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seb128hello mvo09:01
mvohey seb12809:01
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leenuksHello everyone10:03
seb128hi leenuks10:03
leenuksCan someone direct me to where i can change my panel bar auto hide speed. they are too slow and not snappy enough.10:03
leenuksive opened the configuration manager but as yet havent found the setting10:04
seb128leenuks: gconf-editor10:04
seb128search for animation_speed10:04
seb128change this one to fast and the delays to lower values too10:05
seb128you can disable animations too10:05
seb128that should make things smoother10:05
leenuksturning animations off in ccsm does nothing10:09
leenuksas for animation_speed a search with find in gconf editor gives nothing10:09
seb128did you select the option to search in key names?10:09
leenuksthere we go.. that found it.. hehe10:10
leenuksthanks btw10:11
leenuks2010:13
leenuksoops wrong keyboard10:13
leenuksdoesnt matter what i set it to the panel speed stays the same.10:15
leenuksshould i restart GDM10:16
leenuksnah that did nothing as well10:16
seb128dunno then10:17
seb128vuntz might know10:17
leenuks*pokes vuntz* oi10:18
leenukslol10:18
vuntzlalala10:26
leenuksoh hi vuntz10:27
vuntzleenuks: is the animation slow or the time before the animation starts too long?10:27
leenuksit takes 2 seconds to show and changing the speed from 500 to 20 does nothing10:27
vuntzwhich speed?10:28
vuntzand 2 seconds sound awfully anormal10:28
leenuksalso if i turn off visual effects and set them to none it does the same thing so i dont think its compiz10:28
leenuksi want it to snap up not slowly slide up10:28
vuntzleenuks: what did you change?10:28
leenuksjust a sec. i just restarted gdm10:29
vuntzleenuks: /apps/panel/toplevels/bottom_panel_screen0/hide_delay and unhide_delay is what you want10:29
vuntz(where you replace bottom_panel_screen0 with something else)10:29
leenuksi changed /apps/panel/global/panel_animation_speed10:30
leenuksthere we go the one you suggested worked a charm. thanks bud10:31
leenuksinstand pop up10:31
leenuksone more setting for the notebook10:32
ftaseb128, would you mind have a look at http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/debdiff/fontconfig_2.6.0-1ubuntu3--2.6.0-1ubuntu4.debdiff ?10:53
seb128fta: looks good, some people already changed the makefiles directly in the diff.gz which is a bit ugly though10:59
ftayep, i agree. i wanted the change to be minimal so it did it that way. i should be cleaned-up at some point11:00
fta-i+it11:00
seb128the diff looks good to me, can you attach it to the bug and subscribe the sponsor team?11:03
ftasure11:03
ftaseb128, done11:06
seb128mvo: bug #271147, what do you ask for such issues?11:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271147 in deskbar-applet "package deskbar-applet 2.22.3.1-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 139" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27114711:28
mvoseb128: that is one of the anyoing ones, 139 is a segfault I think (128+11) - I usually ask for files in ls -l /var/crash in the hope to find the crashed thing11:29
mvoseb128: but it looks reproducable for him (a lot of those crashes)11:30
mvoseb128: so we could ask for "sudo sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/desktbar-applet.postinst configure"11:30
seb128mvo: do you want to do it or should I add a comment?11:30
mvoseb128: I can take it11:31
seb128mvo: thanks11:31
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mvoseb128: its either scrollkeeper-update or update-icon-caches that fail I think, the postrm is pretty short11:33
* mvo suspects scrollkeeper11:33
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seb128mvo: would not be the first time ;-)11:37
mvoheh :)11:37
seb128mvo: would it be possible to somewhat detect what crashed during the upgrade time to provide extra informations in such bugs?11:39
seb128mvo: usually when a software crashes there is a message on stdout or strerr, is apt filtering those out?11:39
mvoapt should not filter them out, it should print exactly what the users sees on his terminal into the log (this is why there is this whole crazy pty code in dpkgpm.cc now)11:41
mvoextra information> good point, I can check if it is possible to detect that can scan /var/crash or something11:42
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pochuhi all12:27
MacSlowdoes a "apt-get upgrade" imply a configure of previously unfinished package-installs?14:30
tedgMacSlow: I'm not sure, but usually if I keep tying "apt" and "dpkg" eventually it usually tells me the command I need to type :)14:37
mvoMacSlow: please try sudo apt-get install -f14:38
tedgmvo: I think that my way is less to remember long term ;)14:39
MacSlowtedg, mvo: ok14:39
mvoMacSlow: out of curiosity, what happend?14:40
MacSlowmvo, nothing on my systems14:41
MacSlowmvo, a girl-friend just did a panic-called ... she interrupted an automatic update *cough*14:48
mvoMacSlow: aha, ok. if it is hardy, then update-manager should be able to recover, she may want to try that first14:49
mvo(all with UI etc)14:49
andreasnMacSlow: a girl-friend? one of several? bigamist all of a sudden?14:49
andreasn:P14:49
MacSlowmvo, well she told me that everything except fonts seem to work.14:50
MacSlowmvo, so the system does not seem to be that badly damanged14:50
MacSlowandreasn, not my girl-friend ... just a girl-friend14:50
andreasnah, a friend who is a girl14:51
andreasnsorry, just couldn't resist :)14:51
mvoandreasn: "all of a sudden" :P14:52
andreasnmvo: overnight you know...14:52
mvoheh :)14:53
andreasnthere is also this tv-series, hm, Big Love from HBO that could have been a source of inspiration14:54
andreasnanyway, I should stop being silly and get back to work14:54
MacSlowmvo, xfonts-scalealbe seems to be the only broken package14:56
mvoexcellent, then it should be little damage14:56
MacSlowoutch ... her network is gone *sigh*15:06
mvompt: could you please have a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-app-install/+bug/263982 ?15:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 263982 in gnome-app-install "Maintenance text is very hard to read" [Undecided,New]15:19
mvompt: what can we do to make it easier to read?15:19
MacSlowmvo, larger font ;)15:24
andreasnmvo: you want some way to imply that the support part is less important than the description of the package, right?15:27
mvoandreasn: yes15:27
andreasnmvo: if this was a website, I would have made the support text black, but using a smaller font15:28
andreasnI think we use that in various parts of the desktop as well, where description text is smaller than the regular text15:29
* mvo nods15:36
mvoI will try that15:36
mvoand see what it looks like15:36
andreasnsmaller text is of course harder to read than normal-sized text, but it don't look inactive and I guess it reacts to the system font settings (ie. if you have a hard time reading small stuff because you're old or something it's fixable)15:38
Ngwho would be a good person to pester about bug 271305 when main is unfrozen again? the patch is a one-liner that shouldn't afaics be able to break anything at all15:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271305 in libgphoto2 "[intrepid] Apple iPhone 3G not supported" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27130515:39
seb128Ng: subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors?15:41
Ngseb128: oki doki, ta :)15:41
seb128Ng: and to reply to the question, usually pitti looks after libgphoto updates15:42
* Ng nods, thanks for the pointers :)15:43
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Ngseb128: I think bug 196757 exists in Intrepid too16:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 196757 in gvfs "camera automount prevents import" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19675716:55
NgI've only tested with one device so far though16:57
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seb128Ng: yes it does, not building the gvfs-gphoto backend was a workaround for hardy18:03
Ngseb128: should I re-open it or something?18:04
seb128Ng: no, that's the right bug18:06
seb128Ng: let me have a look18:06
Ngok18:06
Ngthanks :)18:06
seb128Ng: ah, found it, bug #25808318:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 258083 in f-spot "F-Spot - Error connecting to camera.  "Could not lock the device"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25808318:14
Ngseb128: yeah that sounds right18:14
seb128tedg: hi18:28
seb128tedg: are you working on the gnome-screensaver 2.23.90 update?18:28
tedgseb128: It hasn't come up on the GNOME FTP RSS feed yet.18:31
tedgseb128: But, I can, I didn't realize it's out.18:31
seb128tedg: it's available since aug 28, I think you rather missed it18:32
seb128tedg: I doubt it'll show on the rss now ;-)18:32
seb128tedg: thanks18:32
tedgAh, okay.  That makes more sense :)18:32
mvoseb128: did you had a chance to test the guest login fix for compiz btw?18:47
seb128mvo: I didn't upgrade yet today but I'll give it a try and let you know19:39

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