ia | hello, everybody. Could you tell me please, does exists some howto about installing ubuntu mobile at nokia internet tablets (such as n800/n810)? Is that possible to install ubuntu mobile at this devices? | 01:00 |
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ia | oh, i've already found answer to my question: "Ubuntu does not currently provide ARM binaries for any flavour." :-) | 01:02 |
persia | ogra: When you are around, please consider merging lp:~persia/ubuntu-seeds/mobile.intrepid | 06:11 |
theseinfeld | lool | 08:37 |
theseinfeld | lool, you changed the xserver-xorg-video-psb to get the redirection to libexa.so.xserver-xorg-core | 08:38 |
theseinfeld | lool now I am getting a strange error when starting X on the hardware: failed to load module Xpsb module does not exist. Any idea why? | 08:38 |
ogra | StevenK, did you catch my paste with the launcher code yesterday ? | 10:35 |
ogra | persia, done | 10:35 |
StevenK | ogra: Yes | 10:36 |
ogra | good | 10:36 |
StevenK | ogra: http://people.ubuntu.com/~stevenk/IMG_2095.JPG | 10:36 |
ogra | SWEET !! | 10:37 |
StevenK | ogra: And http://people.ubuntu.com/~stevenk/IMG_2096.JPG | 10:37 |
ogra | wow | 10:38 |
StevenK | ogra: With a large license notice, it's less than 100 lines of Python | 10:38 |
ogra | yeah :) | 10:38 |
StevenK | Now, tell me I'm awesome :-P | 10:39 |
ogra | if i'm back from berlin i'll care for some gtkrc hacking so we get wide scrollbars | 10:39 |
ogra | youre awesome StevenK \o/ | 10:39 |
StevenK | :-D | 10:39 |
ogra | how long does it take to start up ? | 10:40 |
ogra | i tested my old code yesterday when i found it again and noticed it easily takes 20sec | 10:40 |
ogra | but that might be the odd way of parsing the .menu files | 10:41 |
StevenK | Um. Not sure | 10:45 |
StevenK | hildon-desktop is a pig itself, so not much on top of that | 10:45 |
ogra | yep | 10:46 |
ogra | did you try wth 36px icons instead of 48px ? that could give us 5 in a row and get rid of the big whitespace on the right | 10:46 |
StevenK | That's 64 pixels | 10:47 |
ogra | oh | 10:47 |
ogra | another option would be to put the iconview in a hbox and add something on the left and right sides ... i guess it looks better if centerd | 10:47 |
ogra | *centered | 10:48 |
ogra | though that will get hard with wallpapers ... | 10:48 |
StevenK | I'd rather it was transparent, too, but I couldn't do that | 10:50 |
ogra | well, we need a ui for setting background colors and/or wallapers that appl to teh iconview i guess | 10:51 |
StevenK | We have one, it just works below that | 10:51 |
Celtiore | hi | 10:51 |
ogra | bgcol = gtk.gdk.color_parse('#584c40') | 10:51 |
ogra | fgcol = gtk.gdk.color_parse('#ffffff') | 10:51 |
ogra | iconview.modify_base(gtk.STATE_NORMAL, bgcol) | 10:51 |
ogra | iconview.modify_text(gtk.STATE_NORMAL, fgcol) | 10:51 |
ogra | from my code | 10:51 |
ogra | iconview.modify_base is the background | 10:52 |
StevenK | I think it gets set in gconf, so I'll look at it tomorrow | 10:52 |
StevenK | ogra: Yes, I've already done it. | 10:52 |
ogra | ah, k :) | 10:52 |
Celtiore | ogra, i have one question please :p | 10:52 |
ogra | Celtiore, shoot | 10:52 |
Celtiore | do you have infos about aigo p8860 and idctouch drivers for last kernel version ? | 10:53 |
ogra | Celtiore, apart from the fact that you come up quite often in a google search for it ? no ... :) | 10:54 |
Celtiore | i find : http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.moblin.devel/252 | 10:55 |
Celtiore | last time, persia says to ask to you | 10:55 |
ogra | yes, i try to get the X/hal side of things working | 10:56 |
ogra | the prob with it is the closed driver | 10:56 |
Celtiore | yes, we need to wait gigabyte m528 perhaps ? | 10:57 |
ogra | if i dont get a /dev/input/eventX for it i cant do much about it | 10:57 |
Celtiore | some guys talk about ubuntu mobile on m528 | 10:57 |
ogra | and that device is provided by udev if a working kernel driver exists | 10:57 |
ogra | do you have the system working aart from that ? | 10:58 |
ogra | *apart | 10:58 |
Celtiore | yes | 10:58 |
Celtiore | one guys releases ubuntu 7.10 with idctouch drivers from orignal midinux aigo, and i put last 8.04.1 to test | 10:59 |
Celtiore | i try the evtouch driver, but when i touch the screen, cursor move randomly | 11:00 |
Celtiore | sorry for my bad english :p | 11:00 |
ogra | oh, thats good | 11:00 |
ogra | (randomly moving means you get events | 11:01 |
ogra | ) | 11:01 |
Celtiore | yes | 11:01 |
ogra | do you use the nid desktop or a normal ubuntu one ? | 11:02 |
ogra | afaik the only working calibration tool we currently have is in miblin-applets | 11:02 |
ogra | *moblin | 11:02 |
Celtiore | mid desktop | 11:02 |
Celtiore | but it's not a calibration problem | 11:03 |
Celtiore | i have try the evtouch calibration tool, and nothing good | 11:03 |
ogra | nah, thats crap | 11:04 |
ogra | the one from the mid desktop is working | 11:04 |
ogra | i'll try to fix the evtouch one for intrepid but didnt come around to that yet | 11:05 |
Celtiore | ok | 11:05 |
ogra | StevenK, btw, are you happy with the joystick and buttons ? | 11:06 |
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StevenK | ogra: I've not checked :-) | 11:44 |
ogra | :) | 11:44 |
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persia | ogra: Thanks. -mobile ought work on lpia now :) | 14:49 |
ogra | great | 14:49 |
ogra | did you see scotts screenshots ? | 14:49 |
ogra | ergh | 14:49 |
ogra | stevens | 14:49 |
ogra | *sigh* | 14:49 |
ogra | so sorry .... :/ | 14:50 |
persia | Yep. I'm *very* excited. I've been looking forward to seeing that for a couple months now. | 14:52 |
ogra | you shuould have told me :P my old launcher would have worked already i bet | 14:53 |
ogra | not as sweet as stevens but enough to show something | 14:53 |
* ogra would love to finish that event translator for it at some point ... so we could get rid of all scrollbars | 14:55 | |
ogra | (in the launcher only though) | 14:55 |
davmor2 | ogra: link? | 14:56 |
ogra | for the screenshot ? | 14:56 |
ogra | http://people.ubuntu.com/~stevenk/IMG_2095.JPG | 14:56 |
ogra | and http://people.ubuntu.com/~stevenk/IMG_2096.JPG with selected category | 14:57 |
davmor2 | cool :) | 14:58 |
ogra | about 100 lines of py code incl. license :) | 14:58 |
ogra | and properly using xdg | 14:59 |
ian_brasil | maybe i asked this already ..i forgot but anyway..in /usr/share/ume-config-common/ume-gui-start | 18:15 |
ian_brasil | why is the matchbox theme hardcoded to mobilebasic | 18:15 |
ian_brasil | and why does the matchbox theme.xml have lots of maemo images stillin it | 18:15 |
ian_brasil | things like qgn_plat_application_status_bar_background.png | 18:16 |
persia | Erm. Maybe someone thought it was a good theme and didn't want to create a theme selector? Also, perhaps the theme was created by copying something from Maemo and editing it? | 18:17 |
* persia doesn't know the real answer, and is just guessing | 18:17 | |
persia | Anyway, ume-config-common was dropped for intrepid, so the next release oughtn't have that problem. | 18:17 |
persia | Do you see the same behaviour in the 8.10 images? | 18:18 |
ian_brasil | i will have a look | 18:18 |
persia | Thanks. I'm tempted to just ignore all the bugs in ume-config-common, unless they break some functionality significantly, as we've dropped the package, but I'm concerned about any behaviours that are undesireable. | 18:22 |
ian_brasil | persia: i am downloading the current image now..i pulled the source of hildon-theme-mobile-basic-0.37 which has these maemo images still in it which seems rather odd | 18:39 |
persia | Then the new image probably has it. I'm not sure there's been any significant changes to hildon-theme-mobile-basic | 18:41 |
persia | Are the images non-free, or just suprisingly duplicated? | 18:41 |
ian_brasil | they are Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 i believe..maybe it is that ume does not use these dialog images and it busts gtkrc if you remove them | 18:43 |
persia | Could be. I don't know much about themes, and I don't know that we've anyone specific who is chasing the themes and art for either of Ubuntu MID or Ubuntu Mobile. | 18:49 |
persia | It's probably just leftovers because they happened to work and so there was no bug that attracted someone's attention. | 18:49 |
persia | If you've a replacement .gtkrc that you think would work better, I'm sure that it could be reviewed. | 18:50 |
ian_brasil | i just changed the colors like style "osso-logical-colors" { | 18:52 |
ian_brasil | color["DefaultTextColor"] = "#303030" | 18:52 |
ian_brasil | color["EmpTextColor"] = "#204a87" | 18:52 |
ian_brasil | color["PaintedDefaultTextColor"] = "#ffffff" | 18:52 |
ian_brasil | color["DisabledTextColor"] = "#babdb6" | 18:52 |
ian_brasil | color["ProgressTextColor1"] = "#000000" | 18:52 |
ian_brasil | the file is nearly 8000 lines long so a bit scary | 18:53 |
persia | Yeah :) | 18:54 |
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robr | smagoun / tonyespy : ping | 22:21 |
smagoun | robr: pong | 22:21 |
tonyespy | robr: pong | 22:21 |
robr | tonyespy / smagoun: hi. do you guys ever see that boot hang on menlow where during kernel startup the system hangs for a while and then continues booting after a period of time | 22:22 |
smagoun | robr: yup | 22:22 |
robr | how frequently? | 22:22 |
smagoun | robr: We saw it primarily (only?) on install | 22:22 |
smagoun | Happened almost always on install | 22:23 |
robr | any chance you guys can try an experiment where you build the install boot kernel with the HPET timer disabled and see if it still happens? | 22:24 |
robr | smagoun: i guess that is a no | 22:26 |
tonyespy | robr: according to ChickenCutlass, we explicity has to set the hpet as the clock source to get past the hang | 22:27 |
smagoun | robr: I think we've been doing that since Feb. Checking now | 22:27 |
tonyespy | robr: i'll leave to smagoun though... | 22:27 |
smagoun | robr: tony's right - we use clocksource=hpet: | 22:28 |
smagoun | usb_kernel_cmdline = initrd=initrd.img boot=usb clocksource=hpet | 22:28 |
smagoun | robr: you're suggesting that we *not* use the HPET instead? | 22:29 |
robr | smagoun: so with the clocksource=hpet, you don't see the boot hang issue? | 22:29 |
smagoun | robr: correct | 22:29 |
robr | smagoun: i'm trying to find out if the boot hang problem you see is related to an hpet timer issue | 22:30 |
robr | and issue in the chipset | 22:30 |
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