[03:35] <sbalneav> Evening all
[10:16] <Nubae> hey there
[10:16] <Nubae> is Alpha 6 out yet?
[10:28] <killsalad> hi all
[13:47] <ToothDeKay> Greetings.....Could someone point right direction?
[13:47] <ToothDeKay> I have setup the latest 8.04.1 Edubuntu and am teaching my 3 year old to use the computer.
[13:47] <ToothDeKay> We have started with GCompris -> Discover the computer -> Click the mouse.
[13:47] <ToothDeKay> The only problem is the photos tend to recycle too quick.
[13:47] <ToothDeKay> Is there any way to add new photos or change the photos to ones that are relevant to my son?
[13:47] <ToothDeKay> I guess I just need the location that they are stored on the computer but I dont know where that is.
[13:48] <calimer> if you can figure out the name of the photo you could search your comp with the find
[13:48] <calimer> I have never used that program but in home is there a .gcompris?
[13:51] <JordanC|OnGnome> Hiya :)
[13:52] <calimer> also look at this http://gcompris.net/wiki/index.php/GCompris_internals
[13:52] <calimer> "image selector: Provides a way for image drawing activities to let the children select an image. Images can come from a predefined dataset or by dynamically scanning a specified directory. "
[13:52] <ToothDeKay> Just had a look and there is no .gcompris, but there is a My GCompris folder.
[13:52] <ToothDeKay> Thanks for the link I'll go have a read.
[13:55] <calimer> ah :D
[13:55] <calimer> maybe you have to set it up to see hidden folders? not sure
[13:55] <calimer> that image selector sounds like the way to go
[13:55] <calimer> so that you can make your own folder and put them in and then select it
[13:56] <calimer> I'm not on nix right now or I'd grab it and check it out myself
[14:14] <ToothDeKay> To the guy that was helping me before.  (sorry cant remember name..battery died)
[14:14] <ToothDeKay> I found the location of the photos....they are at
[14:14] <ToothDeKay> /usr/share/gcompris/boards/opt/animals/   thanks for helping.....
[16:10] <sbalneav> Morning all
[16:24] <LaserJock> moin
[16:39] <sbalneav> Ok, maybe you can answer something for me.
[16:39] <sbalneav> I see lots of people on the ubuntu channels say "moin"
[16:40] <sbalneav> now, is that an ubuntu contraction of "Morning", or a general internet slang, or "morning" in another language?
[16:40] <sbalneav> I.e. is it an ubuntu culture thing? or a general internet thing?
[16:41] <Nubae> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin
[16:43] <sbalneav> Ah, so it IS another language
[16:44] <Nubae> yeah German thing :-)
[16:44] <LaserJock> sbalneav: definately not Ubuntu-specific
[16:44] <sbalneav> Easier to type than "Guten tag" one supposes
[16:44] <LaserJock> sbalneav: I'm just becoming Europeanized ;-)
[16:45] <sbalneav> Your Eropeanization continues apace.
[16:45] <Nubae> hmmm my ldm is acting funny... alt+cntrl+backspace takes almost a minute to go through
[16:46] <Nubae> as does my verifying password... strange
[16:46] <sbalneav> When your Europeanization is complete, you will be Europeaniriffic.
[16:46] <sbalneav> Which means that You will have much Eropeanossitude.
[16:47] <sbalneav> Nubae: Usually a DNS problem on the server.
[16:47] <sbalneav> What I usually like to do is add all the terminals to the server's /etc/hosts file, so it can find them quick
[16:47] <Nubae> hmm... no bind installed
[16:47] <sbalneav> Usually I do something like:
[16:48] <sbalneav> for ((I=20;I<251;I++)); do echo "192.168.0.$I ws$I" >> /etc/hosts done
[16:48] <sbalneav> from the command prompt
[16:49] <sbalneav> SSH usually tries to do a reverse lookup when you connect to it.  You can either tell it not to do that, or just add the hostnames to the /etc/hosts file.
[16:49] <sbalneav> I find the latter's usually easier.
[16:51] <Nubae> lol... I put done at the end of hosts instead of new line and now my /etc/hosts has all the workstation names + done on the end
[16:52] <sbalneav> heh
[16:53] <Nubae> sbalneav: do I have to define the workstations in dhcpd.conf then too?
[16:53] <sbalneav> No
[16:53] <sbalneav> The slowdown occurs purely from ssh deciding it wants to do a reverse lookup
[16:53] <Nubae> ok, never noticed it before... its a new setup though
[16:54] <sbalneav> Does it work better now?
[16:54] <Nubae> restarting thin client
[16:57] <Nubae> nah still gets stuck on verifying password please wait
[16:57] <Nubae> maybe my firewall is interfering
[16:58] <sbalneav> Does it get in eventually, or is it NEVER getting in?
[16:59] <Nubae> actually, now that u mention it, after a long time it goes back to ldm screen
[16:59] <sbalneav> ah, I misunderstood
[16:59] <sbalneav> that's a different problem then
[17:00] <sbalneav> Does this box have 2 network interfaces, or just one?
[17:00] <Nubae> 2
[17:02] <Nubae> maybe needs ltsp-update-sshkeys?
[17:03] <sbalneav> Yup, and a ltsp-update-image after that
[17:06] <Nubae> damn still gets stuck
[17:10] <Nubae> sbalneav: what else can I look at?
[17:10] <Nubae> this a fresh ubuntu ltsp install, never seen this happen, usually just works
[17:10] <sbalneav> Do an ifconfig -a, paste the results to a pastebot
[17:11] <Nubae> in thin client?
[17:11] <sbalneav> No, on the server
[17:11] <sbalneav> lets see what's up.
[17:13] <sbalneav> Seems ok from what you pasted
[17:14] <sbalneav> Lets do this:
[17:14] <sbalneav> set the root password int he chroot
[17:14] <sbalneav> chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
[17:14] <sbalneav> passwd
[17:14] <sbalneav> exit
[17:14] <sbalneav> ltsp-update-image
[17:14] <sbalneav> reboot
[17:14] <sbalneav> lemme know when you get there
[17:17] <Nubae> sbalneav: ok done
[17:19] <Nubae> I switched on get-lease-hostnames, and that fixed the host showing on the bottom right, but still no login :-) ok I've logged in as root from a shell
[17:20] <sbalneav> cool.
[17:20] <sbalneav> ok, so lets do an ssh userid@192.168.0.254 on ctl-alt-f1 on the thin client
[17:20] <Nubae> wait... says account expired
[17:21] <sbalneav> when you ssh?
[17:21] <sbalneav> or logging in as root?
[17:21] <Nubae> no, when logging in
[17:21] <sbalneav> ok, then the password's not set in the chroot
[17:22] <Nubae> let me check from the server side
[17:23] <Nubae> yeah I did set it, but keep getting same message
[17:23] <Nubae> Your account has expired; please contact your system administrator
[17:23] <Nubae> su: User account has expired
[17:28] <Nubae> gonna try a different chroot
[17:30] <Nubae> doh... had changed the port in ssh to 2222 (and forgot about it)
[17:46] <Nubae> damn this makes no sense... now it logs in but stays on a black screen with mouse cursor
[17:59] <monteslu> irsomething happen with jetpipe on 8.04 ?
[18:00] <monteslu> I vaguely remember having to fix something a two months ago, but can't find anything in the email archives
[18:00] <monteslu> s/irsomething/did something
[18:06] <Nubae> was missing in the release I believe... but should be there now
[18:07] <monteslu> still gone
[18:07] <monteslu> don't remember how to get it, or where to put it
[18:08] <monteslu> "find / -name jetpipe" from a thin client shell doesn't have any results
[18:09] <Nubae> let me check on mine
[18:09] <monteslu> thanks
[18:10] <Nubae> /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/jetpipe
[18:10] <monteslu> awesome
[18:10] <Nubae> sbalneav: I needed to do passwd -u root (seems it was locked)
[18:22] <Nubae> so now I can ssh into the server from the thin client without problems
[18:24] <Nubae> but still logging into thin client causes black screen with mouse
[19:47] <GJ> I downloaded ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso. I burned the image to a CD. Should I do a md5 checksum on the CD? If so, how do I do it?
[19:55] <LaserJock> GJ: generally you do a md5 check on the .iso
[19:55] <LaserJock> GJ: you can then check the burn in the boot menu
[19:56] <LaserJock> but unless you're going to actually install Ubuntu with it it's probably not necessary
[19:57] <GJ> The file was downloaded on a WinXP machine and has to be used on the linux server. So I figured I could use a command in linux to check the iso image on the CD
[19:59] <GJ> Ubuntu is already installed on the server. I'm trying to upgrade Edubuntu. So I downloaded the above mentioned iso file and am presently downloading the edubuntu-8.04.1-addon-i386.iso because according to the Edubuntu web page that's what I'm supposed to do.
[20:00] <GJ> I thought it would be prudent to do an md5 checksum on the files to make sure the download didn't flip a bit somewhere.
[20:00] <LaserJock> GJ: you already upgrade everything though right?
[20:00] <LaserJock> you're just trying to upgrade the LTSP client chroot?
[20:02] <GJ> This server had Edubuntu installed before I inherited the administration responsibility a few days ago. When I logged on I saw that there were hundreds of updates, so I started the update/upgrade process.
[20:03] <GJ> Then I saw that Edubuntu installation requires the two above mentioned files. In a few minutes I will have both of them downloaded and ready to use. But I'm not sure exactly what I should do.
[20:13] <LaserJock> well, it's a bit outside the normal process
[20:13] <LaserJock> but I think you just want to add the CDs to your package sources list
[20:14] <LaserJock> and then you can run the client update and it'll use the files on the CD
[20:16] <GJ> Frankly, I was hoping I would be able to put the first CD in the drive and it would autorun. That seemed to be what the Edubuntu web page showed.
[20:18] <GJ> I didn't realize this upgrade process was going to "take and act of congress" to accomplish
[20:18] <LaserJock> well
[20:18] <LaserJock> you're upgrading to a whole new OS
[20:19] <LaserJock> if you had good internet it'd be quite easy
[20:19] <LaserJock> as you're like 75% of the way there
[20:19] <LaserJock> you just need to update your LTSP client chroot, which is like 250MB or so
[20:20] <GJ> I assume the two CDs I've created have all the files I need, right?
[20:20] <LaserJock> right
[20:20] <LaserJock> and a lot more
[20:20] <LaserJock> but they should have everything
[20:21] <GJ> Now all I have to do is figure out how to get the installation process to start.
[20:21] <LaserJock> hmm, sbalneav is probably a lot better for that
[20:22] <LaserJock> but I think you need to add the CDs to the sources list
[20:23] <LaserJock> I think "apt-cdrom add" does that
[20:23] <LaserJock> if you have the CD in the drive
[20:23] <GJ> Don't know how to do that. As I explained yesterday to sbalneav, I haven't worked with Linux for about 4 or 5 years. I'm very rust.
[20:23] <GJ> I'm very rusty.
[20:24] <LaserJock> GJ: yeah, no problem
[20:25] <LaserJock> hmm, but I wonder if you need to chroot in first :/
[20:26] <GJ> I've got two CDs now: ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso and edubuntu-8.04.1-addon-i386.iso as the Edubuntu web page said I needed for the thin client installation.
[20:27] <LaserJock> are they burned to CDs?
[20:27] <GJ> And it was a thin client setup that already existed in this school computer lab
[20:27] <GJ> Yes.
[20:27] <LaserJock> ok, so put one in and then run apt-cdrom add
[20:27] <LaserJock> you might need to do sudo apt-cdrom add
[20:29] <GJ> It's scanning for index files
[20:31] <GJ> Reports lots of stuff, then says to repeat this process for the rest of the CDs in your set.
[20:32] <LaserJock> ok
[20:32] <LaserJock> I'm thinking you probably don't need the addon CD
[20:33] <GJ> The Edubuntu web page indicated otherwise. It said I need both.
[20:33] <LaserJock> to install from scratch
[20:33] <LaserJock> or upgrade the whole thing
[20:33] <LaserJock> but I believe you've upgrade almost everything
[20:33] <LaserJock> you just need the client chroot upgraded
[20:33] <LaserJock> you can take a look at http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp-updates.html
[20:34] <LaserJock> under the Updating your LTSP chroot section
[20:34] <LaserJock> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/
[20:34] <LaserJock> sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
[20:34] <LaserJock> mount -t proc proc /proc
[20:34] <LaserJock> apt-get update
[20:35] <LaserJock> apt-get upgrade
[20:35] <LaserJock> umount /proc
[20:35] <LaserJock> exit
[20:35] <LaserJock> sudo ltsp-update-kernels
[20:35] <LaserJock> sudo ltsp-update-image
[20:39] <GJ> I went to that web page and see the stuff you mention. I have to leave the computer lab for a while now, so I won't be able to complete the process until later this afternoon or tomorrow morning. If I need more help, I sure know where to find it. Thanks!
[20:39] <LaserJock> hopefully it helps
[20:39] <LaserJock> just regular upgrades are a lot easier :-)
[20:39] <LaserJock> moving to a whole new version gets tricky on a bad connection
[20:40]  * LaserJock goes to teach lab
[20:40] <GJ> That has become very apparent! Thanks!