[00:11] hi, what might be the cause of alternate 64-bit installer complaining about 2048-byte sectors on my seagate barracuda 7200.10 250GB drive and hanging when I tell it to continue? [00:12] should I check the partition table? [00:50] RAOF: i finnaly run my nvidia driver [00:50] thank you [00:51] * RAOF didn't do anything but say that 173 should work! [00:51] i was thinking to wait more time without 3d when you told me i was wrong [00:52] :o) [01:13] I had this accessibility icon in my systray and I clicked the option to make all text larger out of curiosity [01:13] I disabled it now but things are not back to normal [01:13] The font and size of my title bars and taskbars have changed [01:13] How can I go back to default? [01:17] <_Zeus_> restart X? [01:38] Grr.... dag-blasted Networkmanager won't remember my WPA passphrase. [01:38] It doesn't even ask me for a keyring password, either. [01:45] Oh yeah, random note: I fixed my horridly-stuttery audio. [01:45] Solution: hpet=force. [01:49] Oddly enough, I was still getting the "Delicous high-resolution timers available" message. [02:49] What happened to the Intrepid seeds? [02:54] <_Zeus_> any1 know how to fix this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/271459 [02:54] Launchpad bug 271459 in qt4-x11 "Skype fails loading object file" [Undecided,New] [03:01] <_Zeus_> anyone? [03:01] _Zeus_: Firstly, that doesn't appear to be a bug. [03:02] Secondly, what does ldd skype have to say? [03:05] * Hobbsee waves [03:06] who wants to see the release of Alpha 6 of Intrepid Ibex? [03:06] Howdie Hobbsee. Why, need testers? [03:06] RAOF: yes! [03:07] Well, [03:07] I'm at uni, and hence out. [03:07] RAOF: you won't be at uni all day. [03:07] Heh. [03:07] That's true. [03:07] and you've got 16 hours. [03:08] grr... can't play dvds with mplayer, for some reason. [03:08] No error about dvdcss... it just says something about the renderer not supporting the format. [03:08] * Hobbsee points at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2008-September/001134.html [03:08] DanaG: want to test some cds? [03:09] CDs? [03:09] yes. Alpha 6 candidates. === Hobbsee changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Intrepid Ibex Alpha 6 candidates need testing - please see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2008-September/001134.html for more information | Ibex is still alpha software, and may still break your system - at least you get to keep both pieces! [03:11] I am using Ubuntu Ibex Alpha 5, and since Alpha 3 I have a retarted bug going on. I have a Toshiba Satellite and the volume wheel does'nt work right on the Ubuntu. Yet the volume control is fine. What can be done to correct this? [03:11] Hmm, I'm already on Intrepid on this one, and I don't want to reinstall and lose customizations. [03:12] DanaG: have you used a VM before? [03:12] Can't VM very well on this P4-Celeron 1.6GHz. [03:12] I'll have to wait until I get my main (Core Duo) system back. [03:12] oh, darn. [03:12] kqemu shouldn't do _too_ badly. But it'll be the RAM that kills you, yes. [03:12] Hmm, actually, what would I have to test? [03:13] I have another laptop drive I could swap in. [03:13] DanaG: whichever iso you'd like. You'll find instructions on that page. [03:13] that the install works, in various configurations, firefox starts, that kind of thing [03:13] DanaG: obviously, preference to those ISOs which don't have much testing would be appreciated, but whichever :) [03:14] <_Zeus_> RAOF: i think it is one..... it occured after an update [03:15] _Zeus_: The bug _may_ be that our ia32-libs package doesn't provide enough libraries for you to get Skype running. But the bug, as written, isn't a bug. [03:15] Particularly since I'd _expect_ getlibs'd stuff to break after an update. [03:16] <_Zeus_> i never used getlibs before [03:16] Hmm, I have several systems I could test the Live DVD on. [03:16] <_Zeus_> i only used it to try to fix it [03:16] I am using Ubuntu Ibex Alpha 5, and since Alpha 3 I have a retarted bug going on. I have a Toshiba Satellite and the volume wheel does'nt work right on the Ubuntu. Yet the volume control is fine. What can be done to correct this? [03:16] <_Zeus_> do I have to install to test the live cd? or should i just boot it [03:18] _Zeus_: to test the live cd bit, you don't need to install. However, stuff like the installer is important too [03:18] What happened to the Intrepid seeds? (alpha 5) [03:18] <_Zeus_> a5 is almost dead? [03:18] <_Zeus_> maybe? [03:19] I'm at 89.5% :( [03:19] Saiki: try testing alpha 6 instead? [03:19] A6 came out on me? [03:19] <_Zeus_> Saiki: yeah, try a6 at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [03:19] i guess people just stopped seeding, as it's kinda old now. [03:19] Saiki: no, but you can test it and report bugs. [03:19] <_Zeus_> we're testing ISOs [03:19] Saiki: info is in the /topic [03:20] Saiki: the more people who test it, the faster it comes out. And you also get bits before everyone else. [03:20] <_Zeus_> i guess i'll do it [03:20] * DanaG curses Toshiba for putting the ` key next to spacebar. [03:20] <_Zeus_> I know! i hate it too [03:20] DanaG: yeah, i always found that weird... [03:20] _Zeus_: good man :) [03:20] It's really annoying... I'll try to cd !/downloads [03:21] <_Zeus_> can I switch from x64 to x86 and keep /home [03:21] <_Zeus_> ? [03:21] Ctrl, Fn, Alt, Tilde, Spacebar, Ins, Del, Alt. I mean, seriously... wtf? [03:21] _Zeus_: i'd expect so? [03:21] _Zeus_: Yes(*). [03:22] I also have an HP laptop around here that goes Fn, Context-Menu, Ctrl, Super, Alt, Spacebar, Alt, Super, Ctrl, Fn [03:22] * Assuming the programs are well written, and haven't done something totally and utterly boneheaded, like dumped in-memory structures straight to disc. [03:22] .. so ctrl is below Z, and alt is below C [03:23] They didn't teach about that in my classes I've taken so far at Cal Poly. [03:23] DanaG: have toshiba as well; really annoying when every company fucks up with the keyboard layout [03:23] s/didn't teach/haven't taught/ [03:24] At least modern Toshiba laptops are getting rid of that screwyness -- Microsoft probably slapped them for it, and banned them from using the Vista 'super' key until they fixed it, or something. [03:25] m$ should shove that key right in... [03:25] patenting keys... how silly [03:25] silly to see dell with ubuntu preinstalled having a win key.. [03:25] argh [03:25] Random thing: my next laptop will have UEFI firmware... so it'll give fun stuff to mess around with. [03:26] off to get some zzzZz [03:27] * DanaG wonders if nvidia drivers would work under UFI.... [03:27] ... and fglrx, too. [03:27] At least there'll be the radeonhd driver to use -- I'll be going ATI. [03:28] where do I get the ISo torrents for xubuntu? [03:29] Saiki: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/xubuntu/all [03:29] i doubt there are torrents though. [03:42] Hobbsee: they aren't [03:53] Ugh... random hard-lockup. [03:54] <_Zeus_> :( [03:54] Probably that hpet=force thingy. [03:55] Anything called "force" often implies there are some sort of risks involved. [03:55] That's why I won't use force on ntfs-3g -- it sounds dangerous to me. [04:17] pulseaudio is screwing up my Ubuntu MacBook's sound (Sigmatel STAC9221) and I kill the process and Amarok can actually play a song finally [04:17] But I still can't hear it from my speakers with everything in alsamixer unmuted and turned up [04:17] I obviously have 2.6.27 and ALSA 1.0.17 [04:23] * DanaG wishes nvidia would just fix the damn 96 drivers. [04:29] I'm not expecting that to happen until xorg 1.5 or whatever is officialy released [04:29] Well, it has been, right? [04:31] In, particular, http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-announce/2008-September/000640.html [05:22] Hobbsee: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/intrepid/alpha-5/ in what package is snd-hda-intel.ko located? [05:33] linux-image [05:35] dpkg -S $(locate -n1 snd-hda-intel.ko) [05:36] Alternatively, alsa-driver, if you've module-assistant-ed alsa-source. [05:38] thanks [05:55] my hda-intel doesn't seem to work at all at the moment [05:59] anyone experiencing problems upgrading cups package? [06:00] no [06:36] I just downloaded the dialy build or w/e and when I try to upen "umenu.exe" it shows "invalid CD" [06:36] what's that about? [06:43] I cannot get X to start successfully and I think it has something to do with most of my video modes showing the error (insufficient memory for mode) <8.04> [06:44] 8.04 is hardy, not ibex [06:44] I was told to come here for hardy Flannel> goose: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy Intrepid support, thanks. [06:46] goose: you said you were running 8.10 [06:47] sorry [06:47] i was wrong as i said in #ubuntu [06:48] goose: whats this command say: lsb_release -c [06:51] codename hardy [06:51] goose: yeah, then you should be in #ubuntu, not here [06:53] I just downloaded the dialy build or w/e and when I try to upen "umenu.exe" it shows "invalid CD" What's up withthis? [06:53] sounds like a bug? [06:55] danbh_intrepid: but this is in Vista, not on install or live boot === sourcode is now known as sourcode[0] [06:57] Saiki: it could still be a bug, I dunno [06:57] mattik: Seems I'm now getting the same kill switch nag in Hardy too :/ [06:59] danbh_intrepid: true [07:15] Why is the close button in the top right corner of the screen a logout button and now I have to logout and then shutdown/restart. [07:56] for the past couple months i've found facebook is very slow in firefox. anyone else notice this? [08:04] i've figured out that i can switch to a non-facebook tab to get it to load as normal [08:05] marlun: That was a bug that has been fixed in the latest Intrepid. Assuming you are up-to-date, you can shutdown with System -> Shut Down, or you can add the shutdown item to the panel. [08:06] mattik: seems I got a software kill switch on somehow, so the situation is ok now. Thanks for your help yesterday [08:19] how well supported is the dp43tf mobo (intel p43 chipset).... is it for ubuntu hardy? [08:20] arooni: try the livecd [08:20] or google... [08:21] I just downloaded the dialy build or w/e and when I try to upen "umenu.exe" it shows "invalid CD" What's up withthis? [08:23] Saiki: What's umenu.exe? [08:24] Saiki: oh, probably something to do with installing from within MS Windows? [08:24] it's shows as an autorun for xubuntu on Windows [08:25] supposed to be for wubi I think.. [08:28] Saiki: Are you opening this exe on Ubuntu or Windows? [08:29] windows [08:34] I'm trying to install intrepid on my pc, but that "Invalid CD" error is worrying me [08:34] Hey, is it a known bug that the hardware drivers app doesn't work in ibex? [08:38] Xordan: Not to me. Is it failing for you? You probably want to search launchpad and file a bug if there isn't one already. [08:39] yeah, I click it and nothing really happens. I see it on the bar at the bottom and then that just disappears [08:40] ath5k is broken for me with recent updates. [08:40] Jordan_U: which updates? [08:42] danbh_intrepid: Unfortunately this was one of the few times I didn't look, it was either today or yesterday though. I updated early yesterday and it was still working then [08:42] Xordan: I'd try running it from the command line, see if it spits any errors. Or, failing that, search launchpad, but the errors you glean from the command line will likely help you search. [08:42] bug 259157 Im having trouble with ath9k drivers. IT looks like its slated for the beta milestone [08:42] Launchpad bug 259157 in network-manager "[MASTER 0.7 regression] atheros/madwifi and orinoco drivers not supported" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259157 [08:42] RAOF: What's the app name? [08:42] jockey-gtk, I believe. [08:43] No protocol specified : cannot connect to X server :0.0 [08:43] eh [08:43] ah [08:44] http://rafb.net/p/GC1zeP48.html [08:45] I see a bug open on it [08:45] danbh_intrepid: Does network-manager immediately say "disconnected" and do you see nothing in iwevent when you try to use network-manager or iwconfig? ( note that it's not only a network-manager problem for me at least ) [08:49] gah, no link to the schedule in the topic here. [08:50] danbh_intrepid: Interesting, it seems that one of the packages that I upgraded ( looking at /var/log/dpkg.log ) was network-manager, but again, iwconfig doesn't work either [08:56] Jordan_U: yeah, I don't really get it either. I can't get dhcp to work with the latest kernel, which isnt the network manager either. [08:56] * danbh_intrepid crosses fingers [08:56] danbh_intrepid: My problem is even stranger, going back to the last kernel ( which worked ) I still get the same problem [08:57] 27-2? [08:57] yup [08:57] danbh_intrepid: Can't get dhcp to work wired or wireless? [08:57] damn, that sucks. But that is what is working for me [08:58] Jordan_U: I don't have a wire to test on... [08:59] danbh_intrepid: Probably isn't that dhcp isn't working but that the wireless connection isn't ( which would be what is happening to me ), can you try running iwevent while trying to connect with iwconfig? [09:01] Jordan_U: well, when I have tested in the past, iwconfig lists a connection, and the proper one too. I don't quite follow what you are asking me to do [09:02] by the time I boot, the wireless connection is already going... You want me to disconnect, and then reconnect? [09:02] danbh_intrepid: iwevent should show the card attempting to connect, for me even though iwconfig gives no errors it is obviously not working because I see nothing but "scan request"s in iwevent [09:03] danbh_intrepid: Yes, try connecting again with iwevent running [09:03] Jordan_U: how should I take it down? ifdown? [09:03] danbh_intrepid: Yes [09:04] Jordan_U: mk, Ill be back! [09:08] A6- Invalid CD detected, I'm gonna say BUG!! [09:18] Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/47985/ [09:18] have fun ^^ === marko_ is now known as marko-_- [09:45] danbh_intrepid: Interesting, so you are definitely connecting to the network successfully [10:25] flash seems to be broken again [10:27] Installing from local file /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer10_install_linux_070208.tar.gz [10:27] Flash Plugin installed. [10:27] /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxcb-render-util.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [10:27] nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so [10:28] i'm up-to-date on my packages... and libxcb-render-util.so.0 exists === Hobbsee` is now known as Hobbsee [10:31] if I try to copy libflashplayer.so to the /usr/lib/firefox/plugins directory manually, when I try to start a flash app in my browser it says Express Installation is not supported for this version of flash player [10:32] and if I try to use adobe's installer it says that the x86_64 architecture isn't spport [10:32] everything worked fine until two days ago [10:32] correction, this morning [10:32] so about 28hrs ago [10:32] Hi, I need to provide my password twice when I sudo, me alone? [10:32] yeah [10:32] I don't have to do that [10:33] Raspberry: sudo dpkg-reconfigure libpam-runtime would give you errors? [10:33] no [10:33] Raspberry: how did you try it that fast? ;) [10:33] i'm a fast typer [10:35] Raspberry: flashplugin broke with yesterday's ia32-libs update [10:35] ah ok [10:35] lame [10:35] :p [10:36] any suggested work around? [10:37] gnash doesn't work -- but it's never worked for me since 7.10 [10:38] Raspberry: I guess your bug is fixed 8 mins ago [10:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/271392 [10:38] Ubuntu bug 271392 in ia32-libs "Unable to install flashplugin-nonfree -- libxcb-render-util.so.0 not found" [High,Fix released] [10:39] or is it not related to your problem? [10:40] that's it [10:40] but I'm up to date, so it must not be "out" yet [10:41] downloading it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/amd64/ia32-libs/2.2ubuntu12 [10:41] we'll see if that'll fix it [10:45] no, that won't have built yet [10:45] yeah... that doesn't fix it [10:46] i guess i'll have to boot windows to test my flash stuff today === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander [12:35] rsync-2 causes known problems in my hardy (Ubuntu 8.04) installation, upgrade to rsync-3 needed... [12:35] is it save to just add the intrepid packages to /etc/apt/sources.list and upgrade? [12:36] or can someone advise a better upgrade path? [12:36] alt+f2 update-manager -d [12:37] I've installed the server version, so only terminal; sorry for not mentioning. [12:39] sudo sed -e 's/\shardy/ intrepid/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list [12:39] s000501: just run "do-release-upgrade -d" in this case (server) [12:40] * zniavre take a note of this command line [12:41] hey mvo! [12:41] hey Hobbsee [12:42] mvo: have you tested an iso today? :) [12:42] mvo: perhaps 5-a-day could be used, for this. [12:43] Hobbsee: actually I did :) [12:43] mvo: very good! [12:43] mvo: what'd you test? [12:44] just the live-session, then I noticed a issue in the icon display of gnome-app-install and that distrated me because I went off to fix the bug [12:44] ahh [12:47] mvo: after executing "do-release-upgrade" -> "Checking for a new ubuntu release, current dist not found in meta-release file, No new release found" [12:48] Or could I even better download Ubuntu-8.10-alpha-5 from cdimages.ubuntu.com and keept thís version up-to-date? [12:57] Are there actually any safety riscs when using Ubuntu Intrepid and keeping it up-to-date in comparison to the final release scheduled for Oct-30? [12:59] <`Matir> s000501, by safety, do you mean in terms of security, or do you include stability in that? [13:01] Security is of most concern. [13:01] for what, a server? [13:13] s000501: If you're keeping it up-to-date, I wouldn't consider security a significant issue for a typical user. If you're thinking about installing pre-release Intrepid on a machine where security and stability is an important requirement, stick with the Hardy until release. [13:13] It's indeed for a server. [13:14] I would like to stick with Hardy for security/stability reasons, but rsync-3 is needed to solve known problems in earlier rsync-releases. [13:14] And I couldn't find a backport yet. [13:15] Is there a way to create backport yourself? [13:16] <`Matir> s000501, depends on the dependencies of rsync... lemme look real quick [13:17] Thanks, Matir [13:18] it shouldnt be an issue [13:18] as i recall the depends will be fine for Hardy [13:18] <`Matir> s000501, looks to me that the biggest problem is that hardy ships with libc 2.7, and rsync 3.0 wants libc 2.8... but I'm not sure what change it's using (if it really is) [13:18] it does? [13:19] !info libc6 hardy [13:19] libc6 (source: glibc): GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.7-10ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 4206 kB, installed size 10436 kB [13:19] <`Matir> Depends: libacl1 (>= 2.2.11-1), libc6 (>= 2.8~20080505), libpopt0 (>= 1.14), lsb-base (>= 3.2-14), base-files (>= 4.0.1) [13:21] dont bother trying to backport it than, unless you think you can change libc6 version but for a hardy backport from devs isnt gonna happen more than likely [13:21] it doesnt fit the requirements [13:21] * Hobbsee snorts [13:21] no, libc6 won't get backported. [13:22] than I *should* (?) just install ubuntu-intrepid-alpha6 (or wait till Oct-30 ofcourse?) [13:22] <`Matir> I'm just wondering what change in rsync requires libc6 2.8 vs 2.7... or is it common practice for devs to mark it against the lowest version being used by the release they're building for? [13:23] <`Matir> s000501, what kind of rsync issues are you experiencing? [13:23] I want to mirror a directory structure with a lot (I really mean a lot) of files (including hard links) which doesn't work well with rsync < 3... [13:26] <`Matir> weird... is it because of the hardlinks? I mirror (daily) a directory with 275,000+ files [13:27] what version is in hardy? [13:27] im looking at upstream diff tm [13:27] atm [13:28] !info rsync hardy [13:28] rsync (source: rsync): fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-6ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 256 kB, installed size 512 kB [13:29] There indeed some known issues with hard link support in rsync < 3 [13:30] i see alot of chroot issues worked out in 3.0.0 release [13:30] not hardlinks yet [13:31] <`Matir> gnomefreak, considering that the patch that fixes the hardlink issue might be portable to 2.6? [13:31] - Improved --hard-link so that more corner cases are handled correctly when combined with options such as --link-dest and/or --ignore-existing. [13:32] `Matir: its more work than is worth IMHO however i dont see that they patched anything on it atm and im really trying not to grab source and build it today [13:33] notice the above paste says nothing about bug fixes [13:35] I meant this option: "-H, --hard-links [13:35] This tells rsync to look for hard-linked files in the transfer and link together the corresponding files on the receiving side. Without this option, hard-linked files in the transfer are treated as though they were separate files." [13:35] it doent look as if any of the hardlink fixes enhancements would cause libc6 bump [13:35] -- Not available in 2.6.9 isn't it? [13:35] <`Matir> gnomefreak, yeah... If I was at home and had one of my hardy boxes I'd try to re-build the deb against it, just out of curiousity [13:35] <`Matir> s000501, according to the manpage -H/--hard-links is in 2.6.9. [13:36] s000501: http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.0-NEWS [13:37] s000501: memory useage was biggest fix with hardlink commands/option [13:37] s000501: he is right 2.6.9 does have -H [13:40] I read about memory problems while synchronizing directories with hard links, so maybe memory usage ís the fix which makes rsync 3.0.3 working in my case: mirroring backup data created by backuppc. [13:41] s000501: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/538936 [13:42] hint thats the man page [13:42] well part of it [13:42] <`Matir> s000501, to your original question, I personally would advise against running Intrepid on a production server. Not for security reasons, but for stability reasons. I'm not saying there ARE problems, but the number of changes going in could cause problems, IMO. [13:43] OK, I saw, thanks. [13:43] Matir, thanks for your advise. [13:44] And when I install Intrepid now and do an "apt-get upgrade" after Oct-30, do I then have the same result instead of waiting for the official release? [13:45] <`Matir> An install from iso should match the same as one from continuous upgrades, if that's what you're asking. [13:45] s000501: use update-manager after release [13:45] <`Matir> I never reinstall my systems [13:45] wait your on server? [13:46] if so use dist-upgrade not upgrade [13:47] !final [13:47] If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Intrepid. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. [13:47] Pici: !upgrade might have helped more [13:47] gnomefreak: perhaps [13:47] !upgrade [13:47] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [13:48] So hypothetically, because I should ship my servers to various locations and want to mirror beforehand because of slower internet connection between offices, I could install Intrepid alpha-6 now and type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » frequently to keep it up-to-date? [13:48] s000501: yes but you have been warned [13:48] ;-) [13:49] although server is safer than desktop almost always is after say a3 [13:49] I'm still considering indeed. [13:50] safer doesnt mean safe [13:50] Isnt openoffice 3 beta supposed to be in intrepid to try it out_ [13:50] <`Matir> s000501, to be completely honest, all the problems I have had with Intrepid so far shouldn't be issues on a server... (almost all of mine have been X/DRI related) [13:50] askand: i dont think it was decided on. due to the time of releases are off and unless someone already has it about ready its unlikley [13:51] 2.4.1-8ubuntu1 is oo.o verison [13:52] unless it doesnt have open/office in the name than its not in Intrepid [13:54] that reminds me thanks [13:54] bug 270073 [13:54] Launchpad bug 270073 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 "After installing nvidia-glx-173 it fails to use a sreen resolution higher than 800X600" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270073 [13:54] <`Matir> askand, it's not in, but there's a ppa for it up: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main [13:55] <`Matir> askand, thread about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=889093 [13:57] <`Matir> development was apparently somewhat slowed as Calc (the developer managing it) had to evacuate due to Hurricane Ike. [14:00] if it was approved already than it should make it in archives at some point but since the feature freeze cant just push new packages [14:01] assuming someone has time to take it over [14:03] <`Matir> Calc said he's uploading rc1 packages to the ppa soon, and has (in the past) said that even if it doesn't make it in (looks like it won't) it MIGHT be a candidate for -backports or -updates. (I'm personally not sure of the policy differences between the two.) [14:07] hi, is it usefull to test in a VM ? [14:08] yes [14:10] so ill load it down, and do some testing :-) [14:11] btw is ther something like test-cases? [14:13] yes but cant recall the info on it i thought there was a channel and a website but its been a while since i looked [14:14] be back break than back to work [14:23] hi the link for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex/TechnicalOverview#Download%20Alpha%206 does not work [14:23] is it due out today sometime? [14:28] generic: please see the /topic [14:40] anyone have issues with skype not picking up mic in alpha5 ? [14:40] it worked fine in hardy [14:42] hey guys [14:42] anybody having trouble with nvidia drivers? [14:54] hi, why is netboot not working with netboot=nfs nfsroot=... [14:54] with latest ubuntu snapshot [14:54] it seems that a dhcp request is done by network-manager for the device which is used for the nfsmount [14:55] before a manual entry was written in the interfaces [14:59] the code seems to be still there but it does not boot... [15:13] if somebody wants to try [15:13] http://kanotix.com/files/fix/casper-terminalserver/casper-terminalserver.sh [15:13] mount cd or loop mount iso image to /cdrom and start script [15:13] check device setting of course [15:14] that will prepare tftp, nfs , dns server [15:14] it worked before... [15:15] daily does only work in vbox.. [15:17] Daily CDs do not receive the same rigor of testing that milestone releases do. I would check launchpad to see if this issue has been reported, if not, you may want to log a bug [15:17] well i am downlaoding last alpha now [15:17] but that did not work with vbox [15:18] the kernel patch is only in the daily [15:19] which is required to run without noreplace-paravirt [15:23] alpha 6 which is coming tomorrow will fix the issue with vbox kano [15:23] ikt: well but when it does not boot via pxe it is not usefull for me [15:23] i need pxe boot [15:28] not sure about that [15:28] for me I get kernel panic if I try and use vbox with alpha 5 === x-spec-t is now known as Spec === Ng_ is now known as Ng [15:37] my centrino2 laptop wont load xorg. i hear the ubuntu sound though [15:38] anyone know about status of the intel drivers? would building from git help? [15:38] ive tried hardy to today's build, i get a white screen with grey blobs [15:43] where is the icon "network-manager" in intrepid ? === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna [16:04] <`Matir> scawt: what video chipset? [16:04] intel gm45 [16:05] also known as Intel GMA X4500HD, or Montevina [16:06] <`Matir> gm45? Haven't heard of that one... I have a GM965 working fine with current intrepid... can you get to a console via Ctrl+Alt+F1? [16:07] yes, console works, pretty much everything works except x11 doesnt display anything [16:10] <`Matir> does /var/log/Xorg.0.log show any warnings or errors? [16:25] i'll check [16:32] well, from the log xorg detects my chipset just fine [16:32] it detects my cantiga vga bios [16:33] i see one line that says Bad V_BIOS checksum though [16:33] but it keeps going after that [16:34] it correctly detects my monitor resolution as 1600x900 [16:35] now ive reached the end, no errors that i can find [16:36] i suppose this is a faulty driver then? [16:36] i don't see any showstopper errors in that log [16:43] is there a way that i can switch to the vesa driver so i can install from live intrepid? [16:56] I tried to run "mysql wb binaries for Ubuntu 8.04" on ibex and got " error while loading shared libraries: liblua5.1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [16:56] how much trouble will it be to make this work? [16:56] or should I just install 8.4? [16:58] installing 8.4 will be way easier than building from source - one of the steps is "Additionally, you’ll need Google’s ctemplate library. So ask google for the file ctemplate-0.90.tar.gz..." [16:58] CarlFK: install liblua5.1-0 [16:58] hello! my xserver behaves oddly when changing the brightness of my display… mouse can still be moved and windows can be raised and lowered but i can't move windows around or type text. using ctrl-alt-f2 or any fkey to switch to a console will show the console for 1sec before switching back to tty7 (xserver) – after that everything is back to normal and i can type and move windows [17:01] that odd [17:03] Kano: thanks. that and libzip1 = working [17:04] is this a known issue? or is it only me? [17:06] i was just testing… using the brightness applet it won't hang X [17:06] knitt1: what video? (binary nvidia...) [17:06] nvidia 177 [17:06] CarlFK: little hint: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ can be used to find this [17:06] but the graphics driver shouldn't have to do anything with brightness? [17:08] knitt1: maybe - but I bet it does [17:09] ok, i will try without prop. nvidia drivers sometime this evening [17:10] hmm.. on my desktop, brightens is controlled with buttons on the display, so maybe it is a separate thing [17:10] yeah, that's just monitor brightness then. i have a laptop [17:18] what version of the wireless drivers is intrepid using? [17:23] s0u][ight, the version that comes with the 2.6.27 kernel [17:24] but it is updated all the time and when trying manually i can't compile it :| [17:31] when will openoffice 3.0 make it in the official ubuntu repos.? [17:31] (intrepid) [17:35] it wont [17:35] its past feature freeze unless its exempt [17:35] we have exceptions [17:35] cool [17:36] i mean in general [17:36] ah [17:36] the freeze isn't absolute [17:36] well i dont think open office 3 stable will be out before intrepid final [17:36] i think i saw some stuff about oo.o 3 in a ppa [17:36] tretle: well, ubuntu's shipped RCs before [17:37] ie GIMP [17:37] dont know then [17:37] actually any eta on alpha 6, think the mediabuntu repos messed up my intrepid install so looking to reinstall but if alpha 6 is out soon I might wait [17:39] does anyone have experience with installing the new ati driver (release yesterday) on ubuntu 8.10? [17:40] i even tried it, but got Error! "Build of fglrx.ko failed for: 2.6.27-3-generic (i686)" when installing the generated debs [17:40] using nvidia driver,when I log in my monitor goes black and says out of scan - heres the xorg log http://pastebin.com/m3b793f96 can anyone help? [17:44] mazzen, the ati drivers don't work with the xorg that intrepid uses. you'll have to wait a month [17:46] bsnider: the driver, which was released yesterday has an option for Ubuntu/8.10 (status: unverified) [17:46] and there are debs build [17:48] bsnider: currently i have to work with 800x600 and vesa driver on my notebook (actually 1280x800), as the free ati driver leads to black or freezy screens when gdm starts [17:52] mazzen, use hardy [17:53] bsnider: i have this problem since hardy. that's why i'm running 8.10. i hope that this issue can be fixed [17:55] <_Zeus_> i just upgraded to alpha 6, does anyone know how i can install kernel 2.6.27-2? [17:55] <_Zeus_> -3 is broken for me [17:55] there's an alpha 6? [17:55] <_Zeus_> we're currently testing cd images [17:55] <_Zeus_> yes [17:55] <_Zeus_> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com [17:56] what do you meant he kernel is broken? [17:57] <_Zeus_> it is... constantly beeps, throws errors on startup, doesn't work with glxz [17:57] <_Zeus_> *glx [17:57] <_Zeus_> i was using -2 before i reinstalled [17:57] tretle, pwnguin, thanks [17:57] <_Zeus_> i guess i could go down to linux-image-2.6.26-5-generic, but i'd rather not [17:59] i just read the release schedule and i thought it was supposed to be in the repos. already: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OOo30Schedule [18:08] <_Zeus_> man, linux-image-2.6.27-3 sucks [18:11] today alpha6? :) [18:12] i didn't know there was supposed to be an alpha release today [18:12] hum wrong day? [18:13] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule [18:15] what does "Developer Sprint " mean? the devs all get together and run as fast as they can until they drop from fatigue? [18:16]