| knoppix_ | TheSheep, this is nubuntu, i was here earlier talking to you about this issue. Changing to a usb keyboard helped somewhat on this machine, but still can't boot xubuntu or ubuntu live cd for some reason. i put this knoppix live disk on and i wonder if anyone could help me retrieve my friends windows files using knoppix. the hard drive partition that contains the files is appearing on this desktop, but i'm kind of a newb. to retrieve and copy the fil | 01:50 |
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| knoppix_ | es, i need to 'mount' that partition, right?? could anyone help me walk through this? | 01:50 |
| favro | right click the partitions icon and select mount | 01:51 |
| favro | right click again and change read/write access | 01:52 |
| knoppix_ | favro, what do i want to change the access to? | 01:57 |
| favro | knoppix_: you want to make it writable so you can access it | 01:58 |
| knoppix_ | ok, i did the first mount, now the live disk is spinning and spinning | 01:58 |
| favro | knoppix_: if the hd is large it might take a min or two | 01:59 |
| favro | the live disk is spinning 'cause it is doing work for you :) | 02:00 |
| knoppix_ | favro, the remount command failed. Maybe there is another process accessing the filesystem currently. | 02:00 |
| favro | knoppix_: I don't use windows but have heard that if windows isn't shut down right accessing it can be hard - maybe ##windows might help? | 02:01 |
| knoppix_ | no, i not running windows at all, i have a knoppix live cd running, cause ubuntu nor xubuntu would load properly on this machine. | 02:02 |
| favro | "retrieve my friends windows files" - the disk you want to access is windows right? | 02:04 |
| knoppix_ | yes, his dell crashed, and we're tryihg to retrieve his files to go ahead and install linux | 02:06 |
| knoppix_ | but i'm running knoppix livecd | 02:07 |
| favro | well from what I've read accessing a crashed windows install isn't staightforward - but again I've not used windows in years - someone here or in ##windows might no about that | 02:07 |
| favro | s/no/know/ | 02:08 |
| knoppix_ | k, thanks for trying | 02:08 |
| knoppix_ | i doubt they would know how to help in windows room | 02:13 |
| favro | someone in #ubuntu might have the experience with this | 02:14 |
| favro | maybe | 02:14 |
| knoppix_ | k, lemme try | 02:15 |
| filipegatti_ | helo | 03:03 |
| danopia`` | bai | 03:03 |
| filipegatti_ | i'm having a big trouble in watching videos. all videos i try to run display in a strange way, like brightness at 100%, its just impossible to watch. | 03:03 |
| favro | is that with one vid player or others as well? | 03:10 |
| filipegatti_ | all vid players | 03:13 |
| filipegatti_ | i tried a lot of them | 03:13 |
| filipegatti_ | vlc, mplayer, smplayer, totem | 03:14 |
| filipegatti_ | gxine | 03:14 |
| filipegatti_ | and its not only with .mkv (matroska) files, .avi as well. | 03:14 |
| favro | what vid card are you using? | 03:16 |
| favro | lspci | grep VGA will tell | 03:19 |
| filipegatti_ | vid card wait | 03:20 |
| filipegatti_ | Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller | 03:20 |
| favro | k I'll have a google :) | 03:21 |
| filipegatti_ | the strange is that some days ago it was working ok in totem, but not it just destroyed :D | 03:21 |
| Tony_ | DasEi, this is me do you see me? how to i get to the pm with you? | 03:24 |
| favro | can't find symptoms like that with google - I would run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg then logout/in and check a vid | 03:25 |
| favro | Tony_: DasEi isn't in the user list | 03:26 |
| filipegatti_ | favro, i think i'll do that.. wait a sec and i'll tell you | 03:27 |
| favro | k :) | 03:27 |
| marchelo | favro, what was the command you said to me later? (filipegatti_) | 03:30 |
| marchelo | :P | 03:30 |
| favro | sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg | 03:30 |
| marchelo | ok. wait up :D | 03:31 |
| filipegatti | favro, thanks, it worked :D | 03:34 |
| favro | well done :) | 03:34 |
| filipegatti | that's a nice command, need to put it in my notebool :P | 03:35 |
| filipegatti | ah, let me ask you one more thing | 03:35 |
| filipegatti | everytime I log in, it ask me to log in in a session, the only option I have is default or to create another one. I always choose default, is there a way to skip this screen? | 03:35 |
| favro | in the settings manager - login there are options - not using xfce4 atm - save session is what you need i believe | 03:37 |
| filipegatti | hmm, sometimes i think i need to search more on my own :( | 03:38 |
| filipegatti | thanks again :) | 03:38 |
| favro | np :) | 03:39 |
| filipegatti | favro, do you recommend a video player? | 03:42 |
| Odd-rationale | i like vlc | 03:43 |
| favro | I use vlc xine-ui and mplayer so I can play everything | 03:44 |
| favro | vlc won't play .flv here | 03:44 |
| filipegatti | hmm, i'll need to run some flv files | 03:44 |
| filipegatti | i'll get mplayer, i used it before and was nice :) | 03:45 |
| favro | :) | 03:46 |
| favro | I got my fuzzy clock working and showing on all desktops :) | 04:03 |
| Odd-rationale | what's a fuzzy clock? | 04:12 |
| Odd-rationale | favro? | 04:12 |
| favro | Odd-rationale: tells the time in words not numbers | 04:13 |
| favro | http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=datecl7.jpg - bottom left | 04:13 |
| favro | I used conky to show it on the desktop | 04:13 |
| filipegatti | favro, that's avant window navigator or a normal panel? | 04:14 |
| favro | it's xfce4-panel | 04:14 |
| filipegatti | got it | 04:15 |
| favro | I use fluxbox and xfce4-panel comes with thunar | 04:15 |
| Odd-rationale | favro: heard of qclock? | 04:15 |
| favro | Odd-rationale: nope ? | 04:15 |
| Odd-rationale | favro: http://www.nethack.net/qclock/ | 04:16 |
| Odd-rationale | favro: for more qclock quotes: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=46136 | 04:16 |
| favro | Odd-rationale: hahaa that looks cool :) | 04:17 |
| Odd-rationale | favro: pretty funny :P | 04:17 |
| Odd-rationale | i don't think there is a .deb though... | 04:17 |
| favro | Odd-rationale: I wrote a bash script for my fuzzy clock - I'm going to try and get random comments in it now! hehe | 04:18 |
| Odd-rationale | qclock stands for "queer clock" | 04:18 |
| Odd-rationale | favro: you should try to get qclock to display with your fuzzy clock... :D | 04:20 |
| favro | Odd-rationale: I'm reading here to add random comments - http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/randomvar.html | 04:22 |
| kriel | Okay, so. I got an ubuntu disk from my buddy to install onto my laptop, only to find out he forgot to write the X in front of the distro name on the disc. Oh well, stuff happens. But now I'm trying to apt-get install gnome and it's saying gnome-desktop-environment isn't going to be installed. apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment says gnome-keyring-manager is not installable. Is there a... | 04:23 |
| kriel | ...(relatively) easy way to convert xubuntu to use a gnome desktop, or am I just gonna have to go download (not x)ubuntu? | 04:23 |
| Odd-rationale | favro: where are you getting the quotes? | 04:23 |
| Odd-rationale | kriel: try installing ubuntu-desktop | 04:24 |
| favro | Odd-rationale: haven't got that far yet :) | 04:24 |
| Odd-rationale | kriel: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 04:24 |
| Odd-rationale | kriel: oh. and before you do that do: sudo apt-get update | 04:24 |
| kriel | woot, no dependency issues. Thanks! | 04:25 |
| kriel | already done. | 04:25 |
| Odd-rationale | kriel: cool. after all that (bloat) is installed, just choose gnome in the session menu from the login screen. | 04:25 |
| kriel | In other news: Who do I talk to about smacking xorg around? Do I speak to #(x)ubuntu in general, or should I head over to #xorg ? | 04:25 |
| kriel | Odd-rationale: bloat it may be, but it's bloat that's at least semi-intuitive; at least, to me it is. | 04:26 |
| Odd-rationale | kriel: either, if it might be more *buntu specific, then #ubuntu probably... | 04:26 |
| Odd-rationale | kriel: i was just joking of course... :P | 04:27 |
| kriel | Odd-rationale: Mmkay. Thank you. ^^ | 04:28 |
| kriel | Oh, hey. What do you know. -blinks at network settings box- I found the wireless configs. -facepalm- | 04:29 |
| Odd-rationale | aww... too bad. xfce4.6 won't make it until the jaunty jackalope release... :( | 04:30 |
| kriel | So, I decided to stick with xfce (mostly because I don't feel like waiting for bloody gnome to download, and I found the wifi configuration buttons.) However, my Xorg still isn't working. Here, have a screeny. http://eri.imgoing.thruhere.net/upload/xfcescreen.png I can still move windows over into the 'not desktop' area, however the toolbars are... out there. Any idea if this is an xfce or... | 04:44 |
| kriel | ...a xorg problem? | 04:44 |
| favro | kriel: right click the panel and select customize panel - set them both as fixed and non floating | 04:49 |
| kriel | Woah, wierd. | 04:50 |
| favro | wierd ? | 04:50 |
| kriel | inside customize panel, there are two monitor settings, 1 and 2. 2 sets the bar to its correct place. | 04:51 |
| kriel | I think I have two overlapping screens | 04:51 |
| favro | kriel: you have two panels - top and bottom | 04:51 |
| kriel | nono, it says there are two monitors. | 04:51 |
| kriel | if I click monitor 1, it's in the middle of the screen, but if I click 2, it puts the bars into the right place. | 04:52 |
| favro | kriel: there "might" be a virtual line in your xorg.conf file in the screen or monitor section comment it out | 04:52 |
| favro | ohh | 04:52 |
| kriel | http://pastebin.com/f67e55647 | 04:53 |
| kriel | This is on a laptop with a secondary vga port, hooking up a monitor to see its behavior | 04:56 |
| favro | kriel... | 05:02 |
| kriel_ | favro: hm? | 05:02 |
| === kriel_ is now known as kriel | ||
| favro | thought you'd gone :) the xorg.conf is pretty useless for diagnosing stuff in hardy - does xrandr tell you options for display? | 05:03 |
| kriel | it tells me lots of interesting stuff, but most of it's gibberish to me | 05:04 |
| kriel | though I understand there's VGA connected and a LVDS connected. For some reason it seems to be drawing the VGA stuff on the LVDS screen...? | 05:05 |
| * kriel is taking shots in the dark | 05:05 | |
| favro | you might need xinerama | 05:05 |
| favro | !xinerama | 05:05 |
| ubottu | xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead | 05:05 |
| kriel | oh, hey, ubottu lives here, too. Hi! | 05:06 |
| favro | !twinview | for nvidia | 05:06 |
| ubottu | for nvidia: twinview is a feature provided by nvidia cards, which can be configured with nvidia-settings | 05:06 |
| kriel | no, it's not an nvidia card. It's an intel. | 05:06 |
| kriel | alright, thank you favro. | 05:07 |
| favro | kriel: do you know the vid card model - there might be a howto | 05:07 |
| kriel | I have to get going (I've got this thing called work in the morning, it kinda sucks) but thank you for all the help. I'll take a look at xinerama, and I'll certainly be back in here if it breaks. | 05:08 |
| favro | lspci | grep VGA will tell | 05:08 |
| kriel | for the record, it's an Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller | 05:09 |
| kriel | Thank you again for all the help. | 05:09 |
| * kriel bows towards favro. And Odd-rationale, for helping earlier. | 05:09 | |
| kriel | Seeya later. | 05:11 |
| J-n | I'm not using xubuntu, but was wondering if with the default install if there is a way to search for a file, using the GUI? | 05:14 |
| favro | I've never even tried that - cli ftw hehe | 05:17 |
| J-n | lol it's just someone in #ubuntu is ... complainin' lol ... and i'd like to help... i suspect thunar does it... but i dont have a copy installed to tell him lol.. | 05:18 |
| cody-somerville | J-n, Thunar doesn't have built in search... yet | 05:20 |
| cody-somerville | J-n, I imagine we'll see that in Jaunty | 05:21 |
| cody-somerville | However, for Intrepid, we have the catfish tool | 05:21 |
| cody-somerville | IF he is using Hardy, I might recommend him installing that package. | 05:21 |
| J-n | cody-somerville: he is using hardy | 05:22 |
| J-n | cody-somerville: though, he's starting to seriously grate on my nerves... lol... not sure if i WANT to help him anymore lol | 05:23 |
| cody-somerville | doh : ( | 05:23 |
| * cody-somerville encourages deep breaths. :) | 05:23 | |
| J-n | cody-somerville: reminded him 2x that i'm just a guy who came here to ask a few questions myself lol | 05:23 |
| cody-somerville | You say he is an Xubuntu user? Maybe you could politely point him to this channel and I can try to help him? | 05:24 |
| cody-somerville | If he is giving you the "how could you make it this hard to do this? Its all your fault, blah blah blah" rant, just point him to me - I'm the person he'll want to blame ;] | 05:25 |
| J-n | cody-somerville: sadly while i was here venting to you, he seems to have disapeared :( | 05:25 |
| cody-somerville | doh. | 05:25 |
| cody-somerville | Ahwell, thanks for trying J-n. Greatly appreciated! :) | 05:25 |
| J-n | well, since i've got ya here, and talkin... mind if i ask you in what situations would you recomend xfce over kde or gnome? | 05:26 |
| favro | I'd recommend xubuntu over ubuntu just on the wallpaper... | 05:27 |
| J-n | very strange... | 05:29 |
| favro | why is debtags using all my cpu? | 05:29 |
| favro | seen ubuntu hardy's wallpaper? | 05:30 |
| J-n | I go to www.xubuntu.org/get#hardy and i get DL links for Gutsy and dapper. lol | 05:30 |
| favro | cody-somerville: ^^ | 05:31 |
| cody-somerville | What the... | 05:32 |
| J-n | only page i can get 8.04 from is when i click on the Xubuntu8.04.1 released link... but no link to the 8.04.1 DL | 05:33 |
| cody-somerville | I will fix that right now | 05:33 |
| cody-somerville | I wonder when the get page got like that | 05:34 |
| cody-somerville | I'm positive we updated it for 8.04.1 | 05:34 |
| J-n | i hope VERY recently | 05:34 |
| J-n | http://xubuntu.org/news/hardy.1/release -- is the only place i can find the link for 8.04 | 05:34 |
| J-n | but no 8.04.1 | 05:34 |
| J-n | lol but i'll be grabbing it via torrent anyway .. and i can find that np :) | 05:36 |
| J-n | god i love torrents that max my dl speed. | 05:37 |
| J-n | praise be to the seeders. | 05:37 |
| cody-somerville | J-n, is the page good now? | 05:41 |
| J-n | beautiful! :D | 05:41 |
| pist0l-fish | hi all. Whenever I plug in my USB hard drive, (it is mounted) and two thunars open with the location of the hard drive mount... anyone getting a similar problem? | 05:42 |
| favro | pist0l-fish: nope - doesn't happen here | 05:48 |
| pist0l-fish | :( | 05:55 |
| pist0l-fish | favro: turns out two Thunar processes were running. pgrep Thunar returned two pids. Killed one, and now it's fine. I wonder if two Thunar processes will start every time I boot | 06:07 |
| pist0l-fish | going to find out right now | 06:07 |
| favro | k | 06:08 |
| pist0l-fish | seems like it went away. | 06:21 |
| pist0l-fish | Thanks. | 06:21 |
| favro | k again :) bye | 06:27 |
| jeanfredo | i have kind of a problem. i have installed a gtk2 theme on a 8.04 xu and only colors are applied. seems that he doesn't find the engine? i've installed all gtk2-engines to get sure, but this changes nothing. whats about this gtk2-engine-xfce. is this perhaps the only one which is used? do you have any hints for me? thank you in advance | 07:02 |
| jeanfredo | the theme came from xfce-look.org ... | 07:03 |
| favro | what parts of the theme aren't being used? or what makes you think they aren't? | 07:05 |
| jeanfredo | the screenshot looks different than my desktop | 07:08 |
| jeanfredo | for example the scrollbars are the basic ones here | 07:09 |
| favro | k - which parts - icons or buttons or... | 07:09 |
| favro | k | 07:09 |
| jeanfredo | i'll upload a screenshit | 07:09 |
| jeanfredo | shot | 07:10 |
| jeanfredo | :-D | 07:10 |
| J-n | lol | 07:10 |
| jeanfredo | thats the one i wanna use http://tinyurl.com/6ae9uc | 07:11 |
| favro | in the theme folder there will be a gtk2 folder that should have the scrollbar pic in it | 07:12 |
| Myrtti | "You will need the Rezlooks Engine and Pixmap Engine." | 07:13 |
| Myrtti | do you have those? | 07:13 |
| jeanfredo | no i dont | 07:15 |
| jeanfredo | this is an explanation | 07:15 |
| jeanfredo | but they aren't in repo :-/ | 07:15 |
| jeanfredo | so i'll get them otherwise | 07:16 |
| jeanfredo | ahhh | 07:17 |
| jeanfredo | i found a deb on gnome-look.org for ubuntu | 07:20 |
| jeanfredo | in the description they say it is for dapper | 07:20 |
| jeanfredo | does it matter? | 07:20 |
| favro | pixmaps is in the repos hang on | 07:20 |
| jeanfredo | its for rezlooks | 07:20 |
| favro | I dunno about that | 07:22 |
| jeanfredo | okay | 07:22 |
| jeanfredo | and what about pixmaps | 07:22 |
| jeanfredo | have no engine called like that in synaptic | 07:22 |
| qwerfd | hello | 07:23 |
| qwerfd | i know this isnt a specific xubuntu question but it seems that #ubuntu is flooded now-a-days | 07:23 |
| jeanfredo | what question | 07:24 |
| qwerfd | i rebooted my box and altered some bios settings. when i booted back up i wasnt auto connected to the network | 07:24 |
| qwerfd | i've tried fiddling with the nm-applet but its not connecting | 07:24 |
| jeanfredo | clean up /etc/network/interfaces | 07:25 |
| qwerfd | theres nothing in interfaces except for l0 | 07:25 |
| qwerfd | lo | 07:25 |
| favro | did you turn offethernet/change irqs? | 07:25 |
| qwerfd | nope... all i did was turn on SMART HD capabilities and one or two other power management related options | 07:26 |
| favro | jeanfredo: pixmap has a new name and trying to find it one min | 07:26 |
| qwerfd | i am used to manually editing /etc/network/interfaces but it seems that ubuntu doesnt like it when that file is manually altered | 07:27 |
| jeanfredo | qwerd: nm-applet dont like that | 07:27 |
| jeanfredo | thats the prob | 07:27 |
| qwerfd | me either... | 07:27 |
| favro | you need to restart networking when you do that | 07:28 |
| favro | sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart | 07:28 |
| qwerfd | k | 07:28 |
| qwerfd | that went fine | 07:28 |
| jeanfredo | favro: thanks | 07:28 |
| qwerfd | when i do ifup -a i get these 2 errors: | 07:29 |
| qwerfd | /etc/network/if-up.d/sendmail: line 44: /usr/share/sendmail/dynamic: No such file or directory | 07:29 |
| jeanfredo | favro: pixmaps sounds familiar to me | 07:29 |
| qwerfd | and, run-parts: /etc/network/if-up.d/sendmail exited with return code 1 | 07:29 |
| jeanfredo | favro: it should be in the repos, right? | 07:29 |
| favro | it should - just had to wait for vbox to fire up and check | 07:30 |
| jeanfredo | favro: okay | 07:30 |
| qwerfd | ironically on another xubuntu 8.04 box ifup doesnt give any errors and /usr/share/sendmail doesnt even exist | 07:30 |
| favro | !info gtk-engines-pixbuf | 07:33 |
| ubottu | Package gtk-engines-pixbuf does not exist in hardy | 07:33 |
| favro | !info gtk2-engines-pixbuf | 07:33 |
| ubottu | gtk2-engines-pixbuf (source: gtk+2.0): Pixbuf-based theme for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.9-3ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 309 kB, installed size 388 kB | 07:33 |
| favro | ^^used to be pixmaps | 07:33 |
| jeanfredo | this one i have | 07:35 |
| jeanfredo | doing a restart after all the other updates | 07:35 |
| jeanfredo | cya | 07:35 |
| qwerfd | any ideas? | 07:36 |
| qwerfd | bah nvm | 07:37 |
| qwerfd | its working now | 07:37 |
| qwerfd | i guess those sendmail scripts were not supposed to be there.... | 07:37 |
| qwerfd | i removed them and rebooted and now its workin | 07:37 |
| Vonor | hi | 08:15 |
| favro | !hi | 08:15 |
| ubottu | Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 08:15 |
| Vonor | is it possible to install xubuntu from another linux, or am i required to use one of the *ubuntu live cds? | 08:16 |
| Myrtti | depends what the another linux is | 08:16 |
| Vonor | gentoo | 08:16 |
| favro | you can add xubuntu-desktop to the one you have nowif it is ubuntu | 08:17 |
| favro | in vbox then :) | 08:17 |
| favro | or dual boot | 08:17 |
| Vonor | i want to install it on another hd | 08:17 |
| Myrtti | then you need an installation media | 08:17 |
| Vonor | the question is, if i need the cd or if i can install it from my running gentoo | 08:18 |
| Myrtti | live cd, alternate cd, usb, dvd, whatever rocks your boat | 08:18 |
| squirrelpimp | hi... | 09:59 |
| squirrelpimp | i just really screwed things up | 09:59 |
| squirrelpimp | i ran "rm -rf /usr/lib" (common typo) and hit ctrl+c after about one second | 09:59 |
| squirrelpimp | it's just libs, so i thought i could reinstall them in theory | 10:00 |
| Catoptromancy | heh | 10:00 |
| squirrelpimp | could anyone help me here? it's xubuntu hardy | 10:00 |
| Catoptromancy | desktop or alternate disk? | 10:00 |
| squirrelpimp | i think i'll have to check for all libs, that should be there | 10:00 |
| squirrelpimp | i think i installed from alternate | 10:00 |
| squirrelpimp | but does that make a difference | 10:00 |
| Catoptromancy | is it possible to reinstall without formatting? | 10:00 |
| squirrelpimp | i don't know | 10:01 |
| Catoptromancy | Im not totally sure about ubuntu | 10:01 |
| Catoptromancy | ive done it on slackware | 10:01 |
| squirrelpimp | as long as all applications are running i could try anything else first | 10:01 |
| Catoptromancy | itll leave everything alone, execpt copy over all the original files | 10:01 |
| squirrelpimp | reinstalling will make me lose lots of settings though | 10:01 |
| squirrelpimp | i'd only need all the lib files from all packages installed | 10:01 |
| Catoptromancy | with slackware I didnt lose anything | 10:01 |
| Catoptromancy | you dont format | 10:01 |
| Catoptromancy | only copy over, | 10:01 |
| Catoptromancy | but someone probably has a better answer | 10:02 |
| squirrelpimp | i think ubuntu will be different here | 10:02 |
| Catoptromancy | its a bit idle at the moment | 10:02 |
| squirrelpimp | i need a list of all my packages installed and then i need every file in /usr/lib | 10:02 |
| Catoptromancy | well open all your programs | 10:03 |
| Catoptromancy | whatever doesnt work, redownload | 10:03 |
| squirrelpimp | and see what fails | 10:03 |
| squirrelpimp | :) | 10:03 |
| Catoptromancy | thats best bet | 10:03 |
| squirrelpimp | i thought of reinstalling all that has "lib*" as a name | 10:03 |
| squirrelpimp | oh i hate fast computers | 10:04 |
| squirrelpimp | couple of years ago it wouldn't have deleted that many files in just one sec | 10:04 |
| favro | "squirrelpimp> i need a list of all my packages" - this might help | 10:05 |
| favro | !clone | 10:05 |
| ubottu | To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate | 10:05 |
| squirrelpimp | favro: thanks | 10:05 |
| favro | I hope it works well :) | 10:05 |
| squirrelpimp | can aptitude work with selections as well? | 10:06 |
| squirrelpimp | i usually prefer it over apt-get | 10:06 |
| squirrelpimp | the problem is, my packages are already installed | 10:06 |
| squirrelpimp | and i'd like to only reinstall those having files in /usr/lib | 10:06 |
| squirrelpimp | i could try to bring up vmware an install a copy of my system there using favros trick | 10:07 |
| favro | apt-get will report that an installed app is already installed - and I think that might hang you up | 10:07 |
| favro | apt-get doesn't know what was removed | 10:07 |
| squirrelpimp | yes | 10:07 |
| squirrelpimp | aptitude has a reinstall command | 10:08 |
| favro | apt-get --reinstall install | 10:08 |
| squirrelpimp | ok | 10:08 |
| favro | sorry I don't use aptitude | 10:08 |
| squirrelpimp | still this will reinstall even apps without files in /usr/lib | 10:08 |
| squirrelpimp | if this is a problem? | 10:08 |
| AkshunBoi | Recently my xubuntu hardy is hanging, indefinitely, at "Starting Up..." during boot. I have tried using the 'recovery mode,' it hangs after 10s at a line about ACPI PCI Interrupt 11. System previously worked fine. | 10:09 |
| favro | you won't have the same app twice | 10:09 |
| squirrelpimp | apt-get --reinstall dselect-upgrade | 10:09 |
| favro | squirrelpimp: ^^ | 10:09 |
| squirrelpimp | yes, of course | 10:10 |
| squirrelpimp | but e.g. reinstalling libexo screwed setting quite a bit | 10:10 |
| squirrelpimp | i need a script to run "dpkg -L" for each package installed and see if it has files in /usr/lib | 10:10 |
| favro | AkshunBoi: do you have an old kernel to boot into? | 10:10 |
| AkshunBoi | favro: I do, they are all exhibiting the same behavior | 10:11 |
| favro | AkshunBoi: does it boot into recovery? - or nothing at all? | 10:12 |
| AkshunBoi | favro: the recovery mode option hangs 10 seconds into boot | 10:12 |
| favro | AkshunBoi: if it is a new thing it might be h/ware | 10:13 |
| favro | unless there was a bios change maybe | 10:13 |
| AkshunBoi | favro: the only change is that I installed a bunch of updates from the automatic updater, this is the first reboot since installing those | 10:13 |
| AkshunBoi | none of those 'required' a reboot though | 10:14 |
| AkshunBoi | and the system worked fine for at least a day after installing those (without rebooting) | 10:14 |
| AkshunBoi | I'd start pulling hardware to see if it would boot bare-bones, but it's a laptop :/ only thing I can pull is the pcmcia wifi card, and I already tried without it :/ | 10:14 |
| favro | AkshunBoi: does the live cd boot? | 10:15 |
| AkshunBoi | haven't tried, guess I should go find the live cd, and the cd drive while I'm at it. I always forget about that thing, too used to windows I suppose :P | 10:16 |
| favro | hehe | 10:18 |
| squirrelpimp | ok... of the 2075 packages installed, 1162 have files in /usr/lib | 10:18 |
| squirrelpimp | hell... | 10:18 |
| favro | omg... hehe | 10:19 |
| squirrelpimp | now... i could as well check if all files are present | 10:19 |
| squirrelpimp | that would be faster as i only lost 1sec of rm -rf | 10:19 |
| favro | sounds good | 10:19 |
| AkshunBoi | can't believe I actually found the cd drive so easily, too bad the system doesn't want to boot from it right now, grrr :/ | 10:24 |
| AkshunBoi | whoah, I'll be damned it just booted to the splash screen | 10:25 |
| squirrelpimp | AkshunBoi: isn't that quite normal? | 10:25 |
| AkshunBoi | I've been messing with this thing for close to 3 hrs now, hangs EVERY TIME, I do what amounts to nothing and all of a sudden it boots | 10:25 |
| favro | AkshunBoi: it might just be mem issues | 10:26 |
| AkshunBoi | normal, yeah, just not normal that it magically fixed itself! I'd really prefer if I had done something to make it suddenly work :P | 10:26 |
| AkshunBoi | favro: good call, I'll let it memtest overnight and see if it turns anything up in the morning, thanks for your help :P | 10:26 |
| favro | AkshunBoi: a quick check if the cd boots is open a terminal and type free | 10:27 |
| squirrelpimp | favro: my scan actually works... however it's slow as ... | 10:28 |
| AkshunBoi | 'free' seems to show me memory/swap information? | 10:28 |
| favro | it should - and if it shows all that should be there that's a good start | 10:30 |
| AkshunBoi | oooh, nevermind, when you said "if the cd boots" I thought you meant to "check if the cd boots" not to check [memory issues] if the cd boots | 10:31 |
| AkshunBoi | it seems to have booted perfectly fine this time, though, so, I'll cross my fingers that it was just a big 3 hour fluke that kept me from booting :P | 10:31 |
| favro | AkshunBoi: I thought you couldn't get into the system so from the cd would be the only option | 10:32 |
| AkshunBoi | yeah, I understand now, I just got a bit confused there :P | 10:32 |
| favro | squirrelpimp: "my scan" is a script? | 10:32 |
| squirrelpimp | yes | 10:33 |
| favro | well done :) | 10:33 |
| squirrelpimp | a shell one-liner | 10:33 |
| squirrelpimp | for package in $(cat packages); do for file in $(dpkg -L $package); do echo $file | grep -q "^/usr/lib/"; if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then if [ ! -e $file ]; then echo "$package: $file"; fi; fi; done; done | tee lib-packages-missing | 10:33 |
| squirrelpimp | tada | 10:33 |
| squirrelpimp | :) | 10:33 |
| AkshunBoi | favro: thanks again | 10:34 |
| favro | AkshunBoi: np :) | 10:34 |
| squirrelpimp | but it takes long... | 10:35 |
| squirrelpimp | so i added some progress-display now | 10:35 |
| squirrelpimp | :) | 10:35 |
| favro | hehe :) | 10:35 |
| favro | I think that's cool | 10:35 |
| favro | my little fuzzy clock script is giving me base errors causing grammar errors :) | 10:39 |
| favro | ./progs/fuzzy1: line 6: ((: 09: value too great for base (error token is "09") | 10:41 |
| squirrelpimp | can you paste the script? | 10:42 |
| squirrelpimp | i don't have a browser atm | 10:42 |
| squirrelpimp | :) | 10:42 |
| squirrelpimp | so here or /query | 10:42 |
| favro | /j #favro ? | 10:42 |
| squirrelpimp | favro: look at the advanced bash scripting guide | 11:09 |
| squirrelpimp | it is the most usefull documentation for bash programming | 11:09 |
| favro | yep am working slowly through that - it's hard reading | 11:11 |
| favro | seems to work with your recommendations - I'll change the clock to look at 9 past again :) thnx | 11:13 |
| favro | squirrelpimp: ^^ | 11:13 |
| squirrelpimp | :) | 11:13 |
| favro | ok I buggered my time and sudo - I set the time back five min with sudo date -s 08:08 - now trying to set it back or anything sudo I get | 11:31 |
| favro | sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 17 20:16:25 2008 | 11:31 |
| favro | apart from waiting 12 hrs what's my choices? | 11:31 |
| favro | I set the time back 12hrs 5 min with sudo date -s 08:08 | 11:32 |
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| nubuntu | i thought all this time with xubuntu on this box that i had a faulty screen, as there is about an inch and a half black margin unused at the right of the screen, but last nite i was playing with a couple other live disks, suse, and knoppix, and i noticed that they utilized all the screenspace. somewhere i found a utility that i guess is sposed to set the margins, but they were all four set... | 13:37 |
| nubuntu | ...to '0' already, and i was too tired to go into it any further ... anybody know how i can fix this? | 13:37 |
| squirrelpimp | nubuntu: does it work with ubuntu-livecd? | 13:41 |
| squirrelpimp | without the x? | 13:41 |
| nubuntu | ya, i just found it again, 'workspaces and margins' but they're all set to '0' | 13:42 |
| nubuntu | squirrelpimp: this box too old for ubuntu. | 13:42 |
| squirrelpimp | so the live-cd does not even start to check the borders? | 13:43 |
| squirrelpimp | what version of xubuntu? | 13:43 |
| pleia2 | nubuntu: have you played with your monitor settings? monitors sync up to different screens differently, I tend to have to change mine between OSes (it's even different between the gui and command line) | 13:44 |
| favro | nubuntu: any buttons on the front of the monitor? | 13:44 |
| nubuntu | hmmmmmm, pretty sure i upgraded to hardy | 13:44 |
| pleia2 | yeah, buttons on the monitor | 13:44 |
| nubuntu | ya, some buttons on the front, never touched them or lookd at them b4 | 13:45 |
| squirrelpimp | so looking and touching them might help... especially if one was labelled "auto" | 13:46 |
| squirrelpimp | :) | 13:46 |
| nubuntu | lemme get a flashlight, there *do* seem to be some horiz controls there | 13:46 |
| favro | or menu | 13:46 |
| nubuntu | thanks guys | 13:46 |
| favro | :) | 13:46 |
| squirrelpimp | i'd really like to see this room where you need a flashlight to see the monitor-controls | 13:47 |
| nubuntu | now its worse than it was before. i found the horiz control,, but as i pushed it right it also expanded left, where it was already too far left to begin with. so to have a completely visible workspace, i ended up shrinking it back smaller than it was! :P | 13:55 |
| squirrelpimp | well done | 13:56 |
| squirrelpimp | there should not only be horiz zoom but also horiz position | 13:56 |
| squirrelpimp | try that | 13:56 |
| favro | or press the other button | 13:58 |
| nubuntu | omg, can anybody say 'extenze'? haha, just got two more inches on the ferrari :) | 14:02 |
| favro | hehe well done :) | 14:03 |
| nubuntu | thanks again squirrel and favro | 14:03 |
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| favro | !tab | nubuntu | 14:04 |
| ubottu | nubuntu: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. | 14:04 |
| favro | I type nub and hit the tab button and get nubuntu | 14:05 |
| nubuntu | how does that work on filenames and programs in the command line? | 14:17 |
| nubuntu | favro: , and squirrelpimp ? | 14:18 |
| nubuntu | :) | 14:18 |
| nubuntu | how could it know how to complete a filename? there are so many in the descentding order? | 14:19 |
| favro | the same but if there is more than one you tab twice and see the options | 14:19 |
| nubuntu | *descending | 14:19 |
| favro | keep hitting tab | 14:19 |
| favro | sometimes it's easier to type it :) | 14:20 |
| nubuntu | so if i entered /var then hit tab it would keep going down the line? | 14:20 |
| favro | should | 14:21 |
| nubuntu | ya, i think so , | 14:21 |
| favro | nope | 14:21 |
| favro | just replays the options | 14:22 |
| nubuntu | ya, just tried it, don't like it :P | 14:23 |
| nubuntu | but good to know | 14:23 |
| favro | I use it to find long named tar files and such | 14:23 |
| favro | then highlight them with the mouse and middle click | 14:24 |
| favro | ^^ works when there's alot of files rtoo | 14:25 |
| favro | s/rtoo/too/ | 14:25 |
| willluongo | Hello, I thought I remembered being able to click and drag items from the menu onto the top panel in a previous version of Xubuntu, but that doesn't seem to work anymore. How can I add shortcuts to regular applications to the panel? | 15:02 |
| willluongo | Oh I think I have figured it out, thanks anyway | 15:04 |
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| ron_o | what's the best setting for cups so it uses the least amount of ink? | 16:29 |
| ron_o | grayscale? | 16:29 |
| ron_o | fastdraft gray scale? | 16:30 |
| ron_o | mandje, I have a hard time of this. Like you need any more than fastdraft ever. | 16:30 |
| ron_o | I mean man.. | 16:30 |
| ron_o | don't know why it goes to "mandje" what the hell. | 16:31 |
| ron_o | there's this huge conspiracy, I know, to make sure more ink is fricking used. ;-> | 16:32 |
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| armornick | hey guys, how do I put a menu to access my folders on the top bar (like gnome)? | 18:03 |
| zoredache_ | armornick: add the 'Places' item to the panel? | 18:05 |
| armornick | yes | 18:05 |
| Odd-rationale | armornick: perhaps one way would be to add another xfce4 menu and edit the menu to launch spcified folders... | 18:06 |
| Odd-rationale | there really isn't a "Places" plugin for xfce... | 18:06 |
| armornick | is there a documentation project or manual for xfce? | 18:06 |
| zoredache_ | eh? I think I have one on my system... | 18:07 |
| zoredache_ | !info xfce4-places-plugin | 18:07 |
| ubottu | xfce4-places-plugin (source: xfce4-places-plugin): quick access to folders, documents and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-1ubuntu1.1 (hardy), package size 29 kB, installed size 552 kB | 18:07 |
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| Odd-rationale | hmm cool | 18:08 |
| Odd-rationale | zoredache: hey. it is even beter than the gnome places menu!!! :P | 18:10 |
| Myrtti | meh | 18:50 |
| Myrtti | I shut the wrong window >___> | 18:51 |
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| zz2Z3zz | hey guys, need some help! | 20:37 |
| Odd-rationale | !ask | zz2Z3zz | 20:38 |
| ubottu | zz2Z3zz: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) | 20:38 |
| Odd-rationale | zz2Z3zz: most be a long question you're typing there... :P | 20:39 |
| zz2Z3zz | ^^ sry... the question is how can I access Files on other PCs (Windows) with xubuntu? (Like local network in XP) | 20:40 |
| zz2Z3zz | no just bad english (; | 20:40 |
| zoredache | if you mean across the network then you will need to install and use something like fusesmb, or manually mount what you want | 20:41 |
| zoredache | fuse smb - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb | 20:41 |
| zz2Z3zz | thanks alot (; sry for this nooby question, cya | 20:42 |
| zoredache | no worries... it is a faq | 20:42 |
| Myrtti | I bet he comes back | 20:43 |
| Odd-rationale | lol | 20:43 |
| zoredache | we really need to make it easier to access smb shares... | 20:44 |
| Odd-rationale | talk to the thunar dev... | 20:45 |
| * Myrtti giggles | 20:45 | |
| zz2Z3zz | me again... one more question: ALWAYS when I try to do anything in Terminal where I need Sudo it asks me for the sudo password, but i just cant type it | 20:46 |
| Myrtti | it's your own password? | 20:46 |
| Myrtti | how do you login without your password? do you have autologin enabled? | 20:47 |
| zz2Z3zz | i know, i mean i cant type... i press a button and nothings appears on screen, no, autologin is disabled | 20:47 |
| zoredache | Odd-rationale: someone started working on something to make it easier to setup. I don't think it was working though... | 20:48 |
| Odd-rationale | zoredache: yeah i remember... someone was working on it... | 20:49 |
| Myrtti | zz2Z3zz: the password isn't echoed on the terminal | 20:49 |
| Myrtti | zz2Z3zz: you can't see even stars when you type it - it's supposed to be like that. | 20:49 |
| zz2Z3zz | o0 ur right sry this is confusing... but thx (; | 20:52 |
| squirrelpimp | ok... i seem to have fixed all the mess i wrote about today | 21:11 |
| squirrelpimp | :) | 21:11 |
| Odd-rationale | good for you :D | 21:11 |
| squirrelpimp | :) | 21:11 |
| squirrelpimp | linux ftw | 21:11 |
| squirrelpimp | one second of rm -rf in windows would probably be harder to fix | 21:11 |
| zoredache | the question is, why would you want to fix windows? :p | 21:17 |
| indi | ics problem here... xubuntu on the net with ppp0 connection, Windows vista Lan connected to xubuntu and can't go to net... any suggestion??? | 22:33 |
| indi | ,hhh | 22:35 |
| squirrelpimp | indi: firewall, masquerading, iptables, shorewall, ip_forward | 22:36 |
| squirrelpimp | google each, read first 10 hits, then you should know | 22:36 |
| squirrelpimp | :) | 22:36 |
| indi | got a solution for my question? or it's enough talk about firewalls, masquerading exc...??? | 22:46 |
| indi | if i'm here its bcoz i've alredy try a google search and the official ubuntu getting start guide to ics | 22:47 |
| indi | :) | 22:47 |
| indi | at the end of this working day i've never find a solution to this damn issue | 22:48 |
| zoredache | indi: generally most people in this channel are more familair with 'desktop usage' of linux. Setting up connection sharing, routing and firwalling tends to be a server issue. You might get more help in #ubuntu-server. The question is fairly advanced. To make it run well you need to understand how many things work like routing, firewalling, dns.... | 23:13 |
| zoredache | Also, since you said you read the howto, and google, perhaps you should tell us if you had problems with a particular step, or something... | 23:14 |
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