time.
[03:09] <RAOF> NP
[03:21] <peloverde> Is there a way to dig up old packages that aren't in /pool/ anymore?
[03:48] <DanaG> raof: /me is back
[03:48] <DanaG> peloverde: look on the launchpad.net page about the package.
[03:49] <DanaG> Mmm, 53% CPU usage by Xorg.
[03:49] <DanaG> xorg log: http://pastebin.com/f60bee399
[03:51] <RAOF> DanaG: And I'm off, but will be back later.
[03:51] <RAOF> Feel free to pastebin+ping; I'll grab it from backscroll.
[03:51] <DanaG> I'll switch to nv for now.
[03:51] <DanaG> dmesg:
[03:51] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/f6e8a2e7c
[03:52] <DanaG> xorg.conf:  http://pastebin.com/f7ae4b32b          -- note that many of the "nvidia device" options are ones that only do anything when using the binary driver.
[03:52] <danbh_intrepid> anyone know about the nvidia refresh bug?
[03:53] <danbh_intrepid> ie, im looking for the link to the bug report
[03:55] <danbh_intrepid> nvm, found it
[03:57] <DanaG> RAOF: okay, that's everything for now.  Whenever you get back, give me a ping or something.
[04:06] <DanaG> Ugh, alc
[04:09] <DanaG> arg
[04:09] <DanaG> It just took a freakishly long time to log in and start the panel........... something like 10 minutes.
[04:10] <DanaG> And it was 10 minutes of a freakishly huge amount of disk activity.
[04:10] <DanaG> I don't get how the nouveau driver can cause so much massive disk activity.
[04:14] <DanaG> RAOF: have you looked in 'man nouveau'?
[04:14] <DanaG> "Copyright 1993-2003 NVIDIA, Corporation.  All rights reserved."
[04:14] <DanaG> ... wtf?
[04:15] <crd1b> DanaG: so?
[04:15] <crd1b> nouveau was derived from nv
[04:15] <DanaG> Aah.
[04:16] <DanaG> Does copyright not make things non-free?
[04:16] <DanaG> ... perhaps I'm just misinterpreting something.
[04:16] <crd1b> someone always has the copyright
[04:16] <DanaG> Aah.
[04:17] <crd1b> and nvidia does not have copyright on the new stuff in nouveau, only the existing code
[04:22] <mneptok> it's the reserving of rights that is of concern
[04:26]  * DanaG has switched back to nv.
[04:26] <DanaG> Nouveau is cpu-rapeagey for me, for some reason.
[06:49] <SwedeMike> when I dist-upgraded my ibex right now landscape-common wasn't installed even though landscape-client depended on it, I had to apt-get install landscape-common manually
[06:49] <SwedeMike> thought apt-get would figure out that by itself
[08:01] <bugabundo_work> good morning
[08:01] <bugabundo_work> is fta around?
[08:02] <bugabundo_work> I'm having a depency problem with today's updates!
[08:02] <bugabundo_work> anybody else ?
[08:03] <bugabundo_work> fontconfig, firefox 3.1, pidgin!
[08:03] <bugabundo_work> all left unconfigured!
[09:24] <XDi> anyone away?
[09:24] <XDi> awake even
[09:31] <elwood> here i am
[10:22] <tucoz> Hi. Regarding nvidia driver bugs, is that something that is entirely in nvidia's hands or does the ubuntu bug-squad have a say in those cases. I am thinking of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-177/+bug/269904
[10:23] <RAOF> tucoz: Fixing it is generally entirely up to nvidia; we don't have access to the source.
[10:25] <tucoz> ah. too bad. let's hope they monitor launchpad then..
[10:31] <Bauldrick> how can i change the resolution? it's stuck at 800x600, nvidia GeForce 6150 LE
[10:40] <marlun> Is it possible to remove the highlight at the top of the windows in Intrpid?
[10:40] <literal> highlight?
[10:40] <marlun> I'm using NewHuman and it has an orange highlight at the top.
[10:42] <literal> in the Appearance thing you can click Customize, and change the Window Border
[11:20] <gaminggeek> when does intrepid go beta?
[11:23] <marlun> What does the {a} mean in the package names? is it for alpha?
[11:27] <literal> gaminggeek: google intrepid release schedule
[12:03] <DrHalan> hey
[12:03] <DrHalan> did upstart break?
[12:09] <DrHalan> i got an update on it and now i cant boot any kernel
[12:13] <bill--22> hello
[13:03] <wesley_> hi are here to having people upgrade problems ?
[13:06] <mvo> wesley_: what kind of upgrade problem?
[13:08] <wesley_> wesley@Grimmjow:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:08] <wesley_> Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar
[13:08] <wesley_> Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd
[13:08] <wesley_> De status informatie wordt gelezen... Klaar
[13:08] <wesley_> U kunt 'apt-get -f install' uitvoeren om dit op te lossen.
[13:08] <wesley_> De volgende pakketten hebben niet-voldane vereisten:
[13:08] <wesley_>   tasksel-data: Vereisten: tasksel maar het is niet geïnstalleerd
[13:08] <wesley_> E: Er zijn vereisten waaraan niet voldaan is. Probeer -f te gebruiken.
[13:08] <wesley_> wesley@Grimmjow:~$
[13:13] <wesley_> whats libpam-runtime ? because thats causing the problems
[13:18] <milos_> I ssh-ed in one of my servers and upgrade it to intrepid. If try to 'sudo apt-get install package' and then say 'no', it install it again. Is this a bug?
[13:19] <wesley_> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process:  this is what i see in konsole
[13:23] <cypherdelic> My TV Stick is detected as a Keyboard in 2.6.27, with 2.6.26 everything is all right!  USB HID v1.01 Keyboard [Afatech DVB-T 2] any ideas? Firmware is in right place. v4l-dvb frech compiled installed and rebooted! :(
[13:24] <cypherdelic> Its a MSI DigiVox mini II (V3.0) state of the art working in hardy!
[13:24] <cypherdelic> any suggestions?
[13:28] <Bauldrick> should I have start-up links for kdm-kde4 in intrepid or is it just kdm
[14:02] <cypherdelic> My TV Stick is detected as a Keyboard in 2.6.27, with 2.6.26 everything is all right!  USB HID v1.01 Keyboard [Afatech DVB-T 2] any ideas? Firmware is in right place. v4l-dvb frech compiled installed and rebooted! :(
[14:02] <cypherdelic> Its a MSI DigiVox mini II (V3.0) state of the art working in hardy!
[14:02] <Pici> !bugs
[14:02] <cypherdelic> oh i didnt know its a bug i thought maybe its a new incompatiblity feature of the new kernel ;)
[14:03] <Pici> Why would that not be a bug?
[14:03] <Pici> Regressions are bugs too
[14:42] <gnomefreak> regressions == worst type of bug
[14:42] <Pici> Yeah, those make the users mad the most.
[15:12] <digifor> I have alpha 5 installed on an eeepc 4g
[15:12] <digifor> It is not picking up wireless
[15:13] <digifor> i have turned off encryption. I have another laptop running hardy on the same network so the wireless access is fine.
[15:13] <digifor> ifconfig shows I have wlan0
[15:14] <digifor> but iwlist scan shows No Scan results
[15:16] <cypherdelic> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/271367
[15:17] <cypherdelic> any ideas for that?
[15:17] <cypherdelic> i want to provide further informations as far as possible
[15:19] <Pici> cypherdelic: I reassigned it to the 'linux' package, which is the package for the kernel
[15:20] <cypherdelic> thanks dude, that should speed up bugtracking :)
[15:22] <snirp> Kubuntu 8.10 seems to drop into busybox every time I start installation....
[15:25] <snirp> tryning to install alpha 5 on a system that runs 8.04 and 7.10 just fine
[15:25] <snirp> What to do?
[15:26] <snirp> matches this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/195524
[15:33] <snirp> That is the bug. Wait and see...
[15:56] <Bauldrick> can I get my nvidia card to work properly yet in intrepid?
[16:00] <void^> define properly.
[16:02] <Bauldrick> well, actually work. I'm stuck at 800x600 and can't seem to get anything else
[16:02] <Stevko> I have nvidia, intrepid and 1600x1200, so it is possible
[16:03] <Stevko> When I sarted II first time, I also had something like 800x600. I removed xorg.conf and it somehow started to work. But I am not really sure why.
[16:04] <CarlFK> xserver-xorg-core or something does a good job of detecting
[16:05] <CarlFK> xorg.log: (EE) Unable to locate/open config file;
[16:05] <CarlFK> (II) Loader magic: 0x81d8a40
[16:05] <Bauldrick> xorg.conf is very minimal, but it's supposed to be, no?
[16:06] <CarlFK> Bauldrick: if by minimal you mean not there :)
[16:06] <CarlFK> delete it, restart X
[16:06] <Stevko> Mine was also minimal, when it did not work.
[16:07] <CarlFK> do you have a 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7150M (rev a2)
[16:07] <CarlFK> if so, the nv driver has issues https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/261977
[16:14] <rski> is 3g internet connetion supported?
[16:18] <Bauldrick> that didn't work, hardware drivers doesn't have anything in it, should it for my card
[16:24] <Bauldrick> Stevko: what did you install/do again to get yours going?
[16:27] <Stevko> I just deleted xorg.conf.
[16:28] <Stevko> But I do not know why it worked (it worked once before and if it hadn't I would not have minded.)
[16:29] <CarlFK> Stevko: it worked because of new thing: ﻿(II) Loader magic:
[16:32] <Stevko> I think it worked some time ago, when II probably did not have name, but I may be wrong (my memory is failing more and more in last few years)
[16:56] <bsnider> just wanted to confirm that as of this morning's ia32-libs update, flash is now broken for everybody on amd64
[16:58] <hateball> I'm trying to install the latest PS3 build of Intrepid, but it keeps failing to configure libc6 during install. What could be wrong?
[17:01] <void^> bsnider, worksforme (unless the update hasn't hit de.archive yet)
[17:02] <void^> sadly, flashblock doesn't seem to work anymore since that last firefox update. pain.
[17:02] <bsnider> void, which version of ia32-libs do you have?
[17:02] <void^> 2.2ubuntu11
[17:03] <bsnider> DONT UPGRADE
[17:03] <bsnider> 2.2ubuntu12 is hte latest
[17:03] <bsnider> can you do me a favour
[17:03] <void^> i'll switch to the main mirror
[17:03] <bsnider> look in synaptic under that package. click the installed files tab
[17:04] <void^> dpkg -L will do, right? :)
[17:04] <bsnider> i don't know
[17:04] <bsnider> you can't use synaptic?
[17:04] <void^> i suppose i can. i never do.
[17:05] <void^> yes, seems to be the same as dpkg -L
[17:05] <bsnider> i want you to see if as part of the package you've got, there's a file called libxcb-render-util.so.0
[17:06] <void^> no, only libxcb.so.1, libxcb-xlib.so.0, libXrender.so.1
[17:08] <bsnider> well, then it's not a lack of files
[17:08] <bsnider> but something about the new one breaks flash because it can't find that file
[17:09] <CarlFK> what nvidia-glx should I install?  I am guessing either nvidia-glx-177 or nvidia-glx-new-envy ?
[17:09] <void^> -177 for "modern" hardware
[17:10] <CarlFK> thanks.  and should it just work (ibex), or is there still some workaround I need to do ?
[17:11] <CarlFK> looks like the install worked.  I need to reboot the kernel, not just X, right?
[17:13] <void^> uh, depends. restarting X should be enough. perhaps depmod first, and check if it succeeded building the module
[17:25] <ghindo> Does anybody know if Kubuntu 8.10 runs KDE 4 by default?
[17:33] <mattik> yes
[17:34] <mattik> ghindo: yes, it runs
[17:34] <CarlFK> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[17:34] <CarlFK> eh?
[17:35] <CarlFK> http://dpaste.com/78663/  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:35] <DanaG> argh, I'm in the pulse-rt group... yet for some reason, it can't get realtime priority.
[17:36] <CarlFK> creating a xorg.conf with driver          "nvidia" fixed it.
[17:36] <CarlFK> yay - nvidia on ibex just-works again.
[17:39] <danbh_intrepid> CarlFK: are you using 177?
[17:41] <CarlFK> danbh_intrepid:  yep: (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  177.70  Wed Aug 27 12:55:53 PDT 2008
[17:42] <danbh_intrepid> cool, Ill have to try it out  : )
[17:43] <CarlFK> there is a chance that all the push/pulling/hacking I have done to supply data for bug #261977 is needed, but my guess is it will work out of the box
[17:43] <CarlFK> nv is still hosed, but nvidia works
[17:53] <gribouille> hi
[17:53] <gribouille> is it possible to have two versions of libc on the system ?
[17:55] <CarlFK> how do I disable the "crash report detected" gizmo that i think is crashing...
[17:56] <DanaG> Ugh, PulseAudio 0.9.21 is glitchy when I'm running update-manager.,
[17:57] <DanaG> er
[17:58] <DanaG> 0.9.12.
[18:13] <pibe86> hello i have downloaded intrepid-alternate-i386 beta 5, does it have more support for laptops?
[18:18] <danbh_intrepid> pibe86: in general, it will support newer hardware
[18:22] <pibe86> danbh_intrepid: because i have some problems installing 8.10 so i will try this intrepid-alternate-i386 beta
[18:25] <danbh_intrepid> pibe86: what problems?
[18:26] <pibe86> danbh_intrepid: and after installing is there any difference ?
[18:26] <danbh_intrepid> pibe86: shouldnt be
[18:26] <danbh_intrepid> pibe86: but what are the problems?
[18:27] <pibe86> danbh_intrepid: please wait me a second  i write the error
[18:28] <pibe86> danbh_intrepid: when i start to install livec cd it says "BusyBox can't access tty: job control turned off"
[18:29] <pibe86> danbh_intrepid: and i tried to install alternative cd and it said "no installable kernel found"
[18:29] <pibe86> so i am going to try beta 5
[18:30] <danbh_intrepid> pibe86: ah, I see, the live cd is failing.  Well, yeah, if the alternate cd works, it will install the same thing.    I've heard rumor that the  alternate cd supports more older hardware
[18:30] <danbh_intrepid> pibe86: try the daily
[18:31] <pibe86> i have just downloaded it
[18:36] <net_mask> good day
[18:39] <net_mask> hey guys i have a problem with the gtk or maybie the x11 enviroment on ibex
[18:40] <net_mask> all my hw works really good but the gtk drawing is soo slow and the cpu is almost of the time at 50%
[18:43] <nemo> net_mask: what's your graphics card?
[18:43] <net_mask> nvidia 9100mg
[18:43] <net_mask> well is included with the chipset
[18:44] <net_mask> im using the nvidia driver all the OpenGl things works relly good but the gtk drawings
[18:52] <nemo> net_mask: mind sharing your Xorg log file?
[18:52] <net_mask> sure
[18:53] <DanaG> !info pastebinit
[18:53] <DanaG> yay.
[18:54] <net_mask> http://paste.ubuntu.com/47843/
[18:54] <pibe86> i am back
[18:57] <nemo> net_mask: that's not your log file
[18:58] <net_mask> ooo one se
[18:59] <pibe86> i am backhello, any help for this http://paste.ubuntu.com/47845/ it happens while installing alternative cd
[19:18] <net_mask> dam i having some troubles with the paste.ubuntu.com
[19:18] <_Zeus_> skype just stopped working
[19:19] <_Zeus_> intrepid 8.10a5, x64 system.  i'll paste the error
[19:21] <_Zeus_> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:26] <DanaG> Ugh, I keep getting quite a lot of underruns.
[19:26] <DanaG> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Underrun!
[19:29] <e\ectro__> does anyone else get errors in X that "Maximum number of clients reached" ?
[19:32] <pibe86> please help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5807299#post5807299
[19:49] <RyanPrior> I've got a question about the Firefox EULA plans for anybody who's in the loop. I hear that an EULA, per se, may be ruled out -- but will there still be a pop-up on first run?
[19:50] <PolitikerNEU> I thought the EULA would only be changed, but has to be displayed anyway
[19:50] <PolitikerNEU> But there is abrowser, a non-branded firefox without eula, for all ubuntu-users
[19:55] <Pici> Take a look at bug 269656
[19:57] <Rotlaus> I just tried Intrepid on my Netbook. On the gdm login screen keyboard is not working. I can switch with ALT-F1 (NOT ALT-CTL-F1) from the login screen to a console. How can i check what is broken? I don't see errors int the X Log.
[19:58] <Rotlaus> Touchpad is working, external USB Mouse not.
[20:03] <RyanPrior> In case anybody else was wondering, I found the relevant link: http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/licensing-proposal/
[20:06] <_Zeus_> anyone know how to fix this error?
[20:06] <_Zeus_> matthew@POGO:/$ skype
[20:06] <_Zeus_> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:06] <_Zeus_> i'm running 8.10a5x64
[20:11] <DanaG> Heh, while using a USB audio device.... I get both overruns and underruns!
[20:18] <DanaG> Heh, I tried oss4... and it just hard-locked my system.
[20:18] <DanaG> Can't use it with PulseAudio, also.
[20:19] <_Zeus_> so no one knows why skype is being weitrd?
[20:19] <_Zeus_> i think it's an interpid issue
[20:19] <void^> there's 64bit skype?
[20:20] <_Zeus_> yes
[20:20] <_Zeus_> it was working fine yesterday
[20:20] <void^> !info libqt4-dbus
[20:20] <_Zeus_> now it gives that error.  i'm going to report a bug, i'm pretty sure it was an update that did it
[20:20] <_Zeus_> installed
[20:21] <_Zeus_> libqt4-dbus:
[20:21] <_Zeus_>   Installed: 4.4.1-0ubuntu2
[20:21] <_Zeus_>   Candidate: 4.4.1-0ubuntu2
[20:21] <_Zeus_> i used getlibs, everything i could find
[20:23] <void^> maybe i'm blind, can't see a 64bit download on their site
[20:23] <_Zeus_> from medibuntu
[20:23] <_Zeus_> it works fine on both architectures
[20:23] <_Zeus_> or it did
[20:24] <void^> well, are you sure it doesn't just install 32bit binaries?
[20:24] <_Zeus_> i have no idea, but i know i'm on an x64 system
[20:24] <_Zeus_> it probably does
[20:24] <_Zeus_> but they work anyway
[20:25] <void^> ia32-libs might be missing libqt4-dbus stuff
[20:25] <_Zeus_> i have ia32-libs installed, if that's what you mean
[20:30] <net_mask> hello wow here is my xorg log http://paste.ubuntu.com/47867/
[20:30] <_Zeus_> wanna tell us the problem?
[20:30] <_Zeus_> whoa
[20:30] <net_mask> jeje
[20:30] <_Zeus_> so what's the problem?
[20:31] <net_mask> the gtk refresh
[20:31] <net_mask> is soo slow
[20:31] <net_mask> the draw of widgets
[20:31] <net_mask> all the compiz open gl things works really fine
[20:31] <_Zeus_> paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:36] <net_mask> sry was a problem with my conection
[20:40] <net_mask> http://paste.ubuntu.com/47874/
[20:40] <net_mask> here are my xorg.conf
[20:43] <_Zeus_> k
[20:43] <_Zeus_> hmm... i don't see anything about refresh rate there
[20:43] <_Zeus_> have you tried reconfiguring your xorg.conf?
[20:44] <net_mask> yup
[20:45] <_Zeus_> hum
[20:45] <_Zeus_> i don't know what to tell you
[20:45] <net_mask> the refresh rate of the monitor influes on the gtk rendering?
[20:45] <net_mask> and i get a lot of glitches on the gtk applications
[20:46] <_Zeus_> you said it's refreshing too slowly
[20:47] <net_mask> well the drawing
[21:18] <Lynoure> I have Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG wifi card which has worked fine before, but Ibex live-cd just shows it as disabled. Any idea what to do?
[21:19] <Lynoure> hmm, seems I'm not the only one, and #270199 is about it
[21:26] <mattik> Lynoure: It worked me in installed system, but I didn't try live cd
[21:27] <Lynoure> mattik: in alpha5 too?
[21:27] <mattik> I have reported bug about it in hardy
[21:27] <Lynoure> Worked fine for me in hardy...
[21:27] <mattik> Lynoure: They asked is my wireless working with new kernel
[21:28] <mattik> I updatet kernel and it worked. But I didn't try fresh install
[21:29] <Lynoure> mattik: Which kernel you have now?
[21:29] <mattik> I'm on second computer. But it was newest for intrepid
[21:30] <mattik> what is your kernel?
[21:31] <mattik> I could try and confirm if you need
[21:31] <Lynoure> 2.6.27-2-generic (just livecd still)
[21:32] <mattik> Lynoure: 64 bit or 32 bit
[21:32] <Lynoure> oh, not a kernel bug, says the guy in this... hmm
[21:32] <Lynoure> 32
[21:33] <mattik> I have had problems in firs connecting to wireless network in Hardy and in Intrepid
[21:34] <mattik> network manager is not the best app what I know
[21:35] <Lynoure> I haven't had much trouble with it... but now even iwconfig says "radio off" though it's not... not the best time for troubleshooting (sleepy)
[21:36] <mattik> ok
[21:36] <Lynoure> [   57.347638] ipw2200: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:
[21:36] <Lynoure> [   57.347641] Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.
[21:37] <Lynoure> But it's just not. At least if they mean the physical wlan off -thing
[21:37] <mattik> I download alpha 5 and try
[21:39] <aguitel> how install xmms in intrepid?
[21:39] <mattik> I have downloaded 64 bit version, but my laptop is 32biy
[21:39] <mattik> bit
[21:39] <kienzan__> hey guys
[21:43] <kienzan__> has anyone been trying to update compiz to 0.7.8?
[21:46] <laughtear> will the firefox gonna be fixed? (hi all)
[21:47] <laughtear> it's so very much slow and lockin
[21:53] <Lynoure> mattik: Which laptop you have, by the way? Seem that many laptops with non-physical killswitches have had this problem, alas HP NC8230 has a physical wlan kill switch and at least the led responds
[22:06] <mattik> Lynoure: Asus M6000, I have switch what I can disable/enable wireless. I go to sleep now. See you tomorrow
[22:10] <Lynoure> mattik: good night. I must sleep too.
[22:17] <larry_> what's the best message board for issues with Ubuntu 8.10?
[22:18] <zniavre> !nvidia
[22:18] <larry_> Also: I'm having problems with my system crashing really hard, multiple times per day.  When it happens the screen is dead, the keyboard and mouse are dead, and the Caps Lock light is flashing.  Is that a kernel panic?  And where might messages related to such a crash be logged?
[22:30] <bsnider> larry_ nowhere, most likely
[22:49] <__mikem> where can I get an ISO for the beta?
[23:04] <Bauldrick> this nvidia things driving me cookoo; I install 177.70 and add driver "nvidia" to xorg.conf and i get out of range on monitor, anything else I get 800x600
[23:05] <outbri> milkem: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/alpha-5/
[23:27] <zniavre> !nouveaux
[23:28] <RAOF> I think you're after
[23:28] <RAOF> !nouveau
[23:30] <zniavre> thank you
[23:31] <zniavre> Launchpad is offline for scheduled maintenance.           We should be back soon.         :o(
[23:31] <zniavre> does this experimental works with fx5500 ?
[23:32] <void^> should (or rather, might)  work. pretty much 2d only for now, though
[23:35] <ephracis> Hi, I am gonna make my first ubuntu package from the sources of my own project and put it on my PPA on launchpad. I am using cmake as the build system and so my question is: will I need to convert the build system to gnus autotools and gnu make instead?
[23:36] <ephracis> Maybe this is not the right place to ask such question, please point me to the right direction if so. :)
[23:38] <RAOF> zniavre: Yes, it should work.  It should work pretty well.
[23:38] <zniavre> 3d ?
[23:39] <RAOF> ephracis: No, you won't have to convert.  Also, no, this isn't the right place; #ubuntu-motu is likely to be better.
[23:39] <RAOF> zniavre: for some value of 3d.
[23:39] <ephracis> RAOF: thanks.
[23:39] <zniavre> wow RAOF thank you
[23:40] <RAOF> (nouveau's 3d support is best for nv4x - the fx is a nv3x.  Even the nv4x support is at the status of "we know a large class of things are broken, don't bug us")
[23:40] <zniavre> am i wrong or nvidia driver are quite broken now?
[23:41] <RAOF> I think you're wrong; the nvidia drivers are working fine for me.
[23:41] <zniavre> ho ?
[23:41] <zniavre> :o)
[23:41] <RAOF> Well, they were working fine a couple of days ago, when I was using them.
[23:41] <RAOF> You need the nvidia-glx-173 drivers, I believe; I think fx support was dropped from the -177 drivers.
[23:42] <RAOF> And you can't use the -96 or -78 drivers, because they don't support our X server.
[23:42] <zniavre> yep this i knews before
[23:42] <zniavre> but i can't managed them working
[23:42] <RAOF> I _believe_ the 173 drivers should work for you.  I certainly don't know of a reason why they shouldn't.
[23:42] <zniavre> mee too  :o)
[23:43] <zniavre> i ll try another time if i can't i ll try nouveau  (at least something new to learn)
[23:44] <zniavre> thank you for answering
[23:53] <__mikem> the new human theme is nice but the round corners on the windows still have pixelation and it still feels arhaic
[23:54] <outbri> __mikem: so you got the iso to work?
[23:54] <__mikem> outbri: yes
[23:55] <__mikem> The problem is, this is hardly the nice shiney new UI I was promiced.
[23:55] <outbri> __mikem: quick download. you should be able to change the window edges with compiz
[23:56] <__mikem> outbri: I understand, but the fact is, It is my oppinon that i really shouldn't have to do that. It should be good to go out of the box