| sbalneav | Evening all | 03:35 |
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| Nubae | hey there | 10:16 |
| Nubae | is Alpha 6 out yet? | 10:16 |
| killsalad | hi all | 10:28 |
| === Nubae1 is now known as Nubae | ||
| === lee_ is now known as ToothDeKay | ||
| ToothDeKay | Greetings.....Could someone point right direction? | 13:47 |
| ToothDeKay | I have setup the latest 8.04.1 Edubuntu and am teaching my 3 year old to use the computer. | 13:47 |
| ToothDeKay | We have started with GCompris -> Discover the computer -> Click the mouse. | 13:47 |
| ToothDeKay | The only problem is the photos tend to recycle too quick. | 13:47 |
| ToothDeKay | Is there any way to add new photos or change the photos to ones that are relevant to my son? | 13:47 |
| ToothDeKay | I guess I just need the location that they are stored on the computer but I dont know where that is. | 13:47 |
| calimer | if you can figure out the name of the photo you could search your comp with the find | 13:48 |
| calimer | I have never used that program but in home is there a .gcompris? | 13:48 |
| JordanC|OnGnome | Hiya :) | 13:51 |
| calimer | also look at this http://gcompris.net/wiki/index.php/GCompris_internals | 13:52 |
| calimer | "image selector: Provides a way for image drawing activities to let the children select an image. Images can come from a predefined dataset or by dynamically scanning a specified directory. " | 13:52 |
| ToothDeKay | Just had a look and there is no .gcompris, but there is a My GCompris folder. | 13:52 |
| ToothDeKay | Thanks for the link I'll go have a read. | 13:52 |
| calimer | ah :D | 13:55 |
| calimer | maybe you have to set it up to see hidden folders? not sure | 13:55 |
| calimer | that image selector sounds like the way to go | 13:55 |
| calimer | so that you can make your own folder and put them in and then select it | 13:55 |
| calimer | I'm not on nix right now or I'd grab it and check it out myself | 13:56 |
| ToothDeKay | To the guy that was helping me before. (sorry cant remember name..battery died) | 14:14 |
| ToothDeKay | I found the location of the photos....they are at | 14:14 |
| ToothDeKay | /usr/share/gcompris/boards/opt/animals/ thanks for helping..... | 14:14 |
| sbalneav | Morning all | 16:10 |
| LaserJock | moin | 16:24 |
| sbalneav | Ok, maybe you can answer something for me. | 16:39 |
| sbalneav | I see lots of people on the ubuntu channels say "moin" | 16:39 |
| sbalneav | now, is that an ubuntu contraction of "Morning", or a general internet slang, or "morning" in another language? | 16:40 |
| sbalneav | I.e. is it an ubuntu culture thing? or a general internet thing? | 16:40 |
| Nubae | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin | 16:41 |
| sbalneav | Ah, so it IS another language | 16:43 |
| Nubae | yeah German thing :-) | 16:44 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: definately not Ubuntu-specific | 16:44 |
| sbalneav | Easier to type than "Guten tag" one supposes | 16:44 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: I'm just becoming Europeanized ;-) | 16:44 |
| sbalneav | Your Eropeanization continues apace. | 16:45 |
| Nubae | hmmm my ldm is acting funny... alt+cntrl+backspace takes almost a minute to go through | 16:45 |
| Nubae | as does my verifying password... strange | 16:46 |
| sbalneav | When your Europeanization is complete, you will be Europeaniriffic. | 16:46 |
| sbalneav | Which means that You will have much Eropeanossitude. | 16:46 |
| sbalneav | Nubae: Usually a DNS problem on the server. | 16:47 |
| sbalneav | What I usually like to do is add all the terminals to the server's /etc/hosts file, so it can find them quick | 16:47 |
| Nubae | hmm... no bind installed | 16:47 |
| sbalneav | Usually I do something like: | 16:47 |
| sbalneav | for ((I=20;I<251;I++)); do echo "192.168.0.$I ws$I" >> /etc/hosts done | 16:48 |
| sbalneav | from the command prompt | 16:48 |
| sbalneav | SSH usually tries to do a reverse lookup when you connect to it. You can either tell it not to do that, or just add the hostnames to the /etc/hosts file. | 16:49 |
| sbalneav | I find the latter's usually easier. | 16:49 |
| Nubae | lol... I put done at the end of hosts instead of new line and now my /etc/hosts has all the workstation names + done on the end | 16:51 |
| sbalneav | heh | 16:52 |
| Nubae | sbalneav: do I have to define the workstations in dhcpd.conf then too? | 16:53 |
| sbalneav | No | 16:53 |
| sbalneav | The slowdown occurs purely from ssh deciding it wants to do a reverse lookup | 16:53 |
| Nubae | ok, never noticed it before... its a new setup though | 16:53 |
| sbalneav | Does it work better now? | 16:54 |
| Nubae | restarting thin client | 16:54 |
| Nubae | nah still gets stuck on verifying password please wait | 16:57 |
| Nubae | maybe my firewall is interfering | 16:57 |
| sbalneav | Does it get in eventually, or is it NEVER getting in? | 16:58 |
| Nubae | actually, now that u mention it, after a long time it goes back to ldm screen | 16:59 |
| sbalneav | ah, I misunderstood | 16:59 |
| sbalneav | that's a different problem then | 16:59 |
| sbalneav | Does this box have 2 network interfaces, or just one? | 17:00 |
| Nubae | 2 | 17:00 |
| Nubae | maybe needs ltsp-update-sshkeys? | 17:02 |
| sbalneav | Yup, and a ltsp-update-image after that | 17:03 |
| Nubae | damn still gets stuck | 17:06 |
| Nubae | sbalneav: what else can I look at? | 17:10 |
| Nubae | this a fresh ubuntu ltsp install, never seen this happen, usually just works | 17:10 |
| sbalneav | Do an ifconfig -a, paste the results to a pastebot | 17:10 |
| Nubae | in thin client? | 17:11 |
| sbalneav | No, on the server | 17:11 |
| sbalneav | lets see what's up. | 17:11 |
| sbalneav | Seems ok from what you pasted | 17:13 |
| sbalneav | Lets do this: | 17:14 |
| sbalneav | set the root password int he chroot | 17:14 |
| sbalneav | chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 | 17:14 |
| sbalneav | passwd | 17:14 |
| sbalneav | exit | 17:14 |
| sbalneav | ltsp-update-image | 17:14 |
| sbalneav | reboot | 17:14 |
| sbalneav | lemme know when you get there | 17:14 |
| Nubae | sbalneav: ok done | 17:17 |
| Nubae | I switched on get-lease-hostnames, and that fixed the host showing on the bottom right, but still no login :-) ok I've logged in as root from a shell | 17:19 |
| sbalneav | cool. | 17:20 |
| sbalneav | ok, so lets do an ssh userid@192.168.0.254 on ctl-alt-f1 on the thin client | 17:20 |
| Nubae | wait... says account expired | 17:20 |
| sbalneav | when you ssh? | 17:21 |
| sbalneav | or logging in as root? | 17:21 |
| Nubae | no, when logging in | 17:21 |
| sbalneav | ok, then the password's not set in the chroot | 17:21 |
| Nubae | let me check from the server side | 17:22 |
| Nubae | yeah I did set it, but keep getting same message | 17:23 |
| Nubae | Your account has expired; please contact your system administrator | 17:23 |
| Nubae | su: User account has expired | 17:23 |
| Nubae | gonna try a different chroot | 17:28 |
| Nubae | doh... had changed the port in ssh to 2222 (and forgot about it) | 17:30 |
| Nubae | damn this makes no sense... now it logs in but stays on a black screen with mouse cursor | 17:46 |
| monteslu | irsomething happen with jetpipe on 8.04 ? | 17:59 |
| monteslu | I vaguely remember having to fix something a two months ago, but can't find anything in the email archives | 18:00 |
| monteslu | s/irsomething/did something | 18:00 |
| Nubae | was missing in the release I believe... but should be there now | 18:06 |
| monteslu | still gone | 18:07 |
| monteslu | don't remember how to get it, or where to put it | 18:07 |
| monteslu | "find / -name jetpipe" from a thin client shell doesn't have any results | 18:08 |
| Nubae | let me check on mine | 18:09 |
| monteslu | thanks | 18:09 |
| Nubae | /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/jetpipe | 18:10 |
| monteslu | awesome | 18:10 |
| Nubae | sbalneav: I needed to do passwd -u root (seems it was locked) | 18:10 |
| Nubae | so now I can ssh into the server from the thin client without problems | 18:22 |
| Nubae | but still logging into thin client causes black screen with mouse | 18:24 |
| GJ | I downloaded ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso. I burned the image to a CD. Should I do a md5 checksum on the CD? If so, how do I do it? | 19:47 |
| LaserJock | GJ: generally you do a md5 check on the .iso | 19:55 |
| LaserJock | GJ: you can then check the burn in the boot menu | 19:55 |
| LaserJock | but unless you're going to actually install Ubuntu with it it's probably not necessary | 19:56 |
| GJ | The file was downloaded on a WinXP machine and has to be used on the linux server. So I figured I could use a command in linux to check the iso image on the CD | 19:57 |
| GJ | Ubuntu is already installed on the server. I'm trying to upgrade Edubuntu. So I downloaded the above mentioned iso file and am presently downloading the edubuntu-8.04.1-addon-i386.iso because according to the Edubuntu web page that's what I'm supposed to do. | 19:59 |
| GJ | I thought it would be prudent to do an md5 checksum on the files to make sure the download didn't flip a bit somewhere. | 20:00 |
| LaserJock | GJ: you already upgrade everything though right? | 20:00 |
| LaserJock | you're just trying to upgrade the LTSP client chroot? | 20:00 |
| GJ | This server had Edubuntu installed before I inherited the administration responsibility a few days ago. When I logged on I saw that there were hundreds of updates, so I started the update/upgrade process. | 20:02 |
| GJ | Then I saw that Edubuntu installation requires the two above mentioned files. In a few minutes I will have both of them downloaded and ready to use. But I'm not sure exactly what I should do. | 20:03 |
| LaserJock | well, it's a bit outside the normal process | 20:13 |
| LaserJock | but I think you just want to add the CDs to your package sources list | 20:13 |
| LaserJock | and then you can run the client update and it'll use the files on the CD | 20:14 |
| GJ | Frankly, I was hoping I would be able to put the first CD in the drive and it would autorun. That seemed to be what the Edubuntu web page showed. | 20:16 |
| GJ | I didn't realize this upgrade process was going to "take and act of congress" to accomplish | 20:18 |
| LaserJock | well | 20:18 |
| LaserJock | you're upgrading to a whole new OS | 20:18 |
| LaserJock | if you had good internet it'd be quite easy | 20:19 |
| LaserJock | as you're like 75% of the way there | 20:19 |
| LaserJock | you just need to update your LTSP client chroot, which is like 250MB or so | 20:19 |
| GJ | I assume the two CDs I've created have all the files I need, right? | 20:20 |
| LaserJock | right | 20:20 |
| LaserJock | and a lot more | 20:20 |
| LaserJock | but they should have everything | 20:20 |
| GJ | Now all I have to do is figure out how to get the installation process to start. | 20:21 |
| LaserJock | hmm, sbalneav is probably a lot better for that | 20:21 |
| LaserJock | but I think you need to add the CDs to the sources list | 20:22 |
| LaserJock | I think "apt-cdrom add" does that | 20:23 |
| LaserJock | if you have the CD in the drive | 20:23 |
| GJ | Don't know how to do that. As I explained yesterday to sbalneav, I haven't worked with Linux for about 4 or 5 years. I'm very rust. | 20:23 |
| GJ | I'm very rusty. | 20:23 |
| LaserJock | GJ: yeah, no problem | 20:24 |
| LaserJock | hmm, but I wonder if you need to chroot in first :/ | 20:25 |
| GJ | I've got two CDs now: ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso and edubuntu-8.04.1-addon-i386.iso as the Edubuntu web page said I needed for the thin client installation. | 20:26 |
| LaserJock | are they burned to CDs? | 20:27 |
| GJ | And it was a thin client setup that already existed in this school computer lab | 20:27 |
| GJ | Yes. | 20:27 |
| LaserJock | ok, so put one in and then run apt-cdrom add | 20:27 |
| LaserJock | you might need to do sudo apt-cdrom add | 20:27 |
| GJ | It's scanning for index files | 20:29 |
| GJ | Reports lots of stuff, then says to repeat this process for the rest of the CDs in your set. | 20:31 |
| LaserJock | ok | 20:32 |
| LaserJock | I'm thinking you probably don't need the addon CD | 20:32 |
| GJ | The Edubuntu web page indicated otherwise. It said I need both. | 20:33 |
| LaserJock | to install from scratch | 20:33 |
| LaserJock | or upgrade the whole thing | 20:33 |
| LaserJock | but I believe you've upgrade almost everything | 20:33 |
| LaserJock | you just need the client chroot upgraded | 20:33 |
| LaserJock | you can take a look at http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp-updates.html | 20:33 |
| LaserJock | under the Updating your LTSP chroot section | 20:34 |
| LaserJock | sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/ | 20:34 |
| LaserJock | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 | 20:34 |
| LaserJock | mount -t proc proc /proc | 20:34 |
| LaserJock | apt-get update | 20:34 |
| LaserJock | apt-get upgrade | 20:35 |
| LaserJock | umount /proc | 20:35 |
| LaserJock | exit | 20:35 |
| LaserJock | sudo ltsp-update-kernels | 20:35 |
| LaserJock | sudo ltsp-update-image | 20:35 |
| GJ | I went to that web page and see the stuff you mention. I have to leave the computer lab for a while now, so I won't be able to complete the process until later this afternoon or tomorrow morning. If I need more help, I sure know where to find it. Thanks! | 20:39 |
| LaserJock | hopefully it helps | 20:39 |
| LaserJock | just regular upgrades are a lot easier :-) | 20:39 |
| LaserJock | moving to a whole new version gets tricky on a bad connection | 20:39 |
| * LaserJock goes to teach lab | 20:40 | |
| GJ | That has become very apparent! Thanks! | 20:40 |
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