[03:35] Evening all [10:16] hey there [10:16] is Alpha 6 out yet? [10:28] hi all === Nubae1 is now known as Nubae === lee_ is now known as ToothDeKay [13:47] Greetings.....Could someone point right direction? [13:47] I have setup the latest 8.04.1 Edubuntu and am teaching my 3 year old to use the computer. [13:47] We have started with GCompris -> Discover the computer -> Click the mouse. [13:47] The only problem is the photos tend to recycle too quick. [13:47] Is there any way to add new photos or change the photos to ones that are relevant to my son? [13:47] I guess I just need the location that they are stored on the computer but I dont know where that is. [13:48] if you can figure out the name of the photo you could search your comp with the find [13:48] I have never used that program but in home is there a .gcompris? [13:51] Hiya :) [13:52] also look at this http://gcompris.net/wiki/index.php/GCompris_internals [13:52] "image selector: Provides a way for image drawing activities to let the children select an image. Images can come from a predefined dataset or by dynamically scanning a specified directory. " [13:52] Just had a look and there is no .gcompris, but there is a My GCompris folder. [13:52] Thanks for the link I'll go have a read. [13:55] ah :D [13:55] maybe you have to set it up to see hidden folders? not sure [13:55] that image selector sounds like the way to go [13:55] so that you can make your own folder and put them in and then select it [13:56] I'm not on nix right now or I'd grab it and check it out myself [14:14] To the guy that was helping me before. (sorry cant remember name..battery died) [14:14] I found the location of the photos....they are at [14:14] /usr/share/gcompris/boards/opt/animals/ thanks for helping..... [16:10] Morning all [16:24] moin [16:39] Ok, maybe you can answer something for me. [16:39] I see lots of people on the ubuntu channels say "moin" [16:40] now, is that an ubuntu contraction of "Morning", or a general internet slang, or "morning" in another language? [16:40] I.e. is it an ubuntu culture thing? or a general internet thing? [16:41] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin [16:43] Ah, so it IS another language [16:44] yeah German thing :-) [16:44] sbalneav: definately not Ubuntu-specific [16:44] Easier to type than "Guten tag" one supposes [16:44] sbalneav: I'm just becoming Europeanized ;-) [16:45] Your Eropeanization continues apace. [16:45] hmmm my ldm is acting funny... alt+cntrl+backspace takes almost a minute to go through [16:46] as does my verifying password... strange [16:46] When your Europeanization is complete, you will be Europeaniriffic. [16:46] Which means that You will have much Eropeanossitude. [16:47] Nubae: Usually a DNS problem on the server. [16:47] What I usually like to do is add all the terminals to the server's /etc/hosts file, so it can find them quick [16:47] hmm... no bind installed [16:47] Usually I do something like: [16:48] for ((I=20;I<251;I++)); do echo "192.168.0.$I ws$I" >> /etc/hosts done [16:48] from the command prompt [16:49] SSH usually tries to do a reverse lookup when you connect to it. You can either tell it not to do that, or just add the hostnames to the /etc/hosts file. [16:49] I find the latter's usually easier. [16:51] lol... I put done at the end of hosts instead of new line and now my /etc/hosts has all the workstation names + done on the end [16:52] heh [16:53] sbalneav: do I have to define the workstations in dhcpd.conf then too? [16:53] No [16:53] The slowdown occurs purely from ssh deciding it wants to do a reverse lookup [16:53] ok, never noticed it before... its a new setup though [16:54] Does it work better now? [16:54] restarting thin client [16:57] nah still gets stuck on verifying password please wait [16:57] maybe my firewall is interfering [16:58] Does it get in eventually, or is it NEVER getting in? [16:59] actually, now that u mention it, after a long time it goes back to ldm screen [16:59] ah, I misunderstood [16:59] that's a different problem then [17:00] Does this box have 2 network interfaces, or just one? [17:00] 2 [17:02] maybe needs ltsp-update-sshkeys? [17:03] Yup, and a ltsp-update-image after that [17:06] damn still gets stuck [17:10] sbalneav: what else can I look at? [17:10] this a fresh ubuntu ltsp install, never seen this happen, usually just works [17:10] Do an ifconfig -a, paste the results to a pastebot [17:11] in thin client? [17:11] No, on the server [17:11] lets see what's up. [17:13] Seems ok from what you pasted [17:14] Lets do this: [17:14] set the root password int he chroot [17:14] chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 [17:14] passwd [17:14] exit [17:14] ltsp-update-image [17:14] reboot [17:14] lemme know when you get there [17:17] sbalneav: ok done [17:19] I switched on get-lease-hostnames, and that fixed the host showing on the bottom right, but still no login :-) ok I've logged in as root from a shell [17:20] cool. [17:20] ok, so lets do an ssh userid@192.168.0.254 on ctl-alt-f1 on the thin client [17:20] wait... says account expired [17:21] when you ssh? [17:21] or logging in as root? [17:21] no, when logging in [17:21] ok, then the password's not set in the chroot [17:22] let me check from the server side [17:23] yeah I did set it, but keep getting same message [17:23] Your account has expired; please contact your system administrator [17:23] su: User account has expired [17:28] gonna try a different chroot [17:30] doh... had changed the port in ssh to 2222 (and forgot about it) [17:46] damn this makes no sense... now it logs in but stays on a black screen with mouse cursor [17:59] irsomething happen with jetpipe on 8.04 ? [18:00] I vaguely remember having to fix something a two months ago, but can't find anything in the email archives [18:00] s/irsomething/did something [18:06] was missing in the release I believe... but should be there now [18:07] still gone [18:07] don't remember how to get it, or where to put it [18:08] "find / -name jetpipe" from a thin client shell doesn't have any results [18:09] let me check on mine [18:09] thanks [18:10] /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/jetpipe [18:10] awesome [18:10] sbalneav: I needed to do passwd -u root (seems it was locked) [18:22] so now I can ssh into the server from the thin client without problems [18:24] but still logging into thin client causes black screen with mouse [19:47] I downloaded ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso. I burned the image to a CD. Should I do a md5 checksum on the CD? If so, how do I do it? [19:55] GJ: generally you do a md5 check on the .iso [19:55] GJ: you can then check the burn in the boot menu [19:56] but unless you're going to actually install Ubuntu with it it's probably not necessary [19:57] The file was downloaded on a WinXP machine and has to be used on the linux server. So I figured I could use a command in linux to check the iso image on the CD [19:59] Ubuntu is already installed on the server. I'm trying to upgrade Edubuntu. So I downloaded the above mentioned iso file and am presently downloading the edubuntu-8.04.1-addon-i386.iso because according to the Edubuntu web page that's what I'm supposed to do. [20:00] I thought it would be prudent to do an md5 checksum on the files to make sure the download didn't flip a bit somewhere. [20:00] GJ: you already upgrade everything though right? [20:00] you're just trying to upgrade the LTSP client chroot? [20:02] This server had Edubuntu installed before I inherited the administration responsibility a few days ago. When I logged on I saw that there were hundreds of updates, so I started the update/upgrade process. [20:03] Then I saw that Edubuntu installation requires the two above mentioned files. In a few minutes I will have both of them downloaded and ready to use. But I'm not sure exactly what I should do. [20:13] well, it's a bit outside the normal process [20:13] but I think you just want to add the CDs to your package sources list [20:14] and then you can run the client update and it'll use the files on the CD [20:16] Frankly, I was hoping I would be able to put the first CD in the drive and it would autorun. That seemed to be what the Edubuntu web page showed. [20:18] I didn't realize this upgrade process was going to "take and act of congress" to accomplish [20:18] well [20:18] you're upgrading to a whole new OS [20:19] if you had good internet it'd be quite easy [20:19] as you're like 75% of the way there [20:19] you just need to update your LTSP client chroot, which is like 250MB or so [20:20] I assume the two CDs I've created have all the files I need, right? [20:20] right [20:20] and a lot more [20:20] but they should have everything [20:21] Now all I have to do is figure out how to get the installation process to start. [20:21] hmm, sbalneav is probably a lot better for that [20:22] but I think you need to add the CDs to the sources list [20:23] I think "apt-cdrom add" does that [20:23] if you have the CD in the drive [20:23] Don't know how to do that. As I explained yesterday to sbalneav, I haven't worked with Linux for about 4 or 5 years. I'm very rust. [20:23] I'm very rusty. [20:24] GJ: yeah, no problem [20:25] hmm, but I wonder if you need to chroot in first :/ [20:26] I've got two CDs now: ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso and edubuntu-8.04.1-addon-i386.iso as the Edubuntu web page said I needed for the thin client installation. [20:27] are they burned to CDs? [20:27] And it was a thin client setup that already existed in this school computer lab [20:27] Yes. [20:27] ok, so put one in and then run apt-cdrom add [20:27] you might need to do sudo apt-cdrom add [20:29] It's scanning for index files [20:31] Reports lots of stuff, then says to repeat this process for the rest of the CDs in your set. [20:32] ok [20:32] I'm thinking you probably don't need the addon CD [20:33] The Edubuntu web page indicated otherwise. It said I need both. [20:33] to install from scratch [20:33] or upgrade the whole thing [20:33] but I believe you've upgrade almost everything [20:33] you just need the client chroot upgraded [20:33] you can take a look at http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp-updates.html [20:34] under the Updating your LTSP chroot section [20:34] sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/ [20:34] sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 [20:34] mount -t proc proc /proc [20:34] apt-get update [20:35] apt-get upgrade [20:35] umount /proc [20:35] exit [20:35] sudo ltsp-update-kernels [20:35] sudo ltsp-update-image [20:39] I went to that web page and see the stuff you mention. I have to leave the computer lab for a while now, so I won't be able to complete the process until later this afternoon or tomorrow morning. If I need more help, I sure know where to find it. Thanks! [20:39] hopefully it helps [20:39] just regular upgrades are a lot easier :-) [20:39] moving to a whole new version gets tricky on a bad connection [20:40] * LaserJock goes to teach lab [20:40] That has become very apparent! Thanks!