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iahello, everybody. Could you tell me please, does exists some howto about installing ubuntu mobile at nokia internet tablets (such as n800/n810)? Is that possible to install ubuntu mobile at this devices?01:00
iaoh, i've already found answer to my question: "Ubuntu does not currently provide ARM binaries for any flavour." :-)01:02
persiaogra: When you are around, please consider merging  lp:~persia/ubuntu-seeds/mobile.intrepid06:11
theseinfeldlool08:37
theseinfeldlool, you changed the xserver-xorg-video-psb to get the redirection to libexa.so.xserver-xorg-core08:38
theseinfeldlool now I am getting a strange error when starting X on the hardware: failed to load module Xpsb module does not exist. Any idea why?08:38
ograStevenK, did you catch my paste with the launcher code yesterday ?10:35
ograpersia, done10:35
StevenKogra: Yes10:36
ogragood10:36
StevenKogra: http://people.ubuntu.com/~stevenk/IMG_2095.JPG10:36
ograSWEET !!10:37
StevenKogra: And http://people.ubuntu.com/~stevenk/IMG_2096.JPG10:37
ograwow10:38
StevenKogra: With a large license notice, it's less than 100 lines of Python10:38
ograyeah :)10:38
StevenKNow, tell me I'm awesome :-P10:39
ograif i'm back from berlin i'll care for some gtkrc hacking so we get wide scrollbars 10:39
ograyoure awesome StevenK \o/10:39
StevenK:-D10:39
ograhow long does it take to start up ? 10:40
ograi tested my old code yesterday when i found it again and noticed it easily takes 20sec10:40
ograbut that might be the odd way of parsing the .menu files10:41
StevenKUm. Not sure10:45
StevenKhildon-desktop is a pig itself, so not much on top of that10:45
ograyep10:46
ogradid you try wth 36px icons instead of 48px ? that could give us 5 in a row and get rid of the big whitespace on the right 10:46
StevenKThat's 64 pixels10:47
ograoh10:47
ograanother option would be to put the iconview in a hbox and add something on the left and right sides ... i guess it looks better if centerd10:47
ogra*centered10:48
ograthough that will get hard with wallpapers ... 10:48
StevenKI'd rather it was transparent, too, but I couldn't do that10:50
ograwell, we need a ui for setting background colors and/or wallapers that appl to teh iconview i guess10:51
StevenKWe have one, it just works below that10:51
Celtiorehi10:51
ograbgcol = gtk.gdk.color_parse('#584c40')10:51
ografgcol = gtk.gdk.color_parse('#ffffff')10:51
ograiconview.modify_base(gtk.STATE_NORMAL, bgcol)10:51
ograiconview.modify_text(gtk.STATE_NORMAL, fgcol)10:51
ografrom my code 10:51
ograiconview.modify_base is the background10:52
StevenKI think it gets set in gconf, so I'll look at it tomorrow10:52
StevenKogra: Yes, I've already done it.10:52
ograah, k :)10:52
Celtioreogra, i have one question please :p10:52
ograCeltiore, shoot10:52
Celtioredo you have infos about aigo p8860 and idctouch drivers for last kernel version ? 10:53
ograCeltiore, apart from the fact that you come up quite often in a google search for it ? no ... :)10:54
Celtiorei find : http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.moblin.devel/25210:55
Celtiorelast time, persia says to ask to you10:55
ograyes, i try to get the X/hal side of things working10:56
ograthe prob with it is the closed driver 10:56
Celtioreyes, we need to wait gigabyte m528 perhaps ?10:57
ograif i dont get a /dev/input/eventX for it i cant do much about it 10:57
Celtioresome guys talk about ubuntu mobile on m52810:57
ograand that device is provided by udev if a working kernel driver exists10:57
ogrado you have the system working aart from that ? 10:58
ogra*apart10:58
Celtioreyes10:58
Celtioreone guys releases ubuntu 7.10 with idctouch drivers from orignal midinux aigo, and i put last 8.04.1 to test10:59
Celtiorei try the evtouch driver, but when i touch the screen, cursor move randomly11:00
Celtioresorry for my bad english :p11:00
ograoh, thats good11:00
ogra(randomly moving means you get events11:01
ogra)11:01
Celtioreyes11:01
ogrado you use the nid desktop or a normal ubuntu one ? 11:02
ograafaik the only working calibration tool we currently have is in miblin-applets11:02
ogra*moblin11:02
Celtioremid desktop11:02
Celtiorebut it's not a calibration problem11:03
Celtiorei have try the evtouch calibration tool, and nothing good11:03
ogranah, thats crap11:04
ograthe one from the mid desktop is working 11:04
ograi'll try to fix the evtouch one for intrepid but didnt come around to that yet11:05
Celtioreok11:05
ograStevenK, btw, are you happy with the joystick and buttons ?11:06
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StevenKogra: I've not checked :-)11:44
ogra:)11:44
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persiaogra: Thanks.  -mobile ought work on lpia now :)14:49
ogragreat 14:49
ogradid you see scotts screenshots ? 14:49
ograergh14:49
ograstevens 14:49
ogra*sigh*14:49
ograso sorry .... :/14:50
persiaYep.  I'm *very* excited.  I've been looking forward to seeing that for a couple months now.14:52
ograyou shuould have told me :P my old launcher would have worked already i bet14:53
ogranot as sweet as stevens but enough to show something 14:53
* ogra would love to finish that event translator for it at some point ... so we could get rid of all scrollbars 14:55
ogra(in the launcher only though)14:55
davmor2ogra: link?14:56
ografor the screenshot ? 14:56
ograhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~stevenk/IMG_2095.JPG14:56
ograand http://people.ubuntu.com/~stevenk/IMG_2096.JPG with selected category14:57
davmor2cool :)14:58
ograabout 100 lines of py code incl. license :)14:58
ograand properly using xdg14:59
ian_brasilmaybe i asked this already ..i forgot but anyway..in /usr/share/ume-config-common/ume-gui-start18:15
ian_brasil why is the matchbox theme hardcoded to mobilebasic18:15
ian_brasiland why does the matchbox theme.xml have lots of maemo images stillin it18:15
ian_brasilthings like qgn_plat_application_status_bar_background.png 18:16
persiaErm.  Maybe someone thought it was a good theme and didn't want to create a theme selector?  Also, perhaps the theme was created by copying something from Maemo and editing it?18:17
* persia doesn't know the real answer, and is just guessing18:17
persiaAnyway, ume-config-common was dropped for intrepid, so the next release oughtn't have that problem.18:17
persiaDo you see the same behaviour in the 8.10 images?18:18
ian_brasili will have a look18:18
persiaThanks.  I'm tempted to just ignore all the bugs in ume-config-common, unless they break some functionality significantly, as we've dropped the package, but I'm concerned about any behaviours that are undesireable.18:22
ian_brasilpersia: i am downloading the current image now..i pulled the source of hildon-theme-mobile-basic-0.37 which has these maemo images still in it which seems rather odd18:39
persiaThen the new image probably has it.  I'm not sure there's been any significant changes to hildon-theme-mobile-basic18:41
persiaAre the images non-free, or just suprisingly duplicated?18:41
ian_brasilthey are Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 i believe..maybe it is that ume does not use these dialog images and it busts gtkrc if you remove them18:43
persiaCould be.  I don't know much about themes, and I don't know that we've anyone specific who is chasing the themes and art for either of Ubuntu MID or Ubuntu Mobile.18:49
persiaIt's probably just leftovers because they happened to work and so there was no bug that attracted someone's attention.18:49
persiaIf you've a replacement .gtkrc that you think would work better, I'm sure that it could be reviewed.18:50
ian_brasili just changed the colors like style "osso-logical-colors" {18:52
ian_brasilcolor["DefaultTextColor"]        = "#303030"18:52
ian_brasilcolor["EmpTextColor"]            = "#204a87"18:52
ian_brasilcolor["PaintedDefaultTextColor"] = "#ffffff"18:52
ian_brasilcolor["DisabledTextColor"]       = "#babdb6"18:52
ian_brasilcolor["ProgressTextColor1"]      = "#000000"18:52
ian_brasilthe file is nearly 8000 lines long so a bit scary18:53
persiaYeah :)18:54
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robrsmagoun / tonyespy : ping22:21
smagounrobr: pong22:21
tonyespyrobr: pong 22:21
robrtonyespy / smagoun: hi. do you guys ever see that boot hang on menlow where during kernel startup the system hangs for a while and then continues booting after a period of time22:22
smagounrobr: yup22:22
robrhow frequently?22:22
smagounrobr: We saw it primarily (only?) on install22:22
smagounHappened almost always on install22:23
robrany chance you guys can try an experiment where you build the install boot kernel with the HPET timer disabled and see if it still happens?22:24
robrsmagoun: i guess that is a no22:26
tonyespyrobr: according to ChickenCutlass, we explicity has to set the hpet as the clock source to get past the hang22:27
smagounrobr: I think we've been doing that since Feb. Checking now22:27
tonyespyrobr: i'll leave to smagoun though...22:27
smagounrobr: tony's right - we use clocksource=hpet:22:28
smagounusb_kernel_cmdline = initrd=initrd.img boot=usb clocksource=hpet22:28
smagounrobr: you're suggesting that we *not* use the HPET instead?22:29
robrsmagoun: so with the clocksource=hpet, you don't see the boot hang issue?22:29
smagounrobr: correct22:29
robrsmagoun: i'm trying to find out if the boot hang problem you see is related to an hpet timer issue22:30
robrand issue in the chipset22:30

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